KSR - 2025-07-22- KSR - Hour 1

Episode Date: July 22, 2025

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Welcome, everyone. It is Kentucky Sports Radio. Tuesday, July the 22nd. I'm Matt Jones here with a full house. We got Ryan Drew. We got Shannon. Mario is roaming around with his phone ready to do his thing. You can give us a shout on the Clark's Puppet Shop phone line.

That's 859-2-80-22. A Vision Auto Glass Text Machine is 77724-254. And this is sponsored by the T.J. Smith Law Office. You call T.J. He'll make them pay. I'm on day two of my four-day marathon of yapping, doing the show in the morning, ESPN at night, and then taping a couple of podcasts during the day. So a lot of talking. Very excited last night when the show was about to start right,

found out Big Dallas Cowboys story. That's what I wanted. You know when you go on national radio, let's talk more about the Cowboys. Got to do that last night. Well, you guys don't talk enough about Dak Prescott and the Cowboys. This was Jerry Jones said that Michael Parsons could just get in a car wreck. He was like, well, why should we give him a contract? What if he gets in a car wreck?

And I thought, do you show? Why speak that into existence? When that happens, who he thinks that'd be suspect number one? I think that's probably true. So we got to do that. And then you also had the best. the Bengals, those. The two big topics were him and then the Bengals owner

saying that, I guess their first round pick, he didn't want to sign him with a, he wanted to make sure he didn't get into, quote, any foolishness, which is exactly what a 90-year-old man would say. Don't you get into any foolishness. They don't want to pay them if they get in trouble.

Yes, don't go. But I like that he used the word foolishness. Because that's really something an old person says, don't you go out there getting into any foolishness. I don't know the last time I've even heard somebody use that word. I think my grandparents used the word foolishness. They would say, you know, anytime you're out at night after 10 p.m., it's just a bunch of foolishness.

And so they didn't. So, you know, those were the two big topics last night. It was fun. And you had to stretch those two topics into how many hours? Yeah, I just ended up talking about others. I mean, if you haven't listened to Myron and I on Sunday mornings and now we're on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, this week from 7 to 10. It's just KSR, but me and Meyer and a little less TBT and a little more everything else. A little more Jerry Jones.

A little more because I just, I can't talk about that stuff. So we end up talking about other things. And, you know, I've fully transferred ESPN into I'm just going to talk about whatever I'm going to talk about. We're currently living it. If we had to keep talking about it, I have already hit my max with the Bingle's owner and Jerry Jones, Micah. And then there's another three more segments of this. I think there's another hour 45 to go. I have fun of that.

So, yeah. Well, all right. So I think the biggest story in UK land today is, is this whole question of the revenue situation, right? So let's go through the, let's go through the little timeline. We'll start with the Matt Norlander comes out yesterday. He has been at the peach jam, which is where it's not just now a recruit thing. It's where all the coaches get together and it's where these. people find out gossip.

Right. I'm always interested when the national reporters go to the peach jam what they say after because they usually find out a lot of important stuff. And Matt Norlander writes, he's talking about how, and if you've been listening to this show, Ryan, we've been talking about this for a while. The Big East could spend all their money on basketball and the coaches in the other conferences are worried. That's right.

They don't have football. Basically, they're worried that Villanova, Yukon, St. John's are going to just have so much bigger rev share budgets. And they said that this past year, it wasn't a big deal because all these people put their NIL money in before the rev share started. But it'll be a big deal next year. Sure. And in the course of the article he throws in, though, well, except Kentucky.

Because at Kentucky, of the $20.5 million they get to rev share, they're going to spend nine and a half on basketball. Now, the other schools, the number is supposed to be like three to three and a half, which would mean Kentucky is spending triple what any other of the power four schools are spending. Well, that's a pretty amazing number, in part because it would ensure that Kentucky basketball has Shannon any player they would want. Yeah. But then the implication on football is that the football team would have.

five to six million dollars less than every other SEC school, which would be, it would make being good at football even harder than it is now. So that was Matt Norlander's report. Later in the night, I started getting calls from people associated with the university and football. I was on ESPN, so I couldn't take these calls. But you know when you start to see certain names pop up, it's like, okay, there's a message.

