KSR - 2025-04-23- KSR - Hour 1

Episode Date: April 23, 2025

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Welcome, everyone. It is Kentucky Sports Radio Wednesday, April the 23rd. I'm Matt Jones here at the KS Bar and Grill on Wingsday, Wednesday, $1,000. wings all day on a beautiful day. So you want to come out and have lunch with us. We got people here from, we got Gainesville, Florida, right there. We got Versailles, Cades in Trigg County, although she won't look this way. It's like she's embarrassed. And where are you from? Madisonville. Madisonville. So already here this morning. Ryan, Lemmon, Drew, Franklin, you can give a shout on the Clark's Pumping Shop phone line, 859-280-2287. A-Vision Auto Glass Text Machine is 7-7-7-4-5. 25254 in this edition sponsored by the T.J. Smith-Lavis. If you call T.J. He'll make him pay. He was in Gainesville.

It was a great celebration when they won the title, but you still can't be that happy because it's Florida fans. Hopefully we get to have one of those here in the next few years. It's also going to be Wednesday. I'll be gone for three and a half weeks. So open up the phones, whatever you want to ask. I'm not saying for certain I'll answer it. But you know, you can be exciting. You can ask about sports, but you can also ask about anything you want. be afraid. Just don't call me and say like, hey, Matt, who's going to start at point guard? Because, like, we can do that anytime. Make it kind of a more interesting question than that, Drew. Yeah, it's always fun when we get a little off script and maybe even tell some stories from the past. Yes, and I also have something in the second hour where we're going to play a little draft game. Oh, okay. So just be ready for that. But let's start with the big news of the day. Travis Perry enters the portal. Talk about an 11th hour thing. It happened at like,

what, 930 last night, two and a half hours before the portal closed. He didn't make an announcement. It just got, I had a source tell me, but they must have had everybody on speed dial because everybody put it out. I thought, hey, I have some scoop, and then all of a sudden everybody had it at the same time. It must have been a group text, but nevertheless, he is in the portal. Not a shock to me.

I kind of wondered, you know, all these other people would put out their graphics that they were back, and he hadn't. and I was kind of like, is it going to happen? You know, there was a person who wrote the text machine who has written me about every two days for the last month, saying Travis wasn't going to come back. And 15 minutes before I got the text, they were like, it's official. And I wanted to be like, you've been writing me this for two months.

I guess was it official then? But he decides to leave. Let's just start, Ryan, before we, what are your initial thoughts? I mean, this is the all-time leading score in the history of Kentucky High School basketball. What do you make of the decision? You know, I had heard there were some teams putting the full court press on him, but the fact that he had not made an announcement, I thought, well, he's probably going to come back. And the fact that it waited until the 11th hour, it just kind of tells me on an outsider looking in,

it might have been a really struggled with him and the family trying to decide what to do. Should we look elsewhere, or do we want to kind of stay and be Kentucky, be at Kentucky? I think we all that kid a lot of gratitude. I mean, I'd hate to think where we would have been without him after all of our injuries at point guard. Yeah, we might have had Brandon Garrison bringing the ball before. What do you think, Drew? I think he's got a tough decision. I've heard from the moment portal season started all the way through Monday that he didn't want to leave.

He knew his spot. It's not a competition thing, a playing time thing. He's very aware of the situation in Kentucky. But there are some other places that have made significant offers and opportunities that are in front of him. and he has to decide, do I want to be at Kentucky? No one I'm the 13th guy, and there's a lot in front of me and, you know, live that dream, or do I want to take maybe even double the money and have a significant increase in playing time? That's interesting.

I heard the exact opposite. And I'm not saying you're wrong. This may just be in the portal era you hear different things. I heard the exact opposite. I think U.K. actually had kind of thought he was coming back and, like, had sort of the, the NIL agreement with him, but that ultimately it did come down to kind of a playing time thing. Especially when they got Aberdeen, there was a sense of, well, Aberdeen will probably end up being the backup point guard when Lowe is out, and you're now at that point kind of third string for your second year.

So I'm not saying you're wrong. You know, my source could be wrong, but I actually heard the exact opposite of that. So, you know. I'm pretty confident he's got some strong offers out there. Oh, I'm sure he does, too. There are much more than Kentucky's. I don't think that, I don't, I don't think the money was why he left. I think it, I mean, there was, well, I won't go into all the details, but I, I'm sure he'll get other offers.

