KSR - 2025-01-27- KSR - Hour 1

Episode Date: January 27, 2025

Matt, Ryan, Drew, and Shannon talk UK's loss to Vanderbilt, Chiefs and Eagles back in the Super Bowl, and the latest news from the weekend.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:03:18 I guess you guys are in Lexington, Ryan and Drew, is that right, in studio? Yep, we're in studio and Lexington. What kind of day do we have there? Because that's what most of Kentucky is experiencing. I think it's one of the better days we've had. since probably November. It's actually a nice day outside. Yeah, it looks nice.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Well, you can give us a shout on the Clark's Puppet Shop phone line. I love to hear your thoughts on Kentucky fans have been sort of a topic of conversation with the game Saturday. And what's coming up next Saturday, you can give a shout 859-2-80-2287. A-Vision auto-glass text machine is 772-724-5-254 in this edition sponsor about a T. T.J. Smith Law Office, you call T. He'll make them pay. I guess two big stories obviously the cats lose to Vandy. A very disappointing loss to me, 7469 in Nashville.
Starting point is 00:04:09 And then, of course, last night you got the two teams headed to the Super Bowl, the Eagles and the Chiefs. We'll postpone that for a little while. Start with Kentucky. Drew, you were, well, no, neither one of you went to Nashville, right? Did not. You were in Nashville. Yeah, you guys were not in Nashville.
Starting point is 00:04:25 So you were in Lexington. I sort of gave my initial take on the game, on the postgame show, disappointed in the execution down the stretch, kind of, you know, just for 10 minutes, the first 10 minutes of second half, I thought Kentucky played amazing. And then I thought for the other 30 minutes, really a clunker and some poor effort and just frustration. I guess Ryan, then, Drew, I'll go to you before I go to the guy who won, his best. Vanderbilt team, Shannon, what did you guys think of Saturday? I kind of went with you, had two kind of big takeaways. One, if this team's not going to score 70 points, they're going to have hard time beating anybody.
Starting point is 00:05:08 I mean, it's just so when they're struggling offensively, they're very vulnerable. Four of our five losses haven't scored 70. That's amazing to me for a team that, like, you know, second or third in the country in points. Yeah, proof right there. Second thing was, man, turnovers killed them. They had a couple really costly turnovers late in the game that, by Lamont Butler had a bad turnover late in the game that kind of cost him.
Starting point is 00:05:30 But then the 13 turnovers in the first half, that allowed Vanity going that big run, was it, 20 to 4 in that first half where Kentucky just looked really bad? Yeah, they had, what, 13 turnovers in the first half? Only four in the second half, but Drew, they felt really important. And, you know, I remember one of things Cal used to always talk about is turnovers behind the three-point line, because they often lead to layups or easy baskets.
Starting point is 00:05:55 and we ended up doing some of those there at the end as well. Yeah, I was pretty disappointed that, one, it was the, I think the first half was the worst half of the season. What were they down? 14 points at halftime. They just looked terrible when really I thought Vandy kind of played into UK's style right away. I was surprised UK didn't play better than that first half. But then I was upset they tricked me because when they took the lead and they got up
Starting point is 00:06:18 pretty big in the second half, I just took a sigh of relief and thought, well, this is over. Kentucky's got this. Write the story. Another bad first half. collected data, figured out in the second, went on a run and won. But then I was shocked that they gave that away once they did get that second half lead and just disappointing down the stretch. Yeah, went from 14 down at halftime to 7 up in the second half with eight minutes to go.
Starting point is 00:06:41 I mean, in a 12-minute stretch, they beat Vandy by 21. And if you do that, I mean, in most games, you're going to certainly win. But that also gives you a sense of how poorly they played. I mean, if you take away that run, basically going from up 14 or excuse me down 14 to up seven in the other 28 minutes of the game Ryan we lost by 26 points right so if you take the 14 minutes or excuse me the 20 minutes of the first half and the last eight minutes of the second half we lost by 28 points 14 points I mean we lost by 14 in the last eight minutes of the game I mean that's a yeah that's that's really
Starting point is 00:07:24 really bad, Ryan, for a team, I don't care who you're playing, but certainly playing bandy. And I got to admit, it felt like it at time Kentucky was getting beat that bad. Like, they were just getting pumbled, like getting beat 20 points most of the game. It just felt like even down 14, it shouldn't have been that close. Yeah, I kind of agree with you. So, you know, you made the point, Drew, about how at the beginning they were playing our style.
