KSR - 2025-10-14- KSR - Hour 1

Episode Date: October 14, 2025

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What's that? We're sitting here talking about basketball and football pregame shows. I'm in a room full of people. Ryan Drew, Billy. Ryan, who's been doing these shows for 15 years. Billy, who's produced them for years, Drew's been on for a few years as well. None of them could remember the times for the pregame shows that we've always done. It was just a year ago.

Everyone but me was going, we started our basketball pregame show three hours before, and I'm like, no, two and a half. And Billy was like, it's three. And Ryan's like, it's three. I didn't. And Drew's like, it's three. And it's, no, it's two and a. It's always been two and a half.

It's always been two and a half. So, but it's now that time. We're doing pregame for Purdue. basketball, Ryan, next weekend. We play the number one team in the country next Friday. That was the conversation. We got all these pregame shows for football, basketball, postgame shows, trying to get online.

And they all started different times. Y'all have different links. Yeah, we're getting into that time where, like, we'll be on. I want you to just get, just think about it. And I'm not complaining. I'm complaining on behalf of the audience. I want you to think about how much you could hear my voice if you wanted to next weekend. Okay.

Yeah. Just think about this. Friday morning, KSR, you know, our remote, then basketball pregame show 3 p.m. Basketball postgame show whenever the Purdue game is over. Saturday, Kentucky Tennessee football pregame show. Two hours. Kentucky Tennessee football post game show. Yeah.

Sunday morning. Matt Meyron on ESPN. Sunday night cover zero. That's a lot of radio. That's a lot of Matt. If you listen to me that whole time, then your wife has to hate you or your husband has to hate. That's too much me. It's too much me for me.

I'm in the same boat with the football podcast. We do a happy hour now. I'm like people, at some point, I don't want to just be talking at every moment of every day. But it's exciting that they're collided. That's four hours. That's four, three, six. I mean, that's a lot of hours. I do that every day.

See, I love this. No, no, you don't. Yes, I do. You always do that. You do three hours a day. But then you do your music. You're not doing the whole show. You're introing the song.

Yeah, but I'm talking. But you, I love you, Shannon. But you tape that in 20 minutes. But I'm talking, though, is my point. For 20 minutes. For 20 minutes. Whatever. It's fine.

Tough guy. You're doing it for 20 minutes. You're like, welcome back. This is Food Fighters. You know what's crazy. You said that, though. There will be people, though, that will listen to every second of all your shows you got.

I'm very grateful for them doing it. That's just a lot. A lot of Matt. A lot of Matt. By the end of that week, and then we come right back here Monday morning and do it again. Another full week. So I'm probably going to give the Tennessee football post game, let Billy do it. Yeah.

Because Billy likes doing it because Billy's angry at people during the post game show. And I think that would be a post game show after Tennessee where people will want to just be angry. So Billy might be the vibe, Drew for it, actually. Well, I had the South Carolina. line of game and you talk about talking the whole time. There were so many calls and people so angry. It's one of those just let them go. I think Tennessee might be the same way.

Billy might be a good person for the just let everybody, let everybody go. Yesterday, Ryan, I want to thank the listeners who did come out to hear the Wendell Ford lecture. How'd it go? About NIL, thought it went really well. It was good. We had a big crowd. You know, I put on a jacket.

Yeah. To shower. I'm the pants. You mentioned the pants. You mentioned the pants. It was fun. I have stressed pants. I mean, I can do the formal thing well.

I just don't do it very often anymore. I have all these suits from my TV days that I don't get to wear a lot. Was there a moment where it got a little tense when you're questioning and back and forth? Well, I'm going to be tense. We're not fighting each other. It was just about trying to teach people about NIL. It wasn't like, let's go to war. So not like a political debate.

You weren't any. There's nothing political about. NIL. It's just do you, it's just like college sports rules. Yeah, that's why I just asking was there was a situation where somebody asked a question. It was not heated, not heated at all. I did have a moment though that was a little worrisome. So I got there early. Uh, because, you know, campus. You can't park there. It's ridiculous. You try to drive on Euclid Avenue at 4.30 in the afternoon. Just forget it. I mean, just forget it. They had saved us spots in front of the singletary. So that helps. So it has. So it has.

had in big letters, VIP and our name. Wow. So I almost took a picture of it. VIP, Matt Jones. I was the first one there. So I parked. I went and they had a dressing room for us. Did they?