They got something to tell you. They got something they need media. So, you know, I'm sitting here talking about Jerry Jones and foolishness. And during the commercial breaks going, well, should I call these people? And then finally, I did. And then I was told by a number of different people that that report is not 100% accurate, that football is getting a substantial amount of money and is getting, I was told the language was competitive with the other schools in the SEC.

So I don't really know how to read that. Matt Norlander is almost never wrong. He texted me later in the night when he saw my tweet and was like, hey man, I'm just telling you what everybody said, and I've confirmed it with a lot of people. So Norlander's basically saying basketball and UK people are saying this. I spoke to football and UK people saying the opposite. it. So I don't really know what to believe. I really don't know what to believe. And I'm not sure what's accurate, but one of them can't be true. So what do you make of it? It's interesting

to hear your angle of the story because I came in thinking that Matt Norlander's report was probably pretty close to being accurate. Did you not read my tweet? No. Why not? I didn't know. Well, Shady, he doesn't read my tweets. You don't want to before the show. You do tweet a lot. I don't tweet that much. I probably have sent two tweets yesterday. You're Mr. Pectacular. I don't just to listen to you say. I do not tweet nearly as much as Mr. Pectacular.

He is a lot more. I don't know. He's a lot more tweetacular than I am. Okay. But now that you've heard that, I think Kentucky would want to have the football team be competitive, but I don't think it's going to be near what the other SEC football schools are going to get.

So I still think basketball gets a proportionately larger share. Do you think it gets three times more? than the others? That's a big number. That's a big number. Maybe double. But if it were the case that basketball was going to get so much more, Drew, wouldn't the football people be up in arms? That's my thing. I find it hard to believe. I think Kentucky will give a little more than most SEC schools than they should. But the number Norlander put out was way too

high. Like basketball doesn't even need that much for one. And then I feel like in the last six months, Stoops has been talking about how he and Mitch are on good terms. And he feels like he's starting to get the sport he wants. If he was getting the percentage that Norlander put out, Stoops would not have been so happy about his status here lately. He would have been on fire at media days of basketball, was getting three times what it is everywhere else. I can just tell you that privately,

when the football program has felt disrespected or felt like they weren't getting their fair share, they may not say it publicly, but they're blowing me up private. Yeah. Okay. Like I'm hearing private. I can't say this publicly, but, okay, this was the opposite.

This was almost saying, I don't know what everybody's talking about. So, I mean, Matt Norlander, he would not make that up. So I am sure the basketball people or the university people that he talked to are saying that. But I also know what the football people are talking about, which gets me to my point. Mitch Barnhart needs to tell people. So when they went to this private, you know, the athletic department is now this private entity.

Right. When I, a member of the university called me when that happens and explained it to me. And then I asked them one question at the end. Are you all going to comply with the rules that require you to release public information? Are you doing this basically to make it to where the public doesn't know where their money's going.

And they said to me flat out, no, we will still release the same things we always released. Okay, I'll take them at their word. But don't you think Mitch Barnhart and the athletic department should tell the fans where the money's going? Don't you think we should know what percentage of our money is going to basketball, is going to football, is going to women's basketball, etc.? Don't you think that's something people should know? Like, we have two completely conflicting reports here.

Yeah. Do you think Mitch Barnhart should tell people what the university is focused on? I do. I'm in that boat that I think he should. I think he'll be fair. I mean, one thing I think he's known for is he's going to be fair to his program. But don't, but fair is in the eye of the beholder. We will have callers who will say,

Sure. Give UK football the same amount of money Alabama and Georgia gets. We will have people. like Shannon, who will say, give it to basketball. I think my number was $9 million when we talked about that in Somerset at the Virginia, if you remember. So Faire is in the eye, the behold. Don't you think Mitch Barnhart, though, owes people the explanation, Drew, of what is true?

Oh, absolutely. That's the whole takeaway from all of this, because yesterday people are fighting on the internet when we don't even know what's accurate. Like fans defending football, fans defending basketball, and we really don't even know the true story. That's about Barnhart, at least you say this is what it is. let fans decide. I mean, right now, Barnhart's only said, it'll be flexible.