Starting point is 00:07:47 I thought that too, and you had Edwards for Vanity get hot there at the beginning, kind of kept them in the game. you know, the surprising part to me was down the stretch how poorly we executed. You know, they hit back to back three. To me, the key sequence of the game absent the Butler turnover and the O-WA turnover was when we got up seven, they came down, Drew, and hit a three that I think if they don't score on that possession, we win the game. They hit a three.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Then we come down, we get a good look. Butler has a layup under the basket. he misses it, it falls in Amari's hands, and Amari just drops the ball, which, man, I mean, I feel like he has hands of stone. He just dropped the ball. We go to a TV timeout. When they come out of the timeout, they get another three, and it goes from seven to one. And that sequence, if they were to miss those shots, Butler makes that layup, or even if Amari had just caught the ball, he had a dunk if he caught it, I felt like that. sequence was a huge one in the game.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Yeah, just like in many other of the losses, it just felt like Kentucky had this opportunity right in front of them, they didn't seize the moment. And on the other end, in this case, Vandy's hitting shots. I don't think they'd normally hit. We saw another Banked in 3. I don't think if there's another Banked in 3,
Starting point is 00:09:09 just stop the game and go home. Get on the plane. We're 0 and 5. Someone got the guys on the post game show, every single loss this year, every single loss is included a banked in 3. Drew, that's just ridiculous. And late in the game, to these guys' credits,
Starting point is 00:09:26 but Vandy's big guys were hitting threes. When you've got a guy that wears the number 99 and he's hitting threes late in the game, you're in trouble. But still, they're all point guards. The fact that a point guard hit a three. The fact that McLaughton and Kerry, I guess, where they end up hitting four together,
Starting point is 00:09:45 I don't think you can't expect of that. And that's just another. The guy they had listed, Pope said after the game that the part that because you're right your goober coach and calls everybody a point guard although i think he might be good why can't you bring stackhouse back can you not get him to come back for another year or bryce drew would be even worse i always felt pretty good with uh with stackhouse but he but pope said that they wanted to give vandy give their centers open looks at three and and right apparently they went five of nine so that you know i'm sure they were playing the numbers there
Starting point is 00:10:17 Ryan, but it didn't work out for him. Yeah, they're hitting everything they throw up, and we're struggling again offensively. I mean, we saw some guys really struggle offensively. I'm, you know, I'm beginning to think that the butler's hurt a lot worse than we think he is because, man, he just didn't look himself. Without O'O.A., they would have really been in trouble. Well, let's talk about the injury component, because you have,
Starting point is 00:10:38 all right, Carr was out, and if you listen, Drew, to the post-game comments, it sounds like he might be out a bit. Pope said he felt like that he had not done car well in terms of playing him. The insinuation, I don't know the exact wording he used, but the insinuation was maybe they'd been playing him when they shouldn't have. And it sounded to me like Drew, we might expect him to not play for a period of time. Did you take it like that? Yeah, I think most people did.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Those were pretty deflating comments from Pope. he all but said don't expect him soon. He said, I've probably done a bad job with Carr and how he's playing. I mean, Carr wanting to get back. It sounded like they wish they'd been resting him longer. But I'm with you. Those comments, I don't, we don't know anything, but I don't expect to see Carr for a while. Pope was not talking like a dude that's about ready to see a car back in the starting lineup.
Starting point is 00:11:35 And then Butler, I mean, I think if we're honest, Ryan, Butler's been really bad the last two games. I mean, I think he was really bad against Alabama. I think he really struggled against. Vandy. Now, some commenter online wrote something like, I feel like he's been hurt, and then his dad retweeted it. So his dad sort of almost confirmed he's been hurt, and you can see him during the game kind of playing with his shoulder, like almost like it feels like trying to put it back in the place. What's uncharacteristic to me are the turnovers. I mean, the getting
Starting point is 00:12:16 pocket picked. That's bad, but I guess that happens. But I didn't understand the trying to force feed the ball. It looked like Popin called timeout. They had a play set up. The play required Amari to get the ball at the top of the key. And when that was cut off, Buller was like, I'm forcing that ball no matter what. And that led to a turnover that Ryan, those two turnovers were crucial. O.A's was bad, but I mean, at least O'A was trying to get to the basket. Those two by Butler were before they'd even run any offense at all. Yeah, that's why I think it's a fair conversation to have is he really banged up where it's messing with him because there was a point in the game against Vandy too
Starting point is 00:12:55 where he stuck his left arm out to try to deflect a ball and then he just left that left arm hang for about 10, 15 seconds. You could tell he probably tweaked it or something because he just didn't even move it for like 10 or 15 seconds. So I think there's something to that. But, you know, they're so thin right now on the bench. if cars out and curs out, you know. Pope tried to play some different guys,
Starting point is 00:13:15 but some guys just really weren't ready to play, I don't think. There were some lineups there in the first half. Drew, we can't go back to some of them. You're right. You're right. I mean, Colin Chandler, you know, I hope there's still a time that kid can play here because I think he's very talented.
