KSR - 2025-02-26- KSR - Hour 2

Episode Date: February 26, 2025

Matt, Ryan, Drew, and Shannon talk Kentucky vs. Oklahoma, plane crashes, and your calls.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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all right? Not right here in the middle of the microphones. It is a beautiful day here in Lexington. Yesterday got up to 70. I was walking around people in shorts. I can't wait. Drew and I are going to the UK baseball game today. I can't wait. Who do they play today? Morehead state. What time's that game? Four o'clock. Four o'clock. Our pregame show will be at 6.30. Are they just going to boot the baseball game off the air if it's not done? Didn't think about that. I wonder if the baseball game's on a different channel. Like they put it on 98.5 or something.

Yeah, I'm not sure. One person writes and goes, Matt, if you don't mind, I'll bring you all actual information on your plane stuff. I work in plane technology. Used to work at the FAA, but retired last year. First of all, there are not more near misses now. We're just paying more attention to it.

And we're actually so far in 2025 about on the same pace as the last few years, and it's been going down since the 1990s in near misses. So that's good news. If that's accurate, that is good news. Why wouldn't you believe this person? Well, if he's in the flight industry, maybe he's wanting us to think that. Yeah. Do you just, like, not believe anything anyone says?

Unless it's on the Internet, then I believe it. But that's what's interesting about you. Like, someone can be an actual expert. You really represent modern American in some ways. Like someone can be an actual expert and you don't believe them. But you could see just a shiny graphic with flowers on the Internet and you'll believe it. Like old people, I don't want to be mean. But that's kind of an older generation.

They have started to distrust everyone except things that show up on their Facebook page. And then they totally believe that. I just find that an interesting dynamic. I can understand you don't believe anything. I think that's a bad way to live life, but I could understand it. But like, to not believe people who it's their job. But then your aunt sends you a graphic and you retweet that. And then when you go, that's not right, people are like, you know.

It's like, I just find that. And Ryan is that. Sadly, there are a lot of people who think that if it's on a graphic with words, it has to be official, when anyone with a computer can put. anything on a graphic and put it on Facebook. Anyone can put anything. Let me finish what he said here. He said, in the late 1970s, the plane industry was deregulated.

What led then to happen was in the next 10 or 15 years, the industry exploded. More private aircraft led to more flights, aircraft expansion, et cetera. We added hundreds of FAA agents during that time, and that's how flights became safer. However, those people are now reaching their retirement agent. And the retirements in the last three to five years have exploded. We are not replacing them. And that does make it a little bit more dangerous. So that's an interesting.

See, I buy that. Every line he just said, every word he just said right there. But you didn't buy the first part. No, I'm telling you, if there were close calls in this day and age, we would all know about. There's somebody on that. He says there are 1,300 close calls a year. Oof, that's insane. That doesn't make me feel good.

No. Okay, but you just said we would know about it. How would you know? I think because the people on the plane. everything that happens? No. I think the people on the plane would put it out there.

But how would you find out? Well, I know when I'm coming down to land. Oh, how would I find out what they did? Yeah, so let's say there was... Probably the internet. But you're not... You can't read the entire internet. So, like, if there was a...

Okay, let's just take that thing that happened yesterday. Yeah. What if there just wasn't a video? You think you'd still know? I think that they would be reported on news agencies. How do you explain there's $1,300 a year?

I can't. That's crazy. Be honest. Did you even know about it until Matt talked about it last hour? Because I didn't. Well, I just heard about it on the morning news. Oh, okay. I didn't even hear about it on the Matt's report.

I'm just saying, like, I think sometimes what you choose to hot. Let me give you a perfect example of this. Let's take, like, the intricacies of Kentucky basketball. Okay. Okay. when there is like a team turmoil we may if we if let's say there's a fight if it doesn't get out

does that make it any less of a fight let's say Jackson Robinson and Lamont Butler got in a fist fight all right and let's say somebody found out and it got reported we would go oh no this team is in turmoil they don't like each other blah blah but that same fight could happen

and it doesn't get out and it doesn't make it any less of turmoil You just don't know about it. And I think sometimes we act like we know everything. We don't know. How many people knew what was really happening with Cal the last few years? Not many. Not many.

