KSR - 2025-03-31- KSR - Hour 2

Episode Date: March 31, 2025

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One person writes, Matt, what about Kenny Brooks' daughter is on the team? He didn't dismiss her. She's not on scholarship. I think that's an important difference. I mean, would she have to be on scholarship next year, I guess? I have no. I mean, I don't. She wasn't on it this year.

What if he gives her that extra scholarship? Well, I mean, that would make people mad. I understand that. But I would be surprised that. But remember, this is the last year you could have Walcons. I think after this year, all players are on scholarship. They're the days of the walk-on, I think, are about to end. So that's why they're adding up to 15 players,

but they're getting rid of the walk on. So, you know, end of the day, I just want people to know. This happens all the time, all the time. I can understand, though, like I have the same emotions of it's a kid from Kentucky. But you have to remember that, like, life, nothing in life is not a tradeoff. So just to give you another example, like I'm a pro-union guy. I'm a big union guy. So I'm always on the union side.

But if the union asks for too much, you can end up ruining the, business, right? There's a push and a pull with all this stuff. Similarly, if you say she's from Kentucky, so she should have to stay, there may be coaches who will recruit less Kentucky kids now. So there's a push and a pool here that Drew, you just always have to keep him. Yeah, and adding to the fans' frustrations, it's that she has one year left. I mean, if she were a freshman and he's like, I need this spot for the next three years, it's one thing, but it's like, couldn't just give her one more season. I think that adds to it a lot also. People are mad at my cousin, Ryan, Morgan Wallen,

because he walked off stage at Saturday Night Live. Did you see that? No, I didn't see it. Yeah, so he did Saturday Night Live. Second time he's done it. Yeah. I didn't hear the performances, but I heard they were pretty good. But you know, at the end, they all shake hands and, like, hug each other, and, like, all that.

He just, as soon as they said, bye, he just zipped off. Didn't shake anybody's hand, didn't hug, and just walked off. And then he posted a picture from his private jet, like 30 minutes later, that said, headed back to God's country, or thankful to go back to God's country. or something like that. So people are interpreting it that he didn't get along. No one has said anything officially. I just think he has one of these personalities now

where people will just criticize whatever he does. You know, he's in that world, unfortunately. It was interesting. I wish the camera would follow him because he didn't even like walk off towards the back. He just walked out through the crowd, just walked past the camera. He walked towards the camera. You don't see that a lot. He just got out the front door on the Broadway or whatever it is.

And I'll see you and see it. For anybody who doubted, you guys are related. We now have proof. He's trying to be. Beat the crowd. Beat the traffic. Get to the airports. We didn't get stuck in traffic.

You know what? I hadn't thought of that. Yeah. See, we are blood kin. Yes. You're doing the same today, right? When you're done, I want you to just walk out. Don't say bye to Ryan or Drew or me.

Oh, I'm just dropping the headset. Go and see y'all. Give me back to God's country. Give me back to God's country. So anyway, yeah, but that's the latest country. I think it's nothing. I bet you, like he just had to go. I bet you nobody was angry about it.

But everyone is getting angry. You know what I mean? I bet you the people are. Saturday Night Live didn't care. Kenan count of points and smiles. Like, there he goes. You didn't look like he might as frustrated. Other ones just kept shaking hands and didn't really acknowledge it.

I don't. It didn't feel like a big deal to me. Who's up first, Shannon? Tyler. Tyler. Go ahead, Tyler. So, yeah, the loss to Tennessee, like, really broke my heart. Yes.

I swear, with saying what Pope did with his first year, with all the obstacles he had in his way with the injuries and just being the SEC being so good. I mean, if he could put together a team like that with little to no talent and, you know, I didn't, I mean, I'm, next season seems very promising. I can only imagine what he'll do when he's got a full line-up. I wouldn't say there was no talent. I mean, you know, I appreciate it call.

They had a lot of talent. I didn't have a lot of athleticism, but I think they had a lot of talent. But yes, how could you not be promised? I mean, if O.A. comes back, like, now you have, like, returners. We had no returners. He's building through freshmen. I think Chandler is going to be really good next year. We've got some elite guys coming in. Now, whether or not they're, like, superstar elite or not, we'll find out. But I don't know, Drew, I don't know how at the end of this first year you could be anything but positive. There's one dude who pops up on my TikTok account. Who is that guy? Oh, the negative dude? It is the worst. There's no way that dude's a UK fan. No chance. There's no way.

He just comes up and he's like, Mark Pope stinks. We as Kentucky fans. And it's clear to be he's not a Kentucky fan. That's just a guy who's trying to get mentions. And I guess I'm playing into it, but I'm not giving his name. But you know what I'm talking about? Oh, I've seen him a lot. He's been saying Mark Pope won't work out here since like December.

