KSR - 2024-09-17- KSR - Hour 2

Episode Date: September 17, 2024

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Equal Housing Lender, NMLS, Consumer Access, dot org. Welcome to Hour 2 of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now, here's Matt Jones. Welcome back. Hour number two, Kentucky Sports Radio, here at the KS Bar and Grill. Where are you folks from that just walked in here? Goshen, Kentucky. All right. Where is that? Is that northern? Just north of Louisville. That's right. Okay, got you. Kentucky. We've got Princeton, Kentucky. Got the guy who made our banners up here,

our final four banners. Ben from Bowling Green. Ben from Bowling Green. Goshen, Princeton, and Bowling Green. And you can come out to join us here at KS. Bar for lunch. Tomorrow's Wingsday. If you remember, I'm doing my trivia, by the way, not tomorrow, but next Wednesday. Okay.

I decided because I'm a little bit exhausted that I was going to do it next Wednesday. So we've changed the schedule. So get your team for next Wednesday. It gives us another week to get ready. and to go. Before we get back, we got to talk about something your former coach, Drew said. But first, I got to say something about this meeting today, Shannon. Yeah. Don't say it. I don't want to know about it. What do you mean? You're supposed to be on it. But I didn't know about it until just a couple minutes ago.

So I get this. So we have a mandatory company-wide eye-heart meeting, Zoom, that is called how to grow your audience. Mandatory. Do you know how little I want to go to this? We can assume. You don't have to physically go to it. It's on Zoom.

First of all, I might have to tell them I don't have Zoom. Is that your excuse? Can I say that? I don't have to. I don't have Zip. Why do we have to go to this? First of all, there are many things you could say about this show, but the last thing I need is someone in L.A. to tell me how to grow my audience.

Like, for real. I can, I don't say this to be rude, but let's go see what that person's audience is. How many followers you got, buddy? How many, how many social media followers you have? How many people were at your remote on Friday after the worst loss in Stoop's history? How many of your, like, how many people came up in Green Bay from another state. Like, do you know how little I want to go to this? We guessed when we saw the email that you were going to be on the low end of interest. Plot twist. Matt Jones is actually hosting it.

He just doesn't know it. I'm not hosting it. I just, I've never understood the idea. I said this one day to someone in the company that's not with the company anymore. They were saying to me, we need to talk about how to substantially engage. with your audience. And I was like, no, we don't. I said, I know I can do it better than you can.

You don't even have a show. That was always my thing with program directors. We used to have to go in and do air checks and analyze everything. And I'm going like, well, do you know how to talk on the radio better than I do? Why don't you have a bigger show than me? Look, I get it. If no one is listening to your show, I get it. Like, help them.

I'm fine with that. But, you know, there's somebody in a suit. When I first started at ESPN, they would do it. And finally, I said to my boss at ESPN, who I like, he was in Green Bay with this. I can't do this anymore. I was like, you don't host a show. So, you know, I don't mean this to be rude, but no. You don't take golf lessons for someone who doesn't golf.

That's exactly right. Okay, I'll tell you what. If Tiger Woods or John Rom wants to give me a golf lesson, I'll listen. But if you're John Rom and then I come and try to give you a lesson, come on. So you all are yeses or no? I'm going to have my camera on. I'm going to have my tie on. I'm going to be ready to go.

I've said for many years the bane of our existence in this business are consultants. They try to tell us how to do our show from California. And they don't know, have any idea how to do show in Kentucky. Look at you hate in California. All right. Let me read you what your former coach, Drew, John Calgary said. I had a feeling that's the coach you were going for. John Calgary was apparently giving, and he does this.

This is to his credit. He does, he did this in Kentucky. He does it. He brings high school coaches in the state who want to come kind of learn how to coach. He has like a seminar, and that's really good of him. It is really good. It is really good. He did that in Kentucky for many years.

and then he's doing it in Arkansas, so I give him credit for that. He said, quote, well, this isn't quote. This is Kevin McPherson of R-Hoop scoop. That's the name of the site. R-R-R-A-R, not just like, R-Hoop scoop. Like a pirate. Yeah, a pirate basketball reporter. Ar! Hoop scoop.