And it was a disaster. But because the general public didn't know, they didn't act like it was a big deal. So it may just be these happen all the time. It's just now we know. And it supports you. Dante has said, man, there's a fight at football practice just about every single day. Yeah. And we never hear about it.

And we never hear about it. Yeah. But so nobody goes to teams in turmoil, but if one of them leaked out on a video, we'd discuss it for a month. Well, there was that video that came out of a fight in the locker room UK a couple years ago, and it was everywhere. But, you know, to your point, if it hadn't been a video, that fight still happened. And remember that when that video came out, it was like three years old. The guy didn't want him on the team anymore. It wasn't even the current team.

Yeah, right. So, so anyway, that actually, that actually, that. message makes me feel better because I bet you there are close calls all the time. It makes me feel worse if they're really 1,300 close calls a year, but that's the thing. Would you rather know or not know? I probably would not. I wouldn't want to know. Yeah.

I agree with you on that. It's like knowing how your food is made besides the food at KS Bar. You also got to think about how many flights there are. Yeah, think about how many flights there are. 1300 close calls, but about 100,000. Close calls, how many flights are there a day? Like a gazillion. 1300 close calls may not be that much.

It feels like that's a lot. Well, that's the thing about you, is that facts don't matter. It's just how you feel. Yes. And that's what you care about. Okay. Did you see the Georgia Florida game last night? It's now on the replay right here.

Georgia was up 26 in the first half. Just absolutely annihilated them. Florida then came back. With a minute and a half left took the lead and had two free throws to make it a three point lead. They make one of two. Georgia comes down. They bring in the little dude named Blue or whatever that killed us. He hits a three.

They take the lead in Georgia after giving up a 26 point lead ends up still winning. Here's the interesting part of the game to me. The AD got on the mic. Did you see this? He got on the mic and said, please, this was during a time. out. Please don't storm the court. As a matter of fact, if you'll wait until after the Florida team gets to their thing,

then you storm the court and we'll give somebody here $10,000. Oh. And that's what they did. The fans actually let Florida get off the court, waited 90 seconds, and then stormed the floor. And then it's okay. Now, we just talked about this the other day with Vandy if we thought that would work. Drew, it actually worked last night. It's now happened twice, too.

Did Missouri do it recently? Missouri just kept them off the court. Yeah, but it's kind of neat in the video. The students are so antsy. They're almost like dogs being held back, and the AD's standing there with his arms up, and then he just lowers his arms, and then there they go, and they dodge the fine.

It seems like that's going to be the way to do it. That may be the future now for court-storming is doing it that way. But it's not quite as exuberant. It's like playing at that moment, but they did it. You still get to have your phone on the court. You just got wait a little longer. So I was watching the game, and I could hear in the background what the AD was saying,

because they were, you know, the announcers were talking over it. And I heard him say we will give like, what was it, $10,000 or something to a student if you won't do it. And I was like, well, that's just not going to work. And it did. And then it did work. Wow. So I just found that kind of interesting. I think for people like at Georgia, they're going to listen because they don't get to do it very often.

You know what I mean? they're like, okay, we're going to do this the right way so we can do it again next time. I saw Kirby Smart also said something to. He was parted with the AD and getting everybody to stay back. Yeah, he was like, we need to win a title. Y'all shut up. Speaking to that, I think an interesting little news story that may have gotten overlooked, the University of Georgia announced that of the $22 million you can give to players next year, to athletes.

They're going to have 13.5 to football. Now you can do the math, that's probably like, what, 58, 60 percent, something like that. I think the assumption will be if Georgia does that, then that's kind of what everybody's going to do, wouldn't you think? They set the point? I think so. I think if they're doing 13.5, that's probably an SEC directive. They're just the first to say it, and they're probably all going to do the same thing. What I find interesting about that is that is actually less than I thought.

I thought football was going to do like 15 or 16 of the 22, 13.5, which says to me, I think the SEC is going to put more money in basketball than I thought, probably put some in women's basketball and baseball, but 13.5 of the 22 million towards football. What do you think of that? I thought it would be higher. Football in the SEC is king. I really thought that number would be closer to 16, 17 million, to be honest. Yeah, basketball is getting like 3 million.

