KSR - 2025-10-13- KSR - Hour 1

Episode Date: October 13, 2025

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What are you laughing at? I'm raring to go. I'm raring to go. Drew and I were here to 1 a.m. We're still raring to go. Ready to rock. You can give us a shout on the Clark's Puppet Shop phone line. I'm going to be picking the callers.

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How was that? Had a great time. I was a groomsman for my brother-in-law. Congrats to Michael and Becca. But, you know, a little winded after we got back late last night. Literally went from the airport to right here to do cover zero with you all. You came in hot, ready to rock. So yeah, congrats to Michael on his wedding.

I think you said that what was the theme of the wedding? There wasn't really a theme, but I think you might be talking about how the Broncos played at 7 a.m. And everybody wanted to get up early in the morning. Yeah, I wouldn't be in a part of that. It was just a nice. There wasn't really a theme, but just a nice beautiful wedding. Black tucks, bow tie. Oh, you had to wear tucks. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Busy day as a groomsman, though, but I had a fun time. I have to put on pants today. So I understand what you're going through. Yeah. What do you got to do? It's a big day when you got to wear pants. Well, I mean, like, real pants with like buttons in a belt because I'm doing the Ford Center.

Oh, that's right. That's right. Yeah. I'm not, I'm moderating. Yes. So you get a haircut? No. I thought you might want to look sharp, get a haircut. Look, you're the only person that before a big day cuts his hair down to nothing. Yeah. No, I'm just going to, it's a normal thing.

Like, I'm not the star of the show. There are other people there. I just have to introduce them and then get them to talk to each other about it. And I had to do some research last night, have to do some more today. On pants or the event? No, just the state of it. I want, because I'm supposed to give 10 minutes. a eight, excuse me, seven to eight minutes summary to start of the transition from amateurism to NIL.

It's kind of hard. Uh-huh. Like, how'd you get into this one? Uh, they used to ask me, because I think the combination of law and me doing sports and then moderating, I can see why they, why they pick, but like, that's a tough thing to do. Go five years ago we were paying no nobody. Now we can just pay whatever we want. How did that happen?

Is this something that we could stream online and watch you? I don't think it's streamed. I've had a lot of people ask me, you can go see it. I know it's at the Singletary Center at UK. It's at 530. It's open the public. I think, I don't know how many people are going to be there. I think that they said the room holds 350.

Tell Dr. It is on your panel. It is a woman from the NCAA commission, a dude who represents a bunch of athletes. And your guy Mark Story of the Harold Lee. There you go. Nice. Love Mark Story. Big stars.

So big night over at the over on campus. Yeah, listen, watch out. It's going to be, when you see the crowd, that's what's going to be going on. Well, a lot of stuff to get to. I think the two big stories, big blue madness Saturday, and then I think the firing of James Franklin yesterday has led to conversations about here. I think those are probably the two big things. So let's start with something positive. I don't want to be like Mario and always negative.

Let's start with Big Blue Madness. All right. I'm going to go on record and say this is, in my opinion, one of the best Big Blue Madnesses in many years. I mean, I think you have to go back. Last year was exciting because it was Pope's first one, Rick Petino. But if I asked you to remember something that happened besides Rick Patino, can you remember it?

No. Mark Stoops coming out and flexing. Oh, yeah, on the football field. On the football field, that's right. And then it all going south at that moment. Yeah, it doesn't, because they just be. an old miss. Just beat old miss.

Yeah. But I think this one gives us a bunch of moments that people will remember. Yeah. Number one, they had like two, I think they had three things they wanted to do. Okay. They got one of them done. But to me, it was the one that was most important. I think they wanted to do something with a horse.

Yeah, you kind of, that was the one. That was the one. I knew that they were trying to do wall and the horse. The third one, I found out later I'm not going to say because we'll leave that for another time. But I knew they were trying to do wall on the horse. And they still weren't sure Wall was going to get here. And then they weren't sure about the horse. The horse ended up not working out.

Wall, I think they didn't know for sure was getting here. Am I right until early in the afternoon? Yeah, that's why you and I kind of hinted at it at the show on Friday. But there was no guarantee even on Friday that he was going to make it to madness on Saturday. What if instead of John Wall coming up on that riser, it was just a horse? horse. And just a random horse. Just a horse.

