KSR - 2025-07-15- KSR - Hour 1

Episode Date: July 15, 2025

Myron Medcalf joins Ryan and Shannon to talk favorite relatives and the all-time starting 5 at Kentucky.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:02:50 Black Jones is back, baby. My head. Bill it in. In the mix. Not a Merry Monday. I was about to say Merry Monday. Mary Tuesday. Man, what's the, what I'm trying to think like what you call, what I should call,
Starting point is 00:03:07 Terrific Tuesday? Terrific Tuesday. That what I should. That works. Tickle me Tuesday. No, no, not tickle me Tuesday. Tickle me Tuesday sounds like an HR problem. I don't want, I don't, you don't want to encourage Tickle me Tuesday and then they got to walk,
Starting point is 00:03:22 they got to walk James off the job at noon because he was leaning into it too much. I'll go a terrific Tuesday. How are you fellas doing on this terrific Tuesday? Man, it's good to hear from you again. It's been a minute since you've been on the show. So we're excited to hear you. We're going to join us again this week. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Who do I have? I got my guy Ryan. I got who else. Shannon. Shannon, I'm here. Yep. Have you been to any waffle houses lately? Let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:03:48 So I spent a week in South Carolina this week. And I was doing a peach jam. Yeah. Right? So I was in South Carolina, Georgia, before a week. I just got back yesterday. So like I don't want to offend anybody. Okay, so let me say that.
Starting point is 00:04:04 So you all can help me, like be honest with me, okay, if this is like maybe sounds offensive. But this is what I thought when I, after a week in South Carolina, like if all the states were people, right? Like if all, like every state was characterized by like a person that kind of symbolizes what that state is. I feel like South Carolina is like Tennessee after a divorce a little bit. You know what I mean? Like, you know, kind of starting over, you're moving to the condo, you know, like everything's maybe not in order. There was a lot happening in South Carolina.
Starting point is 00:04:39 And here's why I say that. People were interesting in South Carolina in just my experience, right? Like, I went to a store and there was a dude telling me to go to church. And then he also said, it's okay to drink a little bit of wine every now and then. I didn't really know where he was going. Like, I don't know what church he was apart. but he was he was pretty adamant in telling me hey you got to go to this church and then he was
Starting point is 00:05:03 also telling me hey but I also do a little bit of this this little bit of that the restaurants everyone called me sugar am I a sugar? You're sugar? You're sweet. Yeah you sugar daddy everybody called me sugar and that was I'm like I didn't feel
Starting point is 00:05:20 like they were calling everybody's sugar you know what I mean that was my thing like everybody wasn't being called sugar so I'm like was there something about me that made them feel that way and Then the rain. Okay, so I didn't understand South Carolina rain. Maybe you all know about this.
Starting point is 00:05:35 I have never seen rain where the weather apps couldn't keep up with what was going on in South Carolina. So I was sitting in my car at Peach Jam, right? And it said two hours until this storm is coming. So I don't know if you all have ever been to Peach Jam, but like Peach Jam is in North Augusta, South Carolina. It's in this gym. But like you basically got to park wherever you can find.
Starting point is 00:06:00 find a spot. So like people are literally up on curbs, on grass. It's like one of those situations. So I'm parked up on the grass and it's like two hours before it rain. So I'm sitting in my car sending some text messages thinking I got two hours, you know? All of a sudden, I see these sprinkles. And I'm like, wait a minute. My weather app said two hours. And then it's a downpour. Like South Carolina rain, they don't flirt with you. Like, South Carolina rain doesn't tease you. Like, it just destroys everything and it starts pouring. And now I'm running into the entrance.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Now, here's the thing, once you get past 40. No one past the age of 40 looks good running. I don't know if you all knew that. I'm with you. 100%. No one. Like, I don't care if you're in the best shape in the world. I don't care if you run marathons.
Starting point is 00:06:53 No one after 40 looks good running. but when you don't run a lot, it looks even worse. So I just know it was a bad look, fellas. I just know it was like someone saw me running to the entrance and it probably changed our relationship and I don't know. You know, like they're not going to tell me, but I feel that way. Like, do you all know what I'm talking about?
Starting point is 00:07:15 Have you seen people over 40 running? It's not a good look, right? Even when I'm running now, I know for a fact people are laughing at me because it is not a good look at all. All time stolen base leader right here, Ryan Lemon. Still, he's lost a step over the years, though. Oh, no, I can still run. Listen, I mean, and I can do bursts of running, but like, you know, stuff is, stuff is jiggling.
