KSR - 2025-04-24- KSR - Hour 2

Episode Date: April 24, 2025

Matt, Ryan, Drew, and Shannon talk NFL Draft and all the latest news. Also Kash Daniel joins the show to talk UK Football and his in-ring debut at OVW.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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772, 774, 5254. It's interesting. Views all over Ryan, the place on the distribution. There are people like the caller who say, look, you've got to do football or we won't be competitive. I see a lot of people going football and basketball should get an equal amount, which is, I mean, football's got 85 players, basketball's got 13. And like we've talked about before, the other Blue Bloods like Duke, North Carolina, out of Kansas. They're probably not going to donate as much to football as maybe

SEC schools do. Duke is definitely not going to. Absolutely. I mean, again, I just think about the big East schools. Think about Yukon and St. John. They don't even have football. Yukon has it, but they don't care. No. So St. John's, Villanova. Yeah, another one. Craton. Like those teams, this is an opportunity for them. Yes. And then something to watch is that some of these teams are going to take private equity. and that's a whole other conversation for a whole other day. But I think our team down the street is going to be the first team to take private equity. And if that happens, you just remember who said it to you first.

And when that happens, it's a different world. Yeah. It's a different world. They're going to start letting investment funds invest in their college sports team. And then all of a sudden, our SEC TV money ain't going to look as good. Our rival will be the Louisville Planet Fitness Cardinals. Yeah. No, I mean, think about it.

if it's the, you know, Houston Elon Musk. I'm using that as an example, but like, anything could happen. And this money you're talking about, in addition would be Club Blue NIL money? Like this would be in addition to? Well, this is very complicated. I'm going to wait for the settlement because like they pushed off the settlement for a couple weeks. But it's very complicated. But long story short, in theory, you no longer would be able to pay players to come to your school. But in practice, who the hell?

You're right. No, I mean, who knows? Yeah. All right. Shannon has the clip. This is my view. Oh, no. I'm like half kidding. This is like 10%. This is also kind of my view. Go ahead. Of course. I'm not coming then because that is an ultimate and immediate vibe killer. Hang on, there's kids allowed here?

Yeah, duh, of course. I'm not coming then because that is an ultimate. Ultimate and immediate vibe killer. Makes it seem dirty, cheap. I don't know about that. Kids mean bacteria, no thanks. See, there you go. I love you.

Vib killer, bacteria. You know, it makes dirty, cheap. It's okay. All right, a couple things. NFL drafts tonight. Yes, it is. Shador Sanders could go as high as third or could drop out of the first round.

That's the big story, it seems like. Shador Sanders, to me, will know what he's going to do based on whether or not he's got cameras in his living room. No, I'm being dead serious. If they think he's going to get picked high, because he's not going to the draft. He doesn't want to have the Will Levis, Aaron Rogers, drop. So he's not even going to the draft. To me, if they let cameras be live in the house, they think he's going pretty high.

If they don't, they're worried that he doesn't. I mean, this is a guy, I mean, they had a reality show following him around. They ain't scared of cameras. This is Dionne Sanders. Do you remember what he wore in the draft night? You ever seen that video? Go look at what Dion wore on his draft night. I can only imagine.

You don't think they would have a camera on Shador Sanders. But if they start the draft and they go around all the places and there is not a camera in his house, then he's slipping. That's my prediction. If you see a camera, then he's going in the top. If you don't see a camera, then it could be a long night. I like that.

It's hard to, you know, at this point, a lot of teams are trying to get people to fall and rise with their comments. But I did find it interesting yesterday that one anonymous team said it was the worst interview they've ever had because he was just throwing his teammates under the bus and it was me, me, me, me, me, so there's, that could be a team trying to put that out there so they can get him. Yeah. But to be the worst interview.

But don't you feel like they say that about people that they just don't want to pick? So, I mean, right. In the three days leading up to the draft, there's all kinds of stuff out there. It's teams, there's motivated to give... Like they said that stuff about Lamar, and everybody who's ever dealt with Lamar says he's like the nicest guy. And then when Lamar came out, they were like, oh, you know, he's this, he's that. I think they just want an excuse to cover their butt when they don't pick him, right? Does this seem like a lot of the NFL draft expert guys keep sliding him down their board a little each time I see that.

