KSR - 2025-11-12- KSR - Hour 2

Episode Date: November 12, 2025

Matt, Ryan, Drew, and Shannon talk Kentucky's loss to Louisville and take your calls.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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People were into it. I was told when the game ended, though it looked like Night of the Walking Dead walking out of here. Like everybody just looks so sad. They left at the same moment, just depressed. Monique said it was a great crowd. People were sitting on the patio. They stayed until the end of the game. When the game was over, they had their head down and did not talk and say a word to anybody and just walked out.

I get it. I mean, that's kind of how I felt, you know, towards the end as well. It's tough. But you know what? We move on next game. We'll play Eastern Illinois. They lost to Notre Dame by 20 last night, so we play them on Friday. I do hate that this pulled us out of the BBN United Tip-Off Classic to get distracted right before the championship game coming up on Friday.

That has not been lost on me. But I will say it did help swallow the pill of losing to Louisville that it's kind of a blowout. I mean, it's not like they hit the Edgar Sosa shot at the end of the game to steal it. I was ready for it about five minutes into the game. Well, see, that's interesting. I have the opposite view. I was kind of prepared to lose the game. What bothers me about the game is how bad we were down most of the game.

I mean, I... That's what I mean. I had two hours to know the... It wasn't like it was just at the end. Something happened and stole it. I had two hours of getting used to knowing how it was going to end. I really thought they were going to run us off the floor there for a minute. Well, they were.

They did run us off the floor for a while. They ran us off the floor twice, and we came back. But to, you know, to Kentucky's credit, I mean, they were, twice, that game was a 20-point game. And both times we did fight back. I mean, I do give them credit for that. That's, there are teams we've had. You know, we saw that stat. Kentucky hadn't won a game where they were down 20 in like 16 years or something.

That was kind of an interesting stat. That's why I was talking about that one possession. You cut it all the way down to four. You have the ball. Your point guard, your leaders got it. Run the offense, get a good shot, and he jacks up one from that. The logo. I forgot to share my Cory Price's stat of the day earlier because it's not good.

There's a lot to it. Let me just read it directly. But he says, and he doesn't lie, Otega O'A last night was the only Kentucky player over the last 20 years to have five fouls, five turnovers, shoot worse than 35% from the field and worse than 20% from three. So he's saying like Otega O'A had one of the all-time bad games. That was one of the worst games. and was pulled off the floor in late-game situations. That's the thing that's, if you would say, was there a game last year where Otega O'Re was not on the floor in crunch time?

Probably not. It went to him in crunch time. And he was pulled off the floor for a lot of the end of the game. And when he was in, missed a wide open three towards the end. So that's surprising. Very surprising. Now, one person writes, Matt, I don't know why you're so upset. You guys are acting like it's the end of the world.

We played a top 15 team on their home floor, got the first. their best effort and only lost by eight. Okay, I actually don't disagree with that if it was a back and forth game, but we got destroyed for a part of the game. Now, we did come back, and we had a chance. I mean, to be honest, you go to the final TV timeout. It's a four-point game, and we have the ball. That's not bad.

But I think you do have to consider, though, how you got there in the process of talking about. What was that play that low had the four-point play, and I think gave us the lead. That was crazy. Fowled on a three. Fout on a three. Faddle on something like a 19-2 run after that. I think that's where we kind of let the game slip away. Was it?

When was that? It was like midway through the first half and low hit the four-point. Oh, that's right, yes. And then they just went on a hell of a run. That was where I was talking about. That was where they went on that. I think that's where they really lost the game right there. Yeah.

By the way, we have trivia tonight. I'm finishing the questions this afternoon. So get your team. Come on out here and join us for trivia. should be a fun night. You know, usually, this would be a good chance to win one. Sometimes when we lose the next night, people are kind of sad and they don't come out as much. So this would be a good night to come in.

You might, even if your team stinks, you could maybe become a finalist based on, this would be a good time, Ryan Lemon, to actually have your team be able to move on. Oh, Ryan's Dream Team is ready to roll. I've even picked up a new ringer to join us tonight. Bingles Paul. Oh, Bingles Paul, okay. Yeah. Yeah.

And he claimed self-proclaimed a great. trivia. I bet he is actually. Pat Kelsey dislocated his finger in the celebration of the game. I saw him in post game, had it all bandaged up. He said it like went to a 90 degree angle because he got it caught. He tried to give somebody a high five and he got it caught on a curtain. Yeah, his assistant coaches were chasing him, kind of doing that runaround thing like you're doing soccer or baseball where you're running from your guys and broke it running from his coaches. I would like he, you know, I hate complimenting them. But, you know, he would win. and jumped in the student section, it looked like quite the night.