Really? Right? Shannon had a dressing room. Nice. Did you have a window? Did you get a rider? I did not get a rider. I bought Coke Zero out of the machine.

And then I sat and waited. Well, all the people that are on the panel get there and we're all sitting there in the room. And then this woman comes in and goes, Matt, can I speak with you for a second? I walk outside and I'm like, oh, where are they going to sit? And there's a cop there. And they go, this is officer, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, hi, officer. And he goes, he's going to take you after this is over.

And for a minute, I was like, take you where? What did I do? Yeah. Is this a prank? What happened? And he goes, no, no, he's going to escort you to your car when it's over. And I was like, oh, well, I guess who's escorting? And they're like, no, you.

And I was like, oh, and they go, we just thought it would be good. Well, that kind of got me paranoid. Yeah, for sure. Shannon, you know, like, was there a threat on me? No, I mean, I'm serious. I can walk to my own car. Yeah, I've been on that. I come on that campus all the time.

And so they had this guy, like, kind of walked me out. And then somebody mentioned as I was leaving, you know, they're doing this on campus now for anybody who is at all people could see as political post the Charlie Kirk thing. Wow. And that was really like a, I mean, it was very nice. The guy was nice. But like there was a car. And I have to admit, it kind of got me paranoid. Like, so then I'm starting to look around.

It's the weirdest thing. Somebody gives you something to make you feel more comfortable. and I was completely comfortable and then it almost switched it off. Because it's something you don't need. It's like, why do I need that? Well, certainly something I didn't think I'd need. But then when they tell you,

they presumably would know what I need more than I know. Does that make sense? Yeah. It's kind of sad to think that's the world we live in now or you've got to have an escort to walk to your car because you potentially a political person. So I guess my initial thing about you was there any argument? And I was like, no, that would be ridiculous.

They probably were like you. Is there's going to be something wrong? Ryan was on it. So, Ryan, you were actually on it. You could have been in the administration. Well, I'm glad they took the steps to protect you, but it just kind of sad. But when I walked out, there was no one there. It was me and Jen Smith that used to work at the Herald Leader.

And unless she was plotting something. We're good around Jim Smith. Was she there for the... Well, she's a professor there now. Josiah has her in class. Yeah. For people who don't know, Jen Smith, she was the football writer for UK for many, many years. She's now a professor.

sir at UK. So anyway, I enjoyed it. A lot of you all listeners came. Saw you in the crowd. Nice. And some of you came up and said hello, so appreciate that. In talking about over the course of the conversation, one of the things Matt, Mark's story said about NIO, I thought was interesting. So I throw a test to you all.

How many sports at UK has UK committed to giving NIO money RevShare to? So let's Let's just tell Let's talk about How many Because I don't think Mark said this during the thing And I don't think I'd heard it

So this was Mark From Mark's story Take a guess How many sports at UK Are getting RevShare NIL money Drew Trying to run through sports in my head

I'm out loud Well I mean You get the big two Then you got Women's Basketball Volleyball Okay. What would be next?

Baseball. Okay. Yeah. What's a sure fire thing? I was going to think even men's and women's soccer. Okay. Men's and women's swimming. Okay.

Men's and women's golf. So what's your total? I'm going to go 18. 18 sports at UK. What do you think? Yeah. 10. 10. Shannon, what do you think?

12. The answer is six. Six. They're giving it to men's basketball, men's football. women's basketball, baseball, volleyball, and softball. And that's it. Track. Not getting it.

Even though we have like a national... Producing gold medal. We produce the Olympics. Go soccer. Not getting it. Yeah, I thought for sure. Golf. Not getting.

Soccer or golf don't surprise me. Track surprises me. Should have gotten softball. Now, so we have six. Guess I mean Louisville has. Well, not to say that. Four. Yeah.

Five. Louisville's not giving it to softball. So Louisville's down to giving it to only five sports. Which means one of Louisville sports at least is getting money that is going to UK. Softball is going to another side. It's an interesting thought because on the one hand you go, well, that stinks for the other programs. But on the other hand, as Mark pointed out, every dollar you give to baseball or to softball or to volleyball or to whatever is dollars you're not giving to your football and basketball. team and that this is the constant balancing that schools have to do. But I think it was it was

kind of startling to me to hear that we're only doing six because I guess I would have thought, Ryan, they're going to do a lot more, but at six. And apparently at six, we are doing more than most other schools. Most other schools, by the ways, are doing football, basketball, women's basketball, baseball, and then they're picking one other one. They're picking one other one. Maybe it's For them, for like Oklahoma, it's softball, for another school, it might be this, but they're just picking another one. I really thought knowing Mitch Barnard's way he is with his other Olympic sports, he's trying to be fair. I thought he would kind of disperse it. Can't be fair in this world.

