KSR - 2024-09-13 - KSR - Hour 1

Episode Date: September 13, 2024

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Starting point is 00:02:51 Right here live at Country Boy in Georgetown, a packed house here for KSR. You can give a shout on the Clark's Pump and Shop phone line. That's 859-280-2287. A Vision Auto Glass text machine is 772-744. This edition is sponsored by the T.J. Smith Law Office, if you call T.J., he'll make them pay. I have to tell you, this is what I love about the Kentucky fan base. When we lost to South Carolina last week, I thought to myself, you know, Country Boys is one of my favorite shows. It might just be us talking to DH when we get there.
Starting point is 00:03:23 I think the fan base is kind of down. they're not all that excited about it. And then, of course, we see this crowd. Look at this crowd here, Ryan, today in Georgetown. Even though Kentucky is down, having the more difficult time they've had in football in the Stoops area, you still get a massive showing here on Friday morning. Man, this is why we do what we do. This is why we go and do these shows, you know?
Starting point is 00:03:49 How many times does he say? I love that. Drew smiled. It's the street. I mean, it's the street. I mean, it's the string. This is why we do what we do. There's the string right there.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Another proof, another exam. We had a great crowd of Bowling Green yesterday in Georgetown. Every time we come here, it's always packed. All three of us laughed at the same time, and we haven't even talked about it before. We know we know we do it for you people. It's exactly right. Thank you all very much for coming out. We were driving up here.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Mario was riding with me because we're going to Green Bay right after the show, and he said, man, there's a lot. lot of people there and I said yes there is this is what this is what Georgetown does every time we come they were here at 8 o'clock this morning drinking beer when I walked in this right here is a crowd that has not given up on Kentucky football yet well you know what even if we even if we're not good this year and hopefully we still will be this group is still going to have fun and that's the most important thing I guess 859 2807 we are here at country boy brewing it's they have a new beer for the tailgate season.
Starting point is 00:04:55 It is country light. A beer for all drinkers. Part of the proceeds go to NIL. You can come at countryboybrewing.com and learn more, and people are drinking them today. I have a fridge full of them. 95 calories, Matt. We were standing over there earlier. I don't know which one of you did it, but Drew and I were talking.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Drew looked away, and when he looked back up, someone had stolen his beer and walked away, right? I don't know which one of you did that, but I have to say that's quite a move to steal. somebody's beer right as we're going. The problem I ran into is when I lost that beer, three people went to get me another one, so now I have three beers. It didn't really work out in my favor. Maybe it did. We'll see how today goes.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Cats play Georgia. The spread is now 24 points for the game yesterday. I saw the Georgia team bus drive by my house, so the Georgia team is here. Game is at 7 o'clock. A lot of people, or 7.30, a lot of people have been asking about watching it, just so you know the game is on ABC, which in Lexington, even if you have direct TV, just like last week, you can still watch it. In Louisville, actually, you can't watch it on ABC if you have direct TV, but in Lexington you still can. I'm not sure why that's the case. But in Lexington,
Starting point is 00:06:08 the game is still on 24-point spread. We learned this week, game day would have been here tomorrow. We learned Kirk Herbstreet would have called the game. Instead, we get Greg McElroy, who I think is a great announcer, but who we had last week. And now we have. Georgia. We've been kind of bummed this week. Is there anything that makes you feel like, Drew, we might be, the game might be closer than we thought. Absolutely. I'm so predictable. When I woke up this morning, I forgot all about last Saturday. I knew this remote was in front of me with these fans. I knew driving over here, this remote would change my opinion. I don't think Kentucky's going to win, but I have talked myself into a good bounce back performance.
Starting point is 00:06:47 You know, everyone's opinion of what that looks like is different. But I do think at the end of the game, We'll be a loss, but we'll say, you know what, we still might have something here moving forward. I think this fan base, and maybe the team as well, but the fan base definitely needs a game on Saturday where we don't feel like we were embarrassed and run off the field. I worry if we were to lose by 40 that this fan base would kind of check out, which would be really unfortunate with nine games left. I also think, though, Ryan, if you're able to be competitive, I think the key, I'm less concerned about what the score, than the competitive, meaning like, we've been competitive with them three of the last four years. We were not competitive with them last year.
Starting point is 00:07:28 That game was never competitive. The other three years, it was competitive. I feel like we need that for this fan base. I'm in that boat right there. I need it to get my spirits back up a little bit. But the thing about, you know, last year we lost South Carolina, came back to next week and beat a good Louisville team at Louisville. So I think that's something about Stoops' teams.
