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Welcome, everyone.
It is Kentucky Sports Radio Tuesday, January the 28th.
I'm Matt Jones.
Still here in New York.
Getting ready to watch.
Cats and Falls coming up tonight, a game that is always exciting, but maybe a little less exciting
after the news of yesterday.
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Ryan and Drew are in studio in Lexington.
Shannon is in Louisville.
Ryan, I mean, I don't like to start shows with bummer news, but it's, I don't know how you don't do it.
Kentucky and Tennessee, the continuation of, you know, Kentucky's probably their second biggest rivalry in college basketball behind Louisville.
I don't know what that guy that called the pre-show Shannon saying Tennessee fans don't care about Kentucky.
Like that guy is good.
Well, he admitted that it was a T-shirt game every time Kentucky comes to play there.
That's ridiculous.
I mean, we do hate them more in football than they hate us because they've been better than us.
But the idea that it's not true in reverse, they hate us in basketball more than we got a ton of people we play in basketball.
That dude is just insane.
All he's got to do is look at my mentions after a game and then see what Tennessee fans think.
But tonight, Ryan, with the news that Lamont Butler will be out as he is hurt, will not play tonight, makes this game this evening a little bit less exciting.
Yeah, you know, you hope to go into a rival's home court needing a win coming off a two-game losing streak, be it full-stress.
strength so you can have a chance to pull a win out there.
But not having him, dude, that's
crucial. That's maybe the one guy they couldn't
afford to lose for this game.
Because they got Zichai Ziegler on the other side.
I mean, Drew, do you think we can win
without him? Like, if we're being completely
honest, I mean, can we
win without him?
Yes.
Slim chance. But if Jackson
Robinson is playing the way he did at
Mississippi State and Kobe Brea will wake up,
if Kentucky can just start throwing in some threes and have one of those games that they're capable of eventually,
then you have a chance.
But it will take some special shooting from outside to score points against this team without having to bother up there.
So we agree that the chance to win is to go up there and just bomb threes.
Right.
I mean, like, Ryan, we got to take 30 plus threes tonight and hope they're failing.
I mean, that's really our one chance of winning this game, correct?
That's it, man.
You hit it because they are the number one defensive team in the country.
They kept Auburn in the 50s, another good offensive team.
So yes, for Kentucky to win this game, they have to be able to shoot lights out.
Two or three guys, not just one guy.
They need a couple guys to shoot lights out tonight.
This stat is amazing.
So Kentucky Shannon is 0 and 4 when we've scored 69 points or less.
Tennessee has only allowed 70 in one game this year.
Wow.
Yep.
And that does not play well into Kentucky's hands.
at all. Kentucky wants the game in the 80s or 90s or above that even.
You know, you play in the 60s or 70s. I don't like their chances.
All right. So let's talk about though Lamont Butler. I mean, Drew, I don't know, you know,
last night when that news came out. So people understand the rules in the SEC have changed
a little bit. You have to, this is a gambling thing in order to like preserve the sanctity
of the game. You have to say who's going to play and who's not.
speaking, I finally had somebody tell me how they get the difference between out,
probable, et cetera.
Basically, if you have no plans of the guy dressing out and warming up with the team, you have
to put it as out.
And apparently the SEC has told teams privately, like, that's how it is, period.
And if we find out you knew he was out, and then you didn't say it, fine.
So clearly they knew Lamont Butler was out.
They have Andrew Carr as questionable, which means they still think he could play.
So if Butler is out, presumably he's farther back from playing than Carr.
Pope said just a couple days ago it seemed like Carr might miss some time.
I mean, there were rumors flying last night on text to me.
I have no idea, so I don't want to say definitively.
But like, how worried are you up for Butler?
the rest of this year?
Do you think this is just a game?
Like, what do you think it is?
Well, he seemed really banged up lately,
and I hadn't been playing well for that.
The fact that he's still been playing through it,
I'm not as worried about long-term.
I've actually made up a positive scenario in my head
that I'm just going to live in Fantasyland,
where Pope has...
Yeah, no, no, everyone, please get on board with this.
I've completely made it up.
But Pope has said, look, it's at Tennessee,
nine-point underdog.
We're banged up.
I'm going to put these guys on ice and make sure we're healthy for Arkansas.
So I've put that in my head.
I have no idea if that's real.
But I'm at least hopeful that maybe this is a butler.
You have everything hurt right now.
Let's get you a week and see how you're doing.
But it could be long term because, I mean, they have him as out, not game time decision, not probable.