He says, John Calipari has said the analytics era that embraces threes and layups while poo-pooing mid-range is faulty logic. When asked why, he pointed to, I have 30 former players with Max MBA contracts as proof that having the middle game matters. Thoughts. That's why if he had stayed here, we would get a lot of the same.

It had been a lot of the same. And yeah, those guys are making max contracts, but the game has changed. It changes, it involves all the time. You have to stay up with, keep up with it. And up to this point, I thought he was really good at doing that. And that two-sentence period is exactly why it wasn't going to work. Because if we're going to talk faulty logic, that is the faultiest logic.

Absolutely. The faultiest logic you can make in life is, I've had success. So as time changes, it's still going to continue. The faultiest logic is, I have VCR tapes, they work, I don't need streaming. That's why you got to go to a meeting about expanding your brand. All right. Touche.

Chet. Couch, Shannon. But I don't think this person's going to be saying that. But I'm serious about that. Also, he makes a logical leap that isn't true. He says, I have 30 guys with Max NBA contracts. True. And do I think he deserves credit for those?

I do. Yes, I do. People who don't give him credit and say, well, they were good when they got here. That's not fair. But I will say this. I think one of the things we've learned is having 30 NBA contracts does not mean you're going to win in college basketball. Right? That correlation.

He thinks because a guy gets to the NBA, he's going to win a college basketball title. And we have learned that that is not the same. And I'll also note, who are his best players in the NBA right now? Okay. Anthony Davis, who's a superstar, but it's not because of mid-range jumpers, right? Devin Booker, who's a superstar, but he shoots a lot of threes. Tyrese Maxie, superstar, threes. Carl Towns, superstar, won the NBA three-point contest and did not show.

shoot any threes here. Tyler Hero. All these dudes found their mojo in the NBA. Almost every guy just mentioned is better in the NBA than he was when he was here. I mean, how many Cal players, let's be honest, were at the top of college basketball when they were here? All right, John Wall was. DeMarcus was. Anthony Davis has been good, really, really, really.

really good at both. Booker's a better NBA player than he was a college player. Shea is a better NBA player than he was a college player. Maxie is a better NBA player than he was a college player. Even Carl is a better NBA player than he was a college player. Hero. So he's right that those guys all can make mid-range shots, but that's not why they're good. They're good because they can get to the rim and shoot threes, which guess what is

modern basketball, right? And that sentence where he basically says, analytics is faulty because I have guys in the NBA is a good recipe to lose to Oakland and St. Peters Drew again. Yeah, and the whole bring up your NBA players, those don't even correlate. Like, they're not taking mid-range. I mean, you've got a couple guys that can make them.

But PJ Washington, once he's taking like five or six threes a game, the guys are going to be, he's a great player. They're going to NBA and spacing out. Because he shoots threes. Yeah, so, I mean, clearly disagree with this point. Like, most people do. Spacing and basketball is the way to go. But just bringing up your NBA contracts kind of has nothing to do with that and didn't really prove the point for me at all.

I mean, if the question is, can John Caliperi produce NBA players? There's a strong argument. There's never been a coach in the history of college basketball who's been better at it than that. Maybe John Wooden and Mike Shashefsky. but John Wooden and Mike Shoshchewski have something he didn't, which is how much they won in college, right? And don't get me wrong. Cal won a lot.

But he thinks that correlation is one to one, and it's not. And because he's not going to change that, it's going to be more of the same. Yep. I mean, it's going to be more of the same. Now, that doesn't mean he's going to lose to Oakland or St. Peters, but he will never take last year's team. Last year's team was the most efficient team.

he's ever put. And he had three of the most efficient players to ever play at the school. Rod, Reed Shepard, Antonio Rebes, and Rob Dillingham. In 50 years, there's going to be a version of me doing this show that's going to look back historically and goes, man, that 2024 team had three of the six best three-point shooters in history on the team. Is this right? Is this right, Grandpa? They lost to Oakland? How did that happen? Did the team all get sick that day? They're going to answer, wait a minute, they were the 34th lineup he played the most? What? That's what's going to happen.

