KSR - 2025-06-09- KSR - Hour 2

Episode Date: June 9, 2025

Matt, Ryan, and Shannon talk House vs NCAA settlement, Murray State Baseball playing to go to the College World Series, and your calls.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome back. Hour number two, Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-2802287. Text Machine is 772-774-5-254 at KY Sports Radio. Text Machine kind of filling up a little bit today. One person writes Matt, I watched college baseball all weekend. Was really excited to see Tennessee lose. Yes. Tennessee losing was awesome. Louisville winning less awesome.

I'll talk about Murray here in just a little bit because I'm getting behind that tonight. But I was glad to see Tennessee lose. Louisville makes a college world series after missing the tournament the last two. two years that makes their fans being annoying. But otherwise, it was a good weekend. Only one series left. Seven different conferences have a chance to be represented in the college world series.

So people said, Ryan, parity was over in college sports. Maybe not in baseball. That may be the sport where parity still exists. Yeah, the SEC kind of dominates the rankings and everybody, the power conference. But they, we saw, teams just kind of drop out little by little in the SEC. So little, little schools could come in. They didn't have a great run. Only two of the 13 teams that made the tournament, made the College World Series.

Only four even made the Sweet 16. Okay, we got somebody on. I'm going to take this call before I do the House thing. Who's up first? Let's go to Dennis. Dennis, go ahead, Dennis. All right, real quick here. As in politics, I'm glad California doesn't speak to me.

And as a UK football fan, I'm glad Somerset doesn't speak to me. football is the key why do you have to throw in the political thing Shannon there for you like everybody's like match stay out of politics and then he brings in the political thing but I'm sure after the news last night I understand but go ahead with your Somerset point

well anyway I'm glad the people in Somerset don't speak for me as a UK football fan I agree with the SEC both the money belongs to football is the one that brings in the money the TV revenue football is king, whether UK fans like that or not. Football is king.

And as a UK football fan, if I ever see where the university is not putting in the money as the rest of the SEC is wanting to do, if they're not equalling the rest of the teams and they're putting more money into basketball, as a season ticket holder since 98, I will give up my football tickets because I'm not going to I appreciate you making it. I understand. I understand. I appreciate you making that point.

And I was shocked by the reaction in Somerset. I really was. I mean, the fact that we had one person in the entire crowd right say they wanted to spend equal football money to the rest of the SEC. and the other people either said we want to give a little bit more money to basketball than the other schools or we want to just go all in on basketball. Appreciate to call Dennis. I don't know, like Ryan, I was shocked by that, to be honest with you. But it was the whole crowd. There were 100 people there, 125 people, and that's what they came up with.

I also was very shocked. I think the numbers may have been a little different if five years ago coming off a 10-win season, but coming off the last couple years, I think people were kind of, a little down on Kentucky football, and that's why they'd rather spend it on basketball where we're going up. It was 1% in Somerset, and I'm going to go ahead and assume it's 1% for people listening because we've only had one caller opposing what I said,

and we've got thousands upon thousands of listeners, so that would be less than 1%. Well, I think there's probably more than one. The others may not have called, but I don't think it's... I was shocked by the percentages. All right. One person writes on the text machine, Matt, I tried to read stuff.

but I get bored. Can you explain the NIL house settlement for me like I'm a five-year-old? Isn't that what they say in the office? Is that right? Where he says, explain it to me like I'm a five-year-old. All right, so I'm going to do this the easiest way possible and the quickest way possible. Here's what happened Friday night. A swimmer whose last name is House.

It's not the House of Representatives. They say the House settlements because this dude's last name happened to be House. He sued the NCAA and said, look, I played sports. for a long time, you made money off me, we need to get money. And the settlement was basically settling the last 10 years of athletes in college sports, saying we owe you collectively this much money. The group representing the athletes, representing the students, and the NCAA settled.

They settled for $2.8 billion. Ryan, that's a lot of money. That's a lot of dollars, don't you? Why'd they only do 10 years? because in the law there's a statute of limitations that says if you don't sue within 10 years, at least in the state where they filed this, which was California, the statute of limitation was 10 years. So that's why athletes before 2015 don't get anything. So for people who played before 2015, Shannon, they should have sued earlier.

