KSR - 2025-01-16- KSR - Hour 2

Episode Date: January 16, 2025

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Starting point is 00:04:07 Let's talk for a second about Indiana. Wow. Students during the game the other night at Indiana were chanting Fire Woodson. Yeah. At Mike Woodson during the game in the first half. They were down at 1.40 in the game to Illinois. at home. They have, we were talking about big NIL rosters, they might have, along with Arkansas and
Starting point is 00:04:33 Kansas State, the biggest. They paid $2 million for Omar Diallo, who has been spotted before two games this year, once in a casino and once at a bar the night before the game. The second time, the first time he got warned, the second time he got suspended for a game. There's a play that's floating around the internet of him on a loose ball. just standing there. Like literally not even moving. It's one of the funniest things you'll ever see.
Starting point is 00:05:04 But it's not just him. The whole team stinks. You look at their schedule. It's going to be hard to see where they win games. Will Indiana basketball, Ryan, ever be good again and go ahead and say no? It's going to be tough, man. They thought hiring Mike Woodson, they were going to get what we're getting with Pope.
Starting point is 00:05:21 You know, former player, bring back the juice, you know, try to get the program back on its level. We got it with Pope. The Mike Woodson experiment has totally backfired on them. And they, you know, the fire, Woodson, like that would never happen in Rupp. No. I don't care who it was. I mean, people didn't chant that at Billy Gillespie. Like that would never.
Starting point is 00:05:40 For Indiana basketball to have people chanting fire the coach in the first half of a game, it was still the first half when they chanted it. It wasn't like a few loud people in the student section. That was a choir in assembly hall in unison, cheering. Fire Woodson. And then, I don't know the reporter, but they were in just the concourse of the mass exodus at some point in the game, maybe halftime. I mean, they were flooding out of that arena with a lot of time still on the clock. In the second half, like halfway through the second half, the student section was completely empty.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Like there was no one in the student section. They asked Woodson about it afterwards, and he was like, well, I hope we continue to get fan support. And I was like, continue? You know, I mean, it doesn't seem like you have it now. it is amazing to think that Indiana was once a power program because there are people like if you're in college listening to this you don't know that Indiana was ever
Starting point is 00:06:34 a power program right? Yeah but Mario probably didn't even remember Indiana being a power program. Name your most famous Indiana player Mario. Yogi Farrell that's the nose ball. But I just want you to think about that. He comes up with Yogi Farrell because okay who's the best Indiana player the last 20 years? Yogi Farrell, but that's what that's, I mean, it's been that long.
Starting point is 00:06:59 They don't know. They don't know Indiana as a basketball power at all. Josiah, and these guys' younger generation, they know them as losers. Oh, big time losers. Yeah. Like if you look at programs that are quote unquote blue blood, Indiana is the one that's had the success the farthest back. I mean, even Louisville, while they were terrible last few years, you know, mid-2010s very good. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Indiana's not been very good. It's Victor Oladipo and Cody Zeller team. That's probably the last time they had a good team. That team lost in the second round. They had the one Mike Davis team run to the finals. Yeah. You know, 2002. But that's it.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Otherwise, Indiana basketball, it is unbelievable to watch how they've fallen, especially when you're like us and grew up with Indiana being a top program every year. It's sad, actually. It really is. Indiana was one of the top three programs for 20, 25 years. Now it seems like it's a crazy thought to put them in that category. Kreen got them to like two Sweet 16s, beating Kentucky in one of them actually. But other than that, he missed the tournament like four years.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Miller was there. He didn't make the tournament. Before that, I had many years without making the tournament. They have just been forgotten. They had one really good team. And that's the team you were talking about, Cody Zeller and Victor Oladipo, and they got upset in the second round. But that's really the only really good team.
Starting point is 00:08:20 have had in 30 years, which is unbelievable. And you can't let it go on that long, because like you're saying, they have to go recruit these kids that don't even know they existed and had that tradition. Everyone just moves on. Who's up next? Brian and Franklin. Brian and Franklin, 859-280-2287. So this game concerns me a little bit, and the fact of we are everybody's Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:08:45 and so having said that assuming no not assuming I don't even want to go there I don't want to breathe that into that if it were to happen that say
Starting point is 00:09:00 uh Wagner hit the last second shot kind of like the Watford shot which fan base is going to give us the most crap is it going to be the Indiana fan base of past or is it going to
Starting point is 00:09:15 be the Arkansas fan base now. Indiana has nothing they can say. I mean, I'm not going to listen to an Indiana fan say anything. I appreciate the call. Arkansas will give us the most crap, but you know what? They're not making a tournament whether they beat us or not. I mean, they're just not. So, yeah, we want to win that game.