Starting point is 00:07:40 I think I lost like $1.45 along the way that I just, I couldn't turn back to grab it. You know, like, once you lose change in the rain, it's just, it's just gone. You know what I mean? Like, you can't go back. I don't know where it is. But it just was a lot happening. But yeah, just South Carolina in general, man, was just an interesting place. Where do you all rank South Carolina among the states in the South if we rank them?
Starting point is 00:08:06 Like is South Carolina top five, top ten? Like where do you rank South Carolina? I may surprise you with this, Myron. I rank it number two because I love Hilton Head. I go to Hilton Head quite a bit. Yeah. Okay, well, that's different. Yeah, that's beautiful up there.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Beautiful. Charleston, South Carolina is beautiful. even Myrtle Beach, parts of Myrtle Beach is really beautiful. But you're right, the state itself, it's like no sense of urgency, kind of back porch rocking, sweet tea, kind of just chill kind of vibe down there. Yeah, I feel like I was in Hilton Head's, like, third cousin on their daddy's side's house a little bit. You know what I mean? Like it wasn't a little different, you know, where I was.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Now, granted, the food was great. That's one thing I said. Everything I ate in South Carolina was incredible. You got to have sweet tea. Every meal you got to drink sweet tea. Everything. And then here's the cool thing about like their hotels. I mean, this is not like this in Midwest.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Every hotel has a restaurant attached to it. Yeah. I don't know what it is. Like every place you go, there's like a place also to get nachos. Like as you check in, the nacho joint is right there to the left. And then you check in. And then it's like, yeah, okay, go get some nachos and a margarita before you go to your room. It's all set up like that, you know?
Starting point is 00:09:20 And so that was pretty cool. And then the games are good too. I saw Mark Pope. down there who never stops moving, by the way. Like, Mark Pope is always on the go at these events. Like, I don't know if you all have been to an event with Mark Pope, but you just see this seven-foot human being going from gym to gym to gym. And I don't know, I would love to know how many steps he does in the day.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Because my guess is Mark Pope is like a 20,000 step a day, dude. Close no doubt. Because he just never stops. He absolutely never stops, man. And it's like he's already drunk like six Red Bulls before the day even starts. He just so energetic. I said, hey, coach, and he looked at me, and he said, oh, hey. But it was the, oh, hey, like, I don't really know who you are.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I'm going to keep walking. But he probably just is so, like, in a B-line to get to where he wants to go that he just doesn't have time, you know, to kind of stop. But that man is always, always on the move, man. Well, it's terrific Tuesday. So I'm going to treat it like Merry Monday. So I still want people to call in. And I want you to tell me something great that happened to you over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Well, up until today, you can include Monday, too. So terrific Tuesday. Let me know some good things that are happening in your world. I don't remember the segments. Like, well, how much time do I have? Like, how long am I talking right now? I don't know anything. Yeah, you can go.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Yeah, yeah, this break goes all the way up until 20 after if you want to. Okay, so I saw Superman. Oh, you did? No, we talked about it. Yeah, what did you think? I saw Superman. Again, so I saw it in the South Carolina theater. No less than, you.
Starting point is 00:10:53 four flies had somehow got into the theater and you could see them as they were buzzing around during the movie, right? But I thought the movie itself was really good. I loved the movie. I enjoyed the movie. I understand
Starting point is 00:11:09 that people are whatever they're making some sort of political connection to it. Listen, man, it's a doggone superhero movie. That's all I saw. That's all I cared about. It was the same thing that Superman's been doing from the beginning, from the time I was a kid,
Starting point is 00:11:26 goes out and tries to save the world. Like, that's all I saw. But I thought it was pretty cool, man. I thought it was like a movie where, you know, I'm not used to Superman getting beat up as much as he got beat up in that movie. You know, there was a little bit of like, man, at some point, you know, Superman's not supposed to take all these punches, but I thought it was pretty realistic. So I thought it was a really good, really good movie.
Starting point is 00:11:51 What did you all think of it? I've not seen it. You're the first person I've talked to you. I've got to see it. The only other thing I hear that people are talking about the dog. I guess it's a fake dog, but it looks like it's a real dog. It does look. It looks very real. CGI dog. Is that what we're talking about here? Yeah, it looks very, very, very, very, very, everything. Everything looks very real. But here's why I bring up Superman. Oh, go ahead, Chen. No, I was going to say, I haven't seen it yet. I feel like, you know, I've already seen what Superman does. You know, he flies around. He saves the world and everything. I just don't know how many Superman movies do we need. before Hollywood goes, you know what? I think we're going to cut it off there.
