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We got Ryan Lemon's former news director is in the house.
How are you doing?
My first ever news director, John Stern.
from Channel 7, I Witness News in Evansville.
It was eyewitnesses.
Oh, eyewitness news.
What news did you witness when you were?
Oh, there was all kind of news going on.
What was the biggest news story while you worked in Evansville?
Well, there was a horrific plane crashed.
Well, way to bring the mood down on the show.
Okay, but I did ask.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was tough.
That shook the whole community for a long time.
What about the biggest sports story?
Well, Don Mattingly had just, you know, became famous and was like tearing up to the American League with the Yankees when I was working there.
But why was that a big story in Evansville?
Oh, he's from Evansville.
I'm sorry.
Okay.
He's an Evansville guy.
I just thought you just anything Don Mattingly did was a big deal.
I'm sorry.
I used to be an eyewitness to Ryan on eyewitness news.
Watched him every night.
Wow.
Got into the Scott Rowland highlights?
Scott Rowland?
Yeah, I gave Scott Rowland his first ever TV interview.
I gave Walter McCarty his first ever TV interview.
So you're saying Walter McCarty, Scott Rowland, and Don Mattingley all owe something to you.
Absolutely, yes.
Scott started them on their way.
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It is a beautiful day outside.
We are two days away from a huge weekend in Lexington.
You've got the blue-white game.
You've got the UK Texas.
It's going to be its parents weekend.
Adam Sandler is in town Thursday night.
Drew, I think this is one of the Keenland.
This is one of the big weekends you had in Lexington.
October in the city.
Yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun for everyone participating.
But to anyone just trying to get around town and live their regular life,
it's going to be terrible.
I'm expecting absolute chaos.
It is good for Lexington.
This will be one of the biggest weekends of the year.
This will be a great weekend here at the bar, too.
That's what I'm looking forward to.
The pre-gay, it was 7 o'clock game against Texas.
We'll have people in here the night before because the blue-white and parents,
we get everybody coming in town, and then all day, Saturday.
The reason, you know, because when we reopened this, we had some talks about,
you know, do we want to keep doing this?
And we keep doing it for days like Saturday where this place is a whole lot of fun.
It becomes a special place to be on game day.
You do your pregame, your tailgating here, and then go to the game.
And it sounds like there's going to be a really good crowd.
I mean, tickets are kind of hard to get.
The ones that are getting are expensive because people are gobbling them up.
Can I tell a quick story?
I wasn't going to tell this story, but I feel like I want to tell it.
It's a storytelling with Uncle Matt.
All right.
So this is a true story that happened to me last week.
All right.
So I got a phone call from my agent.
on Thursday.
And he said,
Hey, Matt,
there's somebody that wants to talk to you.
It's fairly important.
And you need to keep your phone on you all day.
Like, as soon as they call,
you need to be able to answer.
This was a media person.
So I can't really say what it is.
You just have to just assume.
Big deal.
Big media person.
I say, okay.
They're like, and look,
if he calls during the show,
you got to find a way to jump off the show and take the call.
You told me the other day to be ready.
I was like, I may have to jump and take a call.
All right, so get through the morning, no call.
Show, no call.
Get to the afternoon.
I have to go to the doctor, trying to figure out, you know, trying to make sure these floaters I have are okay.
And they're okay.
Good.
But I'm going.
But I say to the doctor, I'm like, listen, Doc, I hate to do this.
But if I get a phone call, I have to take it.
Okay.
Yeah.
And he was like, all right, fine, whatever.
Of course, during the show, phone rings.
And I know from earlier that the person called me is going to have a 202 number, right?
Okay.
Phone rings, a 202 number.
I look at the doctor.
I'm like, I'm sorry.
I have to take this call.
I feel bad, but I have to.
Hello.
This person goes, hey, Matt, what's up?
But like in a familiar way.
Uh-huh.
So I'm, you know, remember me, I'm thinking this is media person.
Then the guy goes, so what do you know about sperm racing?
Sperm racing?
Sperm racing.
We would like to bring it to KS. Barr the day of the Texas game.
Sperm racing.
Yes.
And I said, who is this?
It was not my boss.
It was not the media person.
This was just some random person.
And they were wanting to set up in the parking lot something to talk about male infertility
and have an 800-person tailgate here about sperm racing.
I said, sir, can I call you back?
I'm in the doctor.
I get off the phone call back.