You can't be fair in this world. You just can't. If you're fair, you're losing. This is a competition. It's not fair. I mean, this is a socialist sport that has had to enter into capitalism. People don't like when I use that phrase, but it's the truth. College sports has been socialism for 80 years, and it's always funny to me that the

people who were the most athletes should be paid, people like me, are people who people think are on the left, we take the capitalist position, oddly, whereas the people who wanted athletes to be paid the least are often people on the right who are taking a socialist position, which is share it between the things, et cetera. And this college is, college sports are socialists that are now having to become capitalist. They just are. Yeah, and, you know, I wish, we've had some great tennis players. I wish they could get paid, but, These sports don't have attendance when you go to them and they're not bringing anything in.

Many of them aren't even on SEC Network Plus. So if people aren't going to the games, you hate it for those athletes, but the slice of the pie, it's just hard to share anything. Do you think that six goes down to five or four in a few years? Do you think there comes a point where Kentucky says, well, we're not even going to do... Mark's story made the point if you're a softball player

and you're choosing between Kentucky and Louisville, how do you choose Louisville now? Kentucky, by the very nature that they're giving money is saying they're taking softball more seriously than Louisville is. But to answer your question, I think it's highly possible that that number could get smaller as the years go on. I do too. I mean, you could have a world where it's two.

Football, basketball. I think they probably have to have one women's sport, but you could see a world where it was three, right? Yeah, three, maybe four where you have one school that's been good at something for a long time, but I agree with it not including those others, even though it stinks to say that out loud that those kids don't get it. It's just they're not bringing anything in. It doesn't that they don't get scholarship. They're just not getting like rev share money. They don't have the big cash in their pocket, but they're also not bringing much cash in.

So it was interesting. It is interesting. Because I wouldn't have said 18, but I probably would have been like Drew. I would have probably said 10. I thought for sure. And to hear that it's six and at Louisville, it's five. Wow. And they also said, by the way, Bellarmine did not opt into the rev share. Wow, really? And would you like to know why? Yeah. because part of the revs share is you have to cut your scholarships down. And Bellarmine is so focused on keeping male students enrolled that they want to keep their sports programs with big numbers so that they can keep male students enrolled.

So they'd rather keep the scholarship numbers big and give no money. Wow. So Bellarmine is the only school in Kentucky Division I school that is not doing revshare. I guess for any sport. There's probably some other smaller schools in other state, Mark's point is schools with like small Catholic or small liberal or not liberal arts schools are going to have to do that because such a huge portion of their student body is now

as athletes. Sure. And they don't want to see the scholarship numbers get reduced because then like Transi, I think 50% of students that go to trancy now play a sport. Georgetown's like that where I teach. Kentucky Wesleyan is definitely like that. That's why I think that's why Bellarmine, I guess, apparently opted out of it. 859-2-8027.

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U.K. has just announced, a Rupp Arena's announcing after the U.K. Purdue exhibition game Friday, there will be a post-game party right outside the arena. What? Cam Thompson, singer. Who's Cam Thompson? Do we know Cam Thompson? Do not. You know a Cam Thompson song, Shannon?

No. Well, Cam Thompson's going to be out rocking. It's free. So as you walk out Vine Street, so I guess that's walking out, what? Walking out where the fountains are? Yeah. Apparently, Cam Thompson will be out. They'll have concessions, and it is a UK basketball post-game party after the Purdue game.

Well, the Purdue game's at six, so it's early in on a Friday evening. Yeah, so the Purdue game is actually at six. It's not at seven, like people think. So it's at six, and then I guess starting as soon as the game's over, they will have downtown part of it. I guess they're going to have downtown closed? I don't know how to look, but I'm excited to have Cam Thompson in the background of the rapid reaction. Cam Thompson's going to be here, Shannon. That's right.

It's exciting. I can't wait to be there for that. Well, I mean, we don't know Cam Thompson. Maybe he's good. Maybe he is. Yeah. I mean, we don't know. What kind of music is?

