KSR - 2025-04-25- KSR - Hour 1

Episode Date: April 25, 2025

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It's a big day. We have to talk about UK athletics made its biggest change in what it is ever yesterday, in my opinion. Like in terms of, and I don't think it's going to have as massive an effect, but it is complete. I think UK changed the way most colleges. are going to do athletics yesterday, and we have to talk about it. You know, they kind of set the pace now for other schools to follow, right? They're kind of a leader in that. Yeah, potentially.

But we're going to get to that, but we have to start with the draft. Because I find Drew the draft to be one of the more entertaining things that has nothing to do with football. I'm going to be honest with you. I don't ever know any of these people. Like, they can, you know, I start following the draft about a week before, and then I learn things that are apparently very important, and then I have strong opinions. So let me just go through a couple of things. Let's hear them.

First of all, I'll give an example of how I have a strong opinion that I had no opinion about a few days ago. I had zero opinion about Will Johnson of LSU's arm length. Okay? I didn't even know who the kid was. I had no opinion about it. And then I started listening to Draft Podcasts, and they kept saying, you know, the problem with Will Johnson there at number four for the Patriots, his arms are really short. And his last name is Campbell. And they are so close then.

Will Campbell. Same thing. We're still learning. But I was focused on his arms. They just kept saying there's no way a guy can play left tackle in the NFL with arms that short. And I thought, well, why would that be a big deal? And then I was like, well, you know, you got to block and get them out. So I decided when he was about to get picked, I'm sitting there watching.

I'm like, I'm watching for his arms. Yes. There's no way his arms are as short as they say they are. Right? Because they keep, how short can the man's arms be? A little T-Rex arms. Yeah. So he gets up.

He has on a suit that, respectfully, white people should not wear that color. You should not wear green. I wear green to the oaks sometimes as a joke. Yes. But you should not wear a pinstriped green suit as a pale white guy. But he did. He's having his moment. Yes, he is.

But when he gets up, all right, true. He gets up and he stands up. and I look, and he's got will be arms. He's got will be arms. They barely get to his waist. So like right now, wherever you are, if you're not driving, you can stand up, put your arms down. Stand up, you see. You are supposed to have your arms like halfway down your pocket.

Okay. Okay. Maybe a little towards the bottom of your pocket, assuming you're wearing your pants at the right place. All right, so I have very long arms. I go to the bottom of my pocket. Go yesterday and watch Will Johnson. His barely come to his pocket. And I just decided right then, bust.

Bust with his will-bee arms, they're not going to work. Had no opinion on the guy's arms until yesterday. Strong opinion after. A hardest part of the night was Roger Gale shaking his hand. I didn't think Will could even get his arm out there to shake Roger's hand. I thought he was going to wear like the Secret Service fake arms in his suit to, you know, kind of extend those a little bit. You thought he wasn't even going to be able to reach you.

Goodell had to go 99, and Will just had to go one for that handshake. That's what I love about the draft. You just have things that you never cared about that then you decide to care. So I'm going to go over. I went through some notes. Are you ready? Ready. I thought it was really dorky for Roger Goodell to come out on that bicycle.

All right. I know in Green Bay people ride bikes, but he looks so awkward. Yes, he did. And it's actually very hard, Drew, to ride a bike slowly. And, you know, he had to ride a bike slowly. It's actually hard to do that because you have to keep your balance, and I thought that was weird. And at that age, Shannon, you rode the Packers bike. Oh, yeah.

Are you a former Packers bike rider? I am, yeah. So did you like that he came out in the bike? I thought it was a cool nod to the Packers. Okay. Yeah. Then they picked Cam Ward. There's never been a first pick, Ryan, they've talked about less.

Barely, barely mentioned it. And then there was a trade, and they were like, all right, well, the number one guy is the quarterback next. Yep. So, like, he was gone. Like, there's never been a number. number one overall pick that was talked about less than Cam Ward. Yeah, because, you know, all week they were talking about he was probably going to be the number one pick. So it wasn't a surprise, but that trade was a little bit of a surprise.

So that's why they wanted to emphasize. Travis Hunter goes number two. I just remember my number one thing was, is he still dating his girlfriend? Because you remember that was a big thing on TikTok for a while, is his girlfriend would like yell at him. You know, do you remember that? Yeah. She'd like come out on the field and be like, stand up straight, sit down. Don't take pictures with her.