I'm going to know where he's going solely based on whether or not the cameras. If there's no camera, then he ain't getting picked until the end of the night. Or if at all. Maxwell Harrison, does he go in the first round? Yes or no? I think he does, and I hope so, because he'll be featured. I mean, they talked about him just now on this TV, whatever this is. Today show this morning, he's going to be in the green room.

It wouldn't be as bad as Levis, who thought he would go second, but it would stink to see another guy sit in the green room from Kentucky and not get picked. So I think he does. Made a huge jump. I mean, when the season started, I think they thought he was maybe, what, fourth round? Now he's going to get picked maybe in the first round. And it was hurt, what, three or four games you're didn't even play. So a huge jump by him.

But he also ran the fastest time at the 40 and one of the six fastest times in history. History. So, yeah, that's probably what I enjoy the draft. Do you like the draft? I enjoy the pageantry. I like seeing people cry and their moms. And there's always like, there's always some mother that like hugs, you know, or some father that looks at his player's girlfriend too long or something.

There's always a moment that I enjoy. Yeah. I love to watch. Sorry, who was the dude where his girlfriend came and stole his phone? CD Lamb. Cowboys. Yeah, Cedie Lamb. And then there, you know, Will Levis's girlfriend became famous.

Yes, she did. Off sitting there next to him. Who's the player whose mom pushed the girlfriend off? She was getting too much TV time. Yeah, that's right. That was just a year to go. Joe Burroughs parents' couch and curtains were getting roasted. Oh, they did have bad curtains.

Their house looked like it was from like the 1700s. I love it, but as a Titans fan, it's always the worst night of the year. But you've got the number one pick. You know who you're getting. Yeah, I don't love that either. We always do the wrong thing. I'd love to see my bears get Ashton Genty, the running back, but he probably won't be there when they go. So, like, I don't really know who they're going to get.

I don't understand why this Louisville quarterback is rising in the first round. He was okay, but he's also, he's my age. He's like 45. Wow, that's old. I know. It's a little old for the first round of the draft, isn't it? I think I believe. look it up, I believe he is

45 years old, that is a gamble. 45. 45. It's a little bit of a gamble to pick him. Yeah. I think Levis might be in the news tonight. It sounds like he's going to be.

Yeah, he may. Let's go to Justin. What's up, Justin? I want to say, by the way, Bob and Jamestown and Boyce are on a race for total calls. Right now, Boyce leads 530 to 492. No.

Boyce has like a lot. almost a thousand. He has almost a thousand? Yeah. Bob has 741. Oh, so you're seeing a different number than I am. Yeah. But Bob and Jamestown has called 14 times since this show started today.

Justin, go ahead, Justin. Okay. Hey, guys. I got two quick questions for you. Okay. I'm deciding on whether I should go to watch Kentucky at Arkansas next year for basketball or Kentucky at Louisville. I live right outside of Fayetteville, and I know a bunch of hog fans.

I've been getting a lot of crap, you know, but. It's a good question. You got to pick one. You got to pick one. Kentucky at Louisville? Kentucky and Arkansas. Which one? Yes, sir.

Yep. Or what? Just those two. And then I have a question if you guys will be at KSR, a few of you at KSR next Friday. Don't know about next Friday. We will be at KS Bar tomorrow, and I'll let you know about next Friday. to call. You can either go to one game at Louisville at Arkansas. Where are you going? I think for this year

it's Kentucky's first trip to at Arkansas when cows on the other bench. I think I would pick that one over the game at Louisville. I'm going Louisville assuming I don't get physically assaulted again, but I would want to go there. That could happen. I just don't really have any Arkansas banter rivalry. I know cows there, but there's so much more juice in Louisville. Which one you're going to, Shannon? robbery has got to be Louisville and they're actually somewhat good now.

They don't suck like they did with Kenny. So I think Louisville. Well, that's a tough question because both teams will be good. And he lives in Fayetteville. It would be yeah, man, I'm probably going to Fayetteville because I've been to the Louisville game a bunch over the years

and we beat them this year. And I feel like we need to win at Arkansas. Yes. And I think if we win, I'd go to tin roof right under his apartment. And like just have a... And hit the ceiling? No, I wouldn't hit the ceiling.

I wouldn't want to disrupt his sleep. But I think that would be like a fun thing. So I think I would go Arkansas. I think for that dude living in Fayetteville, Kentucky's first trip there. I think you've got to go to that game. Yeah. The Louisville game's going to be awesome, though. I mean, because the Louisville game is going to be like they're going to think they can win.

