KSR - 2025-06-09- KSR - Hour 1
Episode Date: June 9, 2025Matt, Ryan, and Shannon talk CMA Awards in Nashville and everything from the weekend.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....
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Welcome, everyone.
It is Kentucky Sports Radio Monday, June the 9th.
I am Matt Jones here in Nashville, Tennessee, where this past weekend was CMA Fest.
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Ryan is in Lexington.
Shannon is in Louisville.
Ryan, I spent, I guess, what, two days, really Saturday and Sunday here in Nashville for CMA Fest,
which was an absolute mass of humanity,
the likes of which I'm not sure I've ever seen.
I don't know.
Maybe I was in New Orleans once for Mardi Gras,
and maybe that's the best way I can describe it.
But people absolutely everywhere,
and while I had, you know, a good time,
you got to want this.
And the people that do this for four straight days,
I have no idea how they do it, to be honest with you.
those mass amounts of people all over the place,
and you and Myron stuck out like a sore thumb
walking around your cowboy hats on.
I don't think I did.
Why does he say that shit?
Should we go ahead?
I mean, he only got connected one minute ago.
Should we go ahead and mute him?
I don't know why he would say that.
Myron stuck stuck out, but I don't know why I would have stuck out.
There were people in cowboy hats everywhere.
Isn't that what you do in Nashville?
I mean, you got the cowboy hats.
Well, there's two different kinds of people in Nashville now.
You've got like, you've got like, well, actually three different guys.
You got people who are just dressed, you know, normally.
Tends to be, I think, a lot of older people actually for CMA Fest.
There are a lot of like, you know, people my parents age or maybe a little younger that we're walking around.
Then you have the people who are wearing cowboy hats.
I think a lot of them are like me.
They're kind of Shannon cosplaying a little bit, you know.
Like they're not really cowboys, but they're kind of playing the thing.
And then there's like this bro.
country group of like people who kind of look like Morgan Wallen, right?
They're wearing like a hat, a trucker hat.
Backwards.
They have a mustache and it might be backwards.
That's exactly right.
Not the mustache, the hat, yeah.
Yeah, the mustache is not backwards.
It's not on the back of their head.
But there's like three, I think there's like three different groups of dudes.
And then the girls, the women, they kind of all look the same.
They all have boots, skirt.
Some of them wear a hat.
Some of them don't.
Like, they kind of all look the same in some ways.
but that's really Nashville now.
So no, I don't think.
Now, Myron stuck out because his jeans were tucked into his boots,
which was a look, Shannon, that I thought was.
Well, look.
That was a look that I didn't necessarily think was the best.
But otherwise, I thought we fit in.
I'm not a cowboy, so I wasn't going to judge.
But I thought, eh, that doesn't really look right.
I don't think you're supposed to do that.
But again, I'm not a cowboy.
What do I know?
Maybe you are.
The only person I've ever seen do it was Ron DeSantis that one time.
He had the white boots on and he tucked them into it.
is I have to tell you
his new boots.
Yeah, what do you do, though?
You've got to show the boots off
if you pull the pants over the boots.
Like, no way he sees them.
So, so I, I asked this on the show yesterday.
Because it looked to me when he had Shannon his boots tucked,
his jeans tucked into the boot,
it didn't look comfortable.
You know what I mean?
It kind of, to me it looked awkward.
But I was told that they're, that, you know,
when you get new boots,
and this would make sense to me,
and his were new.
They, if until you break them in, they could tear your calves up.
Oh.
If you think about it.
Yeah.
Like, think about it.
They would rub up against your calves.
No pun intended.
And your leg.
So I guess I could see that.
But I look, no one else was doing.
Like, everyone else had their jeans over the boots.
And Ryan, I think that's probably the better look.
Now, why would you say I wouldn't have fit in?
I actually think, you know, this may surprise you.
Ryan, I don't get a lot of.
compliments on my hoodie and shorts look when I go out in public.
But I got more compliments on looking like people thinking I looks good with that look
than anything I do.
We've had people say that before and said, hey, Matt, you need to wear that cowboy hat more
often.
But just you guys trying to be a cowboy?
No, that's not.
But no one hears a cowboy.
Like this is not, I mean, Shannon, this place has changed a lot.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Even in the last five years.
I mean, Broadway, we've talked about this before, but these bars used to all be honky talks.
Now they're all, they're all country, like they're all, you know, Morgan Wall and Eric Church, Blake Scheld.
They're all pro-ed-euf.
Toby Keith, Jelly Roll.
Like, they all have their own places, Miranda Lambert.