Starting point is 00:09:34 It'll stink if we lose. But it does not. Do you agree with me, Drew, even if we lost a game, it doesn't change the overall calculus of that this was the right thing to happen? No, not at all. I will wake up the next day, watch football, and by Wednesday of that week, moved on to the next SEC game. Yeah, I will too.
Starting point is 00:09:51 I completely agree with you. Because I'm so excited for the rest of this run, the SEC tournament, the NCAA tournament, I will not give Arkansas the pleasure of taking that joy for me. If they were good, if they were good and then won that game, then that's a little different. But they're not. So if we lose, it's a fluke. And that would kind of prove, I'm not already trying to make excuses if this would happen,
Starting point is 00:10:13 But it would, like I said, Amigo, it would be like, oh, yeah, John Caliperi won a regular season game to do anything else? Yeah, that was us for the last few years. We know that. Congratulations. We flexed after Auburn last year. Have your flex and then fizzle out. Yeah. Kentucky's still going to make the tournament, win or lose that game, and not affect them our postseason aspirations at all.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Yeah, I mean, they, to whatever extent, I had a lingering in the back of my mind worry that there would be a world where it could collapse and not make the tournament. That kind of went away with these back to play. I'm kind of with you. Bob and O against ranked teams is a pretty silly record. A heck of a resume. Yeah. By the way, somebody suggested that they think the exhibition game against a power team, that that will be how we play Patino in St. John's.
Starting point is 00:10:56 That makes a lot of sense. I think that's the right answer. Yeah. But would you play it in New York like they're talking about? I think you play the first one here in Lexington. I think Rick would want to come down. By the way, did you see the crowd Rick had for his game against Georgetown? Madison Square Garden full and rocking.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Like he has done. You've got to give him credit. He has done exactly what he said he wanted to do there. I mean, they were playing Georgetown at like, you know, regular, and they were, it was full and rocking. That's pretty cool. I didn't see it. But I recently watched that ESPN 30 for 30 about when the Big East was so good.
Starting point is 00:11:27 And that area just kind of needs the basketball to get back to where how it's he's like he's like 15 and 3 or 14 and 3. Like they're really good. Oh, yeah. They're a tournament team. Yeah. Well, you know they're going to be in our bracket too in the NCAA tournament probably. Bring them on.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Bring them on, Rick. Who's next? Shane from Grayson. Shane from Grayson. How are you? I'm doing good Hey I just got a
Starting point is 00:11:50 over and under question I'll say that one Does Mark Pope get ejected From any game this year And I'm going to say that two Tie me that Kentucky I don't think Mark Pope Ever gets ejected
Starting point is 00:12:05 I could see him getting a technical one day I appreciate the call I think he said he has one technical In his coaching career I just got more I did a deep dive I watched all of them Which ones you want to know about I wrote a post on this
Starting point is 00:12:15 last week. He slammed a water bottle one time and the top shot up and covered Radio Row in water and got teed up. I think even he realized I didn't mean to slam it that hard. He had like a look of shot off. How many does he have? He had two last year. He has one that's pretty bad. It was late in the game in the conference tournament about four years ago. Really? He argued at Kansas and got one and inspired the team. Even the story's written about it. It was like Mark Pope fuels BYU you come back because they went on like a 12-2 run right after it. It's hard to see him getting one though, isn't it? He almost got one the other night. Well, he did. say, oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:12:49 You know, I wouldn't be surprised if they teed him up. So, all right, does he get one then? I thought the answer was definitely no. Okay, so the over-underer's got to be 0.5. There's a difference that ejected in getting a teed. I agree, yes. I don't think he's been ejected. He's been teed quite a few times.
Starting point is 00:13:05 I could see him getting a technical, not ejected. That's where I. I cannot see him getting ejected. No. Now, I can see him getting a technical because we all have our money. moments, but I cannot see him getting ejected. That's just not happening. That's just not in his DNA, really.
