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Welcome, everyone, Kentucky Sports Radio Tuesday, September the 17th.
I am Matt Jones here at the KS Bar and Grill on a, I don't know, a cloudy day in Lexington, Kentucky.
I don't have quite the same pep in my phone.
voice, Ryan. I got home last night, and I just lost my voice. It's actually much better today than it was
last night. When I went to bed last night, I thought, I can't take another day off. I've missed so much time. People
already think I'm abandoning this. I cannot take another day, but I woke up this morning a little
better, but it sounds like I have a frog in my throat. It does. That's what I was going to say. You seem like, though,
you feel better than you sound. I just, I was much more tired yesterday, but, uh, I was, but, uh, I was going to say, you seem like, though, you feel better. I feel better. I feel fine. I just, I was, I was much more tired yesterday, but
I sound, you know, like this.
So this is what you get today.
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We are here at KS. Bar. We got, what were that?
Kelly from Princeton is here with us, and you can come out and have lunch.
We open the garage, and even though we don't open the food to 11, you can come and sit and enjoy a wonderful show.
here and we're ready to rock.
Birthday to yoga girl today.
Oh, are there?
Yeah.
Happy birthday.
Are you ever going to actually say her name to the people?
I think I slipped up and said it last week.
But do you just, I mean, like, you said it a few times.
But do you not want to say it?
Because, you know, I find myself, she was at a funeral.
Yes.
I was at.
And I find myself calling her yoga, which is not what you should say to someone.
So, I mean, do you ever, do you want to ever use her name or no?
I, wait a minute.
Hang on a second.
Those are words.
Yeah.
No, I'm trying to, like, keep her identity.
Maybe she's been wanted out there.
I don't think you're doing the best job.
I'm not doing the best job.
You've been in us weekly.
I mean, I feel like that they're.
Tops and Lex.
Tops and Lex.
That's when we know.
Monthly, other than Tobs and Lex.
Are they?
It's been a while, but we've definitely been in Tops and Lex.
But you do, but you don't want the.
name out there. Well, I'm okay with it, but I don't know if she's that. Okay, I understand that. I understand that. I get why you
wouldn't want to do that. That's why I don't ever, you know, talk about dating is I don't want, it's for the
other person more than even, more than even me. So I get it. But you have to be careful because I don't,
it's weird for me to go up to people I know and go, nice to see you at this funeral, yoga girl.
That's a weird thing to say to someone. People were asking how Ryan's doing. I'm like, well,
yoga girls updating me and take me a fair of them. I mean, I think it's okay for like Matt and Drew to know her real
name. I mean, I know her name. I know her name. I just saying because you say that, I mean,
you, even when you're talking to us, call her yoga girl. Like, you don't even use her real name
with us, and it's easy just to forget that's not her name. And I still don't even know why she's
called that. I started it. I started calling her that. Just because she won't. She doesn't even go to yoga
that much, does she? I mean, that's like calling me, I don't know, Indian restaurant guy, because I go once every
two weeks. Like is that, she, she, uh, has a yoga curriculum and teaches yoga to preschool kids.
Okay. All right. Well, there you go.
If I'm not too. You know, this big week, Mario's birthday is Thursday. Yeah. How did I not know that?
Well, happy birthday early. I'll have to get you a present. Uh, but I mean, it's not going to be good,
but like, but it'll be something. We'll get you a French fry. Yeah. I mean, after you've been here a
full year, then maybe we'll get you something nice. Now, the other kind of big story besides Ryan's
girlfriend is that is that drew there was a message board post uh right on ks board okay so ks board
of course that's the message board associated with ksr the website uh it's really grown like in the last
few months grown like doubled it's it's become a vibrant community and you know as any vibrant
community shannon you you start to like get to know each other that's right yeah so there was a message board
post on ks board
yesterday that said that on Saturday during the game here at KS. Bar, a person from KS.
Board, so part of the community.
Yeah, part of the community, Shannon, this is part of the community, had come up to Drew
and introduced herself, and they said that Drew was not friendly.
In fact, they said, Drew has a reputation of being nice and smiling to people, and
Drew did not smile and was not nice.
Now, I do not take joy in this.
But since that's usually what's said about me, it was nice to see someone else get it.
Do you want to apologize?
Well, let me tell the whole story.
They first asked on KS Board where they should go at a sports bar in Lexington heading in for the game.
Naturally, I chime in, as others did, go to KS Bar.
We would love to see you.
So you didn't even be nice.
So I invited them the call.
