KSR - 2025-05-09- KSR - Hour 1

Episode Date: May 9, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter.
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Starting point is 00:02:51 and it's a little bit chilly, but a packed house. Look at everybody here at Owensboro. What a great, great turnout this morning in May. You can give a shout to Clark's Pump and Shop, phone line 859-280-2-8027. A Vision Auto Glass text machine is 772-724 in this edition sponsored by the T.J. Smith, Law, we called T.J. I'll Make-May. Ryan, we, I was just thinking when we pulled up here, I was with Mario, and I said, we haven't really in the last year or so been out in the state as much as we usually are. And I said, what a great place to go is Owensboro where he's always got a great crowd. And look at this group this morning, 55 degrees out here. sitting and enjoying it. Yeah, it kind of feels like it's November. It's a little chilly out here today,
Starting point is 00:03:35 but it's been a minute since we've been in Owensboro. We used to come regular, pretty regularly, but it's been a minute. This is your stomping ground here in Owensboro. Ryan went to Kentucky Wesley in college. K-Dub. That's right, K-dub. Drew, you know, over the years, we've been here a lot for various things. You know, you got the barbecue festival is this weekend. Is that right? You got a lot of country music history, NASCAR history here in Owensboro. I was telling Marius we drove in, Rex Chapman from here, and he said, really? We drove by French Lick where Larry Byrd, by the exit for French Lick, a lot of history up this way.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Yeah, it's not my hometown, but not too far away, so I have a lot of fond memories here. Like Ryan, and maybe even you, I didn't necessarily dress for this morning's weather. I had to borrow a coat from Dr. Skaggs over here, but it's a great crowd. Great to be here in Owensboro. I forgot, I didn't think, I didn't know this would be outside, so I would have packed some different clothes. These are Arizona clothes, not exactly the same thing. And I didn't feel like I could pull out the suede jacket, or maybe I should during one of the breaks and just wear that when we're doing it.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Well, we are at Kentucky Skins Cancer Center. And I have to tell you, I didn't really know what this building would be when I got here, but it's much nicer than I would have even imagined here, where Kentucky Skin Cancer Center, they do check on to see if you have any potential dermatological issues, but you could also get facials. It's also a wellness place. I mean, this is really, really nice here in Owensboro, and you have already gotten a facial this morning, right? You look younger than I can remember in a long time.
Starting point is 00:05:09 I know all of you keep saying I'm glowing, and I feel like I am glowing. It was wonderful. Crystal gave me my facial. It was wonderful. My first I've ever had, and I'm going to get more and more and more. You're glowing. I'm glowing a little bit there. That's good.
Starting point is 00:05:22 I'm glad. Well, you know, we, when we were in Arizona, there was a spa there that did. facials. And I have to tell you, I walked in the spa at the resort in Arizona. I think this one is just as nice. And you can also get screened for skin cancer issues, etc. Billy had the doctor on. This is run by folks who went to UK, and we thank you all very much. They call themselves the chick fillet of dermatology, which I don't know exactly what that means, but it means it's probably efficient and well-run. Closed on Sundays. Closed on Sunday. The Lord does not want a facial on Sunday. I also got a facial. I have to say, that might have been the best nap I've had in years.
Starting point is 00:06:01 I had to get up at 5 a.m. to be here. And the moment she hit that calming music and put the towel on me, it was night night. I'm not even entirely sure I know what happened, but it was an awesome experience. Well, let me first of all thank Mario. He picked me up at the airport at 11 o'clock last night in Cincinnati, Ohio. And we drove through the night to get here,
Starting point is 00:06:21 drove down to Louisville, and then through Southern Indiana. We were in the middle of Southern Indiana, which if you've made that drive from Louisville to St. Louis on 64 before you get off, that is a really dark, desolate area. And then when you turn off the interstate before you get to the Owensboro gambling facility, that is a really dark area on that drive. And Mario just looked at me and goes, where are you taking me during all this? And I could see why.
Starting point is 00:06:52 I'd forgotten, you know, normally we make that drive in daytime, but there is nothing between Louisville and Owensboro. A lot of desolate space. Yeah, once you pass cordon, there is nothing. Even the exits don't have anything there. So you better make sure you got enough gas to get all the way to Ferdin and Dale Santa Claus exit. And we barely did. And that's the other things.
