KSR - 2025-12-10- KSR - Hour 1

Episode Date: December 10, 2025

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I'm Matt Jones here at the KS Bar and grill back with Drew. and Ryan in Lexington, and you can give us a shout. On the Clark's Puppet Shop, phone line 859-2-8-8-0-22-87. A-Vision Auto Glass Text Machine is 772-7-4 in this edition, sponsored by the T.J. Smith Law Office. If you call T.J. on Make them pay, it is Wings Day. Dollar Wings. I was thinking yesterday. I haven't had them in about two or three weeks, so I think I'm going to get some tonight and eat them for dinner. But Wings Day, Dollar Wings, all day and nights will come on out.

You can come see us here at the show, and if you want, Darius Miller will be here at 11 o'clock. Yes. You can come meet Darius Miller, who's going to be on the show for, he's been on it before, but it's been a little while. I guess unless you had him during TBT. Did you have him during that time? No, we had him at a remote show during the summer, it seems like he came by. Hamburg. Oh, yeah, out in Hamburg.

That's right. But it's been a while since I've seen him, so I'm looking forward. I'm interested to hear his take on our. our basketball team and a lot of the stuff that's going on. This is going to be a big show today. I'm going to go ahead and tell you. We're going to talk about the game. I want to talk about some of what the players and Pope said after the game.

And then I want to talk a little bit about through the grapevine. Ryan, I'm hearing there's a story coming out today that's going to be kind of important. You got a little scoopy scoop here today? Well, I don't, but there are people that do, and I kind of know it's coming. So we're going to hint on it a little bit. So that's, probably do all that in the first hour, and then Darius will be here in the second hour. Let's start with the game. Kentucky beats NC Central 103-67.

Started out kind of, I was talking to a hubby this morning, and he said, I think we were about two more heirs from a second set of booze coming up in the arena. But then a 16-0 run, game gets kind of put away. I think going, I think the takeaway, from the game is probably that at least one person just got benched. Brandon Garrison. I think that's probably the takeaway. Shot the ball a little bit better.

Overall, let's leave the Garrison thing aside. What's your biggest takeaway from the game? Yeah, I think that's what I wanted to see. I wanted to see him shoot the ball better. I want to see him play with a little more energy, a little more effort. Which they did. They did. Not at the beginning.

No. But after that time out. I think Trent Noah and the starting lineup did kind of give him a little boost of fresh air, energy jolt and he knocked down the three to start the game i think they kind of got them rolling a little bit so the main thing i was just happy they shot the ball better that was my main objective to see can you knock down a couple threes and they were able to do that yeah the two kentucky boys are the story for me jasper having that big game getting 22 points maybe that can be a little bit of a breakthrough from him and then trent noa even though he was hitting his threes he was doing

everything else too i mean he was a complete player effort energy everything we've wanted out of the whole bunch here lately uh i thought trent just had an outstanding game uh even though he only had 10 11 Yeah, I thought Noah played really, really well, and I think that's a good step. And then the Jasper Johnson, it's like you finally get to see some of the stuff come to fruition in terms of his talent. Now, granted, I mean, I'm taking – we've beaten all these teams like this, right? I mean, we've – this has said nothing about what was going to happen the other game, so I'm not going to get too excited about it. But with that said, at one point it was what, 29, 21, and – And we give up a turnover and you go, oh, no, is it going to be something like that?

And then you get the run and you're able to kind of enjoy the game. You even got a Zach Tal. Zach Tao show. Drew called it on the pregame show. He called the Walker Horn 3, and last night he called the Zach Tao 3. And apparently Zach gave the pregame speech. He did. I can't figure out the rest of the team, but I got the walk-on whisperer, I think.

Zach Tao gave the pre-game speech about what it means to wear the jersey. I guess that's kind of cool, right? Frank Pope said he got a little teary-eyed even when he was talking to the guys in his pre-game speech. It was good to see Jasper kind of a breakout game. Good to see O-A, kind of get back to the O-A-type thing, driving the basket and hitting the three and playing good defense. I thought O-A was positive throughout the game. That was good to see. So let's talk about the two takeaways then.

First of all, Brandon Garrison has another highlight play that kind of is like the O-Way highlight play from the game last week. He turns it over, jogs up the course. does not get back on defense, and Mark Pope calls timeout, lays into him. As mad as we've maybe seen him, just lays into him and then doesn't play him for the rest of the game. He's interviewed at halftime. He looks very angry. After the game is over, he's still very angry. This has been kind of a consistent theme.

Didn't put him in again and didn't look like that had satisfied him, which makes me think there might have been a reaction from Garrison to him. that he didn't like because normally you'd go, I wanted to teach him a lesson, and then you'd move on. But that anger still seemed palpitable on his face after the game. Drew, do you think, you know, Rob Doster had suggested that they should kick Brandon Garrison off the team, which I thought was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, everybody slow down. I don't know that that's going to happen.

But that suggests to me that those guys have even heard things that we don't know. what do you make of Brandon Garrison right now? Well, that's, I mean, we didn't want him to play bad. We'd rather him play well, but that's what fans have wanted for a while from Pope is to send a message, and guys that just aren't getting it done needed to go sit down and let the bench be a tool.