No, I mean, listen, they should be. Yeah, they should be very happy like they should be. That's a huge win for them. I'm going to go right back to Louisville, Kentucky, but I want to give you, I'm going to throw you out the topic, all right, and we're going to discuss it tomorrow, but I want to give you a chance to ruminate on it. Okay.

I want to give you a chance to marinate, because, Ryan, I feel like your brain needs to marinate this. Here's the question. I just read an article about this. I think it's fascinating. all across the world there's debates happening and you need to tell me which side not today but tomorrow you think you should be on okay question is should people when they are born have a right to know who their biological parents are by meaning what i mean by that is should the government give them a right to do a dna test to find out if they're biological parents are are their actual parents. Okay?

So in this world of like 23 and me, although I don't even know if that thing exists, but those kinds of things, people are like doing the test, and then they realize this person, they thought there was their dad, their whole life, turns out they're not.

Maybe because the mom had another relationship or whatever. And like there was an article in the New York about how it's disrupting their lives, but some of them believe they should have a right to know it, et cetera. Do you think that there should be a right to know who your DNA? And then also think about how that would apply to sperm banks and things like that. You know, this hit home with me. This hits home with me when my three boys are all adopted. So I got a lot to think about it. So do they have a right to like petition to get the government to help them find out, you know,

and you could see the arguments on either side. So you marinate on that. Are you marinating? I probably marinated too much. Okay, well, now get back to the show. I don't want you to make you marinate off the air. Off the air, okay. All right, who's up next? Zach. Zach, go ahead, Zach.

Hey, guys, just wanted to make a quick comment. I think Otega has to adopt more of a kid Gilchrist type of mindset because his shot is just atrocious, right? Like, MKG had this massive motor and great just presence on the floor, but he also put his head down and just drove the ball and it created. so much offense. And I think Otega has to use that to his advantage because he can't shoot the ball, but he's got to be able to play

the defense and use his strength to his ability. Don't disagree with you. Appreciate the call. Jay Billis apparently said during the game that when he went through the NBA process, the scouts told Otega, you've got to get better shooting the three and actually suggested changing his form.

Does that in hindsight look like that might not have helped? Didn't Mark Pope say he doesn't change forms? So his Oway, I know O'A wants to show off he has a three, but if that's not part of Pope's plan. But it is a different form. I mean, I'd like maybe somebody could put back to back the shots from last year in this one, but it is a different form.

I don't even know if we can call it form. He and DeBate both. We'll call it very unconventional. Dude, I studied Diabate in warm-ups. His form is even worse than I realized. when he's not shooting in traffic, he's shooting from his nipple. With a hitch. Yeah.

Like he's bringing it down from his side and like taking it up to his nipple and then he's on the side and he's not even shooting. He's pushing it. It's like a push shot. It is potentially one of the weirdest forms I've ever seen. Now, sometimes in the course of play, he's trying to get it off quicker so he doesn't do it. But watch him. If you go to a game, watch him in warm-ups. He has this like, he reminds me of my grandfather's shoot.

Like my grandfutored, except my grandfather was sometimes granny shot. But he takes the ball and he takes it like in a loop and then takes it up to like his right nipple. Is he left-handed or right-handed? Left-handed. So I guess it would be his left nipple and then pushes it up in the air. It's a, and it goes way up in the air and comes down. It's a bizarre shot. Well, we made a big deal out of it.

But at the family day, everyone on the court was yelling for everybody to sag off and dare him to shoot. And he ended up making it and he started taunting them. but we saw what his own teammates and coaches to think of respecting him at the top of the key. Yeah, the coaches were yelling at Marino. Back off him, back off him, and he hit the shot. You know, when he came in from Alabama, I think he... Well, he shot like 43% from 3%.

He didn't take a lot of them, but still, it's a crazy shot. Maybe he's got to be wide open. Maybe so. Who's next? Elijah. Elijah. Go ahead, Elijah. Hey, how's it going, guys? Look, I'm from Lexington. Born and raised. I even went to Clay.

