KSR - 2024-12-31- KSR - Hour 2
Episode Date: December 31, 2024Matt, Ryan and Drew get you ready for the UK-Brown game later today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....
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Welcome back, hour number two, Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287.
There we go, here at the KS Bar and Grill,
as we get ready for Kentucky and Brown,
SEC versus the Ivy League.
The cats come in as a now a 25-point favorite.
The line has risen for Kentucky up to 25 points today
playing against Brown.
The bar is open, and it's a packed house here.
I think it's going to be a fun day in Lexington.
This is our first game since the whole sit versus stand
thing of the Louisville game. What's it going to be like in there, Drew? Do you think there's going to be
many standing warriors out there? I think there are. I think some will just be general excitement,
but I think there might be a couple trolls mixed in. I don't know anything, but it just seems like a
situation where someone might do some attention seeking or maybe look for a little conflict.
I don't want that to be the case, but I will be keeping a close eye on Section 15. Do you remember the Georgia
the state game, the way the crowd was different because it was the Thanksgiving holiday,
it's going to be like that today, too. I think there's a lot of people at this game that they
don't go to a lot of games. You know, this is they're in town for the holidays or they're off
work today. I think you're going to see a lot of that. I think it's going to be a much
rowdyer crowd than a game against Brown normally would be. You hit on it. I mean, just walking
around. These are folks that aren't normally
have a chance to have tickets to go to a game.
A lot of out of town people here for the holidays.
So yes, they're going to be very excited. You can
feel it in here. So I think there will be a lot of
people stand up. Some people are out of spite.
But a lot of people just because they're excited to be at Ruppering and watch
this team play. It's a big Christmas gift game. You got
a big Christmas gift game. You go to Brown
in a few days. We got New Year's
we got plans. We're going to be with Ryan Lemon
downtown. Why don't you go to the game instead? And then you
get the energetic person who isn't in there much.
not the person that's in that seat every every night.
Definitely.
This is definitely a give it away at Christmas game.
So you're going to have a different kind of crowd.
You know, we've talked over the years about the football team coming off long layoffs
has been absolutely awful over the last few years.
It's interesting to see what Pope teams are like Ryan after layoffs for them.
You know, one of the things during the Cal years, hello to the guy at Murray State.
Those teams usually would see improvement after this period of time.
This was his famous like Camp Cal times, and they usually did show a lot of improvement after this 10 days.
Do you expect to see that with Pope?
I think we will.
You know, you hated to get your butt kicked right before Christmas, then have to sit on that for the next 10 days,
that horrible feeling you have because you just got run off the court at times by Ohio State.
So, yeah, I think the intensity level has been there just from hearing when the guys said yesterday,
I think they're really looking forward to finally get him back on the floor.
He said they spent up Pope said they spent a lot of time during the break doing ball screen defense,
which is good because we were awful at it.
Last year's Kentucky team was terrible at the ball screen.
This one actually thought we guarded it really well early in the year,
but then just completely seemed to lose it.
Start really with the Louisville game.
The Louisville and the Ohio State game,
we just could not seem to guard any ball screen.
you expect that to get better?
I think so because it's pretty obvious he's drilling that home.
I didn't get to hear Pope live last night, but Jackson Robinson and Lamont Butler did
interviews.
It's 20 minutes long.
They must have said ball screen defense 100 times.
And it's the answer to Jackson's first three questions.
Seems like that's all they've worked on.
Yeah.
So I think even though it stinks having a drought as a fan, you want to see them more and you
want the players to go get a reset.
I think maybe losing that bad.
It might be even more laser focused during the break because.
they know they got to correct some things.
I'm a little more confident about the ball screen defense than the one-on-one defense
because they actually played pretty good ball-screen defense against Gonzaga and Duke.
You know, they were, we've seen them be good at that in other games,
whereas I still don't know that we're ever going to be able to guard people one-on-one off the dribble.
But against the ball screen, I do think maybe we'll see some improvement.
Yeah, I don't know how much, you know, you can improve as a defensive player
during the course of a season.
You know, you can work on your fundamentals and try to,
you know, make things a little better, but some of these guys are just not very good defenders,
but they've got to be on the court because they're good on the offensive end.
Robinson said Pope's been telling them that they can be the best ball screen defensive team in the country.
Now as a coach, as a coach, you kind of have to say that to get them to try.
But, I mean, it is very obvious that's the messaging right now in practice.
Best in the country.
That's what he's telling them.
I mean, that's what you've got to tell them if you want them to strive for that.
But that's, if we were to go look at the dry race board behind the scenes right now,
I bet that's in the biggest letters, ball screen defense.
defense.
Best in the country.
That's what he said.
