KSR - 2025-12-08- KSR - Hour 2
Episode Date: December 8, 2025Matt, Ryan, Drew, and Shannon talk College Football Playoffs, Notre Dame Football, and The Godfather.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....
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Text machine is 772-754.
A lot of good comments on the text machine.
One person writes, Matt, you all can talk.
Efford all you want, this team is poorly constructed.
That is ultimately the problem.
I don't disagree with you.
It's poorly constructed.
I think there's going to be a lot of questions as to why that happened.
I think Mark Pope should be asked about it.
Probably in the off season, though.
Shaming, you can't look at Mark Pope and go,
why does your team stink while they still have the rest of the game?
You know what I mean?
Right, right.
And nine games into the season, too.
Yeah, when it's over, though, he definitely should be asked questions about it,
which gets me to the second point of somebody.
saying, Matt, why don't the media press harder on Pope and get him to talk more about his deficiencies?
Well, I do think the media probably should ask a little bit harder questions, but that's also easier said than done.
I mean, you got to remember, think about just what happened last week with Mitch Barnhart when John Hale asked him about NIL.
You remember that rhyme?
What happened to John Hale?
He got yelled at.
He got very defensive.
He got yelled at.
So, like, people say they want the media to do that, but then, I mean, these people, they yell at them.
And then when that happened, you then have people who take up for Mitch and get mad at you.
Like, it's easy to say, go after these people.
Just remember what happened to me for four years for questioning Cal.
Like, you get blackballed.
Then you also end up getting a group of fans who get mad at you for asking anything.
Heck, I'll even go back to many years ago when Jerry Tipton was here.
he used to ask those kind of questions all the time,
and many people, and you're listening to one of them, me,
I used to criticize him for it.
And in hindsight, I was wrong about that.
You need Jerry Tipton.
They can't all be Jerry Tipton.
Then it's too negative.
But you need one or two of them.
But the problem is it's hard to be Jerry Tipton
because when you're Jerry Tipton and you ask those questions,
people, Ryan, get mad at you.
Yeah.
Yeah, you need a guy.
I always said it has a sharp pencil,
like Tipton, Alan Cutler, those guys that aren't afraid to ask, tough questions.
Yes, sir.
But that's a hard role to have because the fans get mad.
Yep, yeah.
And so, like, when things are bad, people always go, why don't you ask harder questions?
But what you need to ask yourself is when things are good and people ask hard questions, do you get angry at them?
No, I did.
Because that makes these reporters recoil a little bit.
But go ahead.
What were you going to say?
I'm sorry, I did like Jack Pilgrim asking Mark Pope about the DeMarc's Cousins tweet after the game.
You know, my Pope hadn't even seen it yet.
You know, you got to think.
And I thought his answer to that was good, where he said, like,
DeMarcus has a right to say that.
He's right.
He said, I'm mad at the coach, too.
Yeah.
I actually thought that was a good answer by Mark on that.
Drew, I think you have been, certainly with Mitch Barnhart,
and now with Mark Pope and even Mark Stoops.
In the last year or so, you've been a really harsher critic.
Does that make, do you find that difficult?
Because, I mean, I know that leads to difficult interactions with people.
at UK, et cetera.
Oh, yeah.
And, you know, I have a lot of friends at UK Athletics.
I'm sure they don't love me here lately.
It's not a fun role to play, and I try not to play it.
But, I mean, just overall, sure we have volleyball, that's exciting coming up this week.
But overall, UK athletics has been in a down spot, especially with their two big moneymakers lately.
And for me, it just got, it's gotten so bad.
I couldn't just sit here and put on a smile and try to be the fun guy.
I mean, this has been an embarrassing run by basketball, not just with Pope, going back to the last few years of Cal, how that was all handled.
Football with the big dip.
We're way behind an NIL.
Like, tell me something UK athletics is good at without saying the word volleyball.
Mitch says we're not behind it.
You've asked that question 19 times, Drew.
It's garbage.
Drew, it's garbage.
I would say this to Mitch.
If somebody asked me a question 19 times, I wouldn't get mad at them.
I'd say, you know what?
Maybe I'm not good at answering me.
I'm not answered it correctly.
I totally agree with you.
When you get asked the same thing 19 times, maybe there's something.
You get 18 with Mitch.
You don't get 19.
The 19th is too much.
I would say our women's basketball team is good and our women's volleyball team is good.
We're at women's school.
That's great.
Not down playing any of that.
But we need football and basketball to not be in the rut they're in.
