KSR - 2025-07-15- KSR - Hour 2

Episode Date: July 15, 2025

Myron Medcalf joins Ryan and Shannon to talk Kentucky' All-Time starting 5 and take your calls.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yeah. No one's going to touch that. That's ridiculous. No. Kenny Skywalker. Yep. Who, like, I don't know what he does for a living, but every time I've been to Rupp Arena,

I feel like Kenny's job is just being Kenny. That's it. Like, I just see him surrounded by groups of people. Every time I go to Lexington and he's just hanging out. And I hope that's his job because, you know, that's a cool thing. That's what, I've been talking to a lot of coaches about this, fellas, one of the problems with the transfer portal era that I think people are not talking about. Number one, I think there are a lot of kids who are not getting their degrees and we're just not

hearing about it yet, but we will hear about it in the years ahead. Because there's a bunch of these guys who are, they're transferring athletically but not academically. So I wonder what happens when a bunch of these kids, a 10 years from now, if things aren't academically in order, you don't have a degree, where does that leave you? I won't name the coach, but a really, really prominent coach told me recently. He told me every single week,

and this is an SEC coach, every single week, he gets a call from a former player who needs money. Right? Wow. Every week, he gets a call from a former player who is in need of money. And we're not telling these stories in the portal.

But I think the other thing that I think people are maybe missing from the portal conversation is a school like Kentucky, let's say. Every time I go to a game, there are former players who come back, who are honored, but I don't think that's the real story

of Kentucky basketball. How many guys just moved back to Kentucky when their careers were over and maybe they're working a sales job? But like, they're going to be good for life because there's a community, to support them because of them spending two, three, four years, maybe five years at the same school. I think some of the portal kids maybe don't understand how valuable that is.

So I was talking to Tom Izzo. Michigan State has this thing where every summer everybody comes back. All the Michigan State guys come back. And it's a whole thing. What is home now for this generation of players, man? I don't know the answer to that. Now, granted, if you go to a school as a transfer and you lead them to a final four, you're always going to have a place probably, right, in that community.

But if you go to a school for a year and they get bounced in the second round, you know, you're a footnote. You know, you're the fine print in the brochure, I feel like. So that's one thing I am curious about guys is without guys playing two, three, four, five. years, forget the debate about whether or not they should be allowed to do that and transfer. I just wonder how this impacts them in their lives, you know, in terms of whether they'll have the opportunity to really attach themselves to that fan base, to that community, when it's all said and done if they've only been there for a year.

I agree. Guys like, you know, Kell and Grady and Davion Mintz that were only here for a year or two, didn't get, you know, feel the love of a big March Madness run or anything. anything like that. I worried too about these guys that Pope just brought in. But I think like, Angley Almanor has decided to play on this TBT team this week. I think that's big for these guys.

If maybe they come back and maybe want to play on that team and feel the love. Khalil Whitney even said that this past weekend. He said, man, I just want to feel the love and earn the love back of Kentucky basketball. You know, I want to feel that again. I think, I think that's maybe, Shmiring, maybe as they get older, they'll maybe want to come back and appreciate it again.

Yeah. Well, and I think Kentucky obviously does a good job of embracing those guys. You know, there are a lot of maybe teams that don't necessarily have that. You hear a lot of guys from Kentucky say they want to come back, they want to be a part of the fan base. And whether it's a TBT or just going to a game, things like that matter to them. But I don't think it's like that across the country, you know. Like I don't know that the dude who's been to, you know, three schools and four years

and has never been to a second weekend. I don't know what the 35-year-old version does of him does if he needs a fresh start. You know, like I'm thinking more of the life stuff that I think a lot of times are just overlooked, man. I can't tell you how many players I know who were good players at their schools and things went south in life. And you know what? They went back to that community. You know, they went back to that. They were maybe on the coaching staff or I know guys who went back to school.

and got their degrees and they're just kind of hanging around the program. And the program has embraced them. And I just, I just think there's value in that. And, you know, I don't know what that means necessarily kind of in the portal era. But I do think it's something for these guys to consider. It's like, you know, you're not going to be 22, 23 forever. You know, you're going to be 31 day and 41 day. And I think having those connections can really have value.