Yeah, stop taking pictures. But she was there. So she's made it to the draft. Good for her. They're getting married next month. There you go. Did you like his pink suit? You know, it was fine.

I really like Travis Hunter. I thought the Jags might have given up way too much for him. But he just seems like a fun guy that loved being there when he's running through the tunnel, bouncing off the walls. I was happy for him. Poor Liam Cohen. Like all people do is make fun of him. Like the moment they make that trade, everybody's just posting that, Duval. Like, you know, Shadden.

Do you still have that drop, Shadden? I don't know you ever saved it. Oh, you should have. It's so terrible. That's never going to leave him. Never. It's never going to haunt him forever. He's going to have that forever, isn't he?

Yeah, I mean, that's all the internet was. I mean, really when I just see him, just a photo of him in a Jags outfit, I hear it in my head. That's just associated with him. Hold on. I do have it. Here it is. Here it is. Do ball.

I mean, like, that's going to stay with him forever. Because as soon as they show him, that's all anybody knows about him outside of Kentucky. You know, we kind of thought he was a little bit of a dork anyway. That emphasized he is king of the dorks. There was a baby that threw up. Did you see that? I thought about you immediately. I mean, Matt would have loved to have been right there next to that baby. It was exactly what I was talking about when I played that Judy Gemstone clip. Babies have bacteria. Babies are that they're not classy. And so here it is night and the baby just throws up. I know it's spit up, but whatever, it's still gross, just throws up on.

everybody. Now, to be fair to the baby, the mother was jumping up and down. Jumping up and down, and that baby was asleep, and all of a sudden it was like, shaking that baby all over the place. There was a lot of baby shaking going on, it felt like. There's always a secondary character at the draft. You know, as Will Leves's girlfriend, a few years. There's always someone that wasn't supposed to be the star and they become the star. And last night, it was that baby that now needs to be in concussion protocol from mom just banging its head around. Another thing I noticed, for the people that were not at the draft, it feels like the amount of people getting invited into the rooms keeps growing.

Yeah. Like there are 50 to 60 people now in each room. I was thinking, if it were me, I don't wouldn't have this many people. I think I would have a very small group. I don't even know if I know 60 people that I would want to go. Would you have a big group in yours? If I was a chance to be a first-round draft pick, I would have the whole city of Lexington probably join me.

I actually believe that. Yes. I wouldn't want all those people in my house. Plus, you're waiting, and they're looking at you like, let's go happen here in a minute. I just don't think I would enjoy that. I think I would have a pretty big party. If I were going to the green room,

it would it be hard to get all those people to want to travel to Green Bay. But other than that, I think I'd like to have my squad there. Would you want to be at the draft, or would you want to be at your house? Because it looked like there were more people at their house than usually are amongst the top picks. A lean house, unless I was for sure tops with just the fear of being one of the guys that sits there. Because you get talked about forever. even though you're not a bust you're considered one because you didn't get picked on night one

uh Shannon are the bears picked a guy and he was a tied in and he was the second rank tied in even though the first rank tied in was on the board so I thought I was I was a little disappointed and then they showed his house and he had two massive elk on his did you see that yeah yeah he had two just massive elk you think he mounted those himself I don't know but they they I don't really know elk size. I'm not an elk expert, but it felt like to me those were really big elk. And so I thought, okay, I think I like

this guy now. I think I need my tight-in to have two really big elk. I feel like one elk's enough, though. You don't really need two. See, I think I need two. Because he's a tight-in, that means he can play on the left and the right side. Oh, okay. Because he's got two big elk. And so then I felt better about our pick. Well, you want your tight-in to be a little

nasty. So if he's out there hunting and maybe cleaned it himself, yeah, mouthing himself. I hope he cleaned himself. Clean the elk? You mean, clean the elk? Yeah. I mean, I think for his teammates, they need to clean. We don't want a Vader situation shit.

No, you don't watch his gear. That's right. Yeah, so I do hope he cleans himself. I've wondered, including him, if these guys, like, stage a house. Like, sometimes if you're doing a Netflix interview, they take you to Airbnb, so it looks nicer. I wonder if they're like, all right, let's rent some elk for the night, throw them on the wall. Let's really get this place looking nice for draft night. So then another thing I noticed, it felt like this year there were a lot more family members who had airbrushed T-show.

