KSR - 2024-10-14- KSR - Hour 1

Episode Date: October 14, 2024

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You got the football game. You got Big Blue Madness. You got Rick Petino and everything associated with it. So what I'm going to do just for sort of organizational purposes. I think we do football hour one, Big Blue Madness, Petino Hour 2. Is everybody good with that? I think that's the order probably. I think we do that because I don't want to spend the whole show complaining about football,

which is what it would be. But I also can't, we can't ignore losing at home for the second straight time to Vandy. So what we'll do is if you call in hour one calls are football calls. and our two calls will be basketball. So 859-280-2-807. I'm going to, the lines are open. I'm probably going to use you all a little more than I normally would on a Monday show because I just want to hear people's thoughts.

This is halfway through the year. This is a state of the program kind of moment, right? And it was bad Saturday. Ryan and I were talking before the game. And Ryan, we didn't play well. But I can say if you just play, play normal, you win that game by 7 to 10 points. And what I mean is, Dane Key gets two penalties on two different drives that if we don't get, there's at least

a field goal on those two drives, the personal foul and then the hold. That wasn't Key. Who did the hold? Yeah, it wasn't Dane on that one. We had 11 other penalties, pick one of the holds. It seems like. But those were while we were in field goal range and they took us out of field goal range. Okay. Then two miss snaps, that's four points, right? Yes. And then getting to the half yard line and not scoring. Come out with zero points.

So you add all that up. If you just do that, you win. But this is a horrible loss. And it's a horrible loss that I think is reflective, Ryan, of just a confounding year or two with Mark Stewart. And it seems like it's the same issues that are coming up, you know, the penalties and the unsportsmanlike conduct penalties. and things that are drive killers. It seems like we've been talking about the same thing for the last couple of years.

The stat that they're 2 and 10 in their last 12 SEC home games is just unacceptable. And like in use Stoops word, it's embarrassing. Very embarrassing. That and the record out of by weeks is just mind-blowing. Five and eight. It's so bad. I don't understand that.

I can't figure out why they're so bad coming out of a buy week. Well, Stoops, this time around, you know, normally he ignores anything when you're looking backwards. Like say, you know, this team won last year. He's like, I want to hear about last year. It's this team. and that. But he admitted last week, he's like, guys, this

team is horrible at home in the last couple years and horrible out of buy weeks. And he said he was asking them like, what is the problem? Are you distracted at home? Are you getting too juiced up? It's like even after when they lost to Vandy, he was searching for answers. He was confused. No, he was clearly searching for answers. His post game comments

with Mark's, uh, with Tom Leach, Tom Leach said something like, what do you, what do you make of what happened? And he said, I don't know. Which is interesting because it's not what people want to hear him say, but it's also, I think, honest, I don't think he knows. Like, I don't think he knows what, if he knew what to do, they would change it, right?

And nothing is particularly working. And it's an all-systems breakdown. And it's the same stuff. I mean, you can hear my post-game comments if you want, but I said it's discipline. It's offensive line errors. And it's, I continue to say kind of what I said last year. an undeserved arrogance. And it's also just clock management and stupidity.

I mean, the way we ended the first half. I mean, even the penalty at the half yard line, to me, the most frustrating moment of the game is that penalty on the half yard. Yes. Because it was mincy, right? I believe it was. I think on the goal line was Cox. Cox, okay.

Well, they both had two or three penalties each. Yeah. But let's say it's Cox. chances are very high that play was a run up the middle from the half yard line. Cox and Mincy aren't even really going to be all that involved in the play. The only thing you can't do there, well, besides fumble, the only thing you can't do there is get a false start. You could argue a false start from the half yard line is the worst penalty in sports because even if you get it, then if you got a five yard on penalty on them, you only get half the distance so you don't

only get to the two and a half. It's the worst penalty you can get. It's the only thing you can't have happened. And Drew, it's happened twice this season. It's pretty amazing to get to the one-yard line, have second one, and to leave with zero points and there wasn't a turnover. Yeah. They somehow managed to not score at all because even after they move it back and couldn't find the end zone, had the, you know, bobbled the snap on the field goals. That's humble. You somehow didn't score from the six-inch line without the other team taking the ball from me. That's, I mean, and that's what I knew we were going to lose. I mean, I'll be honest with you, that's what I said, well, this isn't going to happen.

