KSR - 2025-06-20- KSR - Hour 2

Episode Date: June 20, 2025

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Starting point is 00:03:16 Here is Kentucky Sports Radio. Mike's Landing, Sulfur Creek, friendly atmosphere, cold drinks, great food. We ordered our sandwiches when we're done here. group or sandwiches we're going to eat. The boats are out. It is absolutely a beautiful day developing right here at Mike Slamming on Del Hollow Lake. I do want to note one thing. I don't have the individual's name, but there is while we're down here,
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Starting point is 00:04:09 All right. So today, one of the things I wanted to ask, 859, 280, 20, 287, these guys don't even know I'm going to say this. So I'm going to let Drew go first so Ryan doesn't say something that'll embarrass. I make you, Drew Franklin, athletic director for the University of Kentucky. First of all, you need to start buttoning the top button on your polo shirt. But besides that, you are the athletic director for the University of Kentucky.
Starting point is 00:04:34 I give you the ability to change one thing about any part of the UK sports department, specifically basketball or football. You get to change one thing immediately as my gift to you as the new athletic department chair. What is going to be the one thing that you would change? the most about UK athletics. Kind of put on the spot here. That's the point. Yeah, the first thing that came to my mind was,
Starting point is 00:05:02 and we mentioned this this week, I believe, is getting back to a better tailgating scene around Krogerfield, whether that's in the entertainment district, planting some grass, I don't know, but something to get back, because I feel like tailgating, not that it's ever been elite at UK. So let's say, I grant you that,
Starting point is 00:05:18 and I say here is X amount of money to go do it. What would you do? I am, what was that? Go ahead. What would you do? A little limited on property over there. Even though they're building something right now, I'm bulldozing it. I think it's halfway done over that ag, whatever it is. Who needs ag?
Starting point is 00:05:37 I think the tailgating has to improve. But you haven't told me what you're going to do? Well, I'm bulldozing the new egg building going to. And putting what? Just big open space where we can tailgate. Like grass and stuff? Some grass. We try to make our own little grove that they have at Ole Miss.
Starting point is 00:05:52 All right. So you're... I'm bulldozing the building we are currently building and planting trees. Just taking it out right now. All right, Shannon, I give you the ability to do anything with UK sports. What are you going to do? The first thing that came to mind is going to make a lot of people mad, but I don't care. But I do care about this, and we probably lose quite a bit of money.
Starting point is 00:06:12 But I would love to do something with the student section at Rupp Arena and not have them on the end zone. I want to have them down in front where all those donors are. That would be my change. If I could get around the money hurdle, which is a big deal. I actually really like that suggestion. I don't, you know, financially, that's probably never going to happen. But I do think the atmosphere at Rupp would be so much better if you were able to do that. So I actually think that's a really good one.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Ryan Lippon, what are you going to do? That was mine, so I guess I'll just got to add to it. No, no, no, you got to do a different one. Shannon took it. I'll put in the luxury suites at Rupp Arena. Put in some suites on both sides, just make it more. So put the donors up there then. Yeah, put the donors up there and their sweets.
Starting point is 00:06:50 So you're going to use your one thing to do to help the rich people. people? Well, they stole my other two ideas. I'm scrambling. Ryan gets to do anything and he wants to make sure they have cushier sweets. Yeah, Drew. Make a better kind of a cooler place to go. For the rich people. Well, you know, you might get us up there one day. Well, I'm not going to bring you up there with that attitude. He's the reverse Robin Hood. He's trying to take care of the rich.
Starting point is 00:07:14 If I, exactly. If I were to do it, my number one thing is I would basically limit it to where we can only play one neutral court game a year, and we go back to home and homes completely. Like we schedule all of our games of home and home, and here's what I think college basketball ought to do, and I'd like to be the one to advocate for it. Take the first two Saturdays after the Super Bowl, and then leave them open and pair the best teams up
Starting point is 00:07:46 so that when the world turns its attention to college basketball, they're seeing the best teams go at each other. immediately. And so, you know, he used to do this with that bracket buster Saturday for the small conferences. They just say, you hold these games, and then we're going to tell you who you play two weeks before. I would do that with all of college basketball so that when NFL's done, people tune in and it's Kentucky, Duke, et cetera, and I would make all those games on home courts. So for me at Kentucky, I'm not saying we don't ever have to play terrible teams, but like they just announced the tournament we're having on campus. It's Kentucky, eastern Illinois,
Starting point is 00:08:23 Valparaiso and Southern. I mean, nobody wants to watch that, Shannon. So if it were up to me, I would much prefer to go play Yukon on the road and then play, I don't know, Houston at home or something so that you actually got big-time match. 100%. Yeah, I love the home-and-home idea. I think we play too many of these neutral court games.