Starting point is 00:12:27 I guess as long as people continue to go see it, though, why would you stop making a Superman movie, you know? No, I mean, they're making all the old movies, right? Because there's no new ideas. Also, we're the people seeing the movies. You know what I mean? So they know, like, do you come up with some new idea or do you do the same thing that we've been watching since we were kids?
Starting point is 00:12:43 So the reason I bring up Superman is it was a really good movie. But immediately people were coming out and they were saying, this is the greatest superhero movie of all time. this is the most incredible movie, you know, in movie history. And I hate that. Like, why do we feel the need to the minute something comes out? And we literally have just watched it for the first time. Why do we suddenly decide that this is the greatest thing that's ever happened?
Starting point is 00:13:09 And I feel like with movies, that happens more than anything else. Was Superman good? Yes, I thought it was a really good movie. I enjoyed it. And I think most people, if you look at the Rotten Tomato scores, probably did as well. but this isn't the greatest movie of all time. This isn't some, you know what I mean, epic film that you put up there with the Godfather
Starting point is 00:13:31 and some of these other films. I just, I don't know how you all feel about it, but I can't stand it when a movie comes out and there's this big buzz and people are like, oh, we've never seen anything better than this. Are you kidding me? Everybody I feel like needs to relax after you see a movie
Starting point is 00:13:46 and not try to make it bigger than what it is. I'm with you, and I kind of worry about the whole industry itself. If this was the movie of the summer, this was the one everybody was anticipating, and it's just a reboot of something we've seen already 15 times, where are we in the movie industry? You know, come up with something good,
Starting point is 00:14:02 something different than we want to go see. Well, I mean, will theaters exist in 10 years from now? I mean, with being able to stream everything at home, do you think that people will still be going to see these movies 10 years from now? That's a really good question. I mean, my girls don't go to the theater. Yeah. You know, like they, they, if it's not sure,
Starting point is 00:14:21 streamed, they're not watching it. Now, granted, I will take them to the movies. So they'll go with me, but like with their friends, no. They don't go to the movies like that. So I don't know, man, in 10 years, kind of what the theater industry will look like.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Because I just think everyone's kind of afraid of like doing an original idea. I have an original idea that I think could sell. Right? And it was something I was thinking about on my trip. We've taken a bunch of trips so far this summer. And one of the trips we took was back home to Milwaukee. My parents celebrated 50 years,
Starting point is 00:14:55 which was super cool, had a big event, black tie affair, tuxedos, all that stuff, right? But on the way we passed a little place called Lake Delton, Wisconsin. You guys ever been up to that part of Wisconsin? Well, we were recently in Milwaukee with the Kentucky, the NCAA tournament. I'm sure we've been by it. Yeah, a couple hours west of there, right? All right. But it's a place called Lake Delton. So I have, these two cousins, James and John, right? And they married two sisters, not sisters, right?
Starting point is 00:15:29 And they live in an Amish town. So as kids, we would get in like three vans. My whole family, cousins, everybody, and we go up there and hang out. So you've got to imagine, you know, 25 black folks getting out of vans and then there's these Amish kids, they're looking at us, we're looking at them,
Starting point is 00:15:47 everybody's confused, right? We don't know what's going on. They don't know what's going on. but we all would hang out with my cousins, James and John. And James had a giant beach volleyball court, like in his front yard. He had this giant, like, he was in the beach volleyball. It was like one of his favorite thing. So James lost half his arm in a factory accident, right?
Starting point is 00:16:10 So this is like the 90s. So we had the hook, you know, the captain hook thing. Yeah, yeah, right? But James had a volleyball. arm. So he would, like, I'll kid you not. So we'd get ready to play volleyball, and James would be like, go get my arm. I'm not making this up. This is 100% true. And he would go and strap on his black volleyball arm. Now, here's the thing. You know, it wasn't the right tone. Like it did, it stood out because it was almost like Will Smith tone, but he looks more like Wesley Snipes. But he would, he would, like,
Starting point is 00:16:43 put on his volleyball arm, right? And James was the greatest. I don't know how many black people have played beach volleyball. Like, I don't know the numbers, but it's not something I think is very popular, you know, from what I know. James is the greatest beach volleyball player of all time. I mean, maybe of all time, black beach volleyball player of all time.
Starting point is 00:17:03 So, I mean, you've got to think about this. This man has one arm, but he's got his volleyball arm. He's black, living in an Amish community, and he's an incredible beach volleyball player. Would you all go see that movie? I feel like I would. Yeah, I would go.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Absolutely. Now that arm, it could bump, set, and spike? It was like a three and one arm. Everything. Okay. Everything. He called for it. He would call for it.
