KSR - 2025-11-25- KSR - Hour 2

Episode Date: November 25, 2025

Matt, Ryan, Drew, and Shannon talk Mark Pope's call-in show news, wedding rings, and birth certificates.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome to Hour 2 of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones. Welcome back. Hour number two, Tatee Sports Radio, 859-280, 2287. So apparently the players air tournament chin and the maximum you can win by is 20. Okay, yeah. So the maximum you can win by is 20? So what do they do? Well, so for that, like, who gets to go to the finals?

So Tennessee won by 25, Michigan won by 40, but it only counts as 20. Oh. So Michigan and Tennessee are now tied with 20-point wins. Yeah. Gonzaga won by 10. So if they both were to win, then that's a good sign. But, like, say, Gonzaga, that won by 10, instead of being 30 points behind Michigan, there are only 10 points behind Michigan.

Does that make sense? Yeah. Gonzaga won by 10. Does that mean they covered? They did. They did. You got one right. Are you excited about that?

He got one right. Took him an hour to get his victory lap. Yeah, he's a little, but you were a little behind on your victory lap there, but you did get it. So congratulations. I just think they're, like I said, the best team in the country, and I do not want to play them. Kansas won by 10 as well, so they're right there. Yeah, I would be frustrated, Drew, if I was in this tournament, we won both games, but we didn't win by enough. I'd be like, that's a weird tournament.

I don't like that. I actually hate this format because I watched Iowa State St. John's, and it was a great game. I mean, they're back and forth. It's close most of the game. Iowa State wins by one, but they're going to get punished for a good win that came down to the wire because they didn't win by 10. I wish it should be a bracket format.

And Tennessee got to play Rutgers. You know, Rutgers stinks. So it is a little unfair. But, I mean, ultimately, they're just doing this to play good teams anyway. So, all right, I have to say something. We've yet to find, Ryan, this super fan. Nobody contacted you yet. No one has contacted.

We had over a thousand unique phone numbers send a text yesterday, which is an amazing amount of people to text the text machine and actually have substance. And not one person knows this guy. Wow. So who is he? I have pictures of people who've taken pictures with him at games, like other UK games. but Drew, no one knows who he is. At least hasn't told me yet.

I'm surprised because I like you, and on Bond that Bridge on Facebook, there's multiple pictures of people with him, but it's like he's just someone in passing, see a games, get a quick photo, but no one actually knows him. Yeah, by the way, for newer listeners, there's a Facebook page,

Bond that bit. Whoa. It's a different page. Bond. That Bridge. Okay, I'm thrown off. The Facebook page is called Bond That Bridge. And it's like for fans of KSR.

People, it's a great, great group of fans there. It's kind of a good, hardcore KSR fan base. It's got about 16 to 17,000 people on it. You should go join it. But there is a post there about people who have met him. But no one has sent me a name or a place he's from. Shannon, that really surprises me. I mean, over the years, I've been able to get senators' phone numbers.

How do we not know who this guy is? Is this the one guy that's going to be so elusive? We never find him, never see him. I mean, he's going to be in another game. But it seems like he's at every game. Okay, so then. But nobody knows who he is. Well, then one of us who's there at the game.

I don't want to wait a year. Tap him on his spike shoulder pads and say, hey, who are you? But I don't want to wait a year. I'd like, I was, you know, what? level game. I mean, it seems like he probably will. He went to Nashville. But do you think he's like just a regular guy that doesn't want people to know his

thing? Know that he puts on face pain as a 50-year-old man? But I mean, it's clearly still him. Someone recognizes him, Ron. They have to. You know, I kind of threw this out there, but I wonder if it is a player's dad that really not associated with the fan. He just comes on game day, doesn't associate with us during the week.

Couldn't be Andy Bashir. And that's his What's more embarrassing? Your dad dresses like that guy or Diego Pavia's mom? Oh, Diego Pavia's mom. It's more embarrassing than that guy with a blue wig and face paint? He's just a hardcore fan. I think he's awesome.