I'm just telling you what Jackson Robinson said.
You know, like I said, they've got some guys that have some defensive liabilities on
this team that just they're not going to magically improve and get better.
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One person writes, Matt, during SEC play, rank our three best players in order.
How do you think they'll play?
All right, so we did this a lot before the season, but now we've actually seen 10 games.
you were to say for the for SEC play who will be our three best players in order ryan what are you
going to say i'm going to go the three perimeter players actually i'm going to go lamont otega and
jackson i think those three guys you know the cc's kind of been a perimeter oriented
league for many years and i think those are the three guys are going to have to step up and play
well if they're going to do some stuff in the cc season i have butler and oway written in sharpie on
that list i think i'll go robinson too but i could put car in my in my third spot to make it three
but O.A. and Butler, certainly.
I'm going to go, Butler,
Carr Robinson, which is a surprise,
because I've had Robinson as our one.
I think Robinson's going to have a,
to me, the key to the season is now
what does Robinson do the rest of the year?
I think I kind of know what I'm going to get from Butler.
I kind of know what I'm going to get from Carr for the rest of the year.
I need to see what am I going to,
am I going to get like star-level play from Robinson?
or am I just going to get okay play?
I think that's what I'm going to need to see.
If you're going to be the guy, okay, now's the time to step up and be the guy, Jackson
Robinson.
If you want to improve your NBA stock, now's the time.
Go be that guy.
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Lee is up next.
Lee, go ahead, Lee.
Hey, Matt, with all the NIL money, you know, maybe being a little higher than we all anticipated,
do you think Division I schools are going to?
going to run out of money?
No.
You think that they may have to do away with some minor men's sports, not the women's,
because they're going to stay Title IX compliant, but like do away with golf or 10.
Yeah, so I think that's a great question.
Here's, here, I think there are going to be three things happen because of this new
revenue share coming.
Number one is there are going to be some sports go away.
It's probably going to start with one or two men's sports, but I think it'll be
men's and women long term.
I mean, they will have to, they'll have to kill the same amount of women's sports as they do
men, right?
So, like, you can't kill a women's soccer team, but then leave the same.
So you have to kill the same amount.
But there are going to be sports go away.
Just a fact.
You know, you said men's golf.
If I were, if I were thinking about what are the sports on the chopping block?
Golf is probably towards the top.
I think that I think there's a lot of schools where golf is, you know, probably in trouble.
I think tennis is probably in trouble in some of these schools.
Where I think you really are going to see it is something like swimming, where the cost is huge,
the roster size is huge.
I think you're going to see a lot of schools that are kind of in the business of swimming,
but not really competitive.
I think you're going to see a lot of those schools just get out of it.
That's number one.
I think number two, you're going to.
to see the monetization of everything, like everything.
So, you know, I don't know that it'll be Rupp Arena forever, right?
Like, it's going to be everything.
But then third, and I think this isn't talked about a lot,
coaches' salaries are going to come down.
Like, the days of coaches making $10 to $12 million are gone.
Like, and this is it, I'm not trying to pick on Mark Stoops.
but Mark Stoops making $9 million.
The next dude in college football that's as good as Mark Stoops,
he ain't making $9 million anymore.
He's making $5 or $6 and the rest that money's going to NIL.
They'll say to him, Mark, we want you to stay here.
We'll give you six.
Really, it's nine, but three of that we're putting in the NIL fund.
That's where I think it's going to have to be a Belichick, Sabin, you know,
Dan Hurley kind of guy.
to get $10 million.
I think you're going to see the average coach salary go down
and a lot more of that money, Ryan,
going to the pool for players.
Now, so it's going to be up to that coach.
You want to take that hit?
But I think the schools are going to, you know,
I think there's going to be an informal agreement.
Let's just all cool it with the coaches.
Because we got to do this with the players.
I really believe, I think the days of these,
the days of these football coaches going seven,
and five and getting nine or ten million dollars they're gone i mean look mike gundy already
readjusted his contract mike norvel readjusted his contract you're going to see more of that
especially in the acc and big 12 now the cc and big 10 may take longer but drew i think it's happening
in all of them because the money's going to be going to the players yeah i agree with you when you're
paying zero dollars to your entire locker room there was a big pot of money to give to the coaches
and the assistant coaches their travel all that but now the people actually out there with the ball
in their hand, they're winning and losing these games.
They need to slice the pie.
They're just not nearly enough to go around to pay
many coaches outside of legends,
like you said, what they're getting.
Well, let's just, I mean, let's say you were in charge of an athletic department.
Let me just put you, the listener, in charge of an athletic department budget.
Most athletic departments outside of the big schools were already losing money.