He's like a younger African-American guy. But I don't like him. He's terrible. He's not one of us. I don't even think. Does he even live? here? But my point is besides him, how

could anyone not feel optimistic, Ryan? I think most 99% of the fans are ecstatic the season went the way it did this year, considering what we started with and to get to a sweet 16 birth where we haven't been in six years. I think it meant a lot to people just to get

bring that passion and joy back to Kentucky basketball and pulping these guys did it. One person writes, Matt, have you given up on the Reds yet? Close. Yeah. Close. I mean, I'm hanging in there. I'm wanting, they're one and two. Trying to be in a Braves fan. Yeah, y'all haven't won a game yet, have you?

Oh, and four. They think it's still spring training. Yeah, I went to the game yesterday, and, you know, I just have to hate some of our players. I don't like Ian Jebeau, because he blew that game, and he's French. And then the Candelario, his feet are made of lead. Like, he can't get a ball. He missed a tag that was important.

You know, Jacob, Hootie, Boosy. He ran into a double play, left Ellie on deck with the run. So it was frustrating. But I do like going to the games. It was a nice day. Well, the first five innings, both pitchers had perfect games going through first five innings. It was three up, three down, three down, going by quick. All of a sudden, the sixth inning, then everybody starts scoring. Yeah, it was unfortunate. But you know what? I'm not giving up yet, but I'm kind of giving up. And so I love last Thursday. It's open day. Here we go. Here of the Reds.

It is now Monday, and it's time done. Lasted four games. Yeah. I'm going to give my tickets away probably for Tuesday and Wednesday's game on this show. So if you're listening Tuesday and Wednesday, but if you write me and ask for them, you will. They got the Rangers? Play Texas. Yeah.

Kentucky baseball won a big Texas series. Yeah, Kentucky beat Texas A&M. So they needed to win a series. They lost their first two series against ranked opponents. They won this one, so got back on track a little bit. Did you see the little bit of a controversy down there over the curfew? They were fighting because Mingione went a little stall ball. out of Caliperi's trick to get past the 530 curfew where they can't play another inning.

So you can't start an inning after 530, which is odd to me. That's an odd rule. But like basically Mingione started, you know. He argued with the hump a little bit. Yeah, guys were going slow. Yeah, he basically just stallballed, Shannon, so they wouldn't have to play the ninth inning so they want. Hey, I'm totally fine with that. I think that's smart.

It's a stupid rule. If they don't like it, they need to change the rule. Don't you agree? Is it, you think it's a bad rule? It is a bad rule. It's a horrible rule, but it's gamemanship. He's trying to win an SEC game. Going to do whatever he can to win an SEC game.

I get the rule if it's like 10 p.m., but it's 4.30 local time at Texas A&M, and they're like, we can't possibly play another inning. Hey, we just wish the daylight savings time. Come on. Yeah, I don't understand the rule. It doesn't make sense to me. 5.30 is the arbitrary time you can't play another inning. That doesn't make sense.

Who's next? Mark. Mark. Mark, go ahead, Mark. What's going on about? What's up? Hey, no much.

Hey, real quick, I want to start first. I want to congratulate a great crossing on the Sweet 16 win, Malacomarino. But I also think it's time to split the Lexington area into two regions because they're tough as games against Bryan Station and Douglas. The other games weren't nearly as close. That's okay. I don't care. Lexington gets one region.

We don't need eight Lexington teams in the Sweet 16. The whole point of the Sweet 16 is to, you know, the SEC, is harder than the Patriot League. That's the way it goes. But the whole point, the beauty of the Sweet 16 is that people come from all over the state. If 12 of the 16 teams are from Lexington and Louisville, it's not as fun.

No, I'm only asking you should only probably be two of them. That's good. Make it the Lexington area. Okay. Because you can bring in with the United States. I put Louisville in with you in Lexington. So there's only one team from the city period. I understand that.

That's fine, too. Hey, real quick, what was your grade on the season this year? It's an A. I'm an A. You know, I switch from A minus to A after the Illinois game. You know, the fact that the Tennessee game was never really competitive had me considering wavering back. But I'm going to stay with an A. I think the post-game press conference and the way these guys kind of brought back the sort of pride from the fans and stuff,

I'm giving this in A. This is on and off the court. I think they did exactly what this fan base needs. That's what I want to talk about. I'm going to give him a B-B-plus. I'm going to tell you why I'm going to give him a B-plus. I think it's a great start moving forward. But I think we were pretty fortunate in our scheduling this year what we had.