Yeah. Makes me even feel a little sad for Big Z, a guy that probably could excel in a different, you know, set up, different offense. He's going to get stuck trying to shoot mid-rany jumpers. Well, think about this. Let's use Oscar. Oscar developed an amazing mid-rate. I mean, if you go back and look. Look, Oscar shot a pretty amazing percentage on free throw line jumpers.

How many NCAA tournament games did he win? One. How many SEC titles did he win? Zero. Zero. How's he doing in the NBA? That game, Oscar's 20 years too late. If Oscar played 20 years before, different situation.

But Oscar is a perfect example of Oscar is about as good as you can be playing a that you cannot win with anymore. Right? He is the best at that style, but that style does not Drew win you college basketball games anymore. Or I would argue NBA basketball games. Not many back to the basket centers

doing a lot these days. And I think about you just mentioned feeling bad for Big Z. If he really makes him step inside the three-point line and take long twos, I would feel so bad for that guy. His NBA scouting report says three-point shooter. But you know he will. But you know he will. Part of me is a little sad.

You know, I wanted Cal gone. That was very clear. But part of me is sad that this is how Cal's career is ending. You know, I was a huge fan of Cal at Kentucky, like everyone listening was. And it's kind of, he was in front of things. People were yelling, don't do the one and done. He won with it. He kind of came up with some concepts that were new to college basketball.

He was the first doing things like pro days. Always this idea guy. Now it's kind of like. And this is what's going to happen. in seven years. Reed Shepherd and Rob Dillingham are going to be really good NBA players. And people are going to go, they didn't start in college? They're already doing that.

That's what's going to happen. And Antonio Reeves is going to be a seventh man on an NBA finals team, and people are going to go, he lost to Oakland? I mean, I mean, like that's going to happen. Aren't there some Arkansas people like saying, hey, man, Cal said this the last couple years that kept saying his teams were built for March. and then they fail in March. Why do we think this is going to work here?

Well, I mean, have you seen there was headlines this weekend, Rocket's mini camp, Reed Shepard's teammates giving Steph Curry comparisons? Listen, I'm going to be pulling for Reed like he's my family, but it is going to drive me crazy when he ends up being a great NBA play. Sorry, raving about him in camp. Rob is going to do it too. It's going to happen. Kick off the savings at Don Franklin's family of dealerships.

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of IHart Women's Sports. Welcome back. That's right, Shaden. Yeah, this is Kanye. Yeah, don't compare me to Kanye, please. No, I'm not. I'm just saying it's This is Kentucky Sports Radio. 859-280-2287. Some breaking news here on three sports reporting Tennessee is going to add a 10% fee to their ticket prices for football and basketball, a 10% quote, talent fee to raise money to give to their players.

Talent fee. Wow. Talent fee. The thing is, they're, I mean, it sounds weird, but it's actually kind of smart. See, I keep thinking that's another good idea. Tennessee is at, Tennessee is at. the forefront of having good ideas. They are. They just are. I mean, you got to give them a lot of credit. And this is the part where I look at somebody like Mitch Barnhart and say, man, you got to

like, you got to decide, do you want to embrace this stuff or not? Now, I'm not saying I want them to raise ticket prices by 10% to Kentucky. I actually think a lot of fans would not be happy with that. But it is a creative thing to do that will probably drew pay dividends, honestly. I see a reply to the story. It says, so do we get a discount on UK football season tickets? Yeah. No. We're not doing that.

But here's the thing about doing that, though. You lose. People are like, what am I paying for? True. I don't like to admit how good Tennessee's been in NIL. They were first, even though it looked like cheating, they just did a collective and said deal with it. Yep. And they landed all these great players.

They pushed the envelope and it worked. When they made the World Series, they had NIL where you would pay $10 for a jello shot. You didn't even have to be there, but five would go straight to a player and five would buy a jello shot for a fan that was in Omaha. And people bought into that. They keep coming up. putting in that park that are connecting the two stadiums, a lot of that's NIL-based? No, they've been really, they've been really far ahead. It's not a compliment. I don't like it. Who's up next? Let's go to Jerry. Jerry, how are you, Jerry?