And we need to figure out an aisle.
Let's talk just a second about the playoff.
Do we want Oregon to win a lot?
And let me explain some timeline stuff.
Oregon's going to beat James Madison in the first round of the playoffs.
Then they're going to play Texas Tech.
It's going to be on New Year's.
If they beat Texas Tech, they're going to go to the semifinal.
But the portal opens right after that game.
Would you rather Will Stein win get to keep coaching Oregon,
which will also be a billboard for UK football,
but he'll be preparing during portal season,
or would you rather him lose to Texas Tech
and be able to focus on the portal specifically?
Ryan.
I'm becoming a big Oregon Ducks fan.
I want them to win.
I want them to score a lot of points.
And I want to every time they show him in the booth,
they say, there's your new Kentucky head football coach right there.
They just put 42 up on Texas Tech.
I want them to thrive.
So you want them to win, all right?
Drew.
I want them to lose 70 to 69.
and we talk about how good his offense was when he gets his butt to Lexington.
Okay.
I'm selfish.
I want him to do well, and I'll be rooting for him.
But I don't get an Oregon hoodie if they win.
I don't cheer for Oregon.
I'd be happy for him, but I'm selfish and I need my cats having a good head start.
So I hope he looks great with the offense.
He's on TV a lot, and then he gets to come home right away.
Shannon.
Yeah, I mean, we want what's best for Kentucky.
We don't care about Oregon.
So I'd rather them lose and let them get to work right here with this job of Kentucky.
We're team no ducks.
No doubt
That's right
Line of the day
I'm quacking all time
I want him to go
I want him to win the title
I think it's good for us
There will probably be some
small negativity
about him not being here
during portal season
But I mean the phone works
Right so I think that's fine
He'll have his full staff in place
Chances will are
A lot of them do the recruitment anyway
I think
The best advertisement
For coming in plain
for Will Stein is Will Stein having success.
And the more he wins,
we can't, Kentucky football wins the last time we've played a game,
Ryan, where there'll be as many people watching as there will be the
semifinals of the playoff.
Maybe never, never.
Right.
So, like, we'll never get that kind of advertisement.
And players will sit there and say, look at that guy.
I want to go play in that offense, especially, I mean,
they have a path where they could legitimately get to the championship game.
So I'm going to.
be an Oregon fan. We're going to have Oregon watch parties at the bar. I don't know anybody
at know somebody at the University of Oregon. Send us gear. I'm quacking. And Ryan, you can quack with me.
I don't know if Drew and Shannon will join us, but I'm for Oregon. I think it's the best thing
that could happen to Kentucky football as them succeed. I agree. We definitely give a quack,
and we want the quack to keep quacking all day. Say, Shannon, you had a good pun, and now he thinks
he can do it. You know what I mean?
Yeah.
He, you gave me, you encouraged him, which is not what we want to do.
All right, two quick things about the playoff.
Indiana.
All right, Drew, I'm going to just go ahead admit they're good.
I didn't want to do it for two years.
I've not wanted to do it.
But that was a heck of a win against Ohio State, undefeated.
I think you can make a strong argument that what that guy has done at Indiana is maybe the greatest coaching job of all time.
isn't it to in two years
change it from maybe the worst
power five program in history
to the number one seed in the playoff
that's got to be the greatest coaching
job of all time
I can't think what I could put ahead of it
like this year when you consider just beat number
one Ohio State you went to
Oregon when they were number two
number three whatever they were then
all the other big 10 rivalries you have
you handle business there to run the table at
IU I'd that I thought would be
insanity I didn't think that ever be
possible and he did it so quickly.
So I agree with you. I don't know what job you could say is better.
It's the best in two years.
And it also completely changes the table on what is possible at any school.
I mean, you can't expect Ryan Will Stein to go do what Signetti did.
I'm not expecting that.
Signetti had been a head coach for 15 years with Steinhead.
But now you can look at that and go, anything's possible, right?
anything is if they can do it in Indiana
then why can't you do it anywhere
and to do it at Indiana
where nobody ever thought that would ever have any success in football ever
I mean they have an overall losing record
every coach has been a loser even Lee Corso was a loser there
and for him to come in and win well they've lost two games
in the last two years is just amazing
they were three and nine in 2023
that's amazing just two years
and they've lost one game in two years
that's amazing
It's crazy.
So you've got to like, or two games.
They've lost two games in two years if you count the ball.
So you got to give him a lot of credit.
All right.
So Notre Dame.
Whine as whiners that ever whined?