Starting point is 00:13:22 By the way, some news here. Bob Euker has passed away. The longtime baseball announcer for the Milwaukee Brewers, Bob Eukert was still calling games last year. Most people know him, I'd say, Major League and the Miller-like commercials. But he was also a really good thing. baseball player and a great announcer. Back when I was like in the 2010s when they started to get where you could hear online the radio broadcasts of other teams, I would put Bob Yucer on,
Starting point is 00:14:01 even though I didn't care about the Brewers. I just like listening to him because I thought he was so funny and kind of one of a kind. Did the national like baseball, I mean, he was on the World Series a number of years there for NBC. One of the most. Colorful baseball people ever. He just was. And I think he really became start of on those Miller-like commercials. You know, hey, it must be in the front row. Must be in the front row.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Yeah, yeah. You know, that's why people got to know him. And then once they found him, he just, his star just really started to shine. He has one of the classic lines ever from Major League, just a bit outside. Just a bit outside. That's where I first learned of him. But over time, like when the Brewers would have those terrible seasons, he would not hold back. I'm talking about how bad they were.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Yeah. Yeah. That's a sad to see. I mean, he was, he was one, he was almost like Barclay in some ways. He may have been like the baseball Barkley in a lot of ways. Not afraid to say what was on his mind. And he also, I mean, his drinking in the booth is like legendary. Oh, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Him and Harry King. Oh, I'm all about that. Yeah, he would, there's some stories that like, let's say they were playing, you know, I don't know, the Padres or something. He would challenge the Padres announcer to go shot for shot with him. Oh, my. And then, like, it'd be the seventh inning, and the Padres announcer would, like, not be able to speak. And then Yucre would be like, eh, you know. We used to be a proper country.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Sounds like a great game. Who's up next? Let's go to Dubba. Dubba. Dubba. How are you, Dubba? Hey, doing good, fellas. How are y'all doing? Doing good. All right, I got two quick things for you.
Starting point is 00:15:37 First one, the second one's related to the first one on the Indiana and Arkansas thing. I just think that with NIL, you know, players have a little bit less, you know, motivation for how they're going to, the effort that they're going to put in unless they're being kept accountable somehow, you know? But why does I don't, I always, people keep saying that, and I don't understand why. Like, let me just, let me, like, take Omar Diallo. I guess if you're getting paid, you know. Yeah, but, but, like, everyone gets paid, like, in sports. Like, do you think, I say this a lot. Do you think Steph Curry doesn't try because he's getting paid?
Starting point is 00:16:19 No. No, but no, but that's the end of the – He's already made it to where he wants to go, I guess. You know, like these guys are – But all the more reason to keep trying is if you haven't – If you're Omar Diallo, let's say you're getting $2 million. All right. After taxes, what we talk about, $1.2 million, maybe $1.1.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Okay, so now you're sitting there with $1.1. Do you want to play basketball the rest of your life or not? that 1.1 is not going to set you for life. So if you want to play basketball the rest of your life, man, you better be good. You better keep performing. I mean, this idea that, like, you would get one paycheck and stop, maybe, I appreciate the call, but that's just because you're the kind of person who might not be very motivated anyway, right? Yeah, if I've been playing basketball since I was a toddler, and then someone starts paying me for it,
Starting point is 00:17:07 I'm going to go, I want to keep playing basketball. I want to get even better. This money's nice. I want more of it. I want this to be my career. I wouldn't go, oh, I've got a check. I'm done playing basketball now. Think about Travis Kelsey.
Starting point is 00:17:18 How much money he's made. He's got a $125 million podcast deal. He's going to probably marry the richest singer in the world. And yet, when you hear him talk about the playoffs, he's like, I'm going to destroy them. He almost killed Andy Reid on the sideline last year. So people who are motivated are motivated either way. And if you're not, Ryan, then you're not. And I guess there's just certain situations like the Diallo kid from Indiana, the kid in Arkansas,
Starting point is 00:17:47 but we had a couple of football players here that I think kind of fell in that trap where... Okay. Well, you know what? Your job is to search those people out and get rid of them. But the idea that players in general wouldn't be... I agree. I mean, our dudes this year, they're making... I'd say everyone in the rotation is making hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Starting point is 00:18:06 All of them. Do you get the sense they're not trying? Absolutely not. I don't. trying more so. They're competitors, and they want more hundreds of thousands of thousands. That's exactly right. You know, I mean, well, if I was Elon Musk, I'd retire.
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Starting point is 00:22:53 Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHart Women's Sports. Welcome back, Tucky Sports Radio. One of the things we forgot about Bob Yucer, he was on Mr. Belvedere. Was one of the stars of Mr. Belvedere. You got to play the next segment, Shannon, the theme song to Mr. Belvedere. Okay. Streaks on the China Never let him before
Starting point is 00:23:15 Who cares? Mr. Belvedere fans No, I don't know why I remember that. Like, I haven't thought about that song in 20 years, but I think it says, Streaks on the China, Never Madem before. Who cares?