Then we're going to rip their hearts out. Again. Again. That game has become Groundhog Day. I mean, it's funny because two, like, before I went to Amsterdam, before I went to Amsterdam, Louisville fans were doing the whole like, oh, Pat Kelsey's got his squad, Mark, Mark. And then all of a sudden now, three weeks later, they're like,

well, you have to get a $20 million payroll to be as good as Pat Kelsey. And I just love it, it's just the cycle of a Louisville fan, which is you convince yourself this is different. different. It's not. And then you make excuses. That's what Louisville Basketball 101 is. Convince yourself, get disappointed, get angry, blame Kenny Pay. That's what they do. Watch rinse. And then it's, and that's going to happen again this year. So it would be exciting, Ryan, to be there for that. There's no doubt about it. And they are going to be better. But you're all, you're right, they're all coming out from underneath their rocks right now,

especially in football. A lot of Louisville football fans are already pounding in their chest, thinking they're going to make a big run this year. So the rivalry is coming back. One person writes, Matt, I saw that the new defense secretary had a makeup studio put in the defense department. Did you and Drew and Ryan wear makeup when you were on TV? And is it wrong for a military person to wear makeup? I'm going to take up for a trumper here.

If you're going to go on television, sometimes you need makeup. Now, I didn't wear it a lot because I got the light set to where it looked good on my skin on Hey, Kentucky. But I would always tell guess it's not set for your skin. You might want to wear makeup. So if he's going to do television interviews, I think it's okay to have a makeup studio. Plus, he used to be on television, so he understands that. I think, I mean, you know, Donald Trump is orange for the, for the reason. of makeup, I'm okay with makeup.

Did you wear makeup when you were on TV? You had to. I usually wore powder. I didn't necessarily wear makeup every day, but I wore the powder. Just kind of get those sweaty spots off my forehead. But when we went HD, I mean, if you didn't, you'd see every whisker, every pimple, everything on your face. Yes.

I would wear it sometimes in the winter when I got sun. I wouldn't have to wear it so much. Yeah. Because I can get red when I get sun. But yes, you need it. You have to. You know, pairing was, pairing wore more makeup than anybody. And I remember one time saying to him, I was like, man, if I had your, because he's got like perfect skin.

I was like, if I had your skin and I was black, I don't think I'd wear makeup. He was like, you should. Look at me on the screen. And he would wear makeup all the time. Yeah. So I actually think wearing makeup is totally understandable if you're on television. Because when people aren't, they look like death. Right?

You can tell. You can tell. High definition cameras now. Especially if it was set to your skin versus parents. I mean, that would be a big contrast. So that's probably why the guy had to wear it. Actually, you're right. Because like it was set to my skin and then parent would sit down.

Did you wear it when you came on? Yeah, I had to meet the makeup lady when we first got hired. I still have a big bag of makeup under my sink. I don't know that I need that anymore. But as time went on, I think I stopped wearing it. But for the first year, however long it was, I would put it on. And then awkwardly, you know, we would tape it like two or three. then I'd go out to eat or the grocery and friends would be like,

I tell you, you couldn't. You wearing makeup right now? It's like, yes, I am wearing makeup. Who could have used more makeup was Joe Biden. He could have, he could have towards the end, Ryan, used a little bit more makeup. If somebody following around, give a little touch up every five seconds. I mean, he might have needed done more than that, but I still think.

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I don't know what it's going to end up being, but it's every school is going to have to make a choice. And I bet there are some schools, Ryan, who just say, I don't even care about basketball. There will be. There'll be some that do that. Yes. Georgia, maybe, you know, where they don't give as much more. basketball to football. But yet, okay, so you're looking at that SEC football schedule.

You're telling me every SEC school is going to give a lot more money to football than maybe the outside of Vanderbilt. That's going to be tough pill to swallow. Yeah. But then the other side would be, why do we give the same amount to football, and we're still not as good as they are? That's what the other side might say. That's a great argument. Yeah, you know, that's why I say Kentucky's in such a weird spot, because a lot of these schools will not care if they ignore basketball. Like Georgia, heck, most of the SEC schools, but I can tell you's got to probably have the most balance

because you can't just let football die because it has the most players and brings in the most revenue overall. 859-280-2287. Cash Daniel is going to join us in the next segment, talk a little football, and he is making his wrestling debut. How about that? His met wrestling in Pikeville at Hillbilly Days tomorrow night.