Then they left a review.
Can I just read the whole review?
Read the review.
They called it the after action report, which is what Freddie used to do after action review.
All right, after action report.
Went to KS Bar.
It was good.
Atmospheric is great.
Shuttle situation, perfect and easy.
Oh, perfect and easy?
Biggest surprise was how unfriendly drew from the show looks.
Wow, shit.
By all accounts.
Friendly.
Wow.
By all accounts, nice guy, but he had a cold glare.
Cold glare on Saturday.
Wow.
I feel terrible.
Cold glare.
I want to redo Saturday and bring my hottest glare.
Well, let's slow down.
You're married.
But the cold glare.
That one hurt me.
I'm not going to lie.
I take pride.
and being a nice person and showing people a good time here at KS Bar and Grill,
and I had a cold glare on Saturday.
Cold glare.
And see, here's the thing, Shannon.
I leave for a weekend, and he becomes Hannibal Lennel.
I think it's whoever's hosting the show.
I was hosting a pregame show that day.
Okay, so you, I let Drew, or I asked Drew to drive the pregame show Saturday,
and now you see, see, everybody says Shannon, oh, Matt's unfriendly, Matt,
just with remotes, rides, talking to everybody.
the reason is I'm trying to put on a show.
And so while during the breaks, Ryan can go dance and do cartwheels with people,
somebody has to have something for us to talk about the next segment.
My cold glare could have been listening to Billy giving me instructions.
Exactly.
Is it possible he was just so focused on doing a good show that, you know, somebody comes up and interrupts you?
But hopefully it's a good lesson.
Like when, you know, in a three-minute break, Shannon or Billy might be giving me instructions.
I've got to figure out a topic.
how many callers are on is one of them
and James Stress.
Like there's all these things you have to deal with
at any point and it leads to
Drew the cold glare.
I had to keep Max under control.
You heard a little preview of how Max was on Saturday.
We're still Ryan still recovering.
There was a lot going on.
I can hear in his voice when Max has that naughty.
Like, you know what I mean?
It's like there's a substitute teacher.
Yeah, and I could hear that any month Saturday as well.
Now, the other thing we had the KSR Golf Scramble
Ryan had his vertigo act up a little bit,
so you were not able to put.
I walked out with you on that first hole to putt.
I put my head down on the ball,
looked at the hole,
looked back to the ball,
and I said, I can't do this.
I felt bad for you.
You did look like it.
So you have been pretty good recently.
As long as I sit still or not moving.
But you literally, when he reached over, Shannon,
and stared at the golf ball and then looked up at the hole,
you got dizzy and couldn't do it.
Something about that movement of my head.
So I'm a little, like, are you getting treatment?
I know you're going to court for physical therapy, but like the underlying thing.
Apparently, it's like, I don't even know you had crystals in your ear canals.
You don't have crystals in your ear canals.
Yes, you do.
Yes, you do.
He's talking about crystals.
He's going to end up in a store and he's going to end up buying moon water.
You put jars of water out.
Yeah, I mean, listen, don't.
I went out with a woman one time that was into all that stuff.
Don't, are you, apparently there's a shop out in Versailles Road where a woman will sell you moon, something, like rocks.
But no, no, he's saying, he's not talking about it.
He's talking about there's actually crystals floating in your ear.
Like what kind of crystals?
I didn't even know we had them, but in the fluid in your ear canals, there's crystals, and they can get out of whack.
So how do you get them back in whack?
Well, does these little treatments I do?
Like what?
Well, one's called the Epley maneuver, where you lean on the bed with your head hanging over the side of your bed.
And like you look right.
for a minute and then you look left for a minute
and then you roll over on your side
and let your head hang out. It seemed to help.
Yeah.
So, I mean,
I kind of thought, every time I had seen you,
you had gotten better and better and better.
And then I felt like yesterday I was worried.
I talked to my mom on the drive home and she was worried about.
So I was something weird, man,
about looking over that golf, standing over that golf,
their head down and looking to the hole and looking back.
I'm like, whoa, I can't do this.
Okay. Well, so Shannon, because he couldn't do it,
I had Mario putt.
Oh, how was that?
Worst golf ruffer.
I heard Mario had never even step foot on a golf course until this year.
Potentially the worst golfer I've ever's.
And that's a strong statement.
But his first six or seven puts did not come within 30 feet of them.
I mean, it was astounding how bad they were.
And then one guy nearly holes out from the fairway.
He did.
I mean, he literally almost dunked it.