Starting point is 00:08:43 So, yeah, if we could get more games at home against some of those caliber teams, and I would just like to see us be able to have a little more flexibility in our schedule where we schedule the teams that are going to be the good that year. Like, for instance, we're playing Michigan State this year. We're playing Indiana this year. I mean, is that better than playing, you know, Norfolk State? Yeah, but they're not great. I'd much prefer that this year play Houston and Purdue.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Now, some years I wouldn't want to play them, but this year, Ryan, I would. So I feel like I wish we had more flexibility. To me, the only team that should be on the schedule for sure every year is Louisville. Besides that, I'd like to have flexibility as to who we play. You know, we kind of toyed around at one time, have a game at Memorial Coliseum, maybe for students only. That's a great one, too. That would be a great one. That was it.
Starting point is 00:09:30 I was actually just about to add. I got an email that says I can't bulldoze that building, so I have to change my plan. A game of significance in Memorial. However you make that work, not Kentucky State. Can you imagine if we played Indiana this year in Memorial, how much fun that would be? Just to have that game, you're exactly right. If you have one, 772-745-254 on the text machine, who's up next, Rick? Rudy is up next.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Rudy, go ahead, Rudy. Hey, Matt, I got two quick things. I played golf at the U-club the Saturday after your scramble, and I want to thank you. I found about 7,000 golf balls. Literally walk up to a T-box twice and there was a ProB1 that's sitting there. Yeah, that was a pretty drunk day, and I could see in some really bad. golfer so I could see a lot of golf balls out there for the tank. And car path only.
Starting point is 00:10:24 You just leave. Oh, it was cart path only. Yeah. So people didn't want to walk. That was probably a great day for getting golf balls. Yeah. It was. And my second thing is, if UK football goes four and eight, I think they'll fire suits.
Starting point is 00:10:38 What do you think? And what's that going to cost us in money? Yeah. So let's say you were, again, I'm not advocating for this until the time comes because the season is starting. and so, but I appreciate the call. Let's say you were to get rid of stoops at the end of the year. I believe the cost is now at the end of the year $27 to $28 million.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I believe at the end of the year. Now, there are ways you can do that. The way schools do it now is they, let's say it's $27 million just so the math is easy, and it was $9 million a year. You can do it to where you get $9 million every single year. year and if Stoops doesn't get a job he just takes the nine million dollars there's another way you can do it though whereas you say if you just take 18 you can have it and then you can go make more
Starting point is 00:11:32 money you can go sign with somebody else because if he signs one thing's about the deal let's say mark were to become the coach of iwa and they were to pay him six million dollars then UK at that point only has to pay three million dollars all right they just have to pay the difference But most coaches want to double dip, right? So they agree to a buyout for lesser money so they can then go coach somewhere else, get full salary, and actually make more money, if that makes sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:00 So now, if Mark Stoops, though, if he were to get fired, just doesn't want to coach anymore, then he can just sit home and take the money, and there's really nothing we can do about it, right? So you don't have to pay $27 million up front. You spread it out over three years, but it's still a ton of money. And we've talked about this.
Starting point is 00:12:17 You know, his dad died, in an early age. He was a football coach. His brother's kind of, one of his brother retired kind of at an early age. I think they that's something on the horizon to think about that. When he steps away, he may be done with coaching. Yeah, it was $37 million this year. So, again, I don't
Starting point is 00:12:32 have the provisions of his contract, but Drew, I would assume it's 27 to 28 right now. Or at the end of the year. If it gets to that point where it's just a horrible year, you got to do what you said to him, be like, look, we got 20. Let's meet in the middle somewhere. You don't want to be here any more than everyone wants you here. Let's find
Starting point is 00:12:48 the easiest way for both sides to move on. As a practical matter, if we were to go four and eight, the fans are going to want a change. But there's the money issue and there's a stoop. As a practical matter, do you think a change would occur in that scenario? Yeah, because at some point you've got to look at the money you're going to lose by running it back and people just being completely checked out, not buying tickets, not buying merchandise, not getting into it.
