KSR - 2024-09-26- KSR - Hour 2
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Welcome back. Hour number two, Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280, 2287 here at KS Bar.
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A couple things.
First of all, you know one of my pet peeves.
Yes.
My pet peeve is we do a contest and somebody wins tickets,
and then they come back and say,
sorry, I can't use them.
Uh-oh.
Why'd you play in the contest?
Our guy?
I mean, I'm sure he was a nice guy,
but like now we did the kind of the other five people i'm sure would have liked to have used it yes so now
i'm stuck with these three four day larger than life uh blower bands yeah so here's what i'm
going to do i'm here at the bar in lexington first person to come up that will use them i have three
bands for you so the first person to come to ks bar that would use them and when i mean use them
you can't sell them i have a way of checking don't you were
but i'm going to be at the bar i see it the problem is because we that he waited to tell us this
morning i don't have a chance to transport them to lulville yeah so it will have to be in lexington
if you come to the bar these are three these are all four days shananan and you can see you can
meddle it out all four days over 130 bands are going to be there it's going to be a lot of fun i have
three in here
The other thing, if you just have one, if you don't have any friends,
it's okay that you don't have any friends, but don't take three if you don't have one, right?
They're going to sit here, and the first person that comes that wants them,
normally if it's tickets, I give them away quick.
This is different.
I mean, sir, I'll give them to you, but will you use them?
You promise you'll use them.
All three?
Just two.
Well, no, I can't.
They're three.
Who are you going to use them with?
You and your cousin.
All right, you can take a friend.
Now they're over.
He was already in here, eating.
He's in from Arizona.
He's in from Arizona.
Do you like metal?
Okay.
You don't look like a metal head to me, but you're a metal head.
You're all kinds of things.
All right, well, now they're gone.
So there you go.
His slip-knock mask is in his car.
All right.
I have to tell you, I wouldn't have guessed him as a metal head.
No.
So the contest is over within seconds.
I hope you're excited.
You know that's four days of meddling.
he's got him okay dude those are expensive i mean that's a nice prize you just gave away so our guy chris kell is going to be playing tonight and five finger death punch
oh they play tonight five finger death punch yeah were they on the the thing yeah oh they need a bigger font yeah
they should have been the top band play an hour in 10 minutes they're one of the main bands all right so there you go
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You told me the mayor, Craig Greenberg says he's going to slam a guitar.
It's the christening of the stage at 610 tonight.
Mayor Craig Greenberg is going to get up on stage and smash a guitar and a bottle of bourbon.
I hope the bottle's not full.
I hope it's an empty bottle, but he's going to smash a guitar.
That's crazy to me that he's going to do that.
Craig is the dorkiest person, I know.
I know.
It's going to be awesome, isn't it?
I mean, I love Craig, but he is a huge dork, and he's going to smash a guitar.
Yeah.
I want to be up on stage to get videos.
Take a picture of the video of that.
I got to see that.
I mean, again, I love Craig, and I think he's doing a good job as mayor,
but he's the dorkiest person I've ever been friends with.
Dorks can smash guitars?
Can they?
Do dorks smash guitars?
I just hope he swings hard enough to get it on the first swing.
What if it doesn't smash?
Because you don't want to bounce back up and hit you in the face.
That would be bad.
All right.
Yeah, please work with him, Shannon.
He's going to hurt himself if you're not.
Part of me is secretly hoping he swings and it doesn't break.
swings again doesn't break.
It means like three or four times that it doesn't break.
I love Craig, but this is not what he's good at.
He's like a numbers guy.
He's like an accountant type.
He does not break guitars.
He needs one of those Jeff Jared guitars that explode.
Craig is the kind of guy.
If he was in the hay contest, I would have picked Billy over him.
Oh, wow.
I would have picked the hay.
All right.
Well, let me know how it goes, shit.
I will.
All right.
So yesterday, when I was on the show, I said that,
I wanted to have a documentary about the day that they hired Mark Pope.
And one of the things that we talked about was, you know, I got the phone call probably 10 o'clock that night, maybe 9.45, that it was going to be Mark Pope.
And I had thought at 4 or 5 p.m. it was going to be someone else.
And people last night when I was here for trivia, all they wanted to do was ask me, who did you think it was?
and I didn't answer anyone, but I thought about it,
and I felt like I had said that before,
but I guess I hadn't tried.