Yeah.
And it stopped, what do you think, Ryan?
Eight inches away.
Six to eight inches away.
We were like, here we go.
Myles made his first putt he's ever hit.
And Shannon, he missed an eight-inch putt.
Oh, my gosh.
I did not know it was humanly possible to miss a putt that short.
And he went and he just ran 50 yards away.
It did.
And then refused to play for the rest of the day.
It was like, I'm not playing anymore the rest of the day.
And the thing was, we were going to film it so we could get
his first make and I wish we had it
because it was the worst thing I've ever seen. I thought
Ryan was bad.
Ryan is Sevy Ballesteros
compared to compared to Mario.
I got to tell you, I rode home with Mario.
He drove me and he was still eating
at him on the way home. It should have.
It was an embarrassment. I should have hit that put
man. He's done a lot. Good job since he's
been here, but he's docked at least two days
pay for that put. It was absolutely
awful. Should we set up a Mario put for prison?
Oh, listen. We'd have to send him to Rikers
if we did that. It was funny when he was
It was funny he ran off the green, ran down the hill, because it was kind of elevated green, and took off running.
I didn't even see him for a while.
Well, we had fun in Somerset.
A lot of fun.
All the folks that were there.
I really enjoy.
I sit at 18 all day like you usually do.
Yeah.
To meet everybody, and it was really good.
Do you hear the winning score?
It had to be those four college golfers, right?
There were two at 23 under.
My goodness.
Two of them.
Two of them.
They tied at 23 under.
So they eagled every par five and eagles.
to par four had to allegedly yeah there was a group of four dudes they play golf at midway is that
what it was whatever those dudes were good like that they were killing it so i could see that
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georgia game um i don't you know i i i think i've said before i can't really listen to things
that aren't this show so i'll listen to bill simmons
I'll listen to Bill Simmons and Cousin Sal do their football thing.
If I'm bored, I might turn on Rucillo until he becomes a little much.
It's like self, but, you know, I don't know.
He just worked out stuff.
Yeah, it's a little much.
I do think he's entertaining.
It becomes a little much.
I like when part of my take does their Chris Berman, the fastest two minutes.
So the point is I'd gotten through all that.
And so then I was like, well, let me just turn on a couple of college football
podcast just to see just to see.
and all of them.
We're talking about the punt.
Yeah.
All of them.
Yesterday, I want to give Mark Stubbs a lot of credit for the way he's handling the criticism,
even though I disagree with him, unlike some coaches who've been here and lose their minds
and say everybody's an idiot, he said in his press conference yesterday, I don't mind the
criticism.
I get it.
But he doubled up and said, this is just how I feel.
Which I actually respect that, that he's not like, you know, he's taking the criticism in
stride, the more I think about it, the more I don't like it.
But I also want to say this.
I hope that that criticism of which I will continue to do does not overshadow how good that
performance was.
Absolutely.
Because I do think it is important to realize, even though we may all be frustrated,
myself included that they didn't go for it.
Drew, that was still a heck of performance.
And people could say, I like more victories, more victory.
It's Georgia, right?
I'd agree with you if it was South Carolina, but it's Georgia.
I do still think it's a positive day.
Yeah, I think it's positive.
Stoops has defended his point multiple times now.
It's clear that he believed in it.
People just disagree.
Still does.
I just hate that that's lingering out of what was such a great game.
I just wish it could have ended a little differently.
Even if they go for it and don't get it, we're not having these conversations.
It's just like what should have been as good a day as you can have in a loss.
We have this thing lingering and it's a national conversation about the wrong decision.
I just hate that that's still hanging on.
Yeah, so I want to be very clear.
I'm still very positive about the game.
It has re-energized my excitement about the season, which was maybe at a zero and has now made it to where I'm probably going to go to Ole Miss.
I think I'd almost cancel my trip because I was like, and now I think I'm going to go because why not?
So, Ryan, but I still wish they had gone for it, but I also think it ends up being still a good day.
I was curious to see where our fan base heads were going to be after the game Saturday.
And I think a lot of people are like you.
I think we've kind of moved on from that in South Carolina game.
We're back on board with this football team and know there's still a lot of wins out there.
They can get not so sure of this time last week we thought they were going to get them.
Now I'm back on board.
Yes, they can get those wins.
Yeah.
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Still want to hear you on the text machine.
A lot of people writing in.
One person writes, Matt, I was at the Somerset Scramble.
Not going to lie, I said to my buddy, Drew doesn't seem as friendly as he used to be.
