KSR - 2024-11-01- KSR - Hour 2
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Great crowd out here today.
Thank you for coming out.
I wondered with the cold and all that.
but everybody still comes.
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This is what is this?
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Let's go over a couple things here, Ryan, before we get back to the phone.
Yesterday, the coach's yelling conversation, I was getting messages all day.
First of all, it was nice to see I have more support from the coaches act like lunatics thing.
Usually I give that opinion, and that's unpopular.
People go, Matt, people need to toughen up.
Kids in my day would go and you can punch her.
right in the face and they'd be fine with it and people say that and I actually get my feels like
every year I get more and more people on my side on the coaches should stop acting like like lunatics
here's what I didn't realize the Lynn Camp story's gotten a lot of attention but there are these
stories everywhere like I think parents maybe or kids are more like hey stop yelling at us
people send me stories all over the place of this happening I don't know why the Lynn Camp one went
so viral but apparently there are a lot of others I don't know if you're listening all but I grew up
around coaches. I've heard that. My dad was a high school coach. Really? Is that right? And I had some,
a lot of coaches yesterday said this in this instant, just from the video, he said the one thing
that crossed the line. No, there was there was a line. And he said the one word too many times. He
goes usually. So how many times is enough times? I don't know. I don't know. But he said the fact he
kept saying it over and over every other word and he said that one phrase. Yeah, that one phrase,
which didn't make the video that's gone viral, you might watch and go.
well, that was a lot of times to say that word, but it doesn't seem that bad.
There's another part of it where he says something that's a blank to a blank that's a little bit more.
And I think that was probably a big part of it too.
I think that's the one that got him.
And also just not saying they should do it or shouldn't do it, but if you've got 40 kids on your football team in your locker room,
you've got 40 potential cameras looking at you.
And this stuff is just going to get out more and more if it's going on.
And it now holds coaches accountable, right, that everybody.
has got the ability to pull out a phone and video, whatever's going on.
Do you think they'll come a time?
I mean, like, Mark Pope is not really a yeller.
But you may remember, what was it, 2014, or, no, no, it was like 2012, 2013 when John
Caliperi, there was that close-up video of him calling Terrence Jones.
Yes.
Do you remember that?
And it became a big story.
Do you think that would be thought of different?
That was, what, 2012?
Do you think that would be thought of differently now, 12 years later, Ryan?
probably a little bit.
I mean, he got up in his thing and said,
you stupid, blankety-blank.
Yeah.
I think it probably would carry a little more weight in today's world
in today's society than it did in 2012.
At college, though, is it different, though, than high school?
Well, I think it is different.
I think it is too.
It's certainly different.
The question is how different is it?
If you were to walk in at halftime of a UK football game,
and Kentucky's getting their butt camp.
I'm sure there's a lot of that going on.
But I think that it would just be interesting.
I let's say that Mark Stoopsler just pick your coach that their half-time speech was recorded.
Oh, there'd be a lot of people upset.
But the people in the locker room don't care.
Yeah.
Yeah, Max Duffy on the pregame.
Well, I mean, you say they don't care.
But do we know they don't care or they just say they don't care?
Like, I mean, half-time of an SEC football game, those people don't care that he's cussing.
They're probably cussing with him.
I don't know.
Depends on what he's saying.
Until there's one kid with a video.
Yeah, there's a difference to me.
Okay, so that Lynn Camp coach, while I still don't think he should have said that,
he wasn't calling his players names.
To me, that's different than getting in a kid's face and saying,
you blankety blank, blank, blankety blank, I think that to me is much worse, actually.
Yeah, this thing with Calo we're talking about in 2012.
Yeah, I mean, it was a one line, but like that kind of thing, I think would be a lot harder.
It would.
It'd be on PTI.
Yeah, what's then?
be debated on all the sports talk shows and everything.
And the thing about this dude at Lindkamp, coach brought this up.
He goes, that wasn't the first time.
Oh, of course not.
No, no.
Because he knew it was coming.
I mean, if it happened, if you say it that many times, then you say it a lot.
I mean, I think that's probably true.
I also read an interesting story, Drew, that's in the athletic today,
which is about the college football playoff.
So the college football playoff, I just found that like logistics,
is somebody who puts on events.
I think the difference between a successful event
and an unsuccessful event
is often logistics.
Right? We talk about that.
I think, like with the blue-white game,
like it was like 60% good,
but there were some logistics that needed to be worked on.
So think about the college football playoff.
They're having to put the logistics on
of planning a game,
which could be at a million different stadiums,
and you don't know where it's going to be
and so how do you prepare?