Starting point is 00:13:16 So there's some number there where if you're, If it's so bad, you're worried you're not going to make enough, you just got to bite the bullet and buy them out. Do you think that way, if the scenario of four and eight happened, do you think a change would be made? What if that eighth, that fourth win is Louisville to end the season? I don't think if that would mean you won no SEC games. Which is what happened, Latt?
Starting point is 00:13:37 And if you went, if you got zero SEC games on top, well, we won, we beat Ole Miss. One year, yeah. If you had won one SEC game and had gone one SEC game and gone one, and 15 in the SEC in two seasons. You can't keep that going. And that games at Louisville should be another season with no home wins of a power of 14. You know, I don't think until I just articulated it, I realized how bad it could be if you're
Starting point is 00:14:05 one in 15, Shannon, in two. But I mean, we're going to go, let's be real. I'm not trying to be a bummer, but let's be real about the SEC. We are going to be next year, certainly an underdog. in eight of our 12 games. And then probably a favorite in three. And then Shannon, Vandy, maybe we're a favorite, but we also could end up an underdog in that game.
Starting point is 00:14:31 There might be a scenario where we are an underdog in nine games next year. Yeah. That's going to be tough. And they haven't won a home game in the SEC in how long? It feels like five is kind of the magic number, even though five and seven is not acceptable. To keep your job, I feel like five is the number you need to get to.
Starting point is 00:14:48 I don't know if this is true, but I have a person who just wrote me who generally knows what they're talking about. I need to look this up. Where's Billy? Billy, this is going to be you to figure out if it's true. He says to me that one of the issues with Stoop's contract is it was negotiated to where he's owed the entirety of his buyout within 60 days of firing. Oh. Now, if that's true. That's some strong negotiation.
Starting point is 00:15:12 If that's true, we lost that negotiation with Mark's. But that does change the case. calculus quite a bit. Let me find out if that's true. Because if that's true, that'd be a tough pill to swallow, man. That's tough, especially on the year after you're adding $20 million a year to your budget in paying players. We need to get John Calipari lucky. Who's the Tyson chicken of football that could tell me and save the day?
Starting point is 00:15:36 Stoops' agent, this is something to remember. Mark Stoops' agent is Jimmy Sexton, who his only clients are like Nick Sabin, Bob Stup and Mark is works because he was his brother's age so like I always say my agent at ESPN I'm his worst client which is definitively true Mark Stoops is probably Jimmy Sexton's worst client but he's known as a get stuff like that into his contract the biggest agents he's the biggest agent in college football so we'll see if Billy which one's right who's next Sosa is next Sosa go ahead Sosa yeah what's going on guys Y'all were talking another day about the Memphis crime problem.
Starting point is 00:16:22 About what? About the Memphis crime problem. Memphis crime problem. Memphis crime. Okay, got you. Yeah, yeah, sorry. I just read an article and it said that a guy just got arrested for trying to kidnap the mayor. Yeah, but you know where that also happens?
Starting point is 00:16:41 Like, Lawrence County. Like, that happens in a lot of places. I can read you headlines from all over Kentucky of like, you know, man threatens man with chicken. Like stuff happens. It's not a – Memphis has too much crime, but you can't just take an anecdotal story and reflect on the whole city because there are stories like that everywhere. We had a crime against our own mayor in Louisville. Yeah, that's a great point. In Louisville, my friend was shot at.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Like, not just threatened. he was a there was an assassination attempt on the guy there was a Minnesota lawmaker killed one week ago like crime happens everywhere and there you go I appreciate the call I mean I'm just saying like I think it's easy just the the murder rates or whatever are what they are but just a perfect example and I'll shut up about this do I think there's too much crime in California yes people will go oh California's You know where the murder rate is higher than it is in California? Alabama. But does anybody say Alabama's lawless?
Starting point is 00:17:53 No. They say California, even though the murder rates higher in Alabama. I just feel bad for the Lawrence Burke mayor. I tell you, but the Lawrence, nothing against Lawrence County. You all may not threaten each other with chickens. I was just picking out a random, I always say breath at county and I feel bad. I need to stop doing it. Illinois, I can't remember the name of the town we want to, though, was in Illinois,
Starting point is 00:18:11 and it was like one of the murder capitals of the country. That's right. It was a little bit of a small town. Yeah, a little bit small town. Yeah, because there's not as many people and all that. Hey, summer is here. Did you find out what's right? All right, we will tell you after the break.