That was the problem. So that's why people ask, why is it only 2015? It's because of statute of limitations. So they create this system that basically says, here's how we're going to pay everybody from the last 10 years. And it was $2.8 billion, and you had to file a claim. I remember when Max did it, like, and you can get, various people get various amounts of money.

Some of you all listening who played sports from 2015 to 2025, you may have gotten money or going to get money out of it. But then, as part of the settlement, they were trying to decide the rules that are going to police college sports going forward. And the court, the judge said, look, because athletes are not employees, I have no way to know what athletes want. So, hey, these athletes from the last 10 years, y'all are going to represent what athletes want in the future. The judge was very clear.

This isn't perfect, but this is the best we can do because athletes are not employees under American law yet. So they did it. And they created a system that basically says, to avoid lawsuits in the future, $20.5 million in 2025, all the way through and it raises to like $33 million in 2035, you will share this money with the athletes if you want. If you don't want to, then the athletes can individually bring claims against you. And, Ryan, you can assume that very few schools want that.

Right. Very few schools want to leave the option they can get sued. So virtually all the major schools are going to opt into this because they don't want to get sued. Right. Now, by the way, they're going to get sued anyway, and we'll talk about that in a minute. But all these major universities have agreed, and it says they can spend up to $20.5 million, but they don't have to. They can choose to spend less, but they have the option to spend $20.5 million. The reporting suggests that every SEC school is going to spend that amount of money.

Now, there are no limits in the settlement as to how much you can spend. You could spend all $20.5 million on baseball if you wanted to. You could spend a million dollars on each point. Every school gets to decide themselves. Some people have asked, what about Title IX? Do you have to spend the same on men's sports and women's sports? It's not clear, but it's looking like the answer to that is going to be no. Under the law, you have to give women equal opportunity, but not equal results.

And over time, the courts have interpreted, if you give women equal scholarship money, that's opportunity. You don't have to give them equal results. Whether that'll always be the law, who knows, but that's the law now. So that's why you don't have to spend the same amount of money on men's sports as women's sports. Football can get the most because they bring in the most revenue. Now, so that's where the $20.5 million comes from. Now, the NCAA has voluntarily, and all of its schools have voluntarily said, we're going to abide by these rules, $20.5 million.

So what keeps a school from spending more? Well, the NCAA has hired a private accounting firm, Ron. Are you following me so far? Is this making sense? I'm doing a good job kind of hanging in there. A private accounting firm to determine that any money over the $20.5 million that's given, you have to do work for it. So, Shannon, if I sign you to a deal for $500,000,

you're going to have to prove to this accounting firm, you did $500,000 worth of work for me. Got it. Now, that doesn't mean work like you went and worked on a road. It can be a commercial. But the accounting firm is going to say, is the work Shannon did, did the work Shannon do, was it worth the money you gave him?

You can't overpay him just to give him money. Is that where the fair market value comes in on this? fair market value, yes. So they're going to determine you give Otega away $500,000. Was it worth $500,000 what he did for you? Now, how do they come up with that? Great question. But that's what accounting firms do.

They look and see what everybody else is getting paid. They look and see what celebrities and other worlds get paid, and they determine, Ryan, is that equivalent? That's going to be a huge decision. Like how much is an Otega O'A commercial worth? What do you think, Ryan? How much do you think it's worth a company to run a commercial with Otega O'A. Well, in the Lexington market, that was going to be a lot different than in the Chicago, L.A., New York market.

You know, you probably do it for a lot cheaper. Who knows? But these accounting firms, that's their job to figure out. And the NCA has said whatever the accounting firm says goes. Okay, so that's the system. Now, could somebody sue and challenge the system? I think the answer to that is yes. So how do you make sure that system holds up?