Go Devils. My thing is I'm just really disheartened after this loss because it kind of feels like Louisville is already a bigger city they have Churchill down they're kind of like our big brother and I was really hoping. They're not our big brother. First of all,

all right, so now we're doing what happened last night. Okay, last night, I got called in. Hang on, you hang on, hang on. Hang on. If you want to finish this conversation, you're going to stop talking for a second. Pardon me, pardon me, pardon me. So last night it got called in to the post. post-game show. First of all, he called me

Maddie Bangs to start. And I, that's what Louisville fans used to call me back in the day when my hair was down to my eyebrows. So I knew initially I was skeptical. And then he accidentally said, we talking about Louis. And then he still tried to say mispronouncing it. And then when he got to

Jalen Lowe, he called him Jolin Lou. And I was like, you are not a Kentucky fan, and I called him. You are given Louisville fan vibes. Nobody. No Kentucky fan. No Kentucky fan would call Louisville, no Kentucky fan would call the city of Louisville and Louisville Big Brother. No one would do that.

No, look, I grew up right by Veterans Park Elementary Brother. I'm a Caps fan. I'm just saying it's so disheartening when we lose like this because they have more popular. It's right. Can I be upset about that? You can be upset, but you can never say Louisville's our big brother. Do you understand that? Well, let me just ask one question.

It's kind of disheartening when they've won a national championship more recently. So you're a Louisville fan. I appreciate the call. You're a Louisville fan. The fact that you acknowledge their national championship. You called them Big Brother, and you acknowledge their vacated national championship. You are a Louisville fan, and I've caught you, and I'm now two for two on catching Louisville fans during the show. Don't think you can pull that stuff on me.

You can sniff them out. You got a fifth cent. You can sniff them out. I can smell Louisville fans and Republicans who are just trying to hurt me. I can smell them. The Republicans who are not, I'm fans with those people. But he grew up by Veterans Park. Well, if he grew up by, where's Veterans Park?

Oh, great disc golf over here. I highly recommend it. You can grow up in Lexington and be a Louisville fan. Mario Hiders him. I saw a guy walking down the streets of Lexington with a Louisville sweatshirt on the other day. I didn't know they existed. It is rare to see a Louisville sweatshirt in the city of Lexington. He also, Kentucky fans right now, obviously, we're very upset.

We're eating our crow. but we all know that the series still belongs to us. They have kids that have gone through school, maybe even have graduate degrees that didn't see a Louisville win. So in no scenario do we think they're a big brother. That hurt last night, and we have to listen to them for a little while. But that did not change the rivalry. What's the overall thing, 31, 14 or something like that now?

40 to 17. Yeah, I mean, but even since the restart, it's like 31, 14. Like, I don't want to hear, you know, they won. It's nice. As Druid pointed out, they'd only won two games since 2009 that count. So they won. Good for them. They should celebrate.

Somebody who was asking, I work with Louisville fans, what should have? You just got to eat it. You got to eat it. Like, that's the way it goes. But don't give me any big pronouncements about it. I feel bad about all those folks we were at our show yesterday at Beernos. They have to live with that now for the next couple days. Well, the next couple months, those folks that live in Louisville are our Kentucky fans.

That's all right. Think of all the years they live with dominating. We can handle a little dip. Yeah. We can handle a little dip. Court physical therapy. If your physical therapy, if your physical pain dips. I dip you, dip, we dip.

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Yeah. It's a magical fifth sense. You realize you already have five. Yeah, I think it's six cents because you have five. What is it? Seeing, tasting, smell, hearing, touch. And then the sixth would be. You said I only had five, so you're impressed I can smell.

I am very impressed. You can smell out of Henry Clay alumnus, Louisville fan. You did say you could sniff them out, and he said you have a fifth sense. That's true. Now, some people are making a point. First of all, one person says, Matt, I've gone to Henry Clay for high school. I know tons of people go to Henry Clay. Nobody calls it Clay.

He did not go to Henry Clay if he called it Clay. We would never do that. I wonder if he lives out in Veterans Park, that's not the Henry Clay district. That's what another person says. Matt, he says he lives in Veterans Park. Veterans Park is districted Tate's Creek, not Henry Clay. Told you. You don't fool me.

You know, Henry Clay's building a new school. They're going to tear that old one down. build a new one so the baseball team has to play it like Legends ballpark all year next year I don't know with us all by the way that's classic Ryan Lemon you are not like how Ryan Lemon that is he goes Henry Clay's building a new school think about all the things you could say about that Ryan goes

the baseball team's going to have to play at Legends yeah never have a whole thing like not the school not where it's going to be what it's going to look like you care that for one year the baseball team might have to play at Legends field yeah they even have a good baseball team oh yeah really good. Okay.

Yeah. No home game. What's your senior year? You don't have a home senior day? I would say playing at Legends Field would be pretty cool. That is pretty cool. I don't feel bad for it. Maybe even cooler than playing at the actual stadium.