Just a horse. Ladies and gentlemen. And then the horse comes up and then just looks at everybody and just takes a big dump right there on the thing. What was the, I never heard, why were they thinking, weren't not sure Wall was going to be able to get there?

I think it was just travel logistics. I think it's what it was trying to make sure he got here in time. Well, he gets here. And that's a great moment, right? I mean, isn't that a great moment? Just to, even though I knew. it was coming. The moment ice cream paint job plays, you can just hear the crowd get excited and even though he only did this twice. He didn't do it very long. Well, I mean, he's probably

like, you know, now he's in his mid-30s. You still want me to do this? I still thought it was great. Yeah, I wasn't able to watch live, but I just saw a picture of John Wall with his arm up on top of the set on that platform. And it kind of, I'll say, gave me chili bumps. Right. It did me too. kind of got my feeling, just a still image of it. You're recreating the best thing that's happened at Big Blue Madness. And John Wall is a guy who can still connect the ages. Yeah, right. Like old fans like him, younger fans, and then even people who weren't who were kids

or weren't even paying attention when he played. They still know that that happened. I just thought that couldn't have been better. I loved it. They recreate the whole thing with him coming up on the riser doing the John Wall dance, place going crazy. You're right, though. But even for like old guys like me, young guys like Mario,

John Walls, like the centerpiece has kind of made Kentucky basketball relevant again. And we'll never, we'll always appreciate him for that. Do you think he's like, to some extent, is he the face of like Kentucky players? So like when I was a kid and you were to say Kentucky basketball players, you, you probably would have said like. Macy? it didn't work for me, although I think people a little older than me where I like that about Macy. I was probably Rex and to some extent Kenny Walker, I think was a little bit of that to me.

And then I think it was Mashburn for a long time, don't you? Yeah, for sure. I kind of think it's John Wall now. Even though Anthony Davis is better and all that, I still think it's kind of John Wall, isn't it? Oh, I definitely think it's John Wall. I mean, Anthony Davis got the title. But Davis, I mean, he's not that Walde would have been a big NBA star, but you know, Davis, some people associate him as a Lakers champion.

People think John Wall and the University of Kentucky. No one thinks the Wizards. And it's kind of helped that that six four from Kentucky has stuck with him forever. And like, I think even nationally when people think John Wall, they think of that, right? They think of that moment. And your point about young people don't even remember it or weren't alive for or watching, it's almost like you feel like, well, I have to have to have. of this kind of, it's like a part of being a Kentucky fan.

No, I think he is the player connection for Kentucky. So having him there was that. And then I thought, I thought that, the Trent Noah thing, having Jordan Smith singing. And having him pop up. I got chilly bumps during that moment, too.

I thought that was great. I was great. I mean, we're, I think there's a part of me that's like, we're never leaving Harlan alive. We're like, I think we got plenty of that now. Like, we're doing it at the football games.

I mean, The walk up for pitcher. It's a lot. It's a lot. Because that's an old song. Yeah. I don't know. We just all resurrected it all of a sudden.

But I thought in that circumstance, and especially having this kid sing it who's from Harlan and who was on, was he on the voice or American Idol or one of the two. I thought that was neat. Then, you know, having the fan fest. Yeah. I'm going to get later, have Mario talk about because he went to it.

I didn't go to it. But just having that event, I think was. just made it great. And it felt like a real day-long celebration of UK fandom, Drew, which is what you want. I wasn't there, but I saw enough of it to kind of understand how it went. It seemed that they just thought of so many things. I mean, you had our friend Billy from True Blue Customs at a station,

painting shoes. Obviously, you're meeting players. Tattoos. I heard Pope went over game film. You know, my guy, Aaron... Broke down game film for 30 straight minutes. My guy, Aaron Kaiser's in their painting. It's not like they just rolled out one thing and said, come look at this. It seemed like you could make a whole day out of it and if they considered just about everything they could think of.

I agree. You play one-on-one with Khalil Whitney and one side of the basketball court. That was cool. What? You could play one-on-one with Clay. He was just there challenging people? He was there and you could play a little one-on-one against him. And you should have come and challenge Khalil Whitney one-on-one.