This is where they're going to Congress. And specifically, they're going to Ted Cruz and Cory Booker. They're the ones running this and saying, hey, Ted Cruz and Cory Booker, this case, representative of athletes agreed to it, the NCAA agreed to it, make this case law. make this case law and then we can govern college sports for the next 10 years or for the next 20 years, next however many years. And that's where it is.

They are now going to Congress and saying, please make this law. Now the problem is, as if you follow the news, Congress is fighting about a lot of other stuff now. Will they make this a priority? Who knows? In order for it to pass, it's going to have to have Democratic votes too because you have to get 60 votes in the Senate, which is why the Democrats and Republicans have to work together. But the future of college sports is in the hands of Cory Booker and Ted Cruz, because they're the ones taking the lead on it.

And the NCAA is hoping that they will make law what this court just did on Friday night. And that's where we are right now. This will be the rules for at least the next couple years. Somebody's going to challenge them. And it's up to Congress now, Ryan, to make law what that judge approved on Friday night, and we'll see if they do it. It's definitely like the biggest change in college athletics in our lifetime. I mean, this is huge.

It's the biggest change since integration. That's what I say. The biggest change since college sports got integrated. I think this is the biggest change since then. It just seems like when you hear you explain it, it's going to be hard for this accounting firm to police what is acceptable and what's not acceptable. Because you're worth. So the judge.

Somebody's willing to pay, you know? You're worth. Yes, but they're going to have to say, okay, here's how they're, because the judge asked these questions. And what the accounting firm said is, we're going to look around and see, are you giving what everybody else would give? So oddly, they're trying to make it, Ryan, to where if Kentucky gives it, then the guy might make a similar amount of money in Tennessee, Ohio, etc.

So the goal is almost to make it to where all the schools can kind of give the same amount of money, and we'll see what it is. Now, is that going to work? I don't know. But the accounting firm convinced the judge that they could create standards that would be consistent. And, Ryan, we're going to have to wait and see. Who is his accounting firm? They've been given a lot of power, it seems like now.

The accounting firm has a ton of power. It's called Deloitte. I don't know anybody that works at Deloitte. Actually, I do know one person that works at Deloitte. But I don't know many. But they will be the one. Apparently, they have taken a set of their employees. Think about this, Shannon.

They have like a set of like 100 employees that their whole job. will be to review these cases. So Deloitte has become extremely powerful. Yeah. And I don't know. I sense a future guest on the Matt Jones podcast that you need to call the person. I don't know if they can talk about it. But what we need is a Kentucky fan working at Deloitte.

Yeah. Yeah. Deloitte has become the most important, the most important accounting firm in America if you like college sports. So that's where it is. If you have questions, I'm glad to answer them. But that is the five-year-old big-picture version of what happened on Friday night. I think the three most important things in college sports have ever happened was integration, title nine, and now this.

No doubt. And this will govern the next 20 years. But Deloitte and Ted Cruz and Cory Booker are kind of the most important parts of this. The NCAA has voluntarily given up a lot of power, Ryan. You know, we used to always complain about the NCAA. They've given up a ton of power. It is now Deloitte and Congress. That's where we are.

We'll see what happens. The NCAA would give up that power because for years and years. They didn't have a choice. They really didn't have a choice. Because they've been doing something that's basically illegal for 100 years. So they really didn't have a choice. Tell me about Stock to Mortgage. Stock to mortgage, you know, it's always a good time to buy.

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We got to find a Kentucky fan that works at Deloitte. Amen. Sneak in, Shannon, right? Tell them to approve all the Kentucky ones and disapprove all the Tennessee ones. Yeah, then you'd have a whole scandal on your hands. Good. That's what we need. We don't need a scandal.

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I'm sure they'll probably, you know, I don't know. One person writes, Matt, can the University of Kentucky hire an athlete to do a commercial? No, that's part of the agreement. The university cannot. It has to be a private entity or business. Now, Joe Kraft could do it. So Joe Kraft could sign, you know, Otega O'Way to do a commercial, but he'll have to prove, Ryan, to Deloitte that he's paying him what he's. worth for what he's doing.