And, you know, part of my frustration is, I do wonder, I do wonder this. And I'm not, I'm not trying to harp on something. You know, it's funny to me that a lot of my harshest critics during the Cal era are the harshest critics of Stoops during the Stoops era and say all the things or worse that I said about Cal that they said was the equivalent of me being Benedict Arnold, they do about the football staff. So I'm going to take the view of being the exact same with Stoops as I was with Cal. I said I thought COVID changed with Cal the direction of the program.

There was something different after it. I sort of wonder, Ryan, if his attitude and the reaction from the fans, the pony up is that moment with Kentucky. That that, I hear that, that is texted to me during games. 20 times a game when we're losing. I hear people say it coming out of the stadium, right? Like people will say that people yell. Like I wonder if this relationship between stoop's and the fans,

which had been so close for so many years, he was almost used as the model, if that changed the way we look at it. Because now, after being told, you got to show up, you got to be loud, you got to pony up. now when they don't hold up there into the bargain, it feels like to people, Ryan, it hurts more.

I was going to say this. I was at the game, and there was a guy yelling as Stoops was walking off the field. I sure am glad I ponied up for this, coach. Aren't you glad we all ponied up for this? You know, I can't say the exact words he was saying, but yeah, you're right. I think some fans are now been rubbed the wrong way.

If the Stoops era ends, we'll look back as like that was the dividing line. Yeah, he kind of gave the fans a little. bit of a knife there to stab him with when things aren't going well. And it's not just the NIL. The fans have been showing up. That was a crazy atmosphere

for a Vanderbilt game. It was. I think back to years ago when you and I were sitting up there with Team Patrick and Vandy was empty, and to see what they brought Saturday night under the lights, with the new light show they do and everything that goes with it, tailgating was good. Stoops couldn't ask for a better setup for that to be a great night

and they just dropped the ball from the moment it started. Yeah, all the things you'd worry about letdowns with Vandy, the fans kind of helped ensure that didn't happen, and then the players still did it. And I'm not trying to say just the players, the staff. I put the staff on it. But the errors are like, it's not, I think what's so frustrating fans is this is not a talent issue this time.

It was a talent issue for so long in this program. It's really not. I mean, we have offensive linemen like, okay, you're not very good. But just don't hold. Right. Just start when the snap happens. I mean, just catch the snap, right? Don't bounce the snap.

Yeah. I mean, just do those things. We probably still win, right? And it wasn't Brock's best game, but we didn't lose because of him. No. It wasn't the receiver's best game. I mean, Dane, that's a huge screw-up by day. But he had a huge game.

Yeah, but it's a huge screw-up. It was. I mean, we can't just overlook that. That's a huge screw-up. I like Dane, but you cannot do that, especially once you're in the red zone. Like, that's a selfish play. And we've seen too many of those from Dane and Bary. We just have.

Now, at the same time, they can make catches. Yeah. That make you go, I mean, that Beryon catch on the sideline was just insane, right? But it's not the talent. And I think, Drew, that's what drives people the crazy. Yeah, I mean, 12 penalties for 106 yards. 12 penalty. I mean, at 7 or 8 in the first half.

And as Picoro said, that doesn't even include in the NFL, they include the yards of what would have happened. Right. In college, they don't do that. A couple of those penalties cost 30 to 35 yards each. Like it would be, it probably is 160 or 170 yards of actual damage. Yeah. First drive, you had the mincy hold, and then Dane hitting the guy in the back of the head took him right out of the red zone or right on the edge of the rearie on kick. That's it. The kick return

to Barry on brought it back by I think 35 yards. I mean, no offense to the guy, but we had one guy commit two backbreaking penalties on special teams. The same guy. I thought it looked pretty evident early in the game. Vandy was trying to bait Kentucky into some of those foolish penalties. Well, we fell for it. I know it's an intense atmosphere night game. You're fired off hadn't played in two weeks. But they almost should have said, look, they are trying to get these out of you. You're going to have to keep your composure after place. By the way, that's what we used to do. We used to try to get them like the other teams, man.

