KSR - 2025-05-29- KSR - Hour 2

Episode Date: May 29, 2025

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Starting point is 00:02:07 Welcome to Hour 2 of Kentucky Sports Radio, presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now, here's Matt Jones. Welcome back, hour number two, Kentucky Sports Radio here at the KS Bar and Grill. Come on out, have lunch, see us, and join what is a beautiful day. Tomorrow's a KSR golf scramble. It's asking anything Thursday. You know, they're predicting some rain, Drew. for those of you that are in the scramble, we're going.
Starting point is 00:02:32 And if there's any thunderstorm, we'll delay it until it goes away. But it's on because it should be, it's going to rain probably, but it should be weather that we can play in, hopefully. Hopefully. Yeah, I don't love the forecast. We've been very lucky most years. I mean, we've had some heat. We've had a rain day once.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Yeah, and we've had some very hot days. But overall, we've been pretty blessed with sunshine. Looks like it might be catching up to us tomorrow. That's all right, though. Just make yourself, you know, get yourself ready for rain gear. This is, you know, it'll make the course play a little soggy. Snuggles are fun, man. I enjoyed the K.S.R.G.S.R. Schwabbles are fun, man. I should be a level to playing field.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Should be a lot of fun. Now, one person writes, Matt, I was part of that Vietnam draft lottery. I was at U.K., we basically all watched it, and the people who got a low number went out and immediately got drunk at two keys. That's tough. Yeah, I mean, you know your life's completely changing. Go enjoy what you have left. of it there with your friends. They called it, Shannon,
Starting point is 00:03:29 the selection show. Yeah, that's the time. The one you don't want to watch it. Now, Barkley would commentate. He'd be like, all right,
Starting point is 00:03:39 June 3rd. Sorry. I can see Greg Gumboe hosting. Yeah, Greg Bumble, rest in peace. It would be, that would be, that would be sad.
Starting point is 00:03:47 That would be sad. It would be sad. I'm glad. I will say this. I've said this a lot. All of us. There's people on all sides of the political spectrum that complain about everything and there are a lot of things that
Starting point is 00:04:03 should be better i think we'd all agree but there is we should be thankful way better than it used to be yes it is better now it is better to be alive now than it has been to be alive at basically any point in human history and we are even with all of its faults in one of if not the best places to be during that time we should be thankful about that even when we complain as i do about the things that happened because it wasn't even that long ago you know world war two was like there are a lot of people alive that were in war war two like it was 1940s yeah look at this guy you know when the ron lemon could never yeah and lemon could never Yesterday I thought was a really good symbol, Drew, of why NIL has been so good for college basketball.
Starting point is 00:04:58 O.A. comes back to Kentucky. Pettiford comes back to Auburn, right? He's coming back. Yes. Condon comes back to Florida. Yaxel comes back to Michigan. None of that stuff happened. None of those guys come back in the old system. College basketball is older.
Starting point is 00:05:17 The quality of play is higher. some of those guys are coming back to the schools where they were where fans knew them I think it helps the NBA in the sense that like you know they get guys who are seasoned after the top 15 dudes NIL I think has caused a lot of problems for college football for a variety of reasons but I think and now we have three or four years to show this that for college basketball NIL has been almost a universal positive do you agree with that? Yeah, I said a lot of these guys would have left just hoping to get any kind of money. A lot of them knowing they would end up in Lithuania in a few months, knowing they're not going
Starting point is 00:05:57 to get drafted, but now they're coming back and it makes the sport better. I mean, look what it's done to Cal. I mean, Cal, everyone would leave Cal after a year, whether they're ready or not. Now he's got Carter Knox coming back, DJs in a third year. Without NIL, I mean, those guys leave. Carter Knox would stay in the draft if we didn't have NIL. It just makes the sport so much better. It's gotten older. And it's better for the kids. And if you look at the Final Four last year, a lot of players were retained and the similar with NIL money that could have gone the year before.
Starting point is 00:06:25 It's just made the teams better. Think about all these dudes that played for us that have floated around the world, playing for various teams, who could have come back and made a substantial amount of money here. So let's just go through with some of them. James Young. He went to the Red Claws, the main Red Clause from the UK. Marcus T. Yep.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Right. Dekari Johnson D'Carie would have been He's my I wish he had stayed Because he would have been on that team The following year with Eulis Murray They just didn't have any size with Scowl and Marcus Lee Okay those are those are three
Starting point is 00:06:59 Ashton Hagan Ashton Hagen's Another I think EJ Montgomery had a lot left He went straight to Lithuania when he went pro Yes Those guys If they come back They all of a sudden are in a position
Starting point is 00:07:14 To where they could have made a million and a half to $3 million that year, and then giving themselves a shot. Like, when you look at the NBA draft this year, go look at mock draft boards. What you'll see is the top 15 to 20 picks are mostly first years. I mean, that's going to, and it's probably always going to be like that. But then when you get from 20 to 60,
Starting point is 00:07:35 there's a lot of guys who are in their senior years, and there's a lot of guys who, after their freshman years, no chance they would have been drafted, right? No chance at all. So if we were picking all freshmen, these dudes, there's zero chance these guys end up on an NBA roster. I mean, Kobe Brea could get picked in the second round. Was he going to get picked after one year?
