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Drew is off
His wife's
Brother is getting married
Correct
That's right
And so he is in Colorado
And I've got Ryan
We're going to have Mario
Sit with us
Mario, how are you sir?
I'm good, how you doing?
And then Shannon is in Louisville
Got a lot of stuff to get to Ryan
And excited to have you here
He's like our little son
We're just watching him blossom
Right in front of our eyes
You got that little...
What do you mean?
He loves saying that
Why do you like saying that?
He's a grown man
Don't infitentatize
Tiles love to him.
He had that little smile like he was 12 years old.
He's so happy to be here today.
Just like my little son's sitting right there.
Proud of him.
Yes, well, he's not your son.
He's a grown man.
We've got folks here from Russell Springs.
Lexington.
Where are you all from?
Lawrenceburg.
So all over and you can come in and have lunch.
Try our new burger, wings, etc.
Thursday night football tonight.
Guys, yesterday we taped the Cover Zero podcast.
Went home.
I watched a lot of baseball last night.
I was pulling for the Blue Jays.
Vlad, and they won.
They moved on.
You got the other series.
I think we got some game fives coming up.
So exciting stuff for you baseball nerds.
I love it.
I know Shannon and I, we talk about it.
We will try to watch the baseball games.
The Phillies and Dodgers game last night,
both those teams are so good.
Those are like two of the best teams going.
Who won?
Phillies killed them last night.
Okay, so that series is still going.
He's still going, yeah.
Okay.
So tonight you got a lot of good stuff, right?
You got game four of Cubs Brewers, you got Phillies Dodgers, and you got Thursday night football.
That's a big set of games.
We'll have all of them here at the bar.
That's a good set of things to watch.
Who is a giant's Eagles tonight?
A Giants Eagles, which is not bad.
Jackson Dart, were you watching Brony play in the preseason?
No, I didn't.
I've seen some of his highlights on social media, though.
So, by the way, you should know that for Mario, his player is Jasper Johnson.
Oh, yeah.
He's more excited about Jasper Johnson than anybody.
Like in the little pro day, every time Jasper Johnson gets the ball, he says like,
okay, here we go.
All right, are you ready?
Here we go.
Like, he's more pro Jasper Johnson.
I'm like that with Jalen Lowe, though, so I can't get at him, but he's like that with Jaylor.
You know, the clip that the UK Twitter account,
UK basketball Twitter account put out had maybe nine buckets in it,
and Jasper Johnson had two threes back-to-backing.
I think those were the only two shots he here.
Yeah, the whole day.
Well, they showed him.
I think he was good getting the selective picking there.
Do you – it was interesting.
There was an NBA scout yesterday that spoke to KSR that talked about his view of the practice.
And he said that this year's Kentucky basketball team is like, Noah's Ark, we have two of everything.
It's a good line.
Which I think there's a lot of truth to that.
He also said there's going to be one or two guys that end up getting left out.
There's just too many people.
So this is what I wanted to ask.
Let's say there's one guy, and I'm not talking Reese Potter,
and I'm not even talking Yelovich or Hawthorne, right?
So those guys, let's just assume those guys don't get big time minutes.
Of the other guys, because they're not going to play 10 consistently, they'll go 8 or 9.
That's what Pope seems to do.
He's not going to go 10.
He'll probably go 8 or 9.
Of the other 10, who do you think is most?
most likely to be the one that gets the least minutes of the next 10.
So plays six minutes or eight minutes a game instead of 14.
That is so tough.
But you got to pick one.
Who's it going to be?
And let's say Quaintance is playing.
When Clayton's is on the court.
So when he is one of the guys.
I want to say Cam Williams, but I don't.
Why would you say him?
Well, that four spot's kind of weird because you got Trent Noah who can play the four a little bit.
You know, Cam Williams can play the four, and then you got Mo Diabate.
So I'm a little worried about how do you, like, spread the minutes between those three.
So it's going to be Cam Williams.
Yeah, but Cam, there's no butt.
You have to have an answer.
You can't cover all your bases.
I feel like it just depends on who they play.
Well, you still have to pick one.
You know what I mean?
Like, they might need Cam for a – because Camp can shoot the three.
That's the thing.
So who's it going to be?
I'm going to go with Cam.
What about you?
I feel like it's going to be Malachi or Jasper just because,
and I'm leaning toward Jasper just because they are so loaded at guard.
You think there's a chance Jasper's the one that doesn't play.
I don't like that.
I don't like that. I mean, I realize he's going to play a little bit.
He has to play.
Lowell, Otega, Aberdeen, and Colin Chandler are probably all four ahead of him right now.
And you've got Aberdeen too, so.
Yeah.
So you're going to have Jasper Johnson.