I didn't see a cold glare, but I think I saw a cold heart.
Whoa.
Maybe I need to do some looking in the mirror here.
Maybe it's not just cat fan girl on KS board here.
Maybe I need to do some self-reflect.
I actually like this because usually I'm the one that gets this.
No, first of all.
Right?
Well, you do.
And I am nice.
You are nice, but you do have a resting bitch face.
I think.
Well, you do.
Maybe it's the company.
Yeah.
I want to defend you guys.
I think you do a great job with fans, especially here.
We have big crowds when they come up and want to say hi, get a picture.
I think you guys actually do a great job with it.
I do is, like, the best place to catch me is here.
Yeah.
Because when I walk in here, the moment, like right before I walk in,
I like get in the frame of mind and talking to people, right?
The hardest thing is when I see someone, like, just in life, like out in public.
And you're reading your...
Because I might not...
Like, I might not be ready.
And then people usually do the, hey, Matt, love the show.
Or, I have a quick picture.
And, like, that stuff I'm good with.
But then sometimes people will go, like, they'll go, you know, Matt was at Chapoel and he wasn't nice to me.
And I go, well, that might have been that the person in front of me in line was taken too long.
It might not have had anything to do with you.
So, but in this bar, I like meeting people and talking to people.
or even at a remote or whatever.
I think I'm just going to lean into it and be the jerk now.
They've created a villain.
This is my villain origin story beginning right here.
One comment.
One person writes, Matt, I was fine with Stoops punting,
but I didn't understand how that equated with his conversation yesterday
about not having a passing offense.
So yesterday he said in his press conference,
look, we are not built to have to get big gains in obvious passing downs.
Okay.
actually think that's true. That's a fair point. Fourth and eight is a passing down. So I get what
he's saying, kind of. But the thing is, if you punt, you're setting it up to where you're going
to have to throw it in obvious passing down. Because you're going to get the ball back having to go
40 yards with no timeouts, which means guess what? You're going to have to pass. So like, I don't
I don't think that statement justifies the decision, right? Yeah, we were losing 10 to 15 yards
after every punt.
So even if they had punted,
we held it.
Why are we still not punting the other guy?
I mean, we are losing 10 yards to every punter.
And it's getting lost in the grand scheme of it.
Wilson Barry,
I give him credit.
He has like,
he does 37-yard punts.
Exactly.
It's unbelievable.
It's unbelievable.
It's like 37 yards is built into his soul,
which is fine.
But they're kicking it 48 yards,
and we're doing that in every day.
game and I you know maybe the other guy does 148 then 133 but Drew I can't keep seeing us
we lose 10 yards on every exchange of punts it's it's a running joke I'm in multiple group
check group text that say here comes the 37 38 yard and then he follows through it's it's pretty
amazing how he's able to do it honestly I'm kind of rooting for it I want a year of 38 yard puns
I mean he's like the guy that hits it 220 straight down the fairway but we got a guy
who can hit it 280 and we're like let's just not use him we want 220 down the middle and so even if they
had held georgia to do three and out their punter was booming them 10 15 yards farther than our
guy so we would we would have been started backwards even further let's just assume for sake of argument
that they kick it to the 17 and then they get no yards now i got to assume they at least get some yards
because they're going to run the ball in every part but let's just say let's say they get to the 25
let's say they get eight y okay he is going to punt that ball
to at least the, I mean, what, he's going to punt it to probably the 30 of ours.
To get Alex in like comfortable field range, we're going to have to go 35 or 40 yards with about a minute and a half and no timeouts.
We're going to have no timeouts.
He's going to have to throw it.
He's going to have to throw it.
Yep.
And, you know, so we're in the exact same situation.
I thought Steve was contradicting himself with that.
It's like he didn't feel confident to get nine yards one time.
But the scenario he was playing for, you're going to have to get a lot of nine yards on short time with no timeouts.
Yeah.
So, you know.
I like you, though.
I do like how Stoops is handling this.
I do, too.
You know?
You know, it's hard because every time I say something, it gets equated to the last coach.
But how he handles this criticism is how coaches getting paid $9 million should handle.
Yep.
Right?
They should say, I get it.
Here's my thought.
Uh-huh.
Okay.
And if you disagree.
That's fine.
To stupid crazy, he's always been like.
Yeah.
He has always been like that.
He has always been someone, I mean, he has said to me, I know you rip me sometimes, but you got to do it.
