KSR - 2025-07-09- KSR - Hour 1

Episode Date: July 9, 2025

Matt, Ryan, Drew, and Shannon talk fan vibes for the UK Football team, Ryan's upcoming donut-eating challenge, and take your calls.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:02:38 This is Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones. Welcome, everyone, Kentucky Sports Radio Wednesday, July 9th. I'm Matt Jones here and Lexie to Kentucky on a very rainy day. You can give us a shout at Clark's Puppet Shop phone line 859-280-2287. A-Vision Auto Glass Text Machine is 772-7524 in this edition, sponsored by the T.J. Smith Law Office. You call T.J. I'll make them pay. Drew, we've already been, had our minds blown at 10.04 a.m. I wish we had been on the air at 10.01 a.m. when we were talking to Ryan here.
Starting point is 00:03:12 So, Ryan, what is it your drinking right here? Well, my initial drink was the ice coffee from McDonald's. It's a great way to start your day. But this is your second one. So I came in, I went in the break room to get some water. I thought I'd need to get some water for the show. That's healthy. And I saw the coffee machine there. I'll just have another coffee. You made another ice coffee. I made coffee imported in my ice. And did you put cream? No, just straight, whatever those little packets are they make in there.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Those are flavored. They're flavored. That's not the color of coffee. No, they're flavored. It's a... So basically, right, and then he told us he'd had a croissant sandwich from Speedway. We looked up, and, Shannon, it is 10.04 a.m. Or now 10.05.
Starting point is 00:03:55 And he has already eaten 1,000 calories. My guy's calorie loading. He's training for the big day on Friday. he's got to eat. You're only supposed to have 2,000 calories in a day. I'm going to guess this isn't like, I'm going to guess that the rest of the meals are going to be around this pace. I respect that he's training. That's a lot of calories, though, by 10 a.m. Well, you know, I pulled in to get gas this morning and the croissant sandwiches smelled good. I got to have one of those. Which kind did you get? I have the menu pulled up with nutrition.
Starting point is 00:04:22 The bacon, egg and cheese. Yep, that's the one I have pulled up. How much is it? It's 320 calories. It's actually less than I would have thought. much less than I thought. So now we're, slightly under a thousand. So you're at 920 calories by 10 a. See, I got a lot of wiggle room down the rest of the day. Yeah. Well, for people who say, okay, so I went to dinner last night with my
Starting point is 00:04:41 parents. They were in town. Which nice. A saw a picture. You and Larry was awesome. We actually ate a late dinner. 515. That is late. That is late for them. 515. I could tell when I suggested 515, my mom was like,
Starting point is 00:04:55 all right now, you're going to have his yawning. We walked into the restaurant. there were like three people at that time of day. They were rolling silverware and opening the restaurant. No, but it's good. Restaurants like when you come at that time because you're out and then they can get these people who actually eat dinner. Early bird specials.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Exactly. So we were there. It was very nice. They drove up here. I had a picture with Larry. I posted. Did you like that? It's a great picture.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Larry looks like he is in his 40s. It's amazing how well he looks. Yeah. And he's 88. It's amazing. Amazing. So, yeah, we were sitting there. And then my mom.
Starting point is 00:05:29 You know, you can, I can tell when my mom has like something to say because she doesn't, you know, how some people will wait until the conversation gets going. My mom will not. My mom goes, okay. Now, this is not me staying in my lane, which I've never told her she had to stay in her lane. But she said this is not me staying in my lane. But I'm going to side with the ladies of KSR. I don't think you should make Ryan eat the donuts.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Now, Shannon, I want to be clear. I'm not making him do anything. No, we're not force feeding him. No. And you have, and I'm going to give you this opportunity right now, you have the chance to back out of this. I, this is, you are a grown man. People act like that I'm his father. He is 27 years older.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Okay, like he has, he has the ability. He has the ability. ability to do whatever he wants. And I said to my mom, I'm like, you know, he has the ability here to do what he wants. It's for the show. And she was like, I understand the show, but you shouldn't make him do it. And I said, I'm not making him do anything. So I want to be clear here on the nation's airways.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Yes. I am not making you do this. If you would like to let the sit the state down and back out of it. The pressure is on, though. If you would like to back out of it, that is totally fine. I think you've covered yourself when I die of a heart attack. No, no, stop that. I don't want to hear that because that's not, none of us want that.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Zero liability here. Just to get zero liability. This isn't even just about liability. You're a free man in the United States. I want you to feel like if you don't want to do it, you don't have to, you're the one that suggested it. But if you don't want to do it, you don't have to do it. I just said I can eat 10 donuts in 10 minutes. Which is exactly what.