Yeah, that's where I said it's going to be hard to police that, I think, because every market's different. I'm what Deloitte's there for. And the judge, I followed this. I read the judge's opinion. She did an amazing job. She asked all of these questions. She was like, you've got to prove to me that you can police this fairly.

And again, I didn't see what Deloitte said, but Shannon, apparently they said enough that she believed they could do it. Yeah. You're putting a lot of trust in. Put a lot of pressure on these private companies, you know. to make this decision. One person writes, Matt, as soon as somebody's deal gets rejected, they will sue, I'm certain of it.

Yes, they will, which is why they've got to have Congress pass his law. This settlement is only going to work for a year or two. Somebody's going to sue. They need Congress to pass this law. And I am not a fan of Ted Cruz, and I'm sure there's some people listening that are not a fan of Cory Booker. But we need to hope those two dudes do it. because we love this sport.

Everybody listening loves college athletics. That's why you listen, probably. We need these two dudes to do it. And I will give a big handshake to both of them if they can pull it off because it's necessary. You know, the president's people have suggested that they're leaving it to them. They talked about a commission, but apparently they pulled the plug on that. So it's these guys.

And then it's a group of people in the house that includes Morgan McGarvey, who I started working with at Frost Brown Todd, who is a Kentucky fan, and who I've known for 25 years. He's in the group in the house working on it. But really, it's Cory Booker and Ted Cruz. So cross your fingers, those two dudes make it work. 859-280-2287, who's next? Boodee.

Booday. How are you? Hey, Matt. How are you, man? I'm good. Thank you, thank you. Thank you for bringing the little show to some or something. that Friday, man, and spreading a little good cheer.

And, dude, Alice Bluegown tore it up Friday. Yeah, I heard you say that on the pre-show. You really believe that. You've called twice for that. Well, I had to when you said nobody's on the phone. And, Shannon, your official autograph from here on out for Alice Bluegown, you need to sign it. Colonel, the dude. That's right.

We're all colonels now. We're all Kentucky Colonels now. So that's exciting. Well, Boudet, thank you very much. And thank you all for coming out to the show. We had a ton of people for our show. I know your show went well that night, right, Shannon? Yeah, yeah, good crowd and a lot of fun.

So really appreciate everybody for having us up. Very cool place there in Somerset, the Virginia. And thank you. That was one of the better June crowds we've ever had for a remote. It was awesome. I mean, maybe the biggest in a few years. So thank you all very much to all those people. that came out.

Ryan, you're excited for Murray State tonight. I can't wait. This is a chance. I mean, this is like a historic chance for Murray State. This team had not won a game in the NCAA tournament since 1979 in baseball. The other seven people, or other seven teams in the College World Series are decided. All that's left is Murray State and Duke. The whole country will be watching this game, literally.

The whole country. It's the only game on. You've got to think. everybody in America's rooting for Murray State, right, Ron? Isn't everybody rooting for Murray State? Maybe you ought to, man, because Duke is like the evil empire over there. And Murray State scored 19 runs yesterday, and all eyes of the baseball world is on that game tonight at Duke, game three.

Loser goes home, winner goes to the College World Series. Help me understand something, Shannon. I don't know if you've watched Murray State play. But I would think at Murray State, they don't probably have a lot of major league prospects, right? Yeah. They have played against Ole Miss, Georgia. Tech and Duke in this tournament, all teams in major conferences.

And they have scored against Old Miss, Georgia Tech, and Duke over 10 runs in four of their eight games. How is that possible? How is this team so good at hitting that they can score 19 runs? Like, what do they do that makes it to where, and why don't other teams do it? Yeah, I think that maybe they do have some Major League Baseball prospects, especially if they're watching these games. Well, I mean, maybe, you know, you see it in the NCAA tournament and basketball all the time. A guy you never heard of goes off in the tournament. Next thing you know, he's drafted by the NBA.