So I read this article.
The college football playoff people.
They went to 90 colleges that they thought might in theory have to host a game.
Basically all the power schools and the secondary schools that in theory could do it.
So they last summer, Drew, had to book a block of hotel rooms in all of those cities, including Lexington.
Right?
enough for a team, like 250 rooms for the other team.
So in every city in college football, they had to book those rooms.
Then as the season's gone on and teams have gotten eliminated, they have called and canceled.
So at some point they called some hotel here in Lexington and canceled a block of rooms.
But there's a lot more to it than that.
most schools the students are out of school that weekend so it like Alabama and Georgia they save like 20,000 seats for students
but they don't know if 20,000 students are going to come yeah and they don't know whether to save them 20,000
tickets or not now we're used to in pro sports teams make you buy your playoff tickets two or three months ahead
even if you don't go but in college they've never done that.
So colleges are sitting here and decide thinking,
should we offer our season holders the tickets now?
Does that make us look presumptuous?
Does that make us look like we don't think we're going to win our conference?
Because if we win our conference, we don't have to host a game.
Then, and this is the one that the NCAA or the college football playoffs says they're the most worried about.
How do you get the people to work in the stadium?
Those are part-time jobs.
you're not going to know until two weeks before the game whether or not you have a game.
Those people, by their very nature, may have booked other work that day.
Yeah, probably a lot of them did.
And a lot, they said a lot of these schools are worried about.
They need maybe 2,000 employees.
And they're like, what if we can't get 2,000 employees to come work the day of the game?
And even if we can, we might have to use people that have never worked in the stadium before.
Wow.
So like you don't think about those logistics, but the guy that they interviewed was like,
I'm up at night every night worried about the logistics for these four home games.
That's interesting.
We think about how exciting it's going to be to have these on a home campus,
but they've never had to host something like this before at those times.
And depending on the school, it could be a small town that's going to be taken on.
You mentioned the media.
I want to add that could be a huge group depending on the game.
Huge group.
And normally for a regular home game in Lexington, Kentucky has.
six months to prepare for it.
They're going to have two weeks to prepare for it.
And unlike the NCAA tournament where you know the sites years in advance,
they will not know until two weeks before whether or not they're going to have
100,000 people show up in their city on a given day.
You don't think about things like that.
You don't.
But isn't that interesting?
Like the employees, you said, these part-time employees, they're not going to wait around.
They got other jobs.
They're going to go ahead and take something else.
That's what they said.
So like, for instance, they interviewed the guy at Georgia.
He said, we have to make a decision.
Go ahead and hire these people for an event that might not happen.
Might not even happen.
Or not and have to train 2,000 new people for a game because they may have booked work to do something else.
If you're one of the top teams, I think you can go ahead and just go ahead and book everything, right?
No.
You can't because, okay, let's say you're, let's just say you're Texas A&M.
If you're Texas A&M and you make the SEC championship game and win, you're not going to host a game.
You skip that round.
But if you make the SEC championship game and lose, you're probably going to be hosting a playoff game.
That is interesting.
You really?
And a big challenge.
And a big challenge.
And then they said, if we don't offer it to our season ticket holders in advance, if we
wait till the day of and sell it.
What's to keep the other team from coming and buying all our tickets?
It's true.
So actually just an interesting thing I hadn't really thought about about the playoffs.
Everybody said about the students, hadn't thought about that.
They're not even going to be around.
They said they have no idea what to do about the students.
Do we give these students tickets?
Do we not give them tickets?
What if we give them 20,000 tickets and everybody goes home and only 5,000 people come?
They don't show up.
No.
Who's up next?
Jason is up next.
Jason.
go ahead, Jason.
Hey, maybe Bob Costas could fill him for one of those jobs.
He's retired, man.
That'd be good.
Well, Shannon, doesn't think he can do any of it.
I don't listen to it in silence.
I know.
Wow.
You have to say that there's no way you can experience sports in the last 40 years
without thinking about Bob Costas.
But I thought I would give you guys a challenge.
How about the Mount Rushmore of broadcasters as a good discussion?
Well, I mean, there's many different.
generations. So like, I mean, I don't remember guys from, you know, the 30s and 40s.
So, LeBron, let's just do this like, let's just do our lifetime. Our lifetime, the four
biggest sports announcers of our lifetime. I'm just going to go off the top of my head.
John Madden, for me, is probably going to be in that list just because when I think NFL,
I think of John Madden. I mean, if you just look at how many sports.
he does big events, don't you have to throw Joe Buck in there?