I looked at the other 16. What do you mean fortunate? We played one of the hardest schedules in the country. We had a lot of home games against good teams, Matt. What are you talking about? We played more quad-one teams than eight. any one in basketball except Auburn. Yes, but that's, we had to play them.

We had to play those teams. We were three and seven, Matt. Dude, let me ask you a question. When Mark Pope was hired, did you think with zero people on the roster and four weeks to put a roster together, we'd be in the Sweet 16 next year with our only commitments being Travis Perry and Trent Noah? He said he may be in the Sweet 16 also with nobody on his team at Michigan.

It happens with the portal, man. did a great job. And you know what Dusty May's great. He deserves his. They both get a great job, man. He deserves an A. If you don't think, if you think this is a B, then that means you had to have expected like an elite aid or a final four from this group.

I actually thought we were probably more as a C. It actually, I thought this season would be a C, honestly. But with the portal, it makes it a lot. It can't be a C. Okay, I appreciate the call. It can't be a, you can't, if you thought it was going to be a C before he even started, then this is better. Like, I don't know, I honestly don't know what people thought.

I said for 15 years, the year after Cala Perry leaves, we're going to stink. And we didn't stink. We were good. And you're right, Dusty May did the same thing, although Dusty May had people stay. We didn't. But you know what? He deserves an A too. Pat Kelsey deserves an A.

I think Cal deserves an A for the postseason. I think his regular season stunk. But all these new coaches, the guy at BYU deserves an A. These new coaches did an amazing job. If he wants to give them a B, sure, I don't understand saying the schedule. They won more games against AP top 15 opponents than have ever been won in a single season at Kentucky. So that's a pretty difficult schedule, and they won those games by a record. What would our record have been if we played Louisville's schedule?

I mean, it had been much better. Now, we might have gotten a worse seed because of it. Because like them, we didn't get a lot of chances to play good teams. But I just don't know There were four SEC teams in the Elite 8 There were seven in the Sweet 16 There's two in the Final 4

You know, there's going to be one in the championship We beat two of the Final 4 teams in the regular season Yeah, I don't know I mean if you want to give an A minus Okay, I can even understand a B plus But like a B, what in the world did you expect? We had some really, really good wins this season I mean, big time wins.

I mean, there's a good chance that the team that wins a national championship, we would beat. We beat them. Right? Like, I don't know how you can be that upset. Court physical therapy, if I wasn't going to Europe, we'd be getting a visit. You probably that so. K-O-R-T.com, it's court physical therapy. There's no reason to be in pain like I have been, although it's better this weekend.

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But clearly they must like him. They invited him back. They invited, like, everybody's always like Saturday Night Live so liberal. I mean, they had Shane Gillis hosting a couple weeks ago. They had this dude singing. I mean, like, you know, everybody's got to just chill out. Most people like each other. Y'all that fight online all the time, you don't represent the world.

I think sometimes people forget. Like, I think a lot of the people that I noticed when he was on there, where a lot of liberals like, why are you inviting Morgan Wallin on? Well, because they want his fans to watch the show. It's pretty simple. Like, it's not like everybody just goes, whether you like Biden or not. If you don't, you can't come.

And vice versa. Like, everybody just said, maybe he just wanted to go get ice cream. Like, everybody's like, he walked out of there, comes with their liberal agenda. Maybe he just was meeting a woman. I don't know. I mean, like, nobody has any idea. Just make these big judgments.

I think Ryan nailed it. It's in both of your blood. You know, this is a big event. All these people are about to leave it once. Yeah, think about me. Think about me. Like, think about how weird my behavior is sometimes. So what if you were, like, you mean he didn't even stay in the arena during the game?

Liberal. You gave me. Is that because he's Indianapolis is a red state? No, it's because I got too nervous. At the Def Leopard concert, you gave me five songs and said, we're out. Is that because they were all? Conservatives? I think they're British.

I don't even know that that was, I don't know that was anything. I just, it was time to go home. Beat the traffic. That's right. We've been there a while. And we did beat the traffic. 8.59-28027. One person says, Matt, what if the Castie Rose situation were to happen to Travis Perry?

How would you and everybody feel? It might. It might. And you know what? I love Travis Perry. But like if the end of the day, this is a business. And if you don't want this to happen, then what the NCAA needs to do is have contracts. Jay Billis said that the other day and he's exactly right.