He doesn't want the smoke. I'll cross him over and make him with a pool. That's kind of nice of the dragon to do. I thought it was great. Yeah. And then, you know, I thought I heard from a lot of people that went. that the in-game stuff, the in-arrina stuff was much better. They had two new people doing it.

I don't know. They're apparently NBA people. But they brought actual entertainers to entertain the crowd. And it worked. Here's a hint. Get people who do that to do it. And it worked. I watched the TV broadcast.

I thought the new guy, Noah. Noah. Ravi and Georgia Amor, that was a good comment. I think George Amor is great. Yeah. I think she's like... She's going to add a lot to the women's broadcast. Is she doing the women's broadcast?

I think she's doing some of them. She'll be good at it. Like I thought for somebody who's just graduated college, she was really comfortable at it. And you know, then the three-point contest was cool. And then Colin Chandler wins the dunk contest with John Wall throwing him the ball. I mean, I just think for an event that is hard to reinvent every year and has taken a lot of criticism over the years. I thought they did a really, really good job.

Yeah, it sure seems like it. What is the, I don't know when they aired it, but I've seen this new clip. It's like two and a half minutes long on Twitter. That is amazing. That's going to be their new intro video. I've watched that 100 times. So their new intro video with the players. I mean, this is the part the Pope regime gets.

I'm not seeing Cal didn't realize. Like, Cal was good to the players the past. But for him, history in terms of what he marketed started with John. Correct. Right. Yep. He respected the other guys, but he was like, okay, thank you guys. We're marketing wall on, right? Mark Pope's got a little bit of everything. Yes. You know, he, that video, it shows players watching moments from the past. Uh-huh. Right. One of them's looking at Oscar. One of them's looking at Wall. One of them's looking at Rex. You know, like, like, that's cool. I think That's very cool.

And that intro video, if you haven't seen it, they're going to play that at the games this year, apparently. It was great. It was fantastic. And you're right. If Cal was still here, that video would have just been his players. Yes. Pope gets it, understands what the history of this program means

and these old players mean to all of us. And I'm a complete and total sucker for putting old UK highlights to music. I mean, I'm just a sucker. You can put any song, you just start showing. Because what happens is with that, Especially the older I get, I see all those moments and I just think of where I was for all of them. And when you put music on it, dude, I am a grown man and that stuff brings me to tears every single time. It's ridiculous.

It's ridiculous that seen, you know, in 2014, when they all jump on Aaron Harrison and they're doing, that shouldn't have that effect on me. but it always does, Drew, and every time they do one, I love it. Me too. And on stuff like that with Kentucky basketball, the sappier the music to better. I agree. You know, my football highlights, I need some, I need some beats, probably some rap music. But the Kentucky basketball highlights just make me cry if you want to. And I still get excited like it's the first time I've seen them.

Yeah. You know, like, oh, is that ball going to go in when Patrick's Park? It's going to go in. It's crazy. Like other people across the country don't get it. You know, we watch a video like that, and it plays with our emotion so much. Like you said, it moves you to tears. You get chilling with other people who can't appreciate that.

I do think it's because you think, at least I do, of parts of your life that were these moments, right? I can remember exactly where I was when Scott Padgett hit that three against Duke. I can see myself in that situation. Yeah. Right? I can. You know, I can see myself when those two dudes, when cousins and Wall hugged each other in Nashville at the SEC tournament after that shot. I mean, I remember where I was sitting in that.

And you just go through all of them. I just thought they did an excellent job. And I do want to say, I'm very harsh sometimes on forgetting the common fan, et cetera. I know the thing Saturday had some hiccups with people not being able to get autographs. The mere fact that they did it, everyone should praise. Amen. In 2025, where there's just money, money, money, money, money in college sports to have a completely free event that rewards the people that get there the earliest. Two hours before they opened up.

Allows them to interact, see all this, brings all the disparate parts of our fan base. The UK basketball people deserve all the credit in the world for doing it. that. And that to me starts at the top with Mark Pope, who prioritizes things like this. Yeah, you can tell that he, he, it's important to him to, you know, bring that fan base back and let us know it's, it's our program. It's not just the coach's program. It's everybody's program. That's important to him. I thought that was a great day. 859-2802287. Text machine 772, 774. We will take a break and be right back. KSR. Last night, a blown call changed the game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened.