Starting point is 00:07:55 No, no chance. So I just think it is a really, really positive thing. And for the sport, and we were worried about all this chaos. And I think football should still be worried because there are problems. But for basketball, I think it's almost a universal positive. You mentioned, Teague. Think about the Nerling's year. He's the point guard instead of hero.
Starting point is 00:08:14 And you might even have a junior Doron Lamb. You know, he probably would have stuck around. Just think of all the guys that could have had an extra year and gotten better. You would have returned pieces from the national championship season and put them with Nerlands. You know, it might throw off commitments you get over time, but it'd be fun to have those guys play a lot more basketball here. And they would have made more money than they did in the league. And from the fan perspective, like, imagine a guy like Anthony Davis, you know he's so talented,
Starting point is 00:08:36 but if he decided to come back. But he's a bad example. He's going number one. He decided. But he's not coming back. I mean, like, those dudes are not. There's no system where those guys come back. But that next tier of guys.
Starting point is 00:08:50 The BJ Bostons of the world. Yeah. Another good example. I mean, he's a guy who could have found a second year. Second year, another option of playing. I was begging for sophomore Chris Livingston. He was so misused here. He was a big one.
Starting point is 00:09:05 He leaves after a bad year, gets a four-year deal with the bucks. I mean, he's not a start or anything, but he plays quality minutes. He would have been a great sophomore. So I do think it has been. you know, a pretty universal positive. Now, you and I, Drew, we have to talk about this case about the roofing guy. Yeah, it's not great. Okay, so the name of the roofing company, Shannon.
Starting point is 00:09:28 I have anxiety of us talking about. Yeah, roofing company on the radio. What are you talking about here? That's true. We've had a history of talking about things in the room. But everything I'm reading you here, I just want to be clear, everything's coming from the Harold leader. So, like, my name's Bennett.
Starting point is 00:09:44 I ain't in it. I am reading you, Shannon, Harold Leader. Okay, so get upset if you want it, my friend Janet Patton. She's the one that wrote this stuff. Can I read some of this? Please. The owner of Lexington Blue, the roofing company accused of defrauding homeowners and insurance company, ran his firm as a cult of personality, his employees say.
Starting point is 00:10:07 All right. Now, remember, he's originally in trouble. The AG's office is investigating them for saying, hey, I'm going to fix your roof, taking the money and then he doesn't fix the roof, right? This sentence is amazing. Brad Pagel encouraged employees to take psychedelic drugs, lectured them for hours about his metaphysical beliefs, and cheated them out of money, say several former workers.
Starting point is 00:10:33 He routinely berated them under the guise of encouragement and bombarded sales team leaders with hundreds of intimidating techs. Now, would you like to know some of them? of those texts. Please. Apparently, one of his employees made a post on Reddit that he didn't, he did not like that they made.
Starting point is 00:10:55 He then got on, allegedly, on text and texted, we've got to get him, find him a way to shut up, and then sent these crazy, intimidating, intimidating texts basically about what he was going to do to him if he didn't.
Starting point is 00:11:12 And they have the screenshots up. Yeah, I saw in the Herald Leader story, a former employee said this dude's like an absolute psychopath. I mean, just all the stuff he was doing, a lot of it you mentioned. And it's not like he took advantage of like five people or 20 people. It says there's hundreds of people that he took advantage of getting away with this for a long time. And then like you, the article, like it's a long article. And the article is about all the stuff that he did and all the things that he wrote, again, allegedly. And like this is just a dude here in Lexington that was doing a roofing company.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Again, we are careful about roofing companies. But it's absolutely wild. He started after 10 years Shannon calling himself the Reverend. Yeah, that's a definite cult leader. So I'm going to go back to the guy. Just before you say that, if I'm working in a – if I ever say to you guys, all right, start calling me the Reverend. That's the moment you need to say, Matt, it's been fun.