Sign these players to two-year contracts. And both sides have to deal with it. I'm for that. But that means the NCAA is going to have to see these dudes as employees, which means I have to give them workers' comp, which means all this stuff, which the NCAA doesn't want to do. But here's the thing. If the NCAA would just agree to treat these dudes as employees,

all of these things can happen. Treat them as employees. Let them collectively bargain. Then you can set limitations on pay. Then you can say they have to stay so many years. Just do it. That's what you need to do. But they're so hesitant to do that because they don't want to pay workers' comp.

And I get that. But you know what? Get over it. Right? You're making so much money. Like, get over. It seems to be like that's the best answer. You have all the arguments I've heard.

That's the best one. That's the best. Jay Bill has said it yesterday. He's exactly right. Sign two-year deals. If you want, maybe you sign a kid to a three-year deal, right? Maybe you only sign them to a one-year deal. But, like, let the market decide.

Right now, everybody's a free agent. Kevin Willard leaves Maryland. Like, how are you going to get mad at kids for transferring if Kevin Willard's going to leave? At the same time, if the player's going to leave, how are you going to get mad at Kenny Brooks when he asks a player to leave? Like, this is just, like, it's the business we're in, and if you want to fix it, fix the business. You said it, though.

This one stinks just because of who she is. She's from Easter Kentucky. She's a senior. She went through a lot of injuries. That's what I think people are so upset about, the entire story, not just the fact that he asked a player to leave. It's who he asked to leave. I get it.

I totally get it. And also, if I was her family, I'd be upset. If I was her, I'd be upset. I get it. But I also would say, we've only heard one side of the story. And this happens all the time. We're just taking it personal now because it's a consideration. Kentucky person.

Yeah, definitely. Yeah, and on the Perry comparison, I'm back to, I think so much of it is that she had one year left. Yeah, I think so too. Like, it'd be fair to be like, look, three years, you're not going to play here. You should seek something else out, but it's like, there's not just any way that she can keep that spot for one season. I mean, that's a fair question.

Who's up next? Jay. Jay. Go ahead, Jay. Yes, Matt. This question for you, Drew, Ann. Ryan. So the whole show.

Okay. Do you think Pope will put another, do you think Pope will put another team, another player on the team from Kentucky this year from the high school? Okay. This is why they don't do it, though. You know, I appreciate the call. Like, this is why this is a perfect illustration of why this is hard. First of all, we already have two kids from Kentucky. Yes.

We now have more kids from Kentucky. on this roster than we've had in years. We're going to have two freshmen coming in, and then we got two others. We got four kids from Kentucky. Don't forget my walk-on from Madisonville, five, if you count the walk-ons. And then, respectfully to the caller,

are we going to take another kid from Kentucky? You can't just make it to bring. We just have kids. We already have two from this class, and they're two of the best players that have ever come from this state. We should be happy about that. not go, well, will you take another one from Kentucky?

I think some people just want us to be the Kentucky All-Stars. Don't step outside the state to recruit. Yeah, you know, I understand. I get it. It used to bother me that Cal wouldn't recruit from Kentucky. Honestly, if you want to know, because I heard him say it, if you want to know why he didn't take just a kid from Kentucky, this is why.

He didn't want, his belief was, I want the focus to be on the people playing, not people asking me why that somebody else doesn't. Yeah, why didn't Richie going to play tonight type of thing. And we did that. Dante Allen was the big one. You know, I think he got so stubborn about Dante Allen because he was tired of people about asking him about it, Dante Allen, and he took it out on the kid, unfortunately. I think you're right about that.

Dante should play more. Dante should have played more. Dante should have played more. But, like, this is the problem with this conversation. Yeah, you know, he took Dominique and Derek, but they didn't play until they were juniors, and we heard about that. Why aren't they playing more? Well, look who was ahead of them, man.

Well, I mean, Derek was a top recruit. Yes, he was. But Dominique, he had to be talked in to take it. He had to go watch him at the state tournament and then decide to take him, and obviously it ended up working out for both those kids. But remember, they didn't, I mean, Derek didn't really play to his junior year, and Dominique would do spot duty here and there. Derek was a recruiting win against Petino in Indiana, if I'm not mistaken.

It was those three schools. You couldn't let a Kentucky kid go to one of those. Yeah. So do you expect Mr. Scoop to get a commitment in the next day or two? I think we'll have two. Oh, oh. Here you go. Listen, don't be getting people's hopes up.

You think we'll have two commitments in the next week? Yeah, by the end of the week. That's not the next day or two. Two commitments by the end of the week. Yes. Any more eyeball emojis or anything? you got dialed up for online? Maybe later.

Yeah, well, we'll see. Two commitments in the next week, says Ryan Lemon. All right, you are going to take the last 30 minutes. I'll be doing the show from up there on Tuesday and Wednesday. And I'm out. Then you're off to Amsterdam. I will be there Tuesday and Wednesday. Have a good trip, brother.