Before we get to some of the calls, this all-time starting five. with Kentucky. I've looked up top scores of all time. We talked about Dan Essel, Kenny Walker, Jack Givens, 2038, just below Kenny Walker,

who Ryan, that's your lock, right, Jack Givens. I didn't realize Keith Boggins was fourth. The leading scoring guard in UK history

is Keith Boggins. How about that? I didn't realize Keith. I didn't realize Keith was fourth. Yeah. My goodness. Four year guy, you know?

I mean, he was a year after the tubby run, right? Yeah, his senior year was 03, I believe. He was consistent. He was very consistent. I don't realize Keith Bogans was fourth. And then Tony Delke, number two, I mean, number five, right below him. So here's a guy I've never heard. I didn't know about this.

So I don't know there are a lot of great players in Kentucky history. First I'm hearing about Kevin Grevy. Oh, my. I haven't heard that name come up. Yeah. But Kevin Grevy averaged 21 a game for three years in the 70s. I mean, and was a first round pick. So I don't know.

I mean, that's pretty impressive. He averaged 18, 7, 21, 9 as a sophomore, 23.5 as a third year guy, I mean, back when we didn't have a three point line. Like, what do you do with guys like that, fellas? Like, what do you, you just ignore it? Because that wasn't as, I mean. Yeah, it makes you wonder, like, how much some of these guys would be averaging if they had a three point line.

You know, like those numbers of 23 a game could have been close to 30 a game. People that are a little older than me, Myron, like maybe people like in their early 60s, they love Kevin Grevy. He's one of their favorite players of all time, but he kind of gets lost in the shuffle. We're talking about these great players, because I don't know, maybe because he didn't win a championship. Close that one year, but the 75 team.

I mean, Kevin Grevy averaged more in his career than Jamal Mashburn. Like, he averaged more than anybody we're talking about other than Dan Essel. He averaged more points per game than those guys. And I know points aren't everything. But like, that's a pretty big number over the course of a career to average 21. There are many guys in NCAA history who've averaged 20 a game over three years. And then he was a part of the era where didn't play as a freshman because freshmen weren't playing.

And so he's got these three years. But my goodness, I feel like that's something that shouldn't be overlooked as well. You know, Mashburn and Wall, they have that edge, too, that they came along when the program needed him to come along. You know, the Mashburn came when when Matino came in to help reinvent the program. Wall came when Cal came to reinvent the program. So I think that carries a lot of weight too on how people feel about these all-time players. Yeah.

Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, you know, all of these guys are all strong candidates, right? Oh, yeah. We can't go wrong. There's no wrong answer. So, Tashon, why did I? Why don't I feel like Tashon was on the title team with Tubby? He wasn't?

No, his last year was 0-2. He came in right after that. He was the class that came in right after they won. Okay. It's like him, J.P. Levens, Todd Tackett, Julius Kamara, and Desmond Allison, I think, was the class. Tashon was also an incredible defensive player, right? Yeah.

How was, I mean, he's kind of like, you know, four-year guy, obviously played at a really high level, developed and grew, certainly at that. position. But again, from a talent perspective, Mashburn to me feels, it's hard for me to imagine putting somebody over Mashburn based on sheer talent.

And Mashburn has more career points, but I don't know, man. This is going to be hard. It's going to be interesting to see. So who's the team you're getting ready to do? Who's your first one? I don't come out tomorrow. I don't know if I'm supposed to say.

I mean, it's not a big deal. But I mean, yeah, come out. I don't know the rules on that stuff. But, um, Give me our first caller on this terrific Tuesday. Who we got? Let's go to Grover. Grover, what you got on this terrific Tuesday, man?

Hey, guys. I was a manager on the 6970-71 teams. Of course, Dan Isles, my teammate. But I got a guy that guard who's the all-time leading score at Kentucky as a freshman without a three-pointer. And that's Mike Casey. Mike Casey needs to be remembered because he was a. And he didn't have a three-pointer. But he's still the all-time leading score as a freshman at UK without a three-point.