I'll tell you a little side note, Mark Pope, when I went and met with Mark Pope,
Mark Pope looked at me at one point and said, I want you to crush me.
This was his direct quote, I want you to crush me when we lose.
because the day you stopped crushing me, this is not Kentucky.
I was like, I said, well, I'm not going to crush you.
And he goes, no, I want you to.
If we lose and we deserve it, you need to crush me because this is Kentucky.
And I thought, man, now it's one thing to say that.
It's another thing to actually believe it.
But I was impressed, Drew even said it, to be honest with you.
And there's obviously a lot of people that disagree with stoops, the majority,
even people nationally.
But I think he has done a good job of at least explaining what his thought was.
Even if people disagree with it, he's at least saying this was in my head.
This is why I did this.
We got to this point.
He's doing his best to explain what Mark Stoops thought in that situation.
Even if people completely disagree, he's trying to open up his brain and let us at least understand why he did it.
All right.
Who's up next?
Let's start with Ryan.
Ryan, how are you, Ryan?
Hey, Matt, I got two quick things.
Before you do it, Ryan, real quick.
Have you ever met Drew?
Yes. Did you think he had a cold stare when you met him?
Well, I met him with my baby, and he flipped me off and turned the scroll.
I see, that's what I'm going on. I remember you.
That was it Don Fran. I remember that.
He flipped off your baby. All right, go ahead. I'll do it again.
Okay, so there's this guy. I've seen this last night. I had the call.
His name is Kyle Troop, and he is a professional bowler from.
Mount Washington and he looks exactly like what you think a professional bowler from Mount
Washington would look like. Oh my goodness. I know. Kyle Troop is that. Yeah, he looks amazing.
He does look like a bowler from Mount Washington. That's all I had. That's a Bullet County bowler
right there, baby. Bullitt. Wow. Oh, my. He's got a little Bob Ross going on with the,
with the that is an amazing hair. How do I see it? Yeah, Kyle Troop, T-R-O-U-P. Yeah. Ryan, I'm
sorry, I have to go to break, but now I have a new favorite bowler.
That's a very smart marketing.
Of course, he's from Mount Washington.
Yeah, drinks Mountain Dew, makes the strikes.
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That's it. That's the stare.
Actually, you know what?
That's the stair down.
The cold is I'm tweeting this out, but cold stare.
People are starting to tweet me interactions we've had.
I didn't know about it.
Read that one.
Tony says, I walked up, turned off his grandma's oxygen, farted, and walked away.
I do not remember doing that, Tony.
You shouldn't have done that to Tony.
Shame on you, Drew.
I'm not going to say I never did it.
To his grandma.
I mean, if you're going to turn off her oxygen, I don't think a fart needs to be thrown into the mix.
That feels like, Shannon, that feels like adding insult to injury.
Yeah.
You have to do that.
That feels terrible.
It feels like an intervention.
The Braves are one game back in the wild card, right?
And they play the Reds tonight.
It's probably going to be the last Reds game I get to go to this year.
I'm going tonight with the turkey hunter and Judge Gabe.
Nice.
And Shannon, you're going on my tickets tomorrow, right?
Yeah, that's the plan.
We'd love to go.
Yeah.
Well, no, you can have them.
But so it's a big game for the Braves, right?
And the Reds, you know, it's going to end.
up being a disappointing year, but I've enjoyed them.
I've actually oddly enjoyed them in the last few weeks even more because it doesn't
matter if they win or not, right?
Like it doesn't matter if they win because, you know, they're out of it.
And I've actually really enjoyed them playing.
The Braves story has been kind of crazy this year.
I know Drew and Shannon are big Braves fans, but they, every single day, it's like another
one of their star players are getting hurt and out for the year.
I mean, they've had a crazy season.
Ozzy's coming back, though.
Ozzie Aubys.
Ozzie Virgil?
No.
Ozzie Obies is coming back.
Oh, okay.
got you
Well, so I'll be there tonight,
but it might be my last game
because their last home game is Sunday.
And, you know, tomorrow I'm giving them to Shannon.
Thursdays during the day.
I'll probably give those away on the show Thursday, by the way,
for Reds Braves.
I'm going to sell Saturday because it's Paul Skeen's last time pitching.
Oh.
And then, yeah, I might go Friday.
I don't know.
But anyway.
If this is the last one, could it be the forever last one?
No, no.
I mean, they keep telling me, give me the math.
They want me to pay right now.
And I'm like, because they keep saying you'll lose your ticket.
And I keep going to who?