Starting point is 00:17:25 He would say, go get my arm. And then, like, his partner would come out with his arm. Like, it was, like, in a case. I'm not making this up. Like, you can call my cousins. And he was, he was miraculous on the court. Like, it was like, you know, like, he just jumped high. Like, he bumped.
Starting point is 00:17:40 He said, he did it all with this arm. And then when he was done, he'd, like, take it off. And then he put on the hook. You know, and there's a part of me that's like, looking back as a kid, there's a part of me that's like, was he cheating? You know, I don't know the rules, you know, like I don't know if the arm gave him an advantage or not. The bionic arm, yeah. I don't know. Also, you know, again, it's the 90s.
Starting point is 00:18:04 You don't get to like, today you could probably match the tone of something like that. You know, that's the 90. There was no Amazon back then. So it was an interesting look because it looked so different from the color of his skin. But when he put it on, man, it was like, he. He became our Superman. I've never seen a better black beach volleyball player history than my cousin James, who would call for his volleyball arms.
Starting point is 00:18:26 So I think movies like that would sell. I try to tell my kids about that. They didn't really understand how much fun that was. Take the script to Hollywood, man. That's the new Superman movie that comes out next summer, you know? I mean, there you go. Dude, I am not watching Superman movie, but I'm standing in line for two hours to see Cousin Jane with the Will Smith Beach Volleyball.
Starting point is 00:18:47 arm knocking people over. I'm wanting to see that one. Can slap like Will Smith is the question, though. Yeah, a little arrogant to call for your arm. I mean, I'm not, listen. Bring out the arm. It was a little theatrical. You know, it was a little theatrical.
Starting point is 00:19:03 But you as kids were like, oh, cousin James bringing out the volleyball. He's getting the arm. Get the arm. Get the arm. Listen, like, that was our version of like Hulk Hogan's music. You know what I mean? It was like, James is about to put on the arm. and everybody knew
Starting point is 00:19:19 he was going to dominate. You know what I mean? Like it was just incredible. So you got to imagine that. And all of this is happening in an Amish community. Like I'm not making any of this shop. Like we would get caught behind the horse and buggy
Starting point is 00:19:31 and my dad would get frustrated. It was like a whole thing. But shout out to James. I think that could go and sell in Hollywood. I think we've got to take a break here. But yeah, terrific Tuesday. What's the number? What's the number again?
Starting point is 00:19:43 859-280-2287. Give me your favorite, you know, things that happened to you, something positive. But also tell me about your favorite relative. Like tell me about your favorite relative of all time that people should know about. For me, again, James in his arm playing beach volleyball in the Amish community has always stood out for me. What about you? We'll be back after this break. Last night, a blown call changed a game.
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Starting point is 00:24:25 she can make it right oh I love Al Green man I love me some Al so I did I did Al Green karaoke one time like I just you know like that's probably my
Starting point is 00:24:39 Al's probably my go-to karaoke artist I would feel like, you know, if I were going to do karaoke, like I'm probably picking Al Greene songs. Who are your go-to karaoke artists? Guys, who's your favorite? Well, the easiest of all time, of course, is the song Tequila, because you just stand there and the music plays and then you go Tequila.
Starting point is 00:25:00 You can't screw that up. That's the one karaoke song. You can be bad at, but everybody could do. Ryan, what's your hysterious rocker? I do a wagon wheel with Shannon the dudes band, Alice Blue Gown, a little wagon wheel. That's my go-to. Yeah, for sure. Shannon, listen, my own room, real quickly, we were in Maine.
Starting point is 00:25:17 One of our crazy trips from Kentucky to, like, New York. We went up through Maine to get there. And we went to a karaoke place one night, and Shannon gets up there, and I'm live, recording live feeding it, thinking this is going to be so funny. Shannon, you know, Shannon once he thinks he can get up there and sing, and he killed it. He sang Stone-tipple pilots and killed it. And single-handedly brought back the band because of that, right? That's right.
Starting point is 00:25:42 That night brought back the band. I love it, man. Everybody should have a go-to karaoke song, man. I really believe that. Ryan, you got to read something? You have to read a... I do, but I'm not ready. Shannon, are you ready for it?
Starting point is 00:25:57 No, tell them about... So let's take some calls for it. The show sponsor, Ryan. Oh, that. Yeah. T.J. Smith Law Office sponsors every Kentucky Sports Radio show. Call T.J.