I mean, that's a, Jasper Johnson, I don't know what people are making for sure on the team.
again, this is just a guess.
I have not heard real numbers on what people are making.
But I would guess that Jasper Johnson is the third or fourth highest paid player on the team.
Wow.
And so you think, I would say Otega O'Way and Jaylon Lowe are the two highest paid players on the team.
Would you agree with that, Mario?
That's believable.
I think those are probably the two highest paid players.
I would say Jasper Johnson is next.
Yeah. And you think he's not going to play?
They're just so loaded at guard.
I mean, like we just mentioned, Otega, Lowe, Aberdeen, those three guys may start.
Colin Chandler's going to probably play ahead of him.
And by the way, I think the reason those two guys are the highest paid,
Otega gets the money kind of for returning and being good.
And then I think Jalen Lowe, there was not that many point guards out in the portal this year that were really good.
And so I think it was a seller's market in that.
And so I think that worked well for Jail Lowe.
Whereas a guy like Williams or Aberdeen or even Diabate, there were more guys like that.
You had more choices.
Whereas with point guards, there were really only five or six really good ones out there in the portal.
Well, they've done it two years in a row.
Went out and got Lamont Butler who was perfect last year.
I think Lowe will be perfect again this year.
Shannon, which one do you think is unlikely to play?
Unfortunately, I really like this guy with him being from Kentucky, but I think Malachi Moreno
is the guy that we've heard the least about freshman.
I think Brandon Garrison is going to eat up a lot of minutes at that position.
So I could see him maybe getting six or seven, maybe eight a game, but not much more than that.
So my answer has changed.
So if you asked me that answer before I went to South Africa, the answer would have probably been Trent Noah.
And then I had people tell me you're wrong.
Like people around the program.
Like he's going to play.
He's going to get, he won't start, but he'll get like solid seventh man minutes.
So then my answer was going to be Malachi Moreno.
And then I saw it.
And I think he's, I think especially until Jaden Quentin's plays, I think he's going to play.
And now my answer is probably the same as Mario's.
It's going to be Cam Williams.
And the scout said that too.
The scout said, look, he's got the highest floor ceiling of any player.
He has a chance to, if he consistently hits threes, be a first round draft pick in the NBA draft.
Yeah, a lot of mock drafts have him drafted the first round, right?
He also has a chance to not play at all if he's not hitting threes.
So, like, I don't think Mario was wrong.
If he's hitting threes, dude's going to play, and we'll be saying goodbye to him in May
and watching him go to the draft.
If he doesn't hit threes, you can see that in pro day.
You can, listen, I'm pulling for the kid.
He seems like a really nice guy.
But he was the least impressive on the court.
But when I was watching him warm up, he did not miss.
So when they put him in the game, it will be, does he hit the shot or not?
You know, this summer when the TBT guy scrimmaged him,
several of them said,
Cam Williams was the best shooter on the team better than Kobe Brayah last year.
They had a little thing up there that showed who had made the most threes in the month of October.
Now, granted, this is misleading because it's like you don't know how many they shot.
Right?
This is just how many went in.
Gotcha.
And Trent No was first and Cam Williams was second.
Which might have been what people would have guessed.
That means, A, they're taking a lot of shots and B, they're missing them.
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I want to switch gears for a second, talk about the football stuff.
So I was on Ari, Andy and Ari, which is a show, a college football podcast on On 3.
I was on my way to a doctor's appointment, so I had to do it in the car.
I think I made them nervous.
but I just said I didn't hold the phone.
I said it on my dash and drove.
I think it was fine.
Everybody was all worried.
It's fine.
It is kind of a weird look.
I could pull up that clip and he's driving.
You can see like the background is moving.
Well, because I was driving.
That's exactly what I was doing.
Put your phone down.
I did put my phone down.
It was on the dash.
I wasn't holding it.
But I was asked about the $37 million and what we said on the show.
and, you know, I said that I think if we get to the point, the money will be there.
And I don't know if you saw that led to a huge discussion nationally about buyouts.
I wouldn't be surprised if there's an article coming out soon nationally about just the idea of paying these buyouts.
I think I kind of, when I said it, said it without asking your opinion, Ryan.
There's a lot of things you talk about that I don't think you know about,
but you do know about the Lexington social scene and money and donors.
kind of you operate in those high-fulloo worlds.
Well, I didn't say you were part of them.
I just said you operated in them.
Do you think if they, if Mitch, if they go three and nine or four and eight,
and Mark Stoop says, like in Wolf of Wall Street, I ain't leaving?
Do you think they could come up with the $37 million to tell him, see you later?
Lexington seems like it's a small town.
It's a very rich town.
There's a lot of money in this town.