Like that was kind of, in some ways, that Vandy team reminds me of the early Stoops teams. Punching above their weight, doing the little things right, waiting for you to screw up. I mean, this wasn't, Vandy played Alabama, punch for punch and beat them. That's not what happened here. No. They played good, but we beat, like. You know, outgained them. We out gained, like we were equal to or better, but we beat ourselves.

We did what we used to do to other teams. If you told me before the game, our defense was going to hold them to 20, I thought, we're going to win the game. If you had told, I said 20, all we got to do is score more than 20, and we didn't. And this is the staff that gets me the most frustrated. Since 2018, teams playing Vandy in the SEC, SEC. have scored over 13 points every single game. We're the first team since 2018 to not score 13 points more,

to score more than 13 against Fannie. Well, then you deserve to lose. You deserve to lose. Congrats to you, Shannon. Well, I didn't do anything. Well, it is your team. You know, I kind of have mixed emotions about the game. Nobody cares about.

their team less than Shannon. He's a Vandy fan that's like, eh. No, I was celebrating when they beat Alabama last week. This one makes you melancholy. I like both programs. I understand that. Well, 859-280-2287. We already have full lines.

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The atmosphere at the game was awesome. I mean, our fans showed up and brought it. They absolutely did their part. There's no doubt about it. There were more people. We had the, that was the most people we've had at the bar since pre-COVID. For like a pre-game show. I mean, there were people, unfortunately, you know, we didn't get the turn as much

because people were just sitting there enjoying the atmosphere. So a lot of people didn't get in. But, like, I was amazed. how many people were there, and we had so many breakdowns of equipment. They got to see me, they got to see me frustrated. They got to see me bleed, which I'm sure a lot of them were really happy about is my. Blood, sweat, and tears going into the broadcast. Yeah, we really was.

It was a blood, sweat and tears. It was a lot going on. Let's go to Justin. What's up, Justin? Yes, I didn't know exactly what I was going to say when I called, but there's, I'm frustrated. Well, that's a good reason to call. I've been, I've been to plenty of games. I've put in, just like many of the other fans.

put in time, money, and effort to be at those games. I'm tired of all the crap. I'm tired of the undisciplined. To be honest, a lot of this is on the coaching. How do you year after year after year have all these penalties, the unsportsmanlike conduct? How do you put a ball in a player's face? This game was important for us.

As a fans, as the program, I'm tired. I'm sick of all, I mean, it's not the offensive coordinator at this point. Stoves been the only remaining constant. that anymore. I mean, you really can't, Justin, and I appreciate the call. You can't say the offensive coordinator. Liam Cohen is killing it at Tampa. He's killing it. As much as I dislike Shannon Dawson, he's the offensive coordinator at Miami, which is undefeated right now, right? I mean, Skangarello works, have been working in the NFL since he left here. Like, we can't, it's, you can't put it on Bush Hamden. You just can't. Like, I'm not saying he's the best

offensive coordinator in the world, but honestly, how could we even know? Because the guys, when they leave here, let's be real, they do well. So, like, what are we supposed to say, Drew? This morning, I'm trying to write about the Vandy loss, and I'll look up in Good Morning Football's name and Liam Cohen, their coach of the week in the NFL. I mean, he is kind of the talk of the NFL, at least in the coordinator realm, of how good he's doing in Tampa.

And then we're having to look up and see Kentucky has four touchdowns and four SEC games. He's going to be a head coach soon. You know, they had 50 points yesterday, didn't they? The Buccaneers? Isn't it? I mean, so, and the discipline, I mean, Ryan, I don't want to put you on the spot, but why do you think something like happened with Dane? Why does that happen, you think?