Starting point is 00:26:06 What'll he do, Shannon? He'll make them pay. He'll make them pay. Now we've also got our A-Vision Glass text machine line, which is my cell phone this week since Matt is not here. Our Clark's Pubbit Shop phone number is open. 859-2-802-287. And Myron will announce our whiskey thief call a day.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Now, ladies and gentlemen, back on the airwaves, six-foot tall, 220 pounds, the round mound of rebound. It is Myron Metka! By the way, you look great in your cowboy hat and your boots down in Nashville. We saw that picture. I don't know where you got those measurements, but I'll take them. So I was talking about my cousin James and his volleyball arm. We'll take a couple calls.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Like if anybody has, we got a call, right? Yeah, we got a couple calls. We got first. Alan. Alan, give me something. How you doing, man? Give me something about terrific Tuesday and also tell me about your favorite relative. Hey, how you guys doing?
Starting point is 00:26:53 Big fan of you who are in Metcalf. She started recently calling in, so this is a daily occurrence maybe. If you're hoping to wear out my welcome. The good news for this Tuesday is today the 17th day of my baby daughter's birthday. Oh, yeah. Boys. Congrats. I'm just,
Starting point is 00:27:13 yes, sir, you just wanted to call in and join the show. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Yeah, man. I love, I love Mary Monday on a Tuesday,
Starting point is 00:27:24 you know? Like, I love that vibe. We got another call? We do. Let's go to Casey. Casey, how you doing? Hey, good morning, fellas.
Starting point is 00:27:34 How are you doing, Myron? Doing well, doing well. What you got on this terrific Tuesday? Good. And also your favorite. relative you want to tell us about? So my favorite relative
Starting point is 00:27:44 is about 20 days old. Her name is Sumner. I am a new aunt. Woo, congratulations. It has made my heart just grow like I love babies and I love kids anyway, but being an auntie is just
Starting point is 00:28:00 the best and I'm so excited about watching her play sports growing up and I got her a bunch of UK clothes and all that good stuff raising her right. But thank you for taking my call, Myra, I hope you guys to have a great day. You too. Oh, that's awesome, man.
Starting point is 00:28:14 A couple of babies and young people. Like, that always makes me smile, man. Like, that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool, man. Great relatives, young relatives. Terrific Tuesday, we're going to continue this. I want people to call in again. Tell me something cool this happened.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Something positive. Also your favorite relative. Again, like, should I have told more people about James? I feel like people are reacting like this is a unique story. That's the best story you've ever told. This is awesome. Better than the family reunion story. I didn't think it was that unique.
Starting point is 00:28:45 I didn't realize it was that unique. Dude, he's got a beach volleyball arm. Of course we want to know about it. Everybody had a beach volleyball arm. They just went to the closet and pulled out. Yeah. Again, like I felt like he was really good. And like now looking back, it was a little bit,
Starting point is 00:29:00 it was a little bit arrogant that he called for it. You know what I mean? Like, so we'll be back after this on KSR. T.J. Smith, personal injury attorney. Call T.J. He'll make him pay. Now, more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage.
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Starting point is 00:30:28 So I'm working on a series, fellas, where I'm doing some of the top teams. in college basketball history. And I'm trying to put together their all-time starting five. Their all-time reserves, you know, and then like honorable mentions. And I have one coming tomorrow for a team I won't mention now. But I was thinking about it for Kentucky. And the challenge with that I've realized for the team I did it with, so much of the conversation about the all-time greats,
Starting point is 00:31:05 is generational, right? Like whoever you saw coming up. Yeah. Whoever was your hero coming up. Yep. That's your person. And that was difficult for this team tomorrow that's coming out. I feel like it's going to be impossible for Kentucky because you guys got to help me out.
Starting point is 00:31:24 I have no idea how to capture an all-time look at Kentucky while also being respectful of the generations, right? of paying homage to the players who have played 70 years ago but still meant so much. But then how do you weigh that against the Anthony Davis and guys like that? I don't know if you guys have any sense of who would be in your top five all time, but I feel like Kentucky, no matter what I do, I'm going to make somebody upset. Yeah, we've had this discussion before. It's so hard because, like, Dan Issell is a career scoring leader that will never be broken. but, you know, people, you got to, how can you ignore Anthony Davis?
Starting point is 00:32:08 So you put Issel at the five, Davis at the four or something, because you have to do something like that. I think that's what you have. But then at the three, you got like Jamal Mashburn, Jack Givens, Tatianne, Tashon Prince, yeah. And the guards, John Wall, Kyle Macy, Mashir. The leading scoring guard of all time is Keith Bogan's.