So, you know, maybe you do have some guys that will end up in the MLB draft. Ryan, what do they do? I mean, like, how do they scored, like, 16 against Old Miss, 14 against Georgia Tech, 19 against Duke? What do they do? Do they just, like, chop the ball and hope people will mess up? Like, what do they do? I don't know who deserves the... credit. Coach Skirka who came on with us or they're hitting coach, but somebody obviously

has got some magic working, and these guys are just not intimidated. They went to Oxford, one of the best programs in the country, and beat Ole Miss on their home field. Now they beat Duke in the Super Regional on their home field. These guys are just not intimidated by anybody. Well, I'm going to watch the game tonight, and I, listen, I'm pulling for it. Murray State going, there's a college baseball podcast that I listen to on my drive down. And they said, if Murray State makes a college world series, it'll be the biggest upset in the history of college baseball. That's what they said. That's an amazing, but that's an amazing statement, isn't it?

Yeah. The biggest upset in the history of college baseball? Yeah. Yeah. For them to go to, I mean, a 4C with a, you know, it's amazing. So go Murray State. I hope they win and hopefully that's what we're talking about tomorrow. We'll take a break.

Be right back. KSR. T.J. Smith, personal injury attorney. Call T.J. He'll make them pay. Now, more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones. Welcome back, Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-2-80-2287. The Murray State game is on ESPN tonight.

So it's on regular ESPN. That's cool for that program just to get to do that, right? Be on regular ESPN. How many times you think Murray State baseball has ever played on regular ESPN? Never, ever, ever, had they been on ESPN? Probably never. Yeah, ESPN 9, maybe. or something like that, never been on the main channel for sure.

I bet they've never been on there. It's rare for their basketball team to be on the regular B. ESPN. They've probably only been on there a couple times. True. And now to have their baseball team on there, that's got to be awesome. One person right, Shannon said you hear about it all the time. A player goes off in the NCAA tournament, then gets drafted in the NBA.

I'm throwing the challenge flag. Can Shannon name one example? Steph Curry. Well, Steph Curry was going to be a first round pick anyway. But you're right, he became more prominent. Well, you didn't, but he was on draft boards. Now, he did rise. I think that's fair.

Yeah. But he was probably going to be a first round pick anyway. Can you get any others? I'm on your side here. I want you to get one. Well, Bryce Drew, didn't he play in the NBA? And he had a hell of a run there for the team. He just playing.

I don't know if he played the NBA. I thought he did. Might have. He might have. I got one. Okay, you got one? Jeff Shepard. His performance in 98 tournament got him drafted by the Atlanta Hawks.

Okay. You don't think anybody had ever heard of Jeff Shepard before that, though? Well, we have. I don't think of the rest of the country had. Bryce Drew was a first round pick. Okay, now then that's a great thing. Went to the Houston Rock. I didn't realize.

There's no way he would have gotten drafted before that. No, he was a 16th overall pick. Wow. Bryce Drew went 16th in the draft. Yep. Wow. So there's three. That's crazy to me.

Now, Bryce Drew is your best example, because there's no way he would. Steph Curry was going to get drafted. When did Shepard get picked? He didn't get picked in the first round, did he? No, I think it was late in the draft. If Bryce Drew was the first round picked, then Shamed, you can tell that dude to eat it.

Go ahead and tell him to eat it. Eat it, dude. You can talk. One person writes, Matt, I've heard over the years, I know how much you dislike Ted Cruz. What gives you confidence he can do this? Because he and Cory Booker are both smart. So, like, I'm kind of of the belief that when you can get politics out of it.

So a big problem in America is when something's political, people like line up on opposite sides just to do it because they think they need to do it. But when you get past that into other things, then I think smart people can come to agreements. That's why I hate what news has become. people screaming at each other. Because I do think if you get smart people in a room and you have them work together on something they're trying to fix, they can get past their differences and come together. So take whatever you think of Ted Cruz,

and I'm not a fan, and take whatever you think of Cory Booker, and there may be people that aren't a fan. Both guys are very smart. And both guys know sports. So, Ryan, you get smart people in a room and they don't have to worry about going on Fox News or MSNBC and screaming at each other.