You didn't want to see out for a guy that has just been playing for you.
Out, which is what surprised me, the out.
I mean, that says not playing.
You know, I don't know.
I mean, I'm not there.
I intentionally, you know, I'm a little surprised.
Mark didn't do his radio show right now last night.
No, it's Wednesday.
Away games on Wednesdays.
Did they do, though, the day before a game press conference or no?
Didn't do one?
Yes, it was Anzley Almanore and Jackson Robinson, though.
But no coach?
No coach.
They do the players on Monday and Pope on Thursday.
Okay. All right. So there was no way we won't get any answers to pre-game.
Yeah. So there was no way for anybody to have to do it. So we probably won't know the answer
until Pope does his interview with Tom Leach before the game.
You know, I have no idea. I hope it's the scenario Drew says. But let's just say, Ryan,
that Butler were out longer. I mean, he has a shoulder issue. It's like, backs, you can rest.
If you have something in your shoulder, that's tougher because it feels like that could be something torn, at which point, then I wonder if you're playing.
So that's what makes me, I'm going to be very hesitant until I hear what Mark says tonight because there's a part of me that's very worried.
Shoulder injuries are not usually something that just like immediately get better.
And the fact, he's been, I mean, I think he got hurt when during the Alabama game?
Is that right?
A&M game.
Texas A&M game.
I mean, that's a while back.
I don't know, Ryan.
I'm probably a little more concerned than I was even on the car one.
I'm concerned, and I'll tell you why.
This is a tough kid.
I mean, like you just said, he's been hurt since the A&M game.
This is his last season of college basketball.
He's playing a huge game against a team that was just the number one team in the country
a couple weeks ago.
He would go if the coaches would let him go.
I think if you asked him, he probably would try to play.
But we saw in the Vandy game.
There were a couple times where his left arm was just hanging down beside.
It hurts so bad he couldn't even move it.
So that's what worries me because if he could go even a little bit,
I think he could talk him in that he would want to play.
All right.
So now the question is, what does Kentucky do?
We saw against in our last game.
We saw against Vandy.
Honestly, I thought the moments where Kentucky's offense looked the best
was when Jackson Robinson played point, to be quite frank with you.
Do you think that's what they do, Drew?
Is this, I mean, it's hard for me to see them starting Travis Perry on the road at the best defensive team in the country.
Now, Travis's defense is weak.
If you saw the, I mean, if you saw the numbers that they released yesterday of plus minus defense,
Travis's is really, really bad.
But offensively, like, but that's, you know, Tennessee is not a great offensive team.
Do you start Travis Perry or do you slide Jackson Robinson over and have him play like a scoring point card?
That's a tough one.
When the Butler News came out last night, I typed and deleted a tweet that said Zikai Ziegler,
get ready to learn Lion County, but I couldn't even smile with fake optimism because I'm very worried about that matchup.
That's a terrible matchup.
Butler has not played well offensive lately, but his on-ball defense is pretty dang special.
And it is a significant drop defensively where you're going to,
against the player that if I'm not mistaken, I think Zikaa Ziegler played against
Sean Wood and Travis Ford. I mean, this dude's played a lot of SEC basketball and you have
a true freshman who when he's committed to Kentucky probably didn't even expect to play much
this season. You're now rolling out in Knoxville where they're starting or not. He's going to have
a lot of minutes and that is a terrible matchup for Kentucky. Yeah, I'm with
Shannon. Is that them or me that was got the discontagment? I think that was them. Yeah.
Yeah. All right. So you guys in Lexington, the tech.
people. Y'all got to fix them. There's no, I mean, we got to fix the Lexington feed because that's
been an issue the last two days. Let me read you this, Shannon, about on-off defensive splits. I mean,
this gives you a sense of what we're, what our concern is. This is for the year how we do defensively
when guys are in the game. The best defender we have on the team by numbers with a plus 11.5,
not surprisingly, Lamont Butler. Second best, Andrew Carr, which surprised me a little bit of
little bit, but I can, I mean, he's, you know, he's had some good matchups. Amari Williams is third.
That's 9.5. All right. Let's go to the ones that are negative.
Brandon Garrison minus 12, Kobe Brea minus 15.
Travis Perry Shannon minus 26.5.
Ouch.
All right. We only have three players negative, period.
But he is minus 26.5. Lamont Butler is,
plus 11.5.
So that means every 100 possessions,
teams score 38 more points on Travis Perry than Lamont Butler.