Hey, Matt, I just want to say, first off, a little bit, I think, I think maybe we're looking at having a lot better season as long as they play like he did against Georgia. But as far as what Steve did at the end of the game, that's one of those deals where he'd gotten criticized it away. I don't think he would have, Jerry. Jerry, I think if he had gone for it, I think if he had gone for it, you would have heard very, very few fans say criticizing. I don't. Oh, come on, man.

If they hadn't got in the first down and the defense stopped Georgia with those timeouts, instead of being at the 30 or whatever, they're at the 5 or the 10, and they run out the clock at the 50 because they had to drop. We ran off the clock at the 50 anyway. I'm just saying, Matt, you'd have been criticizing me.

I would get, first of all, go look at my Twitter account. The moment they pun it, I criticized it. You cannot say that I would have, I said, go look at my Twitter account. The moment he did it, I said, you've got to go for this. And then 20 seconds later, I wrote, I hate, hate, hate, punting in this situation. So you can, you may, you are. I'm sure right, there might have been some fans criticizing it. You are not right, Jerry, that I would have criticized it.

I wrote at the moment that you got to go for. Well, Matt, we'll disagree, disagree. As far as the intersection goes. Wait on just a second, Jerry. You can't agree to disagree with what I would have felt. I wrote it in the moment. All right. But Matt, I'm just saying that with four timeouts,

they had four timeouts would be different. I guess the number one defense of the country. I can see why he did it. But as far as the reception goes... That's fine. But I would make a bet, and again, we'll never know this, that if you did a fan poll at that moment, I would bet you the majority of fans would have said go.

Do you all agree? Yes. And I think that those same fans, if he had done the other, he doesn't get criticized either way. But as far as the interception goes, I appreciate football too, and I agree with it.

other officials said. And the thing that bugs me about SEC officiating has been this way for years. When you're playing a top 10 Georgia, Alabama, Florida football team in the SEC, you're up against the officials. Okay, but do you, all right, let me, I hate when people say that, because Jerry, I've heard you over the years, you think our basketball team gets screwed by officials. If the SEC wants to, if the SEC is trying to benefit Georgia, Alabama and football,

do you think they do the same thing for us? in basketball? Well, I don't know, but the point I'm driving at, Matt. No, but you're skipping over. I'm asking you a question. Don't, if you think they try to benefit the top programs in football, do you think they do it in basketball? You're going to say no.

I'm not saying, hang on, I'm not saying there is some kind of insider conspiracy to what I'm saying is the way they select and run their officiating programs, is it's always been a good So do they do it for basketball? I don't know that. I've never crossed that. I'm not one that calls in a lot about basketball, Matt. You've got to confuse somebody else.

I hate the mentality of everyone's always out to get us because we take the view, a lot of our fans, that the SEC favors the best teams in football. And maybe they do. I don't know. But then when it comes to us in basketball, we say, they hate Kentucky and basketball.

That's not, that's inconsistent. If they favor the best teams, we should get all the basketball calls. Well, here's what I'm driving at, is that I wish the NCAA, since we're making all these changes, get away from conference-based officiating and go with a national group of professionally paid officials for football. All right. Well, maybe so. I appreciate the call.

The problem for professionally paid officials is they work 15 days a year. And I think it would be hard to justify. you know, paying someone full-time for 15 days a year. I think there's a lot of people that think in basketball that Kentucky gets the shaft sometimes. But in football, where the underdog, we should get maybe favorable calls. I think it's what some people are trying to say. No, I mean, there's people who sort of believe that we get screwed no matter what, and I just don't believe that.

I mean, the interception call, that caller earlier, he gave a good argument. I still disagree with him, but it's reasonable. but it's a reasonable disagreement. It is not the case that the referee set there and go, it was the second quarter. How can we make sure Georgia wins, right? Yeah, that's part of being a fan. Your team is always the one on the wrong end,

no matter what. You're loyal and not always seeing through the right colors. You're seeing it through blue, and in most cases, we're going to think we're getting screwed. Yeah. Who's up next? Tea. T.