I think Pavia's mom's awesome. Bound chica bough, bough. I've had multiple requests for Ryan to stop. The Bound chica pound pound mommy. What do we do, Drew? I mean, like, you and I've said this to him 100 times. Is it just like ingrained in his souls? There's just not going to be anything we can do.

I don't know if you can see him on the camera right now, but the grin he has on his face tells me this is going nowhere. Like, I think he has one dialed up that he wants to do again at this moment. And I feel partially guilty being the chaperone these last two days. Well, he doesn't do it as much in front of me because I give him the death stare. Yeah. But when it's you and Mario, he doesn't feel, he doesn't feel. he doesn't feel inhibited.

I got to do better. You do it. You do have to do partially on me. Which gets me, okay, and he has the blue wedding ring, right? Which gets me to a wedding ring question. This is for married people or people who have been married. So, Shannon, you're out.

Drew and Ryan. So I guess our vice president, J.D. Vance, what his wife's name is, what's her name? Is it? Mrs. Vance? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know her first name. But she was seen in public.

She was giving a speech or something. She didn't have her wedding ring on, okay? And a lot of people are like, oh, what's going on? She doesn't have her wedding ring on. They released a statement yesterday that said something to the effect of, oftentimes she gets busy and she's washing dishes or something, and maybe she doesn't put the wedding ring on, but she and the vice president still love each other and her together.

So I have a question about wedding rings. I have always, having never been married, I don't know, but I've always kind of thought, isn't the thing like you never take it off, like ever? Or when are you allowed to take it off? Like when is it okay to take it off? I mean, she gave a public speech, so that's a little strange that she didn't. But the premise was she had taken it off for something else and just forgot to put it back on. Is that something that happens like in wedding ring world, are you allowed to take it off?

You two that are married. What's the rule? Drew is the only one currently married. I'll let him take the floor. Okay, well, I mean, Ryan, you were married. But you, so you've been through this with you multiple times. So, like, you have experience. What's the rule?

I always felt like you never took it off, ever. No matter what. No matter what. Do you shower in it? I did. I showered. I did. The only time I ever took it off, then both my marriages is when I was playing softball.

I would take it off during the softball. And that was it. What if you were swimming? I swam in it. So, like, if you went in the ocean, you'd wear it. Oh, yeah, because usually most of us gain a little weight as we get older, and that ring does not even budge. It ain't coming off anytime soon.

So you're doing, you only, why softball? It bothered me. Oh, it hurt his swing, Shannon, so that was when he could take it off. Yeah. When he's hit foul balls off me, he would take it off. Okay. The co-eds all thought he was single, though, at the softball game. So you were like, never take it.

All right, what about you, Drew? This feels like a setup because I'm currently not wearing mine. So thank you for that. Oh, I didn't know that. Sorry. I take mine off a lot, though. Like literally when I left the house this morning and I was like, whoop, left that at home. Oh, well.

So do you take it off like every night? Not every night, but frequently at night to sleep. Is it that? Sometimes when I'm just working, I'll put it on the desk next to my keyboard. Does it like, does it constrict you? Like, why do you take it off? Mine's actually a little too big. So I don't swim in mine.

It would probably fall off. I've actually been standing up with my arms by my side with Abby next to me and my ring has fallen off and she heard it bounce. So mine's a little too big. I take it off a lot. Now I usually, I try to wear it when I'm out, but like right now. But you might so clearly like. Love you, Abby. Sorry about this.

But right now I'm currently not wearing it. But my thought was I'm going to go see Ryan in the studio. I had no idea. No, but it's a good question because I do take mine off a lot. They've got those rubber ones now where you can wear them and they're kind of snug. Rubber ones? Yeah, they're like rubber. What do you get those?

You have a rubber? Who gets a rubber wedding ring? Yeah, that way you wear like when you're swimming or... You get a rubber ring. I have a silicone ring. Silicon, okay. So what's the point of those? So you can, like, you don't want to wear your wedding ring if you're swimming or golfing or whatever.

You can wear that rubber one. For the reason I mentioned that mine falls off so much, like vacation, I'll wear a cheap one. But is the point of wearing a cheap one to be like, I'm taken and I don't want to use my good one? what's the point of that? Well, for me, it's because mine will literally fall off and I'll lose it. And I don't want to go on vacation and lose an expensive ring. But I have a silico and it's like... You want also to show a sign.