But that would have been the case back two months ago, or a month and a half ago or whenever, whenever it ended. So either way, I guess it doesn't really matter. He's gone. You know, it was interesting looking at the fan reaction online. I think the general reaction is, well, I'm sorry it didn't work out because we want this Kentucky kid to play, but that people understand. I mean, he was going to be the 13th man on the roster next year. I mean, Trent Noah kind of objectively fit in better in some ways last year.

I mean, Travis, he's a great shooter, but he didn't shoot great last year. Right, and he really struggles on defense. And it's, you know, I hate to see him go because I love having Kentucky kids play, especially one with the historic career he had in high school. But I also think for him, it's probably the right decision. Yeah, you know, he got thrust into a role he probably wasn't quite ready for. You know, he just got to college. He's playing a major division one ball, a lot of physical, a lot of great point guards in this league.

And then Colin Chandler. Do you think he could have been ready for it? Is there a world you could have seen Travis Perry starting point guard for Kentucky? Only if it's like on year three or four. Okay, but what about on year three or four? He's still not the kind of physical type point guard that we see. Even, you know, Lamont, Butler, Sears, fears. These guys are just dynamite point guards.

I don't know if he was physically able to do that. I'm not sure, Drew, there's a worse league for him than the SEC. I mean, like, this is the worst league you could play in if you're a guy. That last year, I think I've said over and over. I think we had the least athletic team in the SEC, and it showcased itself, and I think that's part of the reason Mark Pope went and got so many more athletes.

I don't think he would ever be the guy at point guard, maybe get to where he's a solid backup play in a lot of minutes, but just defensively, he's just not built with the athleticism that would take to play significant minutes in the SEC. But, you know, I wouldn't, this isn't scoop or anything. This is just me breeding tea leaves. I wouldn't rule out him sticking around coming back. I see it as he's maybe got to the last minute

and just wanted to buy himself some time. Well, we'll see, but I don't think that's happening. I mean, I think UK is going to fill that spot. I think they might fill it with a developmental type player, like a guy who's the 13th guy and understands that and is coming in to maybe be a contributor in the second year or something like that. I could see them almost even doing like a reach a little bit and taking a guy that's a little bit, you know,

not necessarily ranked in the top because that they just think can make it work. Maybe a guy like Trent Noah who wasn't ranked really high last year, and they still brought in. But, you know, I'd be very surprised. If you were the portal two hours before, I kind of think you're probably going. And, you know, even though they brought in Aberdeen, you know, Colin Chandler, when he got his chance, kind of leapfrogged over, Travis. Travis didn't play hardly at all in their last couple games because Colin got a lot of all of his minutes. I'm sure he wants to go and play somewhere. He's a competitor.

As a western Kentuckier, Kentuckier. Western Kentuckian, are you bum? I'm a little bummed, and I was surprised. Like I said, I've heard that both sides wanted to make it work. My assumption is he got a pretty good offer, so if that's the case, I'm happy for him. I know a lot of people mention like Bellarmint. I just don't think places like that could afford him. I don't know NIL at Murray.

Yeah, I don't know. Even Western, I don't know what they have. I don't even know if they could afford him. I wouldn't be shocked if he's still in the SEC. I know when he got recruited out of high school, Ole Miss loved him, and Florida loved him. It'd be crazy if he went to one of those, but I wouldn't rule either one of those out. Joe Tipton from on 3 mentioned Cincinnati as an option. I think he's still going to be playing at a decently high level of basketball.

Cincinnati would make more sense to me. I just don't see how an Ole Miss or Florida could have watched those games and said this is, and again, this is not, I'm not being critical of him. I think there is a place for him to be a really good college basketball player. I just not sure it's in the SEC. I think even in the Big East, there's less athleticism than there's. is here or the big 12. This league is just so

athletic that I just don't know how it works. And he's not tall either. That's the other thing is he short in addition to the other thing. Cincinnati would be interesting. It would be going to be Kerr creases backup up there. That would be interesting. Those two paired together. That would be kind of interesting

if both Kerr and he with the Cincinnati. With the Cincinnati. Offensively, not just the shooting. I think he can be really good running the show. It's just the defense. I don't know we'll ever get to what it needs to be. to be a guy that's playing a ton of minutes at a place like Kentucky. So what about the people that are frustrated? I'm confident Mark Pope didn't say, I don't want you to be here.