That's the whiniest whining group I've ever seen.
I've always disliked Notre Dame, but I'm done with Notre Dame.
Okay, not going and playing in the bowl.
That's taking your ball and going home.
But the Notre Dame, if you want to make the playoff Notre Dame, join a conference.
Okay, join a conference.
Your schedule's a joke.
You played two good teams this year, and you lost to them both.
They should have been out.
Miami beat them head-to-head, Drew.
They should have been out.
Alabama, I don't, you know, I'm not think Alabama's great,
but you can't punish them for playing in a conference
and playing in the championship game.
I'm fine with Notre Dame being out.
And the fact that they skip the bowl,
that is the most chicken-blike thing I've ever seen of a team to do.
I hate it.
And next year, go look at their schedule next.
year. They have the easiest schedule. You're a Notre Dame, and they don't play one good team
next year, not one. They're the worst, and Drew, I'm glad they got left out.
Don't, did I hear during the selection thing yesterday that next year, if Notre Dame is just inside
the top 12, they have a deal where they get to be? Yes. How ridiculous is that? And they're going to
be in the top 12 because they don't play anybody. Go look at their schedule. They play Miami.
at home. And besides that, they don't play anyone that's even decent.
They're like they, I have never been anti-Noderday, but I am now anti-Noderday.
And their coach, Shannon, he might be handsome, but who cares? Like, he's the worst.
I cannot believe they refuse to play in that bowl game.
By them refusing to play the NCAA should say, okay, you don't want to play in the postseason.
Next year, you're banned from the playoffs.
Next year, I agree. I'd support it.
True, they could have played BYU.
Those were two teams that both almost got in the playoff.
That would have been a good game.
Could have been a great game.
And I don't like that they did it.
I wish they'd play.
But this actually makes me worried that this is just going to start a trend where any team,
oh, I didn't make the top 12.
Well, all right, I'll try again next year.
I'm not going to go play in the whatever.
Well, the teams in the conferences, the conferences make too much money from these bowl games.
So the conferences are going to make it prohibitive that they can't do this.
They'll find them so much they can't do it.
Iowa State and Kansas State didn't do it.
they're in unique situations.
They both,
both teams either don't have a coach
or don't have a roster because of what happened.
I think they should play too,
but it's a little different.
It would be like if Kentucky had made a bowl game,
we wouldn't even really have a coach,
so it would be very difficult.
But Ryan, Notre Dame's is the weakest.
I think what, and the reason they can get away with
it's because they're not in a conference.
The conferences wouldn't let their teams do this.
So despite the Notre Dame snub,
were you okay with the other 12 team?
James Madison getting in?
I'm fine with it. I mean,
look, James Madison,
going to lose.
Shannon, but what would you rather see?
Oregon play James Madison and beat him by 40 or Oregon play Duke and beat him by 40.
Oregon play Vanderbilt and beat him by 40.
I'm okay with having a James Madison.
Like, they're going to get beat, but it's a cool story.
If you're going to let those teams be in D1, Shannon, you've got to give them a chance to make it.
Yeah, I guess so.
But, you know, yeah, you're right.
They're just going to get destroyed in the first round.
but I mean here's the bigger thing
they're going to have to expand the football playoffs
you know they are now because of teams like Vandy
and these teams that didn't get in
well this year the football playoffs being expanded
would be good because Vandy's good
Texas is good Notre Dame's good
but Drew there have been years where if you expanded it
the teams you would have let him would have been bad
yeah this year's unique
the snubs even Notre Dame have
have an argument of why they shouldn't be in
you can't let everybody in but this one seems wild
you know there's the Alabama controversy
everybody's argument over.
This was, of all the ways this could play out,
the committee must have really hated this one
because it was tough filling that last spot for them.
But if I remember correctly, like, was it last year?
Like, people didn't even think there were good enough teams to get in.
So, I, listen, I'm for his minute.
I want them to expand it, Ryan, because I want to make it one day.
So make it as big as you can for Kentucky to make it.
That's my view.
So here's my question.
How did Mississippi State edge out Kentucky in the academic performance to get
that bowl game.
That's a good question.
Our academic performance must not be very good.
I had it to the list.
I'd heard we were pretty high in that ranking,
and then Appalachian State and Mississippi State had better academic performance.
How did Mississippi State?
Yeah.
Well, I never, Mark Stoops was never big on the school part of it.
He wasn't making them do their homework on the sideline.
I mean, I'm not saying he didn't care about school.
I just don't think that one.
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And I promised we would get to the phones.