Starting point is 00:32:30 I mean, you got to, it's tough to come up with the starting five. So throw out the number again for me. Yep. 859-280-2287. So this is what I need from callers. Give me your locks on an all-time starting five. You don't have to tell me your starting five. Tell me who has to be on the list.
Starting point is 00:32:47 I think that's what I need the most help with. Who absolutely, if you don't have them and you're starting five at Kentucky all-time, then the list is invalid. Like that's what I need to figure out. And, you know, you all mentioned Dan, who it feels like he is a, He has to be on that list, right?
Starting point is 00:33:04 I think he's got to be on the list. Yeah. I mean, starting five. It feels like Anthony Davis has to be in your starting five. Then from there, it gets tricky. It gets very tricky. From there, from there, because for me, Tachan incredible what he did, right? But it's hard for me to imagine putting anybody over Jamal Mashburn.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Yeah. You know, like just sheer talent, it's hard. That's difficult for me. And then once you get to the guards, I have no idea what you do there. Because like you mentioned, Ryan, there's so many across generations that you could choose from,
Starting point is 00:33:42 how do you deal with that? And then also, okay, the one of none guys. Well, you do the guy like DeMarcus cousins. Yep. Who, you know, didn't win a ring, but it's hard to imagine there are that many guys who were better than him in the one year that we saw him at the collegiate level
Starting point is 00:33:59 where both he and John Wall with first team all Americans. So for both of you, who are your locks? It can be five guys, but who are the guys that you're like, the list is not valid unless these guys are in Kentucky's all-time starting five on ESPN? Shannon, you go first. Yeah, for me, Dan Essel has to be on there. Has to be in the starting five.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Yes, I don't think that's a debate. Anthony Davis, I feel like has to be on there. I feel like he's a lock. I feel like John Wall also should be a lock. John Wall's a lock. I feel like it. Now, the other two, your two guard or your three, I could be convinced to switch those out.
Starting point is 00:34:40 I would have them that Mashburned at two, Tashon, as my small forward at the three spot. But I could be convinced otherwise. But I feel like those are my locks. Wall, Davis, Istle. Brian, what do you? I feel like he is. Ryan, what do you think?
Starting point is 00:34:56 No, and that's valid. I mean, you know, there's a lot of guards. John Walt to me feels. was like a lock. But SEC player of the year, overall number one pick in the draft, you know. Yes. But other guards who won championships, right? Sure.
Starting point is 00:35:11 So I don't, you know. Yeah. I don't know. How do you weigh that? If we go on accolades, Willie Colley Stein has probably more accolades than anybody in one, other than Anthony Davis, you know, defensive player of the year, SEC player of the year, first team, All-American. And then we talked about Oscar Sheewe was national player of the year.
Starting point is 00:35:31 And he won't even get in this conversation at all. So it is kind of crazy. But my lock. My locks are probably Dan Isle, Anthony Davis, Jamal, Ashburn, Jack Givens, and my point guard. It's a generational thing, like you said, Myr, and I'm going Kyle Macy. So these are all locks for you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Well, these are lots for you. So these are like, that's your start of five. It has to be. That's my starting five. Dude, if you put Wall versus Macy one-on-one, though, Wall would cook Macy. You know that. Right, Ryan?
Starting point is 00:36:01 Come on. Did John Wall win a championship? No. It's a team thing though. That's a team thing, not an individual thing. But see, this is why it's so hard, though. It is. This is why it's so hard.
Starting point is 00:36:12 So I feel like, okay, Dan Nessel, Anthony Davis, if I have those two guys in the start five, I'm good, right? Yeah, for sure. And then from there it gets dicey. From there is where it gets dicey because you're going to offend somebody. We didn't you mention Carl Anthony Towns, who was on a team that almost went undefeated and was the number one pick. That's, I mean, again.
Starting point is 00:36:31 that I don't know, other than Anthony Davis, I don't know what to do with the Cal era in terms of players. Like I don't know where to put, again, John Wall feels like it has to be in the starting five, but I think there's a case to be made for a lot of other guys. I think DeMarcus cousins, if it's just one of the best single years we've ever seen at that spot, not over Anthony Davis or Dan, but what do you do with DeMarcus cousins? Is he on the second team? He's on the platoon team.
Starting point is 00:36:58 He's on the platoon team. He's on the platoon team. Like, what do you do? All right, we got some callers. Maybe these callers can help us. Who's our first call? All right, let's go to J.C. How you doing?