What kind of music is? I'm going to say it's broke country. Yeah, I would say so. Right. Maybe people. So, anyway, that's some news. All right, let's talk about some chatter from yesterday. Last night, Virginia Tech's version of Kentucky Sports Radio.

So they're kind of number one website for sports. list said a hot name for Virginia Tech right now behind the scenes as the coach is Mark Stoops. Kentucky fans heard that news after it was put out by KSR and reacted with, I think, excitement is it fair to say. There's a little bit of Jubilee. I think the problem is people are going to get excited, which is going to then make Virginia Tech people not be interested. but this conversation

for what it's worth I don't think he's going to be the Virginia Tech coach but are we just going to keep having this is this a case where Kentucky fans are already like hey someone BR John Tyson in Arkansas that and just the fact that Stoops name was in this report made me think that his agent

has maybe thrown around that he'd be interested in something Oh so you think you think this is Stoops's agent throwing his name out there Well, I don't know why else he would be considered for it. Like, I think most people were surprised his name was on there. And the only thing I could think of that would kind of get it on the list is if behind the scenes somebody's talking. But I don't think Virginia Tech would be good. But, I mean, if you're someone who wants to see a change, it would be good that Stoops' agent is trying to promote him out there.

But I took it is that that might actually be happening behind the scenes on the Stoops end. So you actually took it as good news. Most people would say, yeah, that's good news. That Stoops might even, through his agent, might be looking around for a backup plan. You know, there are so many jobs open and going to come open. A name like Mark Stoops for a job of Virginia Tech, they probably would jump at the chance, I think, to be interested in Mark Stoops. Because who else they're going to get?

Well, I mean, you say who else are they going to get? You got a chance to get an SEC coach? You know, I have to push back on that. I think our fans sometimes overvalue this job. Like, what makes you think Virginia Tech's a better job in Kentucky? I don't. Okay, so why would Virginia Tech's a better job in Kentucky? want a coach that Kentucky fans want gone.

I think a guy who's had success in the SEC, even though he hadn't had success last couple of years. But do you think by Virginia Tech standards, that's a team that played for the national championship 25 years ago? A long time ago. Still, though, it's a football school. And they've had to struggle a couple years? And you think they'd want the coach that Kentucky fans don't want?

I'd say it's not. Would we want the coach Virginia Tech doesn't want? No. Well, you think they're a better program than us. I didn't say that. You think we're a better program than them. Yes. And Stoops had success here in the SEC.

Why do you think we're a better program than that? I think because we're in the SEC. We've had a couple 10-win seasons. Now, not on the history. I mean, like right now, last 10 years. Yeah. So I think there's a little truth to it. I mean, we're in the SEC.

That's a lot better than the ACC. Yeah. We can probably pay as much or more than their coach. But, Drew, I would not say we're a better program. Not a better program. I can agree with Ryan. I might be a better spot right now with SEC money. And if you're a coach, you want to get in the SEC,

we're not historically a better program, not even really close. Yeah, I mean, I saw someone list the 13 or 14 jobs that are likely to be open. And I saw a Kentucky fan say, well, we're the fifth best job of that group. I don't know what the standard for that is. I mean, if you just want to say the 16 jobs in the SEC

are the 16 best jobs, then that's fine. I don't think most coaches look at it like that. I mean, I think coaches partially look at it and go, can I win there? And by the can I win their circumstance, this is still a hard job, right? Because we have to play against those other teams. You can go to Virginia Tech.

And if you get that rolled or turned around, how many teams in the ACC are definitively better than you as a program? Clemson and Miami, Florida State. You could be next. And you would jump at the chance to get back to the SEC. Let's say you get Kentucky at its best. Let's say you get us peak rolling. it.

Gotcha. Where do we rank our program of the top 16? Even at our peak, we're not going to be higher than Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Texas, Texas A&M, Tennessee, Oklahoma. Those are 10 schools that there will be nothing we can do that our job is more attractive than theirs. Probably never. So then really you're like, okay, is our job more attracted than bandy?

Probably. is our drive more attracted to Mississippi State? Yeah, probably. But then like South Carolina, Old Miss, Arkansas, Missouri. We're kind of in that group, aren't we? Oh, definitely. And if I put myself in Virginia Tech's fan shoes right now,

that list that came out of the eight names on it, I like Mark Stoops as a person, I would not be excited compared to the other names that were on that list. So I doubt there's many Virginia Tech fans that saw that and thought, ooh, we should get Stoops of this bunch because it had James Franklin, Gulles, at South Florida, Sumrah, Mullen.