And they're all, we went to three different bars, Shannon, before we heard country music.
Yeah, yeah, that's completely different.
I mean, they're literally, they sound like Alice Bluegown.
But you could play.
I'm not saying that as put down.
You could play down here.
They're playing that kind of music in these bars.
They're not playing Toby Keith.
They're playing Blink 182.
So, Shannon, there's no reason you couldn't play in these bars.
Yeah, I thought maybe only during the SEC tournament when KSR is going on could we play there.
But if you're telling me that they're doing that all the time, then maybe we should try that.
You definitely could play.
You know, we went to, as much as it pains my soul, I think the best bar here, in my opinion, is Kid Rocks.
bar actually we
Byron and I went into like all of them
and there was a band
it was two guys well it was a bunch of people
but two main singers one of them looked like Luke
Combs and one of them looked like Tony Realli
from around the horn
I'm serious and then last night
it was the same two guys
and they both were sounded
like great like they both
to me they both should already be stars
that's how good of singers they were
and I was sitting there thinking though with the music
they were playing there's no reason Shannon
couldn't play here. Like, this is Shannon's music. Like, this is exactly what you do with Alice
Bluegown. I want to get my agent on the phone right now and book as a show on Nashville.
You know, I could mistake you with that cowboy head. I couldn't mistake you for maybe like a
country singer if I didn't know who you were. And I just saw you want. Right. Like one kind of
in the twilight of his career. I wasn't going to say that, but yes. No, it's okay. I'm fine
with that because the younger ones are wearing the trucker hats backwards, right? Yeah.
So you can pull it off for sure. Yeah. Well, let me tell you a couple cool things, first of all.
So we did the show,
the Sunday mornings with Matt Myron,
at the CMA fanfare,
which is, you know,
Ryan,
they used to do this with the SEC tournament a lot.
They turned the convention center
into a fan fest.
They don't do that anymore, do they?
I think after COVID,
they cut it out.
I don't think they've had it since COVID.
It was very cool at times.
Well,
they do this with CMA Fest,
and it's much bigger.
So, like, it's this huge convention center.
You can go and buy, you know,
cowboy hats.
All the country stars have like an apparel place.
You know, you can go get Miranda Lambert bras or whatever shape.
You can go get that, those kind of things.
And then they have ways for you to do autographs.
So there's like lines everywhere to meet this or that country singer.
Shin and Doa, I saw almost got in that line.
I was like I'd like to meet Shin and Doa, but the line was too long.
You know, I don't like lines.
But the ESPN radio had a setup.
And the only shows here were Marty and McGee were here Saturday, and we were here yesterday.
And I have to tell you, you know, I shouldn't have this stuff make me this happy, but it kind of did.
It was kind of cool, Ryan, to walk up to the official ESPN radio booth.
They had a banner that said Sunday morning with Matt and Myron.
They had a wood carving that said Sunday morning.
morning with Matt and Myron.
And it was,
this is the difference
between IHeart and ESPN.
It was only for this event.
Like,
they're never going to use it again.
So when it was over,
I asked if I could take it home.
So I now have this wooden carving
that someone has done
that says Sunday morning with Matt and Myron
and they just let me take it home.
And Ryan,
I actually think it's going to be
kind of an awesome keepsake.
I'm not going to lie to you.
Yeah,
I saw the photo of the setup there.
It's pretty amazing.
You're like, hell,
that's what big time radio is all about,
not just throwing down your equipment
on the side of a road
with metal,
full out chairs to sit in.
They had a trailer, Shannon, that they drove from Connecticut just for Marty and McGee and me and
Myron.
That was it.
They drove it all the way here.
There was a staff here.
Like, when I got up, they met me in the lobby, and they were like, would you like anything,
Mr. Jones?
Would you like a car?
I'm like, you guys don't have to do that.
You don't normally, I get a Diet Coke.
And I drive everybody to go get McDonald's.
Like, you don't have to call me Mr. Jones.
Yeah.
But Shannon, it was very cool.
I had a wonderful, it was a wonderful experience, actually.
And people came, that was the other thing.
People came.
They said, okay, you're going to do the show.
This is central time.
So they said you're going to do the show from 9 to 12.
And then we're going to have a meet and greet from 1 to 2.
Immediately, Shannon, I'm nervous about the meeting.
Because I'm worried no one's going to come meet and fewer are going to greet.
You know?
Yeah.
Because I hadn't even publicized it.
To my shock.
like 75 people showed up.
Wow, nice.
That's awesome.
Now, I think part of it is there are just people there.
And then they go, well, there's people in line to see that guy.
I guess I need to see that guy.