I don't know if you've stared on the show.
You've told us, but I don't know if you said it on the show.
So I felt like I would just go ahead and say it.
So you got to go back through the process of the hire.
They get the no from Scott Drew, let's say, what was it,
Tuesday afternoon, or maybe Monday afternoon.
And then they go, and a group of people, I think, go to try to talk to Danny Hurley.
I don't think they ended up talking to him.
I think they maybe talked to his agent.
But there was a conversation there with Danny Hurley.
And then all of a sudden the search widens.
And I believe now, after all this time, that really there were six names.
They had already been told no by Nate Oates, but they were going to kind of try again, right?
Sean Miller, Bruce Pearl.
Who's the other one I'm thinking of?
Will, not Will Wade.
Chris Beard.
Yes.
Chris Beard, Mark Pope and Shaka Smart.
And then early in the afternoon on that Thursday,
I cannot say for certain that this is what UK thought,
but I think there were a lot of people around kind of leaning
towards that they thought one person was maybe going to be the initial target.
And then I was told that the higher-ups at UK, and I don't know if this means Eli Capiludo
himself or the board or whoever, but basically four names were taken off the list collectively.
They were kind of told Nate Oates, Chris Beard, Sean Miller, and Bruce Pearl could not be the higher,
which really at that point left Mark Pope and Shaka-A-Sah.
smart and then maybe expanding the pool of candidates if you wanted to at that point i think
mitch had talked to both of them and was comfortable offering mark pope but before those four
candidates were were taken off ryan they had talked some with oats early in the process but i got a
phone call let's say three four o'clock that day saying i think there's a good chance bruce pearl
could be the coach here.
And I was sort of trying to think in my mind,
well, what does that look like if it is?
And then I think very soon after that was said
was when he was taken off the list along with those others,
and it coalesced around Pope.
I say all that to say.
At the time, I admit, I was a little disappointed
because I thought Bruce Pearl here could kill it.
Now you fast forward four or five months,
and I actually think it's the right call in hindsight.
I think we'll see if Mark Pope has that level of success.
We'll see.
But I think a lot of what's happened with Pearl,
how he's kind of, in my view,
Pearl's sort of outspoken nature here recently,
especially on Israel and Palestine,
but some of it's going into politics.
I think it's in part like he just kind of knows
that Auburn's my last job now.
so I'm going to do what I want.
I don't know that he could have done all that stuff here, to be quite frank with you,
but I actually think Mark Pope, now that I've watched him for four or five months,
was the right hire.
What do you think with those names?
I mean, you knew this that I'm talking about, but what do you think?
Yeah, I think those are reports that the directive came down from up top,
removed these guys from the list, and for Bruce Pearl,
I mean, he has all those intangibles that you have, in addition to being a basketball coach,
all the other intangibles to sit in that chair, you know, meeting with the boosters,
you mean with the fan base, connecting with the fan base and things like that.
But now, Mark Pope has proven he also has those intangibles.
That's exactly right.
All the things about Pearl off the court that I thought would be good for the job,
it looks like that Mark Pope has that too, Drew.
So now the question is going to be, can he be as good on the court?
We don't know that answer yet.
But I've thought a big reason why Pearl would work is he would reignite this fan base.
And Pope now has done that as well.
Oh, yeah.
Pope's done it more than anyone could have because you just can't have that connection that Pope has,
riding the bus in, bringing all the former players.
Nobody could have done that.
That Sunday and Ruppereen, if it had been Bruce Pearl,
there would have been 800 to 1,000 people there.
You just can't recreate what they have with Pope.
And today on September 26th, I don't think anyone could have done as good a job.
Bob is Pope to this point. He's got to win games. That's the biggest thing. But he got the two
in state recruits already. He built about as good of a team as I think you can build in that
short window. I mean, there weren't that many players available at that time. And I think the
roster he had is pretty dang good, all things considered. So even though I was on Team Pearl,
I've said this before, I actually wrote a list for the website. I had Pope rank 10th. He was 10th on
my list. I had several people I wanted before him. Now that we've lived four months of it,
I can't imagine anyone else being in this spot. I totally agree with you on that. I would, I
I now think, you're right.
I think they'd have had more than 1,000 people.
But that place would not have been full for Bruce Pearl.
Not like it was for Mark Pope.
Not like it was for Mark Pope.