Now, I want you to think, here's the thing you're in a little tiny office with the doctor.
He heard all that.
And I said, and I looked and I could tell him on his face.
He's wanting to.
I could tell he'd heard it.
And he's wanting to talk about it.
And he goes, so was that important?
He said, so was that important?
And I said, that was not the media person.
I don't know what it was.
So I had to decline, Drew, that event here in the parking lot for UK, Texas.
I said, we're already going to be very crowded.
We can't have that.
But somewhere in Lexington is an 800-person event.
happening on Saturday in terms of the things that are going to be happening in this city.
I'm glad you explained it as trying to help people with health issues.
I didn't know where we were going.
This is a restaurant.
That would hurt our health score.
That would hurt our health score.
That makes a little more sense.
I would call it something differently.
You know, I think they do it to get your attention, but I think it's going to, I think
that backfires in my opinion.
But they wanted to take up the whole parking lot to do it.
And I was like you.
I don't think it's good for our health score.
We're a restaurant, you know.
So, anyway, never ended up.
I turned that down, Ryan.
I hope you're okay.
You know, we're usually open to any kind of promotional.
We weren't open to that.
Not open to that one.
We were not open to that.
All right, I want to, for the last few weeks, or the last couple weeks, we've been talking a lot about the stupid situation.
And I thought to myself yesterday, I do not want to open with that again.
But then I don't think we have a choice because, and again, I want to give credit to her a leader here.
They got Mitch Barnhart for an interview.
and Mitch Bernhardt made a couple of quotes that I think we just have to discuss.
He was asked about basically about the Stoop's situation and the contract,
and I'm going to read you both things.
Now, this is all in the Herald leader you can read.
John Hale has an interview.
John Hale does two stories, one of which is he traces Mark Stoop's contract
from the first one to now so you can see how it's advanced.
It's kind of fascinating.
But let's start with the most important question,
which is he was asked about his confidence in Mark Stoops.
Here's Mitch Barnhart's quote, and I want to get your two-year-olds take on it.
Quote, Mark is working hard.
Can I promise everything that everybody wants me to promise?
No, there's no promise.
We can play our hearts out and go have one tough moment that goes against you in a game,
and all of a sudden you find yourself with a loss that you didn't want.
And that doesn't mean you didn't give effort.
You didn't you work your way through it,
but Mark and his guys are working home.
Now, I have a reaction to that.
Drew, what's yours?
Well, first I rolled my eyes because kind of back to work and we're working is getting
They're big on getting back to work on Monday.
I've been like that for a long time.
It kind of just feels like Barnhart's throwing out a little bit of support for stoops
and just going to let the result tell the end of the, tell the story at the end of the season.
It wasn't a lot of support.
Yeah, I mean, it's kind of just.
just kicking it down to...
And he says, we can play our hearts out and then not win.
I mean, that's...
It's almost like he's like acknowledging we may not win very many games the rest of the year.
At least that's how I took it.
He's saying, we got his back, but it wasn't a vote of confidence,
but it just seems like he's...
We'll know at the end of the year.
He's going to let him play it out and the wins will tell the story.
Yeah, that was no vote of confidence at all for your coach.
I read it.
I took it as like...
Like, I'm going to use you as an example.
We were just talking about you in high school,
basketball.
You know, the guy that sits at the end of the bench.
It's not a good sign for Mark Stoops if you're using my high school basketball career
as an example.
The guy that sits at the end of the bench, good guy, man, he works hard.
He really a hard worker.
No, you're never going to get on the floor.
Not you're going to be able to play, but boy, you sure are a hard worker.
That's how I heard that paragraph.
You know, just using, just using his example.
Well, that's not a good sign for his future because they did ask me to be a manager
halfway through my career.
So I don't know that that will help him.
Now, the next, so part two of the article came out today, and I think it's the more important part.
He traces Mark Stoops' time here.
By the way, do you know what Mark Stoops' first deal with Kentucky was?
No.
Five years, $11 million.
Wow.
It makes that pretty much almost makes that a year.
Five years, $11 million.
Now he's making over $9 million every season.
But this is the key.
People may not remember.
At the end of the 2021 season, he signed an extension.
Okay?
So he signed an extension that was very similar to his other extensions.
It had a buyout of around $25 million, and it was very similar to the other season.
He was making like $7 million a year, et cetera.
We win the first four games of the 2022 season.
Do you remember who we beat?