A lot of guys don't flaunt it.
You won't even know it.
But there's enough money to...
Give me a few of those people.
I'm going to keep it to myself.
Shannon, I wouldn't you like to know a few of the people that don't flaunt it to have a lot of them?
Yeah, those are the people that's hanging out with them.
That's exactly right.
Ryan's in the speak easy with all the people with a lot of money.
Maybe you're one of them.
No.
As you door dash.
But to answer your question, yeah, that door down.
That's how he hides it.
He doorknashes and that way people don't know.
So to answer your question, I think, yeah, absolutely.
They could get that money.
They could buy him out if they need to.
Do you, like, how easy is it?
You think it's like they, well, let's put it other way.
A, how easy it is it?
B, do you think it's already been talked about?
I think I would, I don't know.
I'm guessing, yes, I think it has to be talked about.
Coming off the last two seasons we've had here,
I think those conversations are already underway.
You do?
I do.
One of the thoughts, I don't.
I had said for a long time and believed was, look, Mark Stoops' friends with a lot of these big donors.
They're not going to try to do whatever to get rid of somebody that they're friends with.
Do you think his friends, because a lot of these people are his friends?
Do you think his friends would buy him out?
I think they would have a conversation, and I think they would feel good about it knowing that I think Stoops would be happy with it.
I think I think Stoops could be about to get the point, man, you pay my buyout, I'm ready to walk away.
What are the chances he just says deal with it?
All right, so let's say they say, forget about $37 million.
We'll do it for $25.
What are the chances at that point Mark Stoops would say,
well, then I guess I'm coaching next year?
I'd say probably pretty high.
He seems to be pretty set.
So you think he would stay here and coach,
even if he didn't really want to.
To get that extra.
To get the extra pick the amount of money.
money.
Probably.
What do you think?
I totally agree with you.
And I was hoping you had a different opinion.
No.
I think he was going to hold his guns.
Like, nope, we signed this deal, we agreed to this deal, this is what you owe me.
You know, like take someone like Shannon.
Okay.
Shannon I would not call stingy or like selfish.
But if Shannon's owed money,
Shannon's going to get every dollar.
Shannon is old money.
That's right.
When you split, is that fair to say, Shannon?
Sure.
I mean, that's why we had an agreement.
That's the agreement.
No, I agree.
Like, if you go out to eat with Shannon and you're splitting the check and your part
is $18, Shannon is not taking $16.
Or if he only takes $16, he's going to remember in the back of your mind that you owe him $2.
That's right.
That's Shant
Yeah
I think Mark Stoops is like that
Don't you
I actually I do think he's like that
And I think he still kind of
realizes hey man I built this program
We went to eras we've never gone to before
I think that's a big part
Yeah
That's a big part of it
Is he believes
Like
Come on
Yeah I'm almost owed this money
Do you see what I did here?
Yeah
You won 10 games two times
I agree with you
I think he thinks that
Yeah
I think that's going to be hard for him to get past
That's why I think
Look you owe me
this money. I've earned this money. I deserve this money. Pay me my money. Yeah. Well,
859-280-2287 is Ask Anything Thursday. If you have any questions about all of that, I still say, though,
that schedule, which is very hard, don't get me wrong, but I want you to think about when we
looked at the schedule at the beginning of the year, and we looked at this next set of games.
Texas is unranked right now. We thought they were going to be number one in the country.
They're unranked. Tennessee is ranked.
Florida's not as good as we thought.
Vandy and Auburn are kind of what we thought they'd be,
and Louisville might not be as good as we thought.
So the schedule, it's not as bad as we thought.
I still don't know that we're going to win any of those games,
but it's not as bad as we thought.
The Texas game in the Louisville game, I didn't think we're winnable.
Now they are a little winnable.
You think Texas is winnable?
They're kind of struggling right now.
I saw his look right there, Russell Springs.
You don't think Texas is winnable, do you?
I don't think
Paramedia.
What do you think
the spread of that game
will be?
Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
14.5, 15.
I think that's probably what it's going to be.
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And he said we were just talking about the UK football schedule in the future.
You know, Ryan, it came out while I was gone.
Our three regular opponents will be South Carolina, Tennessee, and Florida.
I was hoping for South Carolina, Tennessee and Vandy.
Yes.
But what was more interesting to me is how the schedule gets divided.
We're going to have an every other year schedule.
Like we play a lot of the bad teams in the same year and a lot of good teams.
So I think we have Alabama, LSU and Georgia the same year.
And then the next year we get like Missouri, Mississippi State, and Ole Miss.
So I actually prefer it like that, to be honest with you.
So you have a chance once every two years to actually win some.
game.