They might not even have attempted it, actually.
It had to be Mark Pope, right, to get that reaction.
And again, he still has to win games.
But I do think my initial reaction on that Thursday night,
which was, I think this is a bad decision,
I think was an incorrect reaction.
And, you know, we'll see how it plays out.
But in hindsight, I think it took some guts for Mitch to pull that, you know.
Now, if you tell me his two choices are Mark Pope and Chaka Smart.
I don't, then I think that's an obvious right choice.
I was going Pope on that one for sure.
Yeah, me too.
But, like, you know, in the moment, I didn't know that those four names had been pulled.
You know, we didn't know that yet.
We found that out later on.
You know, and like you said, five months later after the fact,
look how things have changed in Bruce Pearl's world.
I don't know if that would work here at Kentucky if he was the guy and the things he's doing now, you know?
It's worth remembering that sometimes you may think you know all that's going on and you don't, right?
And in that moment, I thought, he's chosen Pope over these guys.
What I didn't know is he didn't have a choice.
And that was not something that I was aware of at the time.
What we didn't know in that moment is that months later in September,
Kentucky would have the number one recruiting class.
We were worried about both recruiting.
He's already done a great job there.
Who's up next?
Let's go to Dwayne.
Dwayne.
Go ahead, Dwight.
Greetings from Western Kentucky, Drew.
Matt, I've got a question, NCAA NIL question about should the NCAA
develop a format contract and should there be like a price?
pricing guide for levels of commitment.
Yeah, you can't do that.
You can't do.
So, again, we have to reorient our thinking on college sports to think of it like a business, right?
So you can't.
So we have to because the Supreme Court has now said college sports is a business.
You can't, the rules of economics have to play.
You're not allowed an organization that has a monopoly, which is basically what the NCAA has.
you're not allowed to set prices and fix them.
Well, I meant like a minimum.
I mean, they could do a minimum, but they can't do a maximum, if that makes sense.
Right, right.
So I understand that.
So because of that, yeah, I mean, they can do a minimum.
I don't think the NCAA will do that because there are some kids that probably will get zero.
But they could not set a maximum.
They couldn't set a salary structure like in the NFL.
where you go a first year makes this and blah blah you can't do that in college sports because they
don't collectively bargain right what about a format contract that so that everybody kind of has the
same they could do that i think they could probably do that yeah i think that probably be allowed
that's just a guess but i think so yeah appreciate the call you're saying like there could be a
uniform contract i think i don't think that would get shut down by the courts a uniform contract
of everyone has to sign i think that would probably be open
Well, why would people be against it, against something like that?
Because there are some schools that don't want people to know what they're doing.
And then I think there are schools who don't want there to be a market that everybody knows what everyone's getting paid.
Yeah.
But I think that's inevitable, so they're just going to have to get used to it.
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Who's up next?
Let's go to Kyle.
Kyle, how are you, Kyle?
Hey, doing good, Matt.
I'm concerned about our football team's offensive scheme going from game to game
in terms of being replicable for success in the SEC.
I want to bring up the fact that during South Carolina and Georgia game,
both games, we had about 30% of our passes going 10 yards or farther downfield.
And many of those South Carolina first reads were for when Brock got sacked,
we're going above 10 yards downfield.
And then Ohio, we jumped that up to over 62% of.
of attempts going 10 yards or further downfield.
So I just want to hear your thoughts on the lack of play calling for like three to eight
yard passes to set up, which I think will be crucial, third and manageable for against
Ole Miss to control the clock.
And then how is Dane Key, who is six foot three in a massive target and is by far the best
route runner and getting cornerbacks turned around?
How is he not getting more targets for running like simple slant dig or out routes?
What are your thought?
All right, Ryan, I could see you a few, like foaming it.
the mouth during that whole conversation.
That is our Don Franklin call today because I could not agree with him more.
I think he should throw it to six every time.
But it changed things up last week and you saw the difference, man.
You've got a big target out there and he can, you know, get those six to eight yard
routes every time.
Why not utilize it?
But I'm afraid going down an Ole Miss we're going to see running or a lot of running
because they want to control the clock, keep Ole Miss's offense off the field.
I think we're going to hit ground and pound it.
I don't think you're going to see us air it out.
I don't either.
I agree with Ryan.
They're going to try to like, they want to limit possessions for Ole Miss.