Miami of Ohio, Youngstown, what was the other one?
I think Florida was the big win.
Florida and then one more.
So three bad teams in Florida.
All right.
At 4-0, we give him another extension.
Now, here's this extension.
Raises the buyout from $25 million right now to $38 million.
So raise it by 13 years.
Makes the buyout due within 60 days of leaving and extends him for three more years.
John Hale asked Mitch Barnhart, why did you do that?
four games into the season.
This was after we blocked that kick.
You remember and ran it back against Florida?
Here was his answer.
We were four and O going, and by the way, we signed the contract.
Do you remember three days later we lost to Vandy at home?
That was kind of the start of the slide.
We're six and 20 in the SEC since that contract.
He said, we were four and O going into that,
and there was a lot of talk around our program
and a lot of talk about Mark being in the running for other.
their jobs.
This is the key quote.
Our fans wanted us to make sure we didn't lose a guy that had been so beneficial to our
program, and so we walked through that.
We were thankful to be able to secure him as our football coach and keep him around
and make sure he's a wildcat, and I'm still proud of that today.
Ooh.
Could have gone without that last sentence.
There's an unnecessary sentence there.
That last sentence is a sentence that's getting some traction online.
Two things that I want to ask you about that.
What about the first comment?
Our fans wanted us to make sure we didn't lose a guy.
Do you think that was true four games into the 2022 season?
I'm trying to remember.
I mean, we just come off the Citrus Bowl win with Will Levis the year before.
We had.
Ten wins.
Now we're four in all the next year.
We're talking about building a statue for the guy.
I think he's the greatest coach in the history of college football.
But do you think you need to do it right then?
No.
Because you do it on a Tuesday.
We lose at home to Vandy the next week.
I think there's a really good chance you'd do.
Don't give him that if you lost a vain.
Waited one more week.
If you had waited one more week.
Well, if they truly did it after 4-0, I have the schedule now.
Three of your four wins were Miami-Yungstown in Northern Illinois.
You left out Northern Illinois.
But they were eighth in the country, I guess, with that Florida win.
But if it was truly after four wins, then they went, lost, loss, win, lost, loss, loss.
Yeah, well, we lost to Vandy.
And then we lost to South Carolina home.
Ole Miss was next.
O'Miss.
Then South Carolina now.
because it didn't come out until before the Vandy game.
Bart Hart said after four games.
They did it behind closed doors after four games.
We all found out before the Vandy game.
But John Hale makes the point.
They didn't do an announcement.
It was only found out because somebody requested something else
and it was added on to it.
So this extension that supposedly our fans wanted us to do,
they didn't even make a public announcement about it.
I think that's important.
If you're going to say,
because look, I like Mitch,
but this is kind of, I want to say, I think this is kind of a BS thing to say.
If you're going to say our fans wanted us to make sure we didn't lose the guy,
then why didn't you announce it?
It only came out because they requested some other public contract,
and it was added to it.
And we found out, you're right, before the Vandy game, which was later in the year.
But clearly you didn't do this because there was a clamoring for him to stay.
You didn't even make a public announcement about it.
He's rewriting history.
He's really saying all the fans wanted it, you would have made it.
you would have made graphics and paraded that around time.
If this was because, hey, fans, we want you to know we've got him,
we wouldn't have found out because Bob asked for the file about a,
and then they accidentally, I don't remember if they accidentally or intentionally,
but Mark Stoop's contract was part of that, Ryan.
I think Mitch Barnett was so afraid of losing Stoops and losing Cal Perry.
He made these ridiculous off these contracts.
He didn't want me to the guy that let Cala Perry go to the UCLA or whatever.
But wouldn't it just be more honest to go that?
Yeah.
And at the end to say, I'm still proud of it.
That worries me.
If you still think that was a good deal.
Like, I can accept people might make mistakes.
But, Drew, if you still think that was a good decision where we're sitting right now,
I don't know what to say at that point.
Yeah, we all know the results.
And now that I'm looking at the schedule on him saying it was done after four games,
in that same month they lost the Tennessee 44 to 6 with two other wins that month.
It seems the moment Penn went to paper.
It just completely flipped the switch.
Winning went to losing instantly.
Levis got hurt.
Remember when they started this?
Got hurt.
Yeah.
So, you know, so if you read those articles, it doesn't seem like to me he's going,
Mark Stoops will be here until the end of time.
But he's also, and I feel like it's just deja vu.
