KSR - 2025-02-24- KSR - Hour 1

Episode Date: February 24, 2025

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Now here's Matt Jones. Welcome, everyone on Kentucky Sports Radio Monday. February the 24th, I'm Matt Jones here in Louisville, Kentucky. It is Flag Day in Mexico. So to all of our Mexican listeners, happy flag day. We got Ryan Lemon and Drew Franklin are in Lexington. Shannon is in the room next door to me. And you can give us a shout on the Clark's Pubbushup phone line 859-280-2287.

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That might actually make good. Can we do that? I'd have to come over there and, yeah. It's a whole thing? Not during the show. Okay. Well, at some point. 859-28027.

Ryan, we lost to Alabama in a game where we were up by double digits and then gave up the lead. And then yesterday the women lost to LSU in a game they were up by double digits in the first half and lost the lead. But in the Alabama game, which is what we'll focus on at first, great start up 20 to 9, I think even up at 1.30 to 18. And then all of a sudden the offense just kind of stagnated probably for about 10 minutes at the end of the second half. And you can't have any minutes against a team like Alabama where you don't score and we ended up losing. Yeah, my

overall takeaway was that I was not really disappointed with the team at all. I thought their effort was really good. I thought their energy was really good. They came out and shot the ball really well. I just feel like really being shorthanded, Alabama's just a better team. I mean, I think Kentucky played pretty well, but Alabama's

just better. You know, we sat there on the pregame show and we said, all right, Drew, what's the number that we have to hit? And I think the number I said was 84, but I said if we hit it, at 84, they're going to have to miss shots. Because I just didn't think there was any way we could score 95 to 100 with the team that

we were putting on the floor. And what's interesting, though, is that I think they all pretty much drew hit the moment, like the amount of points that they needed except Oway. And we just, I mean, I think O'A's over under was 21 and he had two. And honestly, without getting production from him, we just didn't have enough offensive firepower. Yeah, they just needed me. more from O way. If he could have gotten double digits, you're in it. And then Travis

Perry was, one for five from three. He played a decent game. If he could have just got some threes to go, Trent Noah missing all those two, you're in it. But for me, I went into that game thinking, I'm emotionless. This is house money. They're probably going to lose. Who cares? It won't affect the seating. We learned today they only dropped one spot. There's still a three seed. They went from 11 to 12. So it really didn't hurt you. But then at the end, I found myself, you know, beat up because they had a chance. So even though I thought I wouldn't get to that point. I was still pretty disappointed and how it all played out in the limit. Yeah, I thought I was so like this is a house money game right that I didn't even get

nervous watching it. Like I went to the, I went to the Turkey Hunter's house. I was in a group of people watching the game like 12 people. I just thought, well, we're not going to win. Who cares? And then all of a sudden you're up 30 to 18 and you go, well, wait a minute, you know, get back on defense. Come on, Brandy Garrison. Then all of a sudden, I'm right back to what I'm in a regular game because even though on paper winning at Alabama might be the hardest game you play all year, you know, for a while we look like we could play with them and then it just kind of collapsed. Yeah, I think you're right. I think it probably was overall their hardest game of the season going to Alabama and play them coming off a two-game losing streak. I knew

they would be play well. When Kentucky came out, started shooting the basketball, I think we all did get sucked in there for a little bit like, hey man, we can do this. We've beat good teams on the road before, so why can we do it tonight? We just got, we just you know, we just don't have enough scoring. And you can go, well, how do you talk about scoring when they scored 96? I mean, Drew, I don't know about you. I'm kind of giving up on our defense against good offensive teams. I think our defense has improved enough that we don't have to give up 85 to chump teams, but against Alabama, Auburn, Florida, you know, whatever. I'm just going to assume those teams are going to score a lot of points. And then the question is, are we

healthy enough to stay with them. And we're just, I just don't think, we're just not healthy enough. We don't have, you know, you got the amount of points you wanted from Kobe Brea. You got the amount of points you wanted from Amari Williams. You got the amount you wanted from Carr. Heck, you got, we said on the pregame show, 15 from the freshman, we got it. We got the 15. But we just didn't get the O way points and didn't get the Almanor points. And I think ultimately, maybe Drew, that's the difference. Yeah, you don't want to put it all on O way, but as your team's leading score this year to have two, that was pretty big hit and fouling out.