Starting point is 00:13:32 This is not that time. I mean, he looked scared to death. And that lineup at the end of the first half, you know, at one point they have, like Noah, Chandler, Brea, and Olmanor in at the same time. And honestly, Shannon,
Starting point is 00:13:52 the four of us might have been the same defensively for us during that period of time. I mean, I'm not, there was a period at the end of the first half. We looked like a high school team. I mean, it was, it was not, just in terms of the sloppiness and Vandy took advantage that whole time. If we weren't on radio, I'd tell you what I said when I left,
Starting point is 00:14:09 because I had to pick up a pizza. And when I came back, I only missed a few minutes. And I looked up and all those guys were on the court. And I just thought, what in the world has happened that this lineup is in? And unfortunately, we saw pretty quickly another piece of evidence that it's just not time for Chandler to be on the court. I mean, long term, I think he's got it in him eventually. But the two years off and whatever else is going into that, he just can't be out there right now. And that was pretty clear the moment he got in.
Starting point is 00:14:33 I'm really surprised. I mean, we've seen with Travis Perry and Trit Noah, Ryan, they've both had moments. I mean, I thought Trent Noah played pretty well. At Vandy, I'm not exactly sure why Pope put him in on that final defensive play because that didn't work. But I actually thought he hustled. He played hard. He actually would get physical, whereas I think a lot of our guys were avoiding contact. And we've had some moments with Travis Perry this year where I thought he's looked good.
Starting point is 00:14:59 I didn't think Saturday was one of them. But he's had some moments where he's looked good. But for whatever reason, Colin Chandler just, I mean, except for the blue white game, we really haven't seen anything that suggests that he can play here yet. Yeah, Trent has slowly been earning some quality minutes. I think he's getting confidence in himself and Pope is getting confidence in him. I think they have confidence in Travis Perry. But what you've seen from Chandler, I mean, I don't know how you could feel good about putting him out there.
Starting point is 00:15:26 I mean, to be honest, Matt, the game played out exactly the way Shan the dude told us it was going to on Friday. I mean, it played out kind of exactly what he said. I mean, you know, it made me look like a genius. What did you say? Well, I said, Vandy wins. No, I said, first of all, if Vandy wins, they have to create points off
Starting point is 00:15:45 turnovers, which they did. I said, Vandy would not match Kentucky shot for shot. Kentucky percentage wise, outshot Vandy. They did. And we out rebounded you, didn't we? And then finally, I said, if Vandy gets a big lead, don't worry
Starting point is 00:15:59 about it, because they'll blow it, and they did. I didn't think they would come back from down seven. I thought at that point the game was over. Kentucky had it. But credit to Vandy for coming back. down seven. Yeah, I mean, that's part of the reason you should win. You outshot them. You out rebounded them and you came back from a deficit and took a seven point lead. Now, if you point at the two reasons we lost, you're going to point at turnovers and then they hit four more threes, which gets me, Drew, to kind of my final point before we go to break. Why don't we shoot more threes? I went back and look, we made 10 threes a game in our first eight games of the season or something like that, which, or maybe seven of our first eight or whatever. And it was like a Kentucky record.
Starting point is 00:16:42 And now we have been outshot just attempt, three-point attempts in six of our seven SEC games. And we are the team that's supposed to be a three-point shooting team. Why do you think, Drew, we've gone away from that? I don't know. I mean, part of it is teams have adjusted, but it's still not getting anywhere near what we want. What kills me is Kobe Brea.
Starting point is 00:17:06 I haven't seen what he is today out of the weekend. But going into the weekend, he was second in the country in percentage and not top 50 in attempts. I'm ready for Kobe to start ball hogging. I don't care if a couple of them clank off the side of the backboard. We need more out of him. He hasn't even scored in double figures in several games, if I'm not mistaken. I think he's a big piece of why the offense isn't getting where they need to be. Because for a while, I know the competition was down, but he's throwing in three or four a game.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Now we're lucky to see one out of him. I just, I don't get, I feel like they got are so unselfish that they don't shoot. And I don't understand it. Like Jackson Robinson and Kobe Brea need to shoot. If they have a sliver of opening Ryan, fire it up. Like, what are we doing? Because one of the things we've seen is with the exception to O way, this team does not finish at the rim. They just don't.
Starting point is 00:17:58 So I would much prefer them shooting threes at threes more than two. Yeah, I think it, One reason they're not getting as many three is we've talked about this. The opposing defenses are really pushing them out way out, you know, picking them up way outside a three point line. That pressure on them again and Brea and Robinson and these guys that aren't very physical, they're having trouble getting free from that, you know what I mean? Yeah, they are, and we've got, and we're, we can't finish at the rim.
