KSR - 2025-06-11- KSR - Hour 1
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Welcome, everyone at Kentucky Sports Radio Wednesday, June the 11th.
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called T.J. He'll Make them Pay. Yesterday, I thought, was one of our really fun shows.
You didn't know what was going to happen over the course of it, which I enjoyed. And I thought callers,
news breaking, people flipping people off at the Dunk of Donuts, I enjoyed the show, Ryan.
Not going to lie. There were several times after the segment, we kind of looked at each other.
Like, that was a good segment. At the end of the show, like, that's a best.
stuff showing you to run again. I do want to give a tip to cap to the callers. You had him on a 30
second shot clock. I don't know if Shannon buzzed it like maybe just one time all day.
He buzzed it. He buzzed it. He buzzed it. You were just too locked in. He buzzed. The only caller I
didn't buzz was fake Barney because how can you buzz fake Barney? Yeah, he's singing a song.
He's like he's singing a song. What are you going to do? Yeah. All right. So for me,
there's like three things I really want to focus on today. But besides the ask anything and then I'm sure I have
some stories that I still haven't gotten to tell.
I accidentally walked out on a restaurant bill.
Oh, no.
Did they chase you down to the parking room?
Well, I'll tell the story.
And I saw the breakup of a marriage.
So I feel like both of those things I think we need to get to.
But I think we got to start for a second on the Vince thing.
Sure.
What do you guys make of the fact that as of this morning, he hasn't tendered his resignation
to UK?
And there still hasn't been an announcement at U.S.
Is it something or is it nothing?
I think it's...
No one at UK in athletics has heard anything from it.
Right. There's not been an official statement released by anybody.
I don't think any of them have heard anything from it.
Did this leak out before they wanted it to maybe and the eyes aren't dotted and the T's
aren't crossed and maybe that's what's going on?
I think that's fair.
Yep.
Yeah.
I think that certainly happened.
It leaked out on the Louisville side.
which, you know, is interesting.
Because Vince is a talker.
I didn't know, right?
The people he talks to in Kentucky didn't know.
Apparently, yeah, UK didn't know.
You know.
Mark Stoops was not even in town.
Okay.
I think Mark Stoops and Vince have talked,
but I don't think anyone from UK athletics is talked to him.
UFL hasn't announced.
It's been almost 48 hours.
Yeah.
Like, right?
He had an interview scheduled.
with your guy Michael Bennett who salute to Michael Bennett.
I didn't know he had a show.
And I was in.
No, I mean, that's going to sound like a foot down.
I didn't know he had a show.
And then everybody was like, hey, Matt Jones,
what are you thinking your eye that Michael Bennett got the Vince Morrow interview?
He's on a station that's blasting 100 watts.
I said, I didn't know he had a show.
So the biggest piece of news is,
congrats to Michael Bennett for having a show.
Yeah.
But he said he had Vince.
and then he said Vince canceled.
So it's been 48 hours.
I've not talked to Vince except for him to for 30 seconds tell me that guy flipped him off.
Do you think that's something?
I think there's a little something there that the fact that there's been no communication between UK and Vince.
I mean, how can you accept a job if you can't resign your other job?
So as of right now, really all intents of purposes, Vince is still employed by the University of Kentucky.
Legally, yes. Yes.
Yeah. I mean, KSR, a young reporter named Matthew Harper Jones reported yesterday, that UK had no,
UK learned from the Pete Thamele tweet.
Wow.
Mark Stoops learned from the Pete Thamel tweet.
The largest donors at UK, and you can guess who they are, learned from the Pete Thamele tweet.
Wow.
That's pretty amazing.
I learned from the text machine the week before
from that one person
who still hasn't ridden me since then.
It was a flyby.
Just said it and was gone.
But that's a bad look for Vince.
I mean, like, I don't care.
You can't like roll out of town
and have the employer that employed you for 13 years
find out from a tweet.
Now, some people would see that and say,
how does the school not know?
but, you know, how are they supposed to know?
Yeah, if you're negotiating with another school,
I can almost see maybe not telling the school,
but after it broke yesterday,
I think you got to have those conversations.
At some point yesterday afternoon, after our show,
it should have been conversations.
It broke Monday.
Yeah.
Shane, that's a bad look for Vince.
It is.
You got to talk to your employer.
Exactly.
Like, if I were to leave this show,
you would be the first to know.
You guys would know.
If I found out you were leaving.
to go to just the Cutler.
God.
What a nightmare that would be.
But you would have no filter.
No filter.
Yeah, you filter me so much here.
I can't say what I want.
You would have no filter.
That's right.
If you were to do that and I found out from Wildcat tongue.