I feel like for Georgia basketball to split up 3 million, that's higher than I would have thought it'd be. I thought they'd really focus on football. Did they say that's what basketball was? Yeah, I saw a tweet with like the whole breakdown. What was women's? Just under a million, like 900,000. What about baseball?

I think it said like the rest will split. I don't remember exactly. I just remember the men's basketball was right at 3 million. Well, 13 and a half million for football. Like I said, that's about 2.5. I thought it could be up to 75% for football. So basketball, I think what's interesting is maybe because of the taste of success they've had this year, the SEC's like, we're going to spend money on basketball.

So the SEC will set a ceiling like Alabama can't say, hey, Georgia's just given $13.5 million. I don't know. Maybe they could. I don't know. I don't think they've, but I do think that being the first one out and it being the program that's been the most consistently good was probably intentional. And it came out yesterday. Who's up next? Let's go to Mark.

Mark, go ahead, Mark. Yeah, how are you guys doing? Good. I know I'm not supposed to ask that. The first person that comes to mind when you talk about Oklahoma and that you guys have probably never heard of is a great artist who's a Texas legend named Jamie Richards. Well, if he's a Texas legend, why would he come to mind with Oklahoma?

Because he's from Oklahoma, and then he went to Nashville, and he was two country for Nashville. He wouldn't buy into the Nuevo country, and so he went to Texas and he has a number of Texas chart number one hits. And I think you would like him based on the way you describe your music tastes. And what's his name? That's number one. Jamie Richards.

All right, I'll look it up. What's your second thing? The second thing is I would like to know from Ryan how you get from Kentucky to Missouri without going through either Tennessee or Illinois unless you get on a ferry. He's probably right about that. There's no way to get from far western Kentucky into state of Colorado, Missouri. The bridges are in the other states. The bridges are in Illinois.

Ah. And then in Tennessee. So he's right. You have to cross the Mississippi on a ferry. You get about 30 seconds in Illinois. If that bridge is open, it goes into Missouri. But you're not there for long. I appreciate the call.

Yeah. It's interesting. So there you go. So your friend that told you that fact was lying to you. You can still do it. You just got to take it your car. on a ferry. Fairy from Kentucky,

cross the river, get off in Missouri. There's a ferry from... No, that's what we're saying. That's the only way you could do it. But, I mean, is there a ferry? I have no idea.

Yeah. Sounds like your friend was wrong. And once again, you will believe anything. That's right. It's on my phone. Oh, text Ryan some scoop and it's getting red on KSR.

Oh, it's getting right. Oh, it's getting right. I get stuff all the time. I know they're trying to bait me. Let me get, let me say this. I got a text message last night at 715 that said Butler and Robinson will play tomorrow from the text machine a number i'd not gotten before but for some reason i was

like this feels like something so i texted two people i thought would know didn't get a reply which made me think there's probably right and then it came out like an hour and a half later so whoever you are that sent that nice scoop uh it was about that number is one to remember an hour and a half before the the thing came out uh if you're exercising me or need to heal your body and save money. How about court physical therapy? Great way to keep your Kentuckyans in good shape and not in pain. If you're a chronic resolution breaker or someone who's serious about making a lifestyle

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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio. 859-28027. There is a ferry. The Dorina Hickman Ferry goes from Kentucky to Missouri. In Hickman, Kentucky. Yeah. So there you go. Eat it,

caller. Also, Matt. Eat it caller. Okay. Yes. You ready to pay me your million dollars? No. Dolly is not listed as a performer on that song. I don't care if she's listed or not, that was her voice. It was Reba. It was not Reba. It was not Reba. It had to be another singer that sounds like Dolly.

That was either Dolly or it was. It was not. First of all, there was harmony. There were two voices. It couldn't have both been Reba. Yeah, it can be when you're recording. Yeah, I don't care what's listed. I'm telling you that that was the whole part. I'm telling you. All right. What's the name of the story? the song? No you in Oklahoma.

No you in Oklahoma. We'll look it up. 8.59, you can look it up. I'm going to listen to it, and I'm going to tell you that it is Dolly Barton. Come on, Matt knows more than the internet, Shannon. That's right. Vince Gill is from Oklahoma.

That's another one. Vince Gill, Toby Keith, Garth Brooks, Blake Shelton, and Reba McIntyre. That's a pretty good group. That's a good group. That's a good group. That's a good group. And Carrie Underwood, yeah. That's a pretty good group.