Just because he does the biggest baseball.
I don't even like the guy, really, but he does the biggest baseball.
He does the biggest football.
What else?
Well, for me in the 70s, it was Howard Cosell.
But that's not really, I mean, that's why I'm saying our lifetime.
What is my lifetime?
He's a little older.
Okay, well, I meant the show in general, but okay, if you want to make it just yours, that's fine.
I'll do it, Howard Cosell.
Bob Costas, Vin Scully.
Vin Scully's good.
The fourth one, I'm kind of torn.
Those are pretty old guys.
Well, they're the legends.
Yeah, you've got to be old to be a legend.
I turn on TV now, and the guy who's doing play-by-play,
I've never heard of this guy before my life most of the time.
Yeah.
I mean, I think you're right.
It is tougher now.
There are very few guys who do multiple sports like they did when we were a kid.
Like, people tend to, like, I turned on the Celtics and Pacers.
I don't know if you heard this two nights ago,
when Jay Billis was calling the game, and it threw me off.
I'm like, what are you doing?
It's lost.
Like, Jay, this is, this is, this is NBA.
You're a college guy.
I still have that with Kirk, uh, doing NFL now.
Yeah, Kirk Herbstre.
Even though it's, should be used to.
Would you put Dick Vitow on the list?
I was about to say that.
I know it's just college basketball,
but when you think college basketball announcers, you think Dick Vitel.
I think Dick Vitale has got to be, I mean, who's done it longer than him?
He's got to be in a conversation because therefore,
a stretch about 10 years.
Every big game, Dick by
Tal was there calling the game.
That's a good question, sir.
Appreciate the call.
I'm kind of with you, though.
Bob Costas got to be on the list.
I don't care what Shannon says.
I feel like he's got to be on the list somewhere, right?
He doesn't get a mount.
He gets a little hill.
He's a little hill with Bob.
He's only about five but two.
That's right.
Who's up next?
Tom is up next.
Tom, go ahead, Tom.
Okay, Matt.
I got two.
I like Madison.
I got two things.
One, I'd like to ask you about your view on the electoral college.
I want to elaborate on that after I get off the phone.
I want to hear your take on it.
Pat just asked me that during the break.
Okay.
And the other thing I want to mention is I think a lot of coaches, back when I played
was in high school football, a lot of our coaches, many of them came out of the military,
and they saw how effective that was in their military.
You know, we probably have the best military on earth, and that's the way they're treated as inductees, okay?
That's probably a really good point, that they use that military training and thought that's how you coach.
I think that's a good point.
And other than that, that's it.
You've got to go to the show.
I enjoy listening to it.
Yeah, I consider the military a little different.
Like, I feel like the military gets a little more leeway to do what they need to do.
Like, I don't, I appreciate the call.
What I feel about coaches, I don't feel about the military.
My quick take on the Electoral College, because Bashir said it should go away.
I used to believe that the electoral college was a decent idea because the idea was it makes all the states important.
And in theory, I think that could be true.
But here's the problem.
45 of the states are already decided every election.
Kentucky doesn't matter.
California doesn't matter.
Alabama doesn't matter.
It seems a little weird to me that the same four.
four states decide who our president is every year.
It seems a little weird than in a country this big, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Georgia
are basically going to decide who our president is for the next 20 years.
That just doesn't seem right to me.
I feel like if everybody, if it was equal,
candidates would have an incentive to go to Kentucky and California and New York,
and people say, well, they'll only go to the big states.
I actually don't know if that's true.
I think they'll go where their people are, right?
They'll go where their people are.
what I'd like to see happen sometimes is for the Republicans to win the popular vote
and Democrats to win the electoral college so that we could all unite and say maybe we ought to do something different.
Because I just feel like, you know, I heard the Prime Minister of France or whatever.
He goes, the security of France can't come down to what the people of Wisconsin think every four years.
And I was like, well, if I was in France, I would certainly think that.
But it also seems weird to me that Harrison Trump only visit Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.
It feels like that's not how it should be.
That's just my opinion of it.
That was quite a patriotic little spiel you did right there.
Maybe you want to stand up and sing God's God.
You are standing up.
I want to sing God bless America.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Okay, all right.
Let's go take a break and be right back.
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By the way, my scenario I mentioned before.
before the break where I could see a world where Trump won the popular vote and lost the
electoral college this year.
That actually could happen.
I don't think it will.
I think it's more likely to be the other way around, but it could.
And then maybe that would change people's mind.
What happened with Hillary and Trump?