Yeah, those home games in 2026 against LSU and Alabama are road games in
2028.
2028, if I'm correct, looks like the hardest schedule.
It was ridiculous.
It was super hard.
If we get a new coach, tell them year three.
It's going to be really difficult.
What are you doing?
I'm trying to find that schedule.
I saved it somewhere.
You don't have it, Ryan.
I got it somewhere.
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5254. By the way, Mario, you haven't talked about. Who stuck out the most to you in the pro day?
Jasper Johnson, number one. And then Malacobarino was, he loves Jasper Johnson.
Dude, you love Jasper Johnson. It's like the way he plays. He's number one. Malacanarino,
though I'm with you. He probably stood out to me more than anybody because he's so much better than I remember.
I watched him last year in high school at Great Cross and went to a few of his games.
Yeah. I was a little worried about like you were worried about him last year.
You said to me last year that you didn't know he could play here.
I am impressed by how much better that kid's got.
I am so proud of that kid because I've seen him since like seventh grade.
He developed where he was playing his absolute best basketball when Great Crossing made the Sweet 16.
He just started dominating.
Like he hadn't done that up to that point, but he finally the light ball went off at his head or something and just started dominating.
He was the best player on the court during all Sweet 16.
A lot of you listening probably went to.
the Sweet 16 to see that Lyon County Harlan County year with Travis Perry and Trent Noah.
And if you did, you probably saw, I think Lyon County beat Scott beat Great Crossing in like
the semi-final.
That sounds right, yeah.
So you may have gone to that game, and Moreno was bad in that game.
That was part of what people, because that was part of what people were saying is like,
how do we not have Trent Noah?
Because remember at that point he wasn't coming here.
Correct.
He's going to South Carolina.
He's going to South Carolina.
How do we not have Trent Noah and we have Moraine?
If that's the last time you saw the kid, be excited about what you're about to see.
It's a different kid.
It is.
It's a completely different kid.
That game, you're talking about what they got beat by Lion County.
He was probably the third best player on their own team.
Not last year.
He dominated.
He was the best player.
He's come a long way because he's worked hard at it.
He's a good kid, good family.
Yeah.
I'm happy for him.
Tomorrow, by the way, we're at Wild Eggs and Hamburg.
Correct.
Wild eggs and Hamburg.
We always have great food.
They usually have a lot of good deals.
it's a good chance to come see us tomorrow.
Shannon will be up here.
We'll have a good time.
You know, we did show at Wild Eggs in Tate's Creek when you were gone.
Shannon went to this one in Hamburg by mistake first.
And then he got there to Tate's Creek.
Somehow we always go to, though.
Then I didn't even know about that one of the one.
Well, I'm looking forward to tomorrow.
That's one of my favorite shows because we get to eat.
All right, who's up first?
Ask anything Thursday.
Let's go ahead.
Michael.
Michael, go ahead, Michael.
First time, long time.
Who up?
So I went down to the,
volleyball game last night at Reed Arena in
College Station, Texas. Yes.
And, dude, the environment there was
pretty crazy. The whole
lower arena was filled.
A student section was going
crazy, and that game was just
amazing to be at. So for people who don't know,
Kentucky's women's volleyball team
won yesterday
against another top
10 wins. Yeah, they were ninth in the country,
right, I think. So they now, that is their
fourth top 10 win of the
year so far, and they
were able to get the win.
So again, Kentucky's win.
They're what, ranked third in the country.
Right.
And another big win on the road at A&M yesterday.
What's your question?
No question.
Just wanted to say that.
And I was also, well, I'm about to get to class.
Okay.
Well, if you have to get to class.
Yeah, and Drew, or Billy and Drew were telling me that I should call in about it.
Oh, okay.
Well, I appreciate the call.
Well, I'm glad you enjoyed the game.
and good luck at class.
You ever been to a game in College Station?
Never have.
No, I wanted to go down there when the football team played down there.
Did you have been down there?
I went to what year it was.
We beat them in basketball on the road.
I want to say it was Antonio Reeves Jr.
year with Kellyn – no, he wasn't on that.
It was the Kell and Grady team.
Okay.
So the Kell and Grady team – that wasn't Antonio Reeves.
Kellen Grady, we beat them down there.
You may remember we got down a bunch early,
and then came back and sort of shut up the arena.
And that was maybe our best win of the year that year.
I was at it.
And that arena was wild.
They do their stupid things with their guys dressed up as sailors.
But put that aside, it's still a very cool environment.
I found the schedule for next year, and we're at Texas A&M next year.
Okay, so read me a schedule next year in football.
The home games are Florida, Alabama,
win, LSU, and Vanderbilt.
I win.
The five road games at South Carolina, at Tennessee, at Missouri, at A&M, at Oklahoma.