All right. So he wrote me again with more, see if these stats make you feel better or worse. Matt, what is described as an emergency might not be what you, or excuse, what is described as a close call might not be what you consider a close call. We use it as a certain thing. The situation that you saw in video is what we call an emergency situation, something that could lead to a deadly interaction. There are on average three to five of those a month, and there are 4.5 million flights. in a month. Yes.

Okay, so let's say that there's three a month, $4.5 million, that would be 1.1 in every 1.5 million flights. Does that make you feel better? It makes me feel a ton better, actually. So their county near misses is one that maybe they're miles away from each year, but still in the FFA guidelines, that's a near miss.

So one in $1.5 million. And then, even from that, we hadn't had a crash since like 2003 or whatever. Do you remember that crash, by the way? In 2003? Actually, maybe, do you remember when right after 9-11 a plane crashed in New York City?

I feel like that's a forgotten thing in history. It crashed in like a neighborhood. I don't even remember that. Do you all not remember that? It was a commercial plane crashed in like the Bronx or something. Where? It ran into birds.

It ran into birds. That's exactly what it was. But it wasn't long after 9-11, so people thought it was like, but it wasn't. It ran into birds. When did solely land the plane on the Hudson? That was a few years after that. After that? Yeah, that was a few years after that.

It's weird. All that happened right outside of New York. But anyway, so now do you feel better? I do. Actually, that does make me feel a little better. And I believe what he says. You got on your phone. I like how quickly he changes his tune on things on the show.

Like one point, he'll flip to the other side. When you get on the internet, do you believe, like, what does it take for Ryan Lemon to believe something? If it was a website that I trust. Okay, so what are the websites you trust? Yeah, what's the Ryan Lemon Internet browsing experience? Yeah, what's, so you. Some of it. We don't need all of it.

Connecticut Sports Radio. Wikipedia. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah. Wikipedia. Yeah, I trust the Wikipedia. But you understand anyone can change Wikipedia. Yeah, but I believe 98% of it on Wikipedia.

All right. I mean, that's, I'll give you 98%, but I'd still would be hesitant about Wikipedia. Okay, what else? I don't do a lot of web surfing. So you just go to KSR and Wikipedia for all your information? Bluegrassrealtors.com, Bank of Lexington.org? Well, then how do you find out the news? I listen to the morning radio show and listen to the pre-show.

Tom Leach Report. Glad we were your source for news. Do you know where the news on the morning radio show comes from? Well, it's on my I-Heart app. It's what comes from the I-Heart newsroom. But I mean, do you know who's reading you the news in the morning? I don't. I don't know that person.

But you believe him. Totally believe him. Okay. Trusted news source. I-Heart media. The NFL Combine starts today. Kentucky has four guys in it. Dionne Walker, Maxwell Harrison,

Eli Cox and Dumas Johnson. It's interesting. Maxwell Harrison is playing himself onto the edge of a first-round pick. He's kind of like probably early second. Dion Walker has fall. I mean, now, he could have a great combine, but he has fallen not only out of the first round. In Mel Kuyper's draft,

he's not even amongst the top 75 players. And I'll remind you, Mel Kiper had Dion Walker sixth in the country coming into this year, and now doesn't even have him amongst the top. 75 players. Eli Cox has moved into the top 10 of centers in America. Do Ms. Johnson consider more to be like fourth or fifth round? What do you think of our UK guys? And to me, the story is Maxwell's Rise and really Deon's fall. Yeah, Maxwell's Rise, you know, we wanted more of him last year. I'm happy for him and it looks like he's going to, you know, have a great

spot when we get to the draft. But it's kind of like, man, I wish we just had him, had that top 30 of him all last year. In Dion's fall, that's going to be one of the biggest talking points when they really get into this. I mean, you don't usually see a guy projected top 10 fall to a completely different day like he has. Yeah, I mean, Deon's fall is, Matt, Mel Kiper was the guy who for moment one sort of said this Dion Walker is special. He released his first mock draft last year, had Deon Walker going sixth in the draft. And he was not even listed yesterday. amongst his top 60 prospects, and then I did a little more research,

and I think he had him like 75th or something. I think a lot of the blame goes to Dion. I just don't think he dedicated himself this past season, didn't work as hard as he should have. I think he thought it was just going to be guaranteed. He was going to be a top draft pick. I think he slacked off a little bit. Do you think he believed his own hype?