Starting point is 00:07:29 we're saying we're not asking you eat 20. So I'm even giving you 15 minutes so that we so that you have time to digest. I'm going into it with the attitude. If I do it, great. If I don't, great. Just have some fun with it, man. So you are going to do it. I'm going to try it.
Starting point is 00:07:44 I know you say to Karen Blondell that you're doing it out of your own free will. Karen, I'm doing it because Matt has a gun to my head right now. You can't do that. She thinks that I'm like somehow pressuring you to do it. Isn't it crazy? Like every guy I talk to or text me all for it. Yes. Every female. Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Every female, especially the ones that are of a motherly. Yes. Or like grandmotherly age. Totally agree with that. Those are the ones that are, they're protective of you. They act sometimes, Drew, like he's the youngest person on the show. And he has over a decade on all of us. And they act like he is the one that needs to be protected.
Starting point is 00:08:28 find that fascinating. He does need to be protected a little bit. You just heard what he ate for breakfast. And that's half the challenge. But he is the oldest person here. He's also the only person that has grown children. Shannon. Like he is without question on paper. Yeah. He went to a college orientation yesterday. The most mature person here. Ryan's a man child. He always has been. We got to protect him and take care of. Ryan, you can opt out if you want to. We gave him the change. If you want to opt out, now's the time. Here's would be my message to the later. of the Facebook page Bonnet Bridge.
Starting point is 00:09:01 It's all for fun, man. I'm not going to go out there and try to make myself miserable. It's for fun. We're going to have fun with it. If somebody has a heart attack, then it's not fun. Would you stop with the heart attacks?
Starting point is 00:09:09 That's not what that's not going to happen. I don't think you can hear enough to get to that point. Here's the other thing. I agree. I had dozens, maybe as much up to 50 of people write me that want to give money, but they're like,
Starting point is 00:09:25 only if he takes it. They're like, I'll give money to charity on my own. So if we do that, this is the masses here. And people like charity. But this is the masses. And they say they want Ryan because they want to like show you the entertainment they've given them over the years, which I think is actually very nice, true. Yeah. As you said yesterday, I believe they're paying for entertainment.
Starting point is 00:09:50 And what's more entertaining than Ryan Lemon? Yes. And then, you know, I'm going on, I'm on vacation next week. So this is a good send way to sort of show people that you will be a professional. while I'm gone while you eat all of these. We're going to send you off to heaven. Shannon, I'll do the show next week. Shannon, you ready?
Starting point is 00:10:08 Yeah, I'm ready. Donuts this week. Tell me, is anybody heard from Jeff's donuts? Actually, Brandon here at Iheart has reached out on our behalf. Okay. Are they not like, I'm not heard. I'm not giving, I mean, if they're not interested in joining, that's fine. But like, do they not, I mean, this, we're not asking them for anything except to like
Starting point is 00:10:28 be appreciative. I mean, I'm sure there's other donut places that would love to do it. I just did it because they did the contest. Brandon, I think, that's his account. So he was going to kind of check with it and get it worked out. All right. We're waiting for a reply. We'll find out what you hear about that.
Starting point is 00:10:43 But I'm excited about it. It's also swimming pool day. So that makes it that comment. I was out cleaning up the pool, getting it ready for you last night, getting everything all set up. Yeah. And you'll have to do it again after all the glaze is everywhere. It is Ask Anything Wednesday. So you can ask any question.
Starting point is 00:11:00 859-280-2287. Lines are open. Ask anything Wednesday. This is your chance to call in with whatever. It is also, Drew, Mark's, Mark Stoop's birthday. Oh, okay. Happy birthday. Does anybody, can anybody guess what his age is? He's close to my age. I'm going to say he's 58. I'm going to say 58. How old is Mark Sto? 56. Drew? I looked this up recently. I already know the answer. I believe Ryan is accurate.
Starting point is 00:11:27 He turns today 58 years old. So 58 years old. Three weeks ago or so when Vince Merrow left, I think it's fair to say that was the nadir of the Mark Stoops era in terms of like good vibes that were not existent. Correct. Maybe as low a vibes as you could have had. Now three weeks later, they've gotten a bunch of recruits,
Starting point is 00:11:55 got a huge quarterback thing. You know, there's, we're now moving closer to the season. We're like seven weeks away from the season. Do you think the vibes are, have they improved at all? I mean, do you think if I, if I done an approval rating and last three weeks ago, it would have been X, do you think it would be at all higher now? I'll give it a few decimals. maybe just a small percentage.