By the way, I guarantee you I was mad at the moment. I was more mad we punted in the, the moment than I was after the game because you know I grew a lot like you at that moment T go ahead hey Matt I had to address the John Calipari thing first I have another comment but if you read a john C Maxwell leadership book john california did everything opposite of what a good leader would do create an echo chamber of yes men he would not take any criticism it's just not changed with the times. I mean, it's, it's kind of sad to hear him still take this position, even though he's gotten a new lease, you know, at the end of his career. It is to me, too, because, you know,

we always use the example of Sabin, but Sabin hated to his core switching to the Lane Kiffin style offense, but he went and did it because he knew he needed to do it. You know, think about what, think about how ridiculous we think Davo sounds. When Daubo comes out there and goes, I'm not taking any transfers. To me, some of the analytic stuff, Cal says sounds like dabbo just about style of play. Exactly. Okay.

And then I'm going to say one thing, and it's not going to be bad about Drew because I need Drew in my corner on this one. You said something interesting a couple weeks ago that's been stuck in my crawl. And it's Bourbon and Beyond Week. And you said that Zach Bryan was too much a bro country. And I just have to counter that. You've got to listen to more his music, man.

Yeah. I didn't say he was too much of bro country. I said he was a little more bro country than like Tyler, but I don't dislike him. I think he's fine. T.J. Smith, personal injury attorney. Call T.J. He'll make them pay. Now, more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage.

Here's Matt Jones. Welcome back, Techie Sports Radio. Before we get back to phones, the Emmys were Sunday night. Let's see the shows that won big. Let's see which ones of these have you watched. There were four shows that won big. first of all the bear have you seen the bear that's the one about the cooking yes i love the bear yes yes yes i'm in i love it not a comedy though now season three i was kind of disappointed i thought

see see i'm you and i thought season three i thought season three stunk yeah i did and i really love one and two me too season three was a huge down way too slow way too slow you know the bear i don't he's got the point where i don't even like him you don't like the bear no i mean he just in season three he's so he's just such a downer We've not talked about this. I bet you really don't like the Fats Brothers. I can't stand those dudes. I knew it. Those dudes, they were on way too much.

And you know, I like John Cena. But the episode with John Cena, I was in Europe, and I was like about to just go out and street and start throwing stuff. That episode was awful. They used, I guess they put those guys in to try to make it be justified as a comedy, but they're not funny at all. I cannot stand those brothers. I don't say that.

And they were in way too much. Way too much. And they're not funny. Yeah. But, again, it's still a good show. It is a good show. All right. Second, baby reindeer.

It's all that. That's the crazy. Stalker lady. Did you like that? I liked it. Yeah. It won a lot. Very uncomfortable watching it, though.

Showgun. It's on my list. I've heard very good things. Obviously, if you're winning an Emmy, you're good. But I won a lot. It won a lot. It won best drama. And it's supposed to be really good.

I haven't seen it. And then finally, I was so happy. happy to see my show. The show, I think, is amazing. Hacks win. Hacks won best comedy. Love that show. Yeah, you were talking about it yesterday. I've been a huge fan of that show. So those were the four that won the most. But I'm with you on season three, the bear. Hugely disappointed. I was too. I hope the White Lotus season three doesn't do that to me. I wouldn't do that. When you say it's coming out? I think it's like January. And it's got baby Billy Billy in it. He's good in everything he is. Yeah. So 859, 280, 2027. Who's up next?