Well, I will do my best. If you all got this, Drew Week next week? Drew Week next week? Drew Ploosa, they're calling it. Drew Paloosa. I feel like that adds pressure to it, calling Drew Palluzza. Especially this, we're all gone. Even Mario, Shannon.

Everyone's gone, but you're true. Everyone. I just keep showing up to work. All right. Thank you all very much for listening. They're going to still be here for the last 30 minutes, and I will see you tomorrow. This is Kentucky Sports Radio. I will be safe.

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Tiffany or Debbie Gibson? You had to pick aside. Are you a Debbie Gibson person or you're a Tiffany person? I don't know who Debbie Gibson is, so I'm the Tiffany guy, I guess. Who's Debbie Gibson? Who's she? She was a big teenie, teenage bopper singer back in the same time. She had like all the goody-to-shoe love song looks and lyrics.

Tiffany was kind of the wild child. She went to all these malls. Have you heard this? Never heard the name Debbie Gibson. Oh, look her up. But you know Tiffany, though, Drew. You know Tiffany, right? You know who Tiffany was?

No. No. Was I born when these people were selling? This was in the 80s. So why'd you have to pick a side between Tiffany and Debbie Gibson? It's like Bernie versus Christina, right? Did they have beef? No, I don't think they had beef.

I think it was just, are you a Debbie Gibson fan or are you a Tiffany fan? You had to pick a side, one or the other? I went with the wild child, Tiffany. We believe it. Listen, I got a question for you, Drew. Is something blocking your path to home? ownership? No, but if it were, what should I do? Well, who do you think could help you? I don't know. Can you tell me? Our friends at Stockton Mortgage are here to help you, Drew.

That's going to be my guess. They can clear your home loan hurdles. Mackiah knows what's up. That's what it says here. Maciah knows what's up. She said, or he said, Stockton Mortgage, went through every obstacle necessary to get my loan approved. Y'all are great. Find that how Stockton can help you. Get started at Stockton.com. Stockton Mortgage, NMLS 8259, Equals. housing lender. All right. Final four is set. We talked briefly about it with Matt when he was here. Got two SEC schools on one side of the bracket. Florida, Auburn. You got Houston and Duke on the other side of the bracket. All four number one seeds made it to the championship. Who do you like and why? It's got to be Houston. It's the only one that doesn't really impact Kentucky or me. I don't know a Houston fan. Heck, I think I like Houston now that they have Matthew Mitchell. But you know,

Obviously we don't want Duke. I would want the tournament to be canceled before I would want Duke to win. And then Kentucky's already been slipping in the SEC lately. I don't have like a lot of animosity towards Florida Auburn, but I'd rather them not just add to their resume in the conference Kentucky is supposed to own. They've both been the better team the last couple of years, even though Kentucky won the one meeting with Florida this year. But I don't like the thought of Florida getting another title.

I guess between the two, you and I both like Bruce Pearl. Yes. A little part of me would be happy for Bruce, but I'd prefer the title to just stay in Texas. Play it in San Antonio, keep it far away from me because I won't have to hear about it or worry about what it means for Kentucky. I just think that it'd be completely separate.

I suppose the other three have a little bit of impact on how we feel. Shannon, what about you? Well, in my bracket, I guess I only have one team left, and it was the team that I picked to win the championship, and it's Auburn. So I wouldn't mind Bruce Peril getting a championship. I kind of like Bruce, and as long as it's not Duke, I'm fine with whatever happens,

but I think Auburn wins. Auburn had a scare with broom yesterday. That would have been awful. He ended up coming back. Something with his wrist. And it kind of looked like he landed funny on his ankle too. Yeah, very heroic entrance. They followed him in from the back.

Then he comes in and bust a three with his bum arm. But for a split second there, it looked like Auburn's title shots could have gone out the way with injury, which you don't want to see that with anyone. You want them to play it out and having all the one seed. You want them to be at their best just for the sport. But that was a scary moment for Auburn fans yesterday. I'm kind of with Shannon. I'm kind of pulling for Auburn a little bit because I like Bruce Pearl.

I've always liked Bruce Pearl from his days back in Evansville. But you mentioned Matthew Mitchell with Houston. He's posting pictures. It's kind of weird to see him in red. It is a little weird to see him with that red shirt on or red hat on. I got to admit. I was surprised. I thought he was happy in retirement, just being dad, being a family man, traveling.