Starting point is 00:12:26 I don't think there's really much as change for next season what's right in front of us. But the addition of a top 10 quarterback that knows your circumstances, if he sees potential in the future, it's got to give you a little bit of hope. At least it does for me. It doesn't change how I feel about this upcoming September. But it does let me know that the staff hasn't just checked out
Starting point is 00:12:45 and they're riding this out to the end, whatever happens. If to go out and get Ponatocke and some of these others, they're really doing a good job for the on-pass this upcoming season. season. Brian? I think it has. I think it's ticked up a little bit. I mean, back in April and May, I was convinced they were going to win more than four
Starting point is 00:12:59 games. And I said then, I'm going to talk myself into it by the time the season starts. I'm already talking myself into. They got a chance to win six games. What are you talking yourself into? They're going to win more than I thought they would back in April and May. Okay. So now are you up to five games?
Starting point is 00:13:13 I think I'm up to five. Okay. Yeah. Just the good vibes that have been happening in the last month or so. Good vibes will win your games. Yeah, but like what? That's why I was, literally my topic here is football vibes. What are the vibes?
Starting point is 00:13:27 I think like Drew said, just the plethora of recruits that have kind of committed already. But none of them are playing this year. No, but just that it just gives me some good vibes. If they believe in the program. Is there any vibe positive about next year's team? Yes. I think our defense is going to be really good. But what has changed?
Starting point is 00:13:45 I've always thought the defense is going to be good, but I'm letting myself believe the defense is curious. I'll tell you what, you used to be on WLAX-18. Give me like 20 seconds if someone out there wants to know the UK defense is going to be good. And don't just list a bunch of names. Explain why you think they'll be good. I think they'll be good because Mark Stoops is a defensive coach. And I think he's been really ticked off how the defense has played in recent years.
Starting point is 00:14:10 So he's made an effort to shore it up. Get rid of some old guys up front. I wasn't putting any effort. He went out and got some guys in the transfer portal. He's got some good returning guys coming back. I think he's putting together a defense that can help you stay in the game. and the offense starts to score points, but the defense is going to help you stay in the game.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Back to you, Alan. Okay, but I mean, that was, you didn't really say anything. Well, that's what I was doing TV. You don't really say anything. You see a lot of words without saying that. Listen, I had a news director say, no, just enough to fake it.
Starting point is 00:14:39 But you didn't say anything of knowledge. Oh, yeah, that he brought in good. I could have said that same thing about anything. Well, that's true, but sometimes you have good days. Sometimes you have bad days. Sometimes you're up, sometimes you're down. Yeah, well, All right, Drew, do you want to add to that at all?
Starting point is 00:14:56 Now for the weather. No. With the defense, you have a lot of your secondary back. You do. Except the one that was a first round pick. But there's some experience, some veterans, your Ty Bryant, your JQ Hardaway's. If they can take another big step forward, that's a good sign for the back end. I think they did well in the portal for the defensive line.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Linebacker, we're going to have to see. They're all pretty new. Defari, what he does in that role. But then offensively, I think the offensive line is going to be much improved, and they can change the entire offense. But if they're not, I'm worried about everything else. It all offensively comes down the offensive line. And I do think they have proved that pretty well.
Starting point is 00:15:36 I do think the offensive line will be better. But that's in part because it couldn't have been worse. And Calzada, I don't care if he walks out there barefoot. He's got to be better than Brock Vandigriff last year. I mean, that did not go well. And that's not all on Vandigriff. But, I mean, there hasn't been a worse quarterback in Kentucky, at least for how it went. It wasn't all on him because he was getting beat up.
Starting point is 00:15:57 But Calzata has to be better than that. I think Jagger's going to move back to center. I think they like what they got to have at guards. I think Jagger's moving back to center. I think that'll help him up the middle a little bit. All right. Well, I mean, those are vibes. Good vibes.
Starting point is 00:16:13 I want to be excited. I do. I want to be excited. I want to when we go into that first game against Toledo. be, you know, breaking tables and throwing spears. But like, I don't, I'm not there. Yeah. And I want to be there.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Usually at this time of me there, I'm there. Usually I'm making the video of, okay, we can do this. I'm not there yet. Maybe we'll get there. 859-280-2287. Text machine is 772-7525-4. It's Ask Anything Wednesday. We'll take a break.
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Starting point is 00:20:56 I think Ryan can do the donut challenge, not sure what everybody's worried about. There you go. See, that's the kind of positivity I like to hear. I think you can do it too. Another person writes, I'm a woman with kids. Don't understand the big deal about the donut challenge. You got this, Ryan. I'll contribute. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Another person says, Ryan or any other person on this show should not do anything until Matt man's up and does a challenge of some sort. Ooh, a lot of people saying that. What's your challenge can be? My challenge is making this show go on the air every day with topics that are entertaining 10 plus hours a week. You did a challenge. You did the soccer ball challenge.