Starting point is 00:18:22 We miss so many attempts at the rim. It does make it hard. 859-2-2-287. We'll talk more about the game. I guess the only positive is Shannon had to pay us $500,000. or at least his school did because they can't stay off the court and they're not law-abiding citizens. We'll talk about that right after this. This KSR.
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Starting point is 00:22:23 772-7-7-4-254. One person writes, Matt, I'm not blaming the refs, but I'm stopping the sentence right there. I'm not blaming the rest. That means you are blaming the refs. And I'm not listening to it. The refs were very clear, drew at the beginning of the game,
Starting point is 00:22:42 there weren't going to be fouls. They didn't even call a foul in the first 12 minutes. So you got to adjust. Like, this goes back to my problem when it comes to officiating in Kentucky. We got to play to the whistle. Now, I know it's got to be tough for Mark. He teaches these guys for a week
Starting point is 00:22:57 how to avoid playing for foul. and then we end up with reps who don't call anything. But we still, Drew, are going to have to adjust because, like, they weren't going to call anything the whole game. And to be fair, I think they were consistent in not calling anything the whole game. Yeah, and I've been upset after a few games about officiating. And I think overall, SEC officiating is pretty terrible. But Kentucky losing to Vandy, the officiating is about 0.002% of an impact on the game.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I'm just upset that Kentucky dropped the ball in a situation. They should have won with the crowd, with the way, Vandy played with Vandy being Vandy. I don't care. I mean, the officials could have been terrible. I can't point any fingers at them after the opportunity of Kentucky wasted. One person writes, Matt, why are you all being so negative? This has still been a great year.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Well, it has been a great year. But we lost to Vandy. I mean, you know, do you want to come on and say, you know, Shannon, we lost to Vandy, that's good. I mean, we lost to Vandy. But they are a good team, though. I mean, they're not Stackhouse's Vand. They are, and they might be ranked. They will be.
Starting point is 00:24:02 They will be ranked. They're probably going to be ranked. They're going to be ranked. But at the same time, everybody's good, right? Like, you know, I mean, we're going to have to, we're going to keep playing teams that are good. That's just going to be how it is. So they showed Drew, excuse me, Ryan, $500,000. That's what Vandy got fined for court storming.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Now, there was a great scene. I think everybody's seen the picture now. of at the last time out while they were doing that monitor review, the Vandy AD went to the student section and begged them to not storm the court, literally walked student by student, and said, please don't storm the court. We need this $500,000 for NIL. And then those stupid kids stormed it anyway. $500,000. And apparently, I did not know. this, but the SEC, apparently they have changed the policy, so now the money goes to Kentucky, which I didn't realize.
Starting point is 00:25:05 I thought it always went to the league office, and apparently it did, but I guess they've changed that rule, because on the SEC website, it says the money goes to Kentucky. So they basically paid for one or two of our football players for storming the court. That's kind of amazing, Ryan. And $500,000 is not a huge thing, but actually it's not a little thing in today's new world where you have to pay the players. No, I love that scene of the AD over there.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Had her hands together like she's praying. Please don't rush to court. It's like a parent, like a parent tearing your little three-year-old. Do not eat those chocolate chip cookies when I leave the room. And as soon as you leave the room, boom, that's exactly what they rushed to court. I didn't realize either that the opposing school gets to money. That's in the NIL world, that's huge now.
Starting point is 00:25:56 You got extra $500,000 to spend. And for basketball, that's going to be a good thing for Kentucky. Because a lot of the times the storm of the court is going to be against us. That's true. You know, in football, if you're Alabama, that's probably, but basketball court storms happen more are easier to happen and will probably happen to us more than any other team in the SEC if we're being honest. So, Drew, I didn't know that rule changed, but it's actually
Starting point is 00:26:22 probably a rule that's a pretty good rule for Kentucky. So maybe every other year we intentionally lose one at an LSU or a Vandy and collect a check? Go buy yourself another five-star player. That's exactly right. On the Vandy end, I think you just have to eat that and celebrate it. You beat Alabama and football in Tennessee and Kentucky a week apart in basketball. I know it's going to be expensive, but those students in that school won't have a run like that, maybe ever again, so just pay it off and enjoy it.
Starting point is 00:26:50 The Vandy, the Alabama game. was certainly worth storming the field. Yes. I would even argue maybe the Tennessee basketball game. I mean, we were ranked, I guess, ninth. We are Kentucky. I get it. But I also Shannon understood why your AD was over there begging.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Like that is, you know, that is a significant amount of money in this new era. Back in the past, I don't think it would have mattered as much. But they're going to have $22 million that they have to add to their budget. And now they have $22.5. and Mitch has 21.5. Thank you Vanderbilt. Now that they're going to be in the top 25, you're one of them, so you got to stop acting like you're the little team knocking off the Goliath team.