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Welcome back, Techies Sports Radio. You also had a couple other things. You had the Jasper Johnson doing the 6-7. Didn't know till this weekend, he was part of making that a trend. How did I not know that. I literally did the trend. How did I not know one of our players was part of getting that going? That him and what was it, Tay Kenney? You're the show's TikToker. You're supposed to have all the TikTok knowledge. First of all, I said 6-7, didn't even know it was a thing. And then people were like, oh, you know the trends. And I was like, what? I still don't know what it means. I think it means nothing. But they did that in the intro. I didn't even know. I did not Notedle this weekend that we had a player that was like part of that.

A new Tate Kenney claims it. The New York Times did a story about it. I knew about the Tate Kenney connection. I guess I could have associated that Jasper was probably around the room at that time because it was an OTE, but I didn't know Jasper had a big part. Had no idea. One person writes on the text machine, Matt, I know I'm old and probably grumpy, but John Wall doesn't do anything for me. Well, you are old and grumpy. How can you be a Kentucky fan and say that John Wall doesn't do anything for you? You're just being a contrarian. If John Wall doesn't do anything for you, then

you don't, I'm not going to say you don't love this, but you're just being a grump. Because I will contend until the day I die. There's never been a more fun year of college basketball at Kentucky. I know we didn't win. But that was the greatest rock star year ever. Yep. Ever. The 92 team, there's a special sentimentality to that year.

Right. Yes. 2015, there was a greatness component. 2012, we obviously won the title. 96 we were dominant. But if you're just talking fun, Ryan, they'll never be a year as fun as that was.

One fun. I mean, that was the book that Aaron Torres wrote. And Air was right. Yeah. It was fun. Would you agree most fun year ever? You're right.

It's a shame they didn't win the title. They deserved it. But it was so much fun. You know, the Magic Johnson showing up at a game, you know, all these people that wanted to come with LeBron, just to see this phenomenon that was going on.

Get on here really quick. Tell me, Mario, you were there. How was the fan fest? It was really cool, man. I really enjoyed it. I would say, like, for the most part, I'm glad it was free. Like, they was giving out tattoos. So who got tattoos?

Like, I'll probably say 60, over 60 people. It was a long line for it. That's crazy. Like UK logos, like the state outline with BBN in the middle of it. It was just all. 60 people got tattoos. More than 60. Somebody got an Ells-down tattoo on their arm.

Yeah, I saw somebody get an nails-down tattoo. But when they raised their arm up, it's going to be yells-up. Because it's Els-down on their arm. They didn't think that went through. Maybe they didn't. What about the Kenny Brooks autograph tattoo? Yeah, somebody got a Kenny Brooks autograph. I didn't see that.

What else? Were people happy there? Oh, they were doing static. They had five-on-five, like a basketball court where fans could play like Khalil Whitney, Darius Miller, like everybody was just having a good time. Yeah, I'll tell you another cool thing they did. They did this row where they let all. all the UK podcast do it.

Yeah, that was cool. I remember, like, I know what that would have been like when I got started. If UK in 2006 had let me come and do podcasting from the thing, that's very cool of them to do. And so a lot of people who don't

ever get to do that got to do that. Yeah, that was incredible. Overall, man, I was just, I was surprised how so many people like came, like, two hours before there's a whole line, like, wrapped around a rock. There was a line. There was a line all the way down to the park to Gatton Park.

I'm serious. It wrapped all the way down around into the park, Drew. Yeah, clearly it was a hit on the podcast thing. That was good for young and up-accomers. Also, the local media here lately just felt like we don't get much. Like, we've seen all the national people get to come in and see practice. Sometimes the local media is like, hey, we're over here too. I thought that was big and just giving them access

and letting them be a part of something where a lot of times, as we know, they kind of try to keep it all in house. So, all right, so let's talk to a second about the basketball. I know you can't draw too much into it, but as people saw it Pro Day and this, this is a team that can shoot. Trent Noah may be the best shooter I've seen in my lifetime. The dude is, the dude just doesn't miss. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

I'll be in a little, you know, a little hyperpily there, but. Hyperbole? High purpley. High purpley. What is high purpley? Is that like? It's a special kind of hyperbole to color. Hyperbole.