That's, I mean, I love Travis Perry, and offensively, I think he gives them a lot.
But that is a massive Shannon drop-off, massive.
Yeah, makes it hard to make the case for Travis Perry being out there and getting minutes
when he's getting eaten up defensively.
The other number that you gave me there with Kobe Bray,
I mean, that's a guy that you have to have on the court, too.
But he's going to have to play tonight.
Yeah, you're going to be able to score enough.
And he's going to be, and he's a minus 15.
He's got to shoot more than five times.
He only shot the ball five times against Vandy.
He's got to shoot eight to ten every night.
They've got to get him more shots.
Yeah, it is, so it makes me nervous.
So I'm going to, if I'm starting, I'm going to go Robinson, Oway, Brea,
Allmanor Williams, which, Ryan, that's not the greatest lineup in the world,
but I think that's the lineup you have to go with.
Well, it may be forced to go with that lineup tonight.
You know, you mentioned Zichai Ziegler, Travis Perry.
That's a bad matchup for Travis.
I think Zichai Ziegler and Jackson-Robinson,
that's a bad max-up for Jackson-Robinson, too.
I mean, I think Ziegler may just be licking.
He's chops waiting to play this game tonight
against who they throw out there on him.
All right, Drew, C.J. Moore, who has been with the Kentucky team.
He was there at the game Saturday.
I think he's going to be there tonight.
I think he's there with them through the Arkansas game.
He said on Field of 68 last night that he thinks if you were to get Mark Pope to have truth serum to where he had to tell the truth.
Right now, Kentucky's 3 and 3 in conference.
He said he thought Mark Pope would today go into the postseason 9 and 9 and take it to finish 20 and 11 and probably be like a 6 or 7 seed.
Would you think that would you take it if you were Mark Pope?
knowing that Lamont Butler is out, and we don't know how he and Carr, how long they might be out.
I mean, it sounds crazy to accept that record as Kentucky.
But the analytics are predicting a lot more losses, not even counting the injury situation,
and just uncertainty around two starters who have been huge for you and your biggest wins.
I think I would take it.
It's really just to-
I mean, not knowing Butler or Carr, if you're,
going to see them again. I mean, I assume we will, but not knowing that. I mean, if you don't
have them, it could be a lot worse than nine to nine. I would take nine and nine. Yeah, I think I would
take it. I mean, they're so banged up. They're banged up in the schedule. It just keeps getting
difficult. The Ken Palm predictions have them losing, I think maybe even eight more ahead just with
the numbers. Yeah. I would take it. I'd take it in a second. Yeah, I would too, man. So like I said,
with the news about Butler and Carr and with, and not just a reflection of Kentucky reflection on how good
teams are this year in the SEC, I'd take 9 and 9 and get 20 wins total.
Yeah, so I think I would too.
And tonight is for me, this is for me tonight.
I never would throw away a Tennessee game.
Look, we have twice in the last five years gone down there where it looked like we had
no chance and we've won.
I think we won the COVID year in a game that nobody thought we had a chance to win.
And then we won a couple years ago with C.J. Frederick and Antonio Reeves, games that
we thought we had no chance.
So I'm not giving up on it.
The good thing about Tennessee being bad.
ad offensively is if you get hot, you can beat them. But for me, this is a game to kind of figure
out what we have because, you know, without Lamont Butler, the season can look a lot different.
859-2-80-2287. Would you take 9-9-9? Yes or no in the text machine? 7-7-7-7-4,
5-254. Hopefully they'll get it fixed in Lexington. If not, Shannon, this may be like the other day
when it was just me and you. Let's go do it. I hope you're ready for it if that happens.
We can do it. We'll bring Jay Williams on here. Let me argue him with it.
MJ, MJ, MJ, we'll be right back.
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All right, so it looks like most of you on the text machine would take 9 and 9 in a heartbeat.
I agree.
If you're 9 and 9, I think you're probably 6 seed, 5 seed, 7.
Depends on how things go, because you've got so many quad 1 wins.
I mean, that's why those wins in the non-conference will be so important.
It seems like almost all of you would take it.
One person writes, Matt, all right, that was a little negative in the first segment.
give me the positive case for how you make this work without Butler.
Well, okay, you got to hit a lot of threes, right?
You have to get Drew, I think Amari Williams has got to play like no, no negatives.
Like he's got to play great.
Almanor, I mean, let's give Almanor his props.
I mean, Almanor's had in the last three or four games, multiple games where he's made more than one three.