Yeah. It might be cooler than playing at Clay. Filled. It's not even a stadium. It's just a filled. Yeah. Clay 5-9-2-80-20. Oh, I got to play my senior games at Slugger Field.

Oh, it's horrible. Oh, no. How unfair is that? Yeah. One person writes, Matt, it's the first time since Mark Pope's been here. I feel like he didn't have an answer. I think he'll get there. But I've also never heard him more despondent on the postgame show.

I don't know if you all heard the postgame show. Very unlike him, short answers, very short answers. Billy came on and said we have four segments left until the show. When he says four segments, I usually know that means 20 minutes, because three of the last segments are Pope, so I'm like 20 minutes. It ended up being like 12 minutes because Pope only talked for like two minutes each segment. I've never heard him be that short. It was surprising, which also kind of shows that I don't know if he was upset, sad, whatever,

but it was just a different thing for him. When he got here, I heard some buzz from BYU that you're going to like Pope he's great, but when they suffer a bad loss, he's like inconsolable and doesn't handle it well and doesn't have answers right away. I feel like we saw that at Old Miss last year, and then a little bit last night. I'm with you. I'm sitting there recording because I have to transcribe what he says. And that took me just a couple minutes to write that out because he didn't have a lot of words.

If you listen to my interrupted by Matt Jones podcast with Jeff Goodman, which is the latest episode. Drew and I'll be doing a news episode today. But our latest episode, I interview Jeff, and he talks about that. Jeff said, Mark's the nicest guy in the world, but you do not want to be around him after they lose. And Jeff, I think, knows Mark very well. That's when he threw out dumb effort a couple times. You could tell just I've never heard him talk like that. The tone and his voice and the words he was using was obviously he wanted to get that over as soon as possible and get the heck out of there.

That might be a weakness for him, but also shows how much he knows that Louisville game means and how bad he wants to win it, that he's just completely shocked and beside himself when it's over. He was mad the way they played. Yeah, who's up next? Jordan. Jordan. Jordan, go ahead, Jordan. All right, Matt.

I got a few things I just want to say quickly, and then I'll get off and let you guys go. But I'll take it away. In 99 collegiate basketball games, I shot five threes, three times. Last night, he shot six. He shot 16 percent, one for six. There was numerous NBA scouts in there over the summer. That's interesting. What a big scout tell him he needed to work on?

His shooting. He shot the ball. When he's not a shooter, he shot the ball last night, missed a lot of shots. at the team's experience that clearly looked like he was playing selfish basketball for his draft stop, which is a complete opposite of what Mark Prope preaches, which is selfless basketball play for the name on the front of the Jersey. And it was just going on the screen. That's an interesting point.

I mean, it's an interesting point about with the NBA scouts there. I mean, there were a lot of NBA scouts. I think a lot of people wanted to see Mikhail Brown, probably Malachi, you know, and I'm sure always part of that. And this was his chance. and maybe he felt like he needed to shoot more threes. That's an interesting stat. Play 100 college games.

You only shoot five threes three times. One of them was last night. I'd be interested to see how many times the teams won the games where he's done that because I just don't think, and I appreciate the call, I just don't think Drew that's his strength. I don't think that's what, that's not where his money will be made in my opinion. And we know when he went to get his feedback, they say you have to work on that, but this is our Kentucky basketball season, not your training camp.

So sure, we'd like for you to have a better shot, but that's not the priority. I mean, what happens if you play another game, Ryan, and it's the end of the game, and the smart thing to do is keep Diabate and Owey on the bench? I mean, I guess you can say you know it'll happen because they did it last night, so, I mean, you know. If you'd ask me that before the season started,

I said that will not happen. You have to have those two guys on the floor in a late game situation. I told you yoga girls got it figured out. She said it was his hair, his haircut. Well, he's not going to be able to grow those dreads back. this quickly. It's going to take a while. Maybe have a little baby dreads to start that. Well, you know, last year, there was nobody that Pope,

there was no one at the end of the game that Pope would not take out. If you think about it, even Jackson Robinson at the end of the game sometimes wouldn't play. Like, he would take guys out, so I think you'll do it again here. I mean, one of the good things about having Aberdeen is if you get more games where low at the ends take a bad shots, you'll just take him out. And you'll make Aberdeen the point guard. But I have to say, I didn't see Oway being. now. But it was the right call because

Chandler came in and hit like two threes immediately when he did that. I mean, I felt bad, but I was yelling at my TV, get him out of the game, your preseason player of the year. But we also know what he's capable of the Oklahoma games. You know, we all know the stats of his double-digit games last year. It's just getting him back

to that for him and whatever's going on with him that just had him so lethargic last night. Shannon, I did have one big fist pump. Oh, you did? Yeah, I mean, once they took that big lead in the first half, I was like, well, we're not going to win, so I'm not going to get my emotions. up. But there was a fistpile. I was, I paced in my house. So we cut it to four and then Jalen Lowe got that jump ball and the ref pointed our way and they went to timeout and I fist pump. You fist pump.