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So, but I don't think that will necessarily always be the case.
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Here's some people we missed.
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How do we miss that one?
How do we miss that one?
For sure.
Al Michaels.
Al-Michael's.
Another good one.
Yeah.
Keith Jackson.
I like a lot of people giving the shout-out to Vern Lundquist.
I thought about Vern.
I didn't say them, but I was thinking about that.
Al-Michaels and Jim Nance are two that, like, if you're talking just about our lifetimes,
Ryan, those are two pretty good ones.
So that's what I'm going.
I'm going.
Howard Cosell, Bob Costis, Jim.
Lance and Al Michaels. I'm bumping Ben Scully.
One that's a little under the radar, but we used to see him all the time at Keenland
Drew, Dick Inberg.
Oh, yeah, we ran into Dick Inberg over there. We used to see him a lot.
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You know, Patty mentioned Tom Hammond.
He's...
Tom Hammond right here in Lexington.
Yeah, he did all. He would do a ton of scuff.
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Somebody asked me this a couple days ago, and we haven't gotten to it yet.
Mark Pope, all right?
Two questions.
Question one.
Give me the number of years he will be the coach at the University of Kentucky.
And it can be, for whatever reason you think.
How many years does Mark Pope coach at Kentucky Ryan Lemon?
Kyle was here 14, so I'll say 15.
Wow.
That would make him the second longest tenured coach in the history of the school.
15.
15, all of his daughters are married and have kids and he wants to be grandpa.
He'll ride it out 15.
Why does he have to wait until his daughters get married?
They're going to have kids, you know, get married, have kids, to be a grandpa.
Okay.
All right.
What about you?
I'm already married 15 years from now.
That's on down the road.
I'm going 16, though.
I think it's going to work.
Where else is he going to go if it's working?
He loves it here.
It's not like another job's going to call him, pull him away.
So as long as he's successful, and I believe he will be, I think you'll have a good run here, long run.
These are two long numbers.
That is a good point because this is his dream job at Kentucky, so I don't think that he would leave to go to another school.
How old is he?
He's 40.
He's 50.
He's low 50s.
I'm going to give him 10 years.
I think he has some good seasons, maybe hit some bumps in the road.
I mean, we've seen this with past coaches.
You know, even Tubby won a national championship.
eventually just kind of trended it down.
So I think eventually he'll be probably let go.
Ten years, though, was a good run, though, right?
Eventually he'll be let go.
Ten years is a good run.
Yeah, that's exactly the number I was going to say is ten.
I mean, I just think this is a job that it just wears on you,
one way or the other.
Like, I think, you know, Cal stayed what?
Four years too long?
And so that was ten.
You go back to Joby Hall.
There'll be people who say probably stayed one or two years too long.
That was 10, right?
Petino was here, what, 9?
Tubby was here 10.
I mean, that's, I think that's kind of the frame.
It's like it's a 10-year job.
So I'm going to say, I'll just say 10, but that's a guess.
But you are right.
This is his dream job in a way maybe for some of those other coaches that wasn't.
Do you think, let's say he has a great 10 years, do you think he would leave to go to the NBA like Petino?
I don't think he would either.
So that means he would either have to retire on his own, which I feel like he's got more than 10 years in him, or he would be fired.
Yeah, there's three different ways someone would leave this job, Ryan.
Get fired, go to another one or retire.
I don't think he's going to another one.
Do you agree with that?
I don't think he'll go to another one.
I think he'll run it out, have a great success here.
And then after 15 years of coaching, I think he'll go in like.
like the athletic administration.
But he's 50, 50 years old.
He's a little, a little over 50.
51?
Patty thought maybe 52.
I'm going 51.
And we can look it up.
So let's say, there is a right answer to this.
So he's 51 or 52.
I also think, you know, with the money these guys make now,
this is a lot of money coaching at these schools,
you don't need to coach until you're 75 years old like people maybe did before.
Who's up next?
Got Jake up next.
Jake, I got 30 seconds.
Go for it.
Okay.
Where would you place the,
what would you place Marty Brennaman in your,
in your Mount Rushmore of the announcers?
People love him locally,
but I don't know that he would be known nationally.
But locally, he would, I mean, he'd be known,
but he wouldn't be in the top four,
but locally for sure.
Thank you very much, sir.
There you go, Jake.
You never know what Jake's going to say.
We'll take a break.
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radio. Beautiful Friday, started to warm up a lot. Now here at Wild Eggs, where you can get
great breakfast, lunch. It's an awesome place here in Hamburg. Got one up there close to KS. Bar.