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Starting point is 00:23:01 First of all, got breaking news. Rick, sorry, I had to think who was in studio. Go ahead, Rick. It's only sort of breaking news. But at Vince Meryl's press conference, he led it off by saying, just so you all know, I wasn't kicked out at the school up the street. Called us the school up the street. Same stuff he used to do to them.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Now the rolls are reversed. That's how it's going to be. I can't tell you that hurts. That hurts. Again, Vince, you say stuff like that. Then don't be surprised when you get the Dunkin' Donuts reaction when you say the school up the street. Just going to be how it is. All right.
Starting point is 00:23:41 So Billy found the clause. It's worse than I thought. Oh, great. It's not $28 million. It's $37.5 million. And Kentucky agreed to pay all $37.5 million, which, you know, within 60 days of the notice to turn. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Just to give you an example of how much that is, had Cal been fired before he went to Arkansas, it was only $34 million. Ouch. So it actually would be more than it would have taken to get rid of CalPy. So now if he goes 4 and 8, do you just let it play out?
Starting point is 00:24:18 Just let us. Man, if you're Mitch Barnard, that's a tough call, man. That's a lot of money. Yeah, I mean, well, so all right, so I always kind of defended, I always kind of defended the Cal deal that led to the lifetime contract because I said, what are you going to do, let him go to UCLA?
Starting point is 00:24:37 But, oh, and $37.5 million is pretty tough. Here's the problem with the Stoops contract, was when we started adding provisions that every time we got a bowl, it got a year long. Uh-huh, yeah. Because what ended up happening is until we missed a bowl, which was what, first time last year? year. His contract remained the same length forever. So think about that. I don't know what the initial
Starting point is 00:25:04 deal was, but let's say it was five years. Every time he made a bowl, it just kept being five years. So there never were any years taken off of it. So essentially you were setting it up to he gets five years of not making a bowl free. Yeah, and that shows the desperation of just getting back to being bowl eligible. I don't know that that ever really, I don't know. know that I ever realized what I just said. Yeah. We gave him a contract where every year he made a bowl, it just kept going. That's how bad it really was.
Starting point is 00:25:35 And we gave him five years of missing bowls. That's actually horrible. That's a horrible contract. And I don't know that I ever processed that until right now. Well, we were living large there for a while. We were living that large. Ten wins, going to bowls every year. I mean, for UK football, that's as good as it's going to get.
Starting point is 00:25:53 But, I mean, if you process that contract, not as Drew, because I agree. Making bowls every year has been good for this program. But if you process that contract as we give you five times to miss bowls, which is what that really is, and we will still pay you $9 million to miss bowls for five years, it starts to look a lot worse. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Mitch needed to give big raises to Cal and Stoops when he did, but maybe lost at the negotiating table on some of the specifics, like the buyouts having to pay it in 60 days. I mean, I'm totally fine with the amount of money he made, and I was totally fine with it being a five-year deal. But in hindsight, that thing where he always got a free year if he made a ball was a huge mistake. That really was probably a huge mistake.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Who's next? The Italian Stallion is next. I'm not calling you that, but go ahead. Hey, fellas, this is the Italian Stallion. But I want to be calling for my infamous Kentucky. Hello? Just go ahead. I wanted to share my infamous Kentucky athlete, and let me set the scene for his infamous
Starting point is 00:27:06 moment. 2017, Kentucky's trying to snap the 30-game losing streak to the Gators. I'm in Croger Field. Complete collapse in the fourth quarter. We'll do a two-possession lead, but we're driving with one minute left. Charles Walker makes an amazing fourth-down conversion, and Benny Snow breaks free on the next play. He puts him at the 20 and would have given McGinnis a chip shot to win it. But a Nick Haynes hole brings it back, and I had a mental breakdown in Cudor Field.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Well, we mentioned this exact one the other day. We mentioned that, yeah, and I don't think it was Nick Haynes. It was Bunchy Stallings, yeah, who was otherwise, don't throw Nick Haynes under the bus. It was Bunchy Stallings. You know, who was an all-in-old. Nick Haynes, 2017. All right, well, I'm not going to argue with you. I appreciate the call.