You wouldn't do that at the stadium though. You left too soon. You weren't there for the comeback. No, I didn't want to be. It's too nerve wracking. It's too nerve wracking. Like once they started going down, I'm in the Louisville parent section. With the fruze. With the Frue. The Fruees. The Fruees. The cruiser over there with their sourcrow, and I can't, you know, I can't, I can't focus, so I needed to go. Fruzer over there asking you where the podcast is, is their loyal listeners in Germany? Sprekenzi Deutsch, and I'm like, you know, ain't's by dry for your foof? And it was like, it was time for me to go. Who's next?

Let's go to Madison. Madison, 40 seconds. Go ahead. Oh, sorry. I have two things. One, I wanted to know if Ryan knew that former U.S. coach, uh, I was a, uh, former U.V. coach, uh, Marty Simmons is the head coach of Eastern Illinois. I did know that.

Oh, you did? Yeah. And then two, what was y'all's opinion of the crowd? Do you think it was the six player last night? Oh, for sure. Especially early, especially in the first half. Now, they got tense at the end. But in the first half, that place was loud.

I mean, it was, if you're talking road environments for a regular season game I've been to with Kentucky. I mean, wasn't Indiana. I've been to a couple of Auburn games that are pretty crazy, but it was probably next, to be honest with you. So we'll take a break. Be right back, KSR. T.J. Smith, personal injury attorney. Call T.J. He'll make them pay.

Now, more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones. I love this song, Shannon, but that commercial is going to start being a lot. Have they been planning a lot? I think they played it like college football Saturday. Yeah. And then last night. They're wearing it out for you.

Is it Starbucks? Is that what it is? Baleta. I don't know. My brain zones out. I do love this song. I mean, I really do. But I don't want this to become one of those things that, like, they play it so much.

I mean, this is not like a legendary commercial, like, for all y'all. Like, they got to be careful. Yeah. Unless you're sticking hearts, Billy. They're just plain wrong. I mean, they play it 50 times a night. And I've offered to redo it. And they're like, we're good.

Gets the people going. But, but, Shannon, this is a great song. What do you think happened to these guys? You think they still play it? I doubt it. I don't even know if there's still a band anymore. The proclamers, right?

The proclaimers. They're brothers. Yeah. Who doesn't like this song? This is a great guilty pleasure song. This would be a good song for us to sing on karaoke, Shannon, on our road trip. Let's do it. Isn't KSR doing karaoke?

Like tomorrow or something? We, KSR is doing karaoke here tomorrow. Yeah. KS. Yes, tomorrow night they'll have karaoke here so you could do it then. Proclaimers are still on tour. You can go see them over. I can't believe they're still on tour.

They've got to be like in their 70s, right? 60s? Maybe. I don't know. But you can see it over how you can. I mean they have any other songs but this? Well, they got other songs and nobody knows them, though. Because if you went to see the Proclaimers, you just be like, just play 500 miles.

So I can go. I'm just here for five minutes. Okay, here's a question. Let's say you're a band and you're the proclay. You have this song. Where do you play it on your set? Last song of the night. Do you do the last song?

Maybe we'll sit there the whole time waiting to hear this. I constantly tease them with the first few seconds throughout the night to let them know, I got it. But then I just keep pushing it off. Just a little, just a couple notes. Just give them a- Start with that don't, don't-dong, don't-dung. Don't. And then you're like, okay, I got a new one for you.

Just keep hanging on. I would, if you promised me that I could just hear that and leave, I'd go see them here. But I don't want to be there for anything but that. That's true. to get their tour dates so we can actually do this. I don't want to sit through the rest of their concert. Just play that one. I don't think they're in the states.

You know, Drew and I are going to be, Drew and I, Billy and Mario are staying Saturday night in Erie, Pennsylvania. Who up? Anybody knows what's going on in Erie Pennsylvania? Let me know. Who up, Erie? Well, AEW is what's going on. It's true. We may not be there for that yet, but we're going to be in Erie Pennsylvania.