Starting point is 00:21:32 You kicked soccer ball to the... Yeah, I mean, I didn't succeed, but I did it. You did it. Yeah. No, look, I'm... Everybody has a role. I come in here prepared. Ryan eats donuts.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Everyone has a role, Drew, and then that's the way it is. I sit here and giggle. I like my role. That's exactly right. One person says, I'm boycotting on Friday. I won't be listening. I don't think this is fair to ride. We'll miss you.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Oh, please. It's not fair to Ryan. The guy's going to get paid thousands of dollars to sit there and eat donuts. So you think this is like, he's went. Here's a thing. If he gets more money than I did to walk 50 miles, I'm going to be really heated. I don't think he's going to get more. but I think there's going to be, I think it's going to be, I mean, I don't know what it's going to be.
Starting point is 00:22:20 I've never been good at guessing the amount of money we were going to do for things, but I think it'll be over $1,000. Yeah. Probably. I mean, everybody feels bad for Ryan. He's got poor Ryan. He's got to eat those glazed donuts what we ever do. I mean, sitting by the pool. People sitting by the pool on a Friday.
Starting point is 00:22:36 At his house. Probably wearing what he slept in. Yes. One person writes, man, I'm agree with your mom. Seems like you're making Ryan do it. your relationship with ride comes across like a bully in high school. Okay, come on. Big bully.
Starting point is 00:22:54 I mean, you are a lot older than me. You hit to stop. Like, it is a mutually beneficial bully relationship. You put him in the locker with love. That's exactly right. It's like, well, you know, it's like Shade Gillis and his one friend. What's that guy's name? Yeah, the heavier guy.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Yeah, the little short guy. A little short guy. He's a little short guy. He's a little short guy. He's a little chunky guy. Like, it's you. What people don't know is during the hour break where we have the longer window, you go give Ryan a swirly here in the I heard that thing. They were just constantly picking on it.
Starting point is 00:23:32 I've always been a big bully. Like, I wasn't, nah, I wasn't the guy that got beat up. I was the bully growing up. It has asked anything Wednesday. Let's get started with doing good, doing good. Morning gentlemen. I'm doing good. hope you're doing well.
Starting point is 00:23:48 I think we are overreacting to Ryan a little bit. I listen to the show for a long time. I think Ryan was just sitting back saying, hey, if you're going to have some free donuts, this will be awesome. I just eat one or two and enjoy ourselves with a big smile on his face. I hope that's what he's going to do. I think that's what he thinks he'll do that,
Starting point is 00:24:07 and then he's going to see that amount of money that's in that GoFund me, and he's going to go, all right, well, I could do. I might be able to get there. I know it. I know what's good. I know what drives it. Well, I tried my own challenge yesterday morning, and I didn't get the big donuts.
Starting point is 00:24:25 I just got the crispy creams. The first two went down within like the first 60 seconds. Like, this is easy. By the time the Swarthen went down, my head was shaking like Max Hedgeron, and I didn't know where I was. Ryan, if you are seriously considering doing this, please don't.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Dude, the amount of sugar that's going to hit your body is don't. I'm one of the guys, I guess. Hang up, hang up. I was feeling okay until I heard that. Hang up. That was not positive. Let me read you a different one. What person writes, I am a doctor. I thought about this. Ryan can handle this easily. It's just a matter if he can handle the bread in his stomach. Of course, that's a big deal. That's a lot. Look, you should see, as far as the sugar part, you should see his drinks. Yeah, the sugar is not the thing for me. It's the bread. the bread. The sugar, he's used to it. By the way, we are going to do that wing tasting night for people, you can put it on your calendar.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Okay, I got to put it in my calendar. It is July, the, uh, July the 31st. Okay. We'll be our KS bar wing test. We're going to bring out all the various sauces and let people tell us which ones are better. It'll go on sale probably tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:25:41 So, uh, and we're only doing like 75 people. So the KS bar wing test. If you want to come in, it'll be like, I think it's going to be like 20 bucks or something. And you can come and it's all these wings. I won't say, not all you can eat, but we'll give you a ton of them. And you can help us figure out what. So that's July the 31st. You can tell people you're part of the KS bar sauce committee. Well, yeah, you are, you're one of our culinary specialist. Yeah, there you go. Right. You can put that on your resume.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Shannon. We also, yes, we did our whole calendar for the bar opening. We've got a date. Shannon's going to play KS bar with Alice Bluegown. Nice. We got all kinds of cool things coming up, but that's the first thing. It's July 31st for those people who want to know. Colton, go ahead, Colton. If y'all did the Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest, how many hot dogs do you think y'all could eat? Oh, no, one. That's, to me, that is the grossest thing.