Speaking of KS. Bar, we will have the game, all the games all day tomorrow, and then, of course,
Kentucky, Tennessee at night. Just for some planning in the future. Monday, of course, is the opening
game, and we hope you will come in before you head off to Mark Pope's first regular season game.
Remember, put on your calendars.
We're having our Kentucky basketball Pope era party for Kentucky and Duke on November 12th.
We're all going to be there watching the game.
Might even convince Shannon to drive up for the big opener on the 12th.
Big party night.
Tip-off not to what, 930?
Oh, yeah.
It's going to be late.
But you can come enjoy it.
It'll be a good way to kick off the season.
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Let's do our Draft Kings, KSR Parlay.
We are three of five.
We've won three of the last five weeks.
If you've been betting with us this, you have made a lot of money.
Same rules.
You got to pick a seven-point favorite or less to win.
Also can pick an underdog.
I'm going first.
I've had a lot of success making this team my lock of the week.
Nebraska.
That's what I was looking at.
Oh, boy.
Oh, boy.
No, I was looking at them too.
I got that.
This one's a lot.
Nebraska is at home.
seven point favorite to UCLA.
They are not losing to UCLA who's terrible at home.
I feel very good about this one.
I'm not going to put the lock status on it,
but I will make my pick for the parley, Nebraska.
What about you, Ryan?
Somehow Minnesota is a three-point favorite at Illinois.
That was going to be my other one.
I don't understand how that is.
I don't know.
So I'm taking the Illinois plus three.
So Illinois, yeah.
So we've got Illinois plus three.
But again, they got a win.
That was the one I was going to pick.
Actually, that's my pick. Let's do it.
Illinois, it would. No, he already did it.
No, I'm saying, but that was going to be mine.
I love it.
I like that one too.
I got a backup.
I'm good.
What is yours?
We just talked about them.
A&M has to win out to achieve their dreams.
They've been special.
They're at South Carolina.
I think it's a three-point spread A&M's favorite, but they're going to win that
one. South Carolina has struggled with teams that run the ball.
O'Mills killed them that way.
A&M is just going to run all over South Carolina.
It'll be a little bit close, but A&M will win.
I'm nervous about that one, but I'm.
I'm all right with it.
All right.
So A&M, Illinois, Nebraska, and Shannon, what's how we going to get our fourth?
We were talking during the break.
I really wanted to pick Vandy, but you guys kind of poo-poohed that idea.
There was seven and a half point dog at Auburn.
How do you guys feel about Ohio State beating Penn State?
I feel good about Ohio State.
James Franklin really wins the big one.
Yeah, he's not going to win this one.
At Penn State.
I'm taking Ohio State on the road.
All right, there you go.
So we got Ohio State, Illinois, Nebraska, and.
And A&M. Three Big Ten games are part of the KSR Parlay.
We'll get it up this afternoon and join us.
We just keep winning.
So if you're not playing, that's on you.
All right, my second part of my Mark Pope question.
I just asked you how long he'd be here.
You and I said 10 years.
Yep.
You said 15.
You said 16.
Getting crazy.
I know what's coming.
How many, how many A, national championships?
I knew it.
B, final fours.
C.
SEC titles.
All right, Shannon, you've got him here 10 years.
Yeah.
So in 10 years, what's it going to be?
I feel like, first of all, Mark Pope is going to put a big emphasis on winning SEC titles.
We're talking about regular season titles.
Regular season titles.
I'm going to say he gets four.
Four out of ten.
Four out of ten.
I feel like that's a pretty good percentage.
Final fours?
I'm going to go three.
Three, okay, national titles.
One.
All right, let me go since I also have 10 years.
Okay.
Every coach that stays here 10 years wins a title.
So I'm going to say one national championship.
You and I are very similar on this.
I'm going to say three final fours in 10 years.
I want to say four, going to say three.
And I'm going to say four.
I have the exact same answers you do.
Four SEC regular season championships.
And I think he's going to put a huge emphasis on the SEC tournament
because he knows how much it means to us.
So I'm going to say five SEC tournaments.
I think we win one out of two SEC tournaments during the Mark Pope era.
Maybe not this year, but that starts next year.
You said 15 years, Ryan.
What's he doing 15 years?
I was going to go five SEC championships in 15 years.
So he wins one out of three SEC league titles.
Because even like you said, he's going to put more emphasis on it.
Teams in the SEC are a lot better in recent years.
That's true.
I go five.
Final fours.
I'm going to go four.
Four and 15 years, okay.