He was just never really in the game. He had the bad play where it got swiped and went the other way for a dunk. I think it was a four-point game at that point. I also thought my key to the game was stopping Grant Nelson. He had five. Four fouls. I mean, I thought they did a good job there. The 96 looks bad and you want to get disappointed,

but Alabama's number one in the country. The average 91-92 a game. So, I mean, that's kind of what Alabama does, Kentucky. Kentucky just needed a little more to hang with them and came up short in a few areas. So, you know, now a lot of the talk after the game was on the postgame show, Ryan. I was amazed after a 13-point loss how much of the chatter was officiating. People really, really, really, really didn't like the officiating. I even commented at one point during the game that I thought it was a really poorly

officiated game. And the calls, I think, went a little bit for Alabama. maybe 65, 35, 35 Alabama in terms of how I think. But at the same time, the free throws between the two teams Shannon was about the same. Yeah. The foul calls, we were called for three more, I think, than they were. So, I mean, it was basically about the same. I think there were some egregious bad ones.

But I do think, Shannon, that Terry Oglesby, I've always said this. When you know a ref's name, it's never a good sign. and him following Caliperi, or Calapetian, excuse me, Pope down, I'm used to refs following Caliperi, him following Mark Pope down the sideline to stare at him. I thought like is something that should get an official find by the SEC? Yeah, walking them all the way back down to the bench. Staring at him, waiting for him to say something.

He wanted him to say something. I saw Pope staring a couple of times too, though. He kind of gave that Tubby Smith stare a couple of times. No, he didn't. I thought maybe at one point though, That was where he's going to get teed up for the first time. Officials are supposed to be better. Yeah.

Like, Ryan, to me, officials are like police, right? We give police respect because, and they get power because we have to have somebody like that. But in exchange, I hold police to a higher standard than the average citizen because of the power that we give them. Similarly, I think referees should act, coaches act fools, but we give referees this power to make calls in games. And so referees should have a higher standard of behavior than coaches. So if a coach wants to stare down a ref, I'm all right with it. But a ref can't stare down a coach because they're on a higher plane of power in that game.

And that's why I thought his behavior was so bad. Yeah, you've really, I thought, I felt like he was just trying to. to bait Pope. He was trying to bait him into saying something so we get a team up. You remember a couple of years ago that the refs stepped up to Scott Padgett and Scott Padgett 611. He's like, are you stepping up to me right now? I don't know what gives the refs the Mark Pope is a foot taller than that guy. Yeah, that's true. You know, I just, I didn't like, so I didn't like that. Now, I do not think Drew we lost the game because of the officiating. I was surprised how many of our fans were taking that view. I'll ask you, Drew,

You get emotional about officials. I'm not saying I don't, but you do. We ended up on a lawsuit about it. What role do you think the officials had? I mean, I thought it was pretty terrible. I don't think it changed the game. And, you know, Mark Sears, that's how he plays. He does that Trey Young, like throw his head back as soon as he drives to draw fouls.

He's done that forever. He does that ever game. He's good at it. And unfortunately that night, they called them all. Really, I had the biggest problem of what you just said, the walking Pope down because Pope was basically standing in the far corner and he stopped play to chase Pope down to stare at him. And then the one, another one that really upset me is we get Travis Perry going to the rim

early in the game and he got absolutely hammered. It spun him around on that one. So I was pretty, I was fired up about some particular fouls, but overall, that's just kind of what Sears does and they were blowing the whistle every time. But there were a few that I was furious about, including the Perry layup. Mark Sears is a grade A, all-American. foul getter. He is a grade A, throw yourself into a guy, Shannon, and get a call.

He's as good as they get at that. I was thinking, who are the Kentucky guys that have been good at that? Ryan, think of it. Who are Kentucky guys that were really good at drawing fouls? I know we've had them. Yeah. Wall was good at it. Wall would draw a lot of fouls.

It seemed like Shea did. It was pretty good at it. She is a good call. Because Shea was long enough he could take the hit and still finish. Oh, way, this year isn't bad at it. I mean, I think he gets to the line quite a bit. He does, but he also gets blocked a lot. Tyler Ulyss's second season, he could get in the lane.