Starting point is 00:26:40 It is so gross, watch, especially when the water is going down their face, and it's just, it's, I find that, I mean, it's kind of, like, I get it, that it's, like, I get it. that it was a cool thing and it's cool to be like, oh, this is Americana. It's also, to me, Shannon, flat, disgusting to watch. I find it just, it was on during the show yesterday. I find it repulsive. I do too, but it's one of those things you just can't look away from. It's like a train wreck. You don't want to see it.
Starting point is 00:27:08 I can look away from it. I can't stop watching it. And they just like, I think there's something about them, Drew, dipping it in the water and they're just water and dog going down their face. It's just gross. It's for the sport. I could do that. I mean, I couldn't do as many as they do.
Starting point is 00:27:22 But if I'm in the moment, I'm dipping in the water. You're not there to enjoy it. You're there. But I mean, I'm talking about the people watching. I can't. I mean, it's just. They're doing two or three at a time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:34 They've got a fistful of dogs. And the crowd's cheering them on and they're dripping all over their face. I had to turn my back to the screen yesterday we had in that. I genuinely find it to be one of the worst. It's the equivalent of like being at a Tennessee. C game in terms of just all the nastiness around and the sweat and it's just yeah they'll throw the mustard for the dogs and the mustard that's exactly right it does get a little weird when they get a big handful of the dogs and just start like chomping them all at once I have like four of them in their
Starting point is 00:28:05 hand it's it's gross by the way I don't we don't have to spend a lot of time on it but they did find a guilty verdict in that Crystal Rogers case yeah I would surprise you well I nobody nobody no crime scene really no evidence no physical evidence No murder weapon. And they recommended the max. Yeah. Yeah. And the jury did not take long at all.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Surprising. Four hours. I mean, it's surprising. I mean, I think everybody thinks that guy had something to do with it. But how could you prove it? There was no proof. And there were people who were in the courtroom who said that they went into it, assuming he'd be found guilty.
Starting point is 00:28:41 And after hearing the trial, we're like, there's no way they can convict. And then they did. They did. So. I don't think they'd ever would have convicted any of me if those other two guys didn't. that they didn't link those other two guys. Yeah. Well, I don't, I, I, I, I, he should never talk to the police because his lies is what
Starting point is 00:28:58 ended up getting him convicted. Yeah, they just kept, his lies kept contradicting each other. But, uh, you think the family feels better now? But downtown Bartown was a celebration last night. I think everybody feels great. Oh, really? It was a celebration. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:12 They were lining the streets. Yeah. Pink. They were all in their pink shirts. T.J. Smith, personal injury attorney. Call T.J. He'll make them pay. Now, more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Welcome back, Tucky Sports Radio. My mom, you know, is a former prosecutor, and she did write in to remind me. And she's right about this. Testimony is evidence and is proof, right? It may not be definitive for some people, but it is proof. So people sometimes since like CSI and those shows that exist, they think you've got to have DNA or physical evidence. A lot of cases don't. Like a lot of cases don't have DNA. They don't have any of that. So verbal evidence is evidence and is proof. Now, whether or not it's enough for a juror to say that meets the beyond a reasonable doubt is their decision.
Starting point is 00:30:06 But sometimes like people say, well, there was no evidence. There was evidence. There might not have been physical evidence. You got to remember before 40 years ago, there was very little physical evidence in these cases, you know, because you didn't have the testing. of DNA and blood, a lot of the things you have now. I think what made even more difficult, some of the verbal evidence I think was hearsay. No. If it was, when you say it was, no, it would have only been hearsay if it got, if the judge didn't allow it. Here's, people just think hearsay is like, just somebody said something.
Starting point is 00:30:42 That's not necessarily hearsay. Hearsay is you're on the stand and you're quoting somebody else. Yeah. And for what they said, we're assuming it's true. But if a person gets up and says, I heard from X, and you're not proving the truth of what they're saying, they just say, you told me this, that's not hearsay. Hearsay has a legal definition. People act like all words are just hearsay. That's not true.
Starting point is 00:31:08 So it's using, I think the word is, using other people's language to prove the proof of the matter asserted. So let me put it like this. You come to me and say, I'm going to kill Drew. and I testify to that. Not hearsay. You come to me and said, Drew says he's going to kill Shannon. That's hearsay.