Wrestling debut in an arena, Shannon. It's going to be awesome, yeah. Superior Tony Evans is going to be in there as his opponent. It's a big first opponent. He's going right to the top. Dude, I'm actually like, most people make their debut like in a dark match that nobody sees like in a little arena. He's making his debut, his first match at Pikeville Appalachian Wireless Arena during Hillbilly Day. Where's a huge crowd for Hillbilly Days.

There'll be a huge crowd in that arena, mainly to watch him, I think, make his debut. That is, that's something else. Steve, before we go to the phone, Steve Mungo Michael. passed away. Steve Mungo-McMichael had ALS, which is just a debilitating disease for when people have it. It's very sad what they go through. But he played for the 85 Bears, my team, right? The team that got me into the Chicago Bears, it's why I'm a fan.

Then he later was in wrestling, was actually very good at it for a while. But he was on the 85 Bears. I was trying to think, how many football teams, ever have had as many dudes who like are kind of everybody knows like legendary. Think about it. Walter Payton. Yes. The punky QB known as McMahon.

Yeah. Mike Singletary. Yep. Right. Refrigerator Perry. Absolutely. Steve Mungo McMichael. And you could even though go to like Dan Hampton and Willie Galt.

But those five I just mentioned are known by almost every football fan. Not many teams like that. They were the team of the 80s. And they made their song, Super Bowl shuffle. They were good. They had Mike Ditka's the coach. They were talking smack all the time. And Mungoose was a big part of what they were doing.

His name was Mungoose. He was not Mungoose. Did you? I call him the Mungoose. I remember him as one of the four horsemen in wrestling. That's kind of what I'm learned about him. The second generation of the four horsemen with Rick Flair and Arne Anderson and all that. But he was on that team.

And do you think, like you've watched football your whole, do you think that was like the best team of all time? You could make a great argument that it was and not in order to the good on the field. Like you mentioned, the characters off the field. They were just, everybody knew them. And we still talk about them today. And he also, like I said, he died of ALS, the Lou Gehrig's disease, which is a disease that is so sad to watch people go through. And that guy especially, he was six five. and massive Shannon.

You remember in wrestling, how massive he was. And like the pictures of him at the end where the disease had just, I mean, it's just a very sad. I really do say a prayer for everybody who has a family member that deals with that. That has to be a very, very difficult disease. Yeah, that picture was kind of surfaced yesterday of him in his bed and his final days is just heartbreaking. It really is. Because, again, he was so huge and so. larger than life in some many ways.

But anyway, rest in peace to one of my childhood heroes from the 85 bears. Joe, go ahead, Joe. Thanks a lot, Matt. Joe, what's wrong with your phone? Got J.J.J.J.C., his phone. I'm going to tell you later on. I have no idea. Thank you all. Call the day.

Joe's phone was just farting. Too farty. I mean, how does a phone even get like that? Definitely had some... Can I ask you? How many... I don't know. I mean, how many radio shows, Shannon, do you listen to?

Where people's phones have as many problems as the phones on this show. And this has been an ongoing thing for at least 13 years. I mean, how many calls do you make on a daily basis where your phone just doesn't work? Never. Once every... A month? Yeah. And we have people whose phones start just over.

the moment they get in. And I don't know how that happens. Do you? No. And a lot of times it's a problem we recognize. You say, get out of the elevator, get out of the tunnel. I don't know what that was right there. That was a new sound for me.

I mean, I don't think I've ever heard a phone pass gas in my entire life. And his phone was very gassy for that. To Joe's credit, he recognized it. Yeah. And was like, I'm not going to fight through this. But he didn't hear that while he was on hold for 20 minutes. It is absolutely baffling to me. I'll tell you what else is baffling.

How many people in Chevy Chase were mad at me for saying their neighborhood. I got text for Chevy Chase. Me too. People, let me read you one of these. Because this was one I got last night. Matt, I live in Chevy Chase. And I think you owe the people of Chevy Chase an apology. Chevy Chase is not only the best neighborhood in Lexington.