Like, who's their line?
Yeah, I mean, where's it going?
You know, and they also said, you got to renew now to get the tickets for Bristol.
And I'm like, you're not fooling.
There's 100,000 people in that stadium.
I think I'm going to be able, Drew, to find a ticket somewhere.
They're working on you, though.
I think by the end of the week you'll be reading it.
I'll do it.
I'm just not giving them that chunk of money right now.
You know, I mean, the thing is, their team.
is probably going to be the same next year because they're all young guys so it's so i kind of know
what the team is going to be and they're they're fun they you know the dude with the long hair
ret louder the guy from wake forest has started pitching and he's been awesome for four starts under
two er a ryan so the future is bright they just can't be hurt they were hurt all year like the
the mclean dude didn't play with clain making mclean was their best player last year he didn't
play one game not one game so uh hopefully it'll get better who's up next satchel satchel how are you
Satch. Yes, yes. I want to clear something up. I think you all misunderstand the interception
rule. I'm a retired official. Okay. What do we miss it? Okay. So the ball touching the ground is
not the determinant of an incompletion. It is the ball moving sufficiently to determine loss of
control. Your hands do not have to be under the ball. That's a wrong idea. They can be on the side.
They can be on the top. And as long as when the ball touches the ground, it can still move.
It just cannot move sufficiently to determine loss of control. And I'll tell you a situation.
This is a look at the life time. Before we go to the situation, so describing that rule, did you think that was an
interception? I thought it was. Because what happens is when he, when he hit the ground and the
ball hit the ground, he still had control of the ball. So isn't he down?
Do you listen to the ball? No, no. You have to have to have. You're down, though, aren't you,
sir? No, no, no. You have to complete the fall. So that means he has to, he has to come to a stop
or do a football move. And when he rolled over. Is that true in college? Wait a man. I, I, I, I,
I want to make sure you're, you know more about it than me, so I'm not trying to do this.
But when his elbow hits in college, now, in the pros, this is different.
But in college, when his elbow hits, is he not down?
No, not.
If his elbow hits and then he subsequently drops the ball, that's an incompletion.
Okay.
He has to maintain control through the completion of the fall.
So what happens is, is once he takes the ball off the ground and he's still rolling, he has not completed the fall, he still has it in his control, then it pops up.
If he was laying there on the ground and it fell back onto his chest, that's a catch.
So to give you an extreme, to give you an extreme example, I was officiating an Armwood game down here in Florida.
and the running back took a pass out in the flat.
I don't want to go to that.
I want to focus on the defense.
So you believe with all of that,
you believe it was an interception.
I do.
I saw a player in the game I was refereeing
did a front handspring using the ball.
Yeah, I don't think that.
All right, well, listen, you know more about it than I do,
so I appreciate the knowledge.
It's always good to have people who have knowledge.
appreciate the call i don't i get what he's saying i still don't know that i would think it's an
interception but at least i mean at least that's somebody who knows making the argument so i i liked
what he's kind of light bulb went on for me when he said if that ball kicked up and it came
right back down to the receiver and he caught it it would have been a completion so i guess i don't
understand what is again this is why i think the NFL rules better to be honest with you i don't
understand all right so i take the ball i fall i have it in my hand
And I agree.
He's right about the ground.
He doesn't have to have it under it.
It hits the ground.
My elbows down.
Are you saying at that moment, I'm not down?
Because in college, the completion of the catch is true.
But then wins he down.
I don't know.
I don't totally.
I mean, you could still bobble it and have an elbow down.
But he wasn't bobling it.
The ground popped it out.
Right?
it's hard to tell
but yeah I think he was trying to say he thought the guy
was kind of still bobbling it
when his elbow hit the ground
well that's the way it is an interception
if you watch it and you think he's still
bobbling it when it hits the ground
but then if it hits the ground it's down
if he's still bubbling it yeah
right it's basically do you think it hit the grip
it could bounce off his hand
in the middle of bobbing
did you think that's what happened
it's so because it's on hand
and a little bit of great you can't tell
how much the hand is really
got it, how much is on the ground.
It's really hard to tell.
It's really hard to turn over.
That's what I was going to say.
The way that we're talking about it would be the argument of, well, you shouldn't have overturned.
That would be the argument.
But, you know, that guy would want to tell me that story about what happened in that high school.
Well, then he said the guy, the cartwheel with the ball.
I want to hear that.
How the heck do you do that?
Who's up next?
Chris.
Chris.
Go ahead, Chris.