You would fall hurt though, right?
I'd be like, I'd be like, Shaden, you couldn't have told me.
Right.
After all these years that you were leaving, I had to find out from Wildcat tongue,
I would be frustrated without question.
Sure, as you should be.
And, you know, when I put that information out, some people were blaming the athlete.
I don't blame the athlete.
I wouldn't sit there and assume Shannon was going to leave for just the Cutler.
And if he left for just the Cutler and I found out from a tongue, I would be upset.
It's so crazy.
So I understand, Ryan, why UK would be frustrated by that.
100%.
I completely understand it.
So the conspiracy theorist would probably say he ain't leaving.
He wants to stay here.
That's why he hasn't resigned yet.
So is there a chance we see him walking down the street with his cat and a stroller?
I don't think we'll see.
Who was a dog or cat?
A little dog in a stroller.
Is there a chance we see him with the dog and a stroller with Keith Farmer?
and Maggie Davis outside of his house.
Which, you know, last night on Big Blue tonight, they did not even mention it because it's not
been released by the university.
See, I thought that was interesting.
Because again, and Maggie Davis is one of my favorite people on earth.
And Keith Farmer's always been nice.
But they have to go through the UK marching orders.
Correct.
And I know Maggie Davis well enough to know she wanted to talk about it.
Had to.
So the fact she didn't talk about it means they told her not to talk about it, which is
interesting to me in and of itself.
but is there a chance that he's walking with his dog and a stroller in between Jeff Rubies and Tony's
hoping people hold up a boombox and ask him to come back.
I don't think he's going to be walking a dog, but I can see maybe having second thoughts.
Yeah, but you, he can't come back now.
I mean, he couldn't.
If you're Kentucky, I don't think you allow him to come back at this point.
I don't think this is one of those things like the fan bag.
You can't.
I think the same thing with Cal,
I think he started having second thoughts,
wanting to come back,
and it was too late.
This is exactly what I told Vince
in December or November,
when the Louisville thing was first percolate.
I said, look,
you can't do this again.
Like when he was talking about coming on the show,
I was like,
this has to be the last time.
Right?
Meaning like the fan base is not going to do
a will he or won't he with you again.
So like if you're coming back,
Shannon, you got to stay back.
You can't keep doing this every year.
Yeah, you can't keep flirting with teams.
And you're either all in or you're not.
Yeah, you can't keep batting your eyes.
Right.
There comes a point.
And he stayed.
But I think at this point, the fan base would just be like,
you're with them now.
You made that choice.
So many people yesterday, I was at a golf scrabble.
So many people came up and said,
I knew when he came on with you guys in December, something wasn't right.
He called it.
I could read it for sure.
You could just tell his demeanor was off.
And we were at the pizza ranch.
I was so happy.
I was zoned in on him going, there's something up here.
There's something not right with the way that he sound.
He wasn't the same in that conversation.
He just wasn't.
The question you asked him about it, like, are you going to take the job?
And he goes, well, I'm not even going to address that.
He didn't answer you.
Which is an amazing thing to sidestep.
Which is why you came back.
again at the end and asked that question, and that's the clip that I played for you yesterday
when he hesitated again to answer it.
Yeah, that's a great point.
He's very evading.
Very evading.
He was like a politician.
Here's the other point a lot of people brought up.
Has he been checked out so long, is that why we only have two recruits locked in for next year?
Has he been checked out for a couple months?
I mean, I don't know how you could think otherwise.
I mean, we've never only had two.
No official visits from Ohio.
I mean, clearly, clearly something was up.
I mean, I don't, you know, look, Mark Stoops, first of all, Mark Stoops, as soon as whatever happens is official, needs to talk.
He does.
We need to hear from our leader.
And then Vince, I mean, he's not, I would say Vince, like, I'd love to have you on here, but like in your best interests, go sit with the cards.
Yeah.
Go sit there and listen to them go, okay, here we go.
I mean, their listenership will double from 20 to 25 that day and let them, you know, like, do that.
Okay, that's what you, that's you, that's you, that's you, that's you now. You decided to, to, to, to, so that's that's that.
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I do want to, though, the only thing I regretted about yesterday shows we didn't get to talk about Murray State because I, the Murray State story would be an awesome story, even
if it wasn't in Kentucky.
Agreed.
Right.
Like if this story was in Montana, it would still be a great story.
They're going to the College World Series.
Their attendance, their capacity at their baseball stadium is 800 people.
I mean, let's be real.
Pike County Central's baseball stadium is probably bigger than that.
I'd say every baseball stadium in Lexington's bigger than that.
Every high school stadium, right?
And out of the 800, probably only 100 go to their home games.