He made what?
Do you make four in Nashville, Drew?
Yeah, four of five.
He made four in Nashville.
So, I mean, if he's doing that, if he can get you 12 points, then you'll take that at that position.
The problem for me is, okay, let's say Jackson Robinson, I disagree a little bit with Ryan on the defense.
I think Robinson and O'Way, you know, they're going to do as well as they can against Lanier and Ziegler.
But then that means you're going to have to play Brea and Almanor at the same time.
And at that point, Drew, I really worry about what happens to a lot.
us at the 3-4 position with those two guys having the guard.
Yeah, and Tennessee plays big down low.
I think the 4-and-5 are like 610-2-30.
Not a great matchup for Almanora or Brea.
But I mean, you know, on the other side, if you're running and gunning,
those guys got to run with you.
But adding to what Kentucky has to do to win, whether it's making threes or whatever,
Jackson-Robinson has to win the Robinson-Leneer one-on-one battle.
I know it's a team sport, but those two guys,
I mean, if Robinson stayed in the NBA, there's a good chance Lanier is at Kentucky.
I mean, he was kind of waiting to see what Robinson did.
He was as high on Kentucky's portal board as anyone.
They were very close.
I think this is a game.
He's probably had circled on the calendar.
And if he were to outplay Robinson, I don't think Kentucky has a chance.
And he's averaging close to 20 games.
That's a really great point.
Those were Kentucky's biggest two targets in the portal.
The two guys they wanted the most were Robinson and Lanier.
They'd love to have had them both, but they were like, we got to get one.
All right, so they got Robinson.
Tennessee got Lanier.
Like, this is your chance to go, okay, who made the right choice?
Lanier's probably outplayed Robinson early in the year,
but this would be a good chance for Robinson to get back.
But you're right.
I mean, for us to win, Ryan, Robinson's got to have 20, right?
He's got to have at least 20 for us to win.
Brea's probably got to have, if you're saying, what's Kentucky's path to victory?
Robinson 20, Brea at least three-threes, four-threes,
all minor, at least a couple, and then just hope things work.
out. And if we're trying to be positive
this segment, the last time Butler didn't
play against Gonzaga, Kerr got hurt.
They had to slide Jackson Robinson over to the point guard.
Had one of these best games.
You know, he did great that game.
You're exactly right.
That is a real part.
We did beat Gonzaga without Butler.
They had Creason, though.
Came back from down big.
Well, they came back once Creasea went out too.
That's true.
They were down 16.
That's when Robinson just kind of stepped over.
That's a great boy.
Maybe this is what happened.
Maybe this is the moment Robinson, like,
hits another level.
With the three-point shooting,
with three-point shooting,
I think the best wins are Florida and Mississippi State,
and Kobe Brea hit seven-threes against Florida,
and Robinson had seven-threes against Mississippi State.
It's hard to ask you got to make seven-threes,
but it's worked out pretty well when they have hit that many.
We need to ask somebody to do it.
Hey, right, shoot them all.
Jackson, Kobe, one of you makes seven-threes.
We can't win this game playing the sort of drive-to-the-basket.
You cannot drive to the basket against Tennessee.
We're going to have to shoot threes,
and we're going to have to make them.
Who's up first, Shannon?
Bird.
Bird.
Go ahead, Bird.
What's going on, guys?
I got two things.
Number one, did you all see the fight
and the early forfeit of Powell County
versus Montgomery County basketball last night?
All right, so make your second point.
I'm going to have Ryan talk about that
because he knows the facts.
Go ahead.
What's your second one?
All right, the second point,
I know Drew is going to love this.
Did you all see that Bill Belichick
announced that they were ripping up turf
at North Carolina and putting down grass.
They're going back to the way football should be played.
Well, I appreciate the call.
I'm for that.
Most places are getting rid of turf.
Now they have that field turf, which is kind of in the middle.
Ryan, tell me about what happened.
You know, it was all anyone was talking about online.
Powell County, Montgomery County.
There were so many fights a team quit.
I just happened to be there.
So I...
Wait a minute.
You went to the game?
Yeah, I was there.
I was in the crowd.
I was going to have.
God, I had no idea about this.
How did you end up going to a Powell County Montgomery County game?
Well, one of my good friends is from Powell County.
His son-in-law coaches Montgomery County.
So he invited Josiah and I over to come and watch his son-in-law coach against his old school.
So we went.
He's like Carmen San Diego or Waldo.