It had all these hot names. And Beamer. So I think if you're Virginia Tech. And Beamer, his dad was, I mean, Beamer's probably the one they want the most because his dad was a coach there. Eric, go ahead, Eric. Every time I kept up on the spot, and I pretty much was where I'm at. But yesterday, I called in, and I forgot my main point about Rupp.

Is there anything that you could see possible doing to make it easier on older folks? No. Because, I mean, I'm sitting there for Rupp. and it's just they're coming along and you just feel so can you expand it and make it a little flatter I mean you're how much that call I mean we're sitting here trying to figure out what we're going to do about the coach yeah I mean we're we're about to start paying players 21 million dollars a year the government is shut down where are we getting the money to make rep flatter I mean there's a very valid point I'm just, I did know. So no, I agree with you.

It is very hard for older folks to get around Ruppery. It really is. It's very steep. But I don't really think. I think of the things that are going to happen soon, major changes at Rupp are probably not anytime soon. We're going to take a break. 859-280-2287's KSR.

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So not my thing, but but people like this, right? Like if I turned on 981 to Bull, I could hear this. Yes. Right? Like this is, he's got like probably a t-shirt, a hat, jeans, right? Something about whiskey, truck. Yeah. I mean, there's a woman left him, but he's going to get him back.

Yeah. And ain't no more country than he is. Like that's, no, I mean, this, I'm not, I'm not even. mocking. Like, this is, this is what people like. So he's from Owensboro, apparently. So I'm rooting for it. Let's go Cam Thompson. Ryan's hometown. I'm not familiar with him, but I, as I said, when you first mentioned, I just like that they're doing it, whether it's someone I've heard of or not. They're just adding more and more for fans to experience. I totally agree. I pat him on the back for that. Totally agree. No matter who it is. 859-28027.

A couple open lines. Give us a shout of what you, what would you do if you were the football and or basketball coach? One person writes, Matt, I don't think Virginia Tech would want to, but there probably are schools that will. The question is, do we think he will want to go somewhere? I can't imagine he's going to want to do this again. But then again, like we say all this, you beat Texas Saturday. It's a completely different conversation.

Completely different. Completely different conversation, which is what's weird about sports in general. It's like you can have this whole strong opinion. If he won next week, then everybody would go, well, I mean, you know. James Franklin had Oregon. down just three weeks ago. Yeah, that's a great point. James rings up at half time. I think he'll be the number one team in the country, and two and a half weeks later, he's fired.

He's gone. You know, so things can change. That's what I'm saying. There's so many jobs open like this year, high-level jobs, they're going to get the high-level candidates. Does that elevate Stoops is a better candidate in some school's eyes? Who? I still, I don't understand what you're asking me. Who do you think is out there that's got a good job that wants Mark Stubbs? I'm saying guys like Penn State, Florida. They're going to get the high-level guys. Okay. He's saying someone's going to have to settle because there's just too many open jobs.

That I agree with. But I think the kind of coaches we want is going to be what schools like Virginia Tech want. They're going to want Will Stein. Yeah. Right. Or John Summerall. Like, don't you think that's who they're going to want? Or guys like that.

They're all going to want them. There will be some schools where there's Virginia Tech. hey, maybe Kentucky. It might be us. That make a hire that's a little disappointing just because there's not enough candidates out there. That, I completely agree with the Bears. One last night. Congratulations.

Thriller. It was a thriller. Normally we lose that game. We won it last night. Caleb Williams, the commanders fumbled it due to a Nor-Easter. What is that? A Nor-Easter? Channing, do you know what a Nor-Easter is?

They're having a Nor-Easter. It was like a ton of rain that came through? Is like a North Easter? Like I hear that with like rain and snow. I always hear that phrase. Yeah. But what makes it any different than like what we had here a week and a half ago? What is it nor'easter just that the northeasterers decided if it happens where they live?

It's something with their wind up there. I don't, that's the farthest I can go. What does it do? It spins and what? A storm or wind blowing from the northeast, especially in New England, is a noreaster. There you go. So it's just wind and they named it. Yeah.

See, that's what, that is what gets me about the Northeast. They just, I mean, so we could just call it like a Kentucky Easter. Yes, it's all the Easter. We have a bad storm. And then that's the name of a type of weather. And then people will be like, well, people in Kentucky get wind and oh, dude, it's tough to to live in Kentucky.