I think there's a lot of jaw and talking going on, and sometimes I think when you... Why do you think it gets to us more than it gets to the other team? I don't know. I mean, it was obviously it was a bad penalty. There's no doubt about it. It was a bad penalty. But we had, like you said, we had 12 penalties. And then this is not the first game when we've had a multiple.

multiple, multiple penalties that kill drives. I mean, the fall starts and the holds. Seriously, I mean, I let them go. A couple times the holds were play, it wouldn't have even mattered. Like, it's after the play had left. They got, and all of those holds were legit. Honestly, I don't mean to be rude to our offensive tackles, but I watched, because I had someone text me and go,

they only called the holds on us. They could have called three or, they could have called 10 more. on those guys. They hold every play because they get beat every play. I mean, none of them have been good, but Cox is like seventh year senior. Had a pretty decent year last year.

He's kind of regressed. His knees are shot. He's just his knees are shot, which means they don't think they have anybody better. In some ways, in some ways, just what I know about his situation, I can't get mad at him. I do think he's doing

the best he can. His knees are just shot. Now, the problem is why is there nobody else that can play? And Corlin Ford was a good addition. We haven't really seen him this year. So that's on the depth, the offensive line coaching. I can't really blame him because from what I understand, like, he just can't move. Yeah, because he did look better last year and it made some critical mistakes so far. Let's go to Richard.

What's up, Richard? Well, yeah, we do. We've just got the way it is. And oh, by the way, went to midnight madness. loved it. That's a great time watching. That's a second. It was great.

First time I've been since Rick left. All I got, for you, y'all have nice stuff. Thank you, sir. Thank you. There you go. He summed up the whole weekend. There's going to be a lot of that in terms of

how people look at. Tyler, go ahead, Tyler. Hey, since we're doing pretend on the second hour, can I hang on to the second hour? If you want to, Tyler. Nobody wants to talk for all. I got it.

Hang on, Tyler. If Tyler's, if Tyler's, if Tyler, wants to hang that long. I'll let him do it. We got other lines. Joseph, go ahead, Joseph. Yeah, people complaining that they only call holds on us is like when a political candidate says they only fact-checked

me. I agree with that, actually, yes. That's a similar, I do think that's a similar analogy. So, I called in after the Ole Miss game, and I said, you know what? Stoops is a hell of the football coach, and I still believe that. But I think

his issues are so glaring that they are difficult to overcome sometimes. And this was a good example this past weekend. You know, I have a mutual who knows Liam Cohen. And through the great mine, Liam Cohen was very upset about overall discipline in the UK football program, not just like off the field stuff, but just like in the locker room on the practice field, on the field, he just didn't feel like he had control of anything.

I think there was, on that point, Joseph, I think, and again, I can't say this is true this year, because I have not heard one way or the other this year. I don't think there's any doubt, and I think you guys, Drew, Ryan would agree. There was a significant issue of people feeling like the program had gotten out of control last year. Now, I have not honestly heard whether it was better or worse because a lot of that stuff comes out during the summer and I wasn't here, but is it fair to say that that was definitely a concern last year? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And I think Stoops has had a problem for a while.

I think sometimes the stars, guys having a good season, they might get away with a little more than someone following down the depth chart, and that just creates a little tension in meetings. And he's done so good, and you hear players talk about how he gives him so many freedoms, but I think sometimes that freedom can cross over into what they need to be doing at practice. The knucklehead theory. It is the knucklehead theory. I mean, it's Cal's greatest, for me is the knucklehead theory. I can have one knucklehead. I can't have two.

And in football, you can have one guy or maybe even a couple guys. But when it becomes a significant part of your locker room, it hurts you. And I got the sense at least last year, Joseph, that that was an issue. I can't speak to this year. But go ahead.

Yeah, I think it's just kind of been all the way through the program since he's been here mostly for the most, you know. But to the last caller, and I'll let you go. so we have an average offense. We're ranked 116th out of 133. That's not average. That's putrid.

It is putrid, and it's putrid with, I think, good players. Like, I'm not sure how good Brought Van derriff is. I don't, and I appreciate the call. I'm not saying he's great, but I also don't think he's terrible. And our running backs are fine. Our receivers, in theory, should be really good. There's no excuse for our offense to be as kind of fair to middling or worse. Like you said, four touchdowns and four SEC games.

I mean, that's unbelievable. Against Vanity, we had one touchdown in the first half, one touchdown in the second half. And we doubled the other three games combined. And two of those are home games to Vandy in South Carolina. Mark, got about a minute. Go ahead, Mark. Man, it's just the frustration from the fans is where the issue's at now. Because you go down to Florida and lose at Florida.