He's got his winning tools business going on. So I was surprised he got back into coaching. But, you know, I'll be rooting for him. I'll be a Cougars fan from a distance. I was like Matthew Mitchell. Now, we did get an invitation all of us to go play in the universe. of Tennessee basketball benefit golf scramble it's a 14 hole scramble why would they invite us it's his final it's his joke they don't play in the final they don't play the final

four oh god that went completely ever so bad it went over my head if I told the joke so many times I saw it at first I did think we were invited to some kind of scramble I was excited 8592 287 who we got shannon rob rob go ahead Robb Hey, guys. Good to talk to you. On this coaching controversy, I'm a Lexing kid. I've been here my whole life and probably about Ryan's age. Let these coaches coach.

We hold them to a high standard and let them have their roster. And honestly, if we weren't at 15 scholarships this coming season, I would almost make an argument that Travis Perry needs to go. I know that ain't popular, but we've got two great. great Kentucky kids coming in. You want to talk about a feel-good story. We got Elvis Johnson's grandson and playing on this team next year. Yep.

You know, there's more Kentucky connections than just eastern Kentucky. What about Derek Anderson? I mean, just it goes down the list. Appreciate the phone call, yeah. You mentioned Elvis Johnson, and I appreciate you mention that. That's Jasper's Grandpa, legendary high school coach administrator out of Harrisburg High School. But if you are Travis Perry, you're looking, okay, they're going to go get a top point

guard in the portal. Conchallelor kind of passed me in the rotation at point guard. Jasper Johnson can play point guard. I guess he could look at the roster of the way it is like, hey, man, my minutes may be limited even more next year. Yeah, I haven't heard of anything about Perry wanting to leave. I think he's happy here, even though he probably won't have a huge role next year. But if he did look around and take a step down a level,

you could understand where a guy with this record and points in high school and has been a score his whole life would want an opportunity to get more shots. But best I can tell is he's enjoyed it here even knowing what's coming up. I mean, you know, he's limited a little defensively, but when they were so injured this year, he played some quality minutes for him. Well, there was a time where they had to have him. Lamont Butler's hurt. Yeah.

Kirk Crease is hurt. Thank goodness they had Travis Perry on that team last year. I mean, you go to Alabama and yeah, they lost, but that's such a big ask for a freshman from line. County, like, oh, here's Mark Sears, an All-American who is impossible to guard, whether he's hot from three or flopping his way to the free throw line. And it didn't work out in the end, but for the circumstances he was thrown into, I thought he held his own pretty well.

859-2-2-287. Who's next, Shannon? Mike. Mike, go ahead, Mike. Hey, guys. I'm calling about the Cassidy Road deal. Actually, Cassidy is my cousin. So I have a pretty good knowledge of what's going on.

Brooks did. In fact, tell Cassidy she was not on the team anymore. It wasn't her decision. It was his. And the thing that really upsets a lot of us is if you guys watch the games early on, early part of the season, Cassidy was the first guard off the bench. So it wasn't like she was just sitting down on the end of the bench waving the towel. Then Tyler kind of took some of her minutes and she moved to the second guard off the bench.

She would come in and play point and move Georgia to the off-go. So it's not like she wasn't contributing at all. And if you saw all these stuff that Brooks posted, you know, he actually had her on one of the postgame interviews, called her the Princess of Kentucky, talked about how when she cried her tears were blue. I know it's a business, but part of business is good PR. Cassidy is a model. I mean, she's just a role model. She's a Christian girl.

She, at the games, if you guys ever been to the games or anything, she stays until, every fan that wants a picture with her get for an autograph. So, I mean, going into her senior year doing this, I mean, I just don't think it's acceptable at all.

Yeah. Her dad, her dad, Dodo Roe, I talked to him. Actually, I texted with him when I was on hoe with you guys, and he said he would be more than happy to come on the show and talk with you guys more about it.

Well, I appreciate the phone call. And I think he's the reason why this is tough because the kind of person she is and what she means to the people of Eastern Kentucky. I think that's what makes this decision, even though like he said himself, it's a business decision, makes it hard to swallow. I remember her taking a lot of charges this year. I know that just adds to people liking her even more. As we mentioned earlier on the bench, she seems to be the biggest cheerleader, the biggest coach on the bench. I think it's a bad, like the relative said there, I think it's a bad PR move by Brooks that he might. not have expected to be the way the reaction is.

So, I mean, if he has the greatest portal class ever and fills all those spots with younger, more talented players, then you can go, you know what, it was a numbers game, and it just stinks. But just right now, without knowing what he has lined up, it seems like a big mistake by him. The A-V-Glass text machine, I guess, is going to be my cell phone for the last two segments here. And somebody says, ask Shannon why he severely injured a referee during an OVC match this weekend. OVW. Yeah, I'll say, first of all, it's not the overall. Ohio Valley Conference. It's Ohio Valley Wrestling.