Well, flexible's a good way to say it could be anything, right? Like, I mean, flexible's the least meaningful word in the English language when it comes to this, because flexible could mean $20 million to basketball or zero. Well, the timing's good

because a week from Friday's Media Day, football, and he hasn't done it a while, but most times he opens Media Day with his own press conference. Usually. Yeah. This year, I think, especially with this happening right now, a week before Media Day. He's got a set. He has to say, maybe they don't even know yet, but say this is the way we're leaning.

This is the direct. Well, they have to know because they're paying these rosters this year. If they do know, they should definitely say it. I think it's fair to go, hey, we're about to start a season. What I don't necessarily think the general public needs to know what each player is being paid. Okay. I don't know if that's good. But I strongly believe, and you should be.

recording this, Mario. I strongly believe... Wait a minute. Hold on. Of all the times to stop, why did you stop right there? Hey, Matt, what do you strongly believe? I strongly believe that he should say what goes to each program. It is the case that like 10% is going to go to like women's basketball slash baseball. So let's assume $2.6 million is going. Okay. That means there's $18 million left between football and men's basketball. Mitch Barnhart should be telling people

where that money is going. And I think it would be interesting to see where the fans think it should go. 772, 77545254. What should go to basketball? Let's assume it's $18 million because I'm pretty sure 10% is going to go to baseball,

women's basketball, etc. So throw that 10, 2.6 to the side. 18 million bucks, which what goes to what? You got Matt Norlander, saying we're going nine and nine. Yeah, right. I haven't got numbers, but the football people are saying we're going to be competitive with the SEC, which is like 15 and 3. So which is it? That's a big difference.

That's the difference between having the best basketball team in the country and having a football team that cannot compete. What are you going to do? Mitch should tell us. I don't think there's, is there any reason to hide that number? No, not at all. Especially when football is your moneymaker, your budget maker, depends on what you bring in for football. And just so you know, the other SEC schools have acknowledged, not publicly, but kind of privately,

we're doing the 15 and 3. Yeah. Right? Yeah, like everybody's kind of agreed 15 and 30. So when people were telling you that they were going to be competitive, like how. They do not say 15 and 3, but they said, I don't know where people are getting the 9 and 9.

That's not even close to accurate. And that seems pretty outrageous. if they were to go that route. Do you think that maybe Mitch feels like if he does put these numbers out, which I think he should, but do you think maybe he's thinking, well, I'm just going to divide this fan base. I'm going to have football fans hating me. Well, guess what?

Get over it. Like, being a leader does not mean you're always going to be popular. When you make your leadership decisions only to be popular, you know, you're going to get criticism. But I'll tell you this. I'd much prefer him to get up and say it's going to be 14 and 4. It's going to be 13 and what at 5 and explain why and let people know. The worst position is to have it where fans are arguing like Drew said and don't even know the correct information.

And as fans, we need to be able to set our expectations. The football team wins six games, but I don't know if they had $2 million or $12 million. There's a pretty big difference. It's actually not fair to Mark Stoops if he's getting half the money for people to not know that. Competing against schools that are against schools that have six to eight million. million more dollars. People should know that. And by the way, if Mark Pope's getting three times as much money as the teams in the SEC, Shannon, we should know that, right? You better be winning some national teams. You better be winning some games. So I think that they should know. 859-280-22-87.

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Oh, yeah, I see that. So, like, it's really, it's really only for my phone. Because, like, if I'm going to look at these texts, I noticed I was squinting a lot. And I don't want to get those old man lines. Are you going to do, like, the old man thing, like, where you push them down to the bottom of your nose and look down at people? Well, we were at the horse track. We're at the horse track for the oaks. And I had, I had them on.

And my friend tall was like, look at old man Matt, because I did have them on my nose. Like, hey, in the six-house, she was running vest. You can hang them around your neck? Yeah, I can't do that. But so I do, I have to put these on. It's either that or like get like old man lines squinting. So I had to put these on. One person writes, Matt, there you go again, tried to cause trouble in the athletic department.