Starting point is 00:07:12 There's nowhere to stop. Nope. So we pulled into the hotel there next to, I guess, the Texas Roadhouse. And we were on fumes. But we got here and glad to be here this morning after being in Arizona the other day. Ryan, there's a ton of stuff to go into, but probably the biggest news, again, Kentucky and the world waits till right after the show ends to break news. The new pope was picked right after the show. First American Pope of all time.
Starting point is 00:07:41 A couple things I found interesting about it. He's from Chicago. The Cubs claimed him as a fan. And then his brother went on TV and said, uh-uh. He's not going to say it, but he's actually a White Sox fan. the Cubs need to take it back. So the Cubs took an L yesterday. And then he went to Villanova.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Like, he just went to Villanova where he's, they showed his yearbook. First of all, people in the 70s looked a lot older when they were in college. He looked 45 in his yearbook. But his name was just Bob. So Bob from Villanova is the new pope. I find that really funny. Just Bob, who eating Chicago pizza in Villanova is your newest pope. That was my biggest takeaway.
Starting point is 00:08:19 On the show earlier this week, we're reading the candidates and it's Pizza Bala and Pietro. And we just end up with Bob. Bob. Oh, Bob from the South side. It's weird. They were interviewing his brother. He just seemed like a normal guy. And I know at the end of the day, the Pope is just a human being.
Starting point is 00:08:33 But there's something about just his brother sitting there in the background with a Walter Payton shirt. Just being like, yeah, Bob, you know, we didn't think he was going to be Pope. We just thought he was going to be Bob. He was in Florida when he did that interview. Yeah, he's just hanging out. I'm sorry. I got tea time at 3.30. I got to go.
Starting point is 00:08:52 It's nuts. I'm glad to hear him say he's a white sock fan because there's no way a bunch of cardinals would have hired a cub fan to be Pope. Oh, goodness. You waited for that one, did you? Thank you. Thank you very much. I'll be here all day. You know, it's funny, I could see your brain spinning the whole time I was talking.
Starting point is 00:09:08 I think you're going to make some inappropriate joke, and it was just stupid. But I guess the crowd seemed to like it, so there you go. But Shanoa Sanders also caught a lot of strays yesterday. If you're on Twitter, lots of memes. It took two days to pick a pope, three days to draft. Sanders, a lot of stuff like that. That's also a pretty long. I'm not encouraging it, but there was a lot of it.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Yeah, well, I will say, I watched on my phone. I watched the whole thing happen. And I'm not Catholic, so, you know, it doesn't have the religious significance. But I actually thought it was a really kind of powerful thing. All those people stand in there, and then he comes out, he's clearly overcome with emotion. You know, they go into that conclave. We've watched the show, so we know exactly that happened. We're pros.
Starting point is 00:09:53 probably he wasn't even one of the top 10 choices on the board he's like rich strike coming from behind at 80 to 1 and he gets it that had to be like a crazy overpowering moment and i thought it was really neat watching all those people you know crying just sitting there uh standing there on the crowd i thought it was really neat it is kind of powerful when you see they interview the people that are there in st peter's basilica and there's in the square in the vatican and they're just bawling because they just want to feel a part of what's going on election of a new pope watch the smoke come out of the chimney, so it is kind of an amazing. I saw the smoke. That felt like just regular smoke. I feel like if they're going to do it, they got to have better smoke. It felt like literally they may
Starting point is 00:10:31 have just had a fireplace on. I was expecting a huge plume of smoke. That really hasn't how they do it. And I wondered like when he walks out for the Grand Reville, does anyone at that point know who he is just so you're cheering? So you're cheering. You're like, I don't know who that is. Is that Bob? That pizza balla? And they were like, hey, wait a minute. That's Bob. We were in a frat together. in Villanova. How did he end up there? Well, it was neat to watch. I don't remember there ever being this much interest in one before, do you? I mean, in terms of like people talking about, it's got to be because of the movie. Because of the movie, the popularity of the movie. It's got it recycled again. Now it's number one on Netflix or whatever the streaming service it's on.
Starting point is 00:11:11 So it is kind of. But clearly somebody knew because I don't know if you saw, you know, you could gamble on it. There was somebody that bet $15,000 on him and ended up winning like $175,000 on him being picked. So I feel like they had a secret. There was some insider trading. I need Conclave 2 to investigate this. Like, is someone really on the inside on their phone, stepping into a room and betting?