Mark Pope wanted him to be here. But there are people who say you've got to find a way to keep the Kentucky kid on the team. I think that was something, Ryan, maybe you could have said pre-N-I-L. But I don't know if you can say that now when you're actually talking about money. You know what I mean? Like when you're talking about money, like at some point, you can't just say, well, you have to keep them.

Because the thing is, when you set one cost of a player, you're not just setting the one, you're setting the whole roster. That's right. Because if you pay your 13th player, a ton of, like the 12th players will want more, the 11th players are going to want more. You know what I mean?

Like it's, it has a cascading effect. And you know, this is kind of a unique year where they've got Jasper, Malachi, they've got three other Kentucky kids on the roster. That's true. You know, I got to admit it kind of stung a little bit, and I just seem to think I feel bad for him and his family. If they waited until the last minute to try to do this,

they probably really, really wanted to stay here and just think it's the best opportunity that maybe he goes somewhere else and play. Favorite Travis Perry moment at Kentucky? How about, was it the – didn't Trent Noah throw, like, over the shoulder, no look between the legs pass or something to him in the corner, and he nailed it. That was a big bucket. That's probably, I don't know, one of these biggest buckets to yet.

Who was that against? Was that against Tennessee? Not how to place the team. It wasn't a rough. It was on the road somewhere, wasn't it? That was a big play. It came in a loss, but I thought he did about as good as he could at Alabama for most of the game being put in a horrible situation.

There was even, I remember, you know, he just considered a guy that shoots. He cut back door, and Amari found him on a give and go, and he finished a tough layup. So even though that was in a loss, to be putting that spot, played 30-something minutes against an all-American. And you remember we started that game up like 11. Yeah. You know, we started at Alabama, and they pulled away late.

They pulled away. But like we started on a roll, and that was with him in that game. There was a moment where they called Mark Sears barely got tapped on a three, and they called a foul, and Travis gets hammered on the other end and doesn't get a foul. So he was just in a tough spot. But I thought he played well all things considered in that situation. I mean, like I said earlier, we owe him a lot of gratitude, man. I hate to think where we would have been without him after we lost, you know,

LeBond, Butler, Kirk, Cree, to Jackson. Jackson Robinson, are three point guards, and he had got forced into play as a true freshman. That's a tough situation he got put in. Which brings me to the second point, which is, well, I've got to be careful how to say this. Actually, Shannon, let's take an early break, because I don't want to rush through this. All right, let's take an early break. I want to talk about, there were some reports yesterday about Kentucky's NIL roster payment. And I, let's just say I'm in respectful disagreement with what was said.

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Now, you know, Shannon, that doesn't make me thrilled. Right. Well, they got to, you know, have the games. they can hand out the pickleball paddles to everybody coming in. That's nice, but that's even more of the reason not to do it. But for those of you in Louisville, you can switch on, listen online on WLAP. But, you know, who do the bats play today that it's so important that we get preempted for? I'd have to look up and see who they play.

I mean, they only have 150 games. I mean, this is your Cincinnati Reds Farm Club. You should be thrilled. But it's not the Reds. This is, and I like the bats. He's a future Reds. Okay, you hush. He used to it.

It happened several times while you were gone. Yeah, I did. Oh, it's happened several times. Drew Palooza got interrupted twice. It happened to Ryan last week, I'm not mistaken. So at least three. Great. The Iowa Cubs.

Of course it's the Iowa Cubs. Who wouldn't want to listen to that? All right, so anyway, there was a report yesterday that from David Sisk. He works for Cats Illustrated. I actually met him in Indianapolis. First time I'd met him, I don't really know him. but he came out and said that according to people he had talked to, Kentucky was spending $20 million on their NIL for basketball this year.

And that seemed really high to me. And he even put how much he thought each player was making. So let me be clear. This is nothing against him. I'm sure if he said that, he has had someone tell me that. I can say fairly definitively. I rarely say definitively. Definitively, that is not true.

It is a substantially less number. Now, it's a high number. It may be the highest number in college basketball. It probably is. But it is nowhere near that number. So, I mean, the idea that we were going to have a $20 million roster, which would be $10 million more than any other team, is just not the case.