Starting point is 00:37:09 Tell me something cool that's happened on this terrific Tuesday for you. Well, not a whole lot going on. But I got a, I think the front court you all got already is definitely the three locks. Who are the three? Who's the third? So we got Dan and Anthony Davis. Who's the third? Mashper.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Mashburn. And y'all say Mashburn was a lot. Well, no. There's debate about Mashper. People have seen the play. Okay. Not in my mind. Is he a lock for you, J.C.?
Starting point is 00:37:40 Definitely. Yes, he is. Yeah. Mashburn's a lock. Okay. Mashmir's a lock. It looks like our most decorated guard is going to be Shay.
Starting point is 00:37:52 And of course, if you have Shea, you have to have Quad A Green. He was in Calabary's mind. Yeah, ahead of Shady. So anyway, that's my five, I reckon. Y'all have a good one. You know, if you're on the point guard on numbers, yeah, Wall had a great year, he's number one pick.
Starting point is 00:38:11 But Brandon Knight actually had better numbers than Wall, and Tyler Ullis had better numbers than both of them. Yeah. I mean, isn't that the hard part, right? Yeah, that's the hard part. The hard part is. The hard part is, but to me, I personally have not seen many collegiate guards in the modern era,
Starting point is 00:38:33 let's say the last 25 years, that I'm putting above John Wall. Like if you tell me I'm starting a team and I need a point guard in the last 25 years, for me personally, it's probably John Wall. Yeah, 25 years, yeah. So, I mean, the numbers may not add up to what, like, a ULIS did necessarily,
Starting point is 00:38:51 but he also played next to a first team All-American to Mark's Cousins. A bunch of young guys on that team. I feel like John Wall, wanted to could average 35 a game, right? It just, there was other talent around him. So, all right, we got another call. Who else?
Starting point is 00:39:06 That's interesting. Jamal Mashburn has a lock. A lot of people like Jamal. Brian and Franklin. Hey, Brian. Brian and Franklin, how are you doing on this terrific Tuesday? Tell me something good about your week on this terrific Tuesday. I'm doing phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Good. Here's my thing, though. I, in my mind's eye, can't get over the description that you was giving me about James. So in my mind's eye, I'm picturing the dude that shows up in the pool hall. He's got his own pool cue in the case and everything.
Starting point is 00:39:39 He unzips that thing, pulls it out, screws it together, and just runs the table. I'm seeing him as the dude at the bowling alley that shows up. He's got his own shoes, his own ball. Am I seeing this correctly?
Starting point is 00:39:56 Yeah, I feel like James was probably hustling the Amish community in beach volleyball for like 15 years. Like I think, you know, like he just, he was, he was, he was that good. Like he, he was, again, he's the best beach volleyball player
Starting point is 00:40:12 I've ever seen up close. You know, like I've never seen, like the way he would jump. You know what I mean? Like, he was just like all over the place. Once he got the arm right, man, he was, you couldn't mess with him, man. You really couldn't mess with Jane. He was that good.
Starting point is 00:40:28 He was. And I don't know, I never saw him use the arm other than volleyball. That's what I'm in the body. Like, it wasn't like I saw him with the arm in other situations. Only for volleyball. Did I see that arm come out? He showed up to the court in his flip-flops and then pulls out of sneakers out of the bag and then transforms. And then now he's MJ.
Starting point is 00:40:51 She would bring the arm. I love it. I love it to him. Yeah. No, it's right. I appreciate. Appreciate the call, man. I think it was just his volleyball arm, fellas.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Like, I don't think, I can't recall another time when he used it, you know? I love the fact that all the kids are, like, waiting around in a circle, waiting for Cousin James to alert the authorities to bring in his beach volleyball arm so he can go down on the beach volleyball. Did he have, like, another arm for, like, another situation? Like, I don't know. I saw the two. I saw the two, but, like, he would walk out with swagger.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Like, he would walk him to the court with swagger. Like, you know, like I'll show you a little bit. You know what I mean? He knew how good he was, you know? Like he knew he knew how good he was and he wanted everybody else to know too, man. So shout out James, man, Lake Dent, Wisconsin. I'm kidding you not. We'd go up there.
Starting point is 00:41:43 He would play beach volleyball for hours and he was absolutely incredible. I think we've got to take a break here. More terrific Tuesday. More of your takes on all time starting five and your favorite relative after the break. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in.