Starting point is 00:31:27 But if you tell me, and I testify, Ryan said this to me, that's not hearsay. But if you told me Drew said it, that's different. To prove Drew told Shannon he was going to kill you, Shannon has to testify to that. Does that make sense?
Starting point is 00:31:41 I'll have an AI picture of it too. And Ryan will believe it actually. So a lot of, But your misconception is a very common misconception, which is any words are hearsay. Hearsay has a legal definition. And it never even is allowed into the courtroom. Okay. So if something got testified at trial and the judge didn't strike it, it was not hearsay.
Starting point is 00:32:03 So I think that's what happened here. Yeah. Exactly. So it was not hearsay. Gotcha. Now, completely different situation. What is the death toll in Texas now? It's like some.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Well over 100. And did I see? There's like still 150. Still missing. That's the crazy part to me. Still 150 people missing. It's sad. It's nearly 300 in total between.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Nearly 300. I want to ask you all, we've praised over the years the way Andy Bashir and really all of our leaders in Kentucky have handled the various tragedies we've had. Wouldn't you agree? Oh, 100%. And I mean even the leaders in the like the Senate and House leader, Stivers and Osborne, and I think Andy Beshear, I think they've handled these. things about as well as you can and they've had a lot of them.
Starting point is 00:32:49 I had several. All right. The governor of Texas. Yeah. I don't know if I would totally agree that he did it the same way. See what you think of this. This was, he's asked by a reporter, you may not be able to hear the beginning of it, but he's asked by a reporter kind of who or what is to blame for this.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Okay? Because, you know, they didn't get the flood warnings out and there were all this. Here's what he said. You ask, I'm going to use your words. Who's to blame? know this that's the word choice of losers let me explain one thing about texas and that is texas every square inch of our state cares about football you could be in hunt texas hansville texas hussville texas husson texas any size community they care about football high school friday night lights college football
Starting point is 00:33:53 or pro and know this every football team makes mistakes the losing teams are the ones that try to point out who's to blame. The championship teams are the ones that say, don't worry about it, man, we got this. We're going to make sure that we go score again, and we're going to win this game. The way winners talk is not to point fingers. They talk about solutions.
Starting point is 00:34:16 What Texas is all about is solutions. What do we think of that? I'm disgusted by what he just said. To make light compared to a football game these little kids that have lost their lives, that guy just ruined his political career with that statement right there. First of all, why you compare it to a football game?
Starting point is 00:34:35 Winners and losers? What? This is obviously a big loss for a lot of people in your state. I mean, disgusting. Shannon, what are your thoughts? Strange comparison. I mean, of all the ways he could have taken that to compare it to a college football game is really odd. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:34:52 I mean, if I were to try to give him the best benefit of the doubt, I guess you could get up and say, rather than sitting and blaming people, we need to figure out how this doesn't happen again. That's the answer. There's a way to say that because I will say nobody wanted to see 250 people die of floods, obviously. But the football game in it. And then to go, we're in Texas. Everybody loves football. Friday night lights.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Like, what are you talking about? I mean, there are potentially 250 people dead, and you're talking about winning a football game? A lot of those people are little kids that were... There are some people who are built for moments like that, and then there are some people who are not. And like, even look at the reporter who's, they said he was from one of these small towns and go, that's loser talk. Yeah. Loser talk? I mean, you're sitting here trying...
Starting point is 00:35:53 I just, when I saw that clip, I thought, I cannot believe that the governor of a state, that would be his response to this. You have to be a leader in a situation like this. And you're like people are looking up to him to be our leader and help us get some answers. That's an unbelievable. It is. Jerry, go ahead, Jerry. Well, Matt, I have a question for you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Can you name one highly regarded four star quarterback who was recruited by other big, programs that's coming to Mark Soutes' program and been developed into a successful SEC quarterback. Yeah, probably not. I mean, the successful quarterbacks we've had were, I mean, Will Levis was successful. I don't know what he was coming out of high school, but we got him in the transfer portal. He was transfer. I know.
Starting point is 00:36:47 I know, Jerry, thank you. I would say, you know, I mean, in hindsight, I don't think Devin Leary was bad. Terry Wilson was good. Again, transfer portal. Stephen Johnson was good, transfer portal. So, yeah, I mean, I think that's a fair thing to say they haven't had one. And I think that's the biggest criticism you can make of Mark Stoops. He has not developed.