Yeah, that's pretty amazing. Again, I looked up Mike Casey because he's on that list too. Mike Casey averaged 20 a game in 67, 68, 19 and 68, 69, 17 and 7071. I mean, those are big numbers. You know, he had to sit out his senior year because he was in a bad car wreck and broke his leg in four places. But he did come back as a senior and made all SEC. And, of course, being my teammate, I always think of Mike. Mike's not with us anymore.

But I just wanted to mention his name. No, I appreciate it. No, Mike, again, Mike's top 10 all time in Kentucky history points per game. I mean, 18. You know, here's another guy on that list, fellas, who is right below Mike Casey. We do with Pat Riley. Pat Riley average 18 a game. And never gets brought up in these discussions.

We always think of him as a coach. Don't even talk about him as a player. It's 18 a game. And I want to correct something Grover said. The all-time freshman leading score for one season as a freshman is Malik Monk. I think Casey was the all-time freshman leader before. freshman could play varsity basketball. But the all-time overall freshman

scoring leader in one season is Malik Munk. Who, by the way, had the most overlooked SEC player of the year run ever, right? And Malik Mike put up crazy numbers and like just, I think people forget how good

he was. Yeah. In the one year that he was at Kentucky, man. Like, so much talent, man. So many talented guys. Who's our next caller? Judy. Hey, Judy, how you doing on this terrific Tuesday? I'm great. How are you all?

Doing well. Doing well. What you got for us? I'd be overlooking. I've got a bobblehead of Kyle Macy. Ryan mentioned Macy. Ryan mentioned Macy. Yeah. Ryan mentioned Kyle Macy. Yeah. Then Kyle Macy should be on that time.

He was fantastic. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Well, that's what I got to tell you all today. No, I appreciate that. Okay. Thank you, Judy. Well, but you all, you all strongly disagree about Kyle Macy, though.

Like, Ryan said the name and Shannon, you said absolutely not. No, I mean, Macy was great. And maybe part of that is I didn't grow up watching Macy. So I think there's also some of that bias that goes into it as well. You know, if you grew up watching a guy in your mind, that was your guy, right? For me, I'm not going to say I grew up watching John Wall, but I got to see John Wall play a lot more than I saw Kyle Macy play.

So just, you know, seeing highlights of Macy versus remembering John Wall, in my mind, Wall was a lot better. But, you know, that's why we have these debates. Everybody gets a different opinion. Well, and I do respect the idea of, like, here's the problem, like with the team like Kentucky. you have to acknowledge the past generations, right? Like this is a program where you can't put a list up and not have Dan Isle if you want people to respect it.

At the same time, I can't just ignore the last 20 years or 15 years of one and done basketball players because they didn't stay as long because some of those guys were very, very good. So I think it's about that balance, right, between identifying past and present. But I think the 90s guys are the hardest one. to figure out. You know, I think that, like, no one even said Antoine Walker, right? His name hasn't come up at all.

And I mean, Antoine Walker, how many teams could have an all-time list? And Antoine Walker wouldn't be mentioned. What is he the fifth pick in the draft or something, eighth pick in the draft? You know, like how many guys? Now, granted, Antoine really had that one big 96 year. Like, I think his freshman year wasn't, he was okay. He was good, but he wasn't. what he became in that second year.

But I mean, a guy with a championship, a guy who was one of the best players on that 1916, how do you have a conversation without him? Yeah, you know. But we have certainly done that. All right. Give me another call before we go to break you. All right.

Let's go to Tristan. Tristan, what are you got on this week for Tuesday? How are you doing? So first of all, I'm going to agree with you all about the one, the four, and the five. I think that's pretty much set. So that leaves the two and the three. And I would like to submit these two names.

For the number two spot, you've got to have the greatest shooter in the history of the school, and that's De Ron Lamb. And for the number three spot, you've got to have one of the greatest defensive guards ever to play here, and that's DeAndre Liggins. Put some respect on their names. Oh, my goodness. Myron. Myron.

Tomorrow, guess who's going to be on the show tomorrow? DeRondland and DeAndre Liggins, both on the show tomorrow. How'd Tristan know that? He must work for those guys. So on the show, do me a favor when they're on tomorrow. Ask them that same question. Okay. Ask them about their starting five and who would be on it.