Like, there was the family where the kid had an airbrushed t-shirt of his parents, and the parent had an airbrushed t-shirt of the kid. I thought you could only get that done at Gatlinburg. But some of these looked really nice, like really nice airbrushed t-shirts. Do you like that trend? I didn't know that was a trend until last night when I saw some... There were a lot of them last night. Yeah, yeah, I don't know why that came from, why that started.

But, you know, it's a fashion statement. statement, you know? It's a weird fashion statement because I feel like the only people I see besides the draft wearing airbrushed t-shirts of their face are either people at Walmart or some funerals that they then have the service at the park and everyone wears a shirt. Those are the only times I ever see that. For high school spring break, maybe. That's about it. Yeah. It might have said that spring break 2001 on their shirts. Spring break 2001. They were big then. Okay. Maxwell Well, Harrison was one of the stars of the draft because he was so nice. First of all, he got picked by the bills.

That's great. He's going to be on a good team with Ray Davis. Ray Davis. So that's cool. But he was one of the stars of the draft because of how nice he was. First of all, great jacket. That was a great jacket, that blue jacket. Is that like peacock print?

I was trying to figure out what that was. I thought whoever got him his jacket, salute. Then he was just hugging everybody, Ryan. It kind of reminded me of you. Even though all these people were getting picked to have. of him, he seemed genuinely happy for everybody else. CBS Sports has this video this morning of them playing like a very sort of emotional song and just showing him hugging everybody. And then when it was his turn, they hugged him. I felt like Maxwell Harrison was the feel-good

story of the night. It was. I thought it was a great moment. And even after he got drafted, when Laura Rutledge interviewed his family, everybody in his family was the same way. They were all so nice. So nice. That's one of the things. You can football's got to do a better job of allowing us to know these kids. Because I had no idea that Maxwell Harrison was that big a personality. He should have been on this show all the time because he showed that in the last few days. Yeah, he was the star. I mean, I saw several tweets from people there, Alyssa Lane, K. Adams, they were saying

Max Harrison is the star of the draft. I mean, the guys would get their hat, they'd hug Max Harrison, and then they'd shake the commissioner's hand. It was all part of the process. And it's a great lesson. Like he seemed genuinely happy for everyone else, and then it worked out for him. He wasn't sitting there going, that should have been me. He was expressing joy to everybody else.

That was very cool. And you know how much he means are the guys in the UK locker room because you saw how they all reacted when he got drafted. Yes, there was a video of them. Yeah, jumping up and down and celebrating alongside of him. And then probably the biggest story was that Shador Sanders dropped out of the first round. Now, I said on this show, if they don't have a camera live on him, that's a problem. did have a room, but no one was in the room. Remember when they showed the room, there was nobody in it.

I was like, uh-oh. And then when they would go to the house, he was never on screen. It was just Dion and a dude in one of those big hats. Who was that guy? The Philly guy, Gilly. He does a lot with Barstool. Oh, is that who that was? That was the guy with the big hat?

Okay, well, I guess maybe he'll be at the thing. We might see him next Monday. But they just, they would never show him. That's when I knew it was going to be a long fall for him. Yeah, you kind of, you know, tip us off to that. If there's no live camera on the family and him sitting on the couch, he knew he's probably not going to be one of the top picks. But I was surprised he fell out of the first round.

Completely fell out of the first round. Yeah. When the Giants traded up to get a quarterback, I thought, well, there he is. He's going to New York. There was a lot pre-draft about him going to New York, and then they took Jackson Dart. That had to have just been a knife in the heart for him. Jackson Dart, by the way, guaranteed bust. Absolutely.

Guarantee. Every year I give you my four-star lock of the year bust. Anthony Richardson was that two years ago. Jackson Dart, guaranteed bust. There's no way that works out. Just mark it down. That made it much worse for him. And there was one moment where ESPN went to his house,

and they quickly cut it because they were watching the NFL network. Did you see that? It had the NFL network guy on the screen, and ESPN cut right back out. Yeah, and there were so many feeds you could watch. There was like the emotional feed, which was on ABC. That was like where they would tell you everybody and that their dog had died and all that.