Lexington is the best neighborhood in the state. of Kentucky. I'll give you the reasons. Safety. Your kids can ride their bicycle. I don't have a kid. You can walk to restaurants. There's beautiful nature and the people are pleasant. I like your show, but if you want to still be liked in Chevy Chase, you should start your show next tomorrow apologizing for what you said. I think Drew and I got similar texts. Matt at you for disparaging the good word of the Chevy Chase neighborhood. I'm not disparaging it. I think it's a beautiful neighborhood.

I'm saying, why are the home so expensive? I went back and looked at that house again. Go look it up. I'm not going to tell you the address, but it's $1.392 million. I saw it. Is that not crazy? I think it's smaller than my house. It's smaller than where I have $1.392 million.

We'll be right back. T.J. Smith, personal injury attorney. Call T.J. He'll make them pay. Now, more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones. Welcome back, Kentucky Sports Radio. Now joined by Cash Daniel. A multiple-time KSR guest was on the KSR pregame show for various times.

Cash, first thing I'm going to say to you is you need to get in the gym. Like, you're starting to get soft. I don't know. What's happening with you? I kind of let myself go. I mean, I saw you on OVW a few weeks ago and I was like, my goodness. I mean, are you bigger than when you played football? Yeah, 100%.

I'm probably looking at about 260 pounds right now. But like just muscle. I mean, like, massive. Yeah. How long do you work out every day? So it's actually changed a lot. You know, when I first started out, and there's a big difference between weightlifting and bodybuilding and muscle building.

Okay. For me, so at first. Give me the difference as a person who does neither. So like weightlifting, you know, you're focused on just how much weight you can move. You know, for me and muscle building, it's about, you know, how much weight can I move at the best form that I could use at the slowest tempo that I could use. Because at the end of day, like I was telling Billy this out there, we're talking about, you know, the difference in, you know, benching and everything like that and just micro-tearing

the fibers of your muscles, you know, and then your diet and between your protein, your carbs and everything else comes in to rebuild the muscle, ultimately making you stronger, ultimately making you bigger. Ryan used to micro tear his muscles, but not on purpose. He just said a foreign language to me. What is you talking about right there? In terms of though training, like, football, you're looking for what's different than what you do now, right?

100% different. Football, you know, we're looking for explosiveness. You know, we're trying to see how much weight can we move at the fastest rate. You know, and for me now, it's about, you know, how much greater form can I have while moving as much weight as I can. It's a whole different dynamic. I want to talk to you about what you're doing now, but I also want to talk to you for a minute about football.

You are a part of some of the glory years of UK football. Where do you think, as putting on your analyst hat, the UK football program is now? You know, I was very fortunate to be a part of a great group that coach suits brought in. It was a brotherhood that I'll never forget and will cherish. forever. You know, I think in the past couple years, we've gotten away from what got us there, as far as, you know, everybody being bought in on the mission. I think NIL has something to do with that, you know. I think that at the end of the day, you know, it's about coming together as a

group and understanding that we have a job to do, and we've got to go out there and do it to the best of our potential and best of our abilities. Otherwise, you know, we're going to be right back to where we were. I know you still talk to people around the program. Do you think they can get back to that. I mean, NL does make you have to do it a different way. But there are people that are doing it successfully. So do you think they can get back to where they need to be? I think they can. I mean, it just comes down to team leadership and, you know, the guys that you appoint to be your captains and making sure that everybody's held accountable. So from the moment that you walk into the building, whether it be for weights, whether it be for meetings,

whether it be for practice, that you're there with a purpose and that you only have X amount of time there. And so do it to the best of your ability. And, you know, you'll see the, you'll see the results come with that. When you watch the team last year, because you will see it a different way than we see it having played. When you watch the team last year, you would, would have sit there and said, what is missing? Just overall, just, like I said, the team leadership aspect of it. Like discipline?

Discipline and holding guys accountable. Okay. You know, with some of the things that you saw. But I think that, you know, I was over to one spring practice this year. You know, the vibes were definitely different this year than when I was over there last year. Better? Better. Okay.

Seems like Coach Stubes is back to. There is a vibe thing. People don't, you can feel it when you go to practices. You can, it's weird. You can know nothing about what's going on and you can feel a positive or negative vibe. Do you agree with that? Absolutely. Energy is real.