So I just want to be clear about that, because I don't want people going in the season going, oh, this guy's making this and this guy's making this. This isn't David's fault, but graphics were putting it out there, you know, Jasper Johnson's making this, and all these people. And I just, here's what happens with this stuff. The schools are not going to tell people what they're making. I can just tell you, and I've tried to find the information out.

They're not telling them. The schools are not going to tell you I spent X amount of money. Let's play a little game, Ryan. Why would the schools not want to tell you? Well, because it gets out there, then the other players are trying to renegotiate their deal. Exactly. Who does have an incentive to tell you they're making a lot of money? The player.

The agent, specifically. The agent wants to say, I got this kid this much money. Why? So kids will go, oh, I need to go with him. He gets them this much money. So the agents, who are the only people talking about it, they are exploding the figure. because they want to raise the market. If you find out that, you know, Aberdeen is worth $2.5 million,

then this kid over here will go, well, wait a minute, then I'm not worth $2.5 million, and the market for everybody rises. So I've said this for three years. I don't believe the money that anyone says about any of this. I think the money is less than everyone says. I still think it's a lot more than it was two years ago, but I think it's less than people realize. So, you know, I just want, I don't want our team next year to have this burden of their $20 million roster.

I just don't think that's true, and I don't think it's close, to be honest. You also have when a school loses on a player, they will tell people that the other school overpaid X amount to not make it look like you just lost the recruitment straight up head to head. So if you miss out on a player, you also have an incentive to be like, well, they paid X amount to make it sound like you only lost because the other school was overpaying. So it's players and the losers in their recruitment, so I think that inflate it. That's exactly right. That's another person. So like if you're Kentucky and you lose out or if you're, you know, Florida and you lose out on Aberdeen, you don't want to say it's because the kid wanted to play for Kentucky more than Florida.

You go, well, he must have paid $2 million or else they wouldn't have left. So I just don't believe any of the money. It's not a criticism of anyone who reports it. You know, a lot of these national reporters have an incentive. They want to get information, and so the agent says, okay, I'll tell you about my next scoop, but say he made this much money, right? Yeah. That's what happens.

You know, remember we always joke about the Shams guy? Yes. And how Shams always says, this was negotiated by blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Why is he doing that? Because he wants scoop. Get that name out there. He wants scoop the next time, right? You've been saying from the beginning that the numbers out there are probably overinflated.

They're all inflated. And it leads me to believe that this $20 million is overinflated, but yet I still think Kentucky has offered a lot of money. I still think we will have one of the three highest, quote-unquote, payroll in the country. But it's not what folks say. What is happening downtown? There are school children and buses and coyotes and like, coyotes. What is happening downtown?

What is going on? It takes me 15 minutes to get here from my house. What is it? Science and tech. No, so that's why all those nerds are running around. Okay. It takes me 15 minutes. I leave it 9.30 every day, never have an issue.

I texted you all. I just kept sitting through the same light with zero cars moving. It was an absolute parking lot. I got here two seconds before the show. I had to pull a couple of Matt Joneses to even be here on time. I broke a few laws. So it's a science and technology what? It's like a big convention that rub for the students where they come in and they all like do egg drops?

Yeah, do their science and do their technology. Did you all do the egg drop when you were in school? No, I think we did an egg into a Pepsi glass Pepsi bottle. What does that mean? Like you put a, you peel on a boiled egg and you put it on top of a Pepsi bottle, but you stick a cigarette or burning paper. A cigarette. Some part of burning paper.

There was a different time back then. You had a school project that involves cigarettes? This is the 80s. You know, we're going away back. And they would suck the boiled egg through the top of a Pepsi bottle. What are you talking about? You lit a cigarette. Well, that's what you do it at home.

At home. They encourage you to do that at home. Yeah. Yep. Okay. You know, they used to have Pepsi used to come in in those glass bottles or colds with a glass bottle. They still have those in Europe. That's what they use.

Do they? Yes, but go ahead. So you boil an egg, peel the skin off of it, the shell, and you get ready to put on top of the bottle, but first you put a piece of burning paper down in the bottle, and you put that hard-boiled egg on top of it, and it sucks the egg right down to the bottle. What's it supposed to teach? you. Egg sucking? I don't know. You're an egg sucking dog. Egg sucking. Yeah. That's a good scientific principle. That's probably what they're doing down at Rupp Arena. They should use their science to figure out the traffic pattern. Yeah, well, a cigarette. All right. Who's up next? Shane from

Grayson. Shane, go ahead, Shane. How's the gone forward today? Good. He's talking about the dark thing you went to information here from Kentucky in Carter County the number one women's ranked dart throw. So I'm not disputing that, Shane, but how do you know that? Like where are the United States dart rankings? There's a dark magazine. And they rank them. Okay.