But let's just say you're Mitch Barnhart in Kentucky.
You were making a little bit of money.
money. I don't know what it was, but let's say you had two million extra in revenue.
All right, so the SEC increases your contract, and now you're getting, let's say,
$15 million a year more from your television contract. Well, that's good. But now you have to
spend $23 million more in player payouts. Where's that $8 million coming from?
Now, at least with Kentucky, you're getting an extra $15 million a year in a TV revenue. What if you're
Louisville and you're only getting 3 million more dollars in TV revenue but you still have to
find that $22 million.
Where are you getting that $19 million?
You got to get it from somewhere.
And I think those are the schools that are looking at the Mike Gundy's and saying,
you know what, can you take a little bit less money?
Because we've got to find $19 million ride somewhere.
I think it's becoming more commonplace.
Exactly what Mike Gundy did readjust his contract.
He wants to still coach.
He knows the only way he can be.
successful is to do something like that.
And one of these schools, Drew, and it's just a matter who does it first, and I'm going to
make you a prediction, I think our friends down the road are going to be one of the first ones
to do it.
They might even be the first one to do it, because I know Louisville's looking at it.
They're going to take on private equity money.
One of these schools is going to sell a percentage of their athletic department to private
equity. It is going to happen. It is going to happen soon. It's probably going to happen in the next
couple years. And I'm going to make you a bet that Louisville is one of the first ones to do it.
Because the people that run that school, they got some smart business people on there, and I know
they're looking into it. Yeah, the jersey will have the Planet Fitness logo right next to the
DC logo. I think that the days of, because we already see it in pro sports, you got the
wish symbol on Celtics or whatever it is, all the GE. They all have the logos on these jerseys now.
I think that's going to come to college.
What would you think about if Kentucky was like, you know, Kentucky and Wendy's?
I'm not kidding.
It sounds crazy until it's not.
No, no, but it's, I think it's coming, but it's hilarious to think that my favorite team is the Kentucky Clark's Pumpin' Shops.
What would people think if all of a sudden there's the Wendy's logo on their basketball jersey of their Kentucky Wildcats?
I don't know.
It's, it's, I don't know.
know if the SEC is more immune, but these ACs, I don't think people realize the crisis that the
ACC and Big 12 teams are about to hit. They're going to be expected to compete with the SEC and
the Big Ten, but with half the revenue and the same cost, because they have to spend that $22 million
and they don't have the same revenue coming in. I don't know what the ACC and Big 12 teams,
Ryan, I don't know what they can do.
That's why Clemson and Florida State are suing to try to get to move because they don't know how financially they're going to do it.
For a school like Clemson, I can see why, yeah, you want to still compete for a national level.
But if you don't have the finances the money to go get your players and pay your coaches, you've got to move to a different conference.
And if you don't, you know, they can spend up to $22.
But if you only choose to spend $10, how are you going to be able to compete with the guys that are spending $22?
It can be tough.
You're not going to be able to.
Yeah, I even read a story recently from a national person that slipped my mind who wrote it.
but they were talking about how, you know, now they have these locker rooms are so extravagant,
and there's all these things they provide to the players.
They'll dial that back and say, look, you're getting paid.
Without question.
You don't need a barbershop.
Go get a haircut.
You are exactly right.
All that stuff's going to go away, too.
So, you know, let's look at UK.
You know, there's been a lot of talk about getting a new basketball practice facility.
I'm not sure how high that was up on the radar, but it just went down.
because because that money that was going to be spent creating this great facility
they have to use it to actually give the players in there
now they're going to tell the players the money for that facility is in your pocket
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yeah back that you just have been talking about it would be that it that is something
it needs to be done.
Coaches make a lot of money.
And today in the Brown game, it will be a track game.
Probably looking ahead a little bit to Florida,
the main game, of course, for the whole season.
One of the main game for the whole season in the FCS.
And that one guy is really a pretty good player for Brown.
And so, you know, it'd be a closer game than what people playing probably,
especially at 25-20.
Yeah, I appreciate the call.
I don't think, Ryan, I'm not worried about being a trap game because we haven't played in so long.
I think the guys are going to be excited to play.
So I don't think it's like one of those things where you look past them because these guys haven't been on the court in a while.
But I just think Brown's good enough that it'll be competitive for a lot of the games.
Yeah, if we had just gotten beat by Ohio State like on Monday or something,
then you're looking ahead of Florida, maybe a trap game.
The fact, it's been so long, these guys are chomping at the bit to get back on the court.