But Nashville, I'm just going to say one.
I mean, everybody's.
So you think he's here 15 years and wins one and everybody's cool?
I mean, Cal just won one, tubby just won one.
And then we ran him off.
Yep.
They said.
Yeah.
Well, just for the record, Cal, Tubby, Joe B, all won one title.
Yeah.
But by the end, they pretty much won all of them to go.
I'm just, I'm saying one.
All right, one.
All right.
What about you?
That's a good company, by the way, too.
I mean, that's great company.
But remember, we're fickle by the end of those runs.
Everybody was ready for all those guys.
You still got a win at the end of the day.
To go.
With the longest tenure, I still only have one title.
But I'm just say four Final Fours, five SEC regular season, and seven SEC tournaments.
Okay.
Because of the advantage Kentucky gets in that tournament, he'll win more of those than regular season.
So we all have a similar general view.
Yeah.
Here's what's interesting about the job.
This really just occurred to me.
I want you to think about the Kentucky basketball job historically.
Go back to Rupp.
You could make a strong argument that Rick Petino is the only dude that Kentucky fans weren't ready to go at the end.
100%.
Which is kind of amazing.
Pretty much every coach we had, we were kind of ready to get out.
except Rick Petino.
He left before he could wear out as welcome.
Yeah.
So you do, it does make you think that like, this is a job that when you get there,
you almost have to accept they're going to be ready for you to go at the end.
It's hard to imagine they were ready to get rid of Vadoff Rup, but you've asked the people.
Not ready.
They, he was gone.
He was forced to retire.
People don't like to remember, but that's true.
He was forced to retire.
And as beloved as Joe B was,
people were ready for him to go.
Eddie and Billy.
Tubby and Cal.
I mean, we're the best fan base, but Drew, we're also a harsh one.
You know, I didn't live through most of those.
I can only speak about the recent one.
I mean, it's not like we just made stuff up out of thin air because we were tired of it.
I mean, he was not all the way in it seemed too and then had the bad losses.
So I don't like thinking that the fan base was ready.
I think we would have been fine with it if it just won some games.
The hard part about the job is you have to have early success to have that longevity to begin with, right?
So then once you get there, if you don't maintain that, if there's a drop off from your early success, the fans are ready to get rid of you at that point.
Let's not blame the fans. Let's blame the records.
No, I'm not blame.
Win the games.
I'm in no way blaming the fans.
I do think it is important to understand, though, like.
There's an expectation.
We, every single coach, this fan base has been ready to tell by.
Every single one of them, except for Rick Petino.
And so, you know, at least you've got to know what you're getting into.
I do think I'll remind you of the comment I had when I talked with Mark Pope.
I'm sitting there talking to him, and he's telling me, I want you to be hard.
I want you to come after me if we lose.
I want you to do this.
I want you to do that.
And he said, I said, well, listen, man, you've hit every note right.
You're doing great.
Fans love you.
And he goes, they ain't going to love me if I don't win.
He's right.
He's right about that.
I mean, he knew.
Like, he's not under any delusions, Ryan.
He knows he has to win.
He said, how many times I heard him say?
He understands the assignment.
He knows exactly what's at stake.
You got to get Ws.
You got to get banners.
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287, a little slow on the phones today.
I think the same feeling that Mark Stoops had has to do with the callers.
We have been a little slow getting ready for Kentucky, Tennessee.
Maybe they'll win.
Either way, I'm just telling you all, I'm going to be up at 1230 at night, Saturday night
doing the Kentucky Tennessee Postgame show.
If we get blown out, just call and we'll talk to Billy and I about whatever.
Because I kind of, I'm a little nervous about that one, Billy, in the middle of the night.
if we lose by 50 or whatever, 40.
I'm a little worried.
That'd be like those old Joker Phillips postgame shows
where people just call in and ask me about their relationships
or something like that.
We could end up with one of those.
We didn't.
Somebody made the point.
The women's team also opens on Monday.
Yes.
The women's basketball team plays at five,
and then you have at seven the game, the UK men's game.
So both of them are the same night.
Yeah, they're going to do, play the women.
They're going to play Memorial Coliseum at 5.
And then, of course, the men at Rupp, 98.5.
That's where the women's game will be.
If you want to listen on the radio,
and then, of course, on the UK network will be all the men's games.
So the women's team, I feel like, did you see the women sold out their full season tickets this year,
which is the first time in a number of years they've done that.
So Kenny Brooks has got the excitement going.
I love what he said, too.
He goes, I'm not surprised.