Why don't you give Barnhart time to address the issues? That's become a big thing recently. people saying about leadership, give them time. Well, how much time do you get? I mean, the season's about to start, right? So, I mean, I'll give him to the next week. But next Friday, he should get asked. And if he gets out there and says it'll be flexible,

flexible's a good way to not answer the question. The question is, what is the amount of money? And I'm fine if they say, well, we don't want to give all the specifics, but we are in line with, you know, I'm okay with that. But like there's a big difference between 9 and 9 and 15 and 3. Yeah. There's a big difference. So my question to you before we go to the phones because we got people on is let's just assume it's $20.6 million.

$2.6 is going to baseball and women's basketball. I think that's I think that pretty much everyone in sports has agreed to do that. Okay. Because some schools are giving baseball a little bit more. But they've all agreed you can't give women's basketball and women's sports. Nothing. True. And you have to have a baseball team.

So let's just assume that's there. 18 million bucks. You're in charge of the athletic department. Not asking you to be goofy. Be real. What are you given to each program? Ryan, you go first. I'm probably going like somewhere around 12 and 6.

12 and 6. So that would be 3 million less than the rest of the SEC in football and double the rest of the SEC in basketball. I think that's what I think most of our fans, once say our basketball program get to that level, be the elite, and less I think 12 main steel were competitive with the other schools in the SEC. 12 and 6. 12 and 6. What about you? I am doing 70% 20%.

So it would be, was that $4 million for basketball? 4-ish, 4 to 5ish, a little over 4. 70 and 20. Oh, I see 70 and 20. Got you. Football gets 70% of the pie. So you're doing 14 and 4. Yeah, little over 4.

Mario, come on up here. What are you doing? Now get on the mic. I'm going to go, let's see. I'll probably go like 80% basketball and then the rest football. So you're going, what, like, 80%? Wait a minute, 80% basketball? Yeah, to get all the money.

Yeah. So you're going like 14-4 basketball only gets $4 million? That's what I'm going to. I mean, you're going to put like a Mac team on the field. He wants to unplug Krogerfield forever. Are you serious about that? I'm serious. So you want 14.

So like you're just saying, I want the best basketball team on Earth and the football. team, who cares? Yes. Okay. All right. Well, that's an opinion. Shannon, what about yours? Yep.

I'm sticking with my number that I had a couple of months ago when we had this conversation. I said $9 million for the basketball team, nine for the football team. If you remember, most people agreed with me. So you want to be on, you want Norlander's report to be true. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

I'm going 12 and a half, 12 and a half, five and a half. I'd like to have enough that we can get whatever basketball player we want. Yep. But I don't think you need nine for basketball. You don't want to be paying your eighth guy, $2 million. Yeah, I mean, I don't think we need. So I'm going to say, and then football at 12 and a half, it'll be almost like the Tampa Bay race.

Like, they can't spend as much as the Dodgers, but if they're smart, they can make the World Series. Yes. So I would say that. That's me. I don't think my $9 million is right, though, because if you see how grateful Mark Mark Stoops is, he wouldn't be grateful if he's only getting $9 million. So I think obviously my number is wrong.

But that's what you would pick. Yes, yes. All right, let's go to Adam. Go ahead, Adam. What would you do? Matt, I would go pretty close to you. I was thinking 70, 30. You're not really doubling everybody's budget for basketball,

but you still got a lot there for football. And that had a question of, you know, I like the idea of putting more to basketball than everybody else. But isn't there a sense of like now you're the New York Yankees, if you spend more than everybody else, If you spend double more than everybody else that, you know, the expectation is there, you better win. You better win. You're exactly right.

But that, I mean, I would argue, and I appreciate the call, that's been the expectation of UK basketball my whole life. The expectation is we put more into the program. We have more fans that go. We care more. At some points in our history, we've cheated more. Like, I mean, like, there is, I think that expectation has always been on Kentucky. Yes. So, you know.

And every year they expect to get another banner. That's the expectation. And while in basketball, that will be a very big expectation. In football, we can be the plucky underdog. We can be the people like Vanderbilt that when we win a big game, it's like, well, they don't spend as much as everybody. It's even more impressive that they win. That's why it's so important people need to know.