I'm committed to my wife and I'm going to tell everybody who looks at me, I am taking. Okay. Now, is it different? Like, imagine Ryan walking down the street without a wedding ring. He's going to get stopped every couple of stuff. That's true. I mean, women are going to be coming all over the place. So let's do women just a second.

Are the rules different? for them because their wing might be very expensive. Do they take it off? I know it used to be, like it's practiced for some women to do it when they are doing the dishes because the old stores were to go down, they slip off and go down the drain. And you got to call the plumber to come to get out. We don't have dishwashers in the year of 2025. Yeah, I have to say, I don't know if the vice president's wife is hand washing the dishes

at the vice president's ditch. But even like just washing your hands, a lot of people take it off over a sink. Okay. If you got a ring with some value, you're going to be very careful. careful of her stuff. But would you say women wear it more or less? I would guess more. Also, theirs is always, or typically a little more to show off. Yeah. Like they actually have a nice piece of jewelry.

I mean, not that mine's bad, but I'll value hers is much more. If you, and this is hard to ask Shannon with Drew having not worn his ring today. So let's let's leave Drew out of all days. Thanks for calling me out. This is first day in months that I've done this. Let's leave Drew out of the of the conversation. Ryan, is it like considered a symbol of something bad if you do not wear your ring? Like if you were to go out on a Friday night and not wear your ring, do wives or husbands generally get upset about that?

Yes, definitely. Yeah. Is that what something people would be mad about? Yes, no doubt. If I go out with the fellas and I, oh, oops, my wedding ring, I left it at home. Yeah, that's not a good sign. That's my wife is not going to be happy about that. that well it's interesting because i had never really considered it till till this whole thing i don't

like wearing rings or jewelry shannon so it's yet another reason to not get married i don't know if i can get married i don't like wedding cake yeah okay so that's part of it i don't like dressing up that's part of it just when we get married in a hoodie i mean you could do that at your wedding no i mean i would i do it and then i but the idea of having a ring on all the time i don't like rings and I don't really like accessories. Sounds like you don't like marriage. Well, I mean, there's a reason why I'm still. I take mine off a lot at home. Mine comes off, especially if I'm at my desk typing, it will just sit there right next to my mouse. All right. Well, who's up next? Let's go to Wilson. Wilson, go ahead, Wilson. Hey, man, follow up from a conversation yesterday and a group that I think

has went unscathed and without criticism through this whole conversation we've had the last of years, and that's the administration at the University of Kentucky. They're the board in this scenario that's responsible for managing Mitch Barnhart, the AD, the CEO, and outside looking in, I can't tell that they've done anything. You've got Mitch that's failed to adopt or adapt to any of these emerging business trends. The product on the field is bad. Everything around the product on the field is bad. Game day atmosphere like Drew was talking about earlier.

And they seem to be negligent in their duty in managing him. Well, but this is why I think it's so important that when a school hires a board of trustees, that they don't just hire like random people, right? Now, this is something that they're, in theory, they did with this Champions Blue thing is, let's get business people to run our athletic department. I like that in theory. We'll see how it works in practice. But, you know, so, but when the board of trustees, they tend to be political appointees of the governor.

which often means just that you were a political, you know, donor or whatever, the governor. And I don't think that's a good system. I don't care who the governor is. I just don't think that's a good system. So I kind of agree with you. There needs to be more oversight because somebody should have looked at this contract, especially the 60-day provisioning gone, why are we doing this? Yeah.

And, Matt, look, to my opinion, it's more important to get the AD part fixed now because two years from now we can have a new AD that starts fixing this stuff around the football program. Okay, whether it be game day atmosphere, NIL or whatever, and then we're even more attractive to a prospective coach, or we can just be status quo for the next two years. I think that's a fair point. That's a completely fair point. That's a completely fair point. And there are parts of it, and I appreciate the call, there are parts of it that are easily fixable.