I expected that.
That's why I took this job because the fan excitement for this program.
All right.
A Caden Lewis makes his decision on Saturday.
The young woman, I'm sorry, I keep forgetting her name.
What's the woman at Sacred Heart, the young girl?
Zach Gia Johnson.
I hear she's probably going to LSU, by the way.
All.
Just that's not scoop, that's scuttlebutt, but that's kind of where I've heard.
Hope I'm wrong.
Hope she ends up going to Kentucky.
But you came out and put the Ryan Lemon scoop seal on a Caden Lewis to Kentucky Saturday.
Are you sticking by it?
This is tomorrow.
Big decision, chance for Pope to get his first really big top recruit from outside of Kentucky.
You think it happens tomorrow?
He is committing to Kentucky tomorrow, and it's not a coincidence.
They're doing it tomorrow while the Wilson kid is visiting Arkansas.
That is not a coincidence.
That is on purpose to make his announcement while the Wilson kid's making his...
One of the sort of recruiting insiders to the extent those still exist online.
A lot of people, I think, claim to be, but aren't.
But a couple of them have been very adamant that you don't know what you're talking about, saying Caleb Wilson to Arkansas.
They've even gone so far as to say Ryan is making things up.
I said Caleb Wilson's between Arkansas and Kentucky.
It's quite a battle.
UNC's in there, but it's down between Kentucky and Arkansas.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, but yesterday you were scuttle butt on Arkansas.
I don't think that's what he said.
I think you said he's down to.
He's leaning Arkansas.
Yeah, there you go.
So you said the scuttle butt was the Arkansas.
was the favorite. Are you sticking with that?
Yeah, I think at the moment, Arkansas leads.
I didn't say he's going to commit there yet.
I think it's a race. Kentucky's still trying to get him.
And now they think we're getting Lewis tomorrow, that's going to help.
But you're saying Lewis to Kentucky lock it up more than Nebraska beaten in the end.
Yes, put it in our parlay.
Who you want to put it in the parlay?
All right. Well, we'll see. I hope you're right.
That would be a massive get.
It would basically ensure Mark Pope a top five class next year in his first full recruiting class.
which would really be awesome.
Who's up next?
J. Rock is up next.
Jay Rock, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Hey, what's up, y'all, Matthew?
I'm just going to give you an opportunity since the phones were dead.
Why don't you just ask J. Rock a question one time?
You know what?
Well, I don't know that you have an answer.
What's happened to your Louisville Cardinals this year?
You all were supposed to make the playoff?
Well, Matt, I was raised in a middle-class home.
and my mom raised
that's in a middle class home.
I hollered.
I like that.
I'm not going to lie.
He's really funny,
and he's always tried to take political digs at me,
and that one I will say.
I will say that was funny.
What's next?
Brandon is up next.
She does say that too much,
and I like her.
Brandon, go ahead.
Hey, y'all need to listen.
I know I like y'all's Pope predictions and everything.
thing, but y'all need to listen to O'Brien to Damas, man.
He says that he's going to be here at least 12 years.
He's going to become a doctor while he's working here.
So he'll eventually be Dr. Mark Pope.
Wow.
Yeah, yeah.
He's going to complete it, and he's going to win multiple championships.
Well, I love it.
I mean, listen, I'd love for him to win multiple.
It's hard to win a title, though.
I mean, Drew, it's hard.
You've got to win six games in a row.
Three of them are usually toss-up games.
But great.
We've had one, two, three.
three, four, five coaches win a national championship.
I think it's a positive to say he'll be the sixth.
Yeah, I mean, I had him here 16 years and only winning one title because it's so hard.
I just think they'll be good enough every year that we're still happy, even though that trophy's hard to grasp.
What year do you think will be his first final four?
Oh, that's a great question.
Because, you know, Tubby won it in his first year, but he had the kind of the play, a lot of the players were already there waiting for him to take over.
If Pope continues to recruit at this level, if he's getting Jasper Johnson and he's
getting Malachi-Marino and he's going to get Lewis tomorrow.
If he continues to recruit at this level, I give him four years.
You're going to take four years?
I was going to say it's third year.
I don't think he makes it this year.
And the next year, you know, we're going to lose all these players from this year,
most of them.
So I think that third year is the year, Drew, he finds the balance and we make a final four run.
Yeah, I agree.
He's going to get one within the first four years.
It's just so random predict.
I mean, I won't count them out this year.
I'm not expecting it.
But I think it won't take long for him to get a taste of one.
I like four years as well, but let's say he gets two national titles here.