If I know my team won in Starkville with one hand behind their back because they had half the budget of the team they're playing, that win, even though it's not a Georgia or Texas, that's going to mean a lot more to be if I know. That's why people should know. Now, I know somebody who's going to disagree, which is Jerry. So go ahead, Jerry. Oh, yeah, I'm at 15 and 3.

Okay. And here's, I mean, outside of fact I like football better, we'll set that aside. How are you going to pay your bills, Matt, because what they're talking about doing is a sure-fire way to be playing the SEC again with a Mac roster and getting killed. And then people don't come. And then people don't come. That's a fair point. Fair point. and UK football fans, once again, four years,

the administration has taken advantage of the fact that UK football fans have been very well in Philadelphia stadium for terrible football. I don't think that's going to happen again. I think that if they do this, how are you going to pay your bills of 20 or 30,000 people in that stadium? That is, I appreciate the call, and that is, that's why you can't do Mario's position. Because if people don't come, football pays for everything else. Football is your budget.

So, I mean, there is. Jerry, while he's frustrated us at some point in the last couple weeks, he's not wrong about that. If you put a team out there that's uncompetitive, that will hurt your budget overall. So that's why this is such a balancing act. But it's also why I would say, Mitch Barnhart, you have to tell people what's happening. You have to know. So at least this debate can be informed with actual numbers.

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although there are some Shannon 9 and 9s. Mario doesn't have a lot of people agreeing with his that I've seen yet. But one person writes, Matt, why don't you make your phone font size larger so you don't have to squint? I don't like that because I don't, when you see other people's phone with the big thing, you can read their text messages. And I don't want people reading everything. Like, you know, you see older people like, you've got these big huge words. It feels like you know what's in their lives, right? And that's just, that's taking another leap farther than life.

Farther than life. Like glasses, okay, that's one chapter you've moved on, but it's not that far into the book. When you're, like recently, I pulled out my phone to look at a menu at a restaurant. And I thought, oh no, I've reached that age. But that's still a small step. Glass is the next step. But if you're doing the large font, you've tapped out. You're one step away from Brill at that point.

You can't do that. One person says, Matt, you're not going to stay young forever. Reading glasses are in your future. It is tough to like, though, when I went to the drugstore, and bought the, what was it, plus one. And I looked, though, but there was like, plus 1.5, plus 2, plus 2.5. And I was like, well, I'm not

there yet. I'm just at plus 1. This is a scientific way to find out your prescription. I didn't realize, though, that you could, I mean, I didn't realize at the drugstore, you know, you go to the, I get contacts and stuff, and you go and you get a very specific prescription. And then all of a sudden they're just like, just get a plus

one. Yeah. And they're up there with the candy, like when you're checking out. Yeah, and it's like 20 bucks for plus one. Two. One person says, Matt, I saw you at lunch yesterday with my wife and saw your glasses. It threw me off a little bit. But I wanted to tell you, my wife said you look good in glasses. Well, that's very nice of your wife. I was eating a hamburger yesterday. Did you have a plus one for lunch or was it just you? That's just me. That's the problem is right now my only plus one at lunch or my glasses. 859-2802287. One person writes, Matt, what if we just

punted on football and got good at every sport but football. I know that wouldn't work from a budget standpoint, but do you think our fans would be cool if we were good at baseball, women's basketball, men's basketball, but just not football. The whole country in the conference care about football. Sticking out your chat, I mean, I love those sports, but sticking out our chest saying we're winning all those when everyone else is competing in football. I don't know if that's where you want to be as a fan. Yeah, I don't know.

I don't think you can do that. Can't. Also, I do think whenever they say what these numbers are, it'll have an effect on how we get coaches in the future. Oh, yes, it does. Because you think a coach is going to come here? If he knows he's always going to be playing with one hand behind his back? You know, so there was that conspiracy theory going around

that one of the reasons Vince left because he knew this was coming and football wasn't going to get a lot of money, so he bolted. Plausible, I don't think that's why he left. But I think if you were making the argument for why Louisville could be in a better position going forward. But the problem for Louisville and schools in the ACC is they better change something to even have the $20.6 million to give away. A lot of schools are not going to have that. Kentucky's going to have it. There are schools out there that are going to struggle to have that $20.6 million.