John Calgary, Mark Stoops, and Mitch Barnhart all have extremely different personalities.
They're not in any way the same person.
But they all have that stubborn.
streak where they can't just say we made a mistake. And I know he can't come out and say,
I made a mistake. I mean, I don't expect him to do that when he's here. But the, I'm still proud of
that. It continues this view of people who are just like, well, I don't, I don't mess up.
Everything else goes wrong. I am perfect. And I, that just, that just annoys me. We'll take a break.
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Yeah. Drew, you made a very good point that I want to say.
Mitch Barnhart, in that article, he has one more thing that's important.
He says, he's sort of explaining the dip in how Kentucky has performed.
And I want to read you this quote.
If everybody will reflect on the program that Mark inherited and where he took us eight straight years,
By the way, he doesn't have a clause after that.
That's not a sentence.
But nevertheless, it's what he says.
If everyone will reflect on the program that Stoops inherited and where he took us for eight straight years,
then the changes in the world of college athletics occurred,
and it was a struggle for us for a couple years just to try and find our way.
So in the middle part, we all were fine and everything was good, and now we're having to adjust.
I think isn't it worth noting that the struggles, which is what he's talking about with NIL,
everyone, myself included in us,
were warning Mitch that we were behind.
Like everybody was saying,
Mitch, you are behind,
and he was insisting he wasn't,
and now he's using the excuse of being behind
as an excuse when at the time he was saying he wasn't behind.
Honestly, of everything in this interview,
the stoop stuff, all of it,
the NIL part stood out to me the most
because I was thinking in real time,
I felt like every morning we're being like,
is Mitch going to say anything about NIL?
Like other ADs are making videos telling fans come participate.
But how can you be behind and then use the fact that you chose to be behind as an excuse?
You did that.
We all remember.
We were here.
Now, I give him a lot of credit.
He's reversed course.
But the reason there was that two-year dip was you.
I mean, that's actually something I don't blame Mark for.
We were two years behind on NIL because Mitch and Cal would not embrace.
it at first. Now, Mark tried to embrace it at first. The university fought him. He did it privately,
and he kind of kept the program afloat in like 22 or like 22 and 23 on his own. And then it kind of,
I think, hit us last year. But that's on Mitch in some ways, right? Yeah, he was openly critical
of NIL. Remember he's talked about, thought there'd be problems in the locker room and things
that would happen if they went that route. So he tried to stay away from him as long as he possibly could, I think.
And there are so many other schools just being open about it.
Tennessee especially, their AD was like making videos and playing in the stadium.
Like, fans, we need your money.
And it was just silent over here because they were afraid to get involved.
Yeah.
So I actually don't, I mean, I'm glad they did the interview.
I think John Hale did a good job with it.
And I guess I'm glad he did it.
But I actually don't think he helped himself at all.
Just that one line there, the end of that one sentence,
and I'm still proud of this contract.
That line right there alone is what's going to blow up.
So if you were trying to read the tea leaves and say,
does this sound like a coach who would make a change at the end of the year? What would you say?
From what you just read? No. Did you read the whole story?
No, I didn't even hear about this second story came out this morning.
The one yesterday.
You read the stories. Would you, what would you take about it?
I would, I've always wondered what like a five win or if it's close. Like if four wins,
it seems like if it's close, Mitch would lean keeping him.
I still think if it's, if he don't win an SEC game,
he's made it to where you have to make it move.
But it does sound like if it's kind of one, if it's on the fence,
I think Mitch would lean towards keeping him a little bit.
That's exactly how I read it.
I kind of read it as if it's three or four, he doesn't have a choice.
If it's six, he's keeping him.
And then the question was, what would happen if it's five?
If you read that, I think five sounds like he would lean to keep it.
Like they're working.
We improved from last year.
We'll ignore the fact that we fell so far.
But three or four, there's nothing that you can.
There's nothing they can.
That'll take care of itself.
The pressure will be so bad if they don't win more games.
And you made a good point.
When we made that extension to go from $25 million buyout to 38,
I think I put in my tweet 10.
What Mitch meant was 10 or it was let, like more.
So that was, I misread that.
So it was 25 to 38.
But that addition, the week before, we had only beaten Northern Illinois by seven points.
So Mitch is also, I think, playing with history to say the fans were asking for it.
I don't think the fans were against it, but we were not standing outside the gates going to extend Mark Stoops right now.