Starting point is 00:11:36 Or are they sending out? Send a little bird out with a message. One. A significant amount of money. So congrats. And I know I saw Tony Vanetti and a couple of Catholic people write how powerful it was to them. So I hope they enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Now, at the same time, it got overshadowed a little bit, because it's not quite as important. there was a decision that's not official, but it's kind of official coming that I think is huge for UK football. Some of the best, UK football has not had good news in the last three or four years, or at least two or three years. I actually thought this was good news. The playoff committee has decided to probably go to 16 teams, not next year, but the year after. So 25, 26. But the reason I think it's really good news for Kentucky is how they're going to pick them.
Starting point is 00:12:26 They're going to be at least four SEC teams that are guaranteed a spot. Still, that's hard for Kentucky probably to make. But each conference has decided that when the championship game occurs with one versus two, the team that comes in third in the SEC will play the team that comes in sixth that weekend. The team that comes in fourth will play in the team that comes in fifth. and there's essentially a play-in game for now for the playoffs. So if you are in the top six in the SEC, you can have a chance at the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:12:59 So you don't just have to come in the top four, you can come in the top six. And even if you lost that game, you could still get in as a wild card. But, you know, Ryan, we've talked over the years. Would Kentucky ever make the playoff in our lifetime? And the answer for me has generally been no. When they expanded it, I thought,
Starting point is 00:13:17 well, in a perfect work. maybe, but you're still looking at having to go nine and three or something like that. We've done that before, but sixth place, I've gone back through the years. Kentucky would have made the playoff that Josh Allen, Benny Snell year. We would have been in that play in game for the playoff that year. So I do feel like this is big news. I do think there's a year where you have 10 teams or 12, you know, in a 10 or 12 year period where Kentucky could find themselves at least one.
Starting point is 00:13:49 in that spot. I'm with you. For the first time ever, I think I feel like there's a possibility Kentucky could make the football playoffs. Not this year to be clear. I don't think it's happening this year. But I do think there is a year. You mentioned that year they won 10 games. There's about a couple seasons where they were good enough and maybe they win a game here. Yes,
Starting point is 00:14:06 they're in the conversation. And now they've expanded the playoffs. It's absolutely a possibility they get one of those good years that can make the playoffs. I mean, there are eight conference games. There have been years where going five and three in conference could have, if you won the Highbreaker made you six.
Starting point is 00:14:21 And, you know, again, I don't think that's likely, but I do think, Drew, for the first time, depending on how long we live. We might see a year that we're in that playing game to get to play for a playoff. Yeah, I don't think we were ever going to get in with the current format. So anything that expands our opportunities, especially now when the postseason football, if you're not really in contention, there's just more opt-outs. It doesn't feel as meaningful as it used to, unless you're in like a citrus bowl, which we were lucky to have a few years ago.
Starting point is 00:14:50 But anything to get us some extra football that matters with Kentucky, I think that would be awesome. I think it's great news. Now, are you just overall put Kentucky out of it? Do you like going to 16? I mean, now you're going to make it to where the big programs really got to screw up to not make the 16. Do you think it makes the regular season less valuable?
Starting point is 00:15:09 I don't. I mean, we kind of like tournaments. We like season-ending tournaments. And, you know, by expanding it, we just get more opportunity to have good games. So I'm all for it. Absolutely. I mean, I thought last year, even though the playoff games weren't very good, it was exciting. And people who said the regular season would be devalued.
Starting point is 00:15:27 I didn't feel like it was. It had highest ratings of all time. I mean, I just think we're a culture that likes tournaments, so why not make as big a tournament as you can? I mean, last year you cared about Indiana regular season games, whereas you would not have otherwise, and that was because of the expanded playoffs. Yeah, I loved it last year. I mean, there were a few early blowouts that weren't that entertaining. but just even having a Cinderella with the opportunity like in Indiana.
Starting point is 00:15:50 I really think it adds to it after we had however many years it was, Alabama and Clemson and Georgia, opening the field at least give some teams a chance to dream. Yeah, I totally agree with you. Now, Shannon's going to join us in a minute. He is getting his facial right now. It's so good. I asked Mario if he wanted one.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Mario's like, no, I don't want that. You all got to talk him into it. Mario needs a facial. He's never, we had to get, we had to stay up late on. See the doctor? He's going to end up. There it is. We'll take a break.
Starting point is 00:16:21 We'll be right back here at the Kentucky Skin Care Center. It's KSR. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending. Opinions are flying. And nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in.