Yes. And how I know this is because my grandmother's next door neighbor. She's, that's her name is Sue Qualls. I talked to her. She said it was fine to tell her name. The 90s and she was ranked number one, United States. Okay, but I, Shane, I'm not, first of all, I'm sure Sue was a great dark player. Is this Sue that told you that, or did you see it yourself? It's in the magazine.

Do you have the magazine? I mean, I've got a copy of my, yes, I've got a copy of the magazine, and not in my hand. It's in my house here. Shane. I'll speak to her, and I'll have her write you a note and mail it. Shannon, are you there? Yeah, I'm here. Yeah, I'm here. I got you.

It looks like we lost everybody. No, I got you. No, you're good. I can hear you. Okay. Well, why didn't you respond? I did. Oh, well, we couldn't hear you for a minute. And Shane's still there too. He was still talking. So go ahead, Shane. You do have the magazine then. Yeah, yeah, I do have a magazine in my house.

Okay. And in 95, she represented the United States on the World Cup. Look at that. How about that? Who knew that Grayson County had that level of darts? Yeah, I never dreamed it, right? I appreciate the call. Kentucky has a heavy dart. His true is a celebrity over there in Carter County.

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Here's Matt Jones. Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio. 859-2-80-2287. The name of the thing downtown is the Student Technology Leadership Project State Championship. Oh, state championship. They certainly made that easy to say. The Student Technology Leadership Project State Championship. Six words. ST-L-P-S-C. And it means a lot of buses downtown and a lot of, well, I mean, I don't want to say nerds, but nerds. One person writes, Matt, it takes a lot of gall for you to call kids nerds. You were dancing with Janet Reno. There's nothing nerdier than that.

No, that was hot. Well, we've seen the photo. I don't know if hot's the right word I would use. No, I mean, it was Janet Reno. She was the Attorney General. Think about it. I mean, you could have, you could go and Alberta. I dance with all attorney.

Attorney General. Alberto Gonzalez. And you in Alberta are dancing? Me and Alberto. Electric slotting? Pam Bondi. Who was Biden's attorney general? Oh, Merrick Garland.

I don't know if I've danced, but I've had a beer with Merrick. Wow. You know, I do things with the attorney generals. And you have kind of self-proclaimed king of the nerds. You know, you don't hide the fact you're a nerd. There's nothing wrong with being a nerd. Nothing wrong. be like, don't let, you know, you can't be made to feel bad, Ryan, unless you participate in it.

Oh, there's a little piece. Is that philosophy in your leadership? You can't be made to feel lesser unless you participate in it. You can't feel lesser unless you actively allow that to happen. Which brings me, I mean, it's asking a thing Wednesday. Can I ask you a question? Sure, if you want. You've talked about what you did in Amsterdam.

You didn't only talk about the fellowship. And, you know, one time you had to do a play. What did you do in your fellowship this time? So we did a lot of, the topic of this was like, it was a heavy set of stuff. It was actually about like when leadership can turn nasty. You know, we were there where the Holocaust is. So we sort of spent a lot of time studying, like, how did when Hitler was in charge, like he didn't just start and just start killing the Jews.

It was a process. Like he got people to accept little things along the way. that at the end, almost everybody would have said, that's awful. But they slowly desensitize themselves by agreeing to stuff along the way. And then all of a sudden, people were like, wait a minute, where's this going? So we were studying how that happens, not just in the Holocaust, but throughout history. And like, we read a book, okay? This was an entry, we read a little book.

Here was the story. It was called The Visit. And this woman, she had been like, this man in town, gotten her pregnant and then disappeared. And when he disappeared, she became like a billionaire. Okay. And so this is an old book. So let's just say now she became like worth $20 billion.

Okay. She comes back to the town. The man is living in the town. And she says, dear town, I'm worth $20 billion. Town, I will give you $10 billion. $5 billion for your city to make it the nicest city in the world because it had been like run down because coal had gone away. This is in Europe, but it was a coal town.