Starting point is 00:27:56 But nevertheless, that was a, it was a tickey tack holding call. And we didn't even need it. I think it was on the other side of the play. Like it was, it was like behind him. Benny had already gone by. That was a bad one. Yeah, the replay did not help it. It didn't have to be called.
Starting point is 00:28:10 It did not need to be called at all. And they ended up and that made that street go a little bit longer. It was a fun football conversation today. Yeah. By the way, Shannon, you see that back there on that TV. Today is the Royal Ascot. Do you know what that is? No.
Starting point is 00:28:24 That's like the British version of the Kentucky Derby is, I think it's today. And it's called the Royal Ascot. I know this only because Max always wanted to watch it. But the thing is, look at the guys in the tuck. They wear, everyone there wears those top hats. Yeah, you can see them. You see that? So, like, the people even who walk the horse out, they're not just wearing like Keenland shirts or Churchill shirt.
Starting point is 00:28:48 They're wearing top hats and, like, tuxedos. The long coat tell. And they, yeah, they wear them. This is a wild event. I mean, we do the derby up, but this is kind of crazy what they do for the Royal Alaska. I mean, look at that. That's just everyone there is wearing a top hat. It's like a uniform that everybody has to wear.
Starting point is 00:29:06 And imagine you have to be behind a guy on a hat. Of course, we're wearing that. Look, they're cleaning the horses wearing top hats. I want to go. I kind of like it. I'd wear a monocle. We'll take a break. Be right back here at Mike's Landing.
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Starting point is 00:30:58 they would have been able to leave and owe nothing. And if we want him to leave, we have to pay him. You know, again, there's a lot of things to praise Mitch Barnhart about. I think he's overall been a very positive athletic director. You might be able to, Drew, complain a little bit about his negotiation skill on some of these deals. Not to the other extent. If the coach leaves, he'd get blamed so you're kind of between a rock and a hard place. Yeah, he had to take care of them to keep them.
Starting point is 00:31:24 They were both kind of at their peak. But I said, I think he lost some of the details there at the end with the coaches not having to pay their part. Really got bailed out by not having two of these issues at the exact same time, really, if Tyson had to save this time. Yeah, we still owe Tyson quite a bit for that at Arkansas. Trent Noah said that Mark Pope told him to gain 18 pounds this summer. Shannon, you think he can gain 18 pounds this summer?
Starting point is 00:31:49 You don't want it to just be in fat. That's the saying. to be 18 pounds of muscle. I've done that the last month and a half. It's not hard, Trent. He's got to get in the gym and start hitting it hard. I mean, yeah, you get it gained 18 pounds of fat to sit around eating twinkies and ho-hoes all day. Well, he had a little bit of, like, kind of baby fat on him a little bit.
Starting point is 00:32:06 So hopefully maybe he can get that top of 18 pounds is a tough thing to gain in a summer. A lot of muscle. That is a lot of muscle. Now, when you're younger, it's easier than when you're our age to put on that. But you think Trent, no one can put on 18 pounds of muscle? We've seen a lot of bodies transform over the years in that weight room over there in the UK, so it's possible. But we're talking about between now and November. I mean, that's not that long.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Well, I mean, I think it was from March to November. It was not that right now. It was basically, you know, eight months. If I tell you to do that in a year, though, that's tough. Right now he's losing it because Pope brought out the old school conditioning this week. Yeah, so what about that? He's doing. Pope is going back to Rick Patino conditioning, where they do the, you know, the first practice you just
Starting point is 00:32:49 run back and forth. You know, it's a different time. I mean, when Petino did it, he inherited a team that you can go back to look at the picture. It was a little doughy. I don't know that our guys are very doughy now, but do you like the intense conditioning like that? I wonder if he did what Patino used to do, put trash can strategically located out there on the floor because there was a lot of people hurling into them by the end of the day. I think guys are in general in better shape nowadays than they were then.
Starting point is 00:33:15 You got to remember those teams back then were pressing, though, nearly 40 minutes a game. So it's a lot different if you're not going to press. It is a lot different. This team, the more I hear about this team and talk to people around the program, you know, I was at Memorial Coliseum a few days ago, I don't think we're going to be crazy athletic. I mean, this is going to be the most athletic Kentucky team. Probably since Fox Monk, bam.