And I believe that when I walked in there this spring, you know, it's not 100% like it was, you know, when we were there because it just seemed like, you know, it was straight business, you know, just getting right after it. And I'm not saying that they're not. But I'm just saying it's completely different from what it was last year in the right direction. Good. Okay, well, that's good to hear. Now, you made a decision recently. I mean, since you were playing football,

since we beat Florida and you went to the sideline and smashed the water bottles, people have said, Cash Daniels should be a wrestler. Like, people have said that forever. I, when you got done, was pushing you to do that. And you were like, I don't know, I don't know. And then I said, all right, I'll let him make his decision.

And then you'd made the decision to do it. Why did you do that? Because at the end of the day, you know, when I left college, and the way that it ended with COVID. And, you know, I expected myself to, there was a free agent deal on the table for me. It got taken away because my medical records got red flagged.

And so I'm sitting there thinking now, the rug got pulled out from my head. I mean, I didn't know that. Yes. Well, you, I mean, do you want to, you don't have to talk about that. No, it's fine. So it was funny because I had a deal worked out with my agency.

They were telling me they were going to work out, I deal with the Saints. Talk to the Saints, everything's good. I'm actually turkey hunting. And so the day of the draft. So I'm like, okay, I'm not getting drafted. They said we're working out of a deal.

I'm going hunting. And I'm in the woods. And the craziest thing about it is I was working a bird. I about got it. What do you mean? I was working. He was gobbling. He was coming in.

I was like, okay, we're about to get after. And I get a text from, you know, a coach, believes from the Giants and said, you know, the seventh round's coming up. You know, if you're available, you're going to take you. Oh, okay. So I get out of the woods, rush home. And they had three picks in that round.

The first pick of the round, middle pick of the round, and Mr. Relevant, the last pick of the draft. So the first two come, and I'm thinking, wow, me and Marty Moore about to be in the scene. Probably two Mr. Relevant. Linebackers come out of Kentucky, and they took a linebacker from Georgia. So I'm calling my agent, you know, like, you're freaking out, like, you know, what's going on? And he said, man, he said, I don't know how to tell you this kid, but, you know, they read Flagger Medical Records. I'm like, well, okay. You know, we still got to deal with the Saints, right?

He goes, no, you don't understand. When that happens, that goes league wide. So the Saints are out, too. And so with COVID and everything, we didn't get a. rookie mini camp, none of that stuff. So at that point in that moment in time, my football career was over. Wow. That's got to be tough. It was hard. Yeah, it was, I think you can talk to any athlete, you know, whether it be my situation or they have a couple years in the league or they don't even get an opportunity in the league. The transition is the hardest part and the hardest

period of any. Because you've done it your whole lot. You've dedicated your entire life to it. And I think, and going back to your question of why now, you know, there was a fear aspect in me of that I gave everything I had to football. I mean, I gave up everything to try to be the best that I could be, and it just wasn't good enough. So am I willing to do that all over again and maybe have the potential to not make it or achieve the goal that I want to? That's interesting.

So it was almost like you didn't want to be disappointed again. I didn't want to have that letdown again. Interesting. And so, but at the end of the day, you know, I've done a lot of, you know, soul searching within myself. I finally, you know, come to terms of who I am. and, you know, why God put me on this earth? And, you know, I've done a lot of praying and rekindle my relationship with God.

And, you know, that's been probably the biggest help and the biggest aspect for me and understanding that I was had. I had somebody that knows you pretty well, say to me when they saw that you were going to be doing this event, the Pike Bowl thing, that you felt like you had grown up more in the last six months than they had seen your whole life. And this is somebody I think that cares about you quite a bit. Would you agree with that? 100%. Yeah. It's back to prayer again. And, you know,

an understanding that God blessed me with so many abilities and so many opportunities that come my way that it would be a slap in the face to a lot of people and especially to him that, you know, I'm blessing you with these abilities

and you're not capitalizing on it. Yeah. And I realize that, you know, this can all end tomorrow. You know, I can, you know, God has the opportunity and the ability to stop your heart right now if he wants to. And so there's a, there's a grave, there's graveyards full of people who thought they

had more time. And so I'm going to live life every day like it's my last. And with every opportunity that comes and, um, be able to go out and, you know, show my abilities and my blessings that, that God gave me. Well, that's a great ad to. I mean, I've known you since you were 15 years old. And I, I have seen a difference in you in the last year. And I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm proud of you. I appreciate. I really am. Um, all right. So you decide to get in wrestling. you know, Shannon the dude is like this is his way, you know, he's been doing this forever. You could learn from this man, right? I could be your manager.