They basically, and it's not a terrible strategy.
When you play a team better, this is what frustrates me about when we play teams like Ohio
or even South Carolina.
When you're as good or better than the team, play your offense.
But when you're playing a team that's better than you, you want to slow it down.
And I think that's probably what we're going to see Saturday.
They're going to play slow, but they always need to run.
They're not just going to drop back and air it out on first down.
They need to run to set up and get to a third and short.
Here lately, we've had a lot of third and long.
I mentioned this yesterday.
I think we're forcing Barry on Brown too much,
and it's not getting very far with these jet sweeps and the screens.
I wouldn't mind a little more Dane, especially after the way he played last game.
But the point is, they've got to run the ball.
That's just Kentucky's identity to be able to throw.
Yeah.
And it starts with getting a few chunk yards on first and second,
so you're looking at a third and four instead of a third and nine.
Who's up next?
Matt.
Matt, go ahead.
Matt.
Hey, Matt.
This is a first-time call, long-time listener.
Who are?
Got a question for you, and I'm going to hang up and listen to your all's comments.
With sports betting coming into Kentucky, do you think that's had a negative impact on
UK's fan base as a whole?
No.
With money being on the line.
No.
No.
I mean, we've been negative.
There have been people negative since the eight offer-up days.
I mean, I don't think money.
has anything to do with the I mean if you want to know why the fan base is all right so when did sports
betting start it started last fall what happened in football we did some had a relatively disappointing
season what happened in basketball we had a really disappointing season then we get to football
we lost to south carolina a team we got to beat so the negativity is not because of betting the
negativity is we just haven't been good if we were good everything will be positive I mean
it's just kind of how it is.
All right.
I won't go ahead and throw this out there.
It's getting fall time.
Everybody's cooking soups and chilies.
Noodles do, in fact, belong in chili.
Go cats.
Oh, noodles do belong in chili.
My mom makes chili with noodles.
Yep.
I grew up with it.
Yeah.
I don't really like chili noodles in chili,
but I like chili over noodles at Skyline.
Uh-huh.
Yes.
So I actually, I don't know why I wouldn't like it in reverse.
same thing. You're just building it yourself.
But I think the way you build it matters.
I can put little noodles in chili.
I don't.
Did Gold Star or Skyline do one of them provide noodles in their chili?
Is that a thing?
I don't know.
I've never, never asked.
When I go to Skyline, I'm very focused.
Four-way onions, two crackers, knife, take half the cheese off, and then just eat.
I don't look at what other people are doing.
I don't know.
It's a very, it's a very, it's a very,
simple thing and I got to make sure I focus.
We'll take a break.
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Did you hear that conversation, Shannon, where I was trying to explain to rhyme what
Azerbaijan is?
Yeah, I was listening in.
Yeah.
I have never heard that word ever.
What?
It's a country.
It's a country.
Never heard of it.
This is a soccer team from.
the country. Carabag. Also, never heard of that. Well, I don't expect you to have heard of that.
But Azerbaijan is kind of a, it's a, it's a country that like, you know, people know,
people talk about. I'd ask you to say, where is it? It's in Europe, at the edge of Europe next to Asia.
It might have been part of the Soviet Union, I'm not sure, but it's called Azerbaijan.
I'm learning on the fly here. Okay, so I bought this hoodie once. Yeah.
And this team plays Tottenham Hotspur today in the Europa League. And so I decided to
honor them by wearing this this t-shirt this hoodie izer by zong it's you're saying it like
you're just learning to speak it's it's it's izer by jean izer by zong no zong no g at the no g
sounds like you're saying i're by jane i're by zion there you go got it very well done 859
280 27 one person writes uh here what they say one person writes matt have you seen the new show
monsters i feel like it's right up your all's alley
You've been watching that about the Menendez brothers?
I saw it come out, but I haven't seen it yet.
I watched a little bit of the first episode.
Do you remember the Menendez brothers?
Absolutely.
Yeah, that was a big deal.
It was.
I can still see the People magazine cover with them on it.
Yeah, so they were like two really handsome guys alleged to have killed their parents.
Yes.
I remember it being on television, but I don't really remember any of the details.
So, like, as I watch it, I think I'm going to like kind of learn stuff.
It was a little bit before I was paid for it.
It was like right for O.J.
Right?
It was kind of close.
Yeah.