Starting point is 00:37:13 They've not, they've had, in order to get successful quarterbacks, they've had to go get guys that were developed elsewhere. And that's why I'm saying, I mean, I understand that this guy's great coming in. The guy commits here, Jerry. The guy commits here, Jerry, no, you hangar. The guy commits here, Jerry, and then so you just go, well, he's going to stink. I mean, is that the way your reaction is going to be to a high school kid committing? No, I'm saying that, well, my answer is we'll see.
Starting point is 00:37:41 I mean, because I got excited when the first kid from Northern Connect, boy, guy excited about that. He didn't go anywhere. I got excited when the kid out of Catholic came here as a four-star. He didn't go anywhere. We've got a four-star sitting over there and cutter Bowley. Okay. Look at his peers.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Okay. Arch Manning, he started. Lagway started. I mean, Arch Manning was a little bit of a different level of peer. I'm just saying, I'm just saying they're on the same level of development. All right, I appreciate to go to. Here's what I would say.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Here's what I would say. If you want to, if you want to spend your life miserable and just being upset, you and I've had, I've had a version of this conversation with Jerry. 10 times over the last 7 or 8 years. This is who you are. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:38:29 I mean, your first point about we haven't developed a high school quarterback is a completely fair point. That is a completely fair point. We haven't, really. Hopefully cutter-bowley changes that. Maybe this guy changes it. But I'm not going to get here and say, okay, the other two or three didn't work. So I'm not going to at least say it's a positive, Drew, that we got the fourth.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Right? I mean, if Cal has three straight point guards that he gets, there are five stars that don't work, I'm still going to be excited about the fourth because we need something to work. Yeah, I mean, you can't argue that Kentucky under Stoops hasn't argued against that he hasn't taken a freshman right out of high school and turned him in a great quarterback. I think Barker had potential, but he got hurt. That didn't work out.
Starting point is 00:39:14 There was off-the-field stuff. He had that back injury. I think Barker could have been that guy. But right now, I think Cutter Bowley is going to be that guy next year. And just because you haven't done it once doesn't mean you turn down a top 10 quarterback because it's like, well, we never use these before. Just go, well, let's not recruit anybody. Well, Drew Barker didn't work. So let's never look at a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Drew Barker didn't work. So let's just learn to plant and stop watching football. I mean, like at some point you have to, I mean, part of sports, especially part of being a Kentucky football fan in my lifetime has been Charlie Brown missing the football and get up and try again. Yeah. Right. I mean, that's been most of our. lives with UK football is going, well, maybe this time I'll hit it. And, you know, that's what being a fan is. Can we go back to Patrick Tolls? Can we count him? He was top 10ish,
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Starting point is 00:45:13 sensitive. I wonder what your comment about that is. He made another video. He called this Shannon a little radio show. Oh, so little that he would be the host of it for a summer show. Yeah, he didn't bring that up. Oh, yeah. He said this little radio show, uh, talked about it in front of a crowd.
Starting point is 00:45:37 We talked about it in front of a crowd because we were on remote that day. Um, you know, look, here's the thing about people who, it is always frustrating to me when a host calls out Kentucky fans. Kentucky fans respond, which, by the way, was what the host wanted them to do because the host is trying to get attention. I love Bobby, but go look at Bobby's sports show's TikTok account. The two biggest videos he's ever had are both about Kentucky, which means he's doing it on purpose. So he says, Kentucky fans are the worst fans. Kentucky fans respond, and rather than addressing the argument, he just goes, y'all are so sensitive.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Well, to some extent we are a little sensitive, but also that's why you engaged with us in the first place, is you want that engagement. You want to bring about that result. So to then come back and say, you all are lame because you responded to what I said. Well, then you're lame for saying it. Right. Like it's a vicious circle. You're saying it to get a reaction. You get the reaction.
Starting point is 00:46:45 And then you go, why are you giving me a reaction? what was because you said it. Like, you knew what you were doing. He's sensitive too. I mean, he didn't like your comment. You made one little comment about a stand-up, and he got all sensitive about it. Yeah, I mean, you're exactly right, Chan.
Starting point is 00:47:00 I mean, to some extent, almost everyone is sensitive. There's very, people always say, I don't care what anybody says. Yeah, you do. Almost everybody is. In this business, you've got to have thick skin. Some people don't. They haven't learned that yet, it seems like.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Yeah, and I don't have the thickest skin. I acknowledge that. But like, you can't do something. Like, every time I make fun of Louisville, I know. It's coming. It's come. Sometimes they get offended when I didn't even think about them. But it's coming.