Starting point is 00:12:15 I think it's time for you to move on. We're not calling you the Reverend. All right, go ahead. So the guy had his employees take, you said psychedelics. He had roofers up on a roof on top of the house. Yeah, on psychedelics. Yeah. But what form of that sounds like a good idea?
Starting point is 00:12:35 We're going to get guys on top of a house that are on psychedelics. I did not pause too. I mean, this story is wild. It is one of the wilder stories that I've ever seen about someone in Lexington that did this. He also, his social media included multiple pictures of him as Neo from the Matrix. I didn't see that part. He would do motivational talks, one of which was shown to his employees, and here's how it started. This is Brad Pagel, aka.
Starting point is 00:13:11 and dad coming at you live in one tape rough rugged and raw i think i would have walked out of the office right there today's talk is going to be about getting rid of the negative the weak and the heavy the blank in your life that doesn't jive with where we're going to go if i said to you in a meeting this is mad jove riven a k a reverend i'm coming at you can't even say this to that laugh i'm coming at you in one tape rough rugged and raw pause would that have intimidated you all? Yeah let's all eat these gummies and get out there and
Starting point is 00:13:47 pick some roots here's some mushroom Shannon there's a ladder and some mushrooms get to work Shannon here's some mushroom let's go pull wire are you ready? I think that's how KSR ends the day that happens I'm out I'm just telling you this story on the hair leader
Starting point is 00:14:06 is a wild story and I don't think it's going to help this guy in his attorney general investigation. Do you? They might revoke his status as reverend for all this.
Starting point is 00:14:18 You know, with so many victims and being local, there's a decent chance that some people listening were fraughted by this guy. Maybe they can chime in and let us know what it was like.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Yes. Employees were told to watch the Wolf of Wall Street and then he would reenact the scene. Oh. Let's go roof. We're back.
Starting point is 00:14:38 It seemed like a lot of homework for a roofing job, you know? Like, I just want to go hammer some nails. Yeah, that's true. You don't sign up for all this when you go work in a rooping company. You're not like, all right, dude, stop. We don't need to watch the Matrix. I just have to put in the shingle. All right, who's next? Jason. Jason, go ahead, Jason.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Well, I don't think they have to worry about the mushrooms because heavily they weren't fixing any roofs anywhere. Yeah, they never got on a roof, so I guess it worked out. I got something, I don't know if you guys know or not, but I'm usually podcast listener. Yesterday, when you guys were talking about the offensive line coach, as you faded out to commercial, and you know, sometimes the commercials aren't the same and don't line up, you could early hear Ryan say, I bet Freddie Magher's not happy about it.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Yeah, he wasn't supposed to say that on the air, but it did co-through the air. He said Freddie. Well, Freddie didn't like Will Wolford. Freddie or Eric. Or Eric. He didn't like any Wolford. He didn't like Eric Wolford because he thought that Eric was not good about, like, he only cared about the starters.
Starting point is 00:15:48 He didn't develop the bench. And then it showed itself when he went to Alabama, and there was a huge drop-off in our players. But that was, Freddie was very, Freddie thought he used, we had good starters that year, Eric was here. But he thought he kind of worked him into the ground and then didn't develop the bench. And that really made Freddie mad. He thought sometimes at the end of the games, our guys were. were dead because he didn't do what an offensive line coach should do. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Well, Ryan's always entertaining, and I just thought, I didn't know if you always. Yeah, no, I mean, it's Ryan, right? Like, that's what's going to happen is that he's going to do that. But appreciate the call. It's a good reminder of these mics can be hot. Yeah, and get me a second to, like, turn off your mic before you start talking, thinking you're off the air. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Ryan is not going to, it's not going to do that. He immediately goes from Utah to a break. Okay. So the guy who went on Reddit, sorry, back to our reverend, the guy that went on Reddit and complained, he wrote to another employee, if that guy doesn't delete that post, he's going to end up in a van. Oh, down by the river. I mean, that's not good. No. And also, apparently afterwards, the guy who had made the comments would get anonymous texts that say, we found you.
Starting point is 00:17:12 you can't hide anymore. We are coming for you. That is creepy. It's like trying to start the mafia here with this roofing business? You're putting up roofs. Oh, yeah. Imagine that. You just sign up for a roofing job.
Starting point is 00:17:24 And next thing you know, you're in a cult. It's unbelievable. How does that happen? I don't know. 859-28027. We're going to take a break. We'll be back here at the KS Barre Grill. It's Kentucky Sports Radio.