I think they can come to a resolution. So that's why I have slight confidence. Now, what worries me is if anything happens that makes it be political, then it becomes like, who knows? But if they can kind of do it behind closed doors and then just come out with an agreement, I actually think, Ryan, it could happen. Those dudes are both very smart.

Is this something you think it needs to be done before football season this year? No, but it needs to be done pretty quick. I mean, it needs to be done. I would say it needs to be done before people start running for re-election next summer. So I'm giving them a year. I think it needs to be done before the congressional election. I think they have like a year to get it done. Because after that, once you start people campaigning, then stuff falls apart.

I think they got like a year. So, you know, I saw that Greg Sanky and somebody else were playing golf with Trump, that's probably good, right? Like, we probably need to get it done in the next year if we want to get it done. Who's next? Steve. Steve, go ahead, Steve. Hey, guys.

What's up? Dude for Arizona named Jason Williams. I think he came out of nowhere. Tell us how smart mouth. Don't talk to the champions. Jason Williams played in Florida, and he was kicked off the team before the NCAA tournament. This dude, I got the name. The guy's last name is Williams.

He played for Arizona. It was probably eight years ago. This guy come out of nowhere. Okay. He had an incredible tournament. But you can't talk to Shannon. Tell that guy you can't talk to Shannon like that. He can't talk to Shannon like that.

He can't talk to a colonel like that. Tell him, Steve. You can't talk to a colonel. You're a colonel. You can't talk to a colonel. respect on my name he's a champion that's the greatest wrestling uh wrestling voice in the history absolutely yeah that's a great voice i appreciate the call you cannot talk to a colonel a world radio champion that's right you can't talk to someone like that nice for shannon's brother to call in

who's up next uh let's go to bennett bennett i ain't in it what's up hey matt first time long time who uh I have a question about the house settlement thing. Is it $20.5 million for all expenses for sports, or is that just for paying players? Just for paying players. The rest of the expenses can be whatever the school wants it to be. But it's 20.5 only for the players. And do you think in larger markets, so like New York with St. John,

it's going to be easier for them to pay more money because there's more money in these bigger markets? Well, first of all, I think the SEC and the Big Ten are going to be a, able to afford the 20.5. It may take them a little while to balance their budgets, but they're going to do it. I think a lot of the schools in the smaller conferences they're not going to be able to do it.

So, like, they're going to be spending less money. The issue for me is the ACC, the Big 12, and the Big East. Two different issues. The ACC and the Big 12 are going to want to spend the 20.5, but they don't have it. Okay? So they've got to figure out, do we do it? I think

some of them are going to do it, some of them. I think some of them are going to end up taking private equity, and there's a report this morning that a couple of them are about to announce that. Then you've got the Big East. The Big East is not going to have to spend money on football, most of the teams, because they don't have football. So they can spend up to $20.5 million, and they don't have to spend money on football. So at Villanova, St. John's, DePaul, Xavier, schools like that,

if they want, they can be good at a lot of sports. And we'll just have to see if they can raise the money. money to make that happen because their TV deals aren't as much as the SEC Big Ten, ACC Big 12, so they don't have as much revenue coming in. Okay, that makes sense. Thank you. Appreciate the call. So, you know, it's easy to say, okay, DePaul can spend $20.5 million, right,

but they're going to get that $20.5 million. And I don't know where they're going to get it because they don't have football money coming in. Yeah, some schools got a Joe Kraft or a Tyson chicken guy at Arkansas, but most schools do not have that guy. Xavier's a perfect example. In theory, Xavier can spend $20.5 million. But if you're running Xavier, you've got to be like, well, where do we get it?

Where's it coming from? Where's it coming from? And I think that's the thing that each school will have to figure out. Who's next? Freebird. Freebird. What's up, Freebird? Hey, great Monday, fellas.