Yeah, which we're now not a favorite. And you come back and you have Auburn and you have a night game. at Auburn, you're not going to have anybody there. We were there at 745 8 a.m. Saturday. Yeah, but you won't do that. You won't do that in two weeks. If we don't show up and play against Florida, I don't know that I will. You know, we got, we had somebody walk by and tell us that they're going to start selling the parking spots, reserve spots. Now all spots will go up.

Yeah, that would be a mistake. You can't do that. You can't do that now. I'm not, we started tailgating for every game this year. Well, just because somebody said it, just because somebody said it doesn't mean it's true, just for the record. They're talking about this, this was K Fund. They're talking about it. Well, that would be a mistake. I think that would be a big mistake.

I appreciate the call. We're going to take a break and come right back. KSR. T.J. Smith, personal injury attorney. Call T.J. He'll make them pay. Now, more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones. Ah, it's not good, Shannon.

The good thing about being in studio is I can sing and it's at least on beat. That's right. Because there's not a delay. On beat, but maybe not on key. First of all, I don't want to hear that. But still the people like listening on podcasts don't hear the music, right? Right. I love Mark Chistot.

I'm not going to lie to you. I mean, like, it's just me and you, Shannon, we're the two people. Yep. for Mark Chestnut. Can we get a Mark Chestnut John Anderson tour? I'd be there. I'd be there. Are they both alive? Yeah. John Anderson is. Mark Chestnut alive? I think he died, didn't he? No, he didn't. Don't kill him. I don't want him to be dead. I'd like to go see him play. I'm trying to kill him off. I'm not trying to kill him. I like Mark Chestnut. He's still alive. He's still alive. Good.

Can't confirm. Let's do Mark Chestnut and John Anderson together. If you're a Mark Chestnut fan, 7-7-7-7-7-4, or are Shannon and I, the only two, go ahead and play another Mark Chestnut song on the I'll think of something. That's the one I like a lot. 8.5.9.2. What you think of it. No. What a jerk. I actually thought he was serious. I honestly, I fell for that and I know the name of the song and I still fell for it. One person writes, Matt, Stoops needs to be held accountable. Don't you agree? Well, what does that mean? I mean, this is ultimately,

I feel like we're in the same spot we were in with John Cal Perry last year. Although I don't think things are as, I don't think Stoops is as gone with the fan base as Cal was. But, you know, I mean, this is just the reality. People need to understand. He can't be fired. We don't have the money. Even if you wanted him to, and I don't, I don't think we're anywhere close to that. But if you did, we can't fight.

They don't have the money because the buyout's too high. So, like, that's what makes it frustrating because I don't really. I mean, when you hear people say that, that's nice. They can say that if they want, but it's kind of a meaningless thing. It's sort of like, I wish we didn't have to have roads and we could all walk in the sky. Okay, well, that would be nice, but it's not realistic. So now what? I'm wearing my Stoops Troops shirt today.

I'm still on board. I mean, we were just one week away from them having the best road win, road win of his tenure. And he went down to Ole Miss and beat a good old Miss team. happen? Why do we have South Carolina bomb? Great performance against Georgia. Best road win of the era

against Vandt. I don't have an answer. Why does that happen? What is going up with something at home? We keep talking about how good the crowds are. It's not like they're not getting a home field advantage. Stoops even was wondering, he was like, are there problems with tickets? I mean, he was going so

far down the list. It's like, what are your distractions? Do you have too much family here? But I mean, that's how far he's down wondering what's going wrong of how they're off at home in all these games. Two out of ten at home. It's terrible. It's unbelievable. Two in ten in the last 12 at home is crazy. And they do look.

I mean, I was at Ole Miss. They did look looser and kind of maybe there's something about. Well, you know, Jared Lorenzen used to say that. He goes, we used to love playing road games because when you want to road. And Jared, you say he loved to play at noon on the road. Because that's your whole focus. Yeah, just on football when you're on the road. Yeah.