Starting point is 00:23:27 I had completely forgotten about Mr. You pulled that out of nowhere. Well, somebody wrote me. I wouldn't know. He was George Owens on Mr. Belvedere. Yeah, he was like the comic relief guy on Mr. Bollinger. I think he was maybe the dad.
Starting point is 00:23:41 the dad. And Mr. Belvedere was the housekeeper. You know, I both said it sounds like a show Shannon would have watched. It's like kind of his... I'm surprised he didn't watch. All right, so let's talk about... I want... You know, you have often talked about running for mayor of Lexington, right? Yes. All right. So, people need to know
Starting point is 00:23:57 the positions of their future mayor. Have you seen what's happening in New York with the congestion pricing? Tell me about it. All right, so New York passed, you know, there was too many cars in New York. Too much traffic. If you try to drive in New York city, like it was a cluster. So in the order to encourage people to take the subway, to walk, to find alternate forms, they created a $9 congestion pricing. Basically, if you cross in the city
Starting point is 00:24:24 at various places, it's $9. Okay? And it's had a pretty strong impact. Like there aren't as many cars on the streets, which is allowing it to be easier for people to walk, more people are taking the subway, et cetera. But there are people who say, you know, I want to be able to drive my car. You should never drive your car in New York City unless you have to, because even just parking is like $50. But there were people complaining some people like it. So here's my question for you.
Starting point is 00:24:52 We all know Lexington traffic is terrible. Awful. Absolutely terrible. Would you be in favor of at a couple of places in Lexington where it's particularly bad, maybe out there on Nicholsville Road, maybe out Newtown, pike at four or five o'clock, would you be favor for like a $1 or $2 congestion pricing to try to like make it to where it encourages people to do find other ways or and also raises money for the city?
Starting point is 00:25:24 What do you think about congestion pricing in a limined administration? Hearing it for the first time, I'm thinking to myself, I don't think I would go for that. Why? Well, we don't have a subway or other means of transportation, so we'd have to do lifts or ubers and things like that. So I think my initial reaction would be no. We do have buses. Yeah, we do have buses.
Starting point is 00:25:43 That is an interesting point. We don't have subways. So that does make it a little different. But so you would say no. I would say no. What if I could show you a study? I'm not saying I can. That would say there'd be 25% less traffic in Lexington if you did that.
Starting point is 00:25:59 And you brought up a good point. You said it does raise money for maybe other things the city can use, you know. Like maybe better bus service. Yeah. if if oh here we go if we ever did it i think i would just put it on three roads what three roads hillsville road newtown pike winchester road that seems to be the major arteries that backs up during rush hour so you put it on those three roads just on those three roads do you think a dollar or two dollars would be enough to encourage you not to drive or would people just still do it and just pay the dollar
Starting point is 00:26:31 yeah i think most people would like i'm not i'm just going to drive myself i don't think that's going to do it. What about you? Yeah, we don't have the public transportation and being a walking city, I think, to enforce that. I think that'd be a bad idea. Winchester Row or Ryan saw what people walking, because the big part of the reason New York did it too is a lot of pedestrians just everywhere and too many cars. We already have a lot of people walking without sidewalks out that way as it is. I think you've got to be, if you're going to enforce that, your public transportation and your walking areas have to be built up enough to do it. We should say something about that. Winchester Road. I don't know how many of you all drive on Winchester Road. Every day. But we're
Starting point is 00:27:06 Winchester Road is like Grand Theft Auto. I mean, there are people walking across the street and like running across the highway. And you're right. There are no sidewalks, which makes it a little hard. Crosswalks are bad. So they just try to sprint across. I mean, Winchester Road is like dangerous. And I don't really know what you can do about it.
Starting point is 00:27:30 But some of those sections like New Circle and then the inner. It is just chaos during the day. Even at night. One of the news stations, and I'm sorry I don't remember if it was Channel 18 or Channel 27, did a investigation about all these people getting hit by cars on Winchester Road. Like in the past year, Drew can tell you this, man, it's been like two dozen. It's been crazy. I've been looking dead ahead, paying attention, not on the phone, not listen to music,
Starting point is 00:27:59 driving just like I'm supposed to, and you will have a person walk out. sadly you know you have people out there pushing shopping cars that don't really have a place to go i mean they will just step out in front of you on and because it's hilly it can be blind sometimes and you can't see them see them there it's that's that's a that is a very dangerous The answer, we've got to be a little better at getting people around if we're going to take away cars, at least in our area. In New York, I kind of get it, though. Yeah, I think it's – people were very mad when it first started, but now a lot of people in New York are like, hey, there aren't as many cars. This is good. In New York, I think they probably should have cleaned the subways before announcing it.