Yeah. Not purpley. Yes. Yeah. I got to remember that one. I've got to go on the coffee table book. Mike, go ahead, Mike. Hi, purple.

You hear me? Yes, go ahead. So I got two things. One, you know, I just moved to Miami. So I wanted to thank you all for providing a great show every day that I can always tune into at work. It's been a good steady thing. that kind of culturalized consistent.

So thank you all for that. You're welcome. And second of all, you know, with the George Franklin stuff, you know, I see some people on Twitter. I'm going to let you finish. But just note, 30 minutes, that people are ready to talk about stoops. I mean, you're just ready. Jerry's next. I know he's going to do the same thing.

I was trying to get some basketball joy in, but let's just get to James Frank. But go ahead. I mean, he deserved to be fired. it obviously. But like, you know, I see people on Twitter saying, should we look at them? But, you know, I think it's inevitable. Like, we know that we're going to be moving off

from Mark Soups very soon. I mean, maybe it's next year, maybe it's this year, but it will be coming. And I feel like our next candidate has to be somebody who's done more with less, rather than less with more. Like somebody like James Franklin

are one of these other coaches in a big program. I don't think anybody, and I appreciate it. I don't want James Franklin. I don't think that's, I don't think that's, I don't think Kentucky wants to do that. Plus, why would you want to get a guy who you're paying your buyout and you're paying Penn State's buyout? Because if we hire them, we're going to end up paying Penn State's bile. Right. So why would you want to do that? But I guess we have to talk about Stoops because I know these callers. I was trying to get a little basketball joy.

Now we'll get to the rest of it. We'll be right back. T.J. Smith, personal injury attorney. Call T.J. He'll make them pay. Now, more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Morgan. Here's Matt Jones. We're laughing about, you know, Keenland's going on, which just makes all of social media videos of people walking in and out of Keenland. Like, I just, I can't. Why is that a thing? I can't do it.

All these people make videos, like, they're the guest of honor everywhere they go. It just makes me romance. I mean, you want to go to Keenland, take pictures with you and your friends. That's fine. You're a woman. You look good. Put it up. You boys.

You got suits on. I'm good with all that. but when they create videos of them walking in and like gazing at the horses and like I'm just like just take yourself a little less seriously please just a little bit I don't want any video of me leaving King in fact if you have one of those deleted it probably won't be good all right let's just before you go the phones let's just do quickly uh football so James Franklin gets gets fired it's going to be a 50 million dollar buyout it's going to be the second highest buyout ever paid It was, James Franklin, just the record, Penn State lost back-to-back games as a 20-point-plus favorite. No team since 1993 has ever done that in a year. He did it in back-to-back weeks. So he gets five. $50 million by it.

The conversation here immediately goes to stoops, obviously. Couple differences I think are important. Number one, Penn State is not due immediately. to do over the course of his contract. So really they owe $10 million a year. That's a big difference. Big difference. Big difference.

Mitch Barnhart, no matter what happens with this whole thing, having two contracts with top coaches where we had to pay the buyout within a month was a massive disaster. And he deserves a lot of criticism for that. And the next time I interview him, I'm going to ask him about it. I don't know how you do that. It's a huge mistake. I don't know if any other school in the country even has that.

I'm going to ask you, is that ever been happening before? I'm not, I'm sure there are other ones. I don't know of any. All these people that have been fired, Jimbo Fish and all those, they haven't had it. Correct. We're the only one that's had it amongst these guys. That now makes five major football programs that have already fired their coach. And more coming.

Virginia Tech, UCLA, Arkansas, Oklahoma State, and now Penn State. All programs, by the way, that have had more success than we've had. Yeah. There's more coming. Yeah, there's more coming. I mean, Florida, pretty decent chance. Boston College, Maryland. I mean, there's more coming.

Who knows? Auburn, maybe. Yeah. So this is going to be a hard time to go find a coach if we have to go find a coach. Because those other jobs are a better job than the Kentucky job. Yes. And there's only so many people out there who are going to want to be hired. Then on the same weekend, Kurt Signetti takes Indiana and they beat Oregon on the road.

which of course leads people to go, well, if Indiana can do it, why can't we? So not a good weekend if you're Mitch Barnhart or Mark Stoops. Would you agree with that? No. And five days ago, maybe three days ago, probably thought quite a little weekend, a little bit of buy, Big Blue Madness is going to have everyone's attention. We won't even be mentioned. Then we'll focus on Texas next week.