And even though, you know, half the size of everyone, he'd put his body in and extend his arm out and throw that layup, and he would draw fouls. Yeah, and he was little. But Sears is great at it. He's good. Sears is great. at it. So to some extent the referees are going to

fall for that because he's good at it. And he's an 80% free throw shooter. Yeah, that stinks. It feels like they shot free throws really well. I don't know what their percentage was. 85%. Yeah. So there you go. But when you play like that. He was 11 for 11. When you play like that, you force the ruffs to make that call. You do. That's what I've been saying all year about

we got to go into bodies. Now, I mean, Drew's right. Like when Travis Peer does that and doesn't get a call, it's frustrating. But you know, both Mark Popes and Kenny Brooks after the game ride and said, yesterday, I still don't know what a foul is in the SEC. They both said that yesterday or in their games this weekend. Well, I heard your postgame show and I heard the collars and I heard even you got a little a little tense, you know, clapping back at the collar a little bit. What do you mean I got tense? I don't get tense.

Well, what's the right word there? You got a little uptight? Spicy? Spicy. Spicy is a good word. You think I was being spicy? A little spicy? Yeah. I'm glad didn't your mom text you said, hey, you need to calm down.

She didn't say you need to calm down, okay? She said you sound, what was it? She said, something like you sound frustrated. Yeah. But to be honest, I was with you. I was with you. The collars I thought were a little over the top. Yeah.

She wrote, you seem frustrated. Yeah. Well, you definitely seem frustrated. I feel like when you, I don't want, I don't want our fan base to be the boy who cries wolf, Shannon, right? Yeah. Like if every game, I mean, we lost by 13. and if every game it's the refs fault,

then when it is the refs fault, no one's going to listen to it. Right. Because you hear all the time, Kentucky fans complaining about the refs. Complaining about the files. All the time. I mean, you go to the comment section on social media

after any loss. Always somebody blaming the refs. Doesn't matter. Yeah. So overall, we knew, I mean, all year, I thought this was the game. This was a game we weren't going to win. So it's not a huge deal.

Now we play Oklahoma Wednesday, and that's a bigger deal. And so the question is, what's going to happen with Butler and Robinson. I have Drew Scuttlebutt update on both. Okay, we like that. Scuttlebutt. From

the ships of the British Admiral Age. Scuttlebutt update. And we will take your calls. Open lines. Are you just not going to answer the one call? You just don't want to answer that guy's call Shannon? I see that he keeps ringing. You just don't want to talk to him? We'll take anybody. Yeah, but then when

we put them on, don't be complaining to me. Why are we taking a news call? Is that what you think I sound like? I don't sound like that. 8.9-280-2287. We'll take a break. Be right back. KSR.

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If I were to say, give me the best spaghetti. Six full lines. Oh, yeah. Kentucky plays Alabama on the road. Phone lines are open. They don't have an opinion on that. They don't have an opinion. Now, they have an opinion.

So you wonder, Matt, why do you talk about spaghetti? Yeah. There you go. Now, what is also interesting, Ryan, is how our fans pick the same players for guys drawing fouls. There are three players that have each been voted for 10 times since I said that out on the text machine. 772-745254. we mentioned a couple of them. You mentioned Tyler Ulyss, right?

I mentioned John Wall. Would you like to know the other ones that have gotten 10 votes? Yes, let's hear it. Isaiah quickly. Or excuse me, Emmanuel quickly. Uh-huh, yeah. I can see that. Yep.

Automatic at the line, too. Isaiah Briscoe. Yeah, I wouldn't have thought of him, but that's what I would have. Because he wasn't a good free throw shooter, Drew, and so he would go to the line and I would drive me nuts because he did draw a lot of foul. historically bad free throw shooter for a guard. He was under 60% for most of the year. But he drew a lot of fouls.

I'd be interested to go back and look. I bet you he was one of the leading, his last year, one of the getting the most free throws. And then this is a really good one. Because Ryan, he got a ton. Was Andrew Harrison. Oh, yeah. Yeah, see, I didn't think about him.

But now you say that. Yeah, yeah, he did. He could draw a lot of them because he would come. He would throw himself into a guy. and then basically throw it up and make the referee make a decision. And he was a decent free throw shooter. He was. I can back those up with some numbers.

All right. The most free throws per season. A lot of them are big men, obviously. But Wall and Ulyss are 8 and 9 and Andrew Harrison is 15. That's all time. Kenny Walker's number one, Dan Isle, Julius Randall. But of the guards, those three are up there. So look at that.