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Starting point is 00:20:16 Listen to Hurtle with Emily Abadi on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHart Women's Sports. Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio here live. I just learned news from my fellow horse owner here of simply joking that they're going to run in the Acorn State. at Belmont. That's good to see. We need to get the horse back. It's confidence, Drew.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Need to get it back up after that Oaks performance. You don't want it to sit around and feel sorry for itself. Yeah, I think you're on the plane when they got us all together and we voted last night by phone to make sure to keep it going. I'll log to vote for you that we're in. Sorry, we missed you on that one. Sorry, I missed that. We're very confident in the next steps. Very cool to see all the Kentucky shirts out here. This is honestly why the Kentucky fan base is so great. It is May. It is cold. And it is a Friday. And look, and All of you guys out here in blue shirts, see? I mean, seriously, this isn't a, you know, there is no other fan base,
Starting point is 00:21:19 and there is definitely no other radio show that would get a crowd like this. Thank you very much, the Kentucky Skin Care Center for bringing us here. Also, I said this on social media, but signed to do another year at ESPN with Myron Metcalf on Sunday mornings, which I'm excited about. Another year of Sunday mornings of not having the Sunday morning off, but I'm looking forward to it. Mario and I drove yesterday. When we got in a car in Cincinnati,
Starting point is 00:21:47 Meyer Metcalf was on the radio, and when we got out, he was still on the radio, and he was still talking about Steph Curry, and he was still talking about Draymond Green, and I thought, man, when does that, that do works more than I do on this stuff. Maybe you'll have to bring him back for a Merry Monday. I know everyone enjoyed them on these airwaves last summer, too.
Starting point is 00:22:04 He became a big part of the KSR group last summer. 859-280-2287. couple open lines. Give us a shout. Take your calls. They just announced this morning. It was broken. UNC.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Ryan has banned Bill Belichick's girlfriend from coming to practice anymore. So, first of all, what an amazing just story. Like, you know a story has reached out when, like, my mom is asking me about it. I mean, this is amazing that this is, it becomes such a big. thing. Now, banned from practice, that was, some people are disputing that, but Pablo Torre says for sure, they interviewed people, you know, from where they met, all this stuff, still dating, but banned from practice. What do you make about that part of the Belichick story? I mean, it's something that absolutely needed to be done. It had become a circus, and it was more about
Starting point is 00:23:01 her and him than him in the football program. So he's there to do a job. That's to coach the football program, not babysit her. He wasn't babysitting her. She was babysitting him. It sounded like she was babysitting him. It is interesting how the story is flipped. Because when it first started, you remember it was like, what is this old 71, 72 year old dude doing with this woman?
Starting point is 00:23:26 He's like manipulating her. And then it's completely flipped. Yeah. And now everybody thinks the opposite. They think the woman is almost manipulating him. Either way, she gets banned, which you're kind of like a dean of your. UK history. You know Oscar Cohns, but you've been around a long time. You may not want to say the name, but has there ever been in your UK lore a wife or girlfriend that the university kind of had to say,
Starting point is 00:23:53 hey, maybe we don't need you to be as around or as visible? Well, uh, that means the answer is yes. So I would like to know, you don't say who, but you can tell the story because I don't, I don't really know of one. I, I would, I would say. that there was a person we all know that maybe was a high profile actress that maybe was told to maybe not be around as much you know some things were going
Starting point is 00:24:19 on that maybe they weren't happy with well first of all way to keep it anonymous I think you narrowed that down to one person way to keep it anonymous like you didn't say her name what a bizarre what a bizarre way to tell that story
Starting point is 00:24:35 okay I think that was a distraction that maybe they won't But that wasn't at practice, was it? Definitely not at practice. Maybe in the dorm room after practice. It's getting worse. You know, you just turn your mind off. Ed Orgeron, Drew, at LSU, had his girlfriend,
Starting point is 00:25:03 and she was apparently coming to practice and, like, yelling at people at practice, kind of what got him fired. So I guess I understand it, but again, I just want to think about what it's like at North Carolina. Can you imagine having to go to a man and saying you cannot bring your girlfriend to practice anymore? I just can't imagine. Especially when she's already on all the emails, C-Ced on those. I just wonder at some point, he's obviously very lost in love right now. Good for him.