I got a statement and then a question leading up to another question. Did you guys happen to see Fine Bomb when he was on, I think he was on ESP, P.Ns either Friday or Saturday, he was 100% totally, totally against this new decision. And that being said, he said the NCAA is going to be no more. So when a college game comes on or a base, he doesn't know what he's talking about, at least in terms of, I mean, I'm not trying to be rude to it. I mean, he may be right one day the NCAA won't exist, but it ain't going to be tomorrow, right? it's going to be like when the

cop win ACC, Big Ten, all of them decide to do their own thing in football. As far as being against it, he can be against it if he wants. It doesn't matter. The judge has agreed to the settlement. So Paul Febomb is going to be like yelling into the wind. It doesn't matter what he thinks. Like it's the law now.

So when the game comes on in the future, like a basketball or football, is it going to say still NCAA or is it going to say collegiate football? It's going to be in, okay, so the NCAA is still the entity for everything but football. But remember, even now, football's championship is not run by the NCAA.

I don't think a lot of people realize that. The college football playoff is not run by the NCAA. The NCAA runs all the other sports, but the college football playoff is run by the conferences. So it'll still be the case that these schools have to follow the NCAA rules. but when it comes to football, do I think one day there could be a day where the football schools all do their own thing completely? Yeah, but I don't think it's tomorrow. I think there's going to be a few years like this.

If Congress doesn't pass a bill, then I think what's going to happen is the schools will say, all right, we tried, and now we're going to do our own thing. So do these kids still have to come up with the prerequisites to play in college? As far as grades or that kind of a theory? I mean, in theory, yes. But I don't know that anybody ever enforces that anymore, to be honest with you. Hey, thanks for taking my call, guys. Appreciate the call.

In theory, yes, I think what has happened over the years is what Jay Billis has always advocated, which is Ryan, each school just gets to decide who they let in the school. Rather than the NCAA saying, you've got to have this ACT score. Basically, they go to every school and say, if you want to let them in, you can let them in. And you know what most schools do, Ryan, they let them in. They let them in, especially if they're a full. five-star point guard who can play. They're coming in.

And I actually think that's probably what should happen. Like, in some respect, who is the NCAA to tell the University of Kentucky who they need to let in the school? Like, you know, we don't do that in anything else. We don't say, Shannon, you better be able to play

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So you don't want it. Couldn't play it in the background. Is that what it is? Oh, no. You were reading your live read. I didn't want to. I thought she would like. Well, that's nice.

I didn't want to bury you with the music. That's very nice. All right, let me do a couple things I want to make sure we get done today. First of all, John Clay, the columnist for Lexington Herald leader, has worked for 44 years. It's amazing. 44 years in Lexington as a sports reporter first and then columnist. Did UK football for a number of years? then he was a columnist.

I think he's extremely talented. He's in the basketball Hall of Fame for writers. Also, really a nice guy. A perfect example of over the years you've heard me talk about how some of the people we used to criticize, then I got to know, and I realized what a good person they were. John Clay's a great example. Over the years, I would eat Chipotle back off Nicholsville Road that the Chipotle

in the mall and I would see him there and I got to learn to start talking with him, got to learn about him. His son is a fan of this show and he has always been an excellent writer but also very good to me sometimes when he didn't have to be

because I was when I was getting started pretty harsh on not just him but everybody and that was, I regret some of that in hindsight, especially for him because I think he's been like a real benefit to the University of Kentucky sports landscape for decades.

And his writing was always insightful. It was always, I thought, informative. He often would break stories. He embraced the blog world, kind of before a lot of other mainstream reporters did. And he's retiring after 44 years at the Lexington Harrell leader. Ryan, I know you've worked with him a long time. Big salute to him, a part of the UK media community that we will miss. really good what you said there

giving him these flowers because the guy deserves it he's a Lexington legend he's an icon and especially when it comes to sports reporting you know we've we lost Jerry Tipton and out John Clay so the Lexington Harold later the two guys I grew up reading a lot of both stepped down but you're right not just a very talented writer

but a good guy he was a good guy and he always would talk to you and a hard worker you know he always was always butt in his butt yep yep so yeah congratulations he saw we always talk about how I was one of the first UK people on Twitter. So was he.