Oh, before we do Chris, real quick, one person writes, Matt, when Caliper was here, you said he was a great coach. Now that he's left, everything he did was stupid. No, everything he did did, it wasn't stupid. He was a great coach. He's the best, he's the best recruiter in the history of college basketball. He's one of the great motivators in the history of college basketball. To get all these great players to come together and to play together, that's a really, really special talent. and I think he's a better

he was a better coach than people gave him credit for but as he got older I started to realize I think a lot of that was because he surrounded himself with a really good staff that was able to fill in the things that maybe weren't his strength and then he became so stubborn in the end he lost all those guys and he lost his

and he became around a group of yes men and, you know, that's just a fact. He lost John Robic, but I also think it's very important to understand Orlando Antigua didn't go. You know, Orlando Antigua didn't go. That says something to me. John Welch didn't go. John Welch left even before he went to Arkansas. He left before Cal left.

I mean, there's a, you know, he became, he lost part of what made him great. And the most talented people in the world have weaknesses. That's part of life. Like you know this, Ryan. My weakness is I don't like to deal with details when it comes to money. So hubby is that guy. If hubby ever left, I would be worse at everything I did because he picks up my weaknesses. John Robic picked up Cow's weaknesses.

Cow's not a game plan X and O. You know, it's not his focus. Robic did that. You know, Cal wasn't the best at interacting with guys off the court. Sometimes he could be a little hard on him. Kenny was really good at that. Like he had these, cows not good at dealing with bosses. Dwayne Peevy was good with that.

And so when he lost those guys, Ryan, he just never was able to fill those voids. And for whatever reason, the longer we'd stayed here, it seemed like the worst he got in those areas. Yes. So, all right, go ahead. Chris, that's still you. Chris, go ahead. Sorry. Hey, no, thanks for the vine.

Hey, I'm curious. And maybe you can help talk a little bit more about this. but I heard on the show earlier today that Stoops had commented about his offense that it wasn't really built for, you know, I guess a more prolific or high-opt-time opportunity in the Georgia game. And what I'm curious about is when I've heard we have a five-star QB, we have professionals or prospects in the wide receiver room. When would it not be built for high?

I think they wanted it to be, to be honest with you. and I think they just, the offensive line has not allowed them to be what they hoped in the P and pass protection. I think they brought him back in the group and you had those wide receivers because he hoped to have a more high octane offense, but it became very clear in that South Carolina game. They don't have the offensive line to do that. Okay. All right. At least that's my read on it.

That's my reading. Okay. Well, because I was I was just curious and kind of taken aback when I hear a comment like that that, does he have? have the recognition of the talent or does he have faith in the offensive scheme to be able to put his faith in something like that versus hunting and I'm going to guess and this is just a guess and I appreciate the call I'm going to guess there's probably three million dollars of NIL that has been put in the quarterback wide receiver maybe include the tight end position you don't do that unless you want to get the ball down the field.

But I just don't think, Ryan, they don't have the offensive line. And I think you have an offensive line built for Stoops kind of old school football, and you have talent position players built for a style of football that the offensive line can't do. I think going in, like you said, they thought they had that with the offensive line. I mean, Marcus Cox is a seven-year guy. Eli Cox is a six-year guy. Jagger's his third year. Farmer started at what, Florida and Tennessee.

So, I mean, they've got the guys there on the line with a lot of experience. For whatever reason, they've just been able to succeed on the field yet. Yeah, we saw in the last two games. I mean, they might have ideas of having an explosive passing attack, and I think they have the targets to go to, but through those two games, Vandigriff does just not have time. That play we talked about yesterday where it was there, I mean, I like that they, I mean, I don't like to wish they'd run it, but we just,

Cox missing that block just showed they did not have enough time to run, a simple route that would have been open. Somebody pointed out to me, you know, we talked about the second down play. Somebody pointed out to me, go look at the third down play. Guy was open in that one too. And in that one, Brock, Brock waited a second. He had the time, but he kind of hitched it. And then when he threw it, didn't work.

Man, either one of those. Either one of those. And now you're fourth and short. No, no. Those were first. They were first down. The second one might have been a touchdown. The second one might have been a touchdown.