You go to a Powell County Montgomery County game.
Do you expect to see Ryan Lemon walk in?
I mean, probably so.
He's in so many random places.
I didn't know you were at the game.
So what happened?
I walk in and we got there at the start of the second quarter
because traffic was a nightmare in Lexington last night.
And they're in a 20-minute delay
because there had just been a fight on the floor.
And you could see the video where a Montgomery County player
pushes some Powell County players.
He gets ejected.
But the whole Powell County bench, the whole bench,
left the bench and ran on the floor during all this.
So not only did the Montgomery County kid get kicked out for pushing,
the whole Powell County bench got kicked out of the game.
So Powell County's down to like five players and one bent.
They had six guys.
That was it.
All right.
They play for about four or five more minutes.
And then with a minute left in the first half,
a Powell County player pushes a Montgomery County player.
He gets kicked out.
And when he got kicked out, the whole Powell County team,
they just picked up their stuff, walked off the floor,
minute left till halftime, forfeited the game.
I've never ever seen that happen before.
Wait, so hang on.
So Powell County at that point could have kept going.
They had five dudes.
Correct.
Yes.
Why didn't they play the sixth guy on the bench?
Shannon, was he like me and they didn't want to put him in under any circumstances?
Why didn't they put him?
We're not putting feathers in.
I don't care what it was.
Feathers is not coming in.
No.
Why didn't they play him?
I think there was more of a protest.
Walking off the floor, they were, I think, in a protest about how the game was going.
Okay, let me ask you a question.
I'm not trying to be cynical.
Were they losing at the time?
They were down by about 20, 20 or 25 points.
And what even half time?
So they were protesting,
down 20 at halftime.
That's the way I kind of feel it went.
Yeah, they were upset because it was really physical.
Like I said.
Not much of a protest, Drew, when you're losing by 20 and then you protest, right?
What's the protest?
They were the ones that left the bench, right?
Yeah, and now I'm sure the KHSAA is going to come down on them.
You can't just walk off the floor in the middle of a game
without some sort of sanctions, probation, something.
Now, wait a minute, you were a guest of the Powell County coach.
Why did you let him do this?
Well, my buddy is from Powell County, but his son-in-law coaches Montgomery County.
So I'm sitting behind the Montgomery County bench.
Okay, right.
Drew, do you think we're getting the unbiased view here since his son-in-law?
There's a little bit of a lien here.
It feels like this was an anti-Powell County lien in the way you told the story.
Nothing but facts, sir.
I just tweeted the video if anyone wants to see it.
We'll see. If there's a different story, let me know.
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One person writes, Matt, last time we went to Knoxville,
Dalton Connect, had 40, and we still won.
I'm very confident.
I like it. I mean, it's good.
We have won twice down there in five years when I thought we had no chance of winning.
So I'm not dismissing our chances.
The other thing is, Drew, if you go back and look at those two years, we beat them down there,
it's because we hit a ton of threes, right?
We got really hot and we hit a ton of threes.
And we have a team that can do that.
I know I've said this a thousand times, but if you go look at Mark Pope at Butler,
they would go win games, they shouldn't win, and then lose games they shouldn't lose
because of shooting threes.
So like if you're going to pull an upset,
Drew, this is the kind of team you can do it with
because you can get hot and just bang a bunch of threes.
Yep, and it's not just the last five years.
Literally the last two times we've been there,
Kentucky was an 11.5 point underdog
and a nine and a half point underdog and won both times.
Wow.
So maybe we like being a big underdog.
Maybe we have a nine and a half point underdog right now.
Last year when Connect had 40,
Reed Shepard and Antonio Reeves had 27 each and Shepard hit seven three.
So it was one of those games where,
Have fun, Dalton Connect.
We're still doing all right over here.
They scored close to 100 something, if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah, one person writes, Matt, what about Trent Noah?
You haven't mentioned him.
This could be a big game for him.
Maybe, I mean, I worry about Noah's defense, but then again, you know, Tennessee's not a great offensive team.
So, yeah, why not?
I mean, all these guys are going to get a chance tonight, Ryan.
Everybody on the roster, I mean, Colin Chandler's probably going to get a few minutes.
You don't have a choice, right?
these guys are going to have to play.
So like you take Noah, Perry, and Chandler,
they're probably all going to get in at some point.
And then if one of them plays well,
maybe it gives them a chance to get rolling.
Yeah, you've got to think, even if Andrew Carr plays,
he's not going to be 100%.