Starting point is 00:28:32 They announced it like two days after that woman was like on fire. Yeah, that's a problem. They should have made it a little better before doing it. Who's up next? Jason. Jason. Go ahead, Jason. 859-2-80-2287.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Yeah, two quick comment. answer questions. Can we name a player in the last 20 or 25 years that Cal has recruited and developed into a NBA player or draft pick that wasn't already going to be drafted? Yeah, no, there's definitely dudes. I mean, he made Shea Alexander a lot better. He made Tyler Hero a lot better than he came in. For all my criticisms of Cal, they were definitely guys. They were definitely guys. he made better during their time here. Devin Booker was not Devin Booker when he came out of high school. I mean, there were a bunch of those guys.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Second point. What would be a greater accomplishment this year or harder accomplishment, winning the SEC regular season and tournament title or winning the NCAA championship? Great question. I'll answer it right after this. T.J. Smith, personal injury attorney. TJ. He'll make them pay.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Now, more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones. Yeah. The door. How did you remember this? How about remembering the first line? Yeah. No one.
Starting point is 00:30:04 I can't believe I remember this. I can't either. When was the last time I watched the show? 30 years ago? It's not like it's, I mean, I... And it wasn't on very long. And it's not like it's on a streaming service. This is the one that's had to come back.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Yeah. I mean, it's not like the office that people still watch. I don't know how in the world I remember this. I'm going to find it when I get home, though. I know that. What were at, like, can you think of shows like Mr. Belvedere that, like, no one talks about, but you watch this? Like, I'll tell you one, perfect strangers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:33 There's a show that you haven't seen in, with cousin Larry and Balkie. I remember that show? Yeah. I have a show that I thought I made up in my head because no one talks about it anymore. But you all remember, I'm a little younger, but Don. dinosaurs that was on like the Friday night NBC they were like they were just big dinosaurs yeah I loved it I have no idea what you're talking about I do I remember it I remember it not the mama that little baby yeah yeah I
Starting point is 00:31:01 remember that oh they were like claymation dinosaurs yeah it wasn't real I love that show they didn't use actual dinosaurs because that was just a sitcom yeah I think Shannon's impersonation they nailed it for me the Sinclair's that was their name oh wow look at that's quite a lot yes Look at us. What are other big shows that just have no shelf life lighter? Like, I'll give you one. The Wonder Years was a huge show.
Starting point is 00:31:28 When's the last time you've seen that? They made a remake, didn't they? Wasn't it terrible? Maybe. But, like, Full House and some of those shows, Urkel, you still hear people sometimes mention them. But, like, the Wonder Years is just following. Like, no one, no one ever mentions that. Is there any more you could think of like that?
Starting point is 00:31:43 Valerie Harper. Do you know who that is? Valerie. No, Arbor? Had a show called Valer. and then it was the Hogan family later. I remember Valerie and the Hogan family. I remember both of those and no one talks about those at all.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Family ties. Family ties. Michael J. Fox. When's the last time you've heard, I mean, people know Michael J. Fox, but when's the last time you've heard somebody talk about family ties? Well, what was a spin-off of family ties of the lady who had the school for girls? Oh, Facts of Life. Facts of Life. Oh, I love.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Now, there's a theme song. Yeah. Shannon, that's going to be the next segment. Take the good, you take the badge, you take them both, and there you have the facts of life, the facts of life. There's a time you got a bird about a bee-b-b-bop-bo-doop doop. Facts of life. All right, there you go. Different strokes.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Yeah, different strokes. That still comes on sometimes. Does it? You remember the characters on the facts of life? Tudy. Tudy. Blair. Blair.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Natalie. Natalie. Natalie. And who wrote the motorcycle? Joe. Joe, yeah. It is a shame that I remember this. Like literally my brain should have something else in it except the characters on the facts of life.
Starting point is 00:32:58 What was the headmaster's name, Mrs. Garrett? Garrett, yes. That was a spinoff of different strokes. Different strokes. Because Mrs. Garrett was Arnold and Willis, which you talk about Willis' housekeeper. All right, we need to move on before I make myself any more sad. So there's a new website that's started called FanStake. Have you seen this?
Starting point is 00:33:22 No. I don't really understand how this is legal, and it may not be legal. But basically a recruit signs up with Fan Steak, and fans can contribute money. It looks like to try to get the kid to come to their school. Have you seen this? No. So I think Caleb Wilson has it. I don't know if he officially signed up for it.