We still haven't gotten to my biggest complaint from the game. What is that? the end of the half. I'm just going to stop watching Kentucky football at the end of the second quarter. How do you get a first down in a tie game with two minutes left and you go into the locker room 14-7 down to a touchdown? How do they even get the ball back? Great question. So they got the ball back because you threw three straight-in completions.

How do you give up 60 yards for a touchdown in that short amount of time? Look, I actually went back and watched the last two minutes because I'm a glutton for punishment. I can make a defense of his play calls. I won't do it right now because it's boring, but I could. I can't make a defense of it's third and 18. All you got to do is stop him and you hold him to a field goal and you let him go for a touchdown. Like that's, how do they do that? Yeah, it wasn't the usual recipe where they just bobble, you know, what they're doing,

don't know what they're doing. But still, the fact that you have the ball with a first down and two minutes to halftime and you go in down a touchdown. I agree. It just can't happen. It cannot happen. And then you lose by seven. And I think the reason they threw it three times answered that question is in part

because they get the first ball in the second half. And so you're trying to put points on it. And if we just ran it up the middle three times, people are going, but I think Jordan Rogers made a great point, which was on first down you could have handed it off because you got the two-minute warning. Yes, right. And Wilcox had just broken a 15-yard run.

And if he gets five or six yards on first down, your play calling looks completely different on second and third and you probably move the ball. I thought I mean it was different than the usual mistakes, but it's still, you're giving up a touchdown. Jordan Rogers, by the way, does a really good job. He does. And Tom and Cole, they do a really good job. Nathan, go ahead, Nathan. Hey, guys.

Stoops isn't there yet, but he's getting to like a cow point where people are just starting to get frustrated with them. He says he's going to change. He acts like he's going to change, but then ultimately, overall, he doesn't change. And luckily, Cal had history of Kentucky basketball being great, so people weren't going to give up. If he doesn't change and he doesn't actually take analytics into consideration and time management and all this stuff, then people are going to give up and he's going to stop getting money. He's going to stop getting everything he needs because Kentucky football ultimately doesn't have the history of greatness that people care about. I agree.

And we have a new, and we have a new coach. that is bringing such spirit and everything. It's the exact opposite of the problem of Caldette dealt with, which is he had a coach in football that made it to people who are like, you've lost touch with us, act like stoops. And now you're going to have a sense where people go, we're not doing well in football.

Mark Pope is so much fun. And I think you're right. It's almost the exact opposite scenario. It's also funny that it's, you know, you obviously knew Stoops did not like Cal and it's so weird that he's just being like Cal right now by not changing. Yeah, I appreciate the call. Stoops is a lot more like,

we'll blame himself for stuff. I think they have problems that are similar, but they're not similar people. And I don't know exactly how to articulate that. I don't think Stoops' problem is so much stubbornness in the way it was with Cal. but it is a not willing to change because he just won't take the next, like, it's like the person that drives a car that is so nervous not to wreck that it almost makes it more likely they wreck. Does that make sense?

And so you're saying like maybe early in his tenure, he was more willing to drive, like maybe cause a wreck. I don't think he had as much confidence in himself back then. And so he was, you know, he was very careful. He was willing to listen to people. he was the underdog, and now he has a lot of confidence in how he does it. He believes this mindset works, and he's got two hands on the wheel, and he's completely straight ahead. But now he's driving so slow that he might cause a wreck by going too slow.

Are you saying he's in the fast lane going slow with his left blinker on? Yeah, he's Darrell Walter at the end of his NASCAR career with the left blinker on going just go on by everybody. Like, you just got to, I don't know. I think there's some in those comparisons. There's something with just their energy too, which you can understand. Cal 15 years, Stoop's 12. It's natural for any of them.

Calium said it when he got here. But I think we're seeing Stoops just not having as much gas as he did too, which is you can understand. Ford. What's up Ford? Hey, went to bed. I couldn't go to bed because I was mad as a hornet. So I said up until 4 o'clock in the morning, plug in some numbers into a spreadsheet. And I have some data for you.