And I watched the football feed, which is ESPN. And Mel Kipe. Everyone needs one person in life as happy as who loves them as much as Mel Kiper loves Shador Sanders. When Jackson Dart got picked, again, he didn't even talk about Jackson Dart. He just talked about how Shadurr Sanders was better. And I was like, I think Jackson Dark's going to be a bus, but at least give the guys due. He didn't even like, all he did was talking. You would think that he was married to Shudur Sanders' mom.

It was like after every pick, he'd go to Kuyper. He's like, well, Sanders is still on the board for the next team. It's like, what about the guy that just got drafted? Do you have anything to say about him? He's going down with the Sanders ship. Yeah, we said that before the show. He was going to die on that Shedur Sanders Hill, man. He was going to hang with him the whole time.

And you know, does it make him lose a little credibility? Because that was his number one quarterback. Well, we won't know until a few years from now, right? Like, I mean, he did this same thing with Aaron Rogers, where he was like, why are they letting Aaron Rogers slip? And that ended up. Aaron Rogers was good. Now, he's also did it with, like, Blaine Gabbard, who ended up terrible.

So you never really know. I thought you were going to lead with Clay Matthew. That was like a direct shot where he pulled out the... Yeah, I mean, he... The combination of Trump and the Bears suck. Clay Matthews. He's low on my list. But you know what?

Anytime I see a professional football player with a ponytail, I'm just assuming he's going to say something about Trump. It's all it's a Bosa or it's A.J. Horn or whatever his name is or it's Matthews. Like, they all, they all do it. I like to have, I'm not really caring about that rivalry to be on that stage and pull out the bear suck. That was a nice show to play to the crowd. I have a question for you about that. Who is it that goes to this event? I need to have that conversation with you because I think it has to be miserable. But we'll talk about that.

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772-774-5-254. Matt, one of the things that fascinates me is how many jerseys must be backstage. They have to have a jersey for every team for every player. Interesting, you say that. I've thought about that for years. I've always thought I'd love to get

the jersey that they don't use of a player. So I'd love to have like a Patrick Mahomes-Barr's jersey because we considered picking him, passed him over, and then he went to Kansas City. That'd be a cool collectible. That's not how they do it. Yeah. I saw the video. Have you seen this video?

I haven't seen it yet. They have, you saw it. It was on social media yesterday. They have five jerseys of each team that are blank on the name. When the pick is in, you know how the thing will say pick is in and then there's a long delay? Yeah. The reason is a delay is they're making their jersey. They take that they see it, they get it, they give it, they have a press in the back,

and they have all the names, and they take it and quickly press the name onto the jersey. That's that little delay from when they say the pick is in and when they announce it. They quickly, it takes like 90 seconds, they make the jersey, and then they have it right there. So they're literally doing it backstage. Isn't that kind of interesting? It's kind of old school, but it's awesome that they do it that way. Yeah, I like it. And they have to have the name of every player in every team's font just in case.

Yeah. I remember the NFL COVID draft, Jedrick Wilson, here in Lexington. He got sent a hat of every single team. They do that with the hat. But with the jerseys, they do the thing. Yeah, I was thinking as we watch that, he has to do it so quickly. There's a lot of pressure. You got to get that straight, got to make sure the name's right.

But it's neat just how it just shows it's pressing it down. Press it's ready to go. All right. Why would anyone Shannon go to do that? and go to this thing. Okay? Let me explain what I... To party.

But you're just standing there in a parking lot. Okay, so when we watch it on TV, we get to see all the production, the guys talk about it, they show highlights. When they're just standing there, they don't show anything. It's just Roger Goodell comes out. He tries to be cool with his stupid bro hugs and all that. And then that's it. And then for 10 minutes, you're just standing there.

Do you think that would be fun? Like, would you want to go to the NFL draft? I would not go to the NFL draft. I didn't go when it was in Nashville. But I'm with you on this. It's always fascinating me. These people, they dress up in, like, the Baltimore Ravens gear and everything. And then they announce the Ravens draft Mario Maitland.

And they go crazy, and they have no idea who they just drafted. And it's not just people like from Wisconsin. These people from all over the world coming from this. There were 200,000 people there. Massive crowd. I don't get it. I don't get. And I especially don't get the people.

that are going like tonight and the next time because I know you don't know who those people are like why are you going I'm your Huckleberry I had a group we considered going this year when the Titans got the number one pick and if not for Romeo and Juliet I might have been there last night so if you had gone what would you have done partied like Shannon said you can party here but it's the draft my team's got the number one pick I don't mind like you know like standing around I don't mind standing around hanging out I see they pick Cam Ward then what are you doing the rest of the time? Keep partying.