You rank him ahead of Calipari, ahead of Tubby, ahead of Rick.
Depends on the whole.
I mean, if he were to get two here, he would be better than anything we've had in the last 30 years.
Well, it's like the whole Yukon thing.
Like, Yukon doesn't make a lot of final fours, but when they do, they win.
Right.
Like, you know, we have, Yukon has, what, five titles, six times?
How many titles they have?
Five?
Yeah, they're on like the last two.
Yeah, they have like five titles, I think, but they've only made like seven Final Fours.
It's just when they make it, they win it.
And that's, so it all, you know, it just depends on what your record is in those games.
Who's next?
Daryl is next.
Daryl, go ahead, Daryl.
Okay, thanks for having my call.
Just got through voting to let everybody know where out there.
It is highly active at the voting polls for early voting.
What city are you in?
Real quick.
What city are you in?
Henderson.
Henderson.
Henderson.
Okay.
Yes, sir, and it has been very busy.
On a football note, Matt, I think you're right.
I think tomorrow is blowout city and your post-game show.
You're going to have to find a way to get through it because we're going to talk about some fun because I'm worried about it.
I'm not going to lie to you.
Exactly.
I appreciate your call.
Thank you.
I know you will.
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Cats and Tennessee, 745.
Shannon, give me the score and your MVP.
I think Kentucky actually not only hands.
with Tennessee in the first half.
I think we go into halftime Kentucky's winning the game.
But I think at the end of the game, unfortunately,
I think it's going to unravel and fall apart for us.
So I'm going to go Tennessee 31, Kentucky 20,
and I'm going to say Wilcox is going to be the MVP.
Wilcox, okay.
Ryan.
I don't know if Kentucky can get it in the end zone,
but I think they'll kick a couple field goals.
That's really optimistic.
I do think they cover, so I'll say 24 to 9.
24 to 9.
Three field goals, okay.
24 to 9, who's your MVP, not Dengue?
I can't pick Danky.
No.
Looks like Alex Rayner with three field goals is our MVP.
Alex Raynor.
All right, I'll go next.
I'll say, Kentucky, Tennessee 27, Kentucky 10,
and I'm going to go Dumas Johnson again.
I'm going to try to get him to finally win one, 27 to 10.
Drew, I'll let you finish.
What do you got?
Well, I've already written my prediction for the website, and you all, it's like you read it.
I had 27 to 9.
I think Alex Rayner gets three field goals.
We keep Tennessee out of the end zone for a half, but they pull away in the second half
to cover that spread by about half a point.
I will say this.
I think tomorrow, win or lose, if we're talking about Mark Stoops and his future and
kind of weather he's going to stay.
They can't go lay an egg.
They can't come out there and just get absolutely pummeled.
If they do, I think it's going to be hard to keep this fan base engaged.
I mean, I'd be honest with you.
If they get pounded tomorrow, this fan base is just moving on from football.
They'll come back to watch the Louisville game,
but there's so much excitement with Mark Pope, first basketball game Monday.
If this football team is going to make people still care,
they got to show up tomorrow.
And whether they do will ultimately be up to them.
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And we're going straight to the source, the athletes themselves.
Their locker room stories, their reactions in the moment, and the stuff nobody gets to hear.
Listen to Sports Slice on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
And for more, follow Timbo Sliced Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok.
What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas.
And I'm C.J. Toledano.
It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs.
We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season.
And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments.
If we didn't talk ever again, I was hungry.
You just understood.
That's how personal it got.
Wow.
Then after that game seven, Marquis come in to you, he's like, you know I love you, dog.
You know, it's all love.
This was just playoffs.
This was just basketball.
So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
What's up, guys?
This is Clever Taylor the Fourth.
And on my podcast, The Clifford Show, I'm bringing you conversations about all kinds of stuff.
Like being an internet famous referee.
We're in the middle of a game.
This linebacker, this linebacker walks up to me.
He goes, hey, ref, my mom wants you to wave at her.
What?
Time out.
Quarterback on office blue with 42.
Hey, ref, my mama want you to wave at her.
What?
Hey, Miss Parker.
Listen to the Cliverts show on the I Heart Radio.
Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
Hey, it's Edwin Castro, also known as Castro 1021.
And I'm Conky, his best friend and business manager.
And we've got a new show called The 1021 Podcast.
I'm taking you behind the scenes on how I became one of Twitch's most popular streamers.
We also love sports.
And with the World Cup right around the corner, we'll be breaking down the biggest
storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA.
Listen to the 1021 podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