They get the bluegrassers. Yeah, that's what it is. So anyway, well, the Northeaster hit and then they fumbled it at the end. Well, it was very wet and rainy and they fumbled it. Did you have faith in the Philgold? in the middle of the Northeaster. No, because they zoomed in on the wind and the rain. And that guy, they just signed him that day.

Did you see that? No. The Bears just signed the guy that afternoon. The kicker? And he kicked. They interviewed the player at the end. They interviewed Caleb Williams. They said, what did you think about the kicker? And he said, I didn't know who he was.

Well, he's the one that the Niners let go because he couldn't make anything in the first few weeks. But Shannon, how would you like that if you're the kicker? They interview the guy. He goes, well, I didn't know who that guy was, but I'm glad he made. If you're the kicker, you're barely on the team until they need you to kick a field goal to win the game. Then they love you. But they ignore you the rest of the time. And it's got to be a hard job because they either love you or they want you to just go away.

You miss a kick, you're done. Yeah, you miss one kick and you're over. I mean, it's over. You don't even practice with the team or anything. You know, you're kind of off on your own. And you look not like them. Well, how about just a few weeks ago? The Falcons kicker kicks a game winner and on the field.

She's like, do you even know your teammates? He's like, no. And he's standing in the interview and he shakes his hand out. He's like, hi, I'm so-and-so. He met them in the post-game interview after kicking the game winner. The kicker for the Packers yesterday was a substitute teacher two weeks ago. Two weeks ago he was substitute teaching. Then he's kicking for the Packers and has a game winning kickers are so weird.

The Cowboys, Brand Aubrey, could be one of the best kickers ever. And he just got tired of soccer because he got old and couldn't run anymore. And he's like, well, I'll go try to play football. and he's automatic. I mean, think about Max moved across the world to play a sport he'd never watched. Yeah. Because they were like, well, you'd be good at this. And then he won the award for best kicker in the country.

This tells me in America, our youth are not practicing field goal kicking enough. Stop trying to be quarterback. If you want your kid to be an athlete, why would you not just teach him to be a kicker? Again, use Max Duffy. This would be the equivalent of like me going, somebody going, you know, you'd be good cricket. moving to Australia and then I win the national cricket player of the Year Award two years ago.

He did not even watch football. My favorite thing is he visited Memphis and Alabama and did know there was a difference between the programs. No, he visited Memphis and Alabama and he was like, well, Memphis is a bigger city, so it must be better. So he got there, obviously, but on his way over, he had no idea

there was a difference in Memphis and Alabama football. His story's about when he met with Nick Sabin, and Nick Saban was like, I don't know about these Australians. And, you know, then he ended up winning the award. And Saban went up to him and said, I was wrong. Oh, he did. I didn't know that part of the story.

Yeah, he said, I wish I. Because Max wanted to go to Alabama. Basically that guy brought, back then they'd bring these Australians over here. Yeah. And it was, I think, I think Drew's right. It was Memphis, Alabama, Kentucky. But Kentucky was like, third. He went to Memphis and Alabama.

And he was like, well, I guess I'll probably go to Memphis. It's a bigger city. Then he got there. and he's like, oh, Alabama's better. He tried out for Saban, and I think Saban was like, nah, Australians, and then later saving, and that's how we ended up with. Wow.

And then later Saban did apologize to him. Yeah, so Kyle, go ahead, Kyle. So last year on the basketball team, Robinson was the only guy that really knew Pope system. This year we got about four guys, I think, that are pretty familiar with what we're going to run. You got to imagine that's going to lead to some early season dominance, like the like of which we haven't seen since like Fox and Monk, and I'll hang up and listen.

We were pretty good early season last year. I mean, remember we beat Duke in one of the early games. I do think this team will be cohesive quicker due to the guys coming back. Wouldn't you think so? Yeah, and a couple times this offseason, Pope has really gone out of his way to talk about every team he's ever had. His freshmen make big jumps to his sophomore year just in how he coaches him and how he teaches and his system. him. He says that's always the biggest jump. I mean, that's kind of natural anyway, freshman to sophomore. But he's talking about it. He's like, look out for Colin Chandler, Trent Noah.