Where were we in Pennsylvania where we watched a game at that place called the penalty locks? Scranton. Scranton. Great time. Scranton. That was an awesome night. I was betting on sports before we had draft kings. It was not a real sport.

It was a virtual thing thing. Dog racing, wasn't it? Yeah. Dog racing. 859-280-2287. Let's talk just one second about football. We are now projected by ESPN. Both of ESPN's bowl prognosticators have us going to the Liberty Bowl.

I'm not convinced they're going to win the football game against Louisville, so that gives us six wins, makes us bowl eligible. You got us winning? After last night, I am convinced our football team will not. not let this fan base down. They'll win that game at Louisville. Can I tell you what I did say to Vince Barrow yesterday? Yes. I mean, I was feeling a little chesty.

I just said to him, you know y'all are losing in a few weeks, don't you? And he was like, oh, but come on. I'm like, I mean, I'm just telling you, we're rolling. And I also said we would never lose to Cal. We're trending up. They're trending down. I didn't say that. But I was like, we'd never lose to Cal.

And he just looked at me. but you know on our home field that's right when's the last time they've won both it's like decades is it really well they didn't i mean they've only won the basketball game twice in recent history and they didn't win the football game that year so you'd have to go way back i would think when they beat us the bill a year they probably beat us in football that year because we had joker right there was that long stretch drew's right where whoever won the football game lost the basketball game a month later. It just happened. Oh, no, we got them in football three straight times

from 07 to 09, so it's not those years either. Might even have to go farther back. Yeah, maybe so. Might have been a while. You're right. Maybe we get even more confident in the Governor's Cup. Who's up next? Let's go to Landon. Landon. Go ahead, Landon.

Hey, Matt, I was at the game last night. Kind of hoarse from screaming from the upper bubble, but I just got two quick things. First off, Jay Lowe, and just about every game we play this year, is going to be the quickest player on the floor with the basketball on his hand, no doubt. Probably true. But he's got to learn to play off two feet rather than one feet,

because when he leaves his feet to make a pass in the air, it just makes me double-pake my breath. He twice, once in the first half and once in the second half, jumped up to make a pass and then didn't have anywhere to go with it and turned it over. He cannot do that. He jumps up and then, like, I think he decides he's going to make his decision in the air, You're right, he can't do that. Yeah, and then second thing, and lastly,

just on the second half, I think Otega O'A really shot us out of the game, and then we come out underneath the 12-minute media, and we go small, and Colin Chandler, like, shoots us back into the game. Totally agree. Right around the five-minute mark, right around the five-minute mark, Pope puts Otega in for Chandler, and next possession, wide-open corner three for Otega, and he bricks it. So, I mean, if that's Colin Chandler, I feel like we got it to, I think it had the four right then.

Yeah. And then Otega found out. And then Otega found out, and we kind of had the right line up again. I think, understandably, and I appreciate the call. It's kind of like you remember in 2015, we would talk about should Cal put the twins in at the end or Ulyson Booker? And sometimes people would argue Ulyson Booker, and you'd go, well, but the twins won all those games. Like, you've seen them do it at the end of games. Otega won I mean he was our clutch player at the end of the games last year but I do wonder Drew if last night

maybe it should have been Chandler the whole way down the stretch well we all know my thoughts on Chandler and as president of the fan club I have to throw out a stat he has taken 21 threes shooting 58% from three we keep saying someone has to step up a he should 58% from three wow and and that's not on a small sample size I mean he's taking a lot of shots and shooting 50% oh he's the first Kentucky player ever to make four threes in his first three games of a season. First 12 for 21. No one's ever done that before. So maybe he is the shooter.

We keep saying Williams or Noah, maybe it's just Chandler and he needs to play more. Maybe. It's the point where he has to be on the floor. Yeah. Do you have a guy on Shannon? I'm calling him right now. That means you forgot. No, I got it.

I got it. I'm calling. Never doubt Shannon. You said halfway through the segment. We still got time. Okay. All right. While you're doing that, let's take one more.

Okay, let's go to Pat. Pat, go ahead, Pat. I went to the UK, but live in Charleston, South Carolina. So I watched Pat Kelsey coach. Yes. He's a great coach. He's very good. He took them to the tournament for the first time ever, two times in a row.