I believe he did. Yeah, I think he thought, I'm a superstar. I'm going to go high in the draft. I don't need to do this. And, I mean, we saw the work ethic issues during the season. I mean, they showed themselves on the field. There would be plays he would just take off, like right in the middle, like while he was playing. You don't think GMs see that?

When he watched game film, they see a guy take a playoff? I think the staff had to coddle him a little bit. And you can go back in time, and Stoops was talking about, I had to take Dion out of practice because he was dominating everyone. Was because he's dominating or Deion just wasn't bringing it that day? It's kind of what you wonder, because now he's getting these interviews in this combine, and they're just looking at you for what you are, and he is just dropping and everything you see.

He still is an amazing physical specimen. And so if he has a great combine, he might play his way back up to a higher thing. But it is kind of crazy how far he's falling. And congrats to Kentucky's Eli Cox for like he's playing himself into a draft spot position. I remember when he's committed, it's kind of like, is this guy going to see the field? He might not even been a two-star. He went to our Citrus Bowl show at Tenderland in Orlando with his dad just as a high school kid. And now this on draft board is awesome for him.

And they took him away to some center. They brought him back to center. Now he's going to play in the NFL. Yeah. So congrats to those guys. We will take a break. Take your calls. Kentucky and Oklahoma tonight.

It's KSR. T.J. Smith, personal injury attorney. Call T.J. He'll make them pay. Now, more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones. All right. I like this song.

Who sings this? This is David, Frizzle, and Shelley West. David Frizzle and Shelley West. I don't even know those names. I only know those names from Will. The Newley's Roadhouse. Wow. Frazel, I think is how it said.

Oh, okay. Wow. You're the reason God made Oklahoma. Okay, a little update. The plane that crashed in Queens was not birds. It was pilot air. Sully was birds. Solly hit the birds and went in the water.

The plane that crashed, it was in Queens, not the Bronx. 260 people died, including seven on the ground. And people just don't remember that. And it was like, it was not long after 9-11. Is that why we don't really remember it? We were so impactful. Probably, but I remember when it happened, people being scared like the attacks are still coming.

Uh-huh. You know? Because it was, again, in New York. Just a couple months after 9-11? Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, I fly into New York a lot. The New York,

New York's probably the only place I've ever flown that when you're flying in there, if you look out your window, you'll see other planes. Like, like, there's, because, you know, there's JFK, LaGuardia, there's Newark, and when you land, you circle the city if you're going into J. and you, I don't think I've ever flown and not seen other planes. Like, you don't see that everywhere else.

Oh, you don't. But in New York, I mean, there's so much air traffic, you will see planes around. That's got to be a little freaky. And also, if you ever, if you, I mean, everyone that's ever flown out of Atlanta or Chicago or Jay, it's always fascinating to me, Drew, how quickly they take off. Like, one goes, next one goes. Next one go. I mean, they are, like, where were we?

We were somewhere. We stayed a hotel right next to the airport, and you just sit there every 20 seconds, another one would go, you know? Yeah, especially up there in that city. It's just one after another all day long. I don't know how many there are, but it's got to be a lot. Do you know about the controversy, Ryan, in Louisville about potholes? No, I don't know this.

Some Instagram and social media accounts have been focusing on Louisville potholes. Okay. They say there are too many potholes in Louisville, and they are encouraging people to send in pictures of their potholes. So if you go online now to Instagram or Twitter or even TikTok, everyone is posting their Louisville potholes. Really? And I don't know if Louisville has worse potholes than everywhere else,

but if you go online, there's a lot of potholes. So last time I was in Louisville, I started driving around. And I was like, man, they're right. There's a lot of potholes. and I hate potholes because they'll screw up your car. Yeah. But do you think Lexington is a big pothole city? People are claiming Louisville's a big pothole city.

Do you think Lexington is? I mean, this time of year, they're showing up everywhere because of the winter. So how does a pothole occur? I think, like, the asphalt during the cold winter, it constricts. Again, they get the right word. And that starts cracks, which lead to potholes. So you think the ground gets cold? Yeah.