Starting point is 00:33:40 I mean, that's going to be the, this is going to be a very, very athletic group of guys. And defense was an issue at times last year. I don't know that's going to be a problem. problem this year. They'll probably be top 15 defensive team. I can't wait for a lineup that has like Aberdeen Oway Diabate and if Quaintance is fully healthy blocking shots or even remember the Oklahoma game last year where Brandon Garrison was switching out on guards. I mean they've got some really good locked down defenders. And don't forget I'm as guilty as anybody of forgetting the best defender on the team when he gets healthy will be Jaden Quaintens. I mean Jaden Quaintens was was like
Starting point is 00:34:15 you know he is a top five it player defamation. defensively in the NBA, like top five projected pick defense. Like he is, we're not, we just kind of look over him. You mentioned him the other day, but we kind of look over him defensively. He was all world last year defensively. And when you get him on the back end on defense, that's going to be great. Kind of got that Nirlins timing too. I watched the highlight.
Starting point is 00:34:40 That's a good. That's a good amount. Arizona State. And he got some. I'm sure he's got the length, but there's some he just wasn't supposed to get. And the timing was perfect on him. Yeah, that Nirlens, Noel. the thing that made him so good is he, his timing, and he was seven feet, whatever,
Starting point is 00:34:55 but his timing was unbelievable. Quaintance has that too, and that's just instinct, and he is really, really good at it. Who's next? Tony is up next. Tony, go ahead, Tony. Good morning, guys. How are we doing? Doing great.
Starting point is 00:35:12 First a shout-out for me, and then I want to make a point about your year from the championship coming up. with all due respect to Lake Cumberland, and I've spent a lot of time on Cumberland because I played basketball and went to college at Somerset for three years. You are at the most beautiful lake, not only in the state of Kentucky, but in the eastern part of the United States. Do you all agree with that?
Starting point is 00:35:39 And Mike Landing and Cropa Creek are one of the paroles of Dale Hall. I will say this. I actually, I agree with you on that, and I've spent a lot of time. I really was not familiar with. with Del Hollow until we started doing KSR. We started doing a couple places close to Monticello and then here.
Starting point is 00:35:57 This is in Kentucky. There's the one, what's the one out on the western? There's a one in the western part I think is also beautiful. But I do believe this is the most beautiful lake in Kentucky. This is a gorgeous place with the settings and all that. So I agree with you sir. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Well, you don't know and you don't know what you've missed, Matt, because I've been going to Del Hollow for over 60 years. So believe me, and I've been to a lot of lakes. to go to go to them with the championship year. I think a lot of people are selling this team short right now. Now, I'll give you 2015, but you just hit on it. If Quaidance comes back healthy and is close to 100%, this could be as deep and as talented and athletic a team as Kentucky has had in many years.
Starting point is 00:36:45 And my championship year will be 2026, along with the foul four. I love it. Look, there's no, I appreciate the call. I mean, let's just, let's just use singularly drew depth, okay? 2015's going to be the deepest team we'll ever have. I mean, we had, you know, that, what, we have, eight, nine guys to get, to get, I mean, like, that's going to be the deepest team we ever have. But put them aside, when's the last time we, if everybody reaches their potential, okay, and everybody's got to reach the potential. But if everybody reaches their potential, when's the last time we've had a team as deep as this besides 2015? In a while, Cal never really built him this deep. He had star power, but you're 96?
Starting point is 00:37:30 96. 96 what I was going to say. Cal's 9th and 10th guys weren't playing much. You're going to have probably a McDonald's All-American and a 4-star at like 12 and 13 on this roster. Now, what this team does not have that 96 and 2015 did is the star power at the top, right? Ryan, I mean, 96 had Antoine Walker, Ron Mercer, Derek Anderson,
Starting point is 00:37:57 2015 has the number one overall picking the draft, Carl Towns, lottery picking Devin Booker, lottery picking Trey Liles. I don't think this team has that. But they do have like a 12th man who could start at most schools in America. When we talk about this team, we don't mention hardly ever, Cam Williams or Yelovich, two guys that may be starters at some point during this season. They are so deep at every position except for the one thing I worry about is point guard. If we have a problem at point guards again, a guy gets hurt, what are we going to do then? But we're not.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Jalen Lowe's going to be great. I put my, you know, every year, Shannon, I put my stock in somebody. Yep, yeah. I had huge Antonio Reeve stock, and then he became a first team All-American, right? I had Dillingham stock, and while Kyle never started him, he ended up being great. Last year I had Jackson Robinson stock kind of stayed even. Didn't go, didn't go away. My stock is all on Jalen Lowe this year.