So we're going to have to worry about U of L for a long time now. This isn't like it used to be. But simply, I didn't see my, I watched the whole entire game of my fiancé last, night. She knows nothing about sports. And she asked me two questions, and they're simple. She goes, you guys don't look like you know where you're going. I was

like, I think we didn't. And then she asked me, she's like, who's the brown guy? Why don't you guys have a player like him? Well, those are parents. That's a great question. Why don't you have someone as good as LeBron? That's a good question. We didn't, uh, listen,

he's great. I appreciate the call. He's the best Louisville player since Donovan Mitchell, and he might end up being a better college player than even Donovan Mitchell was. Donovan obviously became a great pro, but he's great. Mikhail Brown is, you know, Louisville got a star with him, no doubt. All right, we have on, joining us on the phone, Ryan. This is Gavin Colton. You may have heard me talk about the Irish announcer for UK soccer, who I really enjoyed listening to when UK played their soccer game the other day.

He's on. Gavin, how are you, sir? You're okay, Matt. How are you doing? I'm doing great. Now tell me, how does an Irishman end up calling UK soccer? Well, you know, when I was in grad school, a bit of coaching of the women for the women's soccer program with Dean Kerry. You know, we just always thought they could do with another voice on here.

So he just reached out and on I came. I mean, you just wrote them and said, hey, I can call these games? Yeah. Wow. It's that easy. I kind of love that. You know what? I'm listening to these games.

you need somebody who knows more about it? I'm going to write the Indiana Pacers as soon as we're done. That's great. How did you end up in Lexington? It came to Lexington for grad school. Originally came over to Northern Kentucky and went to play soccer there at NKU and moved to Kansas for a little bit and came to got a second master's at UK and now I'm working at PCTC here in town.

So explain to me you were in Ireland and you came to play soccer for Northern Kentucky. How does that happen? Yeah, I got a call from from coach at NKU said he'd been out to see one of my games You know, when I was like 17 I think the game had been abandoned after 20 minutes because of a brawl He seemed to love that Offer me a full ride

Moved over Wait a minute, hang on later Hang on just a guy The Northern Kentucky coach watched a game of yours For 20 minutes Then the game was abandoned for a brawl And he offered you a scholarship That's exactly

exactly how it went. Wow. I love this story. College soccer recruiting is a different animal, isn't it? So was that a big change of like change of pace in life? You just all of a sudden show up at NKU? Yeah, totally different. I think I'd watch just the right amount of American pie films.

I think I was watching Blue Mountain State at the time. And so, you know, going to college in America, sounded very good to me. You know, Gavin, you and I are going to have to talk longer. Like, we're going to have you back on. Do we want to go to Buffalo this weekend? Yeah, let me ask you men's soccer team real quick. Are they, I haven't followed it enough, but they're good. They're going to make the tournament, right?

Yes, yeah. All things going well, they'll be hitting the tournament. All right, so they play. They play the night in the semifinals. That's in Lexington, correct? Yeah, 7 o'clock. And we play, is it Central Florida? Yeah, UCF.

All right, so tell me, preview that game for us really quickly. The game is on at 7. On SEC Plus, you can watch it on the computer. Should Kentucky be the favorite? Yeah, they beat them earlier this season. In a relatively tight game, beat them 3-2 at the bell. You know, Kentucky all around is just really strong team, have lots of pieces all over the park.

You know, unfortunately, the big trouble for Kentucky is going to be three players for UCF. And that's three French guys. It's El Dor and Gobu, and it's a guy of top name William Rico who just have a crazy flare. And if Kentucky can stop them, they'll create chances. What they can't do is what they did their last weekend against Coastal,

which is sit back, enjoy possession, not really create any chances themselves and say, well, we're at home. It feels a little bit easy to keep the ball and not really feel like you're going after the game. The three Frenchmen. Got to watch out for the three Frenchmen, Drew, for Central Floor. All right, so games at 7 o'clock tonight. Gavin, I want you to come back with me to preview the NCAA tournament once the brackets come out And I also got to learn more about your experience at Northern, all right?

And that sounds good. And a shout out for the women's team to play on Saturday against the Little Sister Louisville. Hopefully they don't get a W there. They do play against the Little Sister Louisville. That's there, though, isn't it? Yeah. All right. Do you call the women's games, too?

No, no, that's Gratcham Mills, former player who I coach as well, who's maybe the best left foot in Lexman. the best left foot in Lexington well Gavin thank you for taking the time we'll talk to you very soon great thanks fellas appreciate it like that guy love that guy how'd we not know that guy

I'm changing the Colin Chandler fanckel up to the Gavin fan I want him to go on our road trip Is that how college soccer is that how the recruiting goes you see a fight and go I want that guy to come play here I want the guy to the middle of that brawl who's fighting with a NNKU jersey on one hand I want you to just think you live in Ireland you get a scholarship offer from Kentucky and you just get on a plane and go to college there.