I went to hit play on it just two nights ago, and then I saw there's like nine episodes.
There's a lot of episodes.
I just wasn't ready for the commitment, but it's on my list.
A lot of episodes.
The OJ trial and the Menendez trial were the first two like kind of be broadcast on TV.
And when the one Menendez brother testified on the stand and said those things he said,
it just blew everybody away.
We were just, I think, seeing something like that for the first time.
Yeah.
So I want to watch that.
Do you know about their famous basketball cart?
Yes.
Mark Jackson.
Look at that.
Mark Jackson.
He's playing for the Knicks.
And on the card right next to him,
and his brother was in like the Spike Lee seats.
Oh, they were in the game.
You can see it very clearly.
Was this before they were charged or whatever?
The killings had already happened.
They got the money and went and bought these courtside seats at a Knicks game.
And just so happened, they ended up on Mark Jackson's basketball card.
Oh, I didn't know that.
If I'm not mistaken, the card, they're like the only three people you can see.
It's Mark Jackson, and they just happened to be right next to his arm.
Oh, okay.
And then, um,
other shows.
I've told you about slow horses.
I'm a huge fan of that show.
I highly recommend, if you're the kind of person that likes the shows that I've talked about,
the sort of smarter shows, not the kind of trashier shows.
I highly recommend slow horses on Apple TV.
It's Gary Oldman, it's like about this British spy agency,
but it's like the terrible spies get put in another building,
but then like they're good.
They're kind of secretly good.
I've watched the first season.
I think there's four seasons.
Oh, wow.
I'm only through the first one, but I'm a big fan of slow horses.
Apple TV's got some good stuff.
Apple TV, to me, if you're just liking quality shows, Apple TV is the best.
They have the best.
Like, they don't put anything out that's not good.
And then I have not watched, but I keep hearing people talk about secret lives of Mormon wives.
I haven't heard of that.
That's got me written all over it.
Oh, you're shaking your head.
Have you seen it?
People say it's wild.
Secret lives of Mormon wives.
It's apparently more, and this is like a reality show.
Okay.
It's like Mormon wives that are also kind of swingers.
Is that what it is?
Wow. Yeah.
They got in trouble for going too far in their little group,
and they got a reality show out of it.
Yeah, so yeah, they got in trouble because they were Mormons,
and they were like, y'all are acting a little crazy.
Well, their group, they had rules,
and one of the couples snuck off and broke the rules.
Oh, they broke the rule.
And instead of, you know, ruining a marriage, your life falling apart,
they got a TV show.
They got a TV show.
So Shannon's secret lives of Mormon wives.
I'll put that on my list as soon as I finish Mr. McMahon on Netflix that just came on.
I want to watch Mr. Man, too.
There's a lot of good television on right now.
Chimp Crazy?
Okay, so I've watched the first two episodes of Chimp Crazy.
That woman is something else.
Best show out right now.
I mean, that woman is, have you seen that?
No, I want to watch it.
It's on my list.
Oh, my goodness.
Like, I watched a couple episodes with Max.
He's, like, I think he thinks that's how all Americans are like that woman.
Like it's crazy.
She has a chimp.
Well, I don't want to spoil it because there are twists and turns.
Oh, yeah.
There's lots of twists and turns.
It's called Chimp Crazy.
It's by the people who did Tiger Day.
And now it's about a woman and her chimpanzees.
That's the one everybody's talking about.
That's like it seems to be the number one show that everybody's trying to tune in.
So I'm going to see it.
All of you listening amongst those shows I mentioned,
Monsters, Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, Show Horses, Chimp Crazy, and Mr. McMahon.
There's something for all of them.
There's something for all of you in those.
The McMan Show just came out, didn't it?
Like yesterday or yesterday.
It's apparently amazing, but I haven't seen it.
Who's up next?
Dave.
Dave.
Go ahead, Dave.
Hey, guys.
Two things.
You're coming to Lebanon.
You need to make sure you know what rules are.
If it's Southern Haybiltrowers Association, so you know they count the slide or where it lands.
That's my only tip for you on the haybell throwing.
Oh, so that's a good point.
Is it air distance or is it how far it goes after?
roles. Exactly. So you need to know what, you know, what hay bale throwers association rules are using. It could be,
you know, southern haybal throwers. It could be Midwest. Just make sure you check the rules.