Boo, other picks. Hang out with people. Check out the scene in Green Bay. So you would go. Yeah, actually, we considered it. We had about four of us that we're going to go. See, I would go to the NBA draft because you're sitting down. Yes.

You're indoors. Yes. Feels like you can see everything. But I looked at that big mass of humanity last night, Shannon, and I was thinking, that just looks awful to me. That basically doubled the population of Green Bay. That's crazy. Yeah.

I think Green Bay is like 100,000. You say 200,000. was there, so I can't imagine. They probably didn't have enough hotel rooms for everybody. Of course not. All the backyards, like where we went to Telgate, that was pretty cool. I like seeing the scene around there of people doing what they would do for a normal Packers game.

Yeah, so when I went up there, when we went to that game, then when I did the show for ESPN, there's a house that's right there next to the stadium that ESPN Milwaukee owns. That would go there. You could sit in the yard and watch. I would go there, but I don't think I would go stand in that park. I'm kind of with you. I would enjoy being at that house and just being apart. of it, but man, they kept showing those drone shots of that massive crowd of people.

That was unbelievable. I'd really just go to Boom on team, probably being a Titans fan. I also like that they will find in the lot, it'll be like the Arizona Cardinals will be on the clock, and there'll be a camera with like six Arizona people, and they're just looking at the camera and they're going, and then you go, all right, did they go get those people and ask them to come here? Where did they find them? Because they're always at the front, which means I think they bring the people up and they go stand here.

And I was thinking last night, what would be the team that would have the fewest people in that crowd? Oh, the Chargers. That's a good one. Remember when they had the Zoom draft? They couldn't even get people on Zoom. The 2020 year they had fans on that big. They had like the one Chargers woman. Remember, it's like they couldn't get more than four people.

Nobody wanted to admit it to be a fan. It's a very good point about the Chargers. I wonder, did they show fans for the Chargers? I think you have to hire local actors for teams like the Chargers. Especially in Green Bay. I was going to say the Cardinals would have the fewest fans, but I think you're right. Those are 1A and 1B. The Chargers, because the people that were Chargers fans, they moved.

So, like, if you live in San Diego, do you even still like them anymore? Maybe if the drafts in a fun city, but at Green Bay, those had to have been paid actors. Well, next year, you know where it is? Cleveland. Oh, is it really? So get excited. I did like the one guy. I think it was Travis Henry.

They were like, what do you think of being up here? And he was like, there's nothing to do. I'm ready to leave. Well, there you go. All right, we're going to talk about the future of how UK athletics is going to do it. And the phone. We'll be right back. KS.R.

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Come on out and have lunch. see us this weekend. We, you know, going to have all, we'll have the draft on all weekend, all the various NBA games. If you, your family's in town,

are there events in Lexington this weekend? Got the, I think, Avid brothers are at Rupp tonight? All the Avid brothers, yeah. Is Cheryl Crow with them? Because I saw Cheryl Crow's tour bus go through Lexington this morning. Oh, really?

Scoop or Scuttlebutt. Do what? Legends opening night. Legends this weekend. A lot of stuff. You could come to the bar before or after. any of those things. One person writes, Matt, if you were in Europe and you saw the NFL draft was there, I think you would go to be part of the atmosphere, so why wouldn't you do it in

America? Okay, that's a fair point, but at the same time, I watch the draft and I don't think it feels like good atmosphere. Like, the reason I wanted to go to the darts and the soccer was it looks like crazy atmosphere. To me, except for when the Packers were picking, it didn't look like a great atmosphere. It looked like people just standing around. I think it would be something fun to maybe do for 30 minutes, an hour? And then, okay. That's fair. Let's quickly take a call.

Who's up first? Let's go to Matthew. Matthew, go ahead, Matthew. Good morning, gentlemen. First time, long time. Who are? What's up? First, I'd like to make a statement and say,

you're welcome to the BBN. I work at Tyson Foods in Clinton County, Kentucky, so I would like to imagine that part of my contributions is to saving the university $33 million. Yes, well, thank you to Arkansas for doing that. What's your second thing? I'd like to take a point from yesterday's show about the NIL.