Starting point is 00:33:46 I'm not sure. But literally, teams, their fan base can give money, and I don't know if the kid gets it or not. Now, we are not, our people have not signed up yet. I am not encouraging people to do it, right? Because I don't know anything about it. But it is, like North Carolina, their fans have put in a decent little chunk of money for Caleb Wilson.
Starting point is 00:34:10 You think this is the future? Like fans basically bid on the players? It just seems so wrong from what we had for so many years And I hate that fans are the ones having a fork moreover But I mean it seems like it's heading that direction And I think the kid only gets it If he picks the school Picks that school
Starting point is 00:34:28 So like the money gets refunded Unless the kid Picks the school that you went to I mean it's not illegal at the moment So I can see why this is the thing starting to happen It's strange though It is very it doesn't feel right But it does not feel right
Starting point is 00:34:43 You used to have to put $100 in a program and roll it up and hand it to them as they're walking out of the arena. Now you can just pull up your phone and Venmo it to them, it seems like. Yeah. So I don't, I wonder if it'll be something that catches on. There's a handful of recruits on it. Caleb Wilson is one up.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Now, Caleb Wilson apparently is going to announce next week. Are we going to get him? It's looked good the whole way for a long time. And then every once in a while, a story will pop up that North Carolina's in the mix. It's like, is that a smokescreen or is you really having second thoughts? In my brain, I'm still pretty
Starting point is 00:35:14 confident. I haven't heard anything that's changed recently. I think the timeline, he was put it out today. I don't know if we have the exact date or anything yet, but it's around the corner and I'm feeling good about it. I've thought that for a long time. Got a little scuttle butt on Caleb Wilson. Uh-oh. Here we go, Shannon. I don't think it's really
Starting point is 00:35:30 big, though. So you don't think, so this is not scoop, this is scuttle butt. All right, scuttle butt. That Caleb Wilson has already agreed to his NIL deal with Kentucky but he may have done that, North Carolina. He may have cut his NIL deal in place at all these schools, but he's definitely got this deal in place with Kentucky.
Starting point is 00:35:45 So you, now that sounds like Scoop. Is it Scoop or Scuttlebutt that he has his deal in place with Kentucky? I would say, uh, scoop. Okay, so you're scooping. Yeah. So you're. But like I said, he may have this deal in place with all these schools. He might.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Yeah. But you're scooping that he has his NIL deal set with Kentucky. Yes. All right. Yeah. There you go. Ryan Limmon. When he's confident, usually correct.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Yeah, I'm just hoping he's consistent. And I don't know if that makes any difference of him picking Kentucky. Okay. But they've got an idea, deal agreement in place. All right. Who's up next? Derek. Derek, go ahead, Derek.
Starting point is 00:36:26 What's up, guys? What's going on? Are you there? Yes. Oh, not a whole lot. I wanted to make a comment. I'm so glad that Cal's not here this year. And, you know, how miserable would we be right now if he was our coach?
Starting point is 00:36:44 and our record would probably be seven losses right now. And I wanted to tell you a little story that this summer, I went to a man's camp for church or retreat, and there was about 30 Arkansas guys in August. And they were pounding their chest, and they were jabbing all to Kentucky people about how great they were going to be and how stupid we were and how we ran him off.
Starting point is 00:37:08 And it was miserable, but I can't wait for next aug. I can't wait for this August. Yeah, well, yeah. I mean, when you, so what is a man's camp? It's just where a bunch of Christian from all over the United States. Or something like that. Yeah, yeah. Like a retreat.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Yeah. Yeah. Okay, gotcha. Yeah. All right, cool. Well, I appreciate the call. You will certainly have something to say to them this year. There were a lot of Arkansas fans puffing their chest.
Starting point is 00:37:33 But you know what? When you puff your chest, you have to be ready when somebody comes and puts a pin in it and deflights it. There's a video going around. It's mostly college kids because the language is very vulgar. But, I mean, they are just dancing on Kentucky about how they're bragging about being NBA you and taking the goat and look at them now. Can I give you some more shows? Yes. Coach.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Loved coach. We just played the team in basketball. We did. Minnesota State. Coach, do you remember who coach's assistant was the dumb guy? It was Dick Van Dyke's brother. No. No, that's one of the young dumb guy.
Starting point is 00:38:05 What was his character? Start with a D. D. Dhabber. Dobber. Well done. Give me a break. Give me a break.