And when he says 4-0, you think, oh, we're 4-0.
I think noting that three of those were the Cupcake teams that season were in the first four games is an important detail.
Yeah, we beat Florida.
Yeah, and that was huge, not taking that away from them.
But the other three, you know, there are different versions of 4-1-4.
4-0 in football.
I totally agree with that.
We talk about the Northern Illinois win.
I remember we struggled to beat Youngstown State that day at Ruff Arena at Crogerfield.
Did we?
Was that game close?
He was close for a while.
I was sitting right behind all the Stoop's family and people, and they were like laughing and goofing off.
Oh, because that was the one that he had won.
That was the big homecoming where they had the party and all that.
That's when Mark Stoop's friend knocked Max across the room.
Really?
Have we never told that before?
I don't know if I know this story.
Yeah, never mind.
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Quickly wanted to ask you, Ron.
Did you hear about what happened in London with the rapper that closed down the interstate to do a music video and got arrested?
I saw this story, but I don't know who the rapper was.
The rapper was Armani White.
I don't know this person.
So Armani White was driving down the interstate apparently, stopped right there next to like exit 41 or whatever, just got out of his car, blocked the interstate and started filming a music video.
Got up on the concrete wall or something, right?
concrete wall was filming the music video traffic stopped and the city police in london arrested him
and now uh he is being he's going to be charged with something i'm not exactly sure but basically
you can't just stop on the interstate and film a music video london has had the craziest
both you know you had the tragedy of the tornado you've been they've been trying to impeach
the mayor they impeached him now he's back you have the videos of the city council people getting
fights with people in the parking lot, and now rappers stopping on the interstate to do videos.
I really need to see the video of this come out.
I'm not encouraging you should do it, but I'm wondering if he's trying to do like a play on London.
We have a Paris.
Like Jay-Z has a lyric in London.
I pull the bins up.
Is this guy just trying to shortcut all of our, you know, London, Paris, all these things and make a, make it around the world video?
Bag, Dad.
Do we have one of those?
Yeah, we do, yeah.
The audacity to just pull over on the interstate and just think this is my set to make a video.
There's like a mugshot.
He got taken to the Laurel County Correctional Facilities.
Is Armani White?
Is he a big rapper?
Because he is?
A little bit?
Because the story called him a, quote, famous rapper.
Yeah.
Well, but I didn't know if that was just like somebody got asked to write it who doesn't know who a famous rapper is.
I saw he's opening for T-Pain currently, so I don't know.
He has one single it says that peaked at number 58 on the billboard charts.
So you got up to 58 on the billboard charts.
You tell me if that's famous.
I don't know.
But the thing is you can't just be stopping on the interstate in London and think you can just film a music video.
You have to have a permit for that in the city of London.
But now that he's done it, I think we should let him finish the production.
He can't go do it again, but let's get the final product.
Well, him getting arrested should be part of the video.
It should be. They should have kept the camera rolling.
Yes, they should have.
I would think. Who's up first, Shannon?
Trevor.
Trevor. Go ahead, Trevor.
Hey, Matt, this is Trevor out of London.
First off, why is it always us?
So you're in London. What a coincidence.
I bet the word spread quickly.
I bet the word spread quickly.
Yeah, it did.
Yeah.
It did. And it was, it's all over the Facebook and stuff.
But my question for asking for Wednesday, it's legit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My question is, so towards the end there with Cal, the relationship between Stoops and Cal seemed to be a little bit weird, a little bit off.
Yes.
Just like between the two.
So with Pope being so positive, and it seems like everybody loves him, and we're in the transition from football to basketball, and Stoops with the fans is kind of on the outs.
What's the relationship like between Stoops and Pope?
I've heard the relationship between Stoops and Pope is great.
I've not heard one.
I appreciate the call.
Pope, I think, gets along with everybody.
You know, and to be fair to Cal, I think that was like that with him for a long time.
I think the moment the relationship, Cal, when we've talked about Cal's relationship with the boosters,
with everybody, that's when it started getting worse with the other coaches as well.
I mean, there was the time coaches could bring their recruits to go see Cal.
I think that stopped after COVID.
but Stoops and Cow's relationship became very, very toxic at the end.
You saw it get public after the basketball school comment,
but the reason that comment came about is it had been very toxic the year before that anyway,
for a variety of reasons.
I think the Stoops' cow toxicity really started with NIL.
I mean, Cal had the belief that UK football should get nothing.