Just from the collective mind, Shannon, of BBN, we got three of the top 15. That's pretty good. All right, who else are guards? Because Julius Randall would have certainly been on there. Besides Wall, Ulyss, and Andrew Harrison, who else are guards? In any area. Well, Meeks is number two all time behind Kenny Walker? But is that per year in his career?

It's one season. One season. Top seasons. Okay. His last season. Outside the, well, Fox is 17th. Deeran Fox. Monk 22nd, quickly 23rd, Shea 25.

So, yeah, we're doing pretty good job there. Heck, how about that, Shannon? about the BBN's collective intelligence there. Trying to think of any other ones on the... So the only one that wasn't, that people mentioned that wasn't on the list was what, quickly? Everybody else was on there? No, quickly's 23rd.

Brisco, I don't see Briscoe. Okay, maybe it's just all the misses. Maybe they didn't want to include a miss. The percentage was too bad. All the misses made it feel like it was... Archie Goodwin coming in. Yeah, that would have been a good one because he would just run up and throw it at the basket. And Ramele is another guard at 27. That's about it for the guards in the top 30.

Nice job, people. UK fans. Let's go to Reed. Go ahead, Reed. Good morning. How are you guys? Good. Just a little nuance on the referee event. So NFL has a rule that refs can only ref two games of a team in a year, one at home and one away. I think that UK fans like me, a question why it is that Doug Schaows always gets assigned to a key game, number one. Number two, this year has reached epidemic proportions, Matt, because the referees, this is the first year I've seen where UK has had multiple games where the opposing team shoots more free throws at our board. That's true.

But some of that is that we shoot so many. We're not a physical team. I appreciate the call. I mean, that's a fair point, except we don't draw fouls because we don't drive to the basket a lot of our guys. So like, I'm not surprised. Let me quickly tell you how referees are assigned, Ryan, because people don't realize this. Every referee is a conference referee. Is that right, Ryan?

They work for a conference. But they can work for multiple conferences. And most of them, I think they're not allowed to work for more than like four. But Ryan, they work for four conferences. And they usually get two or three big ones and then a small one. And they can do up to five or six games a week because there's no one nationally scheduling their schedule. So they make their own schedule. And Ryan, some of them want to work every single night of the week.

Yeah, I saw our Brent Hampton from here in Kentucky, He had the St. John's Connecticut game on Friday night. And then Saturday he had an SEC game with Cala Perry. So, yeah, they do bounce around conferences. They go from conference to conference and often night to night. And there are guys who will do five or six a week. And with that travel, Shannon, there's no way you can be 100%. No, no, you would think they would limit how many games you can do.

But you get paid by the game. So their incentive, because college basketball season is only like four months, is to do as many as they can't. Right. And if I were a college ref, I would probably do the same thing. Probably do the same thing. So there has to be a point since they make their schedule. So the SEC will assign, say, you know, Doug Schaels or Olsvee, the games. But then he can go do other games for other conferences and he will. And so when you get him for a big game, you don't know, you know, what is conditioning.

I mean, imagine if you were traveling six nights a week in a different arena running up and down the court. you'd be exhausted. These are not exactly like specimen athletes. A lot of times they're just getting right in a rental car and driving through the night to get to the next stop. Yeah. Kind of like a professional wrestler. No, they are like a professional wrestler.

They are exactly like a professional wrestler. Let's go to, I got a minute, right, Shannon? Let's go to. You got like three minutes. Oh. Yeah. Is this clock right? We go to, I'm getting the ESPN and the, I'm sorry,

I'm getting those clocks confused. Let's go to George. George. ESPN ends at 26, we end at 29. That's right. All right. All right, go ahead, George. Good morning, guys.

How are y'all doing? Good. So I think everyone is overthinking what happened on Saturday and kind of where we are. We are missing our two best players, and we have been. And our third best player had his worst game of the year. Some other guys didn't play great. I mean, you really look at the roster that Pope has played. on the floor.

I mean, we're being held together with chicken wire and bubble gum, and we went in and almost knocked off Bama. We've knocked off other teams, you know, in similar condition to where we are. I think we need to relax and see where we are in a couple weeks. We head into the tournament. If we're still banged up, we've got a problem. I think that's a perfect. We are back to health.

This is a dangerous team. I think that's appreciate the call. That is a perfect. If you want to make a really positive statement, which I like, Ryan, that's the perfect case to make. Yeah, and they've got the games to back up his argument when they won at Tennessee. You know, a few big gave them short-handed to win that game and they did. So, yeah, this team, they get 100% healthy.