Nobody's there.
I saw a picture of their stadium.
It looks like a mediocre high school stadium.
Yeah.
I don't know if I believe the story that the manager mows the grass,
but I like it, Shannon's almost say it anyway.
You think the manager is the one that mows the grass?
I can totally see that.
Yeah, they won't have the funds to hire, you know, a landscape company.
I've got to think Murray State has someone that does like, but you know what?
Let's just say he, let's say he mows the grass.
Yeah.
What an awesome story.
It is an awesome story.
And to watch them win.
You know, we didn't talk about it.
they had already celebrated once.
That had to win the game twice.
craziest ending I've ever seen, I think, to a game.
Yeah, I mean, they had a dog pile.
Yep.
Then the baseball, the ums were like, sorry, you got to do it again.
It wasn't interference.
And they came out of the dog pile.
The pitcher had been at the bottom of the dog pile.
Yeah, I'm surprised he didn't get hurt.
The pitcher had the whole team on top of him.
Shirt tail hanging out when he gets off the ground.
You know, he's got like oatmeal on his face.
and he's got a
I don't know
that was what's so weird
is how did he get the oatmeal on his face
and he had to get up
and pitch
and then he gets the guy out
and then they dog pile again
dog pile again
and it was great
I loved it
and I you know
write the person
see if he can come on tomorrow
I can get you
the one of the pitchers too
I like the manager
nothing against the pitcher
I don't know what to say to the pitcher
The guy who pitched the came in the first out of the reliever, Reese Oakland.
No, and see, he's putting me on the spot, Shannon.
Like, I'm turning down Reese Oakland.
The manager, we have chemistry.
Okay, got you.
We have chemistry.
Skirka.
Skirka.
He didn't even know his name until you just said that again.
Yeah, but we have chemistry.
Skirka and I, we connect.
Did you see the end of the game?
He's holding his boy doing the interview.
And I thought this was cool.
He wanted the team wanted to pour stuff on him.
He was like, hey, guys, sorry, got to go.
Got to go.
He looks at ESPN National Shannon says,
I got to go.
Yep.
I got to mow the grass.
We don't want to get your headset, Dallas and Gatorade.
Yeah, I got grass to mow here.
Come on.
So, now, they're in the hardest bracket.
Did you see?
Yes, I did.
They're with UCLA, LSU in Arkansas.
Yeah, it's a tough bracket.
So it couldn't have gotten a worse bracket.
But you know what?
Let's go, racers.
Believe in them.
Let's go.
The grass mowers.
The grass mowers.
UCLA Murray State.
How many people that play for you?
UCLA even knew where Murray State was.
It's awesome.
John Moran says he's going to the game.
John Moran's pulling up to Omaha.
That's awesome.
They're about to find out where Murray State's right.
They're about to find out.
That's right.
They're about to get dog piled with the oatmeal on the face.
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That's why we need to make.
I just realized why he wanted me to have the other kid on.
He played baseball.
Ryan played baseball with his dad.
Yeah.
Reese Oakley's dad's at Kentucky Wesley and Panther.
By the kid they had two home runs was from Madisonville,
and they gave a shout out to Madisonville in SportsCenter.
Loved it.
If Drew hadn't taken this six-week vacation,
we would have been able to talk about it with him.
Drew would be bouncing off the walls after that Madisonville reference.
Madisonville on Sports Center.
And it wasn't even Michael Eves who's from Madisonville.
It was, you know, God it did.
I didn't think about that.
Yeah, Michael's from Madisonville.
So that's cool.
Apparently he doesn't mow the grass.
I wasn't going to be surprised.
Our coach used to mow the outfield grass.
Yeah, but it is 2025.
That's true.
I mean, like you played back when each college had like 30 people.
Each basket's for basketball.
Yeah.
So, you know, Shannon, I was telling you, I've been doing like steps.
Like, I'm all into the steps.
How many steps are you getting in a day on average?
I'm averaging about 9,500 a day.
That's pretty good.
I'll go another 500 making an even 10,000.
I'd like to, but the problem is I do it with my phone.
so like if I don't have my phone, it doesn't count.
And I tend to leave my phone sometimes on the table.
Like I think I'm going ahead in my mind saying I get the other 500 just around the house.
Gotcha.
You know what I mean?
Like when I'm walking around the house, I feel like I get the other five.
Get you a Fitbit.
Yeah, I don't want that thing on my wrist and all that.
By the way, I don't buy it.
There's no way my phone knows.
No.
No.
It can't know.
How does it know how many steps I have?
Well, kind of similar.
I don't know how fast you're driving when you're in the car?
Well, I mean, it does that by.