Starting point is 00:07:49 They come back with a little fight when maybe they get punched. in the mouth, they come back a little stronger, a little tougher that next week. That's what I'm hanging my head on. He's always been good about that, but that's why I want to see it, to be honest with you. I want to, that's what, the most disheartening thing to me last week was,
Starting point is 00:08:05 we talked about it. When they went down 17-6, that they quit. I mean, they just quit at 17-6, and they shouldn't have been down 17-6. They should have probably been leading, but they weren't, but then they quit. And then you heard Mark Stoop say that in the
Starting point is 00:08:21 post-game press conference. He said they, we stopped fighting. I got to see Drew them fight on Saturday in order to feel like something can happen with the rest of the year. Yeah, and I'm expecting it, not just the energy of being here at Country Boy, but Stoop's teams always bounce back. Like I said, it might not be a win, but I think they'll at least put a performance together you can be a little proud of. It just really stinks that Georgia's the opponent this week. I'd rather be at Florida where you go win one and just shake that game off. I hate the match up, but I really think he'll have them bounce back, maybe a little back against the wall situation.
Starting point is 00:08:53 We heard about captains coming into his office with their frustrations. I mean, they know that they dropped the ball, and I think they'll respond. All right, so I want to take a poll of people here. I want to see a notion of where the fan base is. We have left games against Murray, Ohio, Vandy, Florida, Auburn, Louisville. Those are seven very winnable games, and then we have the three more difficult, excuse me, six winnable games, and then we have the four more difficult. I want to ask how you get, give me how you genuinely feel, not what you hope you feel.
Starting point is 00:09:27 All right, how many of you believe that at the end of the year will have eight wins or more? Raise your head. Oh, oh, four people, okay, five people. One of them's had four beers. How many of you, one for each one? How many of you think we'll have seven wins at the end of the year? basically beat everybody we should and Louisville. How many have six wins at the end of the year?
Starting point is 00:09:52 That seems all right. That looks like the majority. How many of you five? And then how many of you think the only teams we beat are Murray in Ohio? Oh, put your hands down. Get out of here. It hurts. Get out of here with that attitude.
Starting point is 00:10:06 That hurts. Well, okay, so Shannon, here's what I think is interesting. The amount of people that think we're going to win eight is the same as the amount of people that think we're going to win three. the vast majority of people are at six, and to get to six, you basically would beat Murray, Ohio, then probably three of Florida, Vandy, Auburn, Louisville. That's, I think, where you are, right? Yeah, the truth kind of lies somewhere in the middle.
Starting point is 00:10:31 I think we could take last week and say that was an outlier and kind of set that aside and not expect that type of performance for the rest of the year. If so, it's going to be a long season, but I think they can still get to seven wins this year. I'm hanging my hat on this is still, in my opinion, one or something. soup's most talented teams, especially one of his best defenses he's ever had. I'm still hanging my hat on that, that there's a lot of good football coming yet, even though they stunk it up last weekend. By the way, I had it flip just for the record.
Starting point is 00:10:56 The ABC, well, no, the ABC games are on in Lexington, am I right? Why are people telling me they're not? Yeah, they're on in Lexington. I don't know why people can say in the other way, but go ahead. You, you, I think they still have their best performances to come. Oh, yeah. But what I don't know, Drew is, are we going to have multiple performances last week, or was it a fluke?
Starting point is 00:11:17 We kind of got a weird situation where there's only really three games to define this season. I mean, they're going to beat Ohio and Murray, and that's not going to prove anything to anyone. No. They're probably going to lose at Texas, Ole Miss, and Tennessee, as expected. So your whole season comes down to what you do against Florida, Auburn, Louisville. Maybe Vandy. They're much better than anyone thought they'd be. But really, Florida, Auburn, and Louisville will decide this season.
Starting point is 00:11:40 You go three and O in those games. I think we're all happy, and we just go, what the hell happened against South Carolina? two one's a little more difficult one and two oh and three we know it's a bad year but it's odd to have so many games left but there's only three that will determine how we'll feel at the end of the season I think so which brings me to the fan base all right so first of all this is a great crowd that's a heartening that's a good that's heartening but I was trying to think about the last time Ryan I feel like the fan base has been where it is today and I think you got to go back to to, I don't know, Joker? I mean, let's be honest. I mean, because in the early Stoops years, there was still an excitement that they were building something, and it's like, when is there, like, it's coming, it's coming.
Starting point is 00:12:30 I think if they had lost to Mississippi State in that famous game, that might have changed, but they won that game. I feel like part of what's hard is, I don't remember, we've done this show a long time. I remember trying to get shows excited during the Joker era, and it just wasn't happening. I don't think we're there there. But I also can't remember during the Stoops era when I felt the fan base feel like it does right now.