I can't.
I was so dejective after that South Carolina game.
to be their performance against Georgia.
I'm not going to lie,
the first thing I did was drop UK tickets
just because, you know,
it's kind of re-energized me.
Again, I can't vouch for everybody.
Well, I understand that.
Listen, if we go down to Florida and beat them,
I mean, Billy Napier will be fired after the game.
Might be fired anyway.
But, yeah, I can understand wanting to go.
Look, I mean, it's like we said before the Georgia game.
What are you going to do?
What are you going to do?
anyway. But go ahead. And it can always be worse, guys. I mean, we could be Florida fans.
Yeah, well, that's another thing. I appreciate the call. I want to, I was going to talk about Florida and Florida State being a combined one and five.
And, you know, Billy Napier surviving, but barely, the Florida State, oh and three. I kind of enjoy it, though.
I'm not going to want to. Yeah, especially after all the whining they did.
All the wind suit of the last year about not making the playoffs. Yeah. We're Ron DeSanta.
put $2 million of state money into investigating the, I mean, come on.
Like, you, it was clear.
Alabama was better, right?
Oh, yes.
I mean, Alabama nearly beat Michigan.
Do you think Florida State would have beat Michigan?
No.
No.
No.
I mean, they're 0 and 3.
And the other thing, I've said this before, I was on the air on ESPN when we
announced Alabama to the playoff.
And Florida state fans acted like Shannon, I made the decision.
Like they were, like you talk about it could kill them.
the bearer of bad news.
That's right. It's all your fault. They were just like, they
were screaming at me. Like, I had personally
decided to pick Alabama.
It was your fault. You would have, though,
if you had the chance. I definitely
would have, because Alabama was better.
I mean, you know,
that's just a fact. But still,
I wasn't the one who did it.
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Boy, the stories keep coming in, Shannon, about Drew that I didn't know.
One person writes, Matt, when KSR came to Middlesbrough High School a few years ago, I went to say hi to Drew Franklin.
He gave me two middle fingers, kicked me in the stomach, and chug two cans of Coke at the same time.
Wow.
It was only one Coke.
It's all Madisonville right there.
Wait until you see what I do when I go to Madisonville.
If you're going to do that in Middlesbrough, I have to do it back.
I also want to note, speaking to Middlesbrough, that makes me think of the cheaters at Lexington Christian Academy.
We've got these high school, this number, Drew, where this computer program predicts the high school.
predicts the high school scores for all the games the massey ratings the massy ratings this dude
massy shannon out he sits at his house and he predicts every high school game in america what a nerd yeah
okay no wait a me he works for yes you need to watch you know you don't have to call him a nerd
i've never met the guy pretty amazing thing to even try to do but you know now he's picking these
scores and the high schools are seeing it and they're getting mad yes they don't like it
it's like we're in every locker room shan and people are mad and so they the high school massy
ratings picked the Christian Academy of Louisville to beat Max Duffy's Lexington Christian team by
28 points.
Oh, so they were hanging in their locker room.
And I guess they want.
So Lexa Christian Academy won.
Yes, it did.
It was a big upset.
They were chanting after it was over about KSR.
I think they probably stole the kids lunch pail, the Massey kid.
He's the, and now Max won't stop talking about it.
So maybe the numbers will be better to Lexington Christian going forward.
These are, I love the numbers, but they're putting us in a little bit of a bond.
Two weeks ago, I got a DM from someone in the high school, livid about our picks.
I'm like, sorry, this is the first time I've seen that pick.
I'm seeing this.
So they blame us.
Oh, yeah.
I think me, you and Ryan sit down and write down numbers.
This is a computer system.
But it's also a prediction.
Like, Shannon, how are you going to get mad at a prediction?
Like it came from him, though.
It's his system.
I understand.
Obviously it's wrong.
predictions are wrong. Do they think he's going to get every game right in the country?
It's a prediction. Yeah, but I mean, if you're on a team and you're supposed to get beat by 28 points and you win, you're going to want to come back and rub it in his face.
I agree with you, but I think people are getting a little angry about the predictions because, Ryan, they're just predictions.
And we didn't make them. I think we're looking at it wrong. They should thank us for picking him as an underdog and kind of fired them up even more.
Now, speaking of bad predictions, the KSR Survivor League, we started with 50 celebrities or people involved with this show.
And after two weeks, we are down to 11.
Yeah, 11 people.
39 people are already out.
The Bengals in week one and the Ravens in week two were a big reason why.
Yes.