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Starting point is 00:21:20 It's an important digit. 7-0 you need them all 842 1999 now shannon you said one of the former employees of the reverend is on the is on the phone yeah yeah we got tevis here we're tevis how are you tevis hey matt i uh heard you talking about brad peggle so i thought i might call in i uh i worked for lexington blue in the summer of 2016
Starting point is 00:21:44 uh while i was basically on summer break at uk and I mean I can totally believe a lot of the stuff that's coming out today about him it seems like he really kind of his worst habits might have exacerbated over time but I mean that was that man is the most intense just it was the most wild experience so give me an example when you say he's intense when you say he's intense as a as a roof boss Like, give me an example of something that would have happened that was intense. Okay. So, like, you know, I'm at a job all day long.
Starting point is 00:22:25 We get done when the roof's done. So I'm dropping the work. I'm coming back to the office with a work truck, and he brings us in to the, he brings me or whoever else is around into the office to do one of those motivational sessions that you read about. I can't even remember what type of. You get told you're going to have to do a motivational session. what does everybody think like we are here to make build roofs we're not here for motivation
Starting point is 00:22:52 so you walk in and then what do they say well I remember he played some sort of movie video that I can't even this was a while back so I can't remember exactly what was going on but you know it's a lot of talk about like you know being your best self and
Starting point is 00:23:08 I mean it was just totally I can't even describe it was wild so you're going to be your best self, but ultimately you're just supposed to put up a roof. So did everybody kind of think this is ridiculous? Oh, it's totally ridiculous. And he had a sovereign citizen qualities at the time, I remember. And I think that's kind of played out the way he's rep. Well, you know, you know the people who like the law, like say you get pulled over by cop and he's like, well, I'm traveling. I'm not dry, like that type of stuff. Oh, so he would claim he was sovereign and
Starting point is 00:23:42 above the law? Yeah, yeah And, you know So did you like him? Did you like him as a boss? Or did you think I got to get out of this? Well, I thought he was a bit crazy. But, you know, to be honest,
Starting point is 00:24:03 and part of the reason I wanted to call in, at least it wasn't the vouch for the guy. And this is nine years ago, too. But like, I will say about it. He always had my back. Like, if I got, if I ran into any trouble with a homeowner's association or just somebody who was rude, like, he, he would always stand up for me. He would, he would show that he cared about me in particular. I can't speak for everybody.
Starting point is 00:24:31 So he didn't, but at the same time. No, no, no, no. But at the same time, like, I knew this. I figured the company probably would have. failed a lot sooner than it did. It was just a I mean, I don't even know how to get into it all, really, but I just want to give you an idea.
Starting point is 00:24:54 I appreciate the call. So see, all the way going back to 2016, would you be a sovereign citizen? The law doesn't apply to you? But someone told me he has a book. I'm looking at it on Amazon. What's the name of the book? Well, it's by Dr. Brad Pagel. I'm going to assume it's him. It's called the Alchemy of Greatness, the Mind, The Hustle, and the Awakening. Oh.
Starting point is 00:25:15 What are the reviews? It actually has four, five-star reviews. Wow. Well, maybe, maybe, Shannon, I need to start making you all read that. How many one-star reviews? I promise. One of them is written by a guy named Brad.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Maybe there's two Bradds in this equation. Could be him reviewing his own book. But he does have four, five-star reviews. That's nice. Give him some credit. Okay. Well, there you go. Who's next?
Starting point is 00:25:44 Go to Matt. Matt, what's up, Matt? How's it going? You guys were talking about the draft. My dad enlisted in the Marine Corps in 69, thinking that the draft was inevitable. And the YouTube video that you spoke about, you could see it clear his day.
Starting point is 00:26:01 He was 0-0-1. His birthday was September 14th. He was the very first date in the draft. That's brutal. So he was going anyway. So enlisting probably helped him find a better location than he would have, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:26:17 He actually, he didn't serve in combat. He was in Okinawa. But his service time was two years, and he got to come home. But, yeah, he was lucky. He was very lucky. Wow. But my question was, my ask anything question was, if you had to enlist,
Starting point is 00:26:34 what branch would it be and why? Well, I appreciate the call. I think if I had to enlist, I would try to do something with the law, or you know, I've seen Good Morning Vietnam. They have a radio thing, don't they, Shannon? In the military? Yes, I could be in the radio part.
Starting point is 00:26:54 But I would think maybe, what is it, Jag Corps or something like that. I would be, I freely, I would be horrible in the military. I mean, I would be, so would you, Mario. Me too. Yeah. Who would be good out of our group? Ryan. Ryan would be good.