I mean, that was his kind of belief.
His belief was, look, well, he said it, right?
basketball school. So the idea that we're giving money to football, what are you doing?
I don't think that's been Mark Pope's view at all. And so Pope and Stoops have gone, but
yet have done well. But Stoops and Cal was a very, very toxic relationship. And then, of course,
it got public, Ryan, when those comments were made, but it was toxic before that.
Early in Cal's tenure, he was great. He would not just entertain football recruits. He would
entertain volleyball recruits, tennis recruits. The coaches would bring people in.
He would try to sell the university.
Cal was very gracious when we were losing.
He liked it.
No, I mean, he was.
He was very gracious to Joker.
He was gracious to Stoops in those early years.
I think that season, I think what happened is when we had that Will Levis year,
remember our basketball team was stinking.
Just come off that bad, what, nine and 16 season?
So you got to remember where we were then.
The basketball team had just had that awful year.
then here comes this Will Levesh year where we're great.
And this kind of felt a little bit like a football school for a year or two, right?
And then Cal's struggling and he's getting fan pushback for the first time.
And I think that's when the tension really mounted.
Yeah, I've heard of riffs also behind the scenes.
We've talked a lot about how Cal and Barnhart weren't exactly close and Cal would go rogue and wanted to run basketball as his own thing.
and that would lead to times where there's like a UK athletics coaching event and everybody's there and it's like,
where's Cal?
But Stoops is there and everyone else is there and it kind of just them getting annoyed of like Cal kind of being off on himself over there with the basketball offices,
whereby else was still doing a lot of things together.
And it's like, I'm here.
And I don't think you could also, I don't think you could underestimate the role that the high school cafeteria that is Jeff Ruby's played in that.
I mean, I'm not kidding.
Like, you know what I mean.
I mean, Jeff Rubies, every Friday, Saturday night, would be the football and basketball staff.
And while the staffs kind of got along, there was some football people on this side of the room, basketball people on this side of the room, basketball people would sit in a private room in the back.
Football people would sit with the people, right?
And I think, I know that sounds dumb, but at the end of the day, these are just human beings, right?
And there was a mean girl's cafeteria sense a little bit with the staffs.
Is that fair to say?
Yeah, and you're closer to Vince than anybody,
and Vince is the king down there at Jeff Rubies.
I never thought, though, he had a problem with anybody with basketball.
He towards the end didn't like Cal.
He loved the rest of the staff.
But towards the end, I mean, Vince was kind of the last Cal holdout,
and he even lost him kind of at the end.
But I'm not trying to, Cal lost everybody at the end.
I mean, name me someone involved with UK athletics that by the end was a Cal.
defender. Actually, I have one, and his name's Mitch Barnhart in Tocale. Yeah, but on a
interview TV show together. He did, but on a personal level he didn't like him. That's true. That goes
way back because they just didn't have much of a working relationship. I don't think there was one
really at the end. I mean, maybe somebody could make me think of one, but I can't think of one
at the end. Who's up next? Dan. Dan, go ahead, Dan.
I have a comment
and a question
I'm not sure what
would be
excitedable
what would motivate
Virginia Tech
like their fan base
why would they be excited
about Stoops
and my question is
I think Stoops
you know
he should go to a major program
but become the defensive
coordinator
in a dream world
I'd love to see him
become the D.C. at Louisville
and that way we could
just kind of
ramp up that rival
that would be sad
if Mark Stoves became
the defensive coordinator
at Louisville
that would certainly add to ramp up the ride.
I think he is kind of born to some extent.
I mean, if he wanted to, and I appreciate the call, Drew, if he wanted to, when he left here,
he could be the defensive coordinator at a big time program probably.
He could do it anywhere, but when you've been the boss for so long,
and you've got millions on top of your millions on top of your millions,
would you want to go work for someone else at a lesser position in the same field?
Yeah, I mean, he's making not want to do that.
He's making $9 million a year.
If he becomes the defensive coordinator at Bama, what's he making?
A million and a half.
I mean, that's a huge godown, right?
Unless he's just going to do it for a year or two with hopes of getting another head coaching job somewhere else.
He'll get one one day if he wants.
I mean, first of all, we're acting like he's done.
He may be the coach here for a long time.
I mean, I don't know.
If it got to that point, you really wanted to just get on his staff until he found another job,
I could see Kirby.
He and Kirby are close.
I can see him putting him there.