Regardless, if it's Brown, Florida, who are?
want to get back on the court and play somebody Kansas played Brown last weekend they were
calling it a trap game it's right before the holiday other games around it I think like
Matt said with the gap here I don't think you sneak up on him in this one I thought the
caller said it's going to be a track game like fast pace and I was going to add Brown is one of
the slowest team they are very so it's not going to be a track meet uh they're going to slow
it down like we've seen a lot of teams they're very slow exactly what we don't want to
see they're slow they're physical they're
Thankfully, they're not athletic.
Ohio State killed us with athleticism.
I don't think Brown's going to kill us with athleticism.
But they do block shots.
I got to see how, who are these dudes that are 6-6 leading the country and blocked shots?
I got to see these guys, Drew.
I wrote down their starting line up.
It goes 6-foot, 6-foot, 6-4, 6-5, 6-7.
That's.
And they're one of the top of the...
I mean, how are they blocking shots?
It's impressive.
And the guy blocking the shots, they had a three-time captain, big guy,
go down right before the year.
Yeah.
And they didn't know how he was going to replace him.
And his name's Landon Lewis has stepped in.
And he's putting up crazy numbers and kind of a fill-in role.
He was on the team last year, played barely at all.
And he's been good for him.
He's one of the leaders.
They were an out-contender to be an outside top-25 candidate if that guy hadn't gotten hurt.
I mean, they thought they thought they could be good.
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Who's next?
Drew is up next.
Drew, go ahead, Drew.
Hey, hey, good day, gentlemen.
Matt, if you have mentioned this second, oh, forgive me.
But as far as the private equity, does that change tax incentives?
If you mentioned that, I'm sorry, just now able to tune in.
But as far as, like, people donating.
money or buying into the game, is there something that would cause people to do that quicker
than just giving to NIL?
Well, remember that when they changed the tax code the last time Trump was president,
they took away the, what do you call it, the incentive to give to athletic foundations.
You used to be able to write that money off.
And then when they did the, you can't do that anymore.
changed in like 2018 or 2019.
So I don't think it will change anything.
If you give to a university to like the general fund, you can get a tax write-off.
But if you give to the UK Athletic Department, it is now not a write-off anymore.
So I don't think that it would, I don't think it would make any difference.
Okay.
The reason I was wondering, I mean, if I'm rich enough to give millions of dollars or 500 grand,
and I'm losing that on a tax benefit.
You really have to trust a coach or a program to be able to do that.
All right, thanks, man.
I appreciate it.
No, you do.
I mean, the, like, I, you know, if you've listened to this show,
I'm a big believer in the revenue sharing, NIL.
I'm for all of it.
I think most of the whining about it is incorrect.
And I do think there's going to be a system put in place
that's actually going to make it significantly better.
But the reality is this is going to become the equivalent of a professional sport.
Yeah.
And as such, the way we look at it is going to be different, including for players.
You know, I saw there's a guy Indiana has Diallo or whatever.
He transferred from Arizona State.
He's not even playing.
And he missed a game.
He got spending for a game because he was late because he was at a bar the night before.
They're paying him $2 million.
Like people look at that differently, Ryan, when they're paying.
you $2 million, they start to look at it like a pro.
That's why you've talked a lot about eventually.
They just need some contracts.
You need something in writing where maybe if you don't show up for a game or you get
suspended, you don't get some of that money.
And they're at a player, they're fired up because he's like laughing on the bench and a clip.
So the fans are seeing this guy took millions from us.
Two million dollars.
And he's out the night for a game and cutting up on the bench.
So you're just going to start seeing a little more criticism involved too.
Yeah.
Expecting more of these guys.
You should expect your guy to not stay out of night for a game.
It is just going to be a different thing.
All right, so we're going to lose some people here now,
as we will lose a lot of the people, we will move to the pregame show.
If you are at one of our affiliates that does not take the pregame show,
you can go online right now to wlap.com, and you can hear we're going to shift to the pregame show.
We will be playing a best of for the last 30 minutes.
So let's do this.
I'll save the MVP, but do you feel good about a victory today?
I feel good about a victory, but I also think Brown will keep it close for a little while.
I think it'll be similar to Kansas.
It'll be close for a half, and then Kentucky will pull away.
Kentucky's had some slow starts, you know, and so I expected to be a relatively close game by halftime,
but Kentucky pulls out and wins it.
Yeah, I think this will be, I think it'll be a good game.
I think Kentucky's got a, Kentucky will win, but Kentucky's going to get challenged a lot of this game.
And I think this is, I'm really intrigued to watch this.
to see how I feel about the game on Saturday,
which I think Saturday, to me,
Saturday, like I've said,
is one of the two or three biggest games of the year.
We're going to take a break.
We'll be right back.
And then, well, it'll be a few minutes,
and then we'll be back for the pregame show.
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