Starting point is 00:12:59 I agree with you. I mean, I think we had maybe some slight hints of it last year. Like it was starting to kind of creep in last year when they kind of struggled a little bit, lost some games they shouldn't have. And then this week it's like it's maybe the biggest swell that I've seen since he's been hired. They've talked a lot about knocking down doors for several years. They've knocked down many doors. That's why the program got in a good place.
Starting point is 00:13:19 But every that South Carolina game, it feels like we're outside the building. We lost our keys. Like, are we even supposed to be near the door? It's like we just took a huge step backwards when there's been a journey and there's been forward progress over five, six, seven years we've all been excited for. But last week just like reverted so far back from what you feel like they've accomplished. Now, what I don't want to do here, though, is be depressing the whole two hours. We've got to try to be excited about it.
Starting point is 00:13:42 So let's talk about some things that can go well Saturday. I do think we've got two former Georgia guys, Shannon. Yes. We got, in theory, the leader of our offense and in theory, the leader of our defense. I was shocked when I saw Jumis, give me his name again. Johnson. Jimus Johnson. Dumas Johnson.
Starting point is 00:14:00 I always want to call him Dumas. Dumas Walker. He said, I have not lost a regular season game since my sophomore year of high school. Oh, my. That's a guy that used to winning. This is a guy who's a junior in college and has not lost a regular season game since his sophomore year of high school. And he said, I don't plan on losing many more. It is nice to have someone, Shannon, with that mindset and that background that is actually on the team.
Starting point is 00:14:32 That is a winner mentality right there. And if that can spread throughout the rest of the team, then that's the mindset you have to have going into every week. does it make you feel comfortable a little bit that you got Brock Van deGrip who knows Georgia inside and out he knows their tendencies he knows what they're going to have for a pregame meal does that give you any comfort knowing that he's our quarterback yeah yes I mean he's not going to see anybody there that he's not I mean if you think about it the first team Georgia defense is who Brock's been playing against a lot so he's not going to be intimidated I don't think when he was there the second team offense is often running against the first
Starting point is 00:15:10 team defense and so he He's played against these guys a lot. So to the extent, Ryan, that you could know their tendencies, et cetera, he does it. Now, whether that matters, we'll find out. But I do think that's a positive. I think that is a huge positive, you know, for a guy's been in their system for a couple of years. Like Shannon said, kind of knows what they can do, can do going against the defense every day in practice. Our kicker is right here, trainer.
Starting point is 00:15:34 He's a Georgia kid. He grew up in Georgia. We'd like to see him trot out there to kick the game winning field goal at the end of the game. I'd love to see that. By the way, how about our kicker? What a consistency, how much consistency he's had this year. That's where the round of them was. I mean, he has been basically automatic since he came from Georgia Southern.
Starting point is 00:15:53 The best thing with Van derriff and Dumas Johnson knowing these teams is normally when you play at Georgia, you're like, oh my God, this is Georgia, I'm terrified. They go to parties with these guys. They were in the cafeteria with these guys. They're going to look across and be thinking of inside jokes, not goofing off. But, I mean, they know these people personally. Whereas past teams, when you haven't played at Georgia, you're thinking, oh my goodness, I've seen this on TV.
Starting point is 00:16:14 I'm intimidated by that logo, but they've been a part of it. They're looking at their buddies and former teammates. Yeah, 859-28027. So I'll ask you, what do you think the end of the record will be? Also want to talk if everybody's okay with it, a little bit of basketball. I heard some good news yesterday I want to share with people about our basketball team and get you ready for the weekend. Mario and I are about to have our Green Bay Road trip.
Starting point is 00:16:39 I will say, I got him started. I had it on Willie Nelson's country station. Willie's Roadhouse. I had him on Willie's Roadhouse and we were driving here and a song called Cattle Call which, to be fair, isn't the
Starting point is 00:16:52 best song in the world. It's on and I'm like thinking about what we're going to talk about in the show and he just looks at me and goes, man, your music's got me feeling some kind of way right now. I don't really know. So only eight hours more
Starting point is 00:17:08 of that today, Mario. It'll be great. We'll take a break and be right back. This is Kentucky Sports Radio. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in.
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Starting point is 00:21:54 Come on out and join us. My cousin is here, Ryan, who lives in Georgetown. Well, as soon as I say that, she's gone, I guess, to the back. But Linda is here, and that was very nice to get to see my cousin make the trip here. And a great group of folks in Georgetown, always one of our best crowds. One person writes, Shannon, I saved this to read for you because I wanted to get your reaction live on the air. Matt, I love your show, and I look past the fact that you're a liberal. With that said, while I'm used to that from you, I'm upset now that I see it bleeding into people like Shannon the dude.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Shannon the dude's scorecard was so biased. Here I thought he was the reasonable one. That scorecard wasn't funny, it was biased, and you have to tell Shannon, I'm very disappointed in him. Donald Trump, is that you? On the text line, it sounds just like something Trump would say. Look, I scored it right down the middle. All right, you call him like you see him.