GPS, which, but with steps, the reason I'm saying that is, how does it know how tall I am?
Like, it would take me fewer steps to walk somewhere than it would take you.
Yeah, you're a fast walker.
He's got a large gate.
Has it no speed and all that?
Like, I can see, yes, it could do miles because it has a GPS.
But it doesn't know how many steps I have.
So I, but nevertheless, I still, even though I don't think it's accurate.
I think you could just shake your phone and it would count for steps, you know, if I just did this.
Yeah, maybe.
I mean, Drew's told that story when he had the thing on his wrist, he would
just throw it in the dryer.
He had a competition with his friends.
Who could get the most steps?
And he just threw his in the dryer at night.
Spoiler alert.
I don't know if his friends know that.
That's why drew one.
That's why drew won the contest.
The other day, you said you walked 13 miles.
Yeah, that was 24,500 steps.
That's a lot.
That was a lot.
That'd be sore for days.
Help me on my average a little bit, Shadden, for that week.
You know, then you could have some days.
All right, Jerry's on the phone.
Jerry, I was disappointed in you yesterday.
I'm not going to lie, you were like,
I'm now for Louisville,
L1, Z4.
I was very disappointed.
Okay, first off, go racers.
That's not what I asked you.
Don't do that, Vince.
I want to revise extemporary marks.
I only had 30 seconds, Matt.
What I was trying to say is,
I still hate Louisville.
Okay.
Well, okay.
I hate still hate Louisville.
I would hate events left for Louisville,
but because of a lot of things that are going on,
I can see why.
Now, I'm not saying I like it.
I'm not saying it's because I, really, man, I think this thing of.
Jerry, why did he have to go to Louisville?
I can see why he would leave.
Why does he have to go to Louisville?
I'm not saying he has to go to Louisville, but I can see what he's close to
to Brom.
You said his, you know, his wife has roots here.
He can still live in Lexington.
I'm driving up to Rhodeville.
He can't live in Lexington.
You can't live in Lexington.
What I'm saying is I can understand it.
And this is my big overall concern is this thing with the house money.
If Kentucky football, and I understand why.
I understand the law.
That's a different topic, though.
That's a different topic here.
It's a different topic.
If Kentucky football is not going to have the resources of other SEC teams,
I mean, I could see Stoops leaving if he won six or seven games over that.
And everybody's a couple.
I don't want to get into all that.
I agree with you that's important, but that's not this.
And he did not leave because of the House settlement.
All right.
I love Vince.
Vince wasn't up reading that 77 page opinion, Shannon, on Friday.
No.
I'm pretty confident about that.
No.
Okay.
So that's not why he left.
He left, I think, for the reasons we've talked about, the power thing.
And what about did you see the conversation?
between he and Nick Roush?
Yes, I did.
Did you see this?
Yeah, because Nick tweeted a...
So Nick Rouse tweeted out a story that's on KSR,
and here was the headline.
Vince Mero lost power in the Kentucky football recruiting room,
why?
We're taking a closer look at his recruiting resume,
and quantity was not always greater than quality.
So that seems like, potentially,
I haven't even read the article,
but potentially a stirring the podcast.
Rouse article. Vince replies to him and says,
L-O-L, I'll be speaking soon on this.
If you want to see Angry Kentucky fans, look in his replies to Vince.
Look, and Vince's replies.
Oh, yeah, I already have.
It's amazing how quickly people can turn.
Of course, you know, he turned first, though.
He did too.
And by the way, the Louisville people are flipping to.
Oh, sure.
Like Mike Rutherford, who I like, I think Mike's one of the smartest people that
covers college sports. But Mike Rutherford has been doing the grown man G-R-O-A-N laughing at,
you know, because that's how Vince spells grown a lot on Twitter. He's been laughing at that
for years. And now they're all in. Well, of course. He's on their side now. So we all do this.
I understand that. I think some of the most interesting stuff you talked about yesterday as far as Vince
and the power at UK when you said they took Ohio away from him and
Eddie Graham became more in control of the transfer roster.
I think those two things combined, if that's legit, I think that speaks volumes.
I think that was probably a huge thing.
One person writes, Matt tells Shannon, if he goes to just the Cutler,
I will drive by him at Dunk of Donuts and flip him off too.
As you should.
You don't have to worry about that.
Louisville fans, by the way,
have also gotten on the, you know,
that Mario posted the clip of me talking about it.
Yes.
And I said something like, hey, Vince, you can go,
you know, it shows the difference in the programs.
You're listening to this show texting in.
You're not going to do that there.
And all these people are like,
he acts like Louisville doesn't have radio shows.
Well, they have them.
They actually have more UK shows than we do.