The relation to fans in the game day atmosphere, that is fixable. And the fact that they haven't done it for years, when it's been a problem for years, has showcased that they don't get it. They don't understand. They don't. And I believe that the reason they don't is because that athletic department has no connection to the fan base. They do not understand them. Mitch doesn't deal with them.

And they are in an old era. You know, a year ago, I've told this story. they escorted Mario out of a media thing because he wasn't like real media or something because he was a social media person. And the fact that in 2000 at the time 24, they didn't think social media people were real media people showcases they have no idea what the world is like.

Right? Now, I yelled and got them back in, but the fact that even happened is an example. example of how far behind they are on even knowing what motivates people anymore. I mean, I remember when they escorted Mario out, they were like, you know, this is for real media. I'm like, Mario has only worked with us for two months. He already has more followers than almost all the other media. And you're saying, like, the fact that you don't understand that that person matters is part of the problem.

And that's what frustrates me. It's a joke around the media. I always say, man. I wish I worked for a local newspaper. My radio show and my website I do aren't big enough. I need the local radio. I mean, they still, listen. I'm not wanting.

It is hilarious to me, though, when people are like, you're taking up for your friends. We get treated worse than media that has 150th the listeners and views we do. It's ridiculous. But it's because they have no idea what moves a fan base. They still are operating at a time when you work at a newspaper. I'm not trying to be rude because I like these people at the news. paper, but the amount of people that read the Herald leader is not as, it's like one 20th as much

as who read one Shannon the dude tweet. And it's crazy the way that they don't understand that. It is crazy that we went to a Buffalo Bills game and they invited us on the field and let us do whatever we wanted, and I can't do it at a Kentucky game. and then you wonder why I don't come out and promote whatever it is you want because you all don't know how to treat it and you don't understand what the fans want. So now that's my Frank Franklin bill.

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I'm not sure they're the greatest wedding ring etiquette panel why so they yeah I mean they're too my wife just texted me in support she said it happens Yeah, and I've been married twice, so I'm an expert. One person writes, Matt, some people who work in factories don't wear their rings because gold can attract electricity. Yeah, if you work in heavy machinery, I can completely understand you taking it off before you going to work.

Yeah, some person says, I worked around machines and I've seen several fingers lost because of wedding bands. Yeah, I can get that. But you're going out your fellows for drinks after work, though. You better put that thing back on. One guy says, Matt, I've been married 46 years. I have 11 wedding bands ranging from a $20 silicone band to a $4,500 diamond band. Shannon, he like treats it as fashion. I mean, it feels like one ring would be plenty.

One ring to rule them all. Yeah. I don't know why you need 11. I think everyone that's writing, I get that maybe I misspoke on saying what happens when Ryan walks down the street. We'll just let that go. That wasn't my best, just entire segment for verbal slippage, but that's the way it happens. One person writes, Matt, I remember you telling the story about Mario.

You were very upset, and then you didn't bring it up again. I'm glad you just did. I was very upset. I'm still very upset about it. But, you know, we got it worked out the next day, and I moved on. But it's not even about, I mean, it's a little bit about Mario, because he had just started, and they embarrassed him in front of an arena full of people, which also made me mad.

But it's just the principle of the thing about not understanding what moves your people. You know, if you ran an institution, athletics is a business. It's also PR. And they are terrible at PR, especially in football. Yes, especially in football. In basketball, they've gotten much better.

The Pope people have recognized it and have made that a priority. And it is better. I still don't think of where it needs to be, but it's much better. But in football, they are playing in a different era. I mean, literally, they're barely gotten to the blog era. Forget about the social media era. And, you know, that, and then you wonder why things are not the way you want.

They had the view over there. Well, if we win, none of this is going to matter. Well, they may go to a bowl, Shannon, and it still matters. They still haven't necessarily won the fans over. Not exactly. Not exactly. Who's next? Let's go to Jacob.

Jacob. Go ahead, Jacob. Hey, Matt. Comment and then a question. I think that we're definitely going to see another year of Mark Stoops. So I'm kind of embracing that. And I think that two things, you know, need to have. happen and you pit them both, but two things need to happen moving forward, one of which is they need a complete overhaul of fan relations and the end game experience.