Starting point is 00:22:50 If Trump had won, I would have told you that Trump won. Whether you like it or not, he did not win that debate. All right? I also would note, it seemed to me you were pretty unsurious about that, like you were doing your thing. Yeah, I mean, I don't take it that seriously. So for those of you who do... You want to apologize to him? Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:23:07 You can apologize to me for wasting a... minute of the show today. One thing we learned about Shannon is he wants you to have that American flag pin on if you're running. That carries a lot of weight on the scorecard. Sir, can I get you to stand up just a second right here? That is a party. I want you to, folks, look at this shirt.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Yeah. Like, now that. A man came to party. Came to fish. That is a shirt. I've seen a lot of shirts. That is one of the ones I've seen, and it is right there. It's a giant fish of lightning bolt.
Starting point is 00:23:36 It's a lightning bolt striking a bass. We had a meeting. We had a meeting yesterday with the ESPN executives telling us what to wear to the party. And they were like, it's not so much of what you wear, it's what you don't wear. They would have showed a picture of that shirt is what I'm not supposed to wear to the party tomorrow night. But I do like it. You're rocking it, so I appreciate it. Where do you fit into that conversation?
Starting point is 00:23:59 I'm not supposed to wear it. Let me ask you a question, Ryan. After last night, I don't know how many of you guys watched the game. Tough conversation, but do you think Tua, you think you? He should probably, is he going to have to retire? It was once again hard. You know, he's been hurt three times, and all three times have been in a game that was on prime time with the whole country watching, which is partially, I think, why we're all connected to it.
Starting point is 00:24:23 When I saw him take that hit last night, I was like, I think he's got to retire. If you were Tua's brother, what would you say at this point after three concussions in two years? I got a knot in my stomach seeing that last night because of what he's already gone through. If I'm his brother, I'm telling him, dude, it's time to hang it up. You've got a lot of life to live. Your football shelf life is short anyway. You've got many, many years after that. If you want to live a prosperous life and enjoy your family, enjoy your kids, you need to step away now.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Let me ask you, though, you know yourself. Would you be able to step away? I mean, you're like one of the most competitive when it comes to sports, and you're one of the most competitive folks I know. Would you be able to, what he's just 25, 26, to walk away at that point in your life? Probably not. You know, because it's all you know. You work your whole life to get to that point.
Starting point is 00:25:18 You're playing the NFL. You think, oh, I can get over this. Yeah, you may get over it for a couple years. But 15, 20 years from now, you have all these serious complications. But to answer your question, man, I don't think I could. By the way, that's why it's so hard is he's going to feel like Drew he can go play. Like, he's not – the problem is it'll be 15. or 20 years before the effects are like shown, and that's what makes it, I think, hard
Starting point is 00:25:41 is he'll walk around and feel like I'm good. Yep. And then I don't know. I don't know what you do. Yeah, it's got to be a tough spot for him. I would encourage him to step away and live your best life. But, you know, he's what, 25, 26, super competitive, the face of a franchise. I completely understand why he'd want to get back out there.
Starting point is 00:26:01 But, man, and speaking personal experiences, you know, our boy Freddie's going through a little bit of this, seeing how it can be. I worry about what he's got long-term. That scene of his arm, I'm not a doctor, but when his arm clenched up last night, he bawled that fist. That's hard to watch. Drew makes a very good point, and I'm not,
Starting point is 00:26:19 I hate this because this is usually one of our biggest party shows of the year. But I did want to, I'm glad Drew brought up Freddie, because, you know, he loved this show. He came to this one multiple times over the years, and he loved being here with the fans. You guys always treated him very, well. It has been
Starting point is 00:26:38 it has been very tough to see a man that we love like Freddie going through what he's going through and he's still Freddie he's still like doing he's still doing well but he's going through it
Starting point is 00:26:54 and it's been hard to watch him have to do that and what I would say to you is first of all I hope everybody will say a prayer for Freddie as well but secondly you know if you have a I'm not going to tell anybody how to live, but, you know, people need to be careful because we've sat and watched it with, you know, a close friend. And I just, when I saw Tua, I admit, I thought
Starting point is 00:27:22 about Freddie. And I thought to myself, you know, life is short and football is fun, but life is short and you have to, you got to be careful. So I'm not trying to bring the mood down, but I did think it was worth saying, and I would ask all the people listening. Just think about him. He's a wonderful man and say a prayer for Freddie when you get a chance. We'll transition to who's up first. Jerry is up first. Jerry, go ahead, Jerry.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Hey, Matt. First I want to say, you know, I went to Roe to the one flavor that was there ever game. One-11, Curry, I was there ever game. I'll be out there at Combo Stadium come hell and high water, rooting for the cats. I don't care what happens, number one. But number two, the thing that concerns me a little bit is that, you know, if this does evolve into a three, four, or five win season, it's probably going to get pretty ugly. And do you guys think, you know, Stoops is the same age as brother retired at? And you think that maybe at the end of the year the Stoops, if it's a really bad year, might take a look at retiring.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Yeah, I have no inside knowledge of what Stoops will do. I haven't talked to even about it, so I want to be clear, like, it's always hard for me. talking about football, it was like this with Cal for many years, that people know I'm close to some of those guys, so I don't want people to give too much stock into what I say. So I have not talked to Mark Stoops about this.