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Starting point is 00:47:23 I feel like I got to get my address to some of the sports. So they can send me some of this stuff. If you'd ever come see us, we could give you some stuff. Yeah. Well, I've been, but I've done shows down there. So, you know, next time I'm going to, I'm going to figure it out. So we're having this all-time starting five. I'm doing this series with ESPN.
Starting point is 00:47:40 I'm trying to figure out who the locks should be, you know, once I do this piece. It sounds like all-time starting five Kentucky history. Dan Essel, Anthony Davis, locks, right? Like, I think everybody agrees they have to be in your starting five. I think they have to be. And now it's, it's sounding more like people, maybe think Jamal Mashburn is a lot. But Ryan, you're getting some text messages about this.
Starting point is 00:48:02 What are you seeing? This on the A Vision Glass Tech Machine, Myron, absolutely lit up. I mean, I got like 50 of them in that last segment. Just kind of going through them, is like most people are making an argument for Kenny Skywalker, even over Mashburn at the three. All-American, I think he's number two in the all-time scoring list. And then the other one, they're making an argument for is Tony Delk at Guard.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Yeah. Those seem to be the two on the A-Vision Glass Tech Machine the most. Can you put, and I know Tony, man. Can you put Tony over John? Like, how do, how should I measure that between those two guys? Obviously, there's a national champion, right?
Starting point is 00:48:41 Yeah. Tony has. That gives him, obviously, a certain edge. His jersey's retired already here at Kentucky. Yeah. But he was more of a two-guard than a point guard. Petino kept trying to make him a point guard, but he was really a two guard.
Starting point is 00:48:56 But man, I didn't even think about Tony. Tony has a lot. He has a lot of achievements. If you put him at two guard, that means you're not going to put in Jack Givens. Yeah, when you want Jack as a lock, right? So the thing I give Tony a lot of credit for, and Tony played, I believe that,
Starting point is 00:49:16 and you all correct me from wrong, I believe that in 1996 team, if I'm not mistaken, had 10 NBA guys. I could be wrong on that, but I think I'm close. I believe that's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:33 If it's not exact number, it's very close. Sure. So I believe you had 10 NBA guys on that team. Unbelievable. And so Tony, you know, had to deal with fitting into, what legitimately is one of the most decorated raw, of all time.
Starting point is 00:49:53 You know what I mean? In terms of just like a team that won at this level and then a bunch of guys went on to be successful pros. That's a very rare thing. But I think there were 10 pros on that team, 10 NBA guys. So Tony had to fit into that. So I always think of a guy like Tony and it's like, okay, if you put him with a team where he's the show,
Starting point is 00:50:13 where he doesn't have to defer, right? Well, he doesn't have to fit in with this immaculate collection of talent, what do his numbers look like? So I give a lot of credit to guys like a Tony dope because who you're playing with matters so much. And of course he could have done more somewhere else. He did a lot in Kentucky, but could have done more if he had just said, let me go to a place where he let me take every shot and I get to shine. So I like Tony's a good one, man.
Starting point is 00:50:39 But like the argument for John Wall would be he played with five first round draft picks. First round draft picks. He did. I think, again, the one and done era. It's hard, right? Because I don't want to knock all those guys. Like, I don't want to discredit those guys and say you didn't play long enough to be included. At the same time, you know, Tony was playing with sophomores, juniors, seniors,
Starting point is 00:51:04 due to in this era, maybe they would have left after one year. But those were some pretty mature dudes. You know what I mean? And that was just, it's just a different era. But the talent was more experience. So I'm not saying it was easier for John Wall. but this is more of the raw talent era versus, I mean, those guys in the mid-90s were seasoned,
Starting point is 00:51:26 you know, like those guys were ready 100% to go to the next level. See, that's interesting. Interesting. So Dan isle, Anthony Davis, and we still don't have a lock, it feels like beyond that. It feels like, you know, people are kind of all over the place.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Yeah. About who could be that. I'm going to offend somebody. I'm pretty confident in that, no matter who I pick, right? Like, there's no way for me to do this without making someone upset. That's fair, right?
Starting point is 00:51:54 Yeah, but I mean, that's the thing, though. You want people to talk about it and debate it. And that's part of the fun of putting out all these lists. Everybody's got a different opinion. I won't be able to debate, but I also want, to me, a list like that, the important thing is that people say it's valid no matter what you pick. And that's why the locks are so important. Like, I feel like if you get the locks down, you're okay.
Starting point is 00:52:17 You know what I mean? If you get the three players, four players, players who have to be on that list, you're good. But if you miss those guys, people laugh you, laugh at you and say they don't respect you. We'll be back after this break on KSR. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.
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