He can't play a lot of minutes.
So I think Trent, Noah does get on the floor again.
And at least he's the one guy who brought a lot of effort down at Vanderbilt,
stuck his nose in there on a rebound and a loose ball
and fought for a couple balls.
And that's what earned him a lot more playing time.
Travis Perry is the thing.
though because Butler's out. So Travis Perry, like, do I think he can guard Lanier or Ziegler? No.
But do I think he may have to go out there and play? Yes. And so you know what, Travis? This is what I would say.
Let's not think about what you can't do. Let's think about what you can. When you get that ball and it's open, shoot it.
Travis Perry, Jackson Robinson, Kobe Brea, Almanor. If the four of you get the ball and have an open three, if I don't see it,
it go up, Shannon, I'm running to Knoxville to yet.
The four of them should shoot every single time they get it.
And O.A, if you ever get your confidence back, I'll put you on that list, too.
It feels like he's not confident in his jumper.
But those four guys, Robinson, Brea, Almanor Perry, I don't care what.
I don't want to see you pump faking.
Shannon, shoot the ball when you're open.
Yeah, I mean, we were talking before the season started, 30,
to 43 point attempts. It's been closer to 25, you know, 26.
We've been out shot. The other team has taken more threes than us in four of our six
SEC games. That can't happen. We're the three-point shooting team, especially tonight.
If you're open fire, if you miss it, you miss it, but that get, we're not going to beat
Tennessee going off the dribble. We're only going to beat them shooting threes, and those four
dudes should not pass up any, any open three the entire game.
Last question, Shannon, I'll go to you with this one.
One person writes, Matt, I'm up for a promotion at a police department.
They said I need to sell myself.
How would you guys recommend someone sell themselves in a job promotion interview?
Sell yourself.
Like, I'm the, how would you sell yourself?
I'm the hardest working person on the planet.
That's what you would say.
I like that.
Yes.
Yeah, I would say if you don't believe it about yourself, then nobody else is going to believe it.
Right?
So you should sit there and say, what are the things I'm good at?
And now let me say it with confidence.
Don't worry about it.
Settle yourself, but also say, this is a big thing, Shannon, say you work well with others
because everybody wants you to be able to work well.
That's true.
Yeah, you'd be able to get along with everybody.
Unless you work in a place like this where there's nobody here.
It doesn't really matter.
You don't have to work well with everybody.
or who's up next?
Richard.
Richard.
I think in a police department, though, you are going to have to work with other people.
In police, absolutely.
In police, I think you are.
Go ahead, Richard.
Well, I think.
Yeah, don't give you.
I'm just not listening to all these Kansas City conspiracy theories.
I saw this stat, and here's what I would say to you, Richard.
You're right.
I mean, have there been calls?
There was that sliding call, and I'm not saying there haven't been calls.
But I'd also say this.
I did look up this stat in the last 11.
In the last seven years, Kansas cities had 11 playoff games that came down to a final drive by Kansas City where they needed to score.
In those 11 games, Kansas City scored seven touchdowns and four field goals.
And Richard, how many flags have they thrown on those drives?
Zero.
Zero.
So at the end of the day, at the end of the day, they got to, I appreciate the call.
Game was tied.
Philadelphia, excuse me, Buffalo got the ball, Kansas City got the ball.
Kansas City scored, Buffalo did.
There you go.
Like, it's just, you know, it's like us.
We had some problems against Vandy, but then we were up seven with six minutes to go.
We got to win.
You got to win when you get to that point.
We didn't.
Neither did Buffalo.
And that's the way.
Who's next?
Propane man.
Propane man.
Propane man. Go ahead.
Yes.
At Baffel, people are calling in about local drama when we have two of the biggest games coming up this week.
And I feel like that's what we should be focusing on.
But other than that, first of all, local drama is great.
You're telling me that you don't care about what happened with Powell County and Montgomery County.
There was a fight.
Ryan Lemon was in attendance and he is biased and he comes.
You don't think that's interesting?
It is to a point.
But other than that, I'm focused on this Tennessee game.
Bray is going to come in. He's going to have a career
night, eight threes. We're going to
win by five. And to
the last caller on the pre-show,
he sounds like a guy that swallows. Thank you.
All right. Well,
I'm really glad you
did that.
If Bray hits eight three,
that dude, like, if that guy comes
in all holier than now,
and then he says that. Like, stop it.
How many threes, Drew, we got a hit tonight to win?
Oh, boy.
Tennessee doesn't score a lot of points.