Okay, John Short.
Actually, that's a doable road schedule.
Yeah, it is.
Read those road games again?
South Carolina, Tennessee, Missouri, A&M, and Oklahoma.
Yeah.
I mean, but the problem with that schedule next year is the, well, we'll definitely win that game.
There aren't many of them on there.
That's true.
All right, now read me 2027.
Home games are South Carolina, Tennessee.
Gotcha.
Auburn, Georgia, Mississippi State.
See, those are all games with the exception of Georgia.
You could go into the year thinking you could win.
Yeah.
And what are the road games?
At Florida, at Arkansas, at O'Miss, at Texas.
That is a very doable schedule.
Much better than 2026.
For the SEC, can we just fast forward to 2027?
Amen.
If I was a new coach coming in here next year, I'd be building to 2020.
Wouldn't you?
Yes, absolutely.
Because that is a schedule you could do something with.
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This is what Mark Stub's going to be walking in like Shane O. Mac.
Potentially with this flying in the background.
Yeah.
You know, W.W.E. Shannon is in Perth.
I think Max is going.
You know, Max lives in Perth.
Oh, really?
Yeah, he went in all this stuff he picked up in Kentucky.
Max Duffy went and saw Tyler Childers in Perth.
And I think he's going to the W.O.B.
In Perth as well.
How's he doing?
Is he doing coaching?
What's he doing up to now?
He really only writes me about, like, UK football and then random things we laugh about over the year.
So I haven't got to talk to him about, like, I think he's fine.
He's coaching, he's doing, he's working with the group that sends,
Australian punters to America.
So I do think we have an end on getting all the best punters
because the organization that sets all those guys up to come punt in America,
I think he's now going and working for them.
Well, he's got to be happy with Aidan LaRoss.
The dude has been a great punter this year.
He made a big tackle too last game.
He did.
You know that zero rating in his toughness.
One person writes,
text machine, it's Ask Anything Thursday.
Paying a football coach, $37 million to go away as preposterous,
I wouldn't do it on principle.
I mean, I don't disagree with you.
It is preposterous.
It is a bad principle.
At the same time, what else you're going to do?
Cut off your nose to spot your face?
I mean, like, you can't.
Yeah.
If you want them going that bad, you just what you got to do.
And you made the deal.
I mean, first of all, it's not your money.
Secondly, Mitch made the deal.
I mean, you want to be mad at Mitch, then you can be mad at Mitch.
I think that's completely reasonable.
But, like, there's a contract.
The UK football program brings in a lot more than 30.
$37 million a year.
It's a valuable moneymaker for the entire university's athletic budget.
It's football.
It's why you have to be successful.
One person writes, Matt, I'd like to ask Mario.
He's worked with you guys for over a year now.
What does he think about every member of the group?
You want me to go person by person?
Yeah, start with Shannon.
What do you think about Shannon?
Shannon's, I love Shannon, man.
He's very blunt.
He doesn't change his opinion no matter what it is.
That's what I really love about Shannon.
Ryan Lemon, he's the goofy out of the group,
but he's uh inconsistent he's definitely inconsistent but he's he's genuine and he's probably one of
the he's probably the nicest one out the group i would say ryan lemon um drew franklin funny guy
if you're on the road with him uh stay away from him because he he likes the party a lot
but he's he's a good dude overall i love i love me some drew um billy rutledge uh billy doesn't
get talked about a lot he's billy's actually a cool dude i love hanging out with billy
what is shannon say you say you don't get he doesn't get talked about a lot i said that's
for good reason.
You're just crushing Philly all the time.
You're a break.
You're just constant.
And then Matt, Matt is the glue that holds it together.
He doesn't get enough credit as it is.
And I think when he leaves, you really get to see, like, how important he is.
So that's my thing.
Have you enjoyed the job?
Duh.
This is the best job in the world.
This is what I've been praying for.
This is like I want to do content creation full time, and I'm doing it now.
So, yeah, I'm loving the job.
Oh, well, that's very nice.
be our boss someday.
Stop saying, Matt, he says that to everybody.
Why do you say that?
You think they're going to just make us all work for him now?
He's going to grow up and be so big, powerful, successful.
He'll hire me someday.
It'll be my boss someday.
That's nice.
One person writes, Matt, when you discuss the football schedule, you talk about the bad teams, which is fair.
How do you think other teams talk about us?
Guaranteed when.
I mean, when they look at the schedule, they go win.
I mean, we know that, though, right?
Every team in the SEC puts a big W by Kentucky when that schedule comes out.
Every single team.
Yeah.
One person writes, Matt, rate these three opponents in order of who you want to beat the most this year.
St. John's Louisville, Arkansas.