The third one is probably makes it fourth and one. which point you're definitely going for it. There would have been no. But second down, Drew's right. That would have been a touchdown if he had been able to complete that. They just haven't had the time in the last two games for Vandergriff to do anything downfield. Who's next? Andrew. Andrew. Go ahead, Andrew. Hey, Matt. You know, I really like Mark Stoop. I think he's probably the best coach Kentucky's ever had. But there's a part of me that just, I love Hal Mummy. And I just wish Mark Stubb had some Howmummy in him. He coached that Georgia game. Like, we had just,

just beating South Carolina and he was going for a playoff first. And after the South Carolina lost, like, there's just gun-sling it, man. Like, Kentucky fans will forgive you. But see, I'm actually okay. I would disagree with you on. I'm okay with how Mark Stoops coach that game, the vast majority of the game. I think if he had come out and tried to gun-sling it, we might have lost by 40. I think- Well, I guess I just get to say, like, go back to the punt decision specifically.

Like, just go for it. Like, Kentucky fans will forgive a football team for being aggressive. I personally think that in the playoff era, like, if you win nine regular season games and have a chance to win 10 in the bowl game, like you're competing for a playoff. But for me personally, whether you win six, seven or eight, it's all the same. You're going to a mediocre bowl game or whatever. So, like, let's be exciting if we're going to lose some games. Well, I think there's a lot of people. I appreciate the call who think that.

I think Mark Stoops believes the program is better than having to just be exciting to get people in it. And to be fair to him, that's been true a lot of these years, the last few years. How Mommy would have let Georgia score when they got the ball back? Well, that's an interesting question. Do you let them score? I actually think you should have let him score. Now, you've got to be pretty, you've got to be pretty ballsy to let them score. Yeah.

But there's an argument you let him score. Up one. Mummy did it. Yeah, he did. Mummy had a game. I think it was the bowl game, the Music City Bowl against Syracuse. We were down one with like a minute and a half. half left and he let him score and we got the ball and had a chance to go down there and tie the

game. So I do think there's an argument, but you would, Mark's not aggressive enough to go forward on fourth. He ain't letting him score. But how Mummy would have left him score, I think that's probably true. Yeah, I mean, mathematically, that might have been something to do. It seems crazy. I don't think most coaches would do it, but I mean, if you're just looking at it truly the analytics and numbers, getting the ball back with more time on the clock trying to get a touchdown. I think after they recovered that fumble, I'd have let them score. I mean, I would have probably said, you know what? At least you guarantee you get the ball back.

You get the ball back and you got a chance, right? And so. He likes defense way too much to give anyone free points. I think you're exactly right. And let me give one compliment to Mark Stoops. What I said a minute ago about Cal, Stoops is actually really good at understanding and identifying his weaknesses and filling in the gaps.

Okay? He is good about that. Now, we can talk about does he really let his offensive coordinator do their thing? I think that's a fair question, especially after Liam Cohen had another great name this week. But Mark is not a detail guy. He is surrounded by details. Okay? He knows.

You know, he and Vince are great friends. They also fight, okay? Like great friends. But Vince will be here as long as he wants because he knows he needs. Vince to do that. Mark is really good about understanding this is not my strength. I'm giving it to them. And Mark's strength is, and Max will tell you this, he's a great, the players love it. He's a great motivator. He's great at big picture stuff. Max said before the Georgia game, I said it on the air, right? He goes, I wish I was in that locker room to hear what he says

because this is Mark Stoops at his best in days like this. He said one game a year, he'll break the whiteboard before the game before he goes out. Yeah, he's like this might be the one. This might be the whiteboard game. And so the sort of criticism I have of Cal about not knowing his weaknesses, I actually think Drew Mark's really good at that. Yeah, and I don't know if it works out, but another example of that, you know, Eric Wilford really did him wrong for him to put that aside because he believes he's a good coach.