Starting point is 00:39:01 I mean, he's got, first of all, we need it. But secondly, I also think it's going to be, it's going to run. Yeah, I think so. If this team is going to be great, he has to be great too. So, you know, it's going to be a transition going from where he was at Pittsburgh, to the SEC, but I think he's going to be very service. The Jaylen Lowe great moments at Pitt were superstar Walter Clayton Jr. moments. Now, he was much more inconsistent.
Starting point is 00:39:30 So if you can make it to where you take some of that inconsistency away, Drew, you can have a superstar. And we just have to trust that he's going from a system that was not helpful for him, a team that wasn't very good. We won't really know until he gets out there. how he'll play with four good players around him and hope that's going to be taken care of him with one of the better offenses in the country. That can completely clean up his inconsistencies
Starting point is 00:39:52 and kind of smaller shooting percentages of what you wanted to see last year. Tell me about Stockton Mortgage. Stockton Mortgage, you know, it's always a great time to buy and right now it might be a good time to do a little cash out refinance. Maybe you want to buy one of these new pontoon boats we're seeing behind us on the lake.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Okay. Dr. Mortgage, cash out refinance, use that money. I don't know how to do it. Buy and invest in your pontoon future. And Stockton mortgage can help you air along the way. I don't know if they can't do pontoons, but why not. House boats. House boats?
Starting point is 00:40:15 Yeah. A lot of people will live on their house boats. They just say they can. I'm sure they can. Stockton mortgage, NMLS 8259, equal housing lender. That's right. You know, somebody offered just a minute ago to take us on the boat next year. I would love to consistently go on a boat, but I can't own one because I don't know what you do.
Starting point is 00:40:29 You need a friend that has one. Well, I need a friend and I need somebody to drive it. Can you drive the boat? I got you. Well. I think you can handle it. The steering wheel and a gas. Yeah, but then you have to, yeah, I can't do.
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Starting point is 00:44:22 podcasts. Welcome back. It is the final segment here. Kentucky Sports Radio live and Sulphur Creek. Thank you, sir, over there on your boat. Appreciate it. Sulphur Creek Resort, Kentucky Office of Highway Safety, KSR Safe Summer Driving Tour, has brought us to Cumberland County, Sulphur Creek.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Mike's Landing, Floating Restaurant and Lounge. They've been awesome to host us. and we have had a really good day. You were just, you had a good idea. You know, everybody's like kind of mocking online, the idea of motivated Mark Stoops. They should just lean into it, right? Oh, I should.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Yeah, I just lean into it. Just say, I'm motivated and it'll be making a thing. I know sometimes we think Twitter's the whole fan base. It's a small portion, but motivated Mark Stoops is huge on Twitter. Yeah, it is. I just saw another graphic. He just needs to tweet motivated. Just lean into it.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Just tweet one word, motivated. That's all he'd have to do. All right, I got a question for you. I always like to make you all the governing body, the legislature. Okay. We saw what happened in Minnesota last week, and the tragedy of the guy goes to the legislator's house, kills the woman, tries to kill another one. In Minnesota, there's a state law, there are some talk about proposing a state law.
Starting point is 00:45:33 You know, all of our, if you buy a house, it's public record who owns the house, the name it's in. So there's two different proposals. Would you vote for one of the... these, both of these, or neither of these. Proposal one would be to say that all people have a right to not have available on public record searches that they own a house. That basically, who owns a house, the government will know, but it's not available for private searches that you can find online. That's number one. Number two would be, even if you don't want that, for government leaders for their privacy who are in positions of controversy, they would have the option to not
Starting point is 00:46:17 have their houses listed where you could just look where Mitch McConnell lives or whatever. Or number three, be like it is now everybody's house you can find. You're in charge, Shannon. What should be the law? I think we should have the right to privacy to where people cannot look up where you live. I'll tell you because I'm sick and tired of getting notes and foreign money sent to my house, which has been going on for the last five years. Maybe you're sick of it.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Yes. I thought people you liked it. I don't. Who said I liked it? You liked it. No. I don't know. It's funny is I don't know your address.