You need a manager, Cash. But you got into it. You've been training. So tell people what it's like to go from zero to now doing your first match tomorrow. What's it like training every day? It's incredible. I have so much fun. It's, I'm living, you know, I feel alive.

Every time I step in that arena, when I step in that ring and, you know, I'm, you know, I feel alive. truly do feel like I was born for this. And so just because of the comfortability that I feel in there, the way that I take to it, the way that I'm a sponge with everything that our trainers tell us, I mean, I can remember, I could tell you exactly everything that Doug told us this past weekend. So you're talking about Doug Basham, Al Snow.

Al Snow. Jay De Niro, he was my beginner's course trainer. So, and just the opportunity to step in there every day is just incredible. And so, but the biggest thing is that in football, you know, you're always told to speed up. And this, you slow down. I'm having to be told to slow down. Yeah, they're big on. So tell people what it's like just to fall.

Like, I don't think, Shannon, you know this because you've done the training. I don't think people realize, like the first thing they teach you is to fall. Yeah. Explain to people what that means. So taking a bump, obviously there's a way to fall and a way to protect yourself. The biggest thing in wrestling is not only are you. you're in there protecting yourself, but you're trying to protect the guy that you're working with. That's the biggest thing. We're all about protection of being professionals in there.

So when you're taking a fall, you have to be able to brace and understand where to hit on the mat. So explain to people what that means. So you, when you fall, you spread out. Attack the mat. Talk about that. So attacking the mat when you fall down, it's almost like in football, in power cleans, you come through your hips. So the same thing when you fall, you're coming in with your hips coming out and you're spreading your arms out. tucking the chin, making sure your head doesn't hit the mat. So it disperses the energy across your body so it doesn't put as much pressure on one part. Exactly. And you tuck your chin so you don't hit your head on the back.

And right flat on your back and smack the mat as you come down with all in one motion. And you all, and you get to the point where your body does that naturally, right? I actually fell the other day in my house and I took a bump. Did you really? I actually did. The goal is to teach your brain to fall like that, right? Yeah, I actually, so it was a rug that I didn't have anything underneath it. And literally the rug slipped out from underneath me.

I literally just, you know, mind-muscle connection just went, boom. And you smack it like that. And it didn't hurt. Now, I have seen Al do this with people. Your early things, you're just doing that over and over and over. Am I right? Yeah, they're trying to burn it into your brain. And it hurts, doesn't it?

I mean, you've played football that hurts. Yeah. This hurts, too, though. I'm still getting in the ice bath every day. It hurts. Is that right? Yeah. It hurts.

especially now where we're in intermediate class, you know, and learning how to take different bumps, hip tosses, body slams, clothes lines, shoulder tackles, turnbuckles in the corner. It's a lot of, it's a lot of bagels. People think those rings are bouncy. They think they're a trampoline. Even Billy. Cash, you've got to explain to Billy.

That's not a trampoline. That hurts. They're not bouncy. No, you got about maybe a quarter inch of foam padding, I call it. It's like a styrofoam almost. And then underneath that is nothing but wood. Wood. That's all it is.

And you got two or one. If you watch the Netflix series wrestlers, you see them when they're in the Harlan episode. They're carrying the wooden slabs. That's what's under there. Yep. We built the one there at the event we had at the Louisville Airfield a couple weeks ago. And so I got to be a part of that and seeing, you know, exactly how the rings put together, you know, and all the dynamics that go into that. Yeah.

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It's during hillbilly days. Are you nervous? No, I'm not nervous at all. Just like I said, because, you know, I feel like this is what I was meant to do. And, you know, when you're meant to do something, I think that, you know, the nerves kind of go away. Now, I say that now, you know, but I could get to the arena. And it's like, do you have music. Wait, do you know what your music is?

I do have music. I do have music. Good for you. Got some pretty good music. But, uh, so you're going to, so like, but I mean, most people, their debut match is like before the show in front of 40 people or something. Like, you're going to be in an arena. Is that, that's crazy. And I think that's kind of what makes me not as nervous because it becomes a full circle moment for me.