Right.
But it's because none of them are listened to.
It's a quantity.
It's Nick Raus's story.
Yeah.
It's quantity over, I don't want to say quality.
I think some of them are fine, but they don't get listened to.
The reason this one is what it is Louisville does not support one.
And so there's like 10 trying to get it, but they don't really support any of them.
You know, Diener's probably the biggest.
And even that, like, you don't hear about it.
You know, we both said that Vince should go on the Louisville radio show yesterday or today.
He'd have to go on like six.
But now, without an official word, I guess he can't really go on a show.
yet. I don't know. Do you think Barry State has any chance of doing something?
I never thought they could win at Ole Miss. I didn't think they could win one day.
Yes. They put 12 runs up on Ole Miss, 19 on Duke. This team can score a lot of runs and a
chance. But they're going to have to play UCLA and then either LSU or Arkansas. So they're
going to play playing two powerhouse teams. Yeah. The draw kind of sucks for them. So you think
they can get one? They can get one. Why not? Why not? Why not?
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A.592802287. There's people on.
I'm going to go to him right here.
By the way, somebody sent me Vince's
contract called for him to be paid
from July 1st to June 30th.
So maybe that's what it is,
you want to get the last check.
Right?
Because the last check would go out
probably Friday.
Why wouldn't you want to do that?
Maybe that's what it.
Maybe it's just that simple.
Again, everybody's just human beings, right?
Like you want to get a last check
before you do the...
Do you believe that they really got nothing to do about money?
Like his contract at Louisville will be similar?
That I don't know.
And again, I mean, like,
I know that UK says they weren't informed.
I mean, I wasn't there.
So, like, I don't know.
I know they were surprised.
I know the donors were surprised.
So, you know, ultimately, it does not go matter.
He's the coach there.
Good luck.
I mean, he might be listening.
It ain't as good there.
Have fun.
You probably going to win more games next year.
But I know what he enjoys and it won't be as fun here.
You're not the toast of the town.
He'll go out in Louis.
Nobody's not going to know who he is.
In Lexington, you're one of the two most famous people in the city.
Walks into KS. Bar and he gets a standing ovation every time.
There's a whole part of Louisville that doesn't even care about sports.
I live there, Shannon, right?
Like that part of town, he could walk.
There's not one person there who would know who he is.
Like that a significant amount of the city of Louisville does not even care about Louisville
athletics.
they have no idea.
It's a different place.
And here everybody knows who Vince Niro is.
Jeff Brom can walk out in parts of Louisville and people don't know who he is.
Yeah.
I mean, he's a little different.
He's from there.
So maybe that's not true.
But, you know, Steve Crackthorpe certainly could.
Yes.
Right.
Pat Kelsey probably even could.
Yeah.
I mean, you've got to be a larger-than-life personality.
And Vince, to some extent, is, but it's just not the same in Louisville.
It's a different city than Lexington.
where our whole community revolves around this university enterprise.
Danny, let's give everybody 30 seconds, Shane, because we got a lot of people on.
Danny, go ahead.
Hey, it's, uh, it's, uh, Danny.
You're talking to me?
That's why he said Danny.
That's why I said Danny.
Oh, I thought he said Danny.
Sorry.
Hey, uh, morning, guys.
How you doing?
I have, uh, two questions.
Uh, I ask these questions as someone that currently has a partially eaten weed
wheat of box in my pantry.
That's my inspiration.
So my questions are, what would you set the over under on percentage of weed abics eaten versus purchase during the tournament?
That's a great question.
And should we send all our.
All right.
I got the first.
I like the first question.
I did too.
10.
It's awful.
It's not good, but it's better than I thought it was going to be when we tried it.
So have you eaten it?
Well, we tried it on one of our shows.
No, I didn't get a box.
If I got in a box, it would be.
Wouldn't be completely eaten.
I would say 20% or less because I don't think it's good at all.
No.
Shannon, don't you?
I haven't tried it.
You know, the only opportunity I had to try it was out of Drew Franklin's pocket.
I wasn't eating pocket.
Weidabix.
So, no, I have not had it yet.
You have to load it with sugar.
Yeah.
Weidabix should have done that back in February.
Oh, no doubt.
If they had done it in February and you'd have had the whole month there to do it,
they would have sold a lot of it here.
Totally dropped the ball for marketing because when is ever,
weedibis going to get that kind of publicity, ever.
Never, except now.
But it's not good.
Not good.
I'll tell you, but, you know, maybe it's better the second try.
Well, like, here's a transition.
The TV show Shannon Tires.
Do you know that show with Shane Gillis?
Heard of it, but never seen it.
It's on Netflix.