It might be a unpopular opinion, but I like to imagine about 75% of Kentucky fans are Kentucky fans, primarily because of the basketball team. Yes. And I believe that when it comes to NIL contributions, that they should divvy out and feed the program that has kept your school in relevancy. year in and year out. Here's the problem with giving all the money to basketball, which I did have a lot of people write me yesterday and say,

we should give 50% or 75% to basketball. Here's the problem. As much as Kentucky is a school where basketball has historically been not only better, but the focus of the fan base, guess where our money comes from, sir? Guess what funds the budget? Football. Yep.

So, I mean, football is what gets the revenue. We are one of only like four. basketball schools in the country where basketball even makes a profit. But even at this school where basketball makes a profit, football makes a much larger profit. So if you just abandon the thing that makes a profit, guess what's going to happen? Your profit's going to go down. And then once that profit goes down, it's going to be harder for you to pay that NIL money. And so there's a snowball effect.

So if you just abandon football and like say, well, we just won't even try to be competitive, people will stop going to the games and then you have a severe revenue problem. Well, sir, I understand that, and I'm not saying to take away and just give all the money to basketball. I was saying take care of the program that keeps you a national relevancy and then focus on the rest. I get that, you know, the football program does give us more money, but I don't want to go back to the Gillespie years whenever, you know, we're clearly not doing that.

Apparently we're spending more on NIL than any of the. other basketball program. So I appreciate the call. I don't think that I don't think that's going to be a worry. All right. So let's talk about what happened yesterday with UK. Because this this is very complicated and I will admit I can't say I have 100% grasp on it, but I think I have a decent grasp. So what Kentucky has done basically is they have moved UK athletics, the entity of UK athletics, into a private holding company. It is basically now a private LLC. It is still run by and reports to the university. But instead of UK athletics being basically like the UK School of Science,

it is now a holding company outside of the university that the university owns, but is not a part of the university. They have this same model already for UK healthcare when it comes to hospitals. They bought a couple of hospitals in eastern Kentucky, and they buy land, et cetera. So UK athletics for all intents and purposes is now a private LLC holding company, private though, but it's still owned by the university. Mitch Barnhart, Mark Pope, Mark Stoops, they are now employees of this LLC. They are not employees going forward of the university as a whole. Now, one of the red flags for me when I heard this was, you know, there are laws about disclosure, right?

And like when you're a public university, you have to put out salaries and all that. UK, I had a conversation with someone at UK that kind of try to understand this. They say UK is still going to follow all those rules, even though you could make an argument in an LLC. They wouldn't have to. They are. That's good. Yeah. So we'll still know, you know, whatever, what the coaches make, et cetera.

when the players are getting rev share they will now get it from this private or from this LLC not from the university so why did UK do this this is just my take I think there's like three things first of all when you want to build property if you want to build a new thing on campus or you want to go buy houses around campus to tear them down to put dorms right you have to go through the state legislature. And it is a long process. It is a very difficult process. Now the university believes they don't have to do that. They can take this LLC and make decisions like a business, right? They can go buy a piece of property in Lexington to create a new gymnastics facility or whatever. And they can do it with a lot of the red tape of if they were with the university.

Second, and no one at the university told me this, but this is how I read it. If it ends up being the case that we start treating these athletes as employees, which I do think is going to happen one day, be a lot better for them to be private employees than to be university employees. Because when you're university employees, you have due process rights, you have all of this stuff that comes into play. A private employee, it's a different set of things. I think if the UK didn't tell me this, it's just me,

the idea that one day these athletes might be employees is a big driver of this. You'd rather have them be employees of a private company than all the things that come with being a state employee. Does that make sense? Yes. The other thing is, it's a public-private partnership, which means they can reach deals with people and not have to go through all the board of trustees,

you know, go through all the processes you have to do make a business deal. You can actually be nimble to use a business term. You can move quickly. Now, the question becomes, who runs this new thing? And this is where I think UK is making a very brilliant decision. The athletic departments, if we're all being real now, are business entities. Yeah, they are. Okay.