I know people got things to say.
So let's go ahead and do that.
Who's up first?
Paduca stew.
Paduca stew.
Go ahead.
Paduca stew.
Hey man
thoughts and prayers
you and your family
Thank you
Me and my wife went down to the game
And that game was very laughable
Well they're all fair
It's brutal
I mean
Again
What is the change you're going to make
That's going to be better
Like I think Lowe
I mean people
Look Low played what
14 minutes 16 minutes
Yeah 14 minutes
And by the time he got in
It was what 11 nothing
So I mean
There were people sending me things like
Oh Lod
didn't end up his guy. I mean,
Lowe is not, I'm not, who knows if Lowe will be a solution, but I don't think yet, Drew,
he's the problem, would you?
No, I don't think you could pinpoint any one person is the problem when the entire team
looks like the problem.
Yeah, I think that's the best way to say it.
Anything else, Stu?
No, sir.
Appreciate the call.
Drew, give me something positive.
Was it awesome before the game down there?
there was a shooting at my hotel as I was checking in
that should have been assigned well that's not awesome
I pulled up to the valet
give the valet my keys I go inside
drop my suitcase I'm not upstairs
10 minutes and when I come back out
I just walk into the crime city the valet had been shot
like minutes
I miss the valet shooting
maybe even by seconds
so I had that going for me
that was an interesting way to start
uh Friday
straight from that into the game where there wasn't.
Yeah.
So, yeah, it was a weird trip.
I did have fun.
Lots of friends there.
Really, the postgame scene on Broadway was kind of weird.
Like there were some fans that were angry.
There were some that were almost just laughing it off.
Like, this is so embarrassing.
We can't even process it.
I mean, you have bands like singing sad songs to Kentucky fans
and people giving out free beer because they feel bad for Kentucky fans.
It was supposed to be a celebration.
or maybe if you didn't believe
when the team would win
to be a celebration,
it just wasn't supposed to be that.
It was like just a weird
scene of people trying to process
what had happened
just before them.
Shannon would have liked the free beer.
I feel like he would have enjoyed that.
I would have jumped in on the party.
Who's up next?
Let's go to Randall.
Randall, how are you, Randall?
I'm doing good.
Yes, I would boo because these guys
are getting paid, you know,
to currently play.
And, you know, like with them getting paid,
I mean, you know, you got to, sorry if I don't have a little sympathy for as much money as they're making more than I'm going to make in eight, ten years probably.
But, you know, I think that Mark Pope and the coaching staff looks more tense than two Rams than heat at a tap dance recital at the moment.
And, I mean, with the, don't laugh.
It ain't funny.
Hang on, just a minute.
Hang on.
more heat than two, or excuse me, more tense than two rams in heat at a what dance recital?
Tap dance recital.
Tap dance.
I've never heard that phrase or did you just come up with that?
I just, it's just country slang.
I don't know.
I didn't know that that was a friend.
I mean, he needs to get these guys in the gym and work on those grandma arms.
And I hope when he goes down there to Atlanta, Rick Bettino, the godfather, grabs old,
you know, Pope and Shakespeare's them and says,
act like a man after that lost.
You know, I mean, that's all I can.
That's true.
You want that Godfather moment where he smacks him and goes,
I'll like my man.
Yes, that's right.
Yeah, yeah.
And Merry Christmas, fellas.
Merry Christmas.
I like that.
It's a good scene.
What is it?
The singer from Vegas comes into town.
And he's crying about his career.
Remember that scene?
And he smacks him and goes,
act like a man.
Has anybody seen the godfather?
Am I the only one that's seen that?
No, no.
Definitely.
Yeah, I've seen it.
Isn't that the one that we've, Ryan's not seen or am I dreaming that?
I have not seen it.
That is insane to me that you haven't seen the Godfather.
Yeah.
How, first of all, you're old.
I'm very old.
How have you not seen it?
Not seen it.
Shannon, have you seen it?
I've seen the whole thing.
No.
Are you kidding me?
No, I've never seen it.
Neither of you have seen the Godfather.
Ryan, let you and I go watch it together.
In all seriousness.
this.
It's widely considered the greatest movie of all time.
And it's also, unlike a lot of old movies, you can still watch it.
You know, they'll say, like, Citizen Kane's the greatest movie.
And then you start to watch it and you just fall asleep.
This is still good.
Will you two watch it, please?
Yes.
As a favor to me.
The only godfather I've been to is a different godfather.
I understand.
That one I know you know about it.
Yeah, I know that one.