Love Shane Gillis.
Yeah.
Become one of my favorite comedians.
Season one of Tires, awful.
I was so disappointed.
I was like, I like you so much.
This show is not good.
Season two, my buddy of turkey hunter was like, it's good.
Much, much better.
Really?
Much better.
Like a different show.
reminds me of Parks and Rec and even 30 Rock.
Season one, and then they find their groove in season two.
Successions kind of like that too.
It's okay in season one, but then it really finds its groove in season two.
So big shout out, tires, season two.
Yeah, usually it's the other way around.
Usually it is the other way around.
Like there are some shows that season one is awesome and then it gets awful.
Homeland.
Usually they run out of ideas about season two or three.
Homeland, season one's great and it gets,
progressively awful.
Did you ever get through righteous gemstones?
Yeah, and it's, it gets a little worse, but I still like it.
You is an example of that to me.
You're really good in season one, decent in season two, then gets worse.
Game of, or not game, excuse me, yeah, the one house of cards that Kevin Space is.
First season, great.
It's progressively a little worse as it goes long.
But sometimes a show's not great, and then it gets better.
Parks and Rec, the office, I think, is a lot.
like that. The office is a couple
good episodes in the first season, but I think it really
takes off in the second one.
30 Rock, and now I would put tires
like that. Did you finish you?
The last season just came out. I can't, I couldn't
get through the season before this. The last season's
good. Is it better? The one that was
what was four in London?
Skip, yeah, skip that one. I couldn't watch
the one. That one's awful. I couldn't watch it.
It just, it was completely awful. I liked
I liked one. I liked two.
Three was okay. Four was terrible.
Logan. Go ahead, Logan.
I hope you guys are doing well
I went to Murray
when Skarko was coming in
and I can vouch that we do have
a grounds team that mows.
I know you addressed that earlier, but we do have
lawnmowers there. Secondly,
I've seen a lot of Louisville fans compare
what's going to happen to Kentucky football
to what happened to their basketball team.
What would it take for our football
program to be as low as their
basketball program was? Thanks, guys.
It's impossible.
No, here's why it's impossible
because we have no expectations for UK football.
Louisville basketball is the sixth or seventh
best program in the history of sport.
Yeah.
And they won six games.
That's one of the most dramatic falls of all time.
It is.
Can you see Duke ever winning six games?
No.
Kentucky? No.
We've only had two losing seasons in our history.
You're giving them too much credit.
They only won four, one game, one season.
How mean, they win the next year?
I think it was six.
He won eight. He won four and eight because they added up to 12.
That's right. Yeah. Yeah. So he won four. So can you see Duke winning four?
North Carolina winning four? I mean, think about how terrible Indiana's been.
Did they ever only win four? No. No. Four is awful. awful.
There's nothing Kentucky foot. We would have to go negative five and 17.
Like you can't, Kentucky football, we don't have the expectations their basketball program does.
to be the sixth or seventh best,
seventh best historical basketball program in history
and win four games,
that's as bad as it'll get.
No one will ever do that bad, right?
Not a power program.
We were on probation and went, what, 500?
Yes, we did.
You know?
So, no, I mean, that's the worst season
a major program has ever had,
maybe in any sport ever.
Name one worse.
Name me a top 10 program in any sport
that's had a worse year than four and 27.
Probably not going to be one out there.
You're not going to find one.
So that was the worst season in top 10 program history for anything.
So no, there's nothing we could do that would be that man.
Bruce, go ahead, Bruce.
Hey, guys.
How about the Texas A&M effect on this Merrill deal where I don't think some of the major donors of U of L may be like we don't want them and are upset?
and that's why it hasn't been announced because they're really,
there was scuttled, but the decision, final decision hasn't been made
because some of these donors are saying, you hire them, we're not paying for.
Just the thought.
Yeah, it would be interesting.
I appreciate the call.
I think it'll, I've heard small rumblings that there are people not happy at Louisville,
but there are, I think Louisville fans in general like to kind of stick it in Kentucky
fans' eyes.
So I think they still ultimately would want him.
I don't know what he's going to cost, though.
I don't know what they're paying him.
If you're a booster for UK football, how could you not want Vince Merrill?
He's saying the U of L football boosters.
Yeah, how can you not want Vince Merrill?
Yeah, if I'm a UL UFL booster, I want Vince Merrill as a recruiting booster.
There are some that think, well, we don't need him.
Like, we're already doing what.
Do they have it?
Do they not see what he's done as a recruiter?
Yeah.
But to be fair, Louisville's out recruited us in the last two years.
Fair.
I mean, that's what they would say.
I think they need him. Vince will help him. Vince will. Yes, he will.