Starting point is 00:46:50 So I certainly not me. Apparently it's not hard to find because I even moved houses and now it's following to the new house. So I would say I think that stuff should be private. So you think there should be, everyone should be able to buy a house and you don't know who buys? Yeah. I don't like that. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:47:04 I completely agree. It should be private. Nobody needs to know where people are living. This isn't back in the day. We just get the first. phone book and have everyone's address and phone number in your hand. I think it should be completely private. I mean, I'm a realtor. I'm in the business of buying and selling houses, and I think this is the stupidest thing that we can look online and say who the name of any house we want to.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Why do you need to know? Why do I need to know? What does anybody need to know? I think, I've always thought that was stupid. Well, okay, so the rationale, and I'm not, I generally agree with you all, but the rationale is you pay a problem. tax, right? You pay a tax. As such, your land is, the reason it is Shannon's land is that the state says it's your land, right? If the state didn't say it, it would only be yours if you could fight everybody off, right? So because the state, our taxpayers are making sure Shannon's land is Shannon's land, that's why people have an access to it. So it's not like your, your television, because the state isn't making sure you own that television they are making sure you own that land so does that have any appeal to you at all no i mean i thought i'm not being like on record but i don't think that should be public is what i'm saying it's like medical records you have records but they're not public i think the house should be the same way yeah i'm not i kind of agree with you but i'm saying that's why it's like
Starting point is 00:48:31 that is because ultimately the only reason you own that land is because the state says you do so that's why they do stupid all right there you go Who's up there? Sir, what's your counter opinion? Stupid. All right. What's next? How do you argue that?
Starting point is 00:48:46 Yeah, that's when you can't. Go ahead. All right. Matt is up. Rick, like that. Matt, go ahead, Matt. Hey, guys. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Hey, I'm sitting out my garden and I'm reading my book, R. Appalachia, while I listen to you guys. Yes. And I want to read a sentence real quick from it. Read the sentence. It reminds me of you guys. Okay. All right. Sharing is a way of life in the mountains and appropriately the essence of our Appalachia.
Starting point is 00:49:18 And that's what you guys do. You all share your house life and information and great stories. Not where they live, Gordon-Shed. I love it. I just love it. And that's what we do in Appalachia. You know, this is multiple Fridays in a row now. You've been on right at the end of the show and said something very kind,
Starting point is 00:49:38 and I really appreciate it. Thank you very much. We appreciate it. You know, driving, like doing these shows all around the state, it can be hard sometimes because we're in the car a lot and we're going all over, but I do love it. I mean, like coming to a place like this and seeing people and we've see some faces that have been here all three years we've been here.
Starting point is 00:49:57 It's one of my favorite things to do. Ryan, I know you love that as well. And we get to discover new places. Like we didn't know this one of the down here. And it's one of the most beautiful places in our state. So thanks to Mark, we helped kind of set it up. Grandma Sarah's here. here with a lot of familiar faces we get to see every year i i do like when you this summer if you
Starting point is 00:50:13 have a weekend this summer whether it's mike's landing here at sulfur creek or somewhere you you can use the book i wrote as an example but you can also find online you there are so many cool places in kentucky that you would never think to go if you're just like well i only want to go to a city or i only want to go just take a weekend put the 120 counties on a in a in a bowl draw one and there'll be something you could do in that place that would be cool. And it gives you a chance to see the area. Everybody always goes to Destin or they go like I do to New York. There are places you could go in Kentucky where there's stuff like this that is gorgeous.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Let's do one more. Who's next? Randy is next. Randy. Go ahead, Randy. Yes, I'm a Mark Stoves fan and I hope he can somehow land the plane. but if he doesn't could he be fired for cause for paying us on probation forfeiting his victory no no they generally speaking you got about shut down a program to be
Starting point is 00:51:21 able to be paid for cause you got to get like so losing some victories just doesn't do it no because if that were the case and I appreciate the call then the for cause clause would mean almost nothing if it could so generally speaking you got a You got to do what Rick Petino did to be fired for cause. And Rick Petino even got some money out of it. So, you know, it's hard to fire people for cause. So can we bring some? For cause is like you personally did something to embarrass the university.
Starting point is 00:51:48 You committed a crime or something. It tends to not be your job performance. Thank you all very much here at Mike's Landing at Sulfur Creek. We appreciate it. It was awesome here. Beautiful. Thanks to Mike and all those folks. Everyone in Kentucky, have a great weekend.
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