They can definitely make some damage in March. I think I said in the post-game show, Drew, if this team is fully healthy, we're underseated. And if we're with the roster we have right now, we're probably overseeded. Do you agree with that? Yeah, definitely. And I know Pope himself has said I'm not using injuries as excuse, but me where I sit on my couch, I'm giving them an excuse. I mean, you can't lose players that critical to your lineups and still expect to win a bunch of ball games. I saw that Evan Mayakawa.

He always tweets like the best lineups in basketball. Yes. He tweeted Kentucky's best pairing, like two guys in at the same time. And of the top 10, Kentucky can only play like one or two of them right now because they all involve Butler or Robinson, you know, just all of Kentucky's best options they can't go to. Yeah. And then you're right. O'Way has two points. So you tell me you lose your three best perimeter players. And if I told you back in December, Shannon, we're going to play at Alabama, and Robinson Butler and O'Way are going to combine for two points.

No way. You get blown out. You would think you'd lose by 50. Right? I mean, so there is a sense, I think, where, as the caller makes, that you actually do need to be a little calm about it. I am calm about it. We get our whole roster back. I like our chances in the tournament. If we don't, then Ryan, I'm booking one weekend.

That's just kind of how it is, right? I think you know, they get a normal game from O'O way. They could even have won that game Saturday. 859-280-2287. We're going to take a break. Be right back. KSR. T.J. Smith, personal injury attorney.

Call T.J. He'll make them pay. Now, more of Kentucky Sports Radio, presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones. Yes, it's all over now, Shannon, and it sure is Monday. That's right. 859-280-2287. There's apparently a website, Shannon, called Philly Ref, like Philly, like Philadelphia. And it will tell you everyone who's ever reffed any game in college basketball.

That's pretty interesting. Does it break down like the games they've done? Yeah. Like it says, like if you wanted to go see who just did Clemson S. you know, Clemson, NC State in 1996, you would know. So I wonder if we could see, like, which games did Kentucky lose the most? Well, somebody does that for Kentucky refs, too. I don't know who it is.

But can you imagine, Drew, creating that website? I'm going to be the guy that keeps track of who officiates every game in college basketball. I'm actually wondering if that's my dad, because about every night, I'll get a text. I'm like, Roger Ayers is Illinois. and I, you know, he's watching the refs more than anyone. I think I get a lot of... You think your dad did the website. Listen, any given night you can text Mike Franklin and say,

where's Roger Ayers doing? Yeah, where's Don Daly and he knows. Roger Ayers, by the way, somebody just sent me, Ryan, worked 31 straight nights in November and December. Come on. Well, I guess, you know, you got to make your money during basketball season because there aren't any games. But I mean, there's no way those dudes can be at 100%. We can't even play Amari 30 minutes in a game. without I'm getting tired, yeah.

Can we talk about that for a minute? Yes, please. Play the best players more. Amari Williams was great in that game. Why is Amari Williams only playing 25 minutes? Why? He only had one foul. Why? Why? Why? When Kentucky went up, Alabama went on two runs,

and both runs is when Amari was on the bench. Both of them. Why? these like we're at the end of the year. Are we going to see this in the tournament? Like I don't mean this to be rude, but am I getting 15 minutes of Brandon Garrison in every game in the tournament? Like, why can't we play Amari more minutes? Why? I agree. It seems to be a Pope thing because if you go back to all his other teams, whether it be BYU, Utah State, he doesn't have guys that average more than 30 minutes a game. Most like dudes don't, it's like 27, 28 are the leader. So part of me wants to tell.

Amari to get off the bench and get in there and wonder if he's conditioned, but also Pope just historically doesn't play guys 30 minutes. Shannon, when we're in the NCAA tournament, let's say we're fully healthy. I want but, all right, so how many total minutes are in the game? Five players, 40 minutes, 200 minutes, right? Yeah. Butler Robinson, Oway Brea, Carr Williams. I want 180 plus minutes from those six guys.