I'm not sure if Louisville's going to be one of them. We've got to see how stuff develops. But if this had started four years ago when Kenny Payne and Steve Craggthorpe were here, then I think Louisville would have had a hard time coming up with that $20.6 million. On the thing about hires and them looking at where budgets are, it's, quote Mitch, it is fluid, they can slide it a little bit. And I had this thought of, we all agree, Pope will be here longer than Stoops, whatever Stoops' time's left.

Will there be a time where like, we have this big fish? Pope, we got to just slide a little more to football to get it done. And maybe Pope will just have to take one for the team there and help out on making a big hire. Well, and the other part of Norlander's article was, we don't know how much people are going to cheat. Right? I mean, Norlander was like, There's still this belief that the collectives are still going to do what the

collective do. One of the things we've seen is that our collective is crushing it on the basketball side, which I'll say this about Mark Pope John Calapari. Everybody can have their beliefs on who has the more exciting style play, who gets the players you want, who will have the most success. Here's a fact. It's indisputable. You cannot argue with it.

It's a fact. If we had still been rolling with Calipari in this new era, we'd be in trouble. Because the collectives with Cala Perry were raising no money. None. People were out on it. And if we were trying to go into this new era with the excitement we had with Cal, we'd have no shot. Now, could we still get high school guys? Hopefully.

But remember, they launched the Law Familiar Collective, and it raised like 31. It's still up. It's pretty embarrassing. Just please, if you're out there listening, delete the site. It's hard to look at it. It's got the little meter. It's got the meter. Our goal is a million and we have $1,010. Wow. So that's important, I think, to realize how bad it could have been in the other system.

Steve, go ahead, Steve. Hey, you know, Matt, I don't know if it would help Kentucky football. They gave them every dime of the $20 million. I think Kentucky football is just kind of true. and water. They put a lot of money into the facilities. They're paying the coach big money, NIL, and all that stuff.

And they're just really not competitive in the SEC. And I don't know what's going to stop it. I don't know if that's fair. I mean, they weren't particularly competitive last year, although they did win at Ole Miss. But, I mean, we've had a number of years where we were as competitive as we've been in my lifetime. I mean, if you mean competitive like winning the league,

I'm not sure that's ever going to happen. But I think the reason... The last five years, yeah. The last five years is certainly not being competitive. I don't think that's true, though. I had George on the rope several times. When you say they're not...

I mean, we won 10 games like four years ago. I love Kentucky football. But that's not fair, though, to say not competitive. If competitive is win the national championship, then fine. But 10 games at Kentucky is historically a very... rare occurrence. I understand, and that's the reason why Stoops is still there, because he's got 10 wins twice. I mean, man, he's got it made.

But, you know, Kentucky football, Kentucky is a basketball school and a football league, and they're just basically tread and water. You've got Oklahoma in. You've got Texas in. Kentucky is just vis-a-vis those teams. They're not getting better. But the conference is... Well, Oklahoma stunk last year, and I appreciate the call.

But, I mean, I'm not... There's a difference between have we been better in the last two years? And can we ever be good? Those are different conversations. We have not been better in the last two years. Can we ever be good? Yeah, because we've been good before. Now, can we ever win a title?

My argument would be no. But that is what it is. I think part of that is, you know, it's not as important. now as it once was, but we don't produce the players other places do. We are playing a road game in every recruit. Yeah. Right? We're playing a road game in every recruitment. It's gotten better in the last few years. More players are coming from here than used to, but it's still, I mean, our best years, we still have a third of the players in these other SEC states. Up until the last two years, Stoops run has been some of the best we've ever had in UK football

here, ever. Bear Bryant and Mark Stoops said their runs. Last two years have been a little disappointing, okay? Get back on the horse, get to get the job done. You think that's going to happen. I'm leaning that way. I mean, you're grateful. We need $12 million. We need $12 million. Well, $12 million, that was going to be less than everybody. We still need, you know, that's one of three less. That's just a couple players. We can get by without, you know, spend it wisely. It's about how you spend that $12 million. Yeah, we'll develop a couple three-star guys. That's what the Reds people have been saying for years. Mike, go ahead, Mike.