Starting point is 00:27:33 I also love, by the way, that they had like 20 security guards lined up. Like, what are they going to do? Like as soon as the court storm happened, they ran right by those guys like the turnstaff. Yeah, there's really nothing you can do because you can't tackle the kids. That's going to look terrible. It's like a show of force that didn't work. Yeah, it's not going to work. Who's up next?
Starting point is 00:27:50 Let's go to bluegrass. Bluegrass, how are you? I'm doing all right. Well, no, I'm not doing all right, man. I've sort of held my tongue. I haven't caught in. I've been a little bit on the downside. I'm getting tired of the lack of urgency for some of us players
Starting point is 00:28:05 are playing with. We've got to go through people to get the ball. Not go around, excuse me, pardon me, can I get this loose ball? I'd like to be going through some people, and that's the reason they'll play. That's the only reason they played. I don't want to say, you know. No, he did. You're right.
Starting point is 00:28:21 you're exactly right that's what he did is he went and he threw his body at it if our other guys are going to have to do that i just don't want i don't want to see pope go down with the ship with robinson i don't i don't i sort of feel like it's saw and tubby and and eddie sutton and john don't go going going to the ship or going down with for who who are you talking about robinson's been good yeah but he he doesn't get after the loose balls he doesn't and he doesn't listen It doesn't play with the lack of urgency. Well, he played decent defense on Edwards when they switched him on him. I don't think he was a problem Saturday at all, to be honest with you.
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Starting point is 00:29:20 Tax machine 772, 7754. One person writes, Matt, I do wonder if our team feels pressure of playing at Kentucky where everybody's Super Bowl and some of these kids may not be used to it. You know, maybe, but that's it. Like, I mean, we've had 15 years of having dudes right out of high school and some of them pick it up, some of them don't. And so, like, you have to have the mentality to play here.
Starting point is 00:29:46 I mean, that's a part of it. I don't get the sense that they don't get up for it, but they certainly didn't play the last three or four minutes well. One person says, Matt, I don't know how you can say Jackson Robinson played good defense. He is our worst defender. He is not our worst defender by far. And even Mark Pope said that, you know, I mean, Shannon, after the beginning, they put Robinson on Edwards.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Edward struggled a little bit until the end. Then he had a couple shots there at the end. but he scored like nine points in the first three minutes. They then switched Robinson on him. I actually thought he did pretty well. Our worst defenders are some other guys. I mean, he's not a great defender, but Brea and some of the guys coming off the bench, all manure, even Carr, although he was hurt.
Starting point is 00:30:39 How much do you think not having Carr drew mattered in this game? A ton. Not going to use it as an excuse, I think that's going to be a big deal moving forward to. You know, Carr hadn't been perfect, but in the comeback against Duke, the comeback against Gonzaga, a lot of the big moments and big runs were Kentucky won games. Andrew Carr was a part of it, especially late. So I'm worried about that.
Starting point is 00:31:01 And I really think even though Kirkryso wasn't exactly an all-SCC player, I think his loss has been very impactful too. This injury thing, again, not making excuses for him, but I think it's hurting Kentucky a lot more than getting credit for him. Yeah, I do too. Big picture, Ryan, you know, I don't know. Is this, are you adjusting your expectations at all? Like, I mean, I think after our non-conference,
Starting point is 00:31:27 maybe our expectations got a little ahead of where they were before the season. Are you adjusting them back to where they were originally? Are you feeling even worse than that? Like, where are you on it? I guess if I'm going to be honest, I'm a little worse, and it's not necessarily a reflection on Kentucky. It's a reflection on the rest of the SEC. I mean, like you said, you still got a,
Starting point is 00:31:46 Auburn, Tennessee twice, Alabama at their place. I mean, there's still some really, oh, miss, there's still some really, really tough games. So there's more losses coming. But you can also look at that as an opportunity. I mean, there's also a chance with those games to get wins. Do you have any worry, Drew, at all about making the tournament? And the only reason I say that is we only have two or three games left on the schedule that you would say, okay, we're definitely winning those.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Do you have any worry about that at all? I mean, for me, if this team wins 18 games, they're in the tournament. So, like, they're going to need, like, four more. I feel like they definitely get that. But, like, I mean, you know, any worry to get to 20, for instance, you'd have to go six and six in these last 12. Any worry about doing that? Not right now.
Starting point is 00:32:39 We were having this debate on the website this weekend. I kind of made the case of why we shouldn't worry. I mean, they're third in the country in quad one wins. They have six quad one wins. In the net rankings today, I think they're 12th or 13. I mean, these are some bad losses, but their non-conference wins were so good. And if they just win a few more in the SEC, those will be good wins. I just don't see them miss the tournament situation unless things just go really south moving forward.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Because if you just wear a few more in the SEC, those are going to be even, those are going to be more big resume wins to put next to the ones you already have. Beat South Carolina, beat LSU, beat Arkansas. let's just say beat Vandy at home. All right, now you're at 18. And then it's just like win one or two of these at Texas, at Oklahoma, Ole Miss, you know, Auburn at home, Tennessee at home, just win a couple of them. So I'm not worried about it either.