You must be somebody important.
But no, that's exactly what I think they say.
Because I got the feeling that half the people came up who didn't know who we were.
Yeah.
But that's okay.
So what do you do?
You sign something?
You take a picture with them?
What do you do?
No, we posed.
It was, they had us posing with a Matt and Myron.
thing and then the SEC Championship Trophy.
So I think part of it, Shannon, some people just wanted the picture with the SEC
Championship.
Yeah, like, hey, man, did you get out my picture here?
I'm trying to get a picture of this trophy.
But you know what?
They were having to get the SEC Championship Trophy and me and Meyer.
That's what you have to get.
I saw your setup there and it was amazing.
And I was, I was happy for you.
I was like, man, that is really cool.
So I'm glad that they did that for you.
And I want to thank the people, the Kentucky fans that did take the time to come out there
and fought through those crowds to come and say hello.
that was really neat.
And it was, you know, yes, we had, we had Ryan personal security for me and Myron.
Trust me, I didn't need it.
Nobody was like, nobody was coming up to, but it was, it's kind of learning, Ryan,
how the other half lives in these scenarios.
I guess, you know, like the other radio shows, maybe, uh, they're just,
Laura Rutledge was there, apparently early.
in the week and apparently she needed this security.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
I was kind of told Shannon, maybe some creepos.
Yeah.
Keep the guys away from her.
Keep the guys away from Laura, from Laura Rhodes, which I totally understand.
And then Saturday night, we got to hang out with Marty and McGee.
So that was neat.
Those are really nice guys.
I mean, I like both those guys a lot.
And it was just an excellent time.
and then last night I went to the concert.
Now, it wasn't exactly my lineup, Shannon, right?
It was Luke Bryan, Dirk's Bentley.
I like Dirk's.
He's fine.
Ashley McBride, Bailey Zimmerman,
who just stop right there with Bailey Zimmerman.
And then Zach, it was that top was first.
Actually, he was second.
Rodney Atkins,
Do you know who Rodney Atkinson?
Yeah, I do.
He sings that.
By me a boat.
Does he sing Buy Me a Boat?
No, he's, well, he might, but he sings, I've been watching you.
I'm your Buccouroo.
I'm going to be like you.
The cheesiest country song I've ever heard in my life.
I'm going to disagree with you on this.
I don't know.
First of all, he's from Harrogate, Tennessee, right next to Middles.
Okay.
So you're not going to hear me talk trash about a dude from Harrogate, Tennessee.
I don't really like his music, but Shannon, I actually do like that song.
You like?
I do.
I'm sorry.
I kind of do.
And now, let me ask you what you thought about this because I thought about you when he did this.
Yeah.
He's got a good voice, right?
Sure.
Yeah, he does.
He's my age.
You were talking about looking like a cowboy.
I kind of look like him a little bit, not like look like you, but we were dressed
alike.
You know what I mean?
So he gets up.
Everybody in this concert only sings like five or six songs.
I didn't know any of his songs, but he finished with that one.
And because I like that song, I'm kind of excited to see it.
And then he says, this is a special moment for me.
I wrote this song about my kid, and now I'm here at CMA Fest.
This is the only time I've played Nissan Stadium.
Everybody bring out my kid.
All right, his son comes out.
Wow.
20 years old.
And his son, Shannon, sings that part.
okay the part where
so the sun comes out and says
I've been watching you
dad ain't that cool
which is actually very sweet
yeah it is
with one problem
his kid can't really sing
and I don't say that to be mean to him
I don't think he is a singer
right he's dressed just in a shirt
he looks like a normal kid
college kid
now they clearly kind of auto tuned
to try to help him
right but i wanted to shannon see the guy sing it you know right so it was a really neat moment
that his kid was singing i actually thought that was very cool but i had conflicted emotion
shan because i wanted to see him sing this is the only time i'm ever going to see him sing that song
it turns out buckaroo can't sing a lick i mean i don't say a lick he was fine he honestly
shannon he probably would sound like i would sound in that moment right not completely out of tune
but not singing at Nissan Stadium.
Right.
But Ryan, should I be disappointed that I wanted to see Rodney Atkins do it, not his kid.
Man, I hear Rodney Ackin singing on the radio.
You guys witnessed a special moment, a father-son moment.
I'm kind of even jealous that I didn't get to see it.
I got Chili Mumpin.
Oh, you would have cried.
You would have cried.
You would have cried.
He wrote this song.
I cried.
Did you really?
Oh, yeah.
My mom sent it to me.
He said, you got to hear this song.
Yeah.