Starting point is 00:28:49 I do think it is almost certain to me he will not coach way up into age. And I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't coach more than a year or two. And then I think when you look at Drew how this season's gone,
Starting point is 00:29:04 it wouldn't be crazy to say if he doesn't want to coach more than a couple years, maybe this would be the last one depending on how it went. Yeah, I don't know Stoops that well. I don't know what he's thinking, but even before the South Carolina game, before the Southern Miss game, I looked at this season as, you know, it could be the end of Stude. I just feel like he doesn't have much left in the tank regardless. I've always thought early retirement for Mark Stoops. He's done very well. He has the family history. That was all before this bad loss. So who knows how that changes it. Yeah. We'll see. This certainly won't, hasn't helped what's happened so far. We'll take a break.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Be right back. We are here at Country Boy. This is Kentucky Sports Radio. Welcome back, Kentucky Sports Radio. 859-2802287. The A-Vision Auto Glass text machine. 772-774-5-254. Here's what I want you to do at home.
Starting point is 00:29:55 I did the poll here. I want to see it from you. Just send me the amount of wins you think Kentucky football will end with. 772-7-7-4-5-254. Just send the number. It could be anywhere from three to I guess you could consider. win 11 if you were to beat Georgia. How many do you think they'll be?
Starting point is 00:30:13 I'd like to see kind of where the fan base is, not counting, not counting the bowl games if we end up going to a bowl game. One person writes, Matt, I think we end up beating Ole Miss, but that only happens if the game Saturday is at least moderately close. What do you think the crowd will be like Saturday, and then what do you think the crowd will be like next Saturday? So I actually think the crowd tomorrow, let me ask a question. How many of you going to games tomorrow?
Starting point is 00:30:42 Raise your hand. I see, that's a lot of people. That's a lot of people that are going tomorrow. I think we're going to get, Drew, a pretty good crowd tomorrow. I think Georgia fans are about to flood this city tonight. I don't know what's going to happen next Saturday. Next Saturday's Burbid and Beyond. You know, there's a lot of stuff going on playing Ohio, but I do think we get a good crowd this set.
Starting point is 00:31:04 I'm hoping so. I have seen a lot of tickets for sale online, but it's season tickets. holders and then some fan that doesn't get to go very often swoops in and buys them, it seems. So I'm hoping we're just kind of flipping who's in the seats. But it has been a little, you know, not great to see how many have been posted since that game. How many of you all? It was impossible to get a Georgia ticket a week ago. Now it's pretty easy to find.
Starting point is 00:31:24 How many of you all that are going that don't usually go but got tickets from somebody else? All right. So this is a season ticket holder kind of group and they are still going. And Ryan, I think that's a good sign that they'll still be a lot. I mean, everybody I know that the season ticket holder is going tomorrow. Now, a lot of them have said, I don't know if I'm going the next week, but I do know a lot. I think a lot of them are going tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:31:47 I agree with both you guys. I do fear there's going to be a lot of red in the stadium tomorrow, but I think our fan base will show up. I was worried about that Ohio game until you said that was parents weekend. I think that will – our fans may show up with the parents that are coming in for the weekend. I hope so. So what percentage – Even if you're not a student, just bring your parents.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Yeah. What percentage are we thinking? I think the stadium will be... 70-30? Kentucky 7-30? No, Kentucky will have a lot. Kentucky will be 80, 20, but that's still, that 20's a lot. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:32:19 It's a lot of 20. When you're in the stadium and you see 80% blue, but you see the 20 red, the 20 red does stand out because it's such a distinct. So they'll be a lot, but I still think we'll have the most by far. Let's talk about basketball for a second. I spent the last two days kind of, I'm trying to, I'm going to be like, y'all, I'm trying to learn the team. Like, it makes me feel like in a really weird position that I'm supposed to talk about a basketball team that, with the exception of the two kids from Kentucky, I've never seen any of them play, or at least never really focused on any of them playing.