But the James Franklin thing, almost like it just got people fired up again, even though UK, nothing has changed on UK side. and over a week, it just got people But our situation is different than them. I mean, we don't have the money they have. Now, there was a report that Adidas is paying the buyout that. Adidas says that is false. They're not paying the buyout.

I tend to believe them. Why would Adidas? I thought that too when I saw the tweet. They would want them to be good, but they're not going to pay a 45. I mean, they just signed like a $500 million deal. They're not going to pay a $50 million buyout. But ours being due up front, Ryan, is why it's different. That's why I ask you this has ever happened before.

I don't know of any time it's ever happened. I'm not saying it hasn't, but I don't know of any time. And what was the purpose for Barnhart to think that was a good idea at the time? You didn't think that Stoops was never going to leave or not leave? Stoops has a great agent. And Barnhart, some would consider this a compliment, some would not. I think he intentionally gives pro coach contracts. Look at all of our coaches.

They all have contracts that are very friendly. even the ones that have been very successful. All have very positive. I mean, Mark Pope, I'm glad we did this, but we paid him probably more than we needed to. I'm okay with it. Yeah. But we paid him, what, $5.5 million? I mean, he was making what?

Two? You know, I mean, you just, like, that's what we do. And you know Pope would have crawled on glass to get here. He was probably... I mean, Mingianz played very, very well. Kenny Brooks has paid very, very well. Craig Skinner is paid very, very well. well. And when it's looked like it's not working, he's very patient to let them ride out of him.

And that's worked for people like Mingio. It's worked for Mingio. Perfect examples. But then he probably gave, what's her name, our last women's coach. He probably gave Kair Aalzi one more year than you would have otherwise. So, you know. So with that said, do you think he's going to give Stoops more time? Well, this is a different situation. I mean, we got to see what the next six weeks. But how can you give him more time if they're three and nine? Seriously. I don't know how you bring you back if they're three and you can't. What are you going to argue? What's the argument that it's going to work? Coming off, well, a four-win season last year and you come back with a three-win season. Yeah,

you can. It's not a one-off three and nine. This isn't exactly. That was last year. Yeah. The one off year was last year. Not this one. So, yeah. Michael, go ahead, Michael. Not so much doom and gloom, but a question I've been pondering and pondering with football is, what's the shelf life of Cutter? How long does Cutter, you know, kind of sit back and take this? I say this with love. And I like Cutter and I think he can be good here. It doesn't matter.

You do not make your choice based on Cutter Bowling. I hope he ends up good here. I think he still can. If we have a new coach come in and they like Cutter, I'd love to see Cutter stay. But Cutter, to me, as much as I like him, is irrelevant to whatever choice you make at the end of the year. This is not Tim Couch, where you've got a dude who's going to be the number one overall pick in the draft.

And you consider what he wants before you go. Cutter is along for whatever ride we go on. And in the portal era, you don't have to have Cutter because you can go get someone. True. All right. Well, thank you for helping me. I appreciate. Do you agree with that?

Yeah, I want it to work with Cutter. And I hope whenever this happens, that he's a part of what's next. But also, if you make the right coaching hire, a guy that's good and got a little swag to him, He's probably going to want his own guy, even if he likes cutter. That's just the nature of the business. They usually bring in their own people. Justin Rowland made a good point online that I want to talk about, but let's take one more call on than I want because I want to expand on something he said.

David, go ahead, David. How you doing, Matt? What's going on, David? Good. I love that big blue madness the other. I brought back memories when John Walt did the dance. And it was fun to see Tubby there, too. Yes.

How did I forget that? Yes. Having Tubby there was also excellent. You're exactly right. Yeah, well, last week you were talking about anime and Death Note and One Piece. And I'm going to suggest this. You don't have to watch the anime on Netflix, but there is a live action one piece show that is shorter. And it has one season and then the second season on the way.

I'm going to stick with Death Note. I've watched one episode, liked it. I'm going to watch two or three this week. I'm going to stick with that. One piece I saw somebody was on TV saying it was like, who was it? What's the name of the dude with all the Vaseline on his face that's trying to take over the world? What do those words mean? Good grief.