Starting point is 00:25:33 He's enjoying his relationship. But with all the criticism he's gotten from the CBS interview, and now she's banned from the facility. At any point, does he look in the mirror? And he's like, maybe I am a little caught up in this too much. Did you see, again, now, this, we're getting into, like, gossip. But you know what? The reality is, ma'am, gossip is actually fun sometimes, to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Apparently, Bill Belichick was doing a commercial. This is, again, this is according to the Pablo Tori stuff. He was doing a commercial that included having women in bikinis in the commercial. Now, let me just stop right there. How did he end up in that commercial? I can you imagine Mark Pope in a commercial with women in bikinis? I don't know how that happened. But anyways, it's a commercial with women in bikinis.
Starting point is 00:26:17 And the story is that Jordan, his girlfriend, got so jealous that Belichick might be distracted that she went and put a bikini on and then stood there for the rest of the time. Oh, poor Bill. That sounds terrible. First of all, I want to be in that commercial. No. But, I mean, it's crazy. Is it not?
Starting point is 00:26:40 It's very crazy. I'm going to keep up with North Carolina football. I already have more than I ever have before or ever will. I want to know every movement that Bill and that program makes moving forward, especially if she's banned from the building. Because, you know, just outside speculating here, I think that will only turn up her crazy a little bit if she's not allowed to be around. I think that's probably fair.
Starting point is 00:26:58 I think the emails are going to get weird. Now, on a current girlfriend, now married Colin Chandler, got made. He did. How about that? The picture of the wedding, they looked like a beautiful young couple. It was interesting to me they got married on a Thursday. In the morning. You don't hear a lot of people just have their wedding on a Thursday morning. But he is now married, and it continues a trend.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Ryan, we've seemed like we've had more married players on the team in the last few years than I remember going back in the day. I mean, you have to go way back. I think if you find some basketball, UK basketball players that were married during the season. going like in the 70s. There's been some football players, but it seems like it is kind of odd for a basketball player to get married,
Starting point is 00:27:42 why they still have eligibility left. You think that helps to be married? Keeps you from being distracted. Breakout year. I've watched you, Drew Franklin, change. You get laser-focused? You do get focused. I expect.
Starting point is 00:27:54 I already thought a big sophomore year was coming from him, but now he's just going straight home to his wife, probably early bedtimes. It's kind of like when Billy Gillespie was married to basketball. We were so excited about that. Billy Glesby should have been married because he was not.
Starting point is 00:28:11 He didn't certainly didn't act like he was married if he was. But I do, it'll be interesting to see, you know, he won't be living in the lodge. That's it, right? That's going to be different for, I think it would be funny if they made her move into the lodge, but they will not. So that's also different than most UK basketball players. I was trying to think of UK basketball players that didn't live in the lodge. Oscar Sheewe, again, going back to conversation, we have. had the other day of what of that weird two years.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Oscar Sheewe didn't live in the lodge the second year. And I don't know that I remember any player having done that besides him. Yeah, that one year they were redoing the lodge. The whole team had to live off campus. And I think that ended up being team turmoil that year. I mean, I think Oscar was everyone else was in the lodge and he lived somewhere else. Again, I think that was part of what contributed to some of the problems that year. We'll take a break.
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Starting point is 00:30:29 said, I'm all into the draft. I'm not one foot in, one foot out. I have the year of eligibility if it doesn't work out, but I'm trying to make it work out. People read that as, oh, no, maybe he's not coming back, which would completely change the outlook of the team, if that were the case. How did you read it? At first, just seeing that one sentence, I thought, oh, no, that doesn't sound great. But also in the same interview, he acknowledged that if he doesn't have a first round projection, he's probably going back. so it just sounds like he's making sure he's all in on the process and trying to even said,
Starting point is 00:31:02 I believe I'm first round, but it still sounds like if. I believe I'm first round. Yeah, if no one gives him that promise, I think he would be back. But, I mean, it shows how committed he is to trying to go. Yeah, I mean, I've seen a lot of people online, Ryan, panicking about that. Here's what I would say. If you're interviewing for a job, what's the one thing you don't want to say at the job interview? I'm not sure if I want this job or not, right?
Starting point is 00:31:26 Like, you don't want to say that. So this dude, if he's going to go through the NBA process, he has to say, I want to be in the NBA draft. No team is going to draft him when he's like, I don't know, maybe I'm going to go back to college. So to me, that's a statement that he has to make. I've been told by folks at UK, unless he knows he's a first round pick, he's back. Reason being, he will make more money here than he will make as a first. As a matter of fact, he probably would make more money here than he would if he was picked at the end of. the first round. But I think
Starting point is 00:31:59 if you're at the end of the first round, you still get a guarantee of three or four years, so he would probably enter in the draft. But if he's a second round pick, he'll make twice, maybe even triple the money he will make here as he would in college. So with that as in the pro, so I'm going to assume he's coming back, but I think he has to say that
Starting point is 00:32:16 if he wants to really be considered. He's got to say the right things, because maybe he does impress somebody, and maybe they will take him as a first round pick. So he's got to say the right things in these interviews. He has to. But I did see some of the conspiracy theorists are out there, Well, that's why Mark Pope went and got Aberdeen because they know Otega O'A is not coming back.