Starting point is 00:32:58 You know, I watched, I guess, Lamont Butler a couple games. I watched Jackson Robinson a couple games, but, you know, Amari Williams, I don't remember seeing, Kerr, Kleeza, I remember his name. But, you know, most of these guys, Kobe Brea, I don't remember really watching much. It's hard for me to know. So I said to somebody I trust who's been to a lot of practices, I want you to give me, I don't want to be the guy who's in charge of overhyping the team, but I also don't want to be the one that's underhyping it.
Starting point is 00:33:29 So tell me what I should think. And this is what I, this was what was told to me, right? The person said, I don't see any way this team is not a top 25 team. He goes, there's too much talent and the kids are too good that they won't be top 25. Now, he said, do I think they can be top five? I don't know because I think they need one other dude to break out and be a star besides Robinson. But the person said, I don't see how they're not top 25. They'll be in every game, and they're going to be really fun to watch.
Starting point is 00:34:02 And so let's assume what they said was right, right. Let's say this is a top 25 team in every game, makes the tournament anywhere from a three to five seed, and then we get in the NCAA tournament, see what happens. Do you think the fan base would consider that a successful year? I think they would, after what we've gone through and what we've seen, if we can just get past that first weekend in the NCAA tournament. I think a lot of fans will be happy. But the first weekend, Shannon, that still means your Sweet 16.
Starting point is 00:34:31 I mean, that's better than top 25. What if they go? See, I think part of what has made us frustrated about basketball is that we were bad during the regular season a lot of these years. What if we're competitive and good all year? I think that will help people alive. Absolutely, it will. And, you know, especially like Brian just said,
Starting point is 00:34:53 what we've been dealing with the last few years has been really frustrating. I think for Pope to come in, especially his first year, keep the team the top 25, make it. some noise in the tournament. That's a good first year. I also hope, Drew, that when people, because during the season, there is still a segment of our fan base. I don't think it's a huge
Starting point is 00:35:11 one, but there's a segment still salty about the cat ending who kind of want, I don't know if they want us to not be good, but they're waiting to pounce and say, you all ran Cal off, right? That's there.
Starting point is 00:35:27 I also think people need to remember, though, if we have any regular season stumbles, we were losing 10 games in the regular season every year for the last four some years. So, you know, being competitive will be a step up. Oh, yeah. Two things there. One, if you're wanting Pope to fail so you can say you're right about Cal, get out here. There's no room for that.
Starting point is 00:35:47 We want Kentucky to win every game possible. I agree with that. But the season as a whole, I don't think we're really, oh, I got a little pop. Thank you all. Thank you all. But no, and I'm not trying to be like, you know, it was awful, awful. But the bar is pretty low. for Pope to take some of them in the postseason.
Starting point is 00:36:03 We lost to A&M on Friday in Nashville. We lost to Vandy on Friday in the SEC. Like, Pope doesn't have to do that much to get it on the right track. I understand the concerns around him, but there's just so much experience. I don't think they're going to fail. They have a high floor. I don't know if they're going to be in the final four. I don't even know if they're going to be in the second weekend.
Starting point is 00:36:22 We'll have to see about that. But I don't see it being some huge disappointment. We're all going, what the hell do we do? Maybe six years from now, if we haven't done much, you can say that. but in year one, you don't have to go that much farther to go up. I think you said that yesterday, the high floor. I like that phrase, because I think we do have a high floor. I think it's good.
Starting point is 00:36:40 We're going to be good. Are we going to be great? I don't know. But we're going to be good. And I also think they have things set up to where, through the portal, Pope is going to get his players. I still don't know. Is he going to be able to get out of state top recruits?
Starting point is 00:36:58 Let's see it happen once. But besides that, they're going to get the portal guys. And then here's what I think is important. We're going to be fun to put, like, I think the dudes that play here are going to have a lot of fun playing in Pope's system, which will make it easier to recruit guys going forward. Your guys are dead on it. I think our fan base, like we're talking about during the regular season, we're going to see our coach maybe make some changes. Maybe play a zone. Maybe running out of bounds play.
Starting point is 00:37:23 What? We're going to see some things that I think are going to see us we're going to be more competitive and adjust during the game. One thing I'm excited about, the 35-3s game, I'll admit, that's a little gimmicky. I don't know. I don't think they'll do that. But the game where they do it and they're going in, that's going to be about as much fun. I don't care who the opponent is. They're going to beat somebody by 50, scoring 100-something points.