You should be getting that. I mean, at this point in the season, you know, Caliperi used to do it all the time when he would get down to seven guys and those were the only seven guys would play. At this point, you got to maybe start tightening down the roster a little bit and who you play instead of just letting everybody get minutes. When we won the national championship, Drew, we played six guys. Six guys. We had Teague, Lamb, Gilchrist Jones, Miller, Davis. That was it. Eloy Vargas would play a couple minutes, Wilcher, a couple minutes.

but we basically played six guys. They need Amari especially. I know he's having to do more than anyone right now because he's kind of running the offense and he is the defense, but the team's average minutes per game. He's sixth this season. Come on. Sixth and minutes.

Foul troubles one thing, but he only have one foul. Yeah, he's averaging 22 minutes a game. Part of that there are games where he's had foul trouble and didn't get to play much. But overall, that guy still needs to be playing a lot more. You think Pope was just trying to keep him fresh in case into the game? I said this on a post game show that one of the announcers that went to a game, I won't say which one, but it wasn't Tom Hart. One of the announcers that went to a game told me that he went to a,

talk to Pope about minutes. And Pope has this thing he believes called maximum efficiency. And he thinks that you need to play your players, the amount of minutes that gives them the most maximum efficiency when they're in, and that he has a set amount that he thinks each player can play to reach their maximum efficiency. I believe all that, Shannon. Yeah. But I don't care. I would rather have 80% Amari than 100% Brandon Garrison on most occasions. We don't think that he could go out there and still put up some numbers post his

maximum efficiency minutes. I do. I do believe it. Nancy, go ahead and Nancy. Oh, okay. Thanks for taking my call. So it was awful what they did to Amari when the Re-Ling USA. USA. Now, Alabama doesn't have any exchange, you know, foreign students. They do. They have a Nigerian player. Okay. We got guarding Amari.

Oh, okay. So, you know, I mean, that's awful. I mean, and you know there's a lot of students that go to Alabama that are from different countries. I just thought it was awful. And I hope Amari can get past that, which I'm sure he can. But it was bad. And as far as social media goes, people that get on there and complain about Pope and complain about the team, we are out three starting guards.

Come on. I agree with you. I appreciate the call. To your first point. Ryan, I didn't like the USA Chan. I mean, as I said on the postgame show, I wouldn't have gone up there and tried to fight people. But at the same time,

it's one thing to like boo that. It's one thing when you're playing for Team USA. When you're playing for Team USA and you go play against France, in France, you're going to get booed. And when France comes and plays in the USA, they're going to get booed. But this is not a nationalism game. This is Kentucky versus Alabama. And I don't like the USA chant.

Do you have a right to do it? Of course you do. But there's a lot of things you have a right to do that you just shouldn't do because it's rude. I mean, later on that night, Arizona fans chanted Blankin Mormon at the BYU fans. Is that right? No. No. No.

Not at all. No. And you can go, I was just kidding, lighten up, my hat, Snowflake. But just don't be rude. You can yell at him, make a joke about tea and crumpets or the queen. But the USA chant at someone from a foreign country is just a, you know what it is. You know why you're doing it. I would feel the same way if I was in Mexico and they're like chanting.

You know, well, I guess wait a minute. Well, and they were chanting Mexico at a player from America. Like, you just don't need to do it, Ryan. So, I mean, am I going to go tell these college kids they're the worst people? No, but I wish schools wouldn't do that. And if we did it, and I've been told we have done that in the past, although I don't remember it, we shouldn't do it either. Like we said, the thing that puzzled me was that their starting center was from Nigeria.

They, you know, they didn't know where he was from. they're trying to get that at Mari, but I don't think they forgot they have a foreign exchange student on their team also. Drew, what do you think on that? That and Terry Oglesby chasing Mark Pope had me seeing red at home. I love America. I chant USA.

But for some reason, I was so angry at them doing that. Part of it was also the stupidity that the guy literally with his body against Amari Williams is not from America that's on their team. But yeah, it got under my skin pretty bad. But the Alabama A fan saw me tweet about it, Shannon. They all started tweeting, you don't love America, Matt.

Or I guess you ain't in America. And here's my view. And I appreciate the call on Nancy. Here's my view on that. You want to know somebody's rich? They don't have to tell you they're rich, right? If you want to know somebody's good looking, do they have to tell you their good looking? Do they have to be like, look how good looking I am?