And then what? Compresses? And then it cracks. And then I think the cracks. So it expands. Well, it's like it's pulling apart. They're constricting. Well, constricting would mean like come together, like make smaller.

Okay, what's the word I'm looking for? I don't know. I'm asking you. Contracting? Where, you know, when it gets cold, it contracts. So what are you saying it's happening? When it gets cold, what happens? I think the asphalt contracts, causes cracks, which leads to the holes.

That's what I'm going with. Okay. I don't know if that's true or not. I don't either. I'm going with it. But it does happen after cold a lot. And so people are literally driving around Louisville, Drew, looking for potholes and go and then placing the street and posting them everywhere.

And I think the city has said, now the city I think is getting involved in and say, go ahead and do it, and we'll try to fill them all. Yeah, I've seen some other smaller towns do little gimmicks. It's like they'll plant flowers in a pothole, try to draw attention to it, make it a little like an actual flower pot. Really? Yeah. Didn't Dominoes have some potholes?

That's what I was going to ask. I think Domino's there was a time when you bought a pizza, they'd fill a pothole or something, right? I believe so. I feel like that's one thing a mayor can do, like, affects people's lives. Fill their potholes. There'll be a lot of asphalt trucks out when the weather starts warming up, filling these holes up everywhere.

Yeah, with the process, the science you're talking about. Yeah. So it can expand during the summer. Contract. And then what makes it crack? The contraction. Okay. You know.

I don't know if that's right or not, but I like your explanation. Who's next? Alan. Alan, go ahead, Alan. Hey, Matt. First off, congrats on the new contract extension. I know that Big Blue Nation all had a big side relief. No one our show is going to be on for another five years.

Thank you. And thanks to all the people, by the way, who rode in. Like last night, the text machine was just full of people writing messages about the show and when they first listened. And a lot of really, really sweet messages. I wrote some people back. I couldn't write them all. But those of you that talked about how much the show meant to you and various things, just from the bottom of my heart, I really appreciate it. That's nice.

Go ahead. Yes, and you often reference the lawsuit that you and Drew had against the referee from the North Carolina Elite Eight game. And I wasn't a daily listener at that time. I don't know if you can speak of it or not, but can you say what you all did that he sued you for and what the verdict or outcome of that was? Yeah. I mean, my lawyer may be wishing,

but we already won, so it's okay. So in 2017, Kentucky played North Carolina in the elite eight. I thought there were a couple calls by an official that were very detrimental. We heard the official and Cal O' Perry going at each other. I was sitting behind the bench a little bit during that game. So when it was over on the postgame show, we were doing it from what, Ten Roof Memphis, maybe? Is that rhyme?

That's exactly right. We were doing it for Ten Roof Memphis. I was very frustrated, so I was like, these calls stink, blah, blah, blah. This is the referee that I think made a couple big calls that stink, and that was that. Then I was so depressed about the loss, I turned my phone off, and, like, we drove back home, and I just, like, tuned out the world. Next morning, I wake up and Deadspin has a story about how all these UK fans have found this referee's business and are saying bad things, and they showed all the things they did.

I woke up, still frustrated. I was kind of mad that Drew had not posted that. I was like, that is a Drew Franklin Post. How did Deadspin beat us to this? So I called Drew, and Drew was kind of still in the mood. where he was bummed out to, and I was like, hey, Drew, do a post on this. It's already been on Deadspin.

I think you then posted after Deadspin about it. That morning we get on the radio, we talk about the game, and we read some of the comments that people were posting. And we said, now you shouldn't do this. Said that several times. I think the court said we said it like nine times.

You shouldn't do this, but some of the, these are kind of funny and it was like you know well I mean the audio you can't hear now but it was just us was us reading the comments other people had done the ref claimed that after we

did that then more people made comments which may be true I don't know but he then sued us saying it was our fault that any of the comments had had been made and that we had defamed him

ignoring that over half the comments occurred before we even said anything. We were recapping the comments. So then he files a suit in court. He files it in Nebraska. We have no connection to Nebraska. So I have to hire a lawyer who then hires a lawyer in Nebraska. None of this, by the way, was cheap.