I have a history of doing this. Second year guys have big breakthroughs in just the way have it all set up. So I would expect that of even Brandon Garrison being a second year guy, even though it's not a sophomore, I think a lot of the returning players will see it. Otega Oway was named preseason SEC player of the year. I looked at the preseason SEC players of the year. The list is fascinating. Yeah. first of all, only one freshman in the history of the SEC has been named preseason SEC player of the year. Can you guess the only freshman to ever be named preseason SEC player of the year?

I guess I'll take John Wall then. You're going to take John Wall? What do you think? I'm going to say it's not even a Kentucky player. What is it? But I can't think of one. I guess I'll just have to say Davis to not have dead air here. Davis, what do you think?

I don't believe it's him. Shaquille O'Neill. Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons is the only, no Kentucky player has ever been. Would you like to know the Kentucky players of the Cal era named pre-season SEC player of the year? We've had three. This is a great trivia question.

I'm doing trivia tomorrow at KS Bar. If I did this one, I don't think many people would get it. I can't believe I'm giving this one up because this would be a great one. Can you give me the three Cal players? OA is the first one of the stoops, Pope era, give me the three Cal players named pre-season SEC player

of the year. Oscar. Oscar is one. I'm going to say Terrence Jones. Terrence Jones is two. Good call. Thank you. When Terrence Jones in 2012, when Anthony Davis was player the year, Terrence Jones was preseason player

of the year. Can you get the third? Do you have one, Ryan? No. Trying to think of a returner. One of the Harrison twins. Actually, you know what? There are four. I forgot Aaron Harrison was one of them. Aaron Harrison was preseason player of the year in 2015,

but that wasn't even the one I was thinking of. There were four because Aaron Harrison was one. It's got to be just anyone that made a surprise comeback. Patrick Patterson. Oh, way back. Patrick Patterson was the other SEC preseason player the year under Cal. So of the last 20 preseason players, of the year. Guess how many won preseason

player, but one player of the year? That actually won the award. Yeah. Only three. Yeah, not many. So while I'm excited about Otega, the history of that award has not been great. Mark Sears last year got it. Uh-huh. But in general, it doesn't happen. So just an interesting piece of fact.

Terrence Jones. I didn't think anybody would get Terrence Jones. I shouldn't have given you the hint that there were no freshman. Well, I knew there wasn't a freshman. I said Davis, but I just couldn't think of another SEC freshman, but I knew Kentucky didn't have one. Yeah. Ben Simmons is the only one. And of course, he didn't win the award either.

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Welcome back at this Kentucky Sports Radio. 859-280-2287. One person writes, Saturday they're saying it may rain during the game. Are we having a bluegrasser during the Texas game? Is that what it's supposed to? Is it supposed to rain? I haven't seen that. I haven't seen it either. So would that help or hurt us? Help. No. You think so? If we can get it where all we got to do is run the ball, that's our best advantage.

Slow them down, let us run the ball and run it over. I mean, there's probably some truth to that, right? I don't think. I'm worried we could get shut out. Their defense. I know they have arched and offense. They do have a really good defense. We just saw what they did to Oklahoma. It's a game where we cannot fall behind. Oh, no. If we're behind, it's over. Our over under team total is 14 points on draft Kings. You got to think to beat Texas, you're going to need a lot more than that. Yeah. Well, I do think Lexington, by the way, the next two weekends are going to be Lexington at their finest. Yeah. I would say to you like this, if you, just think about the next two

weekends in Lexington. You start with this weekend, which is Parents Weekend. Parents Weekend, Keenland, Blue White game, UK, Texas for the first time in forever. Right. This weekend's awesome. Then next weekend, Purdue, number one team in the country in basketball, Keenland, I think they have some sales during that,

and then Tennessee. Tennessee. And it's Halloween weekend or the lead end to Halloween. Like, these next two weekends in Lexington are going to be pretty great. And if you don't have a hotel, forget it. This is one of those stretches where sometimes I consider Airbnb my own house. Yeah, I forget.

Because Lexington's going to be Mayhem. I mean, it's going to be Mayhem. It's going to be Mayhem starting Thursday. Adam Sandler's here Thursday night. That's true. He's here this week. You know? So you get Adam Sandler Thursday night.

I mean, Rupp's got Adam Sandler, blue white, Thompson. Cam Thompson. Matt Jones Trivia is starting tomorrow. Matt Jones trivia Wednesday. I mean, the party just starts. One person writes, Matt, could UK use a violation

in a clause to get to stoop's contract to justify his firing? No. No. And even the clause that, like, he can't go talk to other schools, I think UK probably gave, there's something, there's basically a rule and contract law that if you've let them do it in the past, you can't then later use it as the justification. So remember, with Cal, he had a thing that he couldn't talk to other schools, but he had never officially done it. Then he admitted he did it.