Dude, this was a complete freak accident. I was telling you guys about this during the break, but during the main event, Saturday at our big pay-per-view show, which was sold out and awesome, I threw one of the titles into the ring trying to break up the three count. I turn around and look up, and the referee is just gushing blood out of the side of his head. Apparently, the national title, when it was flying through the air, tilt it in the air and caught the referee right on the side of the head and got about a, I'd say about a two-inch gap in his head, like a gash in his head. He was bleeding all over the place, bleeding all over the backstage, and sometimes those things happen to me. It's not ballet. So every now and then,

things happen like that. You threw it at his head, did you, Shannon? I threw it in the ring. I was trying to, yeah, I was trying to hit all my day. I wasn't necessarily trying to murder the guy, but it looked like a murder scene backstage, and he had to get stitched up, so, oops, it happens. What made a bigger mess? You splitting the referee's head over or Ryan Lemon at Lucas Oil Stadium? That's another great story. I know you mentioned this on the pre-show,

but I wanted to participate in the discussion since I saw the aftermath than when I went to the back after a half-dust. I had on this nice UK polo shirt I was so proud of it, wearing blue, wearing my logo, despite what Piper was saying in Illinois. Piper no. We walk over to the arena. Shannon and I get our chili cheese dog and chili cheese nachos.

First of all, we walked a mile. Double chili cheese. We walked a full lap around the arena trying to find the media. By the time we had walked all the way around that place, we were hungry, and you went and you got, what, a chili dog or was it chili cheese nachos? Chili cheese dog and chili cheese nacho. And sure, in true Gary Lemon fashion, my dad spilled it all down my shirt. I mean, it was all over my shirt. It was so bad.

I had to take the shirt off and throw it away. I couldn't wear it around. It was stained. I didn't know that part. I went to the back after halftime to watch on TV. That was fun. And I noticed in the press conference, I guess where you were sitting, one of the chairs had chili dog stains.

Oh, that was it. Is that where you were sitting? Or Shannon's pretzel. We littered the whole place. Shannon came and sat by me and noticed the stain, and he was like, that was Ryan. At that point, I hadn't known anything about this. I'm like, what do you mean that's Ryan? I had to walk around and had a radio t-shirt the rest of the

night because I ruined my UK polo. I was convinced. I was convinced, Drew, we were going to get kicked out because there was nachos all. This is, by the way, the same room where they do like the post-game press conferences. The first row. Yeah. I look down and there's salt everywhere. And there's nacho cheese and chips and chili all in the carpet.

Like, somebody needs to bring us like a vacuum and a carpet machine cleaner. Otherwise, we're going to get kicked out of here. It was a mess. What made you go chili cheese dog and chili? chili cheese nachos, that alone without spilling it is a move in itself. Well, actually, I got it until Shannon I could share the nachos. We weren't sharing a hot dog. No.

I ate the hot dog and got chili cheese nachos that we could share, and then I spilled them all over the place. What is it with you in Indy? I've told this before, but I walked into Tenderoof one time before a Pacer's going. Not even knowing you're there, and you are just absolutely covered in ranch. A whole bowl of ranch. A bowl. I mean, you're entirely covered in a room. I don't even know you had, did you ask for more ranch to pour on yourself?

And then it was either Indy or St. Louis, we go to the media room and you take a bite of food and you look at me and you lost a tooth at a NCAA tournament game. You're right. Yeah, maybe it's just the whole the NCAA tournament thing that does that to me. I had a poop tooth for like a week for broke my tooth off. We hadn't been in the building for 20 minutes and get the whatever the media food was and you look at me. It was the fried ravioli that got me there in St. Louis. How does fried ravioli break a tooth? Well, it was like a brick, a little small charcoal brick.

I think it was. Oh, my God. You're such a treasure. We've got to get you a bib next time. Well, that's my dad. The apple didn't fall far from that tree. All right, we'll take our final break. Come back, our final segment.

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Yeah, you're funny. You're really funny, Shannon. The whole, for people who don't know, the whole commercial break, Drew and Shannon just laughed at me in my chili cheese covered UK polo and ended up in the trash can. This was like even before, like, the second TV timeout. No, it was all. No, it was 10 minutes after we walked through the door, I'll look over. Yeah. And you're covered in half of what you were supposed to be eating. There was new info during the break, too.

He admitted that had it gotten on the undershirt shirt, he was just going to wear it inside out around Lucas Oil. I thought about that. When I take this off, my undershirt is stained also because the grease seeping through. I was going to have to turn it inside out and wear it. I thought I was going to have to do that for my UK polo. Wear it inside out. The visualization of you just walking around Toplos.