Because, you know, I mean, we're just talking about Malik Monk. Again, how many guys would be SEC player to year? I think you average 20 a game in the SEC. And you wouldn't even mention him once in a conversation about all-time great. It's like how many teams would have that situation? Yeah, for sure. There are not many teams. So we're going to talk more about this.

Please keep calling. I want to know your all-time teams. I'm trying to figure out my locks. Help us out after the break. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending. Opinions are flying.

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We're doing this all time starting five and people are tweet me. And I want to get to a couple of these calls before the break and then we'll keep going. I remember being in the arena. Magic Johnson, Rob Polinka, I represent the Lakers. And they're there because Lanzo Ball is playing Dierran. Fox, right? Yep. And they're both about to go into the draft.

And I even asked, I was like talking to Magic Towns. I said, hey, what do you think about these guys? He was like, man, I can't comment, whatever. And De Aaron Fox cooked Lonzo. If you all remember that game. Oh, yeah. The Aaron was the best guard on the floor and there was no conversation about it. And you know who hasn't come up in our conversation about anyone?

The Aaron Fox. The Aaron Fox? Yeah. And if you want to tell me who are the fastest human beings I've ever, ever seen with a basketball in their hands. He's on the short list. John Wall is number one. I think Derek Rose is probably number two for me.

I don't know that you're going to find three guys quicker than the Air and Fox, right? But he doesn't even come up because that's just how much talent you have in the Kentucky tree. Who's our first call? Let's go to Bruce. Bruce, how you doing on this trip on Tuesday? Great. I'm going to throw you guys a cruise. curve. If the criteria is

athleticism, then you've got to go with like, say the Fab 5 of Michigan. They were by far the best athletes, but yet they never won a single championship. So I'm going to throw this out. I'm going to go with championships. And the best at Kentucky is Wayne Turner. He was starting point guard three years in a row

or at least got in a lot. and he had two championships and one runner up. Wayne's, I mean, again, if it's achievements, fellow, fellas, right? Like, I mean, that's a conversation. His achievements, we have to include Oscar Sheewey, player of the year, led the nation, rebounding, you know? But never won a championship. Like, Brady, Brady is the goat as a quarterback,

but really is he the best quarterback physically and statistically. of all time in maybe touchdowns or something like that, but now Mahomes will probably take them over, but is it does Mahomes have to have seven plus championships to be considered as good as

Brady? That's all, I'm just throwing that out. I mean, it depends on the criteria. It's all, I mean, I appreciate it. It's all complicated. Right? I mean, it's hard for me because there's so many strong candidates for Wayne Turner to stand out because there's just,

There's so much competition, you know, right? But again, achievements, it certainly matters, but I also think it can't be the only thing that matters, right? I think in the conversation, because, yeah, John Wall didn't win it, but if we put all the Kentucky players of all time in the gym and you just play out, you know, put everybody on teams, who's going to stand out? Like, John Wall is going to look like one of the two or three best guys in that gym

no matter what. And probably any gym that you would put all-time teams on, I think John Wall would probably look pretty good. We'll be back after the break. Just listen to this voice a little bit.

Come on, Al. Myron needs a moment. We all need a moment. He listens to Al the way you listen to Darius Rucker, Ryan. Man. He's just talking to her. He's just talking to.

You know what I mean? This is, this is you, you know, it's a tough weekend. Just you and your partner sitting in the car. You're just trying to have one of those conversations, you know? He's just, again, Al Green can get you in trouble. He can also get you out of trouble. And that's the benefit. You just got to decide which Al Green you need.

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We didn't fly anywhere. My family had a big family, nine people. So we were always on the road. So like that music that you could just hit play and you could just cruise down the highway, nothing like it, man. And I want people to bring it back. Bring back sweet driving music, fellas. Bring back road trip music where you could just cruise, man, and just enjoy your life.