I'm kind of more in the line with Mario, but I know that that's not really. Ben, you just said, like, we're pretty much the same age. So Kentucky's probably not going to win a football championship if you give Mark Stoops $100 million in our lifetime. So just, you know, we're definitely, we've got a chance to win a basketball championship this year. So we definitely need to give football a semi-fire shake. But it don't matter what you give Stoops.

I mean, he's against $9 million now here for himself. And, you know, he's going to blow a game in the end with four, clock management, whatever. Well, that's, you know, I appreciate the call. Let me ask you this. Let's say you got Nick Sabin in his prime at Kentucky, and you gave him $15 million. And all the other schools have $15 million to.

Could he make a playoff at Kentucky? Yeah. I'm in the boat, yes. Something about him, yes. He would figure out a way to get it done. He's the elite of the elite. You think he could? Yeah, because recruits.

would just want to be there because of him. They believe beside all the facilities and tradition. Don't you think Belichick should win? Do people want to play for him as much? But in all seriousness, Belichick, most people would say greatest or one of the two or three greatest NFL coaches ever. But in the NFL.

But I mean, if he, if they're seven and five at North Carolina, then why isn't Sabin seven and five at Kentucky? Well, for me, if I'm a recruit, I'm seeing Sabin has made so many NFL players. That's why he's more attractive. I see him as the path where Belichick hasn't approved of that yet. All right. So let me make the case.

Even though I don't believe this case, totally let me make the case for football. All right. It used to be the case when you weren't paying players that Kentucky had no shot. Okay. We didn't have enough recruits in the state. We had no tradition. Our fans, this was more basketball than football. Kentucky had no shot.

The theory behind a capped salary cap of $15 million would, be now that stuff is gone. And now it's just who can balance the budget better. Now it's the NFL where you can be in any market. It can be Kansas City and Buffalo playing in the AFC championship while the Jets and L.A. sit at home. That's the argument. And so I don't necessarily know that that's true, but that's the argument.

So if you got the right coach, he's got the same salary cap everybody else does, then he's got a chance to do it. I don't know if I believe that, but that, I think there is an argument that Kentucky would have a better shot at doing it in this world than they could have in the previous world. Does that make sense? Yes. Yeah. If you lose Coach Stoops, it's going to be harder to attract a top-level coach knowing that you're coming in and your budget is not as much as the other schools. Maybe.

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I can read it from here. My goodness, old man. She said, I noticed Ryan's being very quiet here. I was not going to participate in that conversation because I am in that category of big text. So you have big old man text. I do, yes. Don't you worry about people seeing them? Don't care.

That's another part of being an old man. You just don't care what other people think. That's true. You are pretty good. Yeah, just read me your last text. Well, I've been texting Keith Madison, former UK baseball coach. And what have you in Keith Madison been saying? Well, I ask him if he's got an old UK baseball jersey.

We can hang in the restaurant, get it framed and hang because we talked about. Oh, that's nice. Have you? And he's got one. He's got what he's going to let us have. Okay. But we should also try to get one from, you know, maybe now. Present day?

Yeah, I'll tell you about that during the break. Oh. Oh, well, now this is more interesting than whatever we're going to talk about. I can't say anything. I'll tell you during the break. Sounds like we have an update. There's something wrong. It must be.

Have you been fighting with Mingione? No. I haven't been. Somebody has? I don't know. I haven't. I've been a big supporter. What's happening here?

Be a fountain out of drain, Ryan. Come on. Yeah. Why aren't you being a fountain? No, I need a chaos bar meeting on the air. Come on. We might as well. I mean, this is going to.

This is important. This is what the people want. It's their restaurant. Yeah. This is the people's restaurant. They're picking the sauces. They need to know about pictures. I really don't know what's going on, but we are unable to obtain a current baseball jersey from

UK. Did you offer to pay for it or did you ask for a free one? We could buy a replica at the bookstore. Like everybody else. What did you ask for? A jersey. You asked for just a free jersey. An old jersey that we can get framed and hang in the restaurant. Okay. Well, I mean, it'd be nice of them to give it, but also I don't expect them to give. Yeah. So did you just get all hoity tooty when they asked? No. Okay. No. Well, maybe, maybe Mingione will hear this. I can't believe he would say no. You made me think there was like bad blood. Maybe you may be mad. Have you all been fighting? No. You're getting red. You are getting red. What's been happening with you and Mingio? Nothing. Is there a Ryan Lim and Mingianne fight that we don't know about? There is definitely not. We even tried to get him on that. Oh, wait a minute. Here we go, Shannon, tried to get him on. And why didn't he come on? When you were on vacation, we had that. So why didn't he come on? He doesn't like you. He was on vacation. Yeah. Sounds like he might not like you.

Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe we should have sent somebody else. Now I know, don't send Ryan to the baseball. No, it's in Mario either. He wants them to have zero dollars. Yeah, that's true. Just to give an example on the recruiting thing real quick, I'm going to read you. Somebody sent me this. The amount of five-star recruits from each SEC state. Are you ready? Ready. Florida, in the last 10 years. Okay. Florida, 59. Texas, 45.

Georgia, 39. Alabama, 21, Mississippi, 9, Tennessee, 8, South Carolina, 5, Oklahoma, 4, Missouri, 3, Kentucky 2. Wow. So we're going up against states that have 59, 45, 39, 17, 14, 19, and we have two. Wow. That says a lot right there. So, I mean, that says a lot. You know, I like to mention when restaurants win awards.

Yes. They had the Shannon top 10 biscuits in America. Oh, nice. Everybody likes a good biscuit. Everybody likes a good biscuit. Top 10 biscuits in America and the Kentucky location came in six. Yes. Okay.

Sixth best biscuit in the United States. Does anybody know where it would be? So these aren't chain places. They're local or is like chain? Well, local biscuit. Okay. Sixth best biscuit in the United States is in Kentucky. Where do we think the six best biscuit is?

I'm just going to throw out spitball some options. Okay. What's that restaurant called in Casey County? You're talking about the Amish restaurant? Yeah. It's like Lord's Prayer or something? I guess that's not it, though. That's not it.

I would have the name right. Do you even remember their biscuits? Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, they're good. All right. Big fluffy biscuits. Okay.

Anybody else? I can't think of any biscuit place? All right, so let me narrow it down. It's in Louisville. Oh, I'm not good at Louisville. Louisville biscuits. Shannon, anybody want to know? I don't go out biscuits shopping.

I'll tell you what. Before I say it, let's see. Well, but people will Google it. Yeah. Never mind. The answer is, butcher town grocery bakery. Okay.

Burture town grocery bakery. Have you been there, Shannon? No. That's not very far from where I live. It's just, you know, it's where they used to slaughter them hogs, Butchertown, the Butchertown grocery bakery, sixth best biscuits in the United States. They are said to be fluffy and delicious and the line can be out the door on Saturday mornings to get the freshest place.

Wow. No kidding. Never even heard of this place. But I will tell you one of these weekends where I have nothing to do, I'm going to find my way to the Butcher Town Grocery Bakery for the sixth best biscuits in the United States. It is. Try those out of us. An update. Take Mario.

Make a little video out of it. One mile from where I'm at right now. I don't know if they're open later, but I might just swing by and get a biscuit. You might just, may I have one biscuit, please, ma'am? I need to see if this is the sixth best biscuit. If you've been, let me know on the text machine. They've got to be good if they're the sixth best in the country. If the line is out the door for it on Saturday morning, they've got to be good.

Jacob, go ahead, Jacob. Hey, Matt. I just wanted to talk about the Rift share. I think that I think Kentucky's kind of magic number is 13 and a half, four and a half. Yeah, that's exactly where I was. Yeah, I think that that is kind of where we need to be.

It gives us a slight edge for basketball while, you know, remaining competitive with recruiting in the SEC for football. I think when it comes to money, we have it in our minds like money is going to equal success. And that's just not always the case. I'm a Pacers fan and they are not one of those teams

that go into the luxury tax for the players. They intentionally get like team players. I might cut you off. We're about to go to break, but I appreciate it. Then there's baseball where money doesn't guarantee success, but not spending money guarantees you won't have success. And they just got to the college world series. The Indiana Pacers?

No, UK baseball team. Don't you want to give some money to UK baseball? We weren't talking about. Major League baseball. We're talking about Major League Baseball. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends.

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