Because my first wrestling match I ever saw, and it's funny, my mother actually sent me a picture. T&A came to town, and I got in the ring and got to take a picture with Kurt Engel. And she sent me that last night. And it's funny just thinking about how I'm going to be able to make my debut in the same arena. Wow. Oh, that's very cool. That's cool. Where I fell in love with wrestling.

And I think that's making it that full circle moment, making more of a present. of why, you know, I think I was meant to do this. All right, so you're wrestling. So it's tomorrow night, 7 o'clock. It's part of Hillbilly Days. It's an Appalachian Wireless Arena in Piteville, OVW. You should go out, root on the former cat here, Cash. You're going up against Superior Tony Evans.

And he is from Bowling Green. Two Kentuckians going at it. Are you, I don't know if, Shane, I don't know if he could win that. Superior's been around for a while, right? Yeah, I mean, with Katz. if he came in and had a win over Tony Evans right away. I mean, that would be like strapping the rocket to you, sending you all the way to the top.

Yeah. What do you, do you, you think you can take him? I know for a 100% fact that Tony Evans has never seen the athleticism, the explosiveness, and the level of violence that I bring to the table. Violence! In the ring. Wait a minute. Now, Tony's been doing a long time, though.

I mean, you're bigger than him, but he's got like all this. He knows the, he's got the smart moves. He knows he's an intellectual. wrestler. I mean, I know you're big cash, but I don't know. I mean, that's a guy who's been around the block a little bit. He can be around the block as much as he wants to. I'm just going to drag him out to the deep end and drown

him. He's already so good at this. I believe every word he says, too. I mean, he can have all the technicality of, you know, ability in the ring that he wants to when it comes down to sure willpower and the ability to go out and do what I do best is just, he has no

chance. He likes to talk a lot of trash. I mean, you've played against football players that talk. You famously put that dude on Florida, put his leg in a vice. Are you going to do something like that to him? No way to bring that up. I appreciate it. Yeah, but now's the time to bring

it up. I might save that for we go down to Gainesville, Florida is pissing people off. But no. You know, he comes out all every week, and he sounds, you know, he sounds constipated. He goes, uh, he sounds like a constipated mummy coming out there. I'm like, dude, the only person that needs to hush is your...

I save myself. Be careful. You get it's growth. That's exactly right. Save myself there. All right. Well, let's do some picks here. This will be our Draft King's pick of the day.

Tony Evans, Superior versus Cash Daniel. Ryan Lemon, I'll let you go first. Who you got? Well, it's a great thing that Cash and I are in the studio at the same time because people mistake me for him all the time. I don't think that's true. And I think his wrestling career started when he threw me into a table at KS. Bar and Grill.

So there's no doubt. He did do that. Cash Daniel. winner and his rookie debut, the winner from Payfield, Kentucky, Cash, Daniel! All right, what about you, Drew? You know, I did a 20-minute Peloton workout where I broke my muscles down last night, so I know what I'm talking about here, and it is going to be inferior Tony Evans because Cash Daniel is going to destroy him.

Interesting, okay, all right, now I'll let Shannon go last. I'm going to pick Cash, Eastern Kentucky in 606. I do think it's going to be a tough match. Tony is from Bowling Green, gone a long time. hilltopper and he's actually a good talker. I like Tony. Adam A. May was his manager once. The comedian Edomay, if you remember. So you have to remember that. But with the home crowd, Cash Daniels is going to get his first victory. Shannon, I'll let you finish. Who you got? Remember Cash putting Ryan through

that table? I mean, that looked pretty impressive, but I don't know if you can do it to a guy like Superior or Tony Evans. So Cash, sorry, man. I got to, I'm picking Tony Evans. Tony Evans is going to beat you down, Cash. I'm sorry. Hey, I respect your decision. there, Shannon, but here's the thing. I'm not worried about a guy who had to have paid protection to watch his back. That's true. He has Jay De Niro. That's true. I'm not worried about a guy like that.

You don't have any protection. You came in here without a posse at all. All me. I just thought of, cash has done a lot of radio. The world radio heavyweight champion belt is up for grabs. Yeah, Shannon, where are you going to wrestle? Come on. I'll get around to it. You know, I defended on my own timeline. When's the last time you've been in the match,

Shannon? I feel like you've held that title. without defending it in a while. I think it was just maybe a couple of weeks ago I was in there. All right. Seven o'clock tomorrow night. Cash, proud of you? Yes. Seriously.

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