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I'm just telling you what I know. Al Green is here to help. We're trying to figure out these all times. teams. So there is a statistic in basketball called winshares. So win shares is kind of one of those money ball things, but it essentially, it tries to estimate how many wins an individual player contributed to their team's overall record in a season. And it's important because it factors in offensive and defensive impact. You know what I mean? Because a lot of times there are players who don't necessarily have the gigantic numbers,

but everybody knows that they made a major impact, right, when they played. Here are the top 10 winshares guys in Kentucky basketball history. Okay, this would be good. And again, this is a newer statistic. So I want to caution that. It started in the mid-90s. So this is beginning with the 95-96 season until now. So I'm not ignoring guys before 1990.

the stat didn't exist before 1995. But during that time span, number 10, Randolph Morris. Number nine, Darius Miller. Number eight, Gerald Fitch. Number seven, Oscar Sheewe. Number six, Keith Bogan's. Number five, Scott Padgett.

What are we doing with Scott Padgett? Like, what are we doing with the 98 guys, man? Yeah, yeah, they're not even mentioned, not even brought up in these conversations. They're not at the table at least? Like what, I mean? Well, the one guy mentioned Wayne Turner. That's the only guy we've talked about on that 98 team.

Oh, man. That's, ooh, it's tough. That's tough, man. You're not even putting, again, 98 guys for them not to be on that list. It's just, it's incredible that the talent pool is that good in Kentucky basketball history. there's just not room for everybody. So I saw Scott Padgett at five and I'm like, wait a minute. We don't even have Scott Padgett in the conversation.

He's number five. Again, you're talking from the mid-90s until now. Number four, Jamal McGlore. Number three, Patrick Patterson. Number two, Tashon Prince. And the number one winshares guy. Again, this is the number of wins that you contributed to your team. over the course of your career

based on your offensive and defensive impact. You guys have any guess as to who number one is? Give me your best guess based on that criteria who number one is. Oh, gosh. Ryan, do you have a guess? I'll say John Wall. I'll go with Wall.

Ryan. Okay. John Wall, Ryan? I feel like the way the list is played out, like the Cal guys are at the end of the list and the four-player guys. So I'm going to have to say it's probably Wayne Turner. Chuck Hayes. Chuck Hayes.

Chuck Hayes is number one in winshares all time in Kentucky basketball history. Now again, it's a newer statistic. There's a whole generation of players who are not included in that. But Chuck Hayes is ranked over Tachan, over Scott Paget, over Keith Boggins,

over Oscar Sheewe. And over, you know, all the guys who have played since that time but he didn't come up at all, right? I mean, Chuck doesn't come up. And Chuck, one of the best rebounding, pound for pound, one of the best players

in the last 25 years. I mean, the dude, he was listed at 6'6, how big was Chuck Hays, really? Was he 6'4? Maybe. You know, maybe 6'3. Not many guys have ever rebounded the way that he did

was just a tough guy. Again, the numbers don't show it. But to be a consistent double-double guy, which he was, says a lot. But he's also a guy where the numbers may not pop out, but the impact on the court was clearly there. So I just think it's just kind of hard to figure out who to put in this list. I feel like I opened up a can of worms and maybe made this more difficult had I not mentioned this, right? had I not said what do people think, but, you know, we're also getting some good feedback. We got a call here.

Yeah, phones are loaded. Let's go to Bob and Jamestown. Bob, how are you doing on this terrific Tuesday? I'll tell you what, after four trips to the driver's license bureau get my wife a real ID, the Letty and Boo Six and Somerset is making it happen. Three trips to Columbia, I'm going to tell all my friends go to Somerset. Anyway, we mentioned Kevin Grevy. Kevin Grevy, I went through junior high and senior high with him.

I was right a year behind him. And he was, I mean, Kevin Grevy, his dad was on Xavier's team. And his nephew, his sister's son, Ryan Hogan, got recruited by Petino. But then you know what happened when Gillespie came? Anyway, I put Kevin Grevy out of list. Marvin Gay, put some Marbury Gay on you. You want to make things, Cruz. That's true.