There's a guy that's always on TV and he's greasy. And he's like an AI guy. He's really involved in politics. Peter Thiel. He was the guy that said we don't need humans anymore. Yeah, okay. Peter, I didn't know the Vaseline part. Oh, he's very Vaseline.

Yeah, I didn't know that part. Look at his face. He's very greasy all the time. Anyway, Vaseline guy. He said that one piece was a metaphor for like the Antichrist and all this stuff. And I was like, I don't want to watch. That's too much. No, it's not.

It's not. Yeah, I just want to watch Death Note. I just want to watch Death Note, David. And then we'll go from there, okay? Okay, but it's not a metaphor for the Antichrist and all that. Just don't listen, okay. Oh, okay, I appreciate it. No, he was saying like the hero in one, it doesn't matter.

He's got Vaseline over his face. That guy, let me just say, you want a guy to be worried about. Like, rather than us fighting, you know my feelings about Trump, y'all may hate whoever. Put all those people to the side. They're all going to go away. The dude to get scared about is Vaseline face. Because he's all into the AI and he's the dude who said, I don't know if we need humans anymore.

He's got that palan tier. Yes. He's got palantir. You want a dude to be scared of for the future. That Vaseline dude is the guy. He does kind of look like he has Vaseline on his face. Am I wrong? No, you're not.

He's scary. He said, Shannon, he was like, I don't know if we need humans. I think we could have, like, machines and be fine. I've never heard of this guy before. Well, he's the dude who brought J.D. Vance into our life. No. No, I'm serious. He's the one that got Trump to pick Jady Van.

Read about him. He's a scary dude. Like Elon and all those guys, I have problems with it. But that dude, that's the dude to worry about. He's one of the big billionaires that are eventually going to take over the world. Look, this world is going to be run by like five people. Musk, Zuckerberg, Peter Thiel, Sam Altman. And like, if you read those, they're all scary, weird.

But he might be the worst. Pasolingo. I mean, he does look a little shiny. A little. Yeah, he does. Don't watch interviews with it. Is he just sweating, do you think? I don't know.

I think he just lathers up before he goes on television. You know, skincare is important. I don't know. We'll take a break. I don't know. I did not mean to get off on that. See, David does that. We'll take a break.

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So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Dude, he's got so much Vaseline, right? Shannon, look at all the pictures. Oh, he's very shiny. Go watch his interview. He does an interview with, like, I think his name's like Russ Daufat or whatever. it. But anyway, you go watch the interview and tell me you're not scared of that, dude. When the guy's like, you, you really believe we should have humans here. And he's like,

maybe. You're like, what? You're on our team, man. Yeah. No, he's Team Vaseline. Is he a human? When you watch, it's not clear. I know people are also right and tell me to watch one piece. It's also 1,700 episodes. Like, I've got to have some standards. I got things to do. Yeah, hard pass on that. 1,700. There are seasons that are like 131 episodes. But then you say your kids love it, right?

Josiah's best buddy Daryon would watch him nonstop on our road trips. And I'm like, he was like, I'm in 800, episode 800. I'm going to make it to 1,000. Shadyrays.com. If you want sunglasses, premium polarized sunglasses that keep the sun down, but keep your eyes safe, it's shady rays. I love the way they give you the nice color. The colors pop out.

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but you've probably heard me over the years do it and say there are these moments where college football makes changes and the programs that develop move forward and the ones that don't go away. We've talked about it with Nebraska, Notre Dame, that when college football, all of it became on television, they got left behind. We're in one of those moments right now.

We're in one of those moments where the whole fundamental part of what college football is, is changing because of the portal and because of NIL and now RevShare. And there's going to be like this two to three year period of whoever figures it out can create themselves into a powerhouse. Indiana is doing it right before eyes. Signetti figured out the portal and he figured out all this and now he's got a chance to make Indiana really, really good.

We're third in the country this week. But he's got a chance. I mean, what's more impressive to me than them being third in the country is that they were really good last year and now they're good again. He didn't just do it in one year. Because a lot of people said last year he just brought his James Madison players. Missouri did it that one year.