No. Rich people don't tell you their rich. The people who tell you they're rich probably aren't rich. The people who tell you they're good looking probably aren't good looking. You can love America without like wearing U.S. thongs outside. We've got to get you a U.S. thong now. American flag. You know, when I was a kid, I think I've said this before,

my grandfather thought, Shannon, you shouldn't wear your, you shouldn't wear a flag ever that it was disrespectful. Yes. That was like, like the fact that that's now become normal, he would be, like he, you he served in World War II. And he was like, people who wear a flag, like, even the ones who think they're, like, he thought that was the most disrespectful thing you could do. He thought the flag was supposed to be revered, not worn as a piece of clothing. Right. Yeah, I don't think I own a piece of American flag clothing. Do you, do you have like a... I mean, I do have a onezy that we got from...

Oh, yeah. What was that, what was that thing we used to do ads for? Was it... Nut dust? That was a different thing we did that for. That was a different one. That was a different one. It was like something elves, wasn't it? Tipsy elves. Tipsy elves. Yes.

Yeah. You have an American flag tipsy elves? They sent me a bunch of them and one of them was an American flag onesie. Oh, dude. I have one too. I still wear it. You got to put that on. I wear it sometimes when I'm feeling kind of.

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that it's the fact that they played this every day at my kid school yeah and it's and people know that's how long of a song it is it's like three minutes yeah yeah Well, we had an extended version. It had like a musical intro. And when you were a kid, three minutes after the Pledge of Allegiance and after the National Anthems, a lot of time to be standing. Yeah. You know.

I guess it's a long song. It is a long song. I was really only three minutes. I thought it was like 10. Three minutes and nine seconds. I will say when I met him at the grand old opera, he couldn't have been nicer. And I said to him, I had to listen to your song every day when I was a kid. And he was like, really?

So I guess Middlesbrough was the only school that. did that. Get them those royalties every time they played it. I wonder who it was at Middlesbrough that made everybody that started. Because apparently I don't think other schools did that. We didn't do it. We didn't do it. We had to say the Pledge of Allegiance.

Yeah, the Pledge of Allegiance, I'm fine with. I just don't know that we need to do this. And then only in America. Like there just comes the point. We get it. We're all patriotic. We get it. It sounded like you all spent like an hour.

Yeah, we did. It was a hits. It was the hits. And every time they'd add a new. one. Darrell Worley, what was this song about 9-11? Oh, have you forgotten? I bet they play that now, too.

About her pent or gone. What did you think, Drew, about the new bloods, the blue bloods scratched out, new bloods on T-shirt? One, it's good to know, Kentucky still everyone's Super Bowl, but, you know, it's, I don't like the idea of giving Alabama that credit of being a new blood, blue blood, but their record in the SEC. lately, it's hard to talk about about them. I mean, they have owned the conference until this year with Auburn really hit running away with it.

I didn't bother. It didn't bother. I actually thought that was kind of clever. Yeah, they've kind of earned it. They've earned it. That's what I'm going to say. Both Auburn and Alabama, I think of both kind of earned that title now. Yeah. One person writes, Matt, instead of chatting USA, they should have chanted beans for breakfast at Amari.

Do British people eat beans for breakfast? Oh, yeah. I've talked to Amari. He can't find an English breakfast in town. I told him one. What kind of beans? Is it like Pinto? I mean, I've spent a lot of time in England.

I don't know what, I don't know that. What are they're, yeah, they're similar to like brown beans, little tomato, little egg. So they eat like, so it's like pinto beans. Is that right? I don't remember. They're smaller than pinto beans. I don't know exactly what they would be. They have like their, their version of bacon.

See, when I was, yeah, now that's like ham. It's like Canadian, like, yeah. So I've eaten that. They eat English muffins quite a bit. bit, but I don't think I've ever seen beans for breakfast. Here's the answer, according to AI. They say baked beans, usually with navy beans and cooked and tomato sauce. I've never seen that.

Beans on toast. When I'm in New York, you know, I'm known to frequent Jack Dempsey's. That usually brings me back to life. I bet our UK alums and up in New York know all about the breakfasts. I didn't know that was a thing, which is crazy. But I had no idea. Real quick. Scuttlebutt, Ryan. I think Butler will be full practicing this week. The goal is to play him in the

Auburn game. I think LSU game at the latest for senior night. Jackson Robinson would like to play him for senior night. Not sure that's going to happen. Goal is the SEC term. Well, I'm taking it. I mean, at least there are trajectory to get back on the court at least by the end of the season of both of them. So I like that. So I think we're probably Absence some change today going to see Oklahoma without both guys. So cross your fingers. We need it. They got a big win.