Starting point is 00:32:31 No, if we were to lose Oteg Owe, we'll go get somebody else. I mean, I think there's a really good chance. If O'Way were to leave, we're going to see some magical European fall out of the sky, which happens, by the way, all the time. Just magical Europeans fall out of the sky. But, no, I mean, if we were to lose him,
Starting point is 00:32:54 we'll go get somebody else. This roster is complete. assuming always there. If always not there, they're one player short, and I know they'll go find somebody, and the good thing about this NIL era is you can take good dudes who played pro basketball,
Starting point is 00:33:09 and they're an infant amount of dudes in Europe that played pro basketball. You can find one. Yeah, and I think the plan all along is for him to be back. If he gets a surprise guarantee and someone convinces him to stay, you can also still go shopping, and you will have a lot of money to spend
Starting point is 00:33:23 because they put a lot aside for him to come back, and if he were to not return, you could go out and get some, money really good. Well, that's another great point. Otega is going to be the highest pay player on this. I don't know his exact amount of money. I'm going to ballpark, and this is just a guess.
Starting point is 00:33:40 I'm not saying this. I have no idea exactly what. But let's just say it's a $3 million thing. That's where my mind would be on it. It's three, maybe three and a half. All these dudes that are left in the portal, you can get any of them with that amount. Get all of them. I mean, you can get any of them.
Starting point is 00:33:58 You couldn't get all of them. But, like, think about who's still in the portal. All right, R.J. Lewis, Jr., the kid from St. John's, still in the portal. PJ Haggerty, the nation's leading score last year, still in the portal. I think if, Shannon, if O.A. left, you could get any of those guys. And, you know, so there's still, I think, plenty of time if things. I still want a way back. I want him more than I want any of the rest of them.
Starting point is 00:34:22 But you could go find a report. Yeah, with that kind of money, you could get whoever you really want out there in the portal. I don't really see a scenario where he would go first round this year, but if he came back at Kentucky and had a really good season, I can see a scenario where he snuck into maybe the, you know, the last picks of the first round. And why would you want to He's not going to get picked for the first round until he shows he can consistently shoot three. Sure. I mean, that's ultimately, I think his athleticism, pretty good. He showed up, but he's, unless he's consistently shooting through, he's not going to get picked, and that's what he
Starting point is 00:34:50 has to show. But he ends up, let's say, in the second round this year, you're going to end up in the G League more than likely. And would you rather be in that situation or come back to Kentucky, compete for a national title, and make a lot of money? The money part is the crazy thing. Like for all of us that, you know, grew up thinking you couldn't even make a dollar, the idea that you could make more money in college, but that's going to keep happening. I mean, a lot of these dudes that are returning PJ Haggerty from Memphis, why is he coming back?
Starting point is 00:35:18 He's coming back because he can make more money in college than he can in the NBA. That would not have been the case. Yeah, when this started, we knew. it would change the fringe players like O-Way. You know, some of the Cal players left when they didn't need to because they just had to go get money, even if it was second round, you couldn't get paid in college. Think about some of the guys that would have come back.
Starting point is 00:35:35 He's a good example of what that type of player. You go back over the year. Think about some of the guys that would have come back. Like a dude like Jared Vanderbilt. Yes. Right? Like that's a guy, Dakari Johnson. That's a guy who would have come back.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Harrison Twins might have come back. Ashton Higgins. Perfect example. Those are the kind of guys that if this rule existed, before would have been here longer. Who's up first? John is up first. John, go ahead, John.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Swishing to office here. UK football, it looks like he looks at kind of building more so for the future than it is for next year. He's looking more so like it's going to be like a two in ten or four and eight season. I would assume he survived. Two and ten. Wait, hang on just a second. If he goes, I'd go in ten, if he goes two, if he's a big.