They moved the case to Kentucky, but that costs money. The district court here rules for us. It goes to the Sixth Circuit, and three judges, rule and an opinion was written that basically said the act of reading the comments that other people make is not defaming them and even more importantly for the first time in American history wrote that officials referees are public figures which means in order to defame them you have to you have to talk about them with malice and be false it's first time officials had ever been called a public figure it's actually still cited most recent sports

law textbook, I taught at Georgetown. They cite our case. Do they really? Yes, in the textbook. So we won. It got dismissed, but it cost quite a bit of money to defend. So that is the referee story from North Carolina. And he sued me, he sued KSR, me, and Drew, including one of the things he sued us

about, we didn't even say, Lee Cruz said, not even me, but he sued me and Drew personally. One thing was funny, I wasn't even on the show that day. I did the website post. I had a pretty good defense. I wasn't there. You had a pretty good defense. They could pull up the entire radio show and listen to it. You know exactly what was said.

Yeah, there was one more thing, too. There was a YouTube video that some kid had put out with all of the calls. And at the end of it, it was like seven minutes long. And we had linked to his YouTube video. And at the end of his video was like contact. info for the ref, which that kid shouldn't have put on there. But the court also said linking to a video is not the same as if you put the video up. So, I mean, these were, even though we laugh about it, they were actually some really important legal principles that came from that case, that you have

a First Amendment right to criticize officials, and that reading social media comments that are negative does not then make you responsible for the comments. Those were two things that I don't think had ever been decided in the law that were decided by our case. I'm still waiting on those follow-up stories about how the case was settled. Lots of people wanted to write that we were getting sued and were that were bad people, but we didn't get the follow-ups when we went to case. Yeah, and I would argue the only person that committed defamation was Sports Illustrated. Sports Illustrated did a cover story about bad fan behavior that was basically based around me and Drew. And everything they put in there, they wrote the referee's allegations as facts.

They didn't say he alleges this. They said it was true. And I called the SI reporter. And I was like, how can you say this? We have this stuff on audio. Like, there's a record. I'll send it to you. You can listen to it.

And he just refused to, he refused to hear it. And that was one time where I was like, you're Sports Illustrated. You took allegations, published them not as allegations, you published them as facts, and used us as me and Drew as an example of what's bad about fans. It was ridiculous. It was such a big deal. We have my famous photo from Fortinner, but also remember it was on the scrolling Times Square, the ABC News, Times Square headlines thing. It had our names in Times Square as part of that lawsuit. You can read the case.

The case is online. It's actually very well written. The guy, you could tell the judge really wanted to be fun with it. And it's called Higgins versus, it's either Higgins versus Jones or Higgins versus Kentucky Sports Radio. I can't remember which one it is. But you can read the case. It's online now. That was a try time.

I remember the YouTube video. Yeah, well, I didn't do the YouTube video. That was the thing. I mean, I appreciate the call. I had nothing to do with the YouTube video. But that got brought part of the suit as if I had made it, which I didn't make. When's the last time you made a YouTube video? Never.

I don't know how. I don't know how to make a YouTube video. Another good defense in the case. Tell me about Stockton Mortgage. Stockton Mortgage, you know, the spring buying season's coming up, so you might as well get pre-approved now. You go to contact Stockton Mortgage. You get paired up with a loan officer that work with you and hold your hand throughout the entire process. You've got to trust your loan officer and you can trust Stockton Mortgage.

So give them a call or go to their website, Stockton.com, NMLS, 8259, Equal Housing Lender. I sometimes forget that, you know, it's 2025 that we have listeners who weren't listening then and things that are like so a part of the show. who we are. That was 2017. I mean, that was eight years ago. There are probably a lot of people that that was the first time you ever, you know, heard that story. I actually enjoyed, I don't remember who started, maybe Mario, and Bonnet Bridge yesterday. Tell us about the first time you started listening. I loved reading that, but it did open my mind to, like, there were some people that started, like, just this past summer, and we take free. I just assume they know a lot of our

stories and inside jokes we make from here, there, but there's still new people out there. There's been a couple times in the last five years that we picked up a completely new audience. COVID was a big one, because a lot of people just had never heard to start listening during COVID. And then the Cal leaving Pope search, we picked up a whole, I mean, we talked about it. This fall was the best ratings we've ever had. And the only, and second place was last spring.