They need to hire somebody. They do. They need to hire somebody. And I've been told, by the way, I have been told, I was told this a few weeks ago, JMI has a guy from, like, San Diego, who was a big part of making the Padres' end game experience. I'm told that's really good. I haven't been. That they are, that they have a person to try to do that next year. I hope that's true. I haven't heard any more about it, but that would be a positive. Yeah, yeah. And also the whole, you know, just fan relations,

tailgating, all that stuff that we've talked about before, you know, they just need, they need somebody that's going to, they're going to improve that. And then also, I think that they need to, to really look at the staff around Mark. If he's going to stay, and I'm fond of him staying, then they really need to look at the staff and really take a deep inventory of who's valuable. I think that really, to me, the only one that is like definitely keep is Brad White.

And the rest of them, I think we need to have a conversation and figure out if they have the right fit for us moving forward. I think these are all good points, and I appreciate the call. is hard specifically for Ryan, Drew, me. We've been dealing with these people, both in the media department and in the football department and in the athletics department for 20 years. But part of the problem, Drew, is that we've been dealing with the same people for 20 years.

And there's no new blood, right? I always joke that if I got in a time machine and went back to 2005 and went to a game, everything would be right. It's the same thing. Everybody, the same, it's just, it's the same thing. And even things like picking players. Eddie Grant, I like, but I mean, what training does Eddie Grant have in being a football GM?

But he just has the job, right? I don't know how he got it. Like, everyone around Mark is the same. It's just you have, you cannot be stale and succeed. There came a point where I, like a year. ago, a year and a half ago was like, okay, KSR's got to embrace the new area. I didn't know Mario, I hired him. They need like 15 people in jobs like that at all levels.

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They sang this after they were divorced. You know that? No. The song about the wedding rings, I think they recorded it after they were divorced. Because I guess they got divorced and then they still kind of, you know, they'd have reunion hookups and stuff. Yeah. Is that what they're calling it these days? I think, well, I mean, I think everybody's been through that at some point in their life, you know. Sometimes the flame still sparks Shannon. Yeah. And I think that's, but they sang this then. Can you think you could, like, it's funny bands that perform. with their at like Fleetwood Mac.

Yeah, that's a good one. The people who, you know, do all that. Gwen Stefani and no doubt. Can I ask you a question, Shannon? I didn't really understand this. When the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame happened, I was reading about the white stripes. So I didn't really, like, I wasn't following that kind of music when the white stripes were really popular. And I always had the understanding that they were brother and sister.

No, they told everybody that so that people would stop asking if they were. But they were actually a couple. Yes, and then they got divorced and still played. Okay, so that's what I'm saying. So when did people find out they weren't brother and sister? They kept that secret up until like just maybe five years ago, six years ago, something like that. Did people suspect they were married or did we all? Because I always just, I mean, again, I didn't follow them, but I always just assumed they were brother and sister.

Well, there was always, you know, are they brother and sister or are they married? And eventually they just. Why did people think they were married? Like, I would never assume two people who said they were. were brother and sister were married? What made people suspect they were married? Well, they didn't know at first. So after they said their brother and sister, that's why they said that.

Then after that, they kind of just let it go, right? They just assumed, okay, they say their brother and sister, their brother and sister. But it turns out they were actually married. Is that not really strange? Did people know their last name were both Jack and Meg White? I mean, that's something I could think of is that... Yeah. Well, but if she wasn't married and they were brother and sister, they would have the same

last name. Right. but I am I does no one think that's weird it is we know 15 years say you were brother and sister and then you were at why didn't they just say they were married

I guess that when they got divorced they didn't want that to be a thing so they just said were already divorced yeah I'm not sure what year they got divorced but at some point they got divorced and I think they just wanted to try to cover it up and just say their brother and sister

but I thought they came out of the gate saying they were brother and sister did they not maybe so I don't know the timeline divorced very early in their, like before they blew up. But then they kept going? So they were kind of stuck with it. Okay.

So then they kept going even after they had divorced. Well, imagine like, you know, your entire career is attached to this person that you just got divorced with. That's amazing, though. They got divorced in 2000. And I mean, they had several years after that. So that's amazing that they played all of those years together divorced. Mm-hmm.