Starting point is 00:36:24 If he goes 2 and 10, it's over. There's no planning for the future if he goes 2 and 10. Those two sentences you just said do not go together. He's planning for the future and if he goes 2 and 10. If he goes 2 and 10, he will not be the coach here the next year. If he goes 4 and 8, I think it's still going to be hard for him to be the coach. But if he goes 2 and 10, it's over. Is 5 the magic number?
Starting point is 00:36:48 Does he have to get the 5 to keep his job? Yeah, I think so. I mean, I think he has to get to five, which, by the way, is not easy. I mean, finding the five wins, finding the five wins on the schedule is not easy. But to answer your question, sir, if he goes two and ten, he will not be the coach the next year. Well, in that case, I have a second question. Why is he going for a lot of players that are younger in the transfer portal and constructing his roster for players that would develop into good players,
Starting point is 00:37:19 but they are not good players currently? Because football is very different than basketball in the sense of you don't, Kentucky doesn't have the resources to go too deep with dudes they can pay a lot of money for. Kentucky has the resources to have a starting 22 that's good. But when you get into that second string, I mean, Alabama and Georgia, Drew, don't have the resources to have a deep second string. That's why these guys end up in all these other schools. We certainly don't. So when you see us get a kid, I appreciate the call, like the wide receiver from SMU, we're doing that because we don't, we're not going to be able to go get a star to be our fifth string wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Yeah, and I've seen people being critical of these last three or four guys they've added in the last week, but these are, he's just trying to fill out a roster. In the world of college football now, Bush Hamden even said this is one on Tom Leach. If guys aren't top three on the depth chart, they leave or you used to just have someone stuck there. They're on your third team, your practice squad. They could practice some of these additions. You just have to get anyone that's interested in coming and taking a spot without needing a lot of money or having high expectations.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Let's talk about to answer his question. Ryan, two and ten, done, right? There's no way he can survive two and ten. Three and nine, which means beating Toledo. Done? You're pushing. That means you're winless in the SEC. And lost to Louisville.
Starting point is 00:38:44 And lost to Louisville. That's, you're done. Yeah. All right. Six and six. you're fine. Yes. So what about four and eight?
Starting point is 00:38:54 That's tough too. Four and eight would be beat Toledo and then maybe beat Vandy, maybe Louisville, maybe four, you know, something like that. Does it depend on how you get those four? Yeah. I mean, if you lose a ton of close games. So there's a scenario to where you could win four, play like, you know, Florida really tough. There's a scenario where I would make the case that you could. could keep your job at four, but I don't know if our fan base...
Starting point is 00:39:22 They won't tolerate that, I don't think. I think our fan base is in a different world right now where they're like, you better go win something. That's just how I see it. Normally, I would say, I feel like I and the fan base are kind of in the same page on when it's time for a coach to go. I think a lot of fans wanted Cal gone one year before I did. I kind of wonder if that's going to happen again with Stoops,
Starting point is 00:39:50 where he might go four to eight or five and seven. And Drew, I'd say maybe we give him another chance, and there's a lot of fans who just say that. Yeah, and I think he's got to get to a bowl game. I mean, just what you just said about you got to beat Toledo and Vandy. That sounds like the era Stoops inherited from Joker, which is just barely one of those games. I know the schedule is extremely tough now.
Starting point is 00:40:11 In the 50-50 games, the Missouries and South Carolinas are in a much better spot, and so much of your success was beating those teams. But I think even a five-win team is going to be tough. The fan base is going to have a hard time. I would you think about that schedule. Start with Toledo. Everybody says Toledo's good. I got a feeling that we're going to end up winning that game by more than
Starting point is 00:40:30 people because we're just going to hear how good Toledo is and then we end up being. That second game, though, is Ole Miss at home. That's going to be the most important game for Mark Stoops in like six or eight years. Then the next game is like Eastern Michigan. Let's assume we win that. Then we go to South Carolina in the next one. All right. That two-game stretch, Shannon,
Starting point is 00:40:53 Ole Miss at home, South Carolina on the road. Win or lose, we better be competitive in those games. Yeah. Because if we're not, our fan base is going to be checked out. I genuinely think that. Like those two games, whether we win or lose, we have got to be competitive. We're also tired of losing to South Carolina. That was a game that we felt like,
Starting point is 00:41:15 and they did for years win that game. Now it's like we've fallen behind, and now South Carolina is getting us every year. Those are those pivotal games on the schedule that you have to win. Yeah, I think that old Miss game is like if I'm Mark Stoops, I'm spending my whole off season getting ready. And even though they won last year, I think it's going to be huge. Wayne's going to want that one real bad.