Starting point is 00:27:09 He's the guy he want to be in the trenches with. He's loyal. He'll stand up for you. He'll do what you. you say like he's a good direction follower. Drew will be good. He'll figure it out. Well, haven't been lucky to do the, we did the jump with the Golden Knights, and then I've done the Blue Angels flight. I feel like I'd be an Air Force guy. I need to be in the skies. Yeah, I'm scared flying. I'm not doing that. I think I'm going to have to do, I hope they
Starting point is 00:27:31 still have Good Morning Vietnam, the show. I'll just do that one. We'll take a break. Be right back here at KS. Bars, Kentucky Sports Radio. Good morning, V. T.J. Smith, personal injury attorney. Call T.J., he'll make them pay. Now, more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones. Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio.
Starting point is 00:27:50 I have to say, Drew keeps finding out more stuff about my man. What's the name of his book? Well, he has 12 books. Twelve books. One of them is called Roof Warrior. A lot of, like, the art of closing the deal and going door to door, you know, a lot of sales talk. Yeah, all right. And then you said...
Starting point is 00:28:12 And I was reading the Harold Leader's story. It said that he would give talks on the Rothschild family, the Illuminati, his weight loss, and his Tinder profile. And his Tinder profile. Those are four very different things. Or maybe you can bind them. I don't know. It's a strange man. Seems like a pretty strange man.
Starting point is 00:28:32 I'm not going to lie. Harold Leader's doing a great job with this. The Breeders Cup is coming back to Lexington next year. I'm going to clap. Very excited about that. We have basically stolen the Breast. Breeders Cup from Louisville. For whatever reason, the Breeders' Cup is not interested in going to Churchill Downs. They seem to be basically all in on Lexington, and it is all Breeders Cup in Keenland. They'll
Starting point is 00:28:54 do that in 2026. It looks like the Breeders' Cup's going to go California, Kentucky, California, Kentucky, and it looks like the Kentucky one is going to be Keenland. Yeah, I remember I don't know the exact year, but the first year Keenlin had it, there were some concerns about Lexington as the city being a good host, and they absolutely nailed it. Everyone was. raved about it. We've had it since. I hope it keeps going. We've gone a few times. That's when we had the Toby Keith trash dogs, right? Well, I mean, the two they've had were American Pharaoh and justified.
Starting point is 00:29:21 That helps too. They've had pretty good. They've had pretty good ones. But both times, Lexington in the city was a great host, so I can see why they'd want to keep it here. Yeah, it's pretty good stuff for the city of Lexington. About as positive news as you can get. Who's up next? Bob. Bob.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Okay, Bob. Okay, Bob. Go ahead, Bob. Yeah, hey Matt. Hey, you have so many irons in the fires, and all things being equal from most likely to least likely, what activity or thing would you give up? And also, one other quick thing, have you all heard anything about the AI that blackmailed his programmer? No, but that worries me. Yeah, that's the kind of thing I'm very, very worried about.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Real quick, let me tell you what happened. I heard this morning on the news. This guy programmed emails in this AI in his office there, and he was going to take that AI down in place of another, and it sent him an email threatening to tell his wife that he was having an affair. Oh, yeah. Wow. That's a crazy story.
Starting point is 00:30:31 I appreciate the call. As far as giving stuff up, this is the one that I would probably give up last, because this is the one that is the one that is the, the most successful, profitable, and so this is going to be the one that I would handle the show. The show. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Yeah. Everything else. You know, everything else depends on the stuff you got going. I think the first you give up is your cooking. How's that going? No, I've done. How is your cooking going? I mean, not as quickly as I would have liked, but better than you would think.
Starting point is 00:31:01 I've done a little bit. I've done a little bit. You've preheated? I've watched videos. I've tried a couple things. I don't want to, like, get too excited because I don't want people. thinking I'm more advanced than I am, which is what I'm worried they think. Well, that one I've had a lot of people ask me, so if you're giving something up,
Starting point is 00:31:16 I can see you abandoning the cooking career. Well, we'll have to see. Railbird is this weekend. Who are the leads? You got Jelly Roll, Laney Wilson, and who's the other one? There's Riley Green. Raleigh-Rae, his mustache. The women are upset about that.
Starting point is 00:31:33 So how do you think it looks like Sunday, I can just tell by the parking stuff here, Sunday we have filled up pretty close. Saturday, not as much. I don't know. I wonder, is it, who's the lead on Saturday? Sunday's jelly roll. Okay, so that's probably why that is. Lenny Wilson on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:31:53 So, Laney Wilson. Your boy Shibuzzi is also on Saturday. Shibuzi. You're still interviewing him. I was told by someone that Shibuzzi has been here all week. That Shibuzzi has been seen around the city of Lexington all week. So what do you think about that? That's neat.