Ryan, well, you would like it, Ryan.
Like, it's your kind of movie.
a guy's movie.
Yeah,
younger girls trying to educate me
and watch all these old movies.
This is not old movie.
This is not singing in the rain.
Okay,
you will like it.
I promise.
This is your kind of thing.
Is it like four hours long or is it?
Well,
it's like three and Godfather one.
Okay.
Godfather one's three and Godfather two's three,
but they're both good.
I promise you.
I'll watch the highlights.
There's no highlights.
The YouTube version of it.
Drew,
back me up on this.
Like this is legitimately really good.
Yeah, I mean, I love mafia type stuff anyway.
Do you like mafia movies?
Do you like mafia movies, Ryan?
I don't know if I've seen hardly any mafia movies.
What do you mean you haven't seen them?
Have you seen Goodfellas?
I think I saw that.
That's one, Danny DeVito, not Danny DeVito.
Joe Pesci?
Danny DeVito.
No, Joe, yes, Joe Pesci is in.
Have you seen that?
I've seen that one, yeah.
What about Casino?
No.
Great one.
Scarface?
No, not Scarface.
What do you watch?
Well, last night you go,
maybe watch White Christmas with Bean Crosby.
That's a great movie.
I love that movie.
That's a great.
I wish I would have been over for that.
You should.
The three of you need to get together
and watch White Christmas
instead of the Godfather.
That's beautiful.
Who's next?
You too.
Luke, go ahead, Luke.
How do I get these two is my co-host?
Luke, go ahead.
Guys, I don't know what I'm more disappointed in the basketball team or the fact that
Raton and Chan haven't seen the damn godfather.
Are you kidding me?
I mean, my goodness, that's disgraceful.
That's like a, that's like a, that should be like almost a capital punishment.
Anyway, back to what I really wanted to say.
The booing, I'll say this, the money has not changed my opinion on this.
I've always believed this.
You can boo coaches and you can boo the team collectively.
We don't boo individual players, though.
Like when we booed BJ Boston or a small portion of our fans did, that pissed me off.
But I fully and not only accept, I am grace booing entire teams and coaches.
I actually agree with that.
I agree with that.
I appreciate the call.
I agree.
I don't think you single out a guy.
I'm going to boo these two for not having seen the godfather, though.
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So this is the famous scene, Shannon, Ron.
You've never seen this?
No.
Nope.
Okay, so this is the wedding sing.
He sings right here.
And he's like this, how would you describe him?
Kind of a chubby guy, and he's like, he's dancing, right?
Yes, an old man.
Old man.
A giant suit on.
This, the wedding, the wedding scene.
I'm not just saying this part, but it's like 30 minutes.
They're having the wedding, and then inside the Godfather's meeting with all these various people,
Johnny Ola, and then Michael returns home from the war.
Like, it's the greatest scene in movies, and the fact that you haven't seen it.
And Ryan, here's the thing.
I know you would like it.
It's not like one of these things that's like nerdy that I'm telling you to watch and you wouldn't like.
You will love it.
How about if over a Christmas break, I make that by homework, a while?
Watch it.
But you act like he says Christmas break, Drew, like he does something besides this show.
I mean, Christmas break for you is just the same as now.
You'll actually be working during Christmas break.
We have a couple days off for Christmas and New Year's, so I can take some of that time off and watch.
What do you?
Drew, he's got, he's done in 25 minutes.
That's the afternoon.
You can't nap and watch a monkey.
What is he going out to eat by himself, by the way?
Like, what is this happening?
I don't know.
Things have kept coming up.
We're going to do it.
I'm not getting the...
The thing is, I have to be able to monitor this, Shannon,
and I'm really not in a position where I can monitor him right now.
Don't let him get away with it.
I'm not.
He's doing it.
And I may make him sit there and watch the Godfather while he's doing.
Yeah.
It's a long lunch.
Three hours.
All right.
So they said Jayne Quaints is going to come back.
Drew A, do you think that happens?
Matt Norlander said he thought by the St. John's game.
Do you think that happens, and if so, does it matter?
I still think it happens.
I've not one time had any shade and sharp thoughts about him.
I expect him to play when he's able.
I think he needs to show the NBA that he's recovered from his injury.
So part of it, I think he needs to do it for the future.
And, you know, I still think he's a good kid and wants to help the team.
I don't know how big of a help he can be at this point
if the guys are still just not making the extra pass and moping up and down the court.