Oh, what a great question.
St. Johns is last.
Like, I'd like to beat St. Johns, but I mean, I don't, like, I can't believe I'm saying this,
but I don't hold any ill will towards Rick now.
I mean, since he's been.
Since he's been to Louisville, he's coached in Greece, he's coached at Iona, he's coached St. John's. Like, I'm good. Like, I want to beat him, but if he beats us, what, I mean, I was pulling for him last year when they played Arkansas in the tournament.
Louisville and Arkansas. It's tough. Both road games.
Arkansas just beat you up last year.
Louisville's probably going to be better than Arkansas this year. I'm going to say I want to be.
beat, but Louisville's at the beginning of the year.
That stinks too.
And I'm going to say I want to beat Arkansas more.
Just because Louisville's at the beginning, it's in November, and so like, it's not
going to really matter, whereas Arkansas could be a game that decides whether or not we
win the SEC this year, honestly, and we lost to them last year.
So I'm going to say Arkansas won, Louisville 2, St. John's 3.
What about you?
I think if the Louisville game was in a different spot, the fact that it's early in the season,
I'm going to lean with you.
I'm going to go Arkansas one, Louisville, 2, St. John's 3, just because Arkansas
beat us at Rupp.
Yeah, last year.
I think any game in November is all.
I mean, remember we lost by like, didn't we lose by like 25 to Ohio State last year?
Yeah, in the garden.
In the guard.
Like, I don't know that games in November.
I mean, the Duke thing was awesome, but I don't know.
The losses don't stick with me as much in November.
Second week in November and you're playing on a Tuesday night.
It is Louisville, though.
Louisville is always going to be number one.
I don't care if they play the game in July.
It doesn't matter when it is.
Louisville is always going to be number one.
So you would rather beat Louisville than Arkansas?
Of course.
I mean, if Louisville's good, you want to beat them.
If they're really bad, you don't want to lose to a really bad rival.
So I think it's always Louisville.
Arkansas number two, St. John's number three.
I'm going Arkansas.
We lost in them last year, and that was a bad feeling, man.
I'm going Arkansas, top of the list.
We've got to get them back.
Revenge.
That's the only reason I don't give Mark Popin A-plus
because they lost Arkansas at Rupp Arena, Cal's first trip back.
You got to win that game.
Yeah, no, if we beat them last year, I don't think I would care.
I'm with you.
If we had beaten them last year, then I would be like, all right, Louisville.
And then North Carolina for me, honestly, I'd rather beat North Carolina than St. John's.
Like St. John's, I don't – I mean, do you all consider that like a big rivalry?
It's a neutral court game.
I mean, I want to beat them, but I don't – I'm not going to be upset if we lose to St. John's.
North Carolina is here at 9.30 at night on a Tuesday.
I want to win that game, you know.
Yeah, the St. John's game is just because the guy sitting on the bench over there.
that's it and the st john's logo doesn't mean anything to any of us it's just patino sitting
over there who's next brian brian go ahead brian good morning everybody good morning listen i uh i know
that 37 million dollars is a lot of money but i was thinking about this with calipari years ago
and now i'm thinking about it with mark yes what if he stays just for the money but this is a motivated
and creative fan base and if they decide they don't like mark stoop's it's not just booing
him when his name is called.
They bought billboards to get people to get play.
Yeah, but see, I don't want to do that.
I mean, I don't say I want to do it.
I'm just saying it's going to happen.
So let me go back to Cal for a second.
I appreciate the call.
When Cal, when it looked like he was going to come back,
the thought of that year when it looked like he was going to come back was miserable to me
because I was like, I don't want to have a situation where our fans and the coach
have animosity towards each other.
Like, there's nothing good that comes out of that.
So if Stoops were to come back and people were just like making it miserable over the course of the year,
I mean, there's nothing good that comes out of that, right?
You know, we've used the word a lot.
When Cal Perry's end of his run was if we were a fractured fan base,
we're getting to that point here in football.
We're a fractured fan base.
We're willing to separate from the program.
I oddly don't think we're fractured.
Think everybody's all on board getting out?
I think everybody wants to change.
Yeah.
No, I'm serious.
With Cal, there was still a loud minority of people that,
They wanted him to stay, yeah.
Right.
They were very loud.
I don't think that exists now, Mario.
Do you?
No, I think stoops everybody.
I haven't met somebody that really wants him to stay.
Do you do any of you?
I've seen one.
I mean, I guess at that show the other day, we had two people say they wanted him to stay out of like 150 at Shady Ray's.
I wish it would work.
I would love for him to be our coach, but it's just not.
Okay, so let's talk about, let me give you a scenario.
See if this would change anybody's mind.