They are not just good old boys hiring the coach and saying go team. They are running multi, multi-million dollar businesses. Yes. They have to pay coaches. They have to raise revenue, ticket prices, endorsements, all of this stuff, none of which really has anything to do with athletics. They are businesses. And all of these schools have been using administrators from sports to try to run what amounts to $100 million businesses. UK, in my opinion, is facing a reality of these are businesses.

Why don't we get some business people in here to run it, right? No offense to Mitch Barnhart. He's great at what he does. But Mitch Barnhart is not the CEO of a business. But now running UK athletics is a business. So they're going to have this group of people, a couple of which will probably have sports backgrounds, but honestly, most of which will have business backgrounds. You're going to start to see people in the Lexington community,

who have been successful business people, they will now help make the decisions about the business. And unlike now, where a lot of these boosters have already been doing this, now we'll know who they are, and their decisions, they'll be like some public accountability

for what they do. I actually think it's a great idea. You know, in my opinion, for universities and for governments, public-private partnerships are the way to go. I used to be a really big government guy. And a lot of times, conservatives are big private guys.

As I get older, I actually think a combination is better. When you have a public, when you have the state, a public entity, they think, in theory, about the greater good. And the private part makes money.

And when you combine those, you can actually get a lot done. So think about the dorms over here at UK. Remember, the dorms at UK, I don't know if some of you all went to UK. They stunk when a lot of us went to this. Very outdated.

UK made a decision. The University of Kentucky does not inherently know how to run a dorm. Let's go get private companies that do know how to run housing. And let's get a partnership where they make the housing and we run it. And I think most people will tell you one of the best things at UK now is their dorms. Yes. Would you agree with that? Oh, absolutely.

That's the example of a public-private private private. You take two entities, the state, in trying to house people, and then the private in terms of people who build these, combine them, and it actually works. And I think, Ryan, that's what they now see for UK athletics. Let's take the athletic people, let's have a business focus for this new era, and let's combine it. Now, will there be problems? I'm sure they will. At some point, you'll probably hear me whine about something they do. but as far as a setup for the future, I actually think it's really smart, and I'm going to bet you within the next six months, we're going to see a bunch of other universities copy this model.

To Mitch Barnhart and Eli Capiluto's credit, I've been on those guys for many years, for being behind the times, not being forward thinking. This is the most forward thinking I've seen. And just, and I'll finish with this. Duke does this, all right? Northwestern does it. this. Vandy does this. They were able to do it because they are private schools. If you go to Duke, Duke Athletics is a private LLC outside of the university. It's just no public schools ever done it before. We're just going to be the first public school to do it. You answer a lot of questions I had. I didn't realize we were one of the first public schools to do it because it seems like we are the first to do it. It still doesn't seem like it's a platform that all the other public schools are going to try to follow them, mimic and follow now?

I think a lot of public schools didn't want to do it because they've held themselves under this notion of our mission is academics. And that's true. But come on. In 2025, when you're raising the revenue these things are, we got to stop acting like this is not a business. And I think UK is becoming the first university to recognize this is a business. And we need to run it like a business instead of trying to fix a business and kind of throw it into only a university where a lot of the things we do for

science teachers, they don't make sense to do for athletic department employees, and I think that's where we are. You know about Mitch and Eli, forever they've been reaction guys. I mean, slow to NIL. It felt like Mitch was a hostage there at the beginning even talking about NIL.

I mean, he was late to get beer. He wanted to see it worked everywhere else. He's always wanted to see how it works in other schools, and then we'll get to it after taking all in the info. I was surprised that he was the first to step out and do this. And I think it's a great move and a great sign for Mitch that he's not going to say changing, but that he was willing to try something no one else had done yet without sitting back and waiting to see. I spoke with a couple people. I had heard something was coming. They asked

to talk to me right before it got released. And I sat there and I put my lawyer hat on. Okay, I peppered them with every question I would ask if I was putting them under oath in a court a law about this. And to be honest with you, they answered everyone with things that kind of made sense to me. And I came away not really seeing the downside. The only downside to me could be the public release of information. Could they hide everything? And they said to me, we are going to release everything just as we would before.