Well, so he had said his son had never.
never done it, Chip.
Yeah.
His son had never sang with him, and he debuted him at Nissan Stadium in front of 70,000 people.
That's quite a place to debut.
That's quite a place to sing for the first time.
Maybe, you know, try it out at Kid Rocks Bar first and then come down to Newside.
Maybe go to Kid Rocks Bar first.
Yeah.
But it was very sweet.
It was.
And then Zach Top came on after.
Loved it.
I mean, I loved it.
Love Zach Top.
Did a great job.
And then the moment he was done, Ryan, I was out, skipped Bailey Zimmerman, skip
Luke Bryan.
skipped all of them and went back and had a good evening.
But this was an awesome experience.
If you're a country music fan, I would say you should come to this sometime.
It's a little much, like, I don't know if I'll do it again unless ESPN brings me down here again.
But, Ryan, it was one of those things that it was cool to be here.
This is Nashville at its most Nashville these last few days.
So you said you were there last night?
Do they do this like Friday night, Saturday night and Sunday night then in Nissan Stadium?
And Thursday night.
On Thursday night.
Four straight days of this.
Nonstop, and there's music nonstop.
Starting at 10 a.m.
until midnight, you could conceivably, Ryan, listen to music the whole time.
I got to ask you, were you able to interview Shabuzi?
Did he make it?
No, I want to talk about the interviews in a minute.
Okay.
But, yeah, so thanks to ESPN for bringing me.
And really thank you to those of you that came out.
That meant a lot to me, those of you that took the time to do it.
It was very cool.
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So there you go, Shant.
So this is the song, right?
Yeah.
And he comes out and he's singing it.
And then his son does the other part, which you'll get to in just a second.
So it was, you know, apparently I just found out from my mom that Rodney Atkins' dad dated her best friend.
Oh, wow.
So now you got to be.
And now, I mean, like him even more, right?
Like he was kind of walking the streets of Middlesboro doing his thing back in the day, Shannon, right?
Yep.
What is it like seven points of separation?
How do you say?
Six degrees.
Yeah.
All right.
So this was the part I wanted him to sing that his sunset.
See, I'm kind of like you, Ryan.
I do like this song.
I don't understand why Shannon's hating on it so much.
I actually think it's pretty good.
It's not sentimental.
I don't have a kid.
I just think it's a good song.
It's upbeat.
And, you know, I'm just saying it's okay.
Zach Top debuted his new song.
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Yeah.
It's called like, I don't know, something and tan lines, sunshine and, but like just
the way you could just tell.
It sound like an Allen Jackson song.
It's going to be hit.
A play out of the next.
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Last thing about this, and then we'll move to sports.
You know the song that I don't like a lot, which is Applebee's on a date night.
You know that song, right?
Oh, yeah.
Fancy.
So when I get there yesterday to do ESPN, they're like, Walker Hayes is going to be on the show.
And I went, oh, no.
Because I know the KSR listeners know I make fun of that song.
I mean, Ryan, I think it's the worst song maybe ever released, right?
The Appleby song.
But then he comes on, and this is the problem, Shannon, with meeting people.
I kind of liked him.
He was really nice.
No, I mean, he was.
And he was a good guest.
He was funny.
He was humble.
And now I don't know if I can hate on it anymore.
Like, this is why you shouldn't meet people.
Because I've always hated that song.
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He's one of the better guests we've ever had.
Have you ever had that happen with Shannon with somebody that you had to interview?
And then you didn't think you liked them.
And then all of a sudden they were like cool and you felt like you had to like them.
I've had the opposite happen.
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Oh, really?
Who?
Mander James
Keenan from Tool
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was a tool.
And he was a tool.
He lived up to his band name.
Well,
I mean,
he said he told you that.
That's true.
In the name of the group.
That's true.
Yeah.
But Ryan,
he came on and he kind of was like,
yeah,
I got lucky with this song.
You know,
what are you going to do?
I was.
And then I said,
well, you had a career before
and he was like,
not really.
No one liked me.
And then I put this song out
and I ended up kind of liking the guy.
And so now I don't know
if I can make fun
of the Applebee song anymore.
Well, maybe you need to go into his catalog and find a song you do like, so you can go that route with you.
There's not going to be one.
See, you could separate, though, the man from the song.
Like, you can like somebody personally, but not like the song.
I think it's okay.
That's true.
I mean, there are people who, like, I don't like their politics, but I think they're nice people.
Sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's people I don't like their sports team, but I think they're, so you're right.
I guess like Pat Kelsey.
Yeah.
Seems like a really good dude.
Well, since I know that you love the song now.