Yeah, through three weeks, we'll see. But just being able to rehire that guy, if he truly thought he was the best man for the job, to put that aside, shows he's looking out for the team first. That's a very good point. few people would get burned by somebody and then go, you know what, we're going to try it again. He did that. And I think that's, I do think that's admirable. You can, if you need a touchdown or a tutty. Since we started calling them tutties, we've not scored one, I don't think. That's a good point. My new thing is one touchdown player in every game, ridiculous parley. No, they're not hitting, but it's

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Yeah, we got a little, we just looked it up, Grant Holmes versus Brandon Williamson. Brandon Williamson's was really good last year And then he was hurt some of this year Who is Grant Holmes He's one of the band aids we are putting on our roster Exactly It seems like every time the brave sign someone to replace someone's injured That person gets injured

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Russell County Deputy Sheriff Josh Phipps was killed last night by in a confrontation with a suspect. I got a lot of messages last night from people that lived there. who talked about, you know, what he meant to the community, and I'm sure more will come out today. But our prayers to the people there and to his family, you know, we often talk about issues where there are problems with something that happens with an officer or whatever, but then we also always should remember things like this, which is that they put their lives on the line.

And unfortunately, a very tragic situation in Russell's. Springs, Kentucky, where we've been many times. Very sad when you hear something like that. You're right, because these guys, they walk out the door, kissed their wife. They don't know if they're coming home sometimes. 5.30 in the afternoon. Wow. It's 5.30 in the afternoon.

So prayers out to everyone there in Russell Springs and to his family and friends. Who's up next? Bus driver. Bus driver. How are you? I'm good. Good morning, guys. Good morning.

I got a question to talk about the, nobody's mentioned it last couple days. Kentucky had the ball at the end of the game there, very, very end. Why didn't they throw to the end zone a couple times? I know they didn't have no time out. You know, I don't know if he has the arm strength, actually, to throw it 70 yards. I'm not sure. I have to assume he didn't or they would have done it at least once. I just wonder, you know, 70 yards, a long time to throw, a long way to throw it.

He may just not have had the arm strength. Yes, sir, I was just wondering about that. Okay. Yeah, we also don't have. My name is a guy. Go ahead. What's that? Go ahead.

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I was going to say we don't have a ton of tall guys, but Dane's tall. I mean, I guess if you were going to do it, Dane would be the one you would throw to it. See, I wish they would do that. We talked about yesterday, even just potentially get a P.I. You know, now you're still your drives alive. You've got a first down. But I think he's talking about it on like the last place. Really don't have time to protect Vannegriff for anyone to get that far.

That's it. I don't know if he's got enough time to drop back and heave it that far. That's actually a good point. They tried the hook and ladder, hook and lateral, whichever you prefer. Yeah. I think it was a tight end, maybe dingle. The moment he caught it just got pulled down, but that looked like what they were going for. I think they were at, well, Bariam was coming around.

I think George is sniffed it out pretty easily. They get a hook and then a ladder. Yeah. But like what people think it's ladder like a thing you climb. Uh-huh. Isn't it a he runs a hook and a lateral? Latterol. But they call it a hook and ladder.

Uh-huh. Am I right? You described it very well. I believe one of the original coaches came out was like there's not a lateral or there's not a ladder. So we're calling it lateral. But I hear both. Yeah. I think it's people say ladder, but it seems like it probably should be.

We only had the hook, whatever you want to go. Yeah. Whatever it was, it didn't work. Let me ask you, do you expect a good performance Saturday against the Ohio Bob cads? I think this not only of the fan base re-energized, I hope that locker room is re-energized because they came out with a lot of

fight against Georgia, a lot of fight. It's something was missing against South Carolina. So I hope they continue to bring that against Ohio. I don't care at just Ohio University. That's still a good football team. Mac football's pretty good. They've won a couple bowl games lately in recent years. You still got to bring it. Yeah, I mean, I think the defense

is going to show up. You play Georgia like that. I think they're going to be great against Ohio. But I need that offense to really make a statement. I need like high 30s, 40s, need to really put up points to show they can do something. You get a little bit of a built-in excuse playing number one, Georgia. And I guess we'll talk about how good South Carolina's defensive line was, but you don't get that excuse against Ohio.

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I think when, I don't think he, I think he's more shot. Just rank unfriendliest at the top, then Billy would be number one. Just flip it and then do that. Well, I'm turning into the Joker after today. You know what he is? I'm going full villain. He needs cornbread hemp. He needs cornbread hemp.

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