Or some temptation. Good talking to you. Wait a minute. Hey, Bob, hold on. Hold on. I hope you're feeling well. I know you had some health issues recently. We're all pulling for you, man. Hang in there. Oh, no, everything went good. No, no stent needed, nothing, 100%. It was really good. That was some good news last Thursday. Anyway, Ryan, everybody, have a good summer. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. You know, he mentioned Marvin Gaye. Don't add any Marvin Gaye to your collection. unless you got an extra bedroom ready for the baby that's coming. That's the only problem with Marvin Gay. Marvin Gay is nine months from now,

you're going to have an addition to your family. You don't just go to Marvin Gay, and people make that mistake sometimes. Al sets the stage for it all. Like, Al gets you back into everything's good, everybody's happy, and then you decide when to add Marvin Gay, But don't skip out green and go to Marvin Gay. You know, you're not ready for that because that means, again,

you're going to need an extra bedroom, maybe a new house. I don't know, a minivan, because that's the impact of Marvin Gay. Who's our next call? Dustin. Dustin, what you got on this terrific Tuesday? Hey, guys. Can you hear me? I got you, Dustin.

You got us? All right, buddy. Hey, so here's my five, and then I got a question for you. So my five is Dan Issel. Yep. AD. Yep. Antoine Walker.

Okay. Mashburn and Givens. And then my question is this, is if you had a Mount Rushmore, who's the four, not including coaches you would put on the four? Mine is Givens, MASH, AD, and Istle. I mean, I appreciate that call.

I don't, you know, again, I think there's a case to be made that you have to include Jack Givens. I think there's a case to be made that you have to include John Wall. It doesn't feel like you can include both, right? And I think that's the challenge. Like Ryan, you were saying Jack has to be on there. Shannon's saying Wall has to be on there.

At the end of the day, I feel like I got to pick one. You know, you can't have both. Yeah, that guy's list didn't really have a point guard. He had Givens as the playing point guard. guard is sounding like. I think the big debate is definitely who's your point guard and who's your shooting guard. Well, and I think to me in this positionless era, like, I don't know, you know, I don't know that you need true positions as much as you need the five best guys.

You know what I mean? Yeah, good point. So, I don't know, man. It's going to be difficult. We got time for one more call? Let's do one more. Gary and Orlando. Gary and Orlando.

What you got? Hey, great talk is in your, Myron. You too. Getting back to what you were talking about, the players that come back and how the state takes care of them. Joe Hall used to tell him when they came in as freshman, he would say, guys, you keep your nose clean, stay out of trouble, go to class, come to practice, work hard, and the state of Kentucky will take care of you the rest of your life. And I think we've seen that with a lot of players in the past. they come back and they're leading pretty good lives. And Jacob Tammy's doing a pretty good job for us, too.

The other thing is, is I did a benefit show last week for a musician that had passed away. And there was a lot of Jimmy Buffett and a lot of country music. But the guy that stole the show was the guy that volunteered to show up and play. And his very last song was Barry White. You know what I'm saying. Have a great day, guys. Yeah. Yeah. So again, Barry White is another, you got to do Barry after Marvin because that's number two is coming.

You know what I mean? Now you need two rooms if you're going to add some Barry White. As a matter of, you have to move out of the neighborhood. Now you've got to move to a whole different neighborhood in a new house. We'll be back after this break. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo.

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Amel. Tied off on my own. Won't you help me? Even think about the way he said it. Won't you help me? He didn't say, hey, can you stop by? He said, won't you help me just as soon as you care? I love, love some Al Green, man.

This show has been fun. Talk about the all-time team, my cousin James. Always a fun ride. We got to knock out these live reads, though, here. Right before the end of the show. Let's do it. The segment sponsored by Shady Ray. Stop overpaying for sunglasses and check out Shady Ray.

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But I've been betting every game for the Rockies to lose. I mean, just $2,000, but every year. Every single game I've been betting the Rockies to lose. I feel like that's a smart bet. It's a smart. They've lost like 75 games through the All-Star break already. So you've won a lot of money then? Well, like I said, I only just bet $2 a time, so you win like a dollar.

So you win $75. Yeah, you don't win a whole lot of money. But that's, I've been doing that. But tonight, the All-Star game, I'll ask you guys, the over-under, Paul Skeen's strikeouts is one and a half. He starts for the National League. Over under is one and a half. He's going to throw what?

How many pitches he's going to throw? He may only throw one inning. Yeah. Two innings tops. I'm going to go under on that. I bet the under. Yeah, I'm under. I'm under.