And were a band traveling the world and seemed to like each. Like, that's amazing that they could do that, you know? Probably had separate tour buses. I would assume so. I'd probably, like, meeting significant others along the way. Right. Yeah. That had to be awkward.

Yeah. And the fact they were able to do that is kind of unbelievable, if you think about it. Yep. But that money talks. Well, hold on. I have a new detail that makes it a little weirder. Okay. He remarried, and Meg was the maid of honor at the wedding.

what do you do marry your sister i don't know how people do that i really don't i mean i give like i have really good relationships like i i've had like four you know four or five serious relationship and i have really good relationships with all of those people but that's another thing though to have them be the maid of honor in your way you know it's one thing to get along yeah they have to work with them every day that's amazing that really is That really is amazing. 859-2-80-2-807. One person says, Matt, everything you said,

wouldn't that be more successful if you didn't say it on radio and you said it to them privately at JMI and UK? Well, I think, Ryan, you can agree. I've said it many, many, many times privately. Many, many times. I've given them this advice. It's in one ear out the other for all those people. The UK administration, when it comes to football,

has just, for lack of a better word, fumbled it so many times They took away some of their tailgating area. They made them give up some of their seats. They discontinued the women's clinic. They don't do the fraction of the fan day, what it should be, the spring game this past year. I mean, they should be building this relationship with the fan base. Instead, they can continue to try to tear it apart.

Think about what the basketball team did this year where they just threw together that fan thing on the day of the Big Blue Madness. Yeah. Yeah. And that will be better in the future. But the mere fact that they tried to do it, Drew, is an example of how the basketball team. gets it more than the football team.

Yeah, Pope, Pope can't even talk. Pope has injected some life and some PR and all of this. I know we made a big deal out of the family day, but there's been so many fan events. You know, before that it had died. Both sports were pretty bad until Pope got here, and he's been very intentional of trying to bring everyone in, and that's why everyone likes him so much

and is kind of forgiving when he's taking some bad losses. And shout out to like women's basketball and volleyball, they actually have done that stuff very well. Remember, volleyball watch party tonight at 7 at KSbar. Tomorrow we're in Columbia. What is it? Don Franklin and Columbia. John Franklin and Columbia.

Yep. It sure is. Before I go, the phones, Shannon, this is a day I really like. You know what happened today that I care about, and I know the three of you probably don't, and almost no one listening does, but I do. What's up? The New York Times released their 100 best books of 2025. Oh, yeah.

This becomes basically my, the way I pick my reading list for 2026. Big day for you. It is. Nerd Fest. I'm trying to do a, I tried to do a book a week for this year. We talked about that. Yep. And I'm behind, but I'm scrambling to the finish.

I have 14 more, and I'm about done with four, because I'm reading four at once. So I have to read 10 in December, Ryan. I don't know if I'm going to be able to do it, but we're trying to sprint to the finish line. Well, on our trip, you can let one of us drive. Well, you can read in the back seat. I can read in a car. I read before we go to bed. But 10 in December, and then I will have accomplished my goal, which would make me very happy.

What's next? Sebastian. Sebastian. Go ahead, Sebastian. Yeah, I was going to see if you guys could help me clear up a little personal mystery I've had here for about a decade. So I was born in Fayette County. I'm right around Drew's age. And I lost my paper birth certificate.

a long time ago. But what I do have is something that looks like a credit card. And it says birth certificate on it and has all my birth certificate information. But when I took it

to the DMV in Louisville, they looked at it like it was an alien artifact and would not let me get the real ID with it. And I've never talked to anybody else that has one of these.

I'm just curious, have you all ever seen that? I've not. So it's like a credit card birth certificate? Yeah. Do you know where you got it? I figured it would be better

than the paper version. Do you know where you got it? Fayette County. But like, where in Fayette County? Well, no, I mean, it just says Fayette County on it. It was a, you know, I understand, but like it had to have come from somewhere. I mean, did you get it at like a gas station? Like, where did you get it?