Okay. Well, there's southern and Midwest. Sure. I understand. Yeah, Midwest rules are crazy. But anyway,
on a more serious note, you know, you mentioned that NIL is a business. So at what point, you know,
businesses are obviously influenced by the economy. At what point does NIL begin to fright the stuff out of the
market? I think it's going to go down.
I think starting, I think we got one or two more years, maybe just one of the Wild West,
and then I think the market's going to start to control itself.
So I do not believe that we're going to see these outrageous sums forever.
Because the thing is, some people are not going to get a return on their investment, right?
Like, I mean, the teams are not going to be as good.
So I've been, and plus I think we're going to get rules at some point in the next couple of years.
So I think I said this a couple weeks ago.
the kids in this class and next year's class,
they're the lucky ones.
They're going to get more money.
But I think after this, it starts to calm down.
There starts to be an equilibrium.
Because there comes a point that people are just not going to continue to up,
up, up the money.
Thank you.
Thank you, Matt.
Appreciate it.
That's at least my belief.
We'll see if I end up being correct.
The thing about the Kentucky basketball and Kentucky football,
the owners that are now coming back to Kentucky basketball,
basketball, have they all those old donors, if they all come back?
Are we still talking just a couple?
Well, some of them are dead, the old donors.
I mean, but there are people and families who have been part of.
Let's just use Kentucky football as an example.
I know that there are four or five people that have given a lot of money.
If we were to go three and nine, do you think they're going to want to give that same amount of money next year?
Probably not.
Probably not.
And I think that's going to be how it is everywhere.
I think it's going to be a little bit like,
this is what has to worry you if you have bad years.
Because I think in the NIL world,
the cycle of bad years can be hard to control.
All right, you don't win.
That makes people give you less money.
If they give you less money,
it's going to be harder to get players,
which is going to make it harder for you to win.
And that cycle is going to be hard to get out of.
On the other side, if you win,
I think people are going to be more likely to give money,
which is going to make it more likely for you to have success.
And I think that cycle, when you get started spinning in it,
it's going to be very important to keep that momentum going
because if you start going in the other direction, Drew,
it could really lead to a quick downfall of a program.
Oh, yeah.
Look at Mark Pope right now.
On fire this offseason, NIL's in a great spot.
You go beat Duke in the third.
game of the year, you're going to see more come in.
It's going to stick around. That energy is going to get even bigger.
Now, in that one-off, you wouldn't lose it.
But I'm just saying that'd be a great way to maintain that, keep it going for Pope,
who is just starting his, you know, career at UK as a coach.
One of the things I thought was fascinating is one of these websites, I think it might
have been on three, ranked the eight basketball collectives that were doing the best,
basically raising the most money.
And what I found fascinating is, of the eight, seven,
Seven of them had brand new coaches.
Seven of them had the only one that was Kansas that had the same coach.
I found that interesting because what that says to me is probably the best way to change your NIL fortunes is going to be to change your coach.
If things aren't going well, change your coach, it re-ads energy.
People decide to donate.
So I think what you might see in this NIL world is that teams are quicker to just hit reset so that their NIL can.
restart. If seven of the top eight in college basketball have new coaches, because it was like
Kentucky, Arkansas, Louisville, Michigan, these schools. BYU. BUIU was one. Kansas was the only one
that had kept going. And I think that's just an interesting development. People don't want their
new coach to fail. And, you know, current coaches, they've been places long enough that they've
soured relationships, not as much energy behind them from the fans. Whereas like I just said,
with Pope, when Pope touched down, our donor said, we want to give him the best
opportunity to succeed here.
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baseball things the white socks won again they keep trying to break the record for most
losses and they keep winning.
So all these people continue to go to the games and they keep getting screwed over there.
Are you still betting them?
Ryan was betting them every game.
I've bet the White Sox to lose every game since late July.
So did you bet the ones they've been winning?
I did.
The last two games I've lost because I bet them both to lose both games.
Tonight is also the last Oakland A's game in Oakland.
They are moving at the end of this year.
The last Oakland A's game, there's a movement of people to show up and just boo the owner
the entire game for moving the team.
But this will be, think about it, the Oakland A's, that's Mark McGuire,
Jose Canseco, Dennis Eckersley,
Dave Hedarsley, Ricky Henderson,
Ricky Henderson, give me some more A's.