And I'll take the other $5 billion and split it amongst the citizens. You each will get the $5 billion. And they're all like, that's awesome. And she goes, but there's only one thing you have to do. We have to kill that guy. Oh, my. We have to kill that guy. And he had done something wrong.

He had gotten her pregnant and left and not supported the kid. Yeah. So the book is about the town debates. this $10 billion would change our town, it would change our lives, but we got to kill this guy. And so that was the, that's the play. And so then you sort of talk about he wasn't innocent, and is it okay to make a thousand people's lives better and have one person?

So that's what we did. So that's, it's nerdy, but I think it's interesting. So is it like an open discussion? You all just take turns discussing it? Yes, you take way out and everybody gives their opinion. Did you want to off the guy? Were you in for the blood money? No, I mean, I'm the person.

person who's like, what is the old Benjamin Franklin quote? It's better for a hundred guilty people to run free than for one person who is innocent to be locked up. Similarly, like he messed up, but that doesn't mean he deserves to die. Right? And money is not everything. You, I know Ryan, would say kill the guy. I mean, I know, like for Ryan, it would be easy. You give me my share of the $5 billion and I'm good. pulled the trigger before the debate started. No, there wouldn't even been a debate. Of course, she got it out of her mouth.

So that's... So no plays or anything like that this time? Well, we had to put on... Then we had to put on each segment of the thing. We had to put on a little play, and I got the final segment, so I hosted a game show, like American Idol, where they voted on whether or not to kill him. Uh-huh.

Very good. You were Ryan Seacrest. Uh, I guess, yeah. I mean, I didn't call... I called myself Matt Jones, but yes. Doing plays. So all of us are doing plays. Ryan, where you're going to do a play?

You're going to play this weekend, aren't you? Yeah, Friday. Have you learned your lines yet? I went over my first line yesterday. What's the play? Romeo and Juliet. Are you Juliet? I'm not, but my first scene, I'm hitting on Juliet.

My first line is, baby, you must be a broom because you just swept me off my feet. Wow. So I was practicing my, you know, I was workshopping different voices yesterday. What's your character? I'm Paris. I die in the final scene. Spoiler alert. I know.

I can't even go. Yeah, I'm not prepared. Let's just say that. Well, good luck. Is it with the children's theater? Yes, it's for charity. So I will get prepared. I'm not going to let the children down.

Okay. But I'm not quite there yet. So where is this if people want to go? Lexington and Opera House. Or excuse me, Lexington Children's Theater across from the Opera House. All right, good deal. All right. Who's up next?

Jerry. Okay. Jerry. Go ahead. Matt? Yes. Hey, man. Yeah.

I was just wondering, John Taltie was on Fon Ball about two or three weeks ago, and they had an interesting conversation about stoops, and I guess Palty's close to John Summerall. And he was saying that Summerall's the top of the list of law schools this year, and he was shocked that he didn't take a major job last year, and that he's probably going to take one this year, and that he felt like that there would be a lot of pressure on Mitch Barnhart to make a move because the job that Summerall covets is Kentucky, and really wants to come here, and that there would be a lot, and if they felt it was three, four wins.

We've had this conversation for two or three years, right, about Summerall. I mean, this is, you know, the, I know how Mitch Barnhart works. He is going to make the decision about Mark Stobs, pro or con, about Mark Stubes. It will not be to get John Sumerall. And when you talk, and when Fibom and other people talk about boosters, you know, at Auburn and Alabama and some of those schools, there's a group of rich people who really pressured the school. we have one booster that has the kind of impact to do that, and everybody knows who it is, and he loves Mark Stoops.

So I don't, I mean, Fimbom can say whatever he wants. Fimbab doesn't know about what happens here. So I don't think, I'm not saying Stoops is like safe, but it will have nothing to do with John Sumerall, whatever they decide to do one day. Well, it's just, yeah, though the point that Tawks was making, you know, actually, I don't know he was there, but he was saying that there would be an enormous amount of pressure to do something. But from who?

But from who? At the end, for fans and boosters. There are no boosters that have any ability to do anything like that except one, and he loves Mark Stoops. As far as fans, yeah, I mean, fans, if we have another bad year, fans are going to make it awful. But let me, and I appreciate the call, let's go to when John Calipari left. Most of the fan base when John Calipari left wanted him gone, right? True. I would say the boosters that matter didn't even particularly like Cal.