Starting point is 00:33:31 What's interesting about the net is we've been like 12th or 13th all year, Drew, whether we win or lose. It's like no matter what happens, we stay at 12 and 13, no matter what. That's been very weird. There's been weeks where you go have these big wins and you can't wait to see where they're on the rankings and it's like up one spot. Then you lose at Georgians like, oh no, down one spot. It's been Kentucky's whatever the- We've been 12th or 13 no matter what. It's like Ken Palm, the analytics are a little wonky around Kentucky too.
Starting point is 00:33:59 I don't know if it's how they play or what, but it hasn't been effective either direction. It's really odd. It doesn't seem to have an effect either way. 859-28027. Who's next, Shed? DB. DB. DB.
Starting point is 00:34:10 How are you, DB? I'm doing good. I watched a nice wrestling match Saturday between Auburn and Tennessee. In my opinion, I think the referees are letting things get too far out of hand, and it's going to hurt the SEC when they get in the tournament games. You're going to get some officials that are going to start calling things, and then they're going to be out in no time. Well, DB, remember, though, it was only a week ago that,
Starting point is 00:34:41 people were complaining that they were calling too many files. Remember? I mean, this is a week ago there was a game that had something like, what was it, 70 fouls called or 60 some fouls called in the A&M Alabama game. So maybe they went too far in the other direction.
Starting point is 00:34:57 I'm not sure, but I think it's like you know, we were complaining at the beginning of the year they called too many fouls and then this weekend the complaint was they called no foul so I don't really know what they're going to do. When the Auburn player grabbed that Tennessee guy at the end of the game and almost threw him down in front of the official.
Starting point is 00:35:17 The Tennessee coach throws his water bottle down. I mean, it's getting ridiculous. Some of the things they let go. Well, in that game, I agree with you. I appreciate the call. But I will say, Ryan, I hadn't thought until this week that they weren't calling enough fouls, because I thought they were calling way too many. And then it was clear in that U.K.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Vandy game, they weren't blowing that whistle. I can't remember I've ever seen a game where they didn't call foul in the first 12 minutes for game. Can you ever remember that? Oh, that's insane. So let me ask you this. You know, after the game, Jackson Robinson came on with Jack Givens and said something like he felt like they came out tentative because they'd practiced all week not fouling. Yeah, probably so. Probably so.
Starting point is 00:35:54 But you know what? I understand why they did that. Because in every game up to this point, they were calling everything. So, you know. But even with all that said, we're up seven with eight minutes ago. We got a way to win. Now, we didn't collapse over Drew like Kansas at the end of their game. game. Did you watch the end of that game?
Starting point is 00:36:13 Did you see how much they collapsed? I didn't see a live, but that was a historic collapse. In regulation, Ryan, they're up four. They let Houston score and then they can't get the ball in bounds, turn it over. Game goes to overtime. So they already had one inbound screw up in regulation. Then in overtime, up six at the line for two shots, miss them both, give up a three, miss the inbound, give up another three, and go to overtime.
Starting point is 00:36:45 That's one of the most historic collapses I can ever remember. And it was the final leg of the KSR Parlay, which all Kansas had to do was win. If you think I wasn't throwing stuff up here, I was going insane during that. At home, what a collapse by Kansas. I'm with you. I had heavily invested for me in the KSR Parlay. Comes down to that, I'm just screaming, Kansas. Just do the Caliperi play.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Put Hunter Dickens and throw, put his arm up in the air, and just get the ball in bounds. That's all you had to do is get it in bounds. I couldn't believe they collapsed like that. And he missed the two free throw. All he did was make one of those free throws, and it's over. It was, I mean, I don't know that I've ever seen the team collapse. I mean, the only one I can think about was many years ago, Drew, that Duke Maryland collapsed when Maryland was up like 10 with a minute to go.
Starting point is 00:37:36 And then Duke came back. That was, I say, that was 20 years ago, probably. when I think Jay Williams played. But that was one for the ages there Saturday night. Yeah, I mean, that was an improbable ending for any level of basketball. You can have that at transient, it would be crazy. But the fact that it happened in the fog where usually, you know, things just start happening, whistles, lights will go out.
Starting point is 00:37:56 I think they even put in bigger rims for Kansas late in the games there. For them to lose on that court makes it even crazier. It was bizarre. Now, let me ask you, I said this after the game. You tell me if I'm right. I said that I think Kentucky at this point, if you're just looking big picture, I'm going to enjoy the last 12 games, assuming we win enough to make the tournament. For me, Ryan, this team in March is one of these, every game we can win, every game we can lose.