All right. Wow. Save some fun for the rest of us. Yeah. Every five years, on average, we win an extra game. every year on average our recruiting class is one better than the next guy all the while the SEC gets 10% better that was my finding so so you're saying we get we have gotten better but the SEC has gotten better at a rate higher than us yes but also we're getting better while the

SEC is getting better so take it as you will my question for you guys today is we're obviously improving as a program we're getting better talent Do you all think that the discontinuities and some of the turnover and the staff is affecting player development? No, well, maybe, but you just have to deal with that. That happens everywhere. Go ask Nick Saving about how he was and keeping his staff together. I mean, like, guys, when you're successful, they're going to come get your coaches. So, yeah, but that happens everywhere and you just have to get over it.

I mean, we've actually had, excuse me, amazing continuity at defensive coordinator over the years. Yes. Much more than other programs. Exactly, but there's no way. I appreciate the call to be a good program and not have turnover. Oscar Combs told me one time, it's a good thing if other schools are coming after our football coaches. That means we've had great success. Yeah, I mean, and good programs, they get over it, right?

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That's why I like them. They don't do that anymore. Like you don't hear the Luke Brines go, hmm. But not to know. Sounds just like Mark Chesnut. I always love that. He's playing at Rimpro Valley in November if you want to go. Really?

Mark Chestnut is? Mark Chestnut, yeah. Okay. tensions are if we mentioned somebody from the 80s, they're playing in Renfo Valley sometime in the next three. You did that with it. Was it Joe Diffy you did that one time? They're all doing it. Sammy Kirshaw, John Anderson. They're all in Renfro Valley at some point. Let's go to Sean from Austin. Go ahead, Sean. Yeah, hey guys. Loving Longhorns and I'm still a cat's fan here. But, you know, this is discipline. I just want to give you 30 seconds on discipline. I'm an army guy. Look, you discipline is a function of fear. And if you're not disciplined, then you've got to be afraid of what's going to happen if you mess up, right? Like, Stoops should be filling up puke buckets today. Do you, I mean, do you think that's, I know that's kind of the military mindset, which is that what you just said, the kind of

you've got to be afraid about what. Do you think that's, does that have to be true to have discipline? Like, or can you have this? Like, I don't know that discipline and fear have to go hand in hand. or do you think they did they do? There's a reason why that they train like that, particularly in the combat arms in the infantry field, that these guys are machines, right? And they're doing battle, right? They're in the trenches and you lose your thought.

You lose your brain and becomes reflex and instinct. Yeah, but we don't like that. And that's where training comes in. Well, no. But still, you have to, you have to make sure that, you know, again, the guys, you know, they know what their job is and they can't make these mistakes, right? They can't make these mistakes. And last thing on, on.

on being a leader and instilling that discipline, you know, there's really two kind of leaders in the infantry, right? You got a nice guy and then you got A-hole. And I was always told, when you come in as a new lieutenant and the infantry and the platoon leader, you've got to be an A-hole.

Because it's easier becoming an A-hole and then become a nice guy later. You can't come in a nice guy and then flip the other switch, right? Love you guys. I appreciate the call. That's an interesting, interesting mindset. I don't know.

I'm not sure that totally applies to football, but maybe a little bit. Corey, go ahead, Corey. Hey, Matt. How's it going? Good. What's going on? Well, listen, if anyone wants to hear any positivity or someone looking on the bright side, then you may not want to listen to my call. But I listen to Philip. I listened to Philip calling to the postgame show on Saturday night, and he said he drives three hours with his son. Yeah, let me explain to people what that was. So Philip is a coal miner who called, the post game show. It was late at night, so you might not have heard it, said he drives back and

forth three hours to the game with his son. He saves up all year for season tickets. It's the one UK football or one UK sports thing he thinks he can afford. He shares it with his son and he called in and kind of expressed his disappointment. That clip is online. Mario's put it out. But what's your response to it? Well, I mean, I listened to it and it broke my heart. And, you know, I was thinking, you know, my dad, he didn't have a son, but he had me. And we're for I'm from Campbellsville, Kentucky. We drove an hour and a half to every game during the, during the Jerry Claiborne and Bill Curry years, which I don't have to remind everyone what those were like.