Oh, your mother gave it to you. No, no, my mother had it. Where did she get it to me? They gave it to it. Well, she just said she got it at birth. So I don't know. She had like a doubt. It was part.

It was an immaculate conception. No, it was, so it was like by the hospital? Is that way? The hospital gave it to her? Well, she, I can't really ask her that now. But like, so, yeah, it was with all my baby stuff. Okay. I'm assuming it probably was mailed to her because I don't think the hospital would have a 3D printing machine or whatever it takes to make those cards.

How old are you? Do you mind me asking? How old are you? No, yeah, 41. 41. All right. So the easiest way to answer that. I've never heard of that.

but the easiest way to answer that is to throw that to the general public and somebody will maybe have done it. So I'll ask if anybody else has a credit card size birth certificate, what is that? You're just wanting to know what it is and how you may have gotten it, right? Yeah, yeah, because I would figure that a DMV in Louisville, even though it was from Lexington, would have seen it before. Yeah, well, we'll see. I appreciate the call. I mean, maybe your mom had it made it like a gas station, Shannon. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I had the idea that it just came out with the baby. It just fell out. Drew, have you ever heard of one of those? Credit card birth certificate? No, I'm trying to picture it. Does he mean it was the size of a credit card

or it actually had like a magnetic thing he could swipe? Does it have numbers? Yeah, I mean, I'm looking at my birth certificate. It's kind of amazing. It still exists. Like, it's a piece of paper. It's wrinkled. It has the date it was filed.

Has the state registrar at the time. But I didn't get a credit card. I didn't get like a credit card. So maybe somebody will know. That has to be like a memento or token that the hospital did is like a gift or some sort of the mom. Oh, you think so? That may be. Yeah, that might be right.

Who's next? Matt. Matt. Matt. Matt. Matt. Hey, guys. Me and my beautiful wife are on her way to do yoghans in out since I can't meditate my garden.

But any hoot, I got a couple of things to say. Me and my wife have decided you would be the perfect. next AD for the University of Kentucky. You know the NIL. Oscar Combs put a poll up about that and said who would be the best for this. And I came behind Donald Trump, which hurt my feeling, Janet. I have to say, I mean, whether you like Donald Trump or not, I think I would do better with UK athletics.

But nevertheless, go ahead, Matt. Well, I mean, you know the fans, you know, NIL, you know the law, you've got connections, you would be perfect. But the second thing is I want to say happy Thanksgiving to everybody and make good decisions. And shout out to Donovan. God bless you, Donovan. Kentucky Skin Cancer Center just sent us their new travel skin care set. I have it in my car right now.

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Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back. All right. Asking you shall receive. He asked about the credit card or the credit card birth certificate. Apparently, Ryan, for 14 years in the 80s and early 90s, you had the option when you were born in Kentucky to also for $3 more. Get a plastic credit card size birth certificate you could carry in your wallet. It does not count as an official document, but it was issued by the state, and then they stopped doing it in the mid-90s.

Well, there you go. There's the answer to that guy's question right there. My mom chombed in on that, too. She remembers them offering it almost like a little souvenir gift shop. It was like you could get it with it for a few extra dollars. A lot of people listening to have it. So there you go, Shannon. We learned something new every single day.

I wonder why they stopped doing it. I don't know. I mean, you know, you would think you would continue to do that. Yeah, maybe. It costs too much to make. Maybe because you couldn't use it. I don't know. I have a story I want to tell you.

Drew, this will, you may have already read this. Ryan, I think you're going to like this story. Okay, I'm ready. Specifically. There's a book called Expensive Basketball, which I'm reading right now. It's by a guy named Shea Serrano. Drew really likes him. This is my first book I've read of his.

Drew, I think you have like all of his books. I have every book he's ever written and wrote written. And I pre-order all. I love them. I love them. I mean, everything he puts out is good. So he's right. This one's about pro basketball, and it's like stories about pro basketball. And there's a story I wanted to quickly share about LeBron James that I think is funny. All right? So LeBron James is playing basketball, and I guess, I believe the player, I believe they're playing against the Wizards, okay? And it's a big game, and it's in the playoffs.