I mean, Louisville has been a non-factor in in-state recruiting for eight or ten years. That will change now.
The fact that they've got six of the top ten kids in Kentucky already, that can't be a coincidence.
Then all of a sudden, Vince going to Louisville.
Well, but, okay, but you could use that the other way and go they got six of the top ten kids and he's not even there.
I'm thinking they've already told these kids he's coming.
You think he's been recruiting for a little.
Maybe.
That's a strong allegation.
Yeah.
Especially if he's listening right now.
You want to say that?
That's a strong allegation.
We're just spitballing stuff right now.
Well, hang on just saying.
You don't get to just spitball.
You're on the radio.
And I'm spitballing.
I don't probably believe it happened.
Then why did you say it?
You got to kind of throw it out there for conspiracy theorists.
But this is why we need these coaches to get on here and dispel these things.
because if they don't, things like that come up.
The void is always going to be filled with nonsense like Ryan Lillman.
That's why the individuals need to talk because the Ryan Limmons of the world.
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Seinfeld is one too, Shannon, that like got better.
First season, Seinfeld's not great.
He even has different parents.
Really?
Yeah, I never really got it in Sunfield.
Seventhsale's parents are different in season one than they are in season two.
They just replaced his parents and hoped nobody would care.
And they did, I guess.
I didn't realize that.
And other shows, too.
They've done that.
They replaced a kid in a show once.
I think Family Matters.
Family Matters.
And they replaced Harriet, the actress.
Yeah, they replaced Harriet.
Yeah.
You're right.
One of the daughters on Roseanne got replaced in the middle of their series.
Yeah, that's got to be a tough blow when they're like, we're just not going to use you anymore.
The middle child gets.
I think, the dad or mom might have died, which is why they replaced them.
I think.
I could be wrong about that.
But then they just act like it's a new person.
It didn't even, on Seinfeld, they didn't even address it was a different person.
He's like, well, he has different parents now.
Didn't they do that with the Dukes of Hazard?
Didn't they replace those guys?
Well, they tried to do both of them, but it didn't work.
But they called it, at least knowledge that they were like their cousins.
They didn't say, they didn't try to act like they were the exact same people.
I could remember if I thought they were trying to.
I think they were like they were their cousins or something.
So, yeah, Seinfeld's a good one about a show that was not good in the first season, but then got better.
One person said, I'd love to hear Ryan just spitball his conspiracy theories.
Yeah, that would get us off there.
You can't just say, like you can't just say he was recruiting.
You have no basis for that.
Completely no basis.
it's just, you know, if you're on the outside looking in, Kentucky's only got two recruits.
Louisville's got six in Kentucky.
But you're not on the outside looking in.
People think you know things.
No, I'm just spitballing.
Okay.
It's just spitballing.
I keep seeing on the TikTok, people going crazy going, I'm so tired of the cicadas in Lexington.
Yeah.
I don't hear any cicadas.
Oh, they're bad.
They're all on the south side.
Where are they?
Like south side, like from.
But I don't have any next to me.
So are they?
literally just in that part of town?
Yeah, like here I live in Mattress and Station area.
None.
But then you go on the south side.
So where are we talking about?
Where can I go and see what's annoying?
Vermont, Palomar,
Hartford.
So out there it's bad.
Yeah.
Because I don't hear any.
None.
So it is a part of town.
Yeah.
Because people are like losing their minds about the cicadas.
They're terrorists.
They just terrorize you.
They'll like fly right at your forehead and like just,
You have them, Shannon?
Horrible.
Yeah.
And they're really, really loud.
But see, in the highlands, I don't think we have them.
I didn't, I haven't.
Well, those people are probably eating them.
That part of the neighborhood.
We're not savages, okay?
You can't eat them.
Yeah.
Well, I don't, in the two places where I live, I don't hear.
It is weird how they just kind of land in certain pockets.
But people are acting like it's the worst thing that's ever had.
Yeah.
At Keen Trace Golf Club yesterday, I got nailed by one of them flying around.
Also, they only came out like every 17.
It is something weird like that.
So why are they out right now?
It's 17th year.
It's Tom.
Okay.
Yeah, somebody woke them up.
Well,
You've seen the pictures where like people walking across the yard and it's just crunch, crunch, crunch, crunches walking on the dead carcasses of these cicadas.
But it's so weird that a part of town would have them and like there would be none where you and I agreed.
That seems strange to me.
Very strange.
Yeah.
But it is like all some people talk about are cicadas.
Yeah.
You go out and they're like, oh, these cicadas.
Well, they just land on you and they just sit there and look at you.
their red eyes.
They can't bite you.