If it were me and I were him in this brawl to end soon, I would take my money and enjoy the beach.
By the way, Kirby is still insisting he did not call a timeout.
It's crazy.
There's just video evidence showing you calling the timeout.
In his press conference, they were like, we saw you make a tea.
And he was like, no, you didn't.
It was an optical illusion.
What did you say, Shand?
It was an optical illusion.
It was an optical illusion.
I mean, he still says, no, I was just saying they were clapping.
Is this the sound for clapping?
The T with your hand?
While yelling time out?
Yelling time out.
In his ear while running toward the ref.
What a liar.
What an absolute lie.
I've always liked Kirby Smart, but that's like the lionest thing I've ever seen.
As simple, you caught me.
He to the moment, being competitive, I'm wrong, you got me.
No, just say.
Just something like that.
I was trying to pull one on you.
Did you see what Lane Kiffin said about him?
Did you see that?
Somebody asked, Sharon, I couldn't believe Lake Hiffon said this.
Somebody asked Lane Kiffin, they played Georgia this weekend.
Who burns more calories during the game?
You are Kirby Smart.
And his answer was, I just saw Kirby Smart press conference this morning.
Doesn't look like to me he's burned too many calories.
Wow.
Wow.
I always said he burns a lot from all that clapping he does.
I mean, whoa.
Everybody says their friends.
and he's kidding, but still, that was kind of...
I've gotten to worry.
I really enjoy Lane Giff.
I hated him at Tennessee.
He's just so open and stuff like this and picking on Fondbaum.
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We've had five different champions over the quarter.
We've had five groups, one group, one twice.
We've had many different champions.
Yeah, the Ryan Lemon Dream team needs to bounce back.
We did not do well in the finals you had this last time.
I think there were, what, 31 teams you came in like 28?
I think so, yeah.
Maybe even 29.
Are you going to be here tonight?
Can't make it tonight, but the Dream team is still active.
We're going to come back and qualify one of these Wednesday nights.
All right.
Well, come on out.
You can call this afternoon later and make your reservation or come out.
It should be able to seat you regardless and should be a good crowd this evening.
Getting a lot of the Wings Day deals too.
Yep.
Adam Sandler's here tomorrow.
Would you want to see Adam Sandler?
I actually would like to go on.
My son Gavin's working the concert, you know, setting up the stage and stuff,
but that's something I think I would love to see.
I mean, what do you have to do?
I mean, you clearly have no one at home.
I mean, you've been very clear that you just sit and stare into space.
Why don't you just go?
Well, my parents are coming in tonight.
So they would like it.
They're big lunch ladyland fans.
Probably.
They would like it probably even more than I would, yeah.
So why don't you take them?
That would be a nice son thing to do.
I mean, I'm sure we can see you're in your head.
How much is it going to cost?
I mean, we could find a way to get you tickets.
I'll check with them when they come in tonight, see if they want to go tomorrow.
If only you knew somebody with free tickets.
Yeah, if only you knew somebody that gives one way on the pre-show, like every day.
It feels like you could.
They did give away a lot of those tickets.
I don't think they offered us any at all, did they?
Because you haven't asked.
And you're an employee.
They're not just going to give you one.
I mean, they don't just like come to your house and go, Ryan, would you like these tickets?
Like, you do have to take some initiative.
Okay, I'm going to work on this.
I would personally like to go.
He acts like this is an unfixable solution, Shannon.
Yeah.
Like if only one could figure out how you get into the Adam Sandler.
It's in 10 years.
You know how to get it.
How would that possibly work?
I don't think he wants to go that bad.
I don't think so either.
And he's going to blame his parents, even though you're right.
Your parents probably would like to go.
Are you going to try to go?
I can't.
But I would like, I genuinely, I mean, would go if I have to go to Louisville Thursday evening,
or I would definitely do it.
Did you ever watch the Happy Gilmore 2?
No, not yet.
I watched it.
It was good for about halfway,
then it kind of got a little off the rails a little bit.
I don't know if you saw the Lexington
is going to do a massive renovation of New Circle Road
over there where all the traffic lights are.
They're going to try to make it to where,
if you've ever been over there during rush hour, don't.
There's traffic lights, and then it's danger.
and it's just like people running out in the street.
I mean, it's literally from like Richmond Road to what,
to Bryan Station, basically, that whole way.
Woodhill and all that.
So anyway, they're going to do a massive renovation.