Starting point is 00:38:28 And that sounds simplistic, but there's no team in the NCAA that I don't think this team can beat. there also probably won't be many teams in the tournament that I don't think we can lose to. So is that just going to be what it is? It's like every game is a battle and we'll see what happens. I think everybody's going to agree with you. This team is definitely going to make the tournament, yet there's going to be that matchup and maybe the second round against a team they should beat. But what about the first round?
Starting point is 00:38:54 Yeah, even the first round. I mean, we could be a six-seed. I mean, forget the second round. We might be a five or six seed, and the first round is like that. Because even this week, they drop Tennessee. That's a three-game slide going in with Arkansas coming in. I mean, I'm going to be nervous and anxious this whole week now, I think. By the way, Share, I'm not thinking about the Arkansas game until after the Tennessee game.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Yeah, well. I'm not. Because I know everybody wants to talk about Cal and the Arkansas game, and we're going to have plenty of time to do that on Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday. They need to win this Tennessee game tomorrow. But this Tennessee game is first. Tennessee is objectively a bigger. arrival to us. Now this year the unique circumstances make us want to beat Arkansas more.
Starting point is 00:39:40 But you know, Drew, we've had some success at Tennessee. We've sometimes had success at Tennessee even when we were coming in having been terrible. Matter of fact, I think in the last few years, I think we won like twice there coming off really bad losses where we thought our team wasn't good and then we went down there and won. That's happened, I think, twice. Yeah, it's actually been pretty good at Tennessee. I usually make that trip. I remember one in particular a few years ago, Kentucky was a 13-point favorite. I was dreading the game, my entire drive down there. Next thing I know, C.J. Frederick is sticking out his tongue, and Kentucky's up by 10 on that Tennessee team.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Last year they had a big game there. Reed Shepard went off going against Dalton Connect. I think this is one of Rick Barnes' better teams he's had in a while, but Kentucky has found a way to go up against some of the Vols best there lately. I think we've won our last two. You mentioned last year, and wasn't it this game that Antonio Reeves, he started playing Antonio Reeves two years ago and he had a pretty good game. Am I right
Starting point is 00:40:38 about that, Drew? That sounds about right. I know like with the case of Frederick, they seem to always have a guy to step up in those games too. Last year, I mean, we already knew about Shepard, but he was unbelievable last year. He had close to 30. He couldn't miss threes. All my Tennessee friends are texting me.
Starting point is 00:40:54 What hell is this Reed Shepard guy? I mean, he lit him up last season. Yeah. So maybe we could do it again. Court physical therapy. If you are being healthy and saving more money than on your New Year's resolutions. How about also getting rid of pain? Kentucky A and his leader in physical therapy for more than 30 years. It's court.com. Make a lifestyle change towards better health with court. K-O-R-T.com, make yourself feel better with court. We'll take a break and come back. A couple of them. I know we lost, but guys, that doesn't mean you can't call in.
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Starting point is 00:44:59 or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back. It is the KSR. It's not, I'm used to the pregame post game. Shannon, you know, the next storm court fine is a million dollars. Yeah. You know, he still play Auburn in Nashville. A million dollars a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Do you think they set up grenades around the court for that one to keep the bank of those? You mean, like where they just step on mines? Yeah. Like a mine. Yeah. I got to do something. I'm not saying they're going to beat Auburn. They probably won't.
Starting point is 00:45:34 But they can't pay a million dollars. I'm not going to go as far as grenades and mines, but I think maybe it's time to whip out the taser. Maybe the cattle prods, you know, like the Mountie used to carry around. Yeah, they're going to need more people in yellow shirts. Yeah. They're not going to need to be bigger. But I don't really know what you do, right?
Starting point is 00:45:52 You get that many people who want to come on. You're going to have a hard time stopping them, you know? It's the year of the Commodores, man. The football team in Diego Pavia beat Alabama. They've beat Tennessee and Kentucky a week apart. So let the kids eat, man. Let them have a little fun. I think you've got to build a moat around the court,
Starting point is 00:46:10 fill it with alligators. I mean, you've got to go to the extreme here. Your budget is up to a million because you're going to lose a million if they do it. So spend $700,000 building barriers. And you've already spent a million. Right. You have to remember you. I've got to money.