But maybe he can bring energy and the rest will look around and see him doing it
because when he's playing at a high level and giving it all,
I mean, he is a game changer, especially defensively,
where he's one of those elite shot blockers.
Those are the two things I think, Drew just hit it that I think he can bring,
Ryan.
I think he can protect the rim and block shots so that we don't give up as many layups
and that we can get better rebounding.
And then energy.
I don't see that guy not like, I don't see that guy.
a lolly gag. I'm not going to be worried about his effort. So I think those two things are important.
Now, they don't deal with some of our major issues about shooting and ball handling, but I do think
he would bring those two things immediately. Yeah, definitely would help bringing that effort,
energy, toughness. So if you get him back and you get Diabate back, and all of a sudden you've got
a couple tough guys down there won't be bullying us around like Gonzaga did the whole game.
But I still don't know if we have guys who can make shots.
Nope.
And I don't know how you fix that.
I don't know how you fix that either.
I do not know how Mark Pope, a coach who literally built his entire brand,
his entire coaching philosophy around shooting.
How did he go recruit a team that can't shoot?
I just, I don't know how that happened.
Especially when the first team he brought in here, everyone could shoot.
Like that was the point.
is everyone can shoot.
And then the next year he was like, okay, how about no one shoots?
They're great in practice.
At least that's what we hear.
But that doesn't mean anything.
What do you think about that?
He said it was one of the greatest shooting teams he's ever seen through at practice.
How do we process that, having watched them?
I really don't know.
I mean, part of it I worry, you know, everything, we kind of joke, but everything is perfect and extraordinary and special.
I hope he wasn't doing that about three-point shooting.
But, you know, anytime you try to get a little bit of criticize him, it's like, well, this is going to be special.
Well, this is, you know, and maybe the three-point shooting was that way, too.
It was ugly.
It wasn't beautiful.
It was.
I just wonder, do you think he acts?
Do you think that those guys do shoot well in practice and they just can't shoot in the game?
Or, like, he's not delusional.
Like, I don't know.
Here's the other thing.
We don't really see these guys.
except the once or twice a year they open up.
So part of it is we have to rely to some extent on what the coaches say.
And Drew, I think in the future, like next year, whatever he says,
I just am going to probably be skeptical, aren't you?
Yeah, that Ferrari comment got a lot of people excited,
and then that just keeps coming up about, I mean,
we're getting all the memes of the actual cars he many has, you know,
1984 pentos, stuff like that.
But, I mean, he generated that excitement in these expectations.
There was national championship talk, Ferrari talk.
And now it's like, can you just win a game against a team that has a pulse?
And then we'll figure out what kind of car you've got and everything else.
Yeah.
All right.
Who's next?
Mark Anthony.
Mark Anthony.
Go ahead.
Good morning.
Matthew, Ryan, Drew, Shannon.
Matt, your dad is in my mind.
Thank you, sir.
Matthew, leave the gun, bring the canoley.
Thank you.
There you go.
Another godfather lie.
Oh, I love it.
Anyway, I think Coach Pope is drowning in his own analytics.
I believe he's just putting way too much stock in it.
He won't do a postgame show that he doesn't quote you some analytic statistic or another
that we don't understand.
He's got to explain it.
I think he's dependent too much on it.
I'm kind of like Drew, Coach.
Analytics are great running in the background.
But I don't want to see you refer to analytics at all in game.
You have time.
Give them a minute.
After the game, go crazy with your analytics.
But during the game, quote, Drew, use your eyes, coach.
Coach your team.
And I think it'll make a big green.
That Jay and Quentin, if he comes back, and I assume he will at some point.
But he's not in game shape.
Yeah.
If he gives you 10 minutes, it's going to be good.
And he's not played with these dudes a minute.
And so I don't know how much he's going to do.
No, I think that's a fair point.
We'll see.
Can't be worse.
Coach your game.
It can be worse.
Appreciate the call.
The anger on the text machine about you all not seeing Godfather is even more than I have.
It sounds like a them problem.
There are also like a million cultural references from it.
Do you not ever get those like, you know, leave the gun, take the canoly like he just said.
Never heard that before.
I heard it five seconds ago with the other guy, but not before that.
Okay.
Make an offer you can't refuse?
Yeah, what about that one?
He made an offer he can't refuse.
You mean that came from the Godfather?
Nobody ever said that before the Godfather?
Yes.
Actually, the Godfather's one.
Well, I mean, every word has been said before.
At some point, I've heard.
I mean, people use the number six, seven at some point, but then it becomes a thing.
I just, here's the thing.