So they're having, they've put out what they're going to do,
and they're inviting public comment on whether it's a good idea.
And I had somebody write me last night and say,
for a man that wants to be mayor,
and who has had strong opinions about traffic.
Ryan, do you think you should publicly comment on the new circle renovation?
It would be a good chance for you to show your city leadership skills.
Well, I appreciate you asking me my advice on it, because I really put a lot of thought and process.
I've got a team working on it right now.
I've always thought since I moved to Lexington, why is this supposed to be this bypass around the city of Lexington,
and yet half of it is loaded with all these stoplights over there?
Well, that's what they're going to try to fix.
Get rid of them.
Okay, but how would you do it?
You can't just take them away.
There are businesses over there.
You have to crosswalks.
They're crosswalks.
I mean, there are people that that's the only way you can get from one side of town to the other.
So what would you do?
I'm going to, like, build one of these.
Well, like we have on the other side.
Just build the intersections that are up.
You've got to exit off down to get to the lower level.
I'm going to build a lot of the intersections on all those stoplights.
We're having a lot of intersections where you exit off.
They already have intersections.
Right now where they have a stoplight.
We're going to have the intersection where there's no stoplight.
But then what are you going to do about the businesses?
Well, they're going to still survive because you're going to be able to exit off the New Circle Road and get down there to them.
We're going to raise New Circle Road.
You're going to build like a mountain.
This is a multi-level.
Wow.
It may be way up in the sky, but we're going to get you over that, all that traffic and all those businesses.
This is sounding to me like it's going to be expensive.
So the road is up in the air.
The road is up in the air.
What about a pedestrian bridge on the current road where they could go,
across the street.
That seems like it'd be a little cheaper than taking the whole road up.
On that side of New Sugar Road, it is like Frogger with guys trying to cross the road at crazy places.
So we're going to have our own little walkway areas down on the, you know, not on the up-in-air stuff.
If I may, is one of your advisors.
They have a system that they've used people with actual architectural skills to come up with a solution.
They're on my team.
Wouldn't it be easier to go look at the?
and comment than for you to, out of the blue, create a new system.
Well, see, we're testing it right now on Leastown Road.
We're going to build that double diamond over there with the overpass, so we're going to do a lot of that stuff.
But again, you're missing the point.
On Lees Town Road, there are no businesses on New Circle Road.
The problem here is the businesses are on New Circle Road.
They're not off of New Circle Road.
They're on them.
What are you going to do for them?
Think about Popeyes and Little Caesars.
They're going to be okay.
Now, the sidewalk in front of them, that may be gone.
We may be doing away with sidewalks.
Why do you hate sidewalks so much?
We need more. Have you been on sidewalks?
Not less.
People don't walk on sidewalks.
They just want to walk quite across the street.
People don't go down to the legal area.
They just cross wherever they are.
There are people walking on sidewalks everywhere right now.
Yeah, not in Lexington.
We're not a big sidewalk people.
We just like to walk across the road.
He's hurting his campaign, Janet.
I'm worried as this goes on.
I'm not really following it too well.
Me either.
Who's next?
Let's go to Justin.
Justin, go ahead, Justin.
Hey, I've been listening for a few years, and I was wondering, where did you come up with a hoo-a whenever someone says first time, long time?
You know, I don't remember.
There was like an ESPN show that people would say first time, long time, and then they'd hit a button and a sound came, and so maybe I just, at one point did it.
It's just kind of, it just kind of happened, you know, you don't, all of a sudden you're just,
doing it all the time.
Oh, okay. Well, that's all. I appreciate it.
All right. Well, there you go.
It was the fabulous sports babe. You'd call her show first time, long time,
and bam, she'd hit one of those sound machines.
First of all, I've never one time.
What's going on?
I've never one time listened to the fabulous sports bag.
I know it didn't come from the fabulous sports game.
Yeah, that's what she used to hit.
First time, long time she'd hit a button and all these sound effects would go off.
I believe you, but that's not where I got it, because I've never listened to that.
Yeah, I think by the time we started, she was long gone.
She was super popular for a long time, like in the late 80s, early 90s.
Like super popular.
I know who she is.
She was the first national sports show.
Yeah, syndicated.
Yeah.
First national syndicated sports daily show was a woman.
A lot of people don't know that.
We do those noises again, though.
Sounds like my internet.
This kind of sound effects like that.
I don't make any of those sounds.
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