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Starting point is 00:47:33 Mayor Craig Greenberg just announced they are pulling the project and there will be no pickleball courts thanks to community outrage. Louisville how about that community rises up and they end up stopping the development that they didn't want power to the people I always wonder like does that ever really matter when people come out and voice their opinion or are they just wasting their time clearly in this case they work case it mattered they end up uh and thank goodness down with pickleball all right I'm just glad that you know they're listening to what the people actually have to say I think that there's something to be said for that you know I mean I'm biased towards Craig because he's my friend and I'm going to tell you
Starting point is 00:48:12 take up for him because I know where his heart is. But I will say this. You know, Pete, I've seen people say, well, he's flip-flop. I think it's good if, like, somebody makes a decision, and then people say we don't want it, and then they change their mind. Like, we shouldn't say that. When people flip-flop, that to me is you don't really have a position, you just kind of whatever. I think that's bad. But if you change your mind because people, you know, ultimately the mayor or the governor or president is supposed to do what the people want. If people don't want it, then that's the way it is. Too many times once a political figure gets in office, they do whatever they want.
Starting point is 00:48:46 They don't listen to the people. And I commend Craig Greenberg for listening to. So good for that. Did you hear the story about the woman in Kentucky, Ryan, whose child ordered $70,000 or $70,000 dumb, suckers off of Amazon, and she came home and there were 70,000 suckers on her porch that her kid accidentally ordered? Or didn't accidentally. The kid did it on purpose, but that she ended up with. Big story in Lexington yesterday.
Starting point is 00:49:17 I'm just so thankful. My son wasn't the one that ordered all those dumb, dumb suckers. A couple of things that surprised me on it. First of all, if you had told me how much would 70,000 suckers cost, I probably would have thought it was more than $4,000. I think she got a bargain, actually. Yeah. She bought in bulk.
Starting point is 00:49:32 I do wonder, does Amazon not see that order, Drew, and go, I don't know, maybe does this person want really 70,000? suckers? They probably thought she was a bank. Just the bank getting their quarterly order here. I did see Amazon and told her to hit cancel and it would be okay, but the driver had already put it on the porch and closed out the order and was like, well, they're on your porch now, too bad. How big is that box? So they just didn't get in front of it in time. Oh, they were stacked up. Yeah. It's a lot of boxes. So what's she going to do with them now? Halloween? I think they agreed to take it back.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Oh, they did agree to take it back. Not all of them, but like maybe three-fourths of it or something. Oh, they only take 50,000 of them back. The kid still wins. The kid still wins. Well, I didn't. The mom said, I need to have better security on my phone. You think? Why would you give your kid your phone to be good with?
Starting point is 00:50:22 I can't get my phone to work most of the time. I hold my face up there and I'm like, I'm here. Will you please open it? How in the world did the kid do that? Well, anytime we have electronics, we don't know what to do, your five-year-old can figure it out better than we can right now. They know how to do everything. 70,000 dumb, dumb suckers.
Starting point is 00:50:39 What a story. That's a great story. amazing. Who's up next? Brian is up next. Brian. Go ahead, Brian. Hey, guys. Did anybody see the British ladies that had just happened to have a vacation to Rome when the conclave met? No, no, I didn't. I mean, I'm sure there were a lot of people that just happened to be in Rome when that happened. They have a ton of visitors every week. Yeah, I was wondering if any of you all had a trip that coincidentally lined up with like some big historical event. That's a good question.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Well, I was in, last summer, I was in Madrid when Spain won the World Cup. I just happened to be in Madrid. And so I got to dance in the streets with the Spanish people all night. They had an amazing party. I mean, like, Madrid is the size of New York City. And people who've been to New York, imagine if the whole city just breaks into a party everywhere. And that's kind of what it was like in Madrid. So that was, that's probably the closest I've had, Drew.
Starting point is 00:51:43 You had something like that? I think about those women that went to Nashville for a bachelor party during the NFL draft. Yeah, they were not happy. I'm going to D.C. next weekend. I couldn't figure out why my room was three times, but it should be. But it's like the 50th anniversary of pride and I'm staying right in the middle of it. That's perfect for you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:57 It's not really why I'm going, but I guess I'll be part of that next weekend. If you see our man, Drew, where. I'll be around. Living is past line next week. You'll know why that is. 859-280-2287. We are here at the Kentucky Skin Cancer Center right off New Hartford Highway. We'll be right back.
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