And then the next year they were seven and five. He's done it now twice. And that's what makes it impressive to me. This is not the time we can have a coach that's not like this is the worst time you can have a coach, falter. And more importantly,

we have to have a coach that's ready for the new air. We don't seem to be ready at all. Just go look at the top teams in the country. Who's coaching them? Ryan Day, young. Kaelin DeBoer, young. Kurt Signetti, young. Dan Lanning.

Dan Lane. He's on fire. Even though they lost. Young. Miami's coach. Young. These people, and they're all, what did I say the other day?

How many of these coaches that did it the old way are winning the new way? Who's failing? James Franklin. Davvo Sweening. Kirby Smart's winning, but it's slipping a little bit from what he was doing. Go look at the top seven. These are all coaches who are new and adapting to this.

We have to have one of those. Don't we? Hearing you say it just makes us feel like we are so far behind and everything you just said. Yes, we are. We're still, we are industrial. We are basically industrial barons, except I don't even know if Mark Stubbs was a baron. But we basically own a Polaroid factory as the iPhone's coming out.

Yeah, when you put it that way. No, we own a successful Polaroid factory. But it's a Polaroid factory. But it's a Polaroid factory. And people aren't as into Polaroids anymore. Although they're making a little bit of a comeback. We're, but I'm serious. That's not a joke.

We are playing a game that is no longer the game. And everyone else is doing AI and we're selling typewriters. We got to get one of those. Or Mark's going to have to transform who he is. Is that a possibility? I mean, how many people do you know that are that age that just completely change and transform and it works? There aren't many. There aren't many.

I'm not saying there's nobody, but there's not many. So Justin's point, which was, this is the time that you have to pick the person for the future. You can't go backwards. Who's the biggest failure in college football this year? The greatest coach of the Industrial Revolution, Bill Belichick, right? He plays it the old way. But that's not how we're doing it anymore. So I think that's, it's just fact.

Let's go to Kenny. Go ahead, Kenny. Hey, Matt, I don't know. You're a big wrestling fan. I don't know if you got to see what happened this weekend. But they had the match between the Dudleys. And it was a retirement match. And they took their boots off in the middle of the ring.

Yeah, that's right. The Dudleys wrestled the Hardee's, which did you know we'd still be doing that champion in 2025? No, that is news. They wrestled each other in the mid-90s, and they wrestled each other last night. And the Dudley's lost, and then they took their boots up. off and handed them to the Hardy St. Which is the symbol for I'm retired.

Did Devon get the tables one last time? Devon get the tables. They did have the tables out. They did have the tables out. But do you like that as a retirement thing, Shannon, you take your boots off and you hand them to the other guy? I mean, if you're actually going to retire and not come back three or four more times like the Undertaker

has. Yeah. You know, but maybe Mark will do that at the Louisville game. I think so. Just take his shoes off. He'll take his boots off. Yeah. And hand them to Vince after we beat him. There's Nike Freeze, UK logo. If you're the other guy, do you want the boots? Do you put them up in your house?

Because it's not like a jersey of another player. You frame it, put your man cave. Like, this is boots the guy was wrestling in. Yeah, if you've been in battle with somebody for 30 years? Like, when Petino and Cal finished, one of them takes off their loafers and hands it to the other one? Okay. All right. I'll see it.

I'd rather have their jacket maybe than their shoes, but, you know, to reach their own. I kind of like it. Jay Billis is he's still giving away his shoes after every... That's always the worst though. Jay Bill gives his way his stinky shoes and hands them to kids. Jim Nance with the tie. You can always see the kids like, why are you giving me this? I don't want your shoes.

But if you're Matt Hardy's wife, are you like, are we really putting Bubba Ray's boots in our home and on the mantle? Are you really keeping them? I don't know if you put them on the mantle. But, but yeah. Ryan, are you leaning now towards absent turning the season around? We have to make a change. I think you have to.

I think like we said last week, all the pressure has gone from Stoops winning. The pressure is now on Barnhart to make a change. If they win six, though, do you think differently? Yes, absolutely. I do too. Yep. Because I don't know that it will be better for our program long term if we win six. But I think if you make a ball and he turned it around, you have to let.

I think so. You have to keep going. But honestly, in my view, we're going to know Saturday night. You think so? If we get our, if we get handed it to us, we know where this is going. It's the most winnable game on the schedule outside of Tennessee. We'll be right back. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite.

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