He wins one of Texas and Tennessee.
All right, wins one of them.
Big, both are at home.
Wins one of Vandy Auburn.
Okay?
Yeah.
Beats Louisville.
It's a fan base back.
Six wins goes to a ball.
Okay, where so many beats Tennessee Tech.
So many beats Tennessee Tech.
Six wins goes to a ball.
Is the fan base back?
Are they like?
I am.
I mean, I am too.
I'm back.
If he's able to pull that off somehow.
Shannon, are they back?
Oh, absolutely.
It just goes to show you one or two games here or there can determine your entire thoughts on a coach and whether he should stay or not.
I think there's still be a big chunk of the fan base that wouldn't be back, but there'd be enough of them back that you, if you're Mitch Barnhart, you definitely would bring him back.
Yeah, and you got a couple big wins.
You beat Louisville and you beat Tennessee or Texas.
Everybody was saying four wins this year.
If you get the six, you have exceeded expectations.
Okay, let's say not Tennessee or Texas.
Let's say you lose to Tennessee and Texas.
So you're now two and five.
But then you beat Florida.
Yeah.
And then you beat Vandy or Auburn, and then you beat Louisville.
That's still six?
I'm still, I'm back.
I mean, that's just me.
I don't know how a lot of the fan base would be,
but I would be excited about it would turn it around.
You think Florida, Vandy, Louisville keeps your job.
Just getting six wins.
Okay, what if it's just Vandy and Louisville?
You got five wins?
Five wins.
Well, like you said, that's the worst-case scenario.
That is the worst case scenario
And something that could easily happen
You beat Vandy and Lulwe.
Remember Vandy and Lulver the last two games the year
So you go into those games two and eight
Or excuse me, you go into those games three and seven
But then you beat Vandy and Louisville in the last few games
That sounds like momentum to me
You win two straight?
That's a winning streak. You can't fire a coach on a winning streak
It's Clomenum, yeah
That would be
that would be the worst scenario.
Go in 3 and 7
and then go beat Vandy on the road and go beat Louisville.
That would be the worst scenario.
And it's not crazy.
So what happens if that plays out that way?
He stays for another year?
That's what happens.
No, I mean, because I don't think Mitch Barnhart would fire him in that scenario.
Do you?
I don't think he would, but what would our fan base do?
Because we'd be on a three-game winning streak.
Tennessee Tech, Virginia, and Lulver.
And maybe Cutter Bowley has awesome games those last games.
So are your future much good for next year?
That would be the scenario that would be the worst.
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Hey, I want to tell everybody something that you might be interested in.
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Oh, nice.
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530 at UK, they have like 300 seats in the auditorium, so make sure to get there early.
But it's the Wendell Ford Lecture Series at the Singletary Center for the Arts.
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Would there be a streaming availability?
I don't think it's streaming that I know of.
If it is, I'll send the link out, but I don't think so.
So you've got your list of questions ready to go?
I'm going to work on it this weekend.
I was in a meeting with everybody.
I kind of know what everybody does.
But it looks like a good group, and I think it'll be very interesting.
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Who's next, Shannon?
Dalton.
Dalton.
Go ahead, Dalton.
Matt, you're such a proficient linguist.
You said Ryan operates in those circles.
I knew exactly what you meant.
Like blowing leaves or parking cars.
No, that's not what I mean.
Ryan's hanging out in all their clubs.
I can't even get into those clubs, right?
Their secret.
Yeah.
I've got an interesting thing on the buyouts.
I'm listening to you this morning.
So, I mean, it is ridiculous that they have all these huge price eggs to not work.
Yes.
But when you're getting that coach and you get that contract, you put that in there in fear of he gets good and somebody with big stuff.
That's exactly right.
That's why you do it.
But on the opposite, when they're not doing good, well, nobody's going to give you that money, so you've got to get rid of it.
Correct.
I see with the NIL dollars and more the rev share, right, isn't Barnhart allocating 12, 13, 14 million dollars a year?
Yes.
If you just stop giving Mark Stoops that rev share, Ronnie.
Yeah, but again, somebody suggested that yesterday,
but why do you want to do that?
I mean, why do you want to make it to where, I mean, let's say you make the decision
that you have to bring, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
Let's say you have to make the decision to bring Mark Stoops back.
Why in the world would you want to make it to where he doesn't have a team?
What good does that do?
what you tell you tell him that some of those dollars that are going to the football program
or leaving and maybe he can negotiate that out of his buyout yeah but why would you do that you're just
cutting off your you're just cutting off your nose to spite your face what is the point of if you
have to bring him back putting a horrible team around him like what who does that help
well and if he wants to still coach how does that help him it shows that he's willing to go to
well i can tell you that here's the answer it helps him because he's still good well i can tell you that
Here's the answer.