Well, he watched the American Pie movies first, and then he got on the plane. I don't know what it's like at Northern Kentucky, but I feel like it's not like American Pie. I think it's a little different. Wow. We need more of him. We need more of him. I can't believe he's been over here this whole time. And we didn't even know.

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Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio. Gavin's a hit. People saying Gavin is the new Max. He is the new Max. Very funny. Enjoyed that visit right there. Yeah. We're going to have to bring him in here one day. I like how he stayed. Came all the way over here. Just stays. And I'm going to tune in to hear more of them on the game. And I love, do you think we can write in and ask to be the announcer for sports?

I love that. Just sends a note to Mitch Barnhart, hey, I can do the men's soccer broadcast for you. Done. All right, so Draft Kings, we'll make our Draft Kings pick of the night. You go to Draft Kings, use my promo code KSR. Bet five, you can win up to $200 in bonus pets and get three months of NFL league pass. Use the code KSR. It is Draft Kings.

sitting here not a lot of choices so you know what I'm going to take? What's that? I'm going to take the game from the BBN United Classic. Nichols plays Valpo. It's a pick-em. We've scotted both of them. We've played them both.

Nichols and Valpo pick them. Who you got, Drew? I am going to take... Game is at Valpo, by the way. Yeah, I'm going to take Valpo. Nichols went and lost to Eastern Illinois. Boy, they are the winless team in the BB and United Tip-Off classics. So I will say Valpo gives them a third loss in the event.

Yeah, Valpo wins this consolation game over Nichols by 10. Shannon. Yeah, give me Valpo. I can't get behind Nichols. They're terrible. Don't, Nichols is going to turn into dimes tonight. They're going to go win a true road game in Valpo. It is time for Nichols is the better team.

They bring it. Valpo is not going to be able to handle their athleticism. give me Nichols. What in the name of Homer Drew are you talking about? Valpole's going to win tonight. All right. Who's up next? Let's go to Grayson.

Grayson. Go ahead, Grayson. Hey, Matt. First time, a long time. Who was? I just got two quick things. One, and this is a complaint going back even to last season. It feels like Mark Pope struggles to find the five that are going to be the most effective at any point during the game.

When he finally does, he rarely keeps them on the floor. It's like first dead. ball first TV timeout that they come up to yank somebody and it really seems like that's something that he's not going to change that seems something analytical that he's going to stick by and i think it's going to be a problem going forward like give all of malacow marina or give all of brandon garris's minute to malacow marano at this point and then number two i think last night is like the official end of the mark pope sent from god can do no wrong honeymoon Like at this point, prove it.

I'm glad you brought that up, and we may talk more about this tomorrow. I think last night, Ryan, was the first time Mark Pope. That was like a welcome to now you're actually the honeymoon phase is over, part of the Mark Pope experience. I mean, I still love the guy. I still like it's, but I think for the first time you start to hear people go, okay, wait a minute, questioning things, right? Which is okay.

That's going to happen. But it feels like to me last night was the night that the honeymoon kind of ended. Do you agree? And now the true marriage starts. I feel the same way. And, you know, he told you when he struggles, he wants you to be, he wants you to criticize him. He deserves me criticized. He was, like you even said, kind of out-coached last night by a guy from our rival school.

So there's like there's, like, that marriage's a little criticism. Do you think this is the start of now actual like you're living with somebody? It's not just honeymoon? Yeah, not just because last night's results or anything. I just think that's the case. It's year two. I mean, the press conference and all that last April was fun, beating Duke. It was all a great year one.

But now I think people are going to be great, him a lot harder. And I think the substitution patterns and rotations is a legitimate concern. Like he pulled Jasper against Valpo after he had a great run last night, some questionable stuff. And that existed last season, too. That was my biggest criticism of him last year was minutes. I didn't understand why we would play so many minutes. We'd always take the starters out and, get the, again, now he found the group at the end, but it did, and he went with him.

Just took forever to get there. It just took us forever to get there. And by that point, we were down 20, kind of when we got to the group, we're going to have to do that, I think, quicker. But I do think that's probably a conversation we'll have no more tomorrow. I do think the honeymoon kind of ended last night. All right, I'm hosting trivia tonight, 7 o'clock. Ryan's team is going to be here along with Paul. We'll be back at this bar tomorrow for the show.

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