Reggie Jackson, Vida Blue, Catfish Hunter,
Terry Steinbeck, Joe Rudy, Jerry Steinbeck.
All of these famous, Campanaris.
Oh, not, Bert.
All of these famous Oakland A's,
Walt Weiss
Oh no
Are all
Headed out as they move
It's kind of sad
It is very sad
The Oakland A's franchise
Has been one
That has just been synonymous
With baseball because they'll have this
Great run
Like a two or three year
Great run
And then they'll totally stink
For two or three years
Did somebody say Dave Kingman
Did he play for the A's
He probably did
Jason Giambi did we say
Oh that's
Both Giambi's
They had a Jason and a Jeremy
Right
Come on let's do some more
Raleigh fingers
Raleigh Fee.
Did you say catfish hunter?
Catfish hunter.
Gene Tennis.
This is a great tribute.
Uh-huh.
They might play this segment at the game tonight.
Probably part of the problem is we've gone and not mentioned a player from the last 15 years.
That's maybe part of the reason they're moving is we've yet to have a player from the modern era.
I don't have one.
I don't have one from the modern era.
Can you think of one from the last 15 years?
I think of Mr.
Can you, you're 25.
Can you think of Ah, Oakland A?
No.
He doesn't even seem to know what the Oakland A's are, the baseball team.
Do you know one?
So I was in Europe and I was eating at an Indian restaurant.
I want to say in Vienna.
And there were two women sitting at the table across from me.
And one of them had an Oakland A's hat.
Wow.
And she heard me talking to the waiter.
and I guess she could tell I was American.
So she said to me, she said, I just got this hat.
I really love it.
She said, is this team good?
And I had to say, no, they're the worst team and the sadness on her face.
I should have just lied to her and said, yes, they're great.
But she was like, it's so cool.
It says, A.
You could have said, well, they're better than the white socks.
Yeah, I just had to go.
I just kind of looked at it and was like, no.
You burst her bubble.
They're not good.
Sorry.
Who's up next?
Did you ever see the A's movie, that Billy Bean, Billy baseball?
Moneyball.
It was really good.
It was really good movie.
Matt Olson, by the way, I know him because the Braves traded for.
Yeah, that's, there you go ahead.
That's my most recent.
All right, go ahead.
Bob and Jamestown.
Bob and Jamestown.
Go ahead.
Matt, what's it going to take for the Reds to get back to the glory of the big red machine?
They got a chance now.
They're going to kind of get it.
They need to get one or two more hitters.
I think their pitching staff is going to be in good shape once everybody gets healthy,
but they got to get one or two more hitters.
You know, Marte has been a disappointment, and Carseone Strand has been a disappointment.
Ellie's great.
McLean will be great, but they got to go get a couple more guys.
Did you see Indian take that hit on the head the other day?
I did, yeah.
He's okay, but like all these dudes are just okay, and we need one or two more studs.
Ellie can't be our only stud in the lineup.
Okay, Matt, I got another one.
Go ahead.
No, you appreciated it.
Once you appreciate it, it's all right.
You're appreciated.
Pitching staff's good, though.
Yeah, Hunter Green had a great year.
Nick Lodolo can stay healthy.
You got Rhett louder, Chase Burns coming up.
You got Andrew Abbott, who looks like the dude in Breaking Bad with the mustache.
I like our guys, but we're just, we're one or two people short.
You're just the Reds.
It's okay.
It is unfortunately.
Did you see, by the way, Cleveland beat Cincinnati, so they won the Ohio Cup.
And in the celebration in the locker room, they all wore shirts that said Cincinnati is in Kentucky.
I saw that.
Did they?
I respect that.
That's kind of a good troll.
Kentucky is not a put down.
No, I saw the shirt go viral before I knew any context, and I thought that's kind of a cool shirt.
Did I also see that the Reds broke up a no-hitter on a bunt?
Come on.
What?
It's okay.
Sometimes you've got a bun.
Stop the bunter.
Yeah, stop the bun.
Elie Day of the crew.
Stop the bun.
I'm big on bunning during no hitter.
Cincinnati people, first of all, do you consider Cincinnati to be kind of part of Kentucky?
I do.
I wish we could just kind of redraw the district map and include it in Kentucky.
A lot of Cincinnati's biggest stars and celebrities live on the Kentucky side.
True.
Airports on this side.
True.