He's a little bit.
Since I know that you love the song now, I'll just play it for you.
Please don't because it's really a terrible song.
I mean, it is.
But he was really a good guy.
All right, Mark Pope had his first camp, Ryan, of his UK, at least that I know of.
Maybe he did some last summer, I'm not sure.
But he had his first camp of this summer.
And they opened it to the media, and we saw a lot of press stuff.
A couple things stuck out to me.
Number one, it looks like once again we have a team full of guys.
guys that are going to be great.
I'm not even talking about playing, just in their relating.
There were so many stories that came in on the text machine, and feel free to send more,
772-774-5254, of kids working with people who listen to this show's kids and how great
they were, Brandon Garrison, Jaden Quaintens, Jalen Lowe, I saw all of these stories that
seemed awesome.
And then Mark Pope saw a kid wearing red socks and said, you cannot wear red.
at Kentucky things.
It made the kid change socks into white socks,
which I thought was kind of really charming and also says he gets the rivalry.
You know,
Laster's team was extremely likable.
Obviously,
Mark is very likable.
And it looks like Ryan,
we're going to get another group of those.
Yeah,
kind of our first taste of it,
really wasn't it?
Kind of see how they interact with everybody at one of these camps.
These father,
son camps,
father-daughter camps that they're doing,
everybody gets to have a good time.
And it was all over social media and everything just seemed like it was just,
it was just fun.
It's what I kept seeing.
it's big personalities.
There's a video online of O'Way interviewing Mark Pope and asking him what he thought when O'Way decided to come back,
and I thought that was a cool interaction.
You know, you have to win the games.
You have to win the games.
But in addition to winning games, when you can get a group of guys that connect to this state as a personality,
and Mark obviously already does, that's when this state falls.
in love with teams.
Yes, sir.
And it feels like it's going to happen again.
It feels like they have done it again, at least from the dudes that I saw.
And you got to love that.
I mean, I know we say this all the time, but this dude gets what it is to have this job.
And I love that.
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So I guess he debuted
Zach Topped this song last night.
Tell me, Shannon,
Alan Jackson could have put this out in 1995, right?
Sounds a lot like Chattahoochee.
It does.
Turn it up.
I mean, seriously, that sounds like 90s country.
Like, that song could have come out in 1995.
It would have been on CMT.
There would have been some video with a guy like water skiing in cowboy boots.
And it would have been huge, right?
According to YouTube, it came out an hour ago.
It was just posted.
Oh, came out an hour ago.
A brand new single, I guess, just came out.
What's it called?
Good Times and Tandlines.
Yeah.
I'm telling you, Ryan, it will be, that will be popular because it sounds.
There's obviously still a market for songs like this.
You'd think there'd be one part of Broadway or a couple bars that would just dedicate themselves to this kind of music to attract that crowd.
That's Broadway has, there's one bar left, that Roberts bar, and that's about it.
What person says, Matt, I feel like Broadway's been ruined.
I don't think I'll ever go back.
It has been to me,
but you know what?
They ain't changing it, Shannon, because there are people everywhere.
Yeah.
And it's not going anywhere.
They are probably printing money.
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Another person writes, Matt, my kid was at the Mark Pope camp.
They were there last year.
And been at the last few CalParis.
This group may be as good as any I've seen since the Fox Monk Bam group in terms of interacting with the kids.
I think fans are going to love this team.
Yeah, I mean, if you've been there, you probably know these players more than I do at this point, Ryan,
but that, you know, UK fans will love that if that ends up being the case.
Like I said, it just seemed like everything that was posted was just a fun atmosphere, you know.
Basketball secondary, you want these kids to come in and have fun, have a good time.
I saw like dads dancing trying to do some TikTok dances and things.
So that's what it's all about, I think, at this age.
Shannon, the Reds are back.
Yeah, right.
Two out of three over the Diamondbacks?
No, they swept them.
Oh, they swept them.
Oh, okay.
And it all started Friday night with me sitting in the rain.
I mean, it not only rained, Ryan, it poured Friday night.
And the Reds did something, I think, was a little slick.
I'll ask you all what you think.
They're down three, two in the sixth inning.
It starts pouring.
I don't mean kind of raining.
I mean pouring.
Like everyone left.
I stayed out in the crowd.
I got drenched.
I've never been that wet at a sporting event.
Then I had to drive back home soaked the entire way.
But I wanted to stay out.
The Reds got up to hit in the bottom of the sixth, and it's raining so hard.
I'm shocked they can play.
Literally you can see lightning.
You can see lightning.
You can hear thunder.