I think I said they needed 13 to beat Alabama.
They had 11 lost by 5.
I was pretty spot on with that.
I'm going to say 14, getting crazy.
14, that would be 42 points.
I think we'd win with 14.
I like that number.
I think that's a good number.
I think we need more than we would against other teams
because against Alabama,
we were still able to get layups.
Ryan, you're not getting any layups.
tonight. Like, there's no
uncontent. We don't do well in contested
layups anyway, and Tennessee's probably
the best team in the country at
protecting the rim and, like, stopping you
from getting points at the basket.
Yeah, this game's going to be
in the 60s, maybe in the 50s.
So Kentucky has to find a way,
is the way the three-point shot goes down?
Yeah. What's that? If it's in the 50s,
we're losing. Like, we ain't winning in the
50s. Like, we got
to get to 70, and we might have to get
to 75.
I mean, if it's in the 50s, right?
We're not winning, right?
No.
I'd say even in the 60s, we're going to have a hard time winning.
They just got to find a way to get hot and outscore them because Tennessee has sales.
I'll tell you one thing.
I think we need to pull a Powell County if they bank in a three.
The moment they bank in a three, Mark Pope needs to take his team and get on the bus.
Because there's something going on with that crap.
And if it happens against the night, just leave.
I don't care if it's the first half.
Yeah, I'm fine pulling the Powell County.
Is that what we're going to call it now, Shannon, when you forfeit?
The Powell County, a bunch of quitters.
I think all
Powell County are quitters.
How about Ryan Lemon being there?
I still can't get over you to be in there.
Like, you?
I walked in and there was just this.
Why were you there?
Like it's a, like it's a
reporter at heart.
Yeah.
Yeah, nothing to do.
This is funny.
The referees at one point,
I forgot to tell you this,
went back to the locker room
and brought out the rule book
when they were trying to figure out
what to do after the Palat County players left the bench
and we're going through the little bitty,
KHSA a rulebook to figure it out.
I feel like it's pretty obvious, like when the other team
completely leaves the building that they have to...
I feel like I didn't need the rule book to say if the other team leaves,
the one team that didn't leave wins.
Yeah.
It's pretty obvious, I would think.
I like they had to get a rule book.
Is it not online?
It's like my Atlas.
They have a hard copy.
They keep in a bag back there.
Yeah.
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What are the commercials they run in Louisville, Shannon?
It was about bladder control.
P happens.
She started the commercial by saying P happens.
Yeah.
And I thought that had to be code for something, but she meant what she said.
Yeah, she said it happens in bed.
It happens in your car.
She said it happens in the car.
Just driving down the road?
Does that happen to you, Shannon?
You never tinkled while you were driving down the road?
Not just down the road?
Like, I'm not just driving down the road listening to the
pre-show just like here we go i mean i that makes people happy the pre-show makes people happy
you know i say to my bosses at i'm like we got to work on the ad sales in louisville yeah because like
in lexington we're sold out on the network we're sold out but in louisville i don't know what
happens but they don't always sell the inventory so they end up filling the rest of it which is crazy
because our ratings in louisville more people listen in louisville than even in lexington i heard they were
looking for an endorser for people that pee their pants and they're saying they were looking for an endorser for people that pee their
Would you like to do that?
But I don't.
I mean, it's all P happens.
And it's like, for those of you listening to Louisville, you always hear P happens, you hear, I'm not a lawyer.
You hear Trump watches.
And I'm like, Shannon, what is happening in Louisville that that's the commercials that run all the time?
I don't know.
You act like I pick the commercials.
I don't know.
I just play what's in the log.
I don't know what's going to come up next.
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It literally took 45 seconds.
So I did it during the break.
I try to do it every break after I read one.
Drew, you said you did a donation in honor of someone besides Mark Pope.
Yes, I felt I gave 50.
That's one for every time we've played Ziegler.
I'm hoping it'll give us a little magic before tonight.
And as soon as I did it, it hit me, I should have done 54 for Jody Meeks.
So before tip off, I might throw another 54 in there for some good vibes.
Yeah.
$50 for every time we've played Ziegler.
He has been there a long time.
And, you know, they don't have the same Croatian or Serbia.
They used to have Ryan, but they have a new one.
You remember they had that one dude for years.
He left, and now they got another one.
And I think this one's better than the other one was.
I'm not a pronounced exactly right.
But yeah, he's just a big, big butt post player that's going to push Amari around as much as the can tonight.