Here's what you have to understand.
Movies.
I don't like old movies past like pre, like, 19,
I think old movies like black and white outside of a couple like the Wizard of Oz you said white Christmas whatever wonderful life if you try to watch old movies in my opinion most of them don't hold up it's like trying to watch my three sons or something father knows best it's just too long ago
Matt you should have heard these two during the break I don't think you could hear them they were just reciting white Christmas their favorite scenes they're laughing yeah are you like this this bromance
who are you too is that what you
do when you go to Florida as you just sit around and watch white Christmas and like if it's on yeah
I love Lucy's sisters they were singing that together sisters you know maybe they should be
replaced by Billy why so you could break everything in the studio speaking of breaking lamps
do you Shannon a lot of people are saying we did start playing
bad when Annabelle came.
I'm telling you, you know, when you made fun of Annabelle.
You openly mocked her.
Why is it not Annabelle coming?
Why is it less me than it is Annabelle showing up?
Well, I think we could have just let her go, but then you had to like pile on and say this stupid doll.
And when that happened, we had a guy that got hurt and the team started sucking.
And it's your fault, really.
I mean, we blame you anyway.
It's nothing to do with me.
I think it's that the fact that you all haven't seen the gunfather.
If you had, I think it would be fine.
I'll tell you what, I'll go watch the Godfather,
and we'll see if they can beat Indiana Saturday.
Okay.
How about this?
It's Godfather 1 and 2.
I actually think 2 is better than 1, but 2.
Forget about 2.
Pick 1.
Pick your favorite.
You need to watch this first 5th, 4th,000.
Won't make as much sense.
Ryan, can you watch Godfather 1 before Saturday so we can beat Indiana?
I will absolutely watch it before Saturday.
All right, and if you all both watch it, and then we lose to Indiana,
I will concede that it's Annabelle that calls it.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
Yeah.
So you both have to watch the Godfather in its entirety before Saturday.
Okay.
Got it?
Yeah.
Godfather one.
Godfather one.
Two, you get to.
You'll want to watch two after you watch one.
No, I'm sure.
You're both going to like it.
I'm telling.
I shut up.
Who's next?
Martin.
Martin.
Go ahead, Martin.
Hey, Matt.
Can you hear me?
You're driving right now.
All right.
sending you prayers to your family.
And then I kind of wanted to go back your comments on Notre Dame.
I'm Roman Catholic.
I've always hated Notre Dame primarily because I have a lot of Catholic friends,
and they all root for Notre Dame just because they're supposedly Catholic.
So I couldn't agree with you more there.
I've never understood that either.
Because you're Catholic, you have to be for Notre Dame.
There are a ton of Christian schools.
I don't have to root for them, right?
I mean, like, that's ridiculous.
Go ahead.
I can never stand it.
And two things about the basketball team.
I'll reiterate what most of the guys have already said regarding booing.
I'm all for booing a team and a coach, especially now that they're getting paid, the money that they do.
You know, you have guys working 9 to 5 out in the eastern coal mines who don't make near as much as that money.
And we're not going to feel sorry for these guys just because they start feeling sorry for themselves on the sidelines or can't get along.
You're making money.
You get to play for a D1 school.
just try your butt off and die for loose balls.
I mean, if I see Oway look at another loose ball as it goes past,
I'm going to throw something on my TV.
And then the other thing, and I'll hang up,
Mark Pope, I feel like is overthinking how to motivate these guys.
Like when you hear him say, turn a switch on,
check their emotions and all these different things.
I'm like, dude, they're 18-year-old young men.
You know, I played rugby when I was 18.
Sometimes you just need to run sprints and have a coach yell at you.
that's the perfect age for a young man to be molded into a warrior.
And he's not doing that with these players.
I see him on the sideline clapping his hands going,
come on, guys, come on guys.
Yell at these guys.
I mean, these guys are getting paid.
Well, sometimes people just don't connect.
I remember I appreciate the call.
Years ago, Drew, you may remember Patrick Patterson,
visited Duke.
And do you remember his quote after his visit?
Do you remember what his quote was?
He said, I just wasn't feeling those guys, right?
And the point of it,
was like he just kind of thought they were dorks.
Sometimes people just don't connect.
And part of me wonders, Ryan, did Mark Pope pick a group of guys he just doesn't connect with?
I think you can make that argument.
You know, most staffs do have, you know, a bad cop, good cop.
You know, Cal used to yell at him, and then Kenny Payne used to pat him on the back and pick
them back up.