I don't know what it takes to stop a game.
You remember the Southern Miss football game for Kentucky where they kept stopping it and it was sunny outside?
Yeah.
This was rain, lightning thunder, but the Reds are down one.
And I think they're afraid that if they stop the game, it'll be a loss.
So they finish the half inning.
Christian and Carcian hit a home run, which ties the game.
And then the moment he does it, Ryan, they postpone the game.
And they move it to the next day because it's tied three to three.
Then the next day they win.
They win the next two.
It might have turned the season around.
We'll see.
Probably not.
But it could have.
But I can't believe they let them keep playing.
It was a torrential downpour.
And they waited until that Christian and Garcia own strand hit the home run and then postponed the game.
Because I think if they had done it before, we'd have lost.
Are the Reds, are you allowed to do that?
Like, keep playing until you win, until you win.
you tie the game and then stop?
The weird part you say that when there's lightning in the area, that's usually that's it.
They cancel it right then.
So either the umpires didn't see it or they were just purposely ignoring it.
No way, they didn't see it.
The Reds don't get to make that call, though.
It's all up to the umpires to make the same.
So is it not the Reds that decide?
No, no.
The umpires.
I can tell you what they were thinking.
One more out and we can call this game.
One more out.
We can call this game.
And then incarceration the Reds hit it with two outs.
They hit the home run with two outs.
and literally could have saved the season, Shannon.
I mean, if they lose that game, I don't know.
I mean, maybe, you know, who knows.
But there was lightning, there was thunder.
As soon as they stopped it, the heavens open.
I'm telling you, I've never been that wet before.
But it was kind of a cool moment, and then it led to them winning all weekend and
Shannon they're back, and the summer of Ellie is back on.
I saw a stat about L.A. the other day made me think of you.
He has struck out already in his career more times than Tony Gwynn did in his entire career.
That's an amazing stat.
I mean, it's more of amazing for Tony Gwynn.
Yeah, it's more of a testament to Tony Gwynn.
I mean, that you could play that long and not strike out.
He strikes out too much.
But he's still a great player.
I mean, he's a dude when he's on base, anything can happen, which is what makes you excited.
But that's just a testament to Tony Gwynn.
He played what, 16 years or something?
Something crazy like that.
That is an insane statistic.
Tony Gwynn, yeah, I saw that too.
That's amazing.
Who's up next?
Let's go to Jonathan.
Jonathan.
Jonathan, go ahead, Jonathan.
Hey, Matt.
Morning, y'all.
Thanks for taking the call.
I had a couple questions on the NIL settlement, which I'm sure he'll be getting into later.
I'm going to start that in the second hour, but feel free to ask it.
Okay, thanks.
So my first question is, why is it not an eye?
option to cap the individual programs like cap basketball, cat baseball. Is that because you're
limiting the top athletes? And then second question is, if like 10 years down the road of St. John's,
Yukon, all these guys are spending, you know, 18, 20 million on their rosters in Kentucky,
it's left at 5 million and we're falling behind, like, just not able to compete. How do you think
the university responds? Both, I think, are good questions. The first question, I'll
I'll get it more into this in the second hour.
But the quick answer to your first question is, I think this entire House settlement will get challenged in court.
And I don't know if it'll be upheld or not.
But I think in order for it to be upheld, for sure, Congress is going to have to pass legislation, and that's the next step.
If Congress passes the legislation, then yes, I think they would be able to cap it per sport.
The issue is, and you may have heard this in my interview with Ross Dellinger,
Kentucky basketball is one of the groups that don't want to cap it.
The SEC was going to cap the amount of money for every sport.
And apparently Kentucky basketball was the main entity in the room at the SEC meeting saying,
don't do that.
And apparently Kentucky basketball won the day.
And it's probably because Kentucky basketball didn't want to be capped.
They wanted to have a chance to get more money.
As to your second question, what happens if St. John's and Yukon spend $18 million and we spend $5?
Kentucky at that point is going to push to try to have the rules changed,
or they're going to try to make up the money by doing NIL by getting these companies to put ads.
We might have all of our ads and all of our media outlets be swarmed with U.K. players to try to get them there.
The whole St. John's, Yukon, Villanova, Gonzaga, teams without major football programs,
and the amount of money they can spend is in college basketball going to be a fascinating thing to watch.
Because I'm with you.
If St. John's decide to spend $15 million on a basketball team, and we can only spend five,
sorry, I'm with you.
There's no way Kentucky and Kentucky fans can let that continue to happen.
Got it.
Appreciate to call.
Yeah, that to me, Ryan, is the thing when we talk about all the settlement.
in the second hour.