It depends on how many innings he's going to go. He goes two innings. He may have to get two strikeouts. Yeah, but you got to remember, he's facing the best hitters out there too. He's just going to be throwing fastballs. I don't think he'll throw a lot of junk, will he? Probably not. No.

I don't know. I think it's interesting. I think it's interesting. No, and I'll be watching, man. It was cool to see Cal Raleigh blast home runs yesterday. I mean, pretty remarkable what he's doing, almost tied with Barry Bonds, most home runs before the break. So before we get to a few calls before the end here,

and always, yeah, thanks, as always, you know, for having me on, let me fill in. I got a tweet that was interesting. Yeah, no, always fun. So I got a tweet that's interesting from someone, and I want the opinion of you two on this. Who coaches this all-time team? Ooh.

Oh. Mm. Right? Yeah. I mean, if we're counting championships, I think you go Rupp. Rupp's got to be the coach, even though he coached like none of these guys but Istle. I think you still have to get on the way he did. But doesn't that factor into it though?

But doesn't that factor into it? Now, granted, I understand the origins and the success and also the, you know, kind of being credited as the godfather of everything. I don't know me personally. And again, this is just in my lifetime. There's K and there's Patino. If you tell me it's just about coaching. Like I get a coach, I get to pick, to lead a team, no matter of the situation, no matter of this scenario.

X's and O's, I'm actually probably picking Patino first. I think he's that good. But that's a fun question too, right, in all this. Who would lead this team once you get all that set? So a lot of unknowns. No way we would pick Patino a couple years ago, but now we kind of like him again. So I think people would maybe argue that Patino could coach the team. Love him or hate him, though.

He's a hell of a coach, regardless of what you think about. One of the best. One of the best. I mean, not many guys have succeeded everywhere. And oh, by the way, he also won like a European championship while he was away from college basketball. True. Not many with that resume. We got a call next.

Who we got? Let's go to Joey. For the end of the show. Joey, what say you on this terrific Tuesday? Joey, we got Joey. Do you hear me? Yeah, go ahead, Joey. We got you now.

Hi, can you hear me? We got you, Joey, you got us? Hello? Joey, go. We're moving on. We're moving on. James is next. Joey, you're going on.

Joey's on one of those phones you got to put the minutes on. James. James, what you got for us on terrific Tuesday? Well, for one, mine, and I want to tell you, I always listen to you, and Matt on Sunday morning, so I really enjoy that. Also, I own two sports stores, one in Orangeboro, one in Bowling Green, and I drive back to the horse, listening to KSR just about every day. So I really enjoyed the show.

I think in the top five conversation, maybe you need to throw in Rex Chapman. Maybe I'm just a little biased because I, you know, I live in Owensboro, and, of course, I went to Apollo High School where he went, and they called the house at Rex built. So anyway, I guess I'm a little biased, but, you know, Rex had 9,000 points in his 12-year NBA career. Well, I mean, he's two years at Kentucky, and not many guys, I mean, put up those numbers either. So, yeah, it's interesting. A lot of guys that choose from probably just too much, man, talent.

It's going to be, it'll be hard to pick. Would you guys put Rex Chapman on? Not in our starting five, but he definitely is mentioned, like, for the second team and third team. He's definitely on the bench. Yeah. Yeah, second team, I think that. Second team might be harder than the first team, honestly. I mean, second team is going to be, that's where you're really going to leave out.

Yeah. At some point you get to the cut line where they're not even on the team, you know? You get your starters, you get your bench players, then you've got to have a cut line of guys that don't make it at all. Wow. Just wild stuff. Well, this has been fun, man. Everybody is always cool to come in, yeah, and fill in for Matt Jones. I want to say something real quick, man.

I hope you go out and embrace everybody in your world in your life. This last week, my best friend has gone through this unimaginable tragedy. I won't mention the details, but it was a reminder of just making sure you appreciate everything that you have with you right now. You know, who knows what tomorrow holds next year, all those things that we get caught up in. But make sure the people in your life today know how much they mean to you today. Not tomorrow, not next week. And you know what?

Put away the drama. You know, solve it. Call that person. Tell them you love them. Say I'm sorry. Move on with your lives. Have a great terrific Tuesday, everybody. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy.

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