Did Mitch let him go? No, they held hands on TV. No, they went on television and he backed him. And then Cal left. Mitch didn't even like Cal. He likes stoops. So, I mean, you know, think about how we didn't let Cal go, and there were many more reasons to let Cal go. The administration didn't like him.

The basketball office at the end didn't like him. The fans didn't like him. They were getting no N.I.O. money, and yet, they were going to keep him. Yes. So the idea that there's going to be all this pressure to fire Stoops, I think is incorrect. if Stoop's leaves at the end of this year, it will be because the situation is such he just can't do it anymore, which is kind of what happened with Cal. But Mitch doesn't fire people based on booster pressure. Would you agree with that?

Totally agree with that. Yep. You know, I always felt like Cal stayed maybe a year or two too long. I hope we don't get to that point with Coach Stoops. You know, we've struggled with the last couple years, and I hope we don't get to that point when we look back five years. I said, man, he also stayed one or two years too long. Well, if he's here five years, then he better have had some winning seasons. I don't think he could stay that long.

This is good, you know, before the Reed Shepherd year, Drew, you and I said this will be the year that decides Cal's future. And when they lost to Oakland, as far as it was for the fans, it was over. Yep. This is the year for Stoops. It is. This is the year. He can't have another terrible year. Now, I don't know what good is.

good could even be five and seven and you're competitive in every game, but he cannot have the year he had last year, or the fans will be done. I mean, they just will, you know. Now, what Mitch does is different, but the fans will be done. Yeah, for cows last year, I said in July, I don't know that this is the end, but I'm going to be watching each game like this is the last ride. And part of that was him having DJ, which just kind of would have been a great time if they had a good year to walk away. But I'm kind of going into next football season, not knowing it's the last year, but I'm going to be taking it in like it could be the last one. But the difference between us and a lot of SEC schools, we don't have this cabal of boosters that decide things.

Our administration doesn't allow that. We do have one booster that has a very important voice, but he's not the kind of dude that fires people. No, he's not. He's a very loyal guy. So I just don't think that will be the issue. Hey, bourbon lovers, just a reminder that the drawing for the next ultimate bourbon collection is no, it's not November 7th.

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Patino retires, he could come back and have a role at Kentucky in some sort of capacity? Good question. What do you think? Not a coach, but like something in the administration or? Yes. I I think it's, I would never have said this maybe even a year and a half ago, but yes, I think someday down the road, I can see that happening. I can see it. I think we're heading that way as long as Pope's still running the show. I mean, the fact that Rick was at Big Blue Madness immediately when Pope got here tells me he's already trying to get through that door.

He might do it at St. Johns. I mean, they're going to be preseason top 10. I mean, he's the king of New York right now. Like, he's got all this money coming in. It might be that he's just like Mr. St. John's for now. I can tell you one place he's not going to be invited back to. Louisville. Louisville.

Do you say they're playing each other? St. John's and Louisville? He scheduled a game while you were away. Louisville and St. John's. Where? Might be home at home? He's going to go to Louisville? Look that up, yeah.

Wow. They scheduled a game. I think he's going to move to a horse farm outside Lexington because you got Richard just right up the road in Cincinnati. He's got his job. He's going to play at Louisville. I wonder what the reaction will be for him there. Let me look that up.

I'm pretty sure it was at Louisville. That's interesting. It's home and home. Home and home. First game in Madison Square Garden, second will be played in Louisville. So I guess his hope is that by that second year, people are not as mad at him. No, that's not going to happen. That'll be their biggest crowd of the day, and there'll be their biggest crowd of the year.

They'll be there just to boo him. Yeah, that's interesting. I had no idea. Who's up next? Amanda. Amanda, go ahead, Amanda. Hello. Hi.

Hi. This is a perfect time because you were hating on pickleball for the bathroom, picking you off the radio. Yes, I hate pickleball. Yeah, I just want to ask you as somebody that loves walking and hates traffic and hates pickleball and hate pickleball and virtual reality, what did you think about the $65 million plan for this three-story pickleball tennis and virtual reality center in the middle of the Joe Creason Park not far from your house at Sellerman, like in the Wildlife Reserve. Yeah. See, I don't really know a lot about it. Somebody wrote me about it last.