If they do that, then I don't see what the downside is. I really don't, because it makes sense to me. Yeah, you answered the other question I had about, I thought Mitch Barnett would just be the czar of all this. So Mitch, the way it works is this board will make recommendations to Mitch who still is accountable to the board of trustees. Gotcha. So it's almost like, hey, we need to no longer think that Mitch is like, you know,

Mark Zuckerberg running the company himself. He needs business people to kind of help tell him what they do. Which is smart, which he should do. Which to me is actually pretty small. Hey, BBN spring is sprung, and that means you're getting outside more. Whether you're doing yard work or staying active by biking or riding, you could have an injury. And if you do, court physical therapist is there for you. They're help to prevent injuries from happening.

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No, because our problem is not money right now. It's management. What's going to happen is the Louisville's of the world are going to run out of money here pretty soon, because their TV deals are not as big as the Big Ten in the SEC. So look at the draft last night. 26 of the 32 players picked in the first round were from the SEC or Big Ten. Really?

26 of the 32. There were 13 from the SEC, 13 from the Big Ten, and then the next highest conference was the ACC with two. So if you're an ACC or Big 12 team and you want to compete, it's going to be hard. Yeah. And I think that's where you're going to start to see some of these organizations. looking for private equity money. Actually, during the break, does this start going to effect immediately? I think the board meeting is today, and then when they'll decide today when it goes into effect.

But I think it's going to go into effect quick. It's crazy. I'm not saying out of nowhere, but I don't think that news was very expected yesterday. They just dropped that to be such a major change. I got a text message in the morning and said, can you talk at 3 o'clock? And I did. And then all of a sudden I was like, oh, I didn't know any of that was happening. Completely changing the landscape right there.

That's exactly right. Who's up next? Hunter. What's up Hunter? How they're going? We're actually driving back from Green Bay. Okay, so you went to the draft. Was it worth it?

So we use the drafts. We have a seven-year-old. We use the draft in like a small vacation. So where they have the draft in other areas with all the stadiums. So we went to Kansas City. We did Nashville. We've done Green Bay. And I'm a huge Packers fan.

But the actual drafts, we didn't sit in the theater. You could sit in the overflow in Lambo and watch it on the jumbo. Okay. So we sat in Lambo, which is a Packers fan, was super cool to sit in Lambo and watch it. There's a lot of stuff that happens around noon. So there's a lot of businesses and food and all those things like that. They have like NFL play there. So my son got to play like a black football game.

Okay. Well, I understand. That stuff makes more sense then. Yeah, I can get that. So all the pre-stuff is fun. There's like Hall of Fame museums and they have like photo ops and you can try on. Like, you know, like locker rooms they have set up, and they have a whole thing around, like, kids.

Now, the actual draft, we didn't even try the theater. That was nuts. We're not doing that. But we use it as a vacation, so we're heading back. Okay, well, that makes sense. Actually, you know what, and I appreciate the call. I could see doing that, using it as a way to go to a city. Like, we do the NCAA tournament.

We go to a city that we would not otherwise go to, and then, like, Milwaukee, you wouldn't otherwise go to Milwaukee. We went there and had a good time. I saw on the drone shot, there were people in Lambo. I didn't know what that was about. But now I understand it's an overflow city. That may be a better place to go. You kids can play on Lambo field or whatever.

You know, do some watch it on the Drumbo Tron. That may be a better place to watch it than way in the back of that massive crowd. Can I mention something to you? Please. A Kentucky restaurant was named one of the 10 best fried chicken holes in the wall in the country. Yeah. Okay. So the name, I guess the category was fried chicken holes in the wall.

So it can't be a place like, I don't know. I don't know how they define that. But you know what all. Everybody knows what the hall is. All right. I bet you no one in here has ever heard of this place, which by definition, Hall of the Wall. Joe's Drive-in in Isam, Kentucky in Letcher County.

Oh, my. The article said, greasy fried chicken off the side of the road that will make you melt and stay in Lechard County and eat another meal. And I didn't even know there was a place called Isom, Kentucky. Did you? No. I'd never heard of Isom, Kentucky. Joe's drive-in in Lechard County. So we're going, right?

I feel like we've got to check this out. We've got to want it. Got to get there. You got to get there. It sounds awesome. but if we're in the area, we're going to ICE. And if you, 772-774-5-25-454 on the text machine, if you've been there, let me know if it's what they say it is.

Top 10 in the country run. It's worth going to make the trip then it sounds like. Weekend getaway. I'm in. Hillbilly days this weekend, too. Cash wrestling. Just saying. We'll take a break.

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