Starting point is 00:32:09 I mean, that's a big star. I'm glad he's enjoying our town. He'll also be with Bailey Zimmerman. You big Bailey Zimmerman guy. Don't know who that is. That's the second headliner behind Lady Wilson on Saturday. That might be why Saturday hasn't been quite as. Maybe Shabuzzi could come by a gas bar.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Like I said, I've heard he's been here for quite some time. So that's kind of, I guess that's good. Hopefully it works out. Who's next? Jamie. Jamie, go ahead, Jamie. Yes, sir. It's Jamie from Glasgow, Kentucky.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Okay. I think it's maybe my second time calling. I was just wondering. I was just wondering, I'm not a big spender. And it took a lot of convincing to get me to buy a pair of them shady rays. I was just wondering if y'all get some kind of kickback because they're pretty good glasses. We do not, I mean, we do not get a kickback. No, they, you know, I mean, they pay for the ad.
Starting point is 00:33:04 But my assumption is people buy them because they keep paying for them. I'm shady rays. I said I've lost 150 pairs because I lose sunglasses, but I do think they're very good. Well, one pair turned into three-fair. Somehow I give my wife my debit card and one pair turned into three-farer. I don't know that exactly works. But they are really good glasses. I'm going to give you that.
Starting point is 00:33:30 All right. Well, thank you very much, sir. Appreciate the call. 8-9-280-7. We got some breaking news, Shannon. Uh-oh. Let me get it ready. All right.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Ronnie na-na-na. Charlie Baker, the president of the NCAA, says their goal is to try to expand the NCAA tournament to 72 teams, hopefully by this season. Too many teams, man. Too many teams. I don't like that. You don't like that?
Starting point is 00:33:56 What's that? Four more? It's not the end of the world, but I just, it's fine. Let's just stop adding more because then you had four more on down the road. Would that be an extra round then if he had it? Well, no, what they would do? do is they would make the play in games. Now there's four of them.
Starting point is 00:34:11 There would be eight. So you would have probably games all day on Tuesday, all day on Wednesday. So the idea would be rather than just playing Tuesday and Wednesday night of that week, there'd be games starting at noon on Tuesday, games starting at noon on Wednesday. I mean, I'm not upset about the opportunity to do more March Madness betting, especially in the day, but I just, I like it where it is with the NCAA tournament. We don't need more. I don't understand why they think they need more.
Starting point is 00:34:36 First of all, you're going to end up with more bad teams from big conferences. That's who's going to be. That's who's going to make it. It's not going to be. It's not like they're going to get, of those four new teams, maybe one will be a mid-major, but three of them will be, you know, who made it last year? North Carolina and they were terrible. They're going to be teams like that.
Starting point is 00:34:58 I don't feel like, I mean, it's not necessary, but you know why they're doing it. They're doing it for money, and that's the reason. What would Rob Doster and Jeff Goodman do with their big field of 68 operations? I think he now have to change the name to field of 72. Somebody should go buy that web domain right now. Yeah. So don't like it. I don't love it.
Starting point is 00:35:17 I mean, I'll admit I would enjoy a noon game being on the Draft King's app, but I'd rather than not do it. Also, the SEC said yesterday, I don't know if you noticed, the presidents had come out and said they wanted to have the NCAA football playoff with four teams from the SEC, four from the Big Ten, two, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. then Brian Kelly and the SEC coaches came out and said, take the five best conference champions and then all 11 wild card. They kind of like publicly win against their presidents, which was kind of an interesting thing to see.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Did that surprise you? A little bit. I like for keeping it open. I think the SEC would still get most of them anyway. Like last year, I think if you had a first out in football, it would been mostly SAC, Ole Miss, Alabama, South Carolina. So I think even though it doesn't have the automatic bids that the SEC would get now I still think it would end up being more SEC.
Starting point is 00:36:06 I was just a little surprised to see the SEC basically publicly come out to have the coaches come out and just like disagree with their with their with their with their with their bosses. You don't. You don't. But yeah, SEC, it's too much of a dominant conference for that to happen. I feel like yeah, SEC is just going to fill up the spaces. And that's fine. I'm good with that, but just make them earn it, right?
Starting point is 00:36:31 Yeah, I feel like down there in Destin this week, Greg Sanky's been. and getting a little sassy. I keep seeing stories about, you know, Sanky kind of scolding people, what people are being saying, he's denying stuff. Not a lot of ton of news and decisions coming out. They didn't do anything with the schedule, but Sanky's getting very loud. And part of the agreement was that we would play a Big Ten football team every year. So basically the SEC would go to nine conference games and a game against the Big Ten.