night and said I should look into it. So I don't want to speak on it without knowing about it. But I guess they're putting a pickleball facility in the middle of a park. One of the great things about Louisville is it's parks. They have an amazing array of parks. So my initial reaction is to hate it. But to be fair, I don't know anything about it. So I can't, I don't think it would be right for me to like take a stand. So I need to see it. Well, I don't know if it's poop or settle, but apparently the coach there at Bellarmine for tennis is really wanting this to be built to their campus and his dad is on the board. Yeah, well, I mean, I don't want to get, if you don't know that, I don't want to get into, like,

yeah, I'm pretty sure. I appreciate to call, but I, but I know that's a big controversial thing. They're putting this pickleball. In general, if you start the sentence with, they're putting this pickleball, I'm against it. And then if you put it in the middle of a park, that kind of makes me, you know. Would you rather live by a dog park or a pickleball facility? If I have to hear that stupid sound at my house, then I personally will go impeach my friend Craig. I don't know.

The mayor may not even have anything to do with it. I have no idea. Lexington built that indoor pickleball facility out there by Cayman Farm right off New Circle Road. But I mean new people go? I don't know. Country boys opening one by me. I'm going to live there. I meant country boys.

Yeah, it's golf simulators, pickleball, and country boy tap room, and I already asked for a bedroom in there somewhere. I like D.H., but why is he getting into this pickleball stuff? Just jump in, just do it, Matt. Just do it. Come on, D.H. Who's up next?

Let's go to Caleb. Caleb, go ahead, Caleb. Hey, guys, good morning. Hey, I just wanted to say they tell you to never meet your heroes, but Drew, I met you out front of the Tyler Childers concert, over the weekend. And I was the guy that threw up the heart symbol with my hands, and you were gracious enough to stick your hand out and shake it.

But I haven't heard the end of from my wife, even until today. I remember your heart. I'm so. Don't be embarrassed. I would have got it back, but I think I had a beer in the other hand. I didn't want to half heart you. Don't, don't feel embarrassed. Look, it's a good.

She's embarrassed. And I said, I listen to these guys every day for two and a half years, and you feel like family to me. So I was just wondering if it's asking. thing, Wednesday. What's the proper thing to do if we meet you guys? Whatever you want. Whatever you want. I appreciate the call. I prefer a bow, but it's up to you. That's a very good question.

The key when we meet, the key when you meet people, and this isn't just about us. This is about anybody you meet that you like. The key is be kind, be nice. I will, I love to have a quick initial conversation, but like, be quick, especially if there's a lot of people. Right, if there's a lot of people. Now, if it's just you're here in a restaurant, I love to talk to people. But like if you're at that concert, here's a good question. Amongst the five of us, let's throw Mario in Billion. Who is the nicest to meet?

Who's the worst to meet? I'll give you the definitive ranking. Mario's the nicest to meet. Mario will literally stand with you for an hour. He'll take your phone number and call you the next day to follow up. No, Mario has multiple phone numbers from people he's just met here that he just talks to. I think Ryan is second. Ryan will be over the top nice. Especially if they're young. He does the handshake move where he doesn't let go and he just keeps shaking their arm.

Drew is third. Drew will, you know, Drew's busy, but he'll still be like, hey, I'm Drew, good to see you, br-br-br-br-br-br-a. I'm fourth because I love to meet everybody, but then, like, I want to get away after a little bit. You down to Shannon. Shannon is fifth because Shannon doesn't like people. That's not true. Ask anybody who's ever met me outside of OVW, they would tell you I was very nice to them.

They would, but you also get the heck away within seconds. And then Billy, I just don't think anybody wants to meet him. Oh, I'm kidding. Oh, man. Now, Billy, though, but Billy is amazingly, when he meets someone,

he's just as blunt as if you're his friend. Like, he'll look at somebody and be like, you don't smell good. It's a good quality to have. He's honest. It is. So that's how I would rank them. I would go Mario, Ryan, Drew, me, Shannon, Billy.

I just want to say that guy's wife. You don't know what we have going on, me and your husband. We have a little heart thing going on, and I'm sorry if you were embarrassed, but let us be us. Do you like that ranking? Do you think that's a fair ranking? I actually, and I'm being dead sincere. I think all of us do a really good job, meeting people, talking to people. You do a good job after the show, like you said, come to the restaurant.

You go to like almost every table. to say, hey, thanks for coming in. Appreciate you stopping by. Yeah, I think that's probably a lot. All right, so when we come back, I have a draft that we're doing. The four of us. I need you all to get your minds right. Because this is going to be one that's important.

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