And then we listened to the postgame show on the way home. And I was just thinking about how, you know, now that I'm 44 and my dad's 70, I don't remember that. I don't remember those exact scores, but I remember that time with my dad. And I think that's what Phillips son is probably going to remember. I mean, I'm not going to tell anyone how to feel about losing to Vandy at home. But, you know, coming to these Kentucky games, I remember our section. We got to be best friends with all the people around us, the guys in the blue coats. And that's what, you know, that's what Kentucky football is all about.

And so I just, I hope everyone, you know, if we went down in the swamp next weekend, and then we beat Auburn at home, then we are 5 and 3 going into Tennessee and feeling good. And, I mean, I just hope everyone keeps showing. I hope everyone keeps supporting these guys. I mean, anything can happen. Kyle's gone. Patino's back. You know.

It's a weird world. You never know. Well, Corey, I appreciate it. And I'm glad you brought up that call. Appreciate the call. That call really did affect me as well. I went back and watched it a couple times after Mario posted the video. And I do think it really was symbolic about what is great about Kentucky football.

It is more accessible to the average fan than basketball. is in some ways, at least in person. And it goes a little bit to that call earlier about the tailgate. UK has got to make sure in its desire to make money they don't get away from that. I mean, somebody just sent me this. I don't know if this is true, but this is a person that usually has pretty good knowledge. It says that the cave fund is considering taking away large areas of green space from fans that tailgate to make people pay to set up the tailgates around the area and that it might

caught and that they actually will take some away to sell to corporate tailgates that will cost a thousand dollars a game. That's a huge mistake if you do that. A huge mistake. And, you know, selfishly as a business owner, it has been good for me that the tailgate scene has gotten worse because more and more people are using our bar as the tailgate scene. But that's still bad because there's only, we can only hold so many people, right? Like, you can't get away from what that.

I would ask UK, when they make football decisions, to go back and hear that call from the guy on the post game show, or even what Corey just said, and think about, like, it's not just about the people that sit in those seats at Maker's Mark, who I saw the picture halfway through the fourth quarter, those seats were empty at the end of the game. Like, it's not about that. It's about the men and women that drive from three hours away and who make the trip and who got home at 3.30 or 4 in the morning. don't get away from that. Stoops has done a pretty good job of remembering those people. Now let's put a product on the field and let's end in the administration, consider those people when Drew we make our decisions. And remember, you just started asking those same people to pay for your players too. Exactly.

I mean, you're asking for money from fans in every which direction to go in several different pots. At some point, fans just going to say, I cannot afford this. And as we heard from the coal monitor, there's a lot of fans out there. they're already stretched thin, just trying to have a fun weekend with their family. And that's why the pony up honestly bothered me, because what else do you want these people to do? I mean, no group of people has given more with less reward than Kentucky football fans. I mean, I think that's not controversial to say. Brandon, go ahead, Brandon.

Hey, guys, I was actually going to mention Phillips call as well. I don't drive from three hours away, but I live in Somerset. It's about an hour and a half to come up there. We have season tickets. We're not, you know, overly wealthy. It takes a good bit of money to pay for those season tickets every year that we go. But I have a three-month-old son. And I would like to create memories with him.

It's part of the reason that we do it, right? So hearing that, what you were saying about them doing that to the tailgate scene, that's a terrible idea. You talk a lot about the common fan, right? Well, football epitomizes the common fan. I totally agree with that. The things that Philip mentioned, right? I mean, like, two and ten in the last 12 home games,

and we've created a legitimate SEC atmosphere. Yes. Yes, we have. I mean, it is a legitimate SEC atmosphere. It's not a joke anymore. It's a legitimate atmosphere. And it's because of those fans like Philip that drive from three hours away and spend their Saturday and pay for season tickets when they don't actually have a ton of money to do so.

But I did want to mention one more thing. Just a question to you guys, I know Stoops has cultivated these relationships with donors. And he's bemoaned it several times. right about having to do that. But he's cultivated this relationship with donors. So I worry if Stoops leaves, right, especially if he leaves on a bad note. It's a completely, I might cut you off because we have to go to the break, but it is a completely fair worry you're getting at. And it's something we will talk. I'll talk more about rather than a week. But that is a fair worry and something that I worry about a lot going forward. All right, we're going to switch gears

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