Starting point is 00:47:29 When I made fun of that Louisville pictures of the uniforms, I didn't know it would get over a million views. But I knew it was, like, you know, that's part of what you're doing. Yeah. And what was this comment, like six teeth and thousand people? Once you do that, of course someone's going to clap back. He just said I don't like Kentucky basketball. And he went to the lamest thing. I mean, like, six teeth?
Starting point is 00:47:52 I mean, come on. That was a joke. Like, that's a terrible joke. He got six teeth. It's a terrible joke. He can't do that, not expect to hear anything back. He punched us. We punched him back in the face and now he's the one crying about it.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Of course, we're sensitive because we care. Every college in the country wishes they had our fan base. We have more teeth than that. Yeah. So, you know, it's away it goes. But I did notice that both videos got much more traction than the other videos, which is why he'll do it again sometimes. I mean, that's just how it is.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Cody, go ahead, Cody. Hey, man, what's going on? I think I got a good hypothetical for you. It's going to sound kind of weird how it's worded. But if there is one show that you could go back and change the main character of the show to another character in the same show, what would it be? Like, for example, I think Lost would have been so much. much better if Sawyer was the main character instead of Jack, and they just switch roles.
Starting point is 00:48:53 I'll hang up and listen. I love the show, buddy. I have to sit and think about that. Who would, is there a show where the main character would have been better being somebody else? I'll get one. I'm running through shows in my brain right now. Yeah, I'm going to have to think about one. I can't think of, you know, in the wire, I think the show would be better if there was less
Starting point is 00:49:17 police stuff and more Stringer Bell, Avon Barksdale stuff. Like the show is to some extent based around, yeah, or Omar. The show is to some extent based around the police's attempts to get them. Whereas I think it would just be much more interesting if it was just about the Baltimore drug trade. I mean, it's a lot about that. But like all the McNulty stuff is kind of like, he's probably the most boring person on the show. And one of the seasons, two or three, it gets real political and boring.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Like, no, just get me back to the drug stuff. I mean, when they hire that dude to come from Philly with the bow tie, you know what I'm talking about? And he's going after Stringer Bell. That's the greatest. That's the show. So I think that's probably what I'd say. I have some like secondary characters I love, but like on the Sopranos, I love Polly Walnuts, but I couldn't put him above Tony. I like him more than Tony, but he couldn't be Tony Sopranos.
Starting point is 00:50:14 He could be the centerpiece of the show. I think on the bear, which we're. we've watched, anyone but the guy that's the head would be better. He's the least, Carmi's the least likable person on the show. Have you watched the new season yet? I haven't watched any of it yet. It's just Carmi's too much. He's just, why he's always sad.
Starting point is 00:50:30 And he never explains why he's sad. That show is starting to feel like work to me. It is work. Last night, I'm like, I guess I'll watch another one. Don't tell me that. I just want them to be in the kitchen. I don't need to see them like staring off into space being sad. Like, be in the kitchen yelling at each other.
Starting point is 00:50:45 That's what I want to watch. the tall guy that he's kind of one of my favorite characters yeah he's good yeah jacob go ahead jacob oh baby billy and righteous gemstones oh that's a great call the whole show should be baby billy there's your answer go ahead jrudey the two of them hey matt first time long time who are hey um i'm sure you guys saw uh on monday tall football 26 came out and kentucky's punter got a zero toughness rating yeah i know kind of hear you guys that's a ridiculous that's a red that's ridiculous. Like, I don't know much about how they do those ratings, but he gave our punter. Our punter was the only person in the game to have a zero toughness rate. First of all,
Starting point is 00:51:25 our punters from South Africa and played rugby. Come on. I would venture to say, if you took every punter in the country and had a battle royal, he's one of the favorites. Gotta be. A South African rugby player? It had be a mistake, right? It had to be. Had to be a mistake. Had to be. There's no way. He's pretty big, too. There's no way a South African rugby player is not higher than a zero. How do you give anyone a zero? It's on a scale of one to 99 or zero in this case to 99. Like you couldn't throw him a three? Yeah. I hope he embraces it and runs with it this year
Starting point is 00:52:00 and kind of makes light of it. I'm going to media day just to meet him to ask him what I should do when I go to South Africa. He's the only person I know. I think he has to put out a video showing out something is. Do you know anyone from South Africa? No. Is there anyone in Lexington from South Africa except this guy? that I'm aware. Do you know of anyone, Shannon, from South Africa? No, I don't. So I'm literally, I think I'm going to go to Media Day for the sole purpose of asking him
Starting point is 00:52:26 and what I should do in South Africa. Where else are you going to go to find out? He's perfect. Because I, South Africa is a country. I've never met anyone from. Yeah. Apparently not very tough. And then I'm going to challenge him to a fight.
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