They can't hurt you.
I don't do anything to me because I think they're scared of me.
I think so.
They make the kind of that screechy noise all the time.
They're awful.
When I lived in D.C., it was like the every 20 years time.
Uh-huh.
And it was just horrendous.
So I remember what they're like, but I just haven't heard them here.
Andrew, go ahead, Andrew.
What's up, guys?
Just a question for everyone.
If y'all can have a one hour dinner with any athlete, dead or alive, who would be in
wild?
Thanks.
Dead or alive?
Ali.
It's a great one.
Just all, I mean, just his life story and how in the world did you become friends with Captain Suntan?
No, I mean, that's, I'm kidding.
But, like, his life story's amazing and all the things he went through and all that.
So probably dead or alive, Muhammad Ali.
Great choice.
For alive, I'd probably pick Larry Bird.
I thought you were going to say stay immusual or something.
The Cardinals guy.
Yeah, Lou Brock was my hero.
Lou Brock, okay.
But Larry Bird, I've never even met Larry Bird.
and he grew up 30 minutes from where I grew up.
It's like you could do that.
I still never met him.
Not even talked to.
He doesn't seem to be like all that interesting, though.
No, but I could talk to him and kind of relate to him back in French Lake.
You think you could relate to him?
Yeah. You think you and he would be friends.
Yeah.
Okay.
So it would be more for him than you.
Sure, probably.
I think I did it as my dad was coached at Shoals and coached against Larry Bird.
He was a sophomore.
He probably remembered that, Shannon.
Yeah, no, yeah.
He probably remember right now.
And he held Larry Bird to a cool 32 points at that, I think.
He probably remember that.
Shannon, who would yours be? Oh, I don't know.
Mike Tyson would be fun.
I feel like you could pay $49.99 and make that happen right now. I would pay it right now if we could make that happen.
Rick Flair, I feel like you probably just go to any bar.
No, you could do that. Just go to any bar.
Dude, he's kind of had a sad breakdown here in the last few weeks.
I saw that. Social media. Have you seen the stuff he's been posting?
Yeah. It's kind of sad, actually. It's kind of like you're watching a person in real time.
Yes. It is kind of sad.
It is, it's kind of sad.
I still have dinner with them though.
I don't care.
Yeah.
No, Casey, go ahead.
30 seconds.
Hey, good morning, Veller.
So I just have three quick things.
Leaving the SEC for an ACC football coaching job as a chump move.
Kentucky till I die, if you go down, I'm going down too.
We got to, this is such a chump move.
Go cat.
All right.
There you go.
I think that's a pretty universal.
Yes.
It's a pretty universal feeling.
I don't hear a lot of people going.
Except for Jerry.
Vince will always have Jerry.
And Billy.
Jerry and Billy will be the two people Vince will have saying they understand.
You know, it is funny, though.
People will move on quickly.
You know what I mean?
Like they'll, it'll be what it'll be.
One person here writes on the text machine, Matt,
I don't know how you can say you have no football expectations.
That's crazy to me.
Again, we've talked about this a lot over the years.
I think it's an age thing.
I think younger people who grew up not knowing that we always stunk.
Yeah.
Have a different set of expectations than I do.
I have expectations that will be competitive.
But I don't have expectations that we will win 9, 10, 11 games every year.
I'm glad people do.
That's fine.
I just want to have expectations that will not make me always unhappy.
So my expectation is win six.
We didn't do that last year.
If you don't do it this year, then I start to get very frustrated.
We remember the years they were 0 and 11, 1 and 10, 2 and 9.
Not that far away in our lifetime.
But you're right.
Like young guys like Josiah, they just know UK football is winners going to bowl games every year.
And a lot of the frustration, you know, a lot of the Mark Stoops.
The Mark Stoops timeline is fascinating.
I think it goes back to the fight with Cal.
And the Cal people just turned on Mark Stoops.
They later turned on Cal too, but they got, they started by, during the Cow
Stoops is this a basketball football school.
They sided with Cal and they started hating Mark Sto's.
And then there's also an expectation level for a lot of those folks.
Like they just were never around.
I mean, I went 35 years where we had one season that was good, which was the couch year, right?
And then Andre Woodson year.
We had like two seasons that were good.
So it's just an expectation thing.
I'm not saying other people are wrong.
It's just what you became used to.
Yeah.
Life's about expectations in pretty much everything.
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and I ended up burning out. There was a large chunk of my 20s that I, like, was just so wanting to,
like, be out of that phase out of my skin, and I just, like, really regret not living in the present
more. You don't need to have everything figured out right now. You just need to understand yourself
a little bit better. Listen to the psychology of your 20s on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