Starting point is 00:37:00 If that happens, the Louisville game's off the schedule. If that happens, they'll get rid of the Louisville game. Well, he did say he's encouraging teams to keep their conference, their long-time rival. But if you add, yeah, if you add the 10. I mean, if you make us play nine conference games, and then you make us add a big 10 team, and then we play Louisville, we're only going to have one game we can certainly win. Our chances of being a bowl every year start to become very difficult, Shannon. Like, I mean, if we have to pay 11 major conference teams, us making a bowl.
Starting point is 00:37:33 becomes not a regular occurrence, right? Yeah, that's why you want to keep it at 8 if you're Kentucky. I mean, there's no, doesn't do any favors adding another game or two. There's no upside, at least in the current system, we have three give-me-wins. In a system where we have to play a Big Ten team, now we're down to two. And then if you play nine conference games, Drew, you're down to one. I would enjoy the Big Ten game, though. Just something different.
Starting point is 00:37:58 We've been going to the same SEC cities forever. I would like going to a Wisconsin. and Iowa, really anywhere but Indiana and playing a game there just for something new. I think for something new it would be good. I'd like to see them do eight conference games, make us play a big 10 team. We keep Louisville and then we play two bad teams. I'm good with that schedule. That's what I would like to see.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Yeah, me too. I like that a lot. BBN, spring is sprung and that means you're getting outside more, whether that's yard work or staying active by biking or running for increased physical activity when the weather gets warmer. It can lead to aches, pains, and injuries. Court physical therapy can help. Get back to the things you enjoy while helping you.
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Starting point is 00:41:49 Something you've got a country. Yeah, I can see. I'd like to make sure I get there for Bailey Zimmerman. You're not, I'm not sold on your reaction. No, I mean, like, it's great. What's your favorite part about it? Well, I mean, I like how he's singing in very generic music that could be created by AI, and it's probably a love story about someone that's wonderful.
Starting point is 00:42:18 But then he also, he's not perfect. He drinks beer a little too much and is a little rough around the edges. I don't even know if that's what the song is about. But that's every country song. But that's every country song. And it's just pleasant enough that it's not going to offend anyone, but it also is completely uninteresting. What was the title of it again, Shane?
Starting point is 00:42:37 Holy smokes. Holy smokes. Okay. Shannon, just pull up the Holy smokes lyrics. And again, I've never heard this song. I didn't hear one word. And just read me what the first verse is. It's going to be terrible.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Okay. Well, you've got to listen to the song while I'm pulling it up. Yeah, I'm not that quick. I'm not the first verse. Yeah, read it. Well, I was. only scared of the devil and her dad. So we'd park somewhere.
Starting point is 00:43:09 We knew they'd never look. Oh, yeah. No, I've never seen nothing like her. Playing with the flame of her mama's lighter. Oh, my gosh. No, it wasn't very long, for I was hooked. See, that's awful. I mean, everything about that is objectively awful.
Starting point is 00:43:27 First of all, I didn't even know what it was about. I already guessed clearly he's rough around the edges. That's why her dad doesn't like him. You want to continue? No, she's well. if it's worthwhile, which I'm sure it is. Shane, go to the part that starts with Life wasn't. I think it's too terrible.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Life wasn't heavy in the back of that Chevy. Me, her, and the Holy Ghost. Okay. He did not say me, her, and the Holy Ghost. Something about us. Hell of a rush. Fallen in love. Lighten up them Holy smokes.
Starting point is 00:43:54 First of all, did he write that in like eight minutes? I think Chad. GBT wrote that. That is the... That's the worst song. Right? So you're not going to be there for bailing. Compare that to like Tyler Childers.
Starting point is 00:44:07 You remind me of a Sunday back home in Old Kentucky. That's beautiful, right? Like that's a really, you know. And then this is lighten it up with the girl and the Holy Ghost and the smokes. With her mom's lighter. I got more. I can continue. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:44:23 That's a point. This is the best part. Okay, go ahead. What's the best part? Heaven was a preacher's spot in that first church parking lot. hanging on to me like the cross on a rearview does. Her eyes were blue, the words were red on that half pack of cigarettes. At 17, that was Halloween.
Starting point is 00:44:42 So this man is comparing his woman to God to a pack of cigarettes. At 17, that's what Hallelujah was. Holy smokes. Great title for the story. There is a time that would have been considered blasphemous to compare God to cigarettes. Hanging on to me like the cross on a rear view? Well, now I know why Saturday is not quite as popular at the thing. All right, Draft Geeks, Pacers and Knicks tonight, game five.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Go to Draftkegs, bet $5 to get $300. They will not be playing Bailey Zimmerman at that. Bet five, get $300 if you win. It is a bonus bets. Draft Kings, the crown is yours. The Knicks are a four and a half point favorite at home. Do you like them to keep the series going? Well, I should add, I've been wrong now six times in a row.