In the media area, that would have been the best. You would have gotten kicked out quick, though. 8592-802-287 let's get a couple of phone calls before we get out of here here we got shan let's go to joey joey hey guys how you doing good are you joey can you hear me yes sir go ahead i was calling about pope i was wanting to give him an a on the season but one of my questions is is he going to be able to get a big time talent we've lost out on wilson dent eagle staff it's looking like a mint is probably going to go to Louisville or Duke,

or do we need talent like that in his system? Do you think that's why maybe we don't necessarily? We lose him? Yeah. Appreciate the phone call. That's the one big knock, I think, right now, Drew. Can Pope go get the elite of the lead, McDonald's All-American, one-and-done type guys?

Yeah, it'd been nice to get Caleb Wilson. You lose him to UNC. You got Nate. You're in the mix, but probably unlikely you get him. Pope will eventually have to make a big splash with someone. But even if he doesn't, like you look at what he did this year, like did anyone have Otega O'Way doing what he did this year? He got Oklahoma's six-man that most of us, if we're being honest,

had never heard of him. He wasn't one of the big talked-about transfer portal guys last season. Wasn't a lot of teams fighting over him. And he's second team all-S-E-C and it's probably going to be the face of your team next year. So, yes, Pope needs to go out and get a big splash to prove he can do it. But at the same time, the way Pope operated, at least in that first years, he went out and found exactly what he needed. Amari William Drexel, he got him pretty quickly,

so there wasn't a lot of attention on Amari in the portal, but he knew he needed a passing big, the defense. That worked out pretty hot. Triple double, fourth in history, had a great season from start to finish. Wasn't perfect, but I mean, to go out, Amari wasn't a big splash. Nothing we really celebrated, and I think everyone loved Amari season. He should have been all SEC.

So you've got to put a little faith in Pope after year one that he knows exactly what he wants to fit a system and can find the right guys, even if it may not be ranked as high as Dent, who's number one on a lot of lists, you lose him to UCLA. Pope knows what he wants more than a lot of coaches who just say, I want the most talented and I'll figure it out. He's looking for very specific roles to bring together. Nobody mentions a Caden Lewis, but then I've got other people say he may be the best of all

the incoming players as a Caden Lewis. Yeah, I mean, he and Jasper or Malachi, okay, they're not top ten, but those are still pretty big blue-chip recruits that he came and got. Two of them from Kentucky. That helps. It was a good start for his first recruiting cycle. moving forward he will need to eventually get some that aren't from Kentucky that are that are big additions but he also have to trust Pope and that he knows what he's looking

for we got time for one more Shannon squeeze on one more before we get out of here let's go to John John go ahead real quick yeah does anybody have any info on Reed Bailey from Davidson appreciate John Matt's little synopsis he gave earlier that they're very much in the mix for him there's a couple guys I think they're they're like really on strong and feel good about, but now they'll have to determine which ones do they want over the other guy, but I think that Davidson kid's in the mix for sure. Yeah, Kentucky's been in contact.

Right now, I mean, they cast such a wide net at this stage. It'll move quickly, but, you know, there's Zoom set up today, zooms tomorrow, no one, outside of a couple that you feel like we're good about, like you, saying Magoons in a good position, really a lot of this can change on the fly, and probably will

in the next couple days. We thought we were in a good spot with Dent. Even Trilly, and people that aren't even have Kentucky ties are saying, oh my goodness Kentucky threw quite a bag at him. Didn't expect UCLA to match. UCLA matches and he wants to stay home. So it's hard to know where they are exactly with Reed Bailey, but they've been in talks with him.

You know, great Osabower last year. They thought they really had him. And then, you know, at the last second, somebody comes in and outbid them. I thought it was a done deal. I think it was a done deal for several days. And he just decided or his agent decided, let's shop around and see if we can get more money. And it got to a price that Kentucky said,

never mind. We're not going that high. Yeah. All right, so Drew and Shannon and I will be in studio tomorrow. Matt will be on location somewhere as he gets ready to head out of the country and go to Amsterdam for a couple days. And then Drew Paloza starts next week because I'm off, Shannon's off, Matt's off, Mario's off. What happened to the rule of three of us have to be on the show at the same time? Is that out the window from his –

Drew will be fine. Rules are made to be broken, I think. Well, if anyone has suggestions, I'll need some help for some voice. I'll need some calls. I'm going to spend this week kind of getting a game plan together, but it's going to be lonely. Are you going to be here? I'm going to say, if you get really desperate or you can call Ryan and I,

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