Starting point is 00:46:23 Yeah, the kids are going to have to double the cost of their meal plan if they don't stop running on the court. By the way, you all were talking on the pre-show, Shannon about the SEC tournament. Yeah. Right, this SEC tournament is, it's going to be so wild. And I don't know, we've talked about this,
Starting point is 00:46:42 but I don't know if people really focus on, they're going to be eight teams playing on Wednesday. And the team seated ninth or whatever is going to play on Wednesday, and that team's going to be really good. Could be an NCAA tournament team. Yeah. I mean, right now, we're 10th. If the SEC tournament started today, we'd be playing on Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:47:02 And we're 10th. So the SEC tournament, if you're just talking quality of basketball, this is the best it will ever be, in my opinion. I mean, I was looking on the secondary sides. The cheapest full-session SEC tournament book I saw was $900. And that's not cheap. But when you consider you're going to get 15 games, probably 13 of which will have great teams in them, it's actually probably one of the better prices you could get for that level of basketball that many games, right? Yeah, the Wednesday night games, like it's usually Missouri last year.
Starting point is 00:47:39 They didn't have any wins. Usually, you know, they have to give away tickets, free tickets just to come fill the arena. I'm going to do that this year. I wouldn't think. No. I mean, I don't know this for playing, Drew, but they're not going to give away those. They're going to give the way the tickets Wednesday when Kentucky might be playing, right? I mean, I can't imagine they do that.
Starting point is 00:47:56 And they haven't done that in a while. Remember the last couple of years, Wednesday night, was almost full. We used to joke about how you know, you have the place to yourself. It was my favorite night. Here lately it's even been big. But it's only been like five dollars in recent years. That was the only way I could get into the building. They wouldn't credential me. We know that much. Yeah. Okay. By the way, the things came out today. I'm not doing it to apply. You're not even going to apply? Why am I wasting my time? Maybe you get it this year. Remember, I went and argued for you. Maybe you get it this year. You've been arguing for years for me.
Starting point is 00:48:28 But he, but I did it on Wednesday. day. This time he said you can argue early. So if you'll apply, I'll put in the argument early if you want. I saw it. It was face to face. That's all you do it. Yes. Let's go. I did it. I'll do it. I'll do it. Mark my words though. If I don't get credential this year, I will never, ever apply for an SEC credential. Okay. Fair enough. This is it. And I'll say that to him. It's now or never for Shane and Grisbee. He may one day end up the head anchor on ESPN. It's now or never. if you want Shannon. Make sure you put Shannon the dude.
Starting point is 00:49:03 You always make that I always put Grigsby. I never put the dude. But they don't know you. The problem is he literally said he needs to put the dude on there. Are you being serious? Do you really want me to do that? I think you need to put it on there because they don't know who they don't know who Shannon Grigsby is.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Okay. Shannon put the dude in quotation marks Grigsby. Okay. That's the way to do it. Plus that'll be the only one they get like that. So they'll know who's up next. They don't go Carl the dude ravage. Mad dog when he tries to apply for credentials, does he put mad dog on it?
Starting point is 00:49:34 I think he has to. I think he has to. He has to put a bad dog. All right, Chris, go ahead, Chris. Hey, Matt. Good morning. I got a suggestion for the court storming solution. 10 or 20 percent, the A.Ds say if we win this ahead of time, if we win this game against Kentucky or yada, yada, yada, we're going to take 20 percent of what the
Starting point is 00:49:59 fine would be and throw a big party if you all don't form. Okay. Yeah, no, I think that would work? You think that would work, though? I think so. And then the next time, if it's a half, would have been a half a million, it's a $100,000 party. That's interesting. Okay, I like the idea.
Starting point is 00:50:16 I like the idea. Okay. I got one more. Okay, real quick, real quick. If you don't mind, I'm thinking of the dichotomy between cow and Pope. and sometimes I wonder, like, I think these guys, he's so analytical where Cal would just roll the ball out. Okay, no Cal until Wednesday. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Cal until Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Yeah, no, it is. No Cal until Wednesday. Appreciate the call. We're not doing Cal or Analy, we're, no Cal to Wednesday. I want to go back to this party. Shannon, you were a nerdy bandy fan. If you, if you were in the student section, and they have a, you know, a million dollar fine.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Yeah. If the, if the AD said, we'll throw a hundred thousand dollar party if you all will not storm the court. Are you in? No, because that is my party right there. That's the party. Okay. We don't want to.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Drew, you were a UK student. What if they said that to you? We'll throw a hundred. Wait a minute. You didn't storm a court at UK. I mean, Fields, Fields. Fields. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:51:25 A hundred thousand dollar party if you don't storm. You think you all can talk yourself into that? I would say, that's awesome, you cheap ass. I can have a million-dollar party if we win by storming the court. So I guess Tanner's idea is not going to work. You promise a lot of three beer. I think you've got to go higher on the cost of the party. Now, half a million, I'll listen to you.
Starting point is 00:51:47 But that doesn't sound like much of a party. How are you going to have a half-million-dollar party for student-ex party? Well, you spend a million men if you don't want to have a party. What do you? You get Bobby Bones. You get Nate Burgazzi for a half a million. That's so you could get a band or something. Yeah.
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