I don't know if this staff has that guy that can get in their face and try to motivate him that way.
Last year those dudes were older, they were kind of dorky themselves, and maybe it worked.
I don't know.
This group, it just doesn't seem like when po-inch, they just don't seem to connect.
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Will you actually say it though if you like it, Ryan?
And don't pack like it.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, we'll definitely.
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You and I, we didn't even talk about this.
You know, I was reading that ad.
You thought it was good. Keep the music playing.
That's right. Yeah. Godfather music.
As the moment you started, I thought, I hope he keeps his playing.
And I didn't even have to tell you.
You just knew.
That's right.
Well, it's what happens when you've been working together for 15 years?
The fact that you knew that, that's like only, you're the only person that would have known to keep doing that.
Well, I just, I got to keep me around then.
I'm keeping you around.
All right.
So, all right, so people are noting these pop culture references.
Do you, Shannon, excuse me, Ryan, if you ever heard, uh, he sleeps with the fishes, right?
Luke, I've heard of that.
Yes.
Yeah.
Godfather.
Okay.
Just when that thought I was out, they pulled.
me back in.
You know that one?
I've heard that also.
Godfather.
Godfather.
You ever heard like a group of siblings,
the one that's the stupidest?
They'll call him Fredo?
No.
No.
I haven't heard that one.
I think Trump calls one of the Cuomo Duke kids Frato.
No, I do.
I think he does.
Well, I get your other references.
And I understand your references, too, without seeing the movie.
Sleeps with the fishes.
Yeah, he's dead.
He's floating in the water.
Got it.
Do you think of any others, Drew?
Uh.
Keep your friends.
close and your enemies closer was being in that.
That's right. That's right. That's Godfather too.
Wow.
That. Yeah.
Like everything that we know came from the Godfather.
Pretty much everything.
Nothing didn't come from the Godfather.
Be your brother's keeper.
That came from the Godfather.
Well, that was more the Bible.
Oh.
That's the Godfather.
Oops, ice cream.
Yeah.
Who's next?
Adam.
Adam. Go ahead, Adam.
Matt.
A man that can never.
and spend time with his family can never be called a true
That's exactly right
Can never be a true man
That's exactly right
Also the godfather
Yeah
Going to
You know just Mark Pope
Reference and Godfather
He might need to be hitting the mattresses already
We got to figure something out
Yeah
Well let me
I mean do you
Do you all have confidence
Well first of all I ask you on the phone
Do you have confidence Pope can turn it around?
Yes, because we've seen them do it, but good grace.
I mean, that Gonzaga game, that's the worst.
I mean, you got to go back to Billy Claude to see a performance like that.
That just really COVID.
We were bad in COVID.
We were bad during the COVID year, but I don't know if we quit.
Maybe we did.
I can't remember.
I appreciate the call.
Drew, do you think he can turn it around?
No, not this year at least.
They just, they seem to really not like each other.
even if he found the basketball answers like he did in some of those big wins last year
where he made in-game adjustments, even if he started putting the pieces together from a basketball standpoint,
I don't know how you get this group on the same page, especially if this just keeps spiling.
I mean, if they lose to Indiana on Saturday, God, it will get nasty around here.
Ryan, you, I mean, you've worked with people you didn't like over the years.
You just have to get over it, don't you?
Usually you find, you know, the common goal.
You rally around the common goal, and that's to play good basketball and win.
games.
This team just seems to be broken, and I don't know if it can be.
They'll have some games they play really well, and they may have a big win, but they
just seem to be broken.
And when you have a gutless performance like we had on Friday, that's hard to recover
from.
Yeah.
I mean, I've worked with people I didn't like, Shannon, but, you know, when it, I mean,
they said Mike and Mike hated each other.
Right.
But they made it work.
That's right.
But every morning they came on, they made it work.
They got, I mean,
I've got to do better than this.
I don't care what happened between.
I really don't.
Whatever it is,
it can't be like this.
So what do you do?
If you're Mark Pope,
what do you do right now?
I don't know.
I think the best advice I've heard is go back to the basics.
Like just take a step back
and whatever is your most basic basketball knowledge,
go back to that.
And then I also agree with the person that said,
forget your notions of who should play,
go out there and play the five guys
given the most effort, whoever that is.
And he seemed to do that in the second half.
He left those five guys out there.
And I think I would learn even though the second half
didn't go great, it went better than the first half, right?
Just play the guys who were giving you effort
and then go from there.
Stop trying to play everybody.
They don't like it.
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This was just basketball.
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