Starting point is 00:45:34 I started hot in the playoffs. I didn't miss for the first two rounds. It's gotten cold here. I'm going to say the Pacers put them away. Even though I've been on the Knicks this whole time, I think it's the end of the road. I think the Garden's going to be rocking, so I'm going to go with the Knicks on this one. They're going to take it back to game six. I think I'll take the Knicks.
Starting point is 00:45:52 I think you go to game six, then the Pacers win game six probably is the way it goes. I think you're going to get good Jalen performance, good zesty. Carl performance, Miles Bridges gets going, and you end up getting the win. O.G. I think Zesty Carl is questionable with the banged his knee. No, if Zesty Carl doesn't play, then it's Pacers, because they won't win without him. Listen, I love Carl. One of my all-time favorites.
Starting point is 00:46:18 I want him to get a ring, but I saw more of those videos last night. I think this is everywhere. But you know, it's funny is I think this is making him likable now. I think, you know, because people had always kind of thought he was kind of dorky and weird, and I think NBA people were, like, they didn't really know what to think about him. And I think this whole Zesty Carl thing is like making it to where people are kind of embracing him a little bit, right? I think he's embracing it too. I think he should embrace it.
Starting point is 00:46:44 He should come out tonight and go, foul, like he should do that. SEC. The one I saw was Carl Town's top five Zesties moments and I was like, I don't want to watch this, but I have to watch it. I have watched that same video seven times. And when he goes, and after all that, you can't, you almost. I love Carl. I don't even like bringing it up, but it's everywhere. It's everywhere.
Starting point is 00:47:06 It's everywhere. And I think it has made him, I think it's made him more likable. I really do. All right. Who's next? Aaron. Aaron, go ahead, Aaron. For sure.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Hey, fellas. I'm from the, Smith. You go ahead. Powell. So I grew up in the. the Smithland area there that you was talking about with the crypto guys. Oh, okay, with the house, yes. And the house that you was actually showing, so that's the original Smith mansion. It's right next to the river. It's kind of like a landmark in that area. There's not many houses
Starting point is 00:47:42 like that around there. I would assume so, yeah. And I'm 29 now. So like my whole life, that house has kind of been vacant. So it's kind of wild if he actually did live there, because Paduca is only like 20 minutes away. So whenever you showed that house, it was kind of wild, because like I said, I'm 29, and I've never known of anybody actually live in there. Well, apparently he did. Apparently, he just bought it like eight months ago. So he hadn't been there very long. $1.5 million.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Have you ever been in it? Somebody told me they went to Livingston County High School, and they would do their high school graduation pictures there. Did you do that? So no. So I actually, my sister and all of them, everybody else went there. I went to Crittenden County. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:23 I lived in Livingston, though, for a long time. Okay. But really nobody was ever, like, allowed in that house. It's known that there's, like, tunnels. There's all kinds of stuff with it. So if you, like, look it up online, you can see there's all kinds of crazy stuff around that house. But actually going in it, like, really, even growing up there, you didn't hear of many people, like, going inside.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Like, a lot of the pictures were on the outside there. Yeah. All right. Well, I appreciate you. I'd be – I'm fat. I think it'll be up for sale again because this dude's probably going – they're going to the pokey, and they're going probably at the pokey, and they're going probably have to put that for sale for some restitution, I would think.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Yeah, I don't know that he's going to get out of this one, reading all the reports of what it's been alleged and how much trouble he's in. Yeah, that's right. 859, 28, well, well, we don't have to do that. Trivias tonight. Come on out. It starts at 7 o'clock. We got a handful of tables left, so get your, make sure to come in, get there a little early,
Starting point is 00:49:16 get your seat. I've got to finish the questions. I'm a little behind, but Mario will be here for our final qualifier tonight. You're ready to rock? I think Ryan's family's coming, too. So yeah. Oh, Ryan's family's coming. That's what he said.
Starting point is 00:49:27 A lot of them in. So he said yesterday. Well, good for him. That'll be awesome. Ryan's got a big family. And again, congrats to him for graduation. Congrats to all of the graduates. Hope everybody has a great day.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Watch out for roofing. You know, watch out for the Reverend when you're going around. Mario, thank you for filling in as well. Thank you for having me guys. And thanks to my parents who just showed up a little while ago. Larry's been making a ruckus here next to me. It's been hard to concentrate. We will see you later.
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