So, you know, I do have to try to remember. We have a different audience sometimes. Who's up now? We'll take a break. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind.

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What's it called? Oklahoma Sunshine. Waylon Jennings. Oklahoma Sunshine. There you go. So we learned a lot about Oklahoma today, don't you think? Corey Price, of course, found the last time we played Oklahoma. It was in the Brandon Knight season in the Maui Invitational.

I was at that game. I guess I forgot it. I was at that game. Yeah. I was there. I know we played like Michigan State, Yukon, and I guess them. Oklahoma?

I guess those are the ones we play. Hey, bourbon lovers, Commonwealth Causes back with your February bourbon raffle. It is tomorrow, February 27th, $20,000 worth of bourbon. They have a Weller millennium. They also have a 2,024 double eagle, very rare, a complete Weller vertical and more. Sounds good. Big bourbon, big prizes, several lucky wins.

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and that's why we have so many potholes. Well, what was the story you told us a couple years ago? Pot holes on I-71 were so bad that they were causing wrecks or causing blowout tires and stuff. They caused me to have a blowout tire. I used to say I-71 from Louisville to Cincinnati was the worst road in America. And to their credit, I think Jim Gray was listening that day. No, I think he was. And it's much better now.

Is it? But it used to be awful. Didn't they start on it shortly after the show? It is much better now than it used to be. Who's next? Let's go to Shane from Grayson. Shane, go ahead, Shane. How's the going day, fellas?

Good. Hey, it's my birthday. As always? I always wish the cats. Yeah, as always, every year, once a year. Oh, okay, yeah. I agree you. Yeah.

Yeah, and I always wish the cats for a big win, you know, on my birthday, if they play, always, you know, that's what I want. Well, for you, Shane and Grayson, we're going to win tonight for you on your birthday. That's awesome. Hey, since it's my birthday, hey, have you guys ever got on your odds birthday, and I'll hang out and listen. Oh, wow. What's the best gift or surprise you ever got on my – well, you one time for my birthday did something where people called in. My mom called in. That was really nice.

That was your 40th birthday. My 40th birthday was great. You all did that. We opened this restaurant on my 40th birthday weekend. I had like, people called it my non-real-life wedding reception where we invited. So, yeah, that's probably my best one. What about you? I'm sorry, I don't remember.

I remember. I think I got a baseball glove on my birthday one time when I was a kid. I only remember that because there was a picture of me standing with a birthday cake in front of me and a brand new baseball glove on my hand. So some of us have special moments. You have a baseball glove. What about you? I'd say my best gift was my first car was a birthday present.

98 Camry. I mean, I could still drive that. If I had wrecked it, I'd still be driving it. But that was a birthday present from my parents. Yeah, Camry's. They last a long time. I'm telling you, if I hadn't been hit at an intersection here in Lexington, I'd probably still be driving it.

Shannon, I have a quick question. My neighbor has to smoke weed. every moment of everything. My front yard, my front yard, like, is literally the weedyest smell that's ever existed. Yeah, so what's your question? Do you just have to deal with it? Like, I can't just go, hey, man, it's 7 a.m. Like, maybe.

Because it, like, seeps in, you know, it's like getting to the point where it's coming close to seeping into the, like, house. And you've got a very sensitive nose. And I'm like a dog. I can smell it. Yeah. And so I just have to deal with it? I mean, you can go knock on the door and ask, you know, for them to blow the smoke the other way.

But I don't think it's going to work like that. Maybe just get some for brees and suck it up, I guess. It's the only thing you can do at this point. Here's the second thing. So, you know, I have a lot of shoes, and I've done this thing where, like, I'm one in, one out now. Yeah. So I decided, I got some new ones, so I decided to get rid of one. I had some boots.

You know, I bought new boots. I took some, my old Timberlins, and I did what I do some time. which is leave it on the street for people. I saw a man walk up, homeless man, he stopped. I thought, good. This man's going to get these shoes, I feel good. You know what he did? He picked one of them up and threw it.

It's the worst thing you can do. I was like, you just threw it. That was it. Now nobody gets to me. Now nobody gets it. 6.30, pregame show. This has been Kentucky Sports Radio. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy,

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