And UK was like, all right, you're gone. Can't do that with stoop. Because Stoops acknowledged he talked to Texas A&A. Uh-huh. Yeah. And we didn't do anything about it. So I think if he did it again, UK couldn't say anything. That's, you know, it's so interesting when you think about that, that he almost left us for Texas A&M.

And it might be the reason they can't get rid of him down. It might be the reason they can't get rid of him. Mitch has done many things well. The negotiation of that contract will go down as a low point. David, probably second only to maybe the Billy Gillespie hiring. How are you doing, Matt? Yeah. Go ahead.

Yeah. So I think there's no way Stoops is really even a candidate for Virginia Tech. With his and Beamer's, with his and Shane's relationship, as a father, Frank Beamer is a god at Virginia Tech. I went on a soccer visit with, I coach a large soccer league here in Georgia. And when I went there, I coached JQ Hardaway. And when I went there, Frank Beamer was just walking around. So he's like the godfather there. No, he is. And if you don't like my kid, I don't like you. But there's been some talk that Shane doesn't want that job because he doesn't want to be in his dad's footsteps all the time. Now, he may lose the South Carolina job if they don't do better, and then he'll probably take any job he could get. But that's always been the statement about Shane is that he kind of didn't want to be in his dad's shadow. So on James Franklin, could a school pay him $100,000 a year, let Penn State pay the rest of his salary,

use that money for NIL? It's a great question. I appreciate the call. That has been done in the past. I don't know what the rules are. It depends on the wording of the Penn State contract. But yes, it has been suggested over the years that schools would go. I'll get James Franklin. He's getting $8,9 million a year from Penn State. We'll pay him $150,000 and let Penn State pay the rest of the contract. And if he wants the job, of course he'd take it. And then we'll use that $9 million and get NIL. Wouldn't be the dumbest thing in the world. I've wondered to that too even lower. like, can we sign you for a dollar and just let them cover your entire salary? And if you're James Reagan, you're like, I'm getting up another areas.

And now I can actually get players at the other school. It's hitting my bank account one way or another. Mike, go ahead, Mike. I'm still with stoop. I just don't think we can afford to pay my office, you know, just to fire him. Because if you're young and up-and-coming coach, are you coming to Kentucky? I mean, that seems like where coaches go to die. Yeah, I mean, when you say that, yeah.

Okay, so if I'm an established coach, I think that's a harder thing. But if you're a young up-and-com, let's just think about when we hired Stoops. I mean, he was coming from Florida State, when Florida State was Florida State. Never been a head coach. And he wanted the job. So, yeah, I do think, like, take Will Stein at Oregon. Take Will Stein at Oregon. Don't you?

I am certain. Do you think of that? Let me finish. Yeah, I am certain. Will Stein at Oregon would take this job, unless a better job. was offered. Now, if a better job was offered, he might take that one. But if it was Will Stein was offered this job, he would take it. I know for a fact he would take it. Now, if he's offered Florida, he might take Florida over us. But so yes, I do think they're up-and-coming coaches who would do it.

But don't you think Stoves kind of stayed too long? Because, you know, we all thought even you that nobody could ever. Correct. I did not think anyone would win him. Yeah, I think he stayed too long. be done at Kentucky. I think I do. I do. I think you're right. And I appreciate the call. I think that there is a shelf life for coaches.

And you have to decide. I look at coaching as 10-year grooves. Okay? Everybody's got 10 years in them if they're good. But then about year 10 or 11, you've got to look in the mirror and say now, am I ready for the second 10 years? Because you've got to restart. Ryan, chances are you going to have to relearn some rules? rules.

The game's going to have changed. You're not going to be able to have rested on your laurels. Now am I ready for number two? Remember Nick Saban did this? He got through 10 years, kind of hit a bump, and he said, you know what? I'm going to do it. Hired Lane Kiffin. Changed up his offense.

Changed everything. Then he had a great second 10-year run. Cal Perry, amazing 10-year run. Got to 2020. Could change. Decided not to. Hired his boys. stoop's great 10-year run gets to 20 what 22 23 time to change doesn't happen I think guys get 10 years

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