But the only people left, Vince Mero.
Nice.
Vince Morrow has gotten the first two.
Tim Couch.
Hall of Pamer. Slice. Former UK assistant coach Slice is still available. Randall Cobb.
Peter Burns, who nearly died in Missouri choking on a chicken bone.
Would that have eliminated him from the Survivor League?
He would have been out of the surprise.
You're the only one that could make that joke because you worked with Peter.
I love Peter. Did you really just make the joke that would have taken him out of Survivor League?
Well, you have to survive life first.
Wow.
All right, there you go.
Michelle Smallman, from ESPN Radio, who we were with this weekend.
Joe Fortinbaugh, my old co-host.
Dan Orlofsky, my other old co-host.
Dari Noca is still in.
Brandon Walker, that's the Barstool college football guy.
And then the one that really hurts.
Billy R. Sports.
The only person
left from this show that is
not eliminated is Billy.
And
he is going to be smug
about it. I'm at the point
now I'm rooting for any of the
10 people on the list
except Billy R Sports.
He cannot win, Drew.
Billy cannot be the one that wins the Survivor League.
Billy's kind of been on a mission
since being named the ugly duckling of
KSR week ago.
I don't think he was called the ugly.
He just was called the least hands.
It doesn't mean he's ugly.
But I feel like he's been a little bit of a man possessed trying to climb the rain.
He picked on Mario a little bit a few days ago, and now he's the last one standing Survivor League.
I can't have him around.
As a matter of fact, to make sure he doesn't win, I'm taking Billy up for a steak dinner tonight.
Are you really?
Yeah.
It was like Peter Byrd.
Took me a second to get it.
So there you go.
That's 11 people left.
39, including all the rest of us, out after two weeks.
Fun game.
Is it coincidence that our three former players are all live, Orloskey, Cobb, and
couch?
How about Vince Morrow still going?
Vince Meryl.
Also a former player?
The outlier might be Slice.
Slice is the one that's your little, uh, slice every time he sends me one,
also sends me an inspirational message every single time.
So that's very nice.
Who's up next?
Cody.
Cody, how are you, Cody?
I'm good.
How about you, Matt?
Doing good.
I think it's time for you to pony up, don't you?
I don't know what that means.
The bet that I won?
Yeah, Cody, I respectfully, I don't remember.
What are you talking about?
The presidential race.
It's not over.
You said Donald Trump was going to win.
As a matter of fact, as of now, I would say he's not going to win.
I think you're going to owe me.
I don't know.
Okay, but how could you say it's time to pony up?
The election is two months away.
Well, no, you said Joe Biden would win.
Okay, well, then you can cancel the bed if you want, but you don't win.
If you want to say I don't win because Joe Biden's out, I'll respect that.
But you can't say you've won when the election hasn't even happened yet, and your guy might still lose.
Okay, that's fine.
Can I say what?
But what was the argument as to how you thought you would won?
Because Biden dropped out.
But you said Donald Trump will win.
I do think he will win.
Okay, but we will have a result.
Yep, and what too much?
Exactly.
So that's not time to pony up.
Go ahead.
What's your second question?
Well, it's not really a question.
I guess that it could be a question.
Every season I spend between $800 for season tickets.
We had Georgia on the ropes at home.
we was playing with house money at that time and Mark Stoops would not go for it
why don't Mark Stoops grow a set and go for it well there you go I mean I
appreciate the call I don't know if I would use that phrase but I do think he should have
and I think you do it the numbers analytically are clear you go for it but even if they
weren't it's the number one team in the country yep like how many times
you're going to get this chance. As I said over and over, and every one of you out there agree,
if I told you before the game, you get a fourth and eight from midfield, and if you get it,
we beat Georgia. Ryan, we all would have taken it. Everybody takes that. Everybody would have taken it.
We should have taken it. Yeah, you just look at history. They beat Kentucky, what, 14, 15 times in a row,
41 straight regular season wins, only two losses they have since COVID or both the Alabama.
if you've got a chance to knock off a team like that, you have to take it.
You have to have a big play usually to beat a team like that.
That could have been the big play.
Especially after the week before, your back's already against the wall with the egg you laid,
a lot of disappointment in the fan base.
That was your chance to say, all right, let's gamble and see what happens here.
I will say this.
If Biden had stayed in the race, I was going to have to pony up.
Now there's at least a chance that I may not.
But I think my guy was cooked by the end.
Pony up, man.
He was probably done.
All right, we're going to take a break.
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