I was going to be, Shannon.
As soon as he said big.
I was holding my breath, please, Ryan, whatever's next.
But then it's always but.
Every time he does it, it's always but.
All right, so we've got to talk for just a second about Liam Cohen.
You know, I like Liam, but he's making it tough, Shannon.
You're not a fan, right?
Like, you're not a fan.
No, I don't trust this guy.
All right, so, you know, the NFL, like the NFL fan base,
sports fan base as a world as a whole doesn't really know Liam Cohen like we did in Kentucky,
Right?
Like they may have heard of him as who is the guy that's done a pretty good job with Tampa Bay.
But now he's a Jacksonville coach.
First thing they hear about him is the whole didn't tell his head coach he was going.
So they're already thinking he's a little shady, little weird.
And then he does this press conference yesterday.
And I don't know, man.
You know, they always talk about winning the press conference.
But Shannon, there might be some times that you definitively lose.
the press conference, right?
I think this was the case for him.
You don't think people can ruin their first impression in four seconds,
but maybe you can because for people who don't know in Jacksonville,
that's located in Duval County.
And you know they do this thing where they go Duval, right?
That's what they do.
Yes.
Does anybody go back me up on that's what they do?
That's what they do, right?
Yeah.
Well, Liam Cohen tried to do that.
And I don't know that it went exactly perfect.
Go ahead.
Do ball.
Now, he does it.
He raises, how would you describe his facial expression when he does it, Shannon?
He raises his eyebrows and what would you say that's expression?
He looks like a complete goober to me.
I'm playing one more time.
Duball.
And now everyone.
has made fun of him.
People, you know, Barstall retweeted it and just wrote Owen 17.
It is, there's a whole group of people around the country that all they know about Liam Cohen is this.
And I would be like, this is our guy, this guy?
You didn't play it again.
I thought you didn't play it again.
You usually.
There you go.
Drew, I know you like Liam Cohen.
What do you make of the fact that he's now like,
Everyone in the country is making fun of him.
When I saw this yesterday, and it's more than just the Duval,
he was kind of awkward all day.
I even told a few people, I didn't know Liam very well,
but I was around him enough when he was here, you know, doing interviews,
just seeing him out.
I didn't realize he was so corny.
Like he seems almost like a character from the office.
And that Duval, like, if you, it's your first day on the job, you're getting fired.
He did it like he's in the back row at church to someone next to him that's excited about the Jags game.
Like he's trying to keep his voice down and not do it too loud at the press conference.
That's what I was going to say.
He sounded like he was at the library.
And, you know, he's not a rah-rah guy to begin with.
He's trying to fake it, be a rah-rah guy, but like he's in the back of the library.
And he didn't even say it right.
You know, the emphasis is on the wrong part of it.
Like, he said it like a psycho.
He said it like a psycho killer is what he said it.
He said it like he's trying to.
This is what I think.
It sounds like he's at church or in a movie theater,
and he's trying to Shannon whisper to his girl.
Yeah.
In a really awkward way.
And then he does this.
Duval.
I mean, I just, it like runs up my back the way he does it.
He doesn't need to ever do it ever again.
He never needs to do it again, ever.
No, ever.
And now, the last coach to get mocked this much at their opening press conference
was Nick Siriani with the Eagles.
and he's been to two Super Bowls, Drew.
So now, you know, maybe they don't, maybe it works out for Liam.
But I'm not sure he could have been cringier.
I love what you said about the office.
He does seem a little bit like Kevin or something from the office.
Like it's, it's, I don't think it could have gone worse, Drew, for Liam yesterday, could it?
Did you see the clip of him walking into the building?
And he's not doing anything wrong.
He's just smiling.
It's his first time as a head coach.
So, I mean, whatever.
It was very uncomfortable just to why.
It's like he didn't know who to talk to or whose hands to shake.
Jacksonville didn't really help out.
They're just staring at him.
But he's like, hey, I like your belt.
My wife has that belt.
I was like, oh, this is weird.
He's so awkward in these videos.
And, you know, I don't remember him, Ryan, being really awkward here.
But it almost feels like when he crossed the state line in Florida, the cringe just went up a huge group of notches.
Yeah, I always got the impression.
kind of a little nerdy guy, like I said, not real charismatic, not a rah-rah guy whatsoever,
just really, really good at what he does.
What about planting roots, though?
He ran that one back, too.
That's true.
Yeah, man.
Plant roots in Jacksonville.
All right.
Well, we will take a break.
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