Starting point is 00:37:44 We're going to beat one of these teams at the beginning of the year by like 50 or 60 points. And it's going to, I mean, when we play a game where we're hot, they're going to be, I mean, what was the game last year where we got Alabama in Rupp Arena? You remember when we scored 100? 19 points or whatever. And that was like, oh, man, I think we're going to have a game or two like that this year as well. Who's next? Justin is next. Justin, go ahead, Justin.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Hey, what's up, guys? Matt, earlier today, you said this show is one of the most hype you guys do all year? Well, we got to get it hype. I got something to say. We can't let that one South Carolina game on week two to find our whole season. We can't let these speaking bulldogs take over our season. stadium. We need to show up and show out. We might not beat those bulldogs, but we're going to fight. And I'll tell you all what, will we go down to Oxford to take on those overrated rables?
Starting point is 00:38:42 Raples. Raples. We're going to beat them. Let him cook. Yeah, I said, I said it, 4238 Wildcats. I like it. And then we're going to beat Vanderbilt. We're going to beat Vanderbilt. We're going to beat Florida, and then we're going to beat Auburn. And then Tennessee you better you better watch out Tennessee because this big blue storm is coming thanks for taking my call and K Y until I die yeah there you go we do a call today there could I vote for a call that was a good Howard D you just did there that was a good Howard D you just did there that was a good Howard D thank you very much we're going to New Hampshire then we're going to go out sounds just like them I had a lot of practice I mean I don't
Starting point is 00:39:29 I don't know if that totally worked, Drew, but he gave it a shot there, right? We need more of that and less of the, oh, no, poor us. We lost to South Carolina. The game's tomorrow. Let's get fired up and cover the spread. Okay. What if we won? Oh, goodness.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Just saying, just saying, it's not going to happen, probably. But what if we want? It would be the biggest win. It would be the biggest regular season win for Kentucky. ever right ever i mean it's bigger than lSU because that year against ls u i think we were undefeated or we were five and or something going into the game it would be the biggest ryan regular season win if george's won what did 41 regular season games in a row they are the number one team not just this year they were last year they were the year before that yeah this would be the biggest that means
Starting point is 00:40:21 they're due for a loss that's exactly right you don't beat 42 teams in the regular season in a row they get 41 you might get 41 not 42 We're, there is a little bit of something, too. Teams can't win forever. They have to slip up. This team, Georgia's still very good, but they're not as elite as they were in the last couple years. They don't have a Brock Powers.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Carson Beck's amazing, but the pieces around them aren't as awesome as they've been in the last few years. Look, we're trying. What do you want me to do? Stop overpaying for sunglasses. If you're tired of buying expensive sunglasses only to lose or break them, why not get shady rays? A independent American-owned company, premium polarized shays. They have tangle free for Drew's long hair.
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Starting point is 00:45:49 Clark's Pump and Shop, they've arrived, unfortunately. There's a Georgia fan in the back. the Bulldog, so I think we got to go Boo. Is that Uggah? Get Uga out of here. Yes, no, nobody can hear you. You don't have a microphone. Just stop. We're just booing you. 859-28027.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Let's go over some scheduling for tomorrow. The game is at 7.30. Our pre-game show will be 330 to 530. These guys will be at the bar. I'll be checking in from We'll be, I guess, Mario and I will be in Milwaukee. We will have everybody at the bar.
Starting point is 00:46:30 The bar opens at 11 tomorrow. The buses start running from the parking lot at what is it? Five. Five tomorrow. Three hours before the game? He's right. 4.30. So, again, just a friendly reminder is a rule.
Starting point is 00:46:47 If you're going to come, make sure you patron one of the businesses at the bar. We watch. It's not cool for you to park in the. get on the bus one of these days they're going to enforce it and be careful parking in the nine spots at the dairy queen uh game is at 730 post game show we'll go on after that 859 280 2287 who's up next john is up next john go ahead john hey i just want to get this on the record before the uk georgia game if you can cover it's on the record if uk covers or keeps it close It's not an accomplishment.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Kirby's smart against teams. He knows he's going to win, and he keeps it vanilla. He only calls four or six plays. Let me ask you a question. How can you say, I want you to be honest, how can you say it's not a compliment if we keep it close against a team that has lost or has won 41 straight games in the regular season?
Starting point is 00:47:44 If the coach is intentionally calling plays that are less than where he's just playing. Let me ask you, do you honestly? honestly think Mark Stoops is going to go, I don't care if we win, I want to cover. You don't really believe that. Oh, no, no, I'm not saying Mark Stoops. I'm saying Kirby Smart calls four or six plays because he wants to keep his playbook tight so teams that are better than us don't have a better insight on what they're calling.