I'm told virtually all of the Bengals live in Kentucky.
I don't know about the Reds, but like almost.
All of the Bengals live on the Kentucky side.
The airport, like you said, is in Kentucky.
You know, the suburbs of Northern Kentucky have grown exponentially.
Yes.
You know, basically, whereas the whole South has essentially turned Republican,
Northern Kentucky, which always used to be Republican, has turned Democrat.
Had they?
Yes, because of the change in demographics.
I feel like we should just incorporate.
You know what?
They're getting a new Margaritaville.
You know what side they're putting on?
The Kentucky side.
They're getting a new margarita.
A resort.
Not like the restaurant.
Like a resort.
Do you on the Kentucky side?
Yeah.
They said, we're not putting this in Ohio.
We got it on the aquariums side.
I don't know what you mean a Margaritaville resort.
What does that mean?
There's like Margaritaville restaurants where you just go get a plate of nachos and a margarita.
But this is like hotels.
They're having a Margaritaville hotel.
Oh, it's huge.
It's a big deal.
Where is it?
Newport.
It's in Newport.
I've saw where they've already started.
They've cleared the land.
It's a couple years away.
You know, Jimmy didn't get to see it through RIP.
But the point is they wanted Kentucky to have it.
So they believe that people who are like,
I want to go to the Margaritaville Resort will want to do it in Newport, Kentucky.
You go to the aquarium, then you go there.
Yeah.
Mike Franklin will be there every weekend.
I will be there most weekends.
It's a big deal, Matt.
And Ohio didn't get it.
We got it.
Okay.
No, I mean, Newport and all those places are so much better.
than they used to, than they were.
But still, I wouldn't have thought that they would get a Margaritaville Resort.
I want that shirt.
Cincinnati's in Kentucky.
Cincinnati's in Kentucky, I like, they consider it a put down.
I consider it a compliment.
All right.
Tomorrow we are at Ham Days.
I learned that to throw the hay, it's how far it rolls.
So keep that in mind as you're working on your technique getting ready for tomorrow.
Do we know what a bell, bell hay even ways?
Lots.
It's pretty heavy.
I have no idea what a bail.
I'm going to go 55 pounds.
Yeah, I'm going to go, yeah, it's going to be something I can easily.
I've been lifting, pushing and pulling.
Pushing and pulling.
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Remember, if it rains, they'll have us in the gym.
Hope you'll come out, and then I'll see all you guys in Oxford.
We'll see you tomorrow.
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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Last night, a blown call changed a game.
This morning, the internet lost its mind.
And nobody's telling you exactly what happened.
That's where Sports Slice comes in.
I'm Timbo, and every episode,
we're cutting through the noise,
breaking down the biggest moments in sports
and giving you the real story
behind the headline.
And we're going straight to the source
the athletes themselves.
Their locker room stories,
their reactions in the moment,
and the stuff nobody gets to hear.
Listen to Sports Slice on the Iheart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
And for more, follow Timbo Sliced Life 12
in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok.
What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas.
And I'm C.J. Toledano.
It's our favorite time of the year
on our podcast point game, the playoffs.
We're digging into the big.
surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments.
If we didn't talk ever again, I was hungry. You just understood. That's how personal it got.
Wow. Then after that game seven, Marquis come until he's like, you know I love you, dog. You know, it's all love.
This was just playoffs. This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the Iheart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey, everyone. It's Ryder Strong and Wilfredel from PodMeets World. And now the PodMeets Twirled podcast.
who were completely clueless to reality TV,
and we're gearing up for the season finale of Survivor.
I know we annoyed a lot of our listeners by our severe lack of survivor knowledge.
That is the point of the show.
I'm just going to remind you.
Again, we are experts.
Listen to Podmeets Twirl on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcast,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
Your 20s can be so exciting,
but they can also be really overwhelming, confusing,
and honestly, just kind of,
lonely. May is Mental Health Awareness Month and the psychology of your 20s is breaking down the
science behind the biggest roadblocks we face. I was six years into my career, the 80-hour weeks
and just the first one in, the last one out, and I ended up burning out. There was a large chunk of
my 20s that I like was just so wanting to like be out of that phase out of my skin and I just like
really regret not living in the present more. You don't need to have everything figured out right now.
You just need to understand yourself a little bit better. Listen to the psychology of your 20s.
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