It was like for a long time, the only people you could see right in Kentucky on Twitter were me, Pat 40 and John Clay. And he got into it very, very early. He had a lot of forethought on this stuff. So big salute to John in his retirement, going to miss him in this neck of the woods. Secondly, Shannon, they caught the zebra.

I saw that, yeah. Or the zebra, depending on how you wear. you are. I thought it was kind of sweet. The way they picked him up in the little did you like they picked him up in the little like diaper and then he's like a stork. You know, carried on it. They picked him up like put him up in the helicopter. I guess because you can't just carry the guy the thing, right? I guess that's how they had to do it. Transport him that way. It was kind of, uh, kind of cute watching the little zebra floating the air and it's diaper into the sky. What a ride that must have been just draped in that.

I think he was knocked out, wasn't he? Wasn't that the, didn't they have to like sedating? I didn't see that part, but then I guess they got to drop them off at, I guess the person's backyard or where do they take this thing? I hope they didn't, like, just drop him. I mean, like, you know, take them back to. What was that movie? Was it Dumbo drop? Was that when they, wasn't that a movie? Am I dreaming this?

Wasn't there a movie about an elephant? Maybe. Sure, why not? But anyway, where does the zebra go to after that? Does it go to the person's backyard? No, no. Hopefully not to that person's house anymore. They take them to the zoo?

They need to patch the hole in that fence And they take it back there Yeah, I don't know But glad the zebra is safe That's what we like to hear A couple of other athletes People brought up Shannon to make your point This is a good one

Kenneth Fareed at Moorhead State Oh yeah, great one That's a really good one Because I think he became a first round pick And played in the NBA a long time And I'm not sure he was going to be A first round pick before that You know, there's people saying

John Morant He was going to be a first round pick That was, I don't even know, did he win an NCAA tournament game, Ryan? I don't think he did. Mario's shaking his head, yes. I don't remember him doing it. He did? Okay.

Either way, he was going to be a high pick no matter what. I think Kenneth Farid is, oh, Shabazz Napier. That's a good one, too. That's a good one, yeah. Because he played himself in, I mean, they won the national championship behind him. And even though he played at Yukon, I don't think he was going to be a first-round pick. And, Ryan, he ended up being a first-round pick. didn't really have much of an NBA career, but that was definitely one where the NCAA

tournament helped him. Yeah, that's a good one. He drugged Yukon to that title game and earned himself a spot to get drafted highly in the first round. He didn't drug him. It would have been different. He would have. Other one saying Jimmer Fredette, no, he was good all.

You remember, like he got hype all year. Yeah, he did. What's his face at Gonzaga? Adam Morrison? Because that was the whole year, right? Was it Adam Morrison or? Jimmer Fredette, who was better. What about Wally Zurbiac?

He was another one, though, that was really, like he was known. He was kind of like Steph Curry in the sense of, you know, everybody knew who he was all year. Then he had a great tournament. But I think Kenneth Fareed is a really, really good one. What was the one you said, Shannon? I'm sorry, sorry, slipped my mind. Bryce Drew?

The one that's, Bryce Drew. Yeah. Those are the two that I've heard, I think, were the best examples. Who's next? Ron. Ron, go ahead, Ron. Matt, I have one clarification to. the new deal. Let me frame it. So, pre-deal. About a minute, real quick. Frame it quickly.

Okay. We're not, we're, okay, pre-deal, we're not paying athletes 20.5 million. Post-deal, we're paying 20.5 million. Where was that money spent last year? Pre-deal. Didn't exist. Where did we? Where did we, well, okay. It was spent on like facilities. Is the revenue stream increasing? Yeah, I mean, they're basically having to find $20 million in the budget. Does the revenue stream increase? It has a little bit because the SEC and Big Ten signed new media deals. I've been told that about half of this money has come in through the new media deals. The other half had to be found elsewhere. Okay.

So the other part of that is out of pocket. Yeah, and a lot of these schools are having to go in debt initially and hope they make it up in the long term. So, yeah, no, that's a big deal. Where does this money come from? It's a very big deal. And some of the schools are not going to be able to come up with it. It's just how it is. I'll be back in Kentucky tomorrow.

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