Starting point is 00:48:08 He did not, that is just not true that he did that like three years ago when we went down there and it was a game in the fourth quarter. Kirby Smart was not holding plays because he thought for sure. college game day was there that week. You think that they were like, let's hold the plays. Yeah, I don't look. UK football and Stoops, UK football and Stoops deserve all the criticism they got last week for how they play. But it will not be fair if they play this Georgia team even moderately well and close
Starting point is 00:48:45 to then go, well, it's just because Georgia didn't care. That's not fair. If you're going to criticize them when they mess up, you do have to give them praise when things go well. Hey, I understand that. I'm just saying this is what Kirby Smart does against teams he believes he's going to beat. Georgia has covered. Georgia has covered. Hang on just a second.
Starting point is 00:49:06 I just saw this number. Georgia, when they've been a 15-point or more favorite under Kirby Smart, has covered 78% of the top. I mean, I guess that does keep some talent in in that case. No, it's speaking to the fact that you're, I don't say this to be rude to you, but it's speaking to the fact that you want to downplay any potential success Kentucky could have this week and act like it doesn't matter, facts be damned. I'm not trying to say that.
Starting point is 00:49:42 I was going off my past experience where I've seen Georgia when they do this, where they just keep it, they keep the playbook small. And when they believe the talent. Well, all right. Well, the numbers are different than your past experience, but I do appreciate the call. Who's up next? Nate is up next.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Nate, go ahead, Nate. Yeah, Matt. Yeah, man. I think one thing I want to see on Saturday is Brock Vandergriff, not seeing ghosts. Because for these young cues, he's not young, but it's for a first time starter. If he continues to just get just trash back there,
Starting point is 00:50:18 it could, you know, mess him up going forward. because people got to remember we could have them for two years. And then I'm going to give you the Rockins. Go ahead. John Summerall, with, inshalla, hopefully it'll be our next hit coach, who's going to cover that 13 and a half against Oklahoma. Yep, I agree.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Central. All right, appreciate to call. Let me go on the Braggandegrave point. There were times in that first game, Ryan, where even the pressure wasn't great, and he was still backpedaling. It felt like, I felt like the pressure didn't just, affect him when they touched him or hit him.
Starting point is 00:50:53 It was affecting him on other plays because I think that scene goes like being worried and backing up was happening to him the whole game. And I really think, you know, he was. He got a little apprehensive there in the second half. That's why they went totally to the running game. I think they were no and had no confidence in him at that point.
Starting point is 00:51:09 They put those two tied in. They ran the ball 11 plays in a row. They may have to look to do something the same thing again this weekend. And you can understand, Shannon. I mean, this dude hasn't started a game in three years. Yeah. And then he gets out there, and he's just getting hit from all sides. Now he's going to play another defense that's going to be hitting him from all sides.
Starting point is 00:51:28 And I do think it's important. He probably needs to stay in there and just take a hit a couple times to realize, like, because he cannot. There were plays where he had a pocket, and he just started backstepping because I think he didn't want to be hit. Just anticipating and assuming that they're going to be converging on them. And I think, you know, you get one or two good hits. That's probably going to make you feel that way. Like, you know, you have no room to breathe back there.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Will the offensive line be better, Drew? I mean, it's hard to say they're going to be worse. That's my point. I'm just playing numbers game here. Now, I know Jagger Burton still needs to be better, but him being out, that's a big deal. You're putting in probably Dylan Ray in that spot. You've got Gerald Mincy who's hurt. They have him listed at probable on these new fancy injury reports that I really like, by the way.
Starting point is 00:52:16 But still, you're going to be watching some freshmen play, make their first, play their first snap. on the offensive line against Georgia. That's very concerning. Now with Brock Vandigriff, I don't want to make a big opinion about him after last week, but he does when the first guy's not there, he tucks it pretty quickly. And I know a lot of that's on the offensive line, but that can't be the case forever. You've got to stand in the pocket and see it through. What do you make about Vandigriff being in the listed on the injury report is probable?
Starting point is 00:52:46 Is there a chance? Is there a chance he doesn't play? I think he'll play how much I don't know. No, we're already down. Wait a man, how much? You think he's, like, potentially out for some of the game? Maybe that, because I think they're going to have to play Wimpsett just because they can run the ball better with him in there.
Starting point is 00:53:01 You know, we're down and running back. But you don't think it's because of injury. I don't think it's because of injury. Something happened in the Southern Miss game. He said in the post-game interviews kind of, I don't know if it's slipped, but he kind of mentioned a shoulder injury. Something happened to week one. I don't know how bad, but something happened.
Starting point is 00:53:13 They just added him to the injury report yesterday, so that it's something. I don't know what it is, but it's something. We're going to take a break and come back. Hour number two here at Country Boy in Georgetown. This is Kentucky Sports Radio. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends.
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