That's the biggest question I have,
at least as it pertains to college basketball.
And as much as we love the Kentucky Wildcat basketball program,
we don't want to see another team have more revenue coming in to get better players.
We're about a whole other conference.
What if the whole Big East can do whatever they want,
and then we're stuck spending less because we spend so much on football?
It's not going to sit well.
It just won't.
I can't imagine Kentucky, Duke,
North Carolina, Kansas, even Indiana.
I cannot imagine, Ryan, those schools just sitting back and saying,
we're going to be cool with the Big East spending two to three times the money we spend.
That's not going to be cool.
They're going to be upset, and our fan base will be irate when they find out we lose our top recruit
because Connecticut gave them more money than we did.
Not just more money, could give them twice as much money.
Yeah, twice as much money.
I mean, there's a world where that could happen.
And, yeah, I just, I don't see how our fans, I don't see how our fans would deal with that.
This, you know, this NIL settlement Friday night, and we kind of tried to prepare you for it last week,
it fundamentally changes college sports going forward.
And I think in the long run, it's more fair, and it's going to help Kentucky in the long run.
but in the short run, we as an institution have decisions to make from now until July 1st,
some of which I'm sure have already been made just haven't been announced,
that will determine the future of pretty much all of the programs at Kentucky.
You know they're going to invest in Kentucky football,
although Shannon I was shocked at how little the people in Somerset want to invest in Kentucky football.
Did that surprise you?
Well, no, not me, because that's what I'm.
suggested, but I think, you know, everybody's kind of ready to just put all the money into basketball.
And, you know, 60% of the people said put all the money into basketball.
That was an amazing thing to see.
But I think it's clear, Kentucky's going to spend money on football and they're going to spend money on men's basketball.
I think they're going to spend money probably on women's basketball, too.
But I don't know what's going to happen to the other sports.
And, you know, schools are not going to be.
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They're just not.
There's no way in the current system that you can be good at everything,
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See, you're trying to get me to have a negative reaction after this guy was so nice.
Yeah, it's a little catchy.
No, it's not.
All right.
Just, he's a nice guy.
It's a nice song.
I'm not going to talk about the merits of this song.
Because it's horrible.
Did they play it during the show yesterday?
What about it?
Oh, no, we did, yeah, we played it as he came in.
And I had to be like, oh, Walker, yeah.
This is you hit, baby.
Applebee's on a date night.
You know, I had to, like, act like Shane and I really,
you've done that before, right?
You have to.
Yeah, you got to make a full-wold.
Yeah, Walker. What's up, baby?
Busy.
You know, and I'm like, holding back, rolling your eyes because that's how you really feel about it.
But then I did like him.
So after that, I was fine and able to, you know, move forward.
Right across the street from where I'm staying here, I'm at this hotel called the Noel.
They're building a Dolly Parton Hotel.
Shannon, that's kind of cool.
That would be really cool.
Yeah, dolly is all over the place.
Yeah, I mean, I would stay in the Dolly Parton Hotel.
person says, Matt, how can the Big East spend $22 million if they don't have football revenue?
Well, I mean, they can't unless somebody donates it. I mean, that'll be the thing, Ryan,
is do these schools like Connecticut or St. Johns have a guy? Because you're right,
St. John's and Yukon are not going to bring in the amount of money to hand over players $20 million.
You know, St. John's one of the things you have to think about. They're in New York City.
everything costs more in New York City.
So the budget, I heard Steve Masiello say this on an interview.
The budget for everything for St. John's is like double what it is for a lot of schools
because they have to be in New York City and all the costs that come with that.
With that said, though, if some donor is like, I want to win a national championship,
here's $20 million, then that's how they would do it.
But they do have the problem, Ryan, that like we bring in like $50 million from our TV deal.
And St. Johns and Yukon, Ryan, they don't do that.
So it would have to be a donor that would do it.
And you've mentioned St. John's, that ratat-poly guy.
He wants to give, what, $20 million and said only for basketball only, he can do that now, right?
But it's 20 million over like five years or whatever.
So he's given like $4 million a year or whatever.
Gotcha.
Which is still a lot, but probably wouldn't change the dynamics versus Kentucky, Ryan, all that much.
The question will be, can they find, will some person just say, you know,
let's just go all in and try to win the whole thing.
Well, I mean, there are some Kentucky donors that have some pretty deep pockets, but that's...
Yeah, but Kentucky now, we can't do that.
Exactly the same.
And we'll get to this at 11.
But the debt, like, we can't, in theory, just write a collective check now anymore.