Starting point is 00:38:11 It's a good one. Who, do you know the woman that's the woman that's Garden, give me a break. I can see her face. Okay, but what's her name? Come on now. You're doing well with this. I can't think of it.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Nell Carter. Yes, I couldn't think of her name. Neil Carter. Silver Spoons. Ricky Schroeder. And Alfonso. Yes, that's how Alfonso with the Carlton dance. That's where he got to start.
Starting point is 00:38:37 What does everybody always say about Silver Spoons? What was the coolest part of Silver Spoons? His train. The train. The train. He rode the train through the house. That was great, right? Wow.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Taking us back to our childhood. I love these shows. Yes. 227. I don't know that one. 227. Amen. Did you not watch Saturday nights with all the amen about the black church?
Starting point is 00:39:02 I don't remember this one. Man, you were not culture. You guys are home on Saturday night. I'm out on dates on Saturday night. Are you? I was watching Fraggle Rock at the time. Oh, that's a good one. How about Webster?
Starting point is 00:39:13 Oh, I love Webster. And then, of course, Shannon knows Al. The best. Growing Pains? Yes. Charles in Charge? Yes. Punkie Brewster.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Yes. Have you seen her lately? Bown chick-a-pong-pong. Just saying. You're going to make me have to stop going over this if you're going to sit here and talk about the Punky Brewster. Punky Brewster grew up. Gosh.
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Starting point is 00:39:59 You can get a warranty that's better than anywhere around the state. It is Don Franklin Auto.com. Blossom, Shannon, was also good. Do you remember one of the stars of Blossom? Never watched it. Anybody know the names of the stars of Boston? I'm looking right at Blossom with her hat. I am Ballack.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Miami. There you go. And then who was on that show? Whoa. Oh, yeah. Joey Lawrence. Joey Lawrence. Well done.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Whoa, I didn't know until you said that. A lot of younger people have no idea what we're talking about. We're not getting old. We'll take a break. Be right back. This KSR. Last night, a blown call changed the game. This morning, the internet lost its mind.
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Starting point is 00:44:51 What a great show. You believe in what you believe. There you go. That's enough of that. 8.59. No, wait a minute. Okay. I just thought of something.
Starting point is 00:44:58 George Clooney on that show for a while? For like a, for yes. Yes, he was. No, there were people who got big start. Like, George Clooney started on Facts of Life. Leonardo DiCaprio started on Growing Pain. Growing Pain. He was like he lived upstairs.
Starting point is 00:45:13 I don't remember what the reason was he lived there, but he lived upstairs. Those are two major actors start on really bad television shows. Really great television shows. I love growing pains. I was a big fan of that one. 859-28027. Little piece of news we didn't get to. The portal has changed for college football.
Starting point is 00:45:32 They are now moving the date that you can transfer back until after the bowl games. So there will be a 10-day period. after the semifinals. So it would be like right now. Yeah. They're moving a 10-day period after the semifinals would be the only times you can get in and out of the portal, which means before that you can't do it.
Starting point is 00:45:53 And the teams will only have 10 days. And really, it's better for everybody except the two teams playing in the national championship because the two teams playing in the national championship will both have to get their portal class and get ready for the national championship. But 10 days, and they're switching it to January and basically, You know, some schools are already in session and you'll just have to start late. But it's a good idea.
Starting point is 00:46:15 I mean, I think this is good. The hope is that you don't get all these opt-outs for bowls like you've had these last few years. Yeah, I mean, it's been almost two months since the season ended. And it feels like the portal stuff has been so fast-paced over the course of two months. Now we're just going to shrink it into. Yeah, it's going to be a big ten days. I mean, literally, they will have to enter the portal and decide where they're going in ten days. And, you know, these schools and players won't talk to each other before that 10-day window.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Of course not. You're going to have to be ready as soon as that date hits. Yeah, I'm sure they'll probably talk at least a little bit. But that's, I think that's probably, I think that's a good change. I think that'll make it a bit easier. I definitely think the change moving it where they have, you know, after all the bowl games is definitely a must-needed. But I think they should have expanded it more than 10 days. These kids, if you're considering four schools, the problem you have is these semesters start at these colleges.
Starting point is 00:47:04 So, like, part of the reason they have to do 10 days is, you know, some colleges that will have been in session for a week or two. and you actually do have to get these people enrolled. So I think they felt like the 10 days was the amount of time where you could get enrolled at every school if you needed to do it. Kentucky's still trying to add to its roster right now, and it's January 16th. I mean, we can't pull the Big Z move with every player and just let them start school, you know, two months into semester.