And Gilbert Arenas, he, every time they would play against Cleveland, which is who he was on, You know, Damon Jones? He was part of this whole gambling scandal, right? Yeah. Okay, so Damon Jones was his teammate. And Gilbert Arenas, Damon Jones owed Gilbert Arenas money from a card game. Okay?

And it really made Gilbert Arenas mad. By the way, we should have seen the Damon Jones thing coming, Shannon, by the fact that he still owed money for people from card games when they played the NBA. That would make sense. Really made him mad. He owed him like $50,000. So every time the Wizards would play Cleveland, Gilbert Arenas would make it his job to get Damon Jones and light him up, okay, because it made him so mad.

And he would play his best games against Cleveland because Damon Jones was gardening. He hated. It got to the point they played each other in the playoffs, Ryan, and they couldn't even play Damon Jones. Gilbert Aranus would crush him so much they had to keep him on the bitch. Wow. All right. Now, big time game. Wizards are up one.

Gilbert Arenas gets foul with like three seconds left with a chance to basically ice the game. He gets up to shoot, he gets nervous, he misses the first one. It's time for the second one. LeBron famously then goes up and starts talking in Gilbert's ear. You can see this online. He starts talking in Gilbert's ear. And Gilbert looks at him like, what are you doing?

And he keeps talking. And people have always wondered, what did LeBron say to him? Because in the second free throw, he misses by like two. feet. And people are like, LeBron must have rattled him. Apparently, LeBron whispers to Gilbert Arenas and says,

if you miss this, you know he's going to get you. That's all he says. All right? You know he's going to get you. Well, what did he mean? Damon Jones, who had not played the entire game,

they check him in for the final play. And Gilbert Arena sees him goes, that can't be what he means. They're not putting this game in. He is not so petty. They're going to put Damon Jones in for this final play to score. He was like, there's no way they do that. What do they do?

LeBron runs a play, kicks it out to Damon Jones, hits a shot at the buzzer and the Wizards. Wow. And the story is in the book for how petty LeBron is. He was mad that he had embarrassed his friend about this $50,000, and he waited until the playoffs. and then got it to where his friend hit the shot to knock him out. Wow.

I kind of think that's an awesome story, Shannon. It is, yeah, that he waited for that moment because I'm sure they played more throughout the regular season and other games, but he waited for that moment in the playoffs. And even Gilbert Arena's apparently admitted in a podcast later on that it shook him, and he still to this day is mad about the fact they checked him. The guy had not played the whole game, checked him in to hit the winning shot at the end. I mean, I'm sure that never happens.

That's a crazy story. And Drew, Arena says, I saw him come in and I was like, they're not going to lay him shoot. They're not going to do it. And then he did it. They ended up winning. Yeah, I even saw the video of Arenas telling this.

It went viral when Damon Jones got arrested. Because in 2006, Arena says, that's our gambling group, me, Damon Jones and LeBron, which kind of raise some red flags about LeBron's participation in all of this. But it also goes to show you these, there's these little games within the game, not necessarily like Terry Rozier stuff, but these guys have their trash talking and side stuff

going on all the time. And LeBron, that was an all-timer. That's an old-timer right there, I have to say. Who's next? Let's go to Donna. Donna, go ahead, Donna. I wanted to answer the question about the birth certificate, and you all already talked about that. So that was what I wanted to say.

And they also did it in the late 70s because that's when I got the one for my older son. So anyway, wishing you all a very happy Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving to you as well. Happy Thanksgiving. Okay. Appreciate the call.

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I'm taking Tennessee to cover that. The Tennessee might even win the game. Wow. All right. He's feeling saucy. What do you got, Drew? I'm going to ride the hot hand and follow a lemon with Tennessee covering the three and a half.

Shannon. Houston, Money Line. Well, no, I'm asking you get some. spread. Houston. You're going to take Houston to cover. I'm going to be with Shannon. Me and Shannon versus Brew and Ryan. I like my team. I think they played these two teams played in the tournament last year, didn't they? Wasn't that who we would have played Houston if we beat Tennessee? Houston knocked him out. Yeah, Houston knocked them out. And I remember Houston kind of

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