Yeah, they did. They got a big win Saturday. If they beat us, they're probably in the tournament. So, like, that'll be a huge game for them. Derek. I'll say homecoming for Oway. Yeah. Go ahead, Derek.

Derek. Hey, this is Derek. Longtime, listener, first time caller. Who are? Can you hear me? Yes. Hey, thanks. So, you know, you got me to call in because earlier you were mentioning something about spaghetti.

And, you know, my favorite kind of spaghetti is bake spaghetti. I had a buddy once who told me that he had some really good baked spaghetti on a buffet at a gentleman's club. All right. I appreciate the call. Shannon, baked spaghetti. I'll tell you who used to make really good baked spaghetti was the old spaghetti factory in Louisville. Oh, yeah. Is that place still open?

It is. It's right down a couple blocks. from here. It's still open after all these years. Yeah. You know, that was for a long time, like the only place to eat in downtown Louisville. When I was a kid, it was the old spaghetti factory. You know who else has really good baked spaghetti. Who's that? Pizzoles. I mean, you'll get it right through the crowd through, man. Yeah, that's true. The bread sticks. I mean, it's perfect. I haven't been to old spaghetti fact. Will you, let's go some time. You want to go to old spaghetti factory? When's the last time you've been to old spaghetti factory? My high school prom?

Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying. Ryan, now that Hooters is declared bankruptcy, next meeting is an old spaghetti factory. All right. Call the meeting. We'll be there. See, I kind of want old spaghetti factory. I didn't know it's still open. I'm shocked it's still open.

You get ice cream after it's over? Do people, who goes? Somebody's going. I mean, it's still open. I haven't heard anyone talk about old spaghetti factory in 15 years. I guess they don't eat advertising. They're just, you know, a staple. Now I kind of want it like right now.

Well, you can leave. We can do the rest of the show. Wait a minute. I'm in Louisville. I could go. That's why I said it's two blocks from here. You want to go get lunch there on me? You want to get lunch at Old Spaghetti Factory?

I think I got other things going on. You know what? Jay and Lyndon, go ahead. Hey, before I asked my question, you brought to advertising. What advertisement do you look back and think, why the hell did I ever do that? You mean, what did I endorse? Yes. Oh, wow.

The answer is nothing, because we would never. endorse anything that we don't believe in. Yeah, I mean, so I've turned down, there's some people on this show that one endorse anything. Brian. Shannon. And Shannon as well. I turn down over half the endorsements because I'm like, if it's not real, I won't do it. And I don't really do alcohol unless there's a specific, I try not to do alcohol. So the short answer is I can't think of one because usually I've used the product. We did a thing once for one of those like, you can get a, job site things or whatever. And I knew it wouldn't work, but they paid a lot of money, so we did it.

So that's the closest one. But like, I don't endorse things unless, because I just, it's, I don't know, I don't want to feel bad about it. It's like Richard Petty. Richard Petty wouldn't put a beer company on his car. And for some reason, that always stuck with me. But go ahead. So, hey, on the referene, I think you would agree the SEC officials let stuff go this

year. Yeah. That potentially is going to hurt. if hurt teams in the SEC if we get a tight whistle in the tournament. Yeah. But how do you think that hurts or benefits us? We need the game to be called, honestly. We probably need the game to be called loose because we don't draw fouls.

Right? So we don't, because we don't draw fouls, like a tight whistle doesn't help us if we're shooting jump shots. You know, I appreciate the call. So for us, I think games where there's a lot of fouls, Drew, probably hurt us because we don't draw fouls as well no matter what. So I almost wish we had a loose whistle so that maybe we can foul them a little more. And we don't have anyone that does the Mark Sears, throw your head back, or extend your right arm while throwing your body to the left when you're the one creating contact and still drawing a foul. And even like I noticed in the Alabama game, Andrew Carr, even with good position in the post, He scored on it, but he turned around and did a little fade away.

It's just a different style of basketball. You're not going to get the whistle as much as someone that's trying to go straight up into a guy's arms and draw that fell. Totally agree. What do you have to do for lunch instead of going to the old spaghetti factory? Oh, I got to put the podcast, and I got two afternoon shows, and I got all kinds of stuff going on. So you're just not interested in having old spaghetti factory. If you want to go to Fazoli's, that's a different story. So you don't want to go to the factory.

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