You have to do it for actual ads.
But I'll talk about that in the second hour.
It's actually going to be harder in some ways for Kentucky to do it.
But like I said, we'll get it.
to that. So I'm going to ask you to a question. The weekend of the Belmont Stakes is actually usually
one of the most underrated big-time sporting weekends of the year because there's a lot of stuff
going on during the weekend. So I'm going to go over all the things that went on. You tell me,
interested in it or not. Let's start with the NBA Finals. Last night, Oklahoma City pretty much led
the whole game after losing game one in an epically big choke. Are you guys into the NBA finals or
not, Ryan? Yes, just because I'm my Patriots fan, but I'm big into big time into it.
You're following it big time. Oh, yeah. All right, Shannon. Yep. I've watched the first two games.
I plan on watching the others as well. And, you know, if Indiana could get one of these next two home games coming up,
things are going to get really interesting. Yeah. Yeah, then it's a series. I think Oklahoma City's a lot better.
But Indiana has a way of eking these things out. You know, last night, Shannon, it was a 14-point game
in the fourth quarter, and I still wasn't ready to give up yet because of the way. I'm a way.
We've already seen them come back from, you know, down seven with two minutes to go and, what, 20, I think another game.
So, yeah, you can't ever turn it off at the end because you never know what's going to happen.
I'm pulling for the thunder because of the UK guys.
But I do think it's interesting.
So we're all interested in that.
Hockey, Edmonton and Florida have probably played the two best game one and twos in like 30 years.
Both of them went into multiple overtimes.
Game three is tonight.
Do you care, right?
I do not.
The only reason I would have cared if you're careful.
Canes ran and we'd be root for the other team.
What a jerk.
Shannon, do you care?
Yeah, I keep reading the same thing you were just saying, like how amazing these games
have been.
It's just hard for me to get into hockey.
Like, I want to be into it, but I'm not.
I don't really care.
I've enjoyed it.
I'm going to say yes.
I mean, turn it on in the, if you're not a big hockey park, just turn it on in the third
period.
These teams are good.
They got two of the best players in the league.
Connor McDavid's like Gretzky-esque, you know, just turned on the third period.
I bet you'll like it.
What about the, uh,
French Open, five-and-a-half-hour finals.
Big-time tennis people, Alcoraz and Center say that one of the best matches in the history of the sport yesterday with five and a half hours.
And then Cocoa Golf won the women's title, an American.
Ryan, do you care?
I put it on when I want to take a nap.
What a jerk.
What about you, Shed?
I'll be honest, I didn't even know what was going on, so I can't say I'm interested.
I can't pretend to be interested if I didn't even know what was happening.
I like tennis.
I didn't watch a lot of the tournament, but I did watch some of the finals yesterday.
It was an epic match.
Like about 10 years ago or 15 years ago, Federer Adol had a match like that at Wimbledon.
If you like tennis, that's probably, I mean, the one dude was serving 40 love to win the match, Center, and then he lost.
If you like tennis, it was great.
What about the Belmont Stakes?
Journalism and sovereignty.
They got at the top of the back stretch, these two great horses, and either one of them could have won.
Did you care about the Belmont?
I did.
That probably made my second one.
I go Pacers, Thunder 1, Belmont 2, because it was kind of a winner take-all.
You know, they got the Derby winner, the Preakness winner, and it came down to those two coming down the stretch.
I thought it was good drama.
That's what you wanted, right?
You wanted those two set up, and then it happened.
Sovereignty won.
Shannon, did you care about that?
Well, Sovereignty didn't run in the Preakness.
He wasn't interested in running in that, so I wasn't interested in watching him in the Belmont.
I don't know if the horse himself wasn't interested.
I don't think the horse himself was like, you know what, nay, I'm not going to be part of it.
I think that's what happened.
He said, I need some rest.
I'm taking a vacation.
I'm not going to run.
So no, I was not interested in that.
What about you?
Yeah.
I mean, I was interested in it.
I mean, I love the idea.
It's good for the sport.
I'm with you.
I heard you say on the pre-show, Shannon, that it almost makes me more.
upset that he didn't run in the pre-season.
Yeah, because you had a chance in history now because you won two of three.
So that's frustrating.
It's not fair to the horse.
Yeah.
It's not fair to flare.
And it's not fair to the horse.
I do wonder if he'd run.
I do wonder if they look back and wish they had run in the preiness.
Bet they do now.
They had a chance.
I mean, they had a chance to make history.
We know, justified, American Pharaoh and Secretariat and Seattle Slew, he had a chance
to be one of those horses.
It's not going to happen.
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