It helps him because he's still getting his money.
Right?
So, I mean, I appreciate the call.
Let's use that scenario where you say, okay, if you're coming back,
we're taking the money we would have had to pay you out of the rev share.
Well, what are you doing then?
Well, you're guaranteeing our football team will stink.
It'll be trash.
And guess what Mark Stoops gets?
A lot of money.
The same money.
So Mark Stoops gets something.
What do we get out of that?
Nothing.
Nothing.
We don't get a bad football team.
We don't get players.
We don't get a coach to replace Mark.
We don't get.
Coach wants to come replace Mark Stubber for that.
And what fans want to go to the games?
So you may have made a principle that makes you feel good.
Yeah, big boy, if you come back, you're not going to have money for players.
But all you've done is hurt yourself.
Yep.
He's still getting his money in that scenario.
So that to me is the worst idea.
If you bring him back, you have to try to have a good team.
Why would you not?
Like we said, SEC football is the biggest moneymaker on every campus.
This supports the whole athletic budget.
You have to be successful.
And that's also true.
Coaches would be like, well, so that's how you treat your coaches?
Yeah.
Is that you –
No coaches going to come and replace him?
You give them no players when things don't go well?
No players, no money?
Yeah, I don't think that works.
Who's next?
Rob.
Rob.
Rob, go ahead, Rob.
Hey, guys.
I hope you having a good morning.
I got a quick basketball question and a quick football question, if you don't mind.
Yes.
So given that Tyron Stokes' birthday is Sunday,
do you think that it's possible that he could commit Saturday?
at Big Blue Madness, which would be great because I'll be there.
So Tyrant Stokes, number one player in the country, there's been a lot of people who believe he might commit tomorrow.
I don't know what it is about tomorrow.
His birthday is Sunday.
Big Blue Madness is Saturday.
There are people in his camp who he's not taking any more visits.
So, I mean, I think if you were to place money on it, you would say this weekend is the most likely time it would happen.
It would be the biggest commitment for Kentucky and probably.
a decade if he were to do it.
So, I mean, it's a big deal.
I don't think it'll have anything to do with Big Blue Madness.
I think it would probably have to do with his personal life and when he does it.
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
Okay.
Football question is, if somehow an undefeated Tennessee Tech team comes into Croker Field
and beats Mark Stoops, is that the straw that suits back?
I mean, if you lost Tennessee Tech, I appreciate the call.
If you lost Tennessee Tech, you probably fire him right after the game.
right that would be a scenario that'd be the only scenario where I could see that you would let him go midseason is if you lost
what if you had just beaten Texas and Tennessee but lose to Tennessee Tech you don't fire him then
actually that would be the worst scenario beat Texas and Tennessee but then lose to Tennessee Tech
Vandy and Louisville back to back to end the season and the finish five at seven I could almost see something
crazy like that happened
Maybe not beat both of them, but maybe beat Tennessee but lose to Tennessee Tech.
That would be the worst because you would be five and seven but have lost three.
All you had to do is beat Tennessee Tech to go to a bowl and then you lost.
And apparently Tennessee Tech is good.
They're scoring like 60 points a game.
They're like really good.
Yeah, Tennessee Tech is undefeated.
We're going to beat them, though.
Come on.
You don't really think we're going to lose to them.
Bill Jigs it.
I mean, they're playing like Charleston Southern.
Western Illinois, Tennessee State, Davidson, Chadan-Nugue.
We're beating them. I don't want to hear these bad thoughts. Who's next?
Let's go to Hunter. Hunter, you got 30 seconds. Go ahead.
First off, it's great to hear from you guys, especially great to hear from Mario.
Oh, thank you, man.
You know, chiming in. So the quick question that I have, I mean, everyone's talking about the coach and new coach,
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And on my podcast, The Cliverts Show,
I'm bringing you conversations about all kinds of stuff.
Like being an internet famous referee.
We're in the middle of a game.
This linebacker, this linebacker walks up to me, he goes,
Hey, ref, my mom wants you to wave at her.
What?
Come on out.
Quarterback on office blue 42.
Hey, rec, my mama want you to wave at her.
What?
Hey, Miss Parker.
Listen to the Cliverts show on the Iheart radio app,
Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
Why are we all so obsessed with romance?
On the Radio 831 podcast, join us,
Sanjana Basker and Tyler McCall,
as we unpack all the trending tropes,
fuzzy adaptations, book talk drama,
and celebrity love stories with hot takes and sharp guests.
Each episode digs into what these stories reveal
about desire, fantasy, identity, and how we love now.
Listen to the Radio 831 podcast on the IHeart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