Starting point is 00:47:28 That was amazing with the Big Z. Like he started in what, like mid-October? I mean, he sat down for the midterm. Yeah, that was, that was, you know, next to the Randolph-Morse Fax. That was one of the bigger ones I think we pulled in a long time. Who's next? Syndicate done.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Syndicate done. How are you? I'm doing great. I had no, I had no quote that Ryan wanted to be mayor of Lexington. Is that true? He does. I mean, he's taking some stances that will make it hard for him, like that he wants to tear down all of Nicholsville Road to get rid of the traffic. But nevertheless, he does, I think, at some point, want to be mayor.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Well, what's really cool about that right now, guys, is I'm at the Kentucky League of Cities Conference here at Embassy. in Lexington and all the mayors and all the city councilmen through the whole state of Kentucky is right here right now with us well there you go ryan you should go start to yeah right i'm just going to show up right now by running pants and hoodie and just kind of walk around and meet and greet and shake some hands well you'll be official member well the reason why i was calling though guys is i'm kind of not upset i'm kind of heard about all the stuff that's going on with cow the losing of the games uh the way that the fans now his own fans and his own fans have been turned on him right now.
Starting point is 00:48:42 And I'm just reaching out to all the UK fans is that when he comes here to Kentucky, that we don't give him a hard time. That we just welcome him, man. I'd be like a big brother to him. And, I mean, he's still a man at the end of the day. And I imagine what he's going through. It's got to be paying.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Listen, I get what you're saying. But when you say, imagine what he's going through, the dude is making $8 or $9 million a year. Like, I'm sorry for him that it's probably difficult. but like he'll be all right. You know, when you talk about what people are going through, there's a lot of people going through a lot harder things than Cal. So like while I get what you're saying, like he'll be fine.
Starting point is 00:49:21 You know, he made decision. He can also leave. It's not like he's in a job that he can't get out of. If he wants to leave, he can. So, you know, I know what it feels weird for people to feel like they do because we had so many good memories with him. But I also think, and I appreciate the call, a lot of people don't realize what the last two or three years were like.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Think about it. Think about how many people left that staff and that office and how many really good people felt like they just couldn't be around it anymore. And then no offense, look at who followed him there. Those are the only people who couldn't do anything else. I mean, like it was not. there are a lot of people that have a reason to feel like they feel. Now, I'm not saying that means we should wish ill on him.
Starting point is 00:50:14 I don't think you should do that for anyone. But, Drew, I get it. And I have a nice life, but I just want you to lose basketball games. You know, wish you good health. Me too. Family's good. Yes. You know, everything hopes good.
Starting point is 00:50:28 I just want you to lose basketball games. It's basketball. You'll be right. Yeah, you know, Pat Kelsey seems like a great guy. Seems like I bet if he came here, he and I would get along really well. I want him to lose every single time he plays, and I hope he is sad after every game. That's sports. Calipari could have just stepped away and not coached anybody,
Starting point is 00:50:48 but he chose to coach one of our rivals in our conference that we play every year. Of course we're going to come after him when he comes in. But we are thankful for that. Yes. John Tyson should be the Y on February 1st. He should. Now, what if we did that? What if we showed his – that would be really mean.
Starting point is 00:51:04 But if when we came to the Y, we just showed a picture. of John Tyson, like had the Tyson thing and he's the Y. Or maybe we just spell Tyson. We have our Y be right after the T instead of spelling Kentucky. I mean, that would be pretty mean. But who's next? Riannon. Riannon, I got about a minute.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Go ahead. My boyfriend loves this podcast. So can you say, hey, Ethan? Hey, Ethan. Okay, thanks. Bye. All right, now I can't ever do that again. If you're just going to call and say, hey, Ethan, I'm not going to be able to do that.
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Starting point is 00:52:19 We thank you very much at godspatry.org, helping feed insecure counties here in Kentucky. Thanks to you guys very much. Nice to see you all. All right, they're leaving. That's okay. It's good to see. We're just trying to say goodbye.
Starting point is 00:52:32 I just trying to say goodbye because he was good. Tomorrow we're at bespoken spirit. Yes. Gray Line Station. Yep. That was a lot of fun last week. Was a lot of fun. Yeah, running it back a week later. Yes.
Starting point is 00:52:43 And you're going to give away some tickets. And when I left, you were still drinking bourbon. So I like to learn more about bourbon. Yeah, that's right. I'm going to give away tickets. By the way, be watching online as I continue to give finalists for the $4,000 on Monday here at the bar during the game. That's awesome. That's going to be exciting Monday night here for the big game.
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