And when he got stripped by their 6-2 guard goes the other way for an easy bucket. It doesn't run. It doesn't run. Yeah, I mean, the effort is 90% of it, I think. Because he could have gotten back. With his length and that guard being little, there's a world in which he could have gotten back and blocked that shot.

That, I think, is part of what's frustrating. And there's been several times where he just hasn't tried to block a shot at the rim just in other parts of the game. So the two turnovers and just looking like he's not even engaged, that's gone on long enough. And clearly Pope had had enough. It was, I mean, he was very, very angry, clearly. I think they preached since the Gonzaga game,

look, that was unacceptable. You are going to play with effort. You are going to play with energy. you are going to play hard, you are going to play with hard, or you're not going to play. And I think Pope sent a message to everybody when he pulled Brandon out, and that's when things kind of turned around. They started playing better after that. Are we seeing the end of the Brandon Garrison?

I think it's coinciding with the beginning of the Jaden Quatens era going to start here very soon and maybe the diminish of the Brandon Garrison era. But I mean, I'll know what Rob Doster said. Rob may not be connected to Pope, but Goodman is. I mean, they said that last week. It didn't get a lot of attention. But as I watched that last night, and I wasn't surprised Pope did it, but I was surprised that after the game, he looked just as angry about it,

which is almost like nobody had tried to make amends. I mean, is that, am I crazy? I think Ryan's right. I think the timeline of Quaintance, I think Pope gave him as many opportunities as he could, knowing he needs him right now. But when Quaintiffin's checks in, somebody's going to sit. Well, Tiavite, we think is going to be him. play maybe Saturday, so he becomes even less important Saturday.

So Pop might have just said, I've given you chance after chance, and this might have been your last chance, and that's how you're going to show up or not show up. Even last night, you know, he played Yellovich at the 5 for a little bit. I think, I think it's sitting there another match. Look, we can move on without you, pal. If you're not going to do what we ask you to do. He's going to say pali. Pally?

Pally. Pally. Well, I mean, fans have been, I mean, Brandon Garrison's been, I think, fans least. favorite player this year. No doubt. It is, in terms of the return of him, it's been so disappointed. It has been. And, you know, I guess the only thing he's done is occasionally he's made threes when

no one else can make one. But that's really it. I do wonder if, you know, I mean, Cal's old quote, you can have one knucklehead on the team you can't have two. I'm not calling him a knucklehead, but there may be a sense of them saying, look, we can't have you spoiling the broth, right? Yeah, we're trying to reset and get on the right track, and if anybody's in our way or holding us back,

might not be a part of that train moving forward. And that's one reason when you've got 12 guys, maybe you can do that, you know? And I don't know to the extreme of kicking him off the team, like some shows have said, but he can certainly go sit at the end of the bench and check in with Walker and Zach. Yeah, I mean, kicking off the team,

I can't even remember when the last time Kentucky's kicked a guy off the team. I mean, I don't think that happens very, much. But not playing or making him the 11th man is certain. I mean, that might have happened anyone, to be honest with you. So, you know, Pope calls the timeout just to chew on Brandon Garrison, spends the whole time out chewing on Brandon Garrison, breaks a clipboard. Chewing on Brandon Garrison. So I think the other guys, I took it as message received, because they went out and played their best basketball the night right after that. Without Brandon Garrison.

I like the cameras made a point. Even after the commercial break, they did a replay of Pope Y'L and at him. It's because fans have wanted Pope to yell at someone so much. They even zoomed in and like made sure everyone got to see it when he was giving them those sit-downs. What do you make by the way of, you know, we have been, we got to be careful because we've kind of rolled our eyes sometimes at the relentless positivity of Pope. He now, though, is very much showing like middle-aged sad dad energy. Like he's like there are, there are like bags under his and he looks tired and he doesn't smile and he looks upset. I mean, what do we think of that mindset?

Because that's like what we're getting. This is not the same guy in talking. I think we all agree. He loves this program. He loves this university. He loves these guys, and he's probably had some sleepless nights in the past month after these losses. It is probably wearing it on him a little bit.

Are you finding it inspiring or hopeful? I did last night. Okay. So you like that? I did. Yeah, I did. I like, I mean, like we've always said, we want our coach to care when they lose. He certainly does that.

We don't want them to go, say, I'm going to go home with my dogs and go watch the Bush people on Alaska show. The thing is the Waltons. But he liked the Alaskans, too. He mentioned something about Alaska. What about O.A? So after the game, it felt like to me, I don't want to, I mean, I don't want to be like, you know, when you start to do the, get close to the middle-aged thing. I'm going to say close because I don't think I'm.

You got ways to go. Mid-40s is not mid-lite, right? Still on the other half. Still puppy. You can become cynical. So O-A does a player interview, and the whole team comes over and, like, dances behind. It's the Oklahoma City Thunder interviews. Yes.

And then when the game was over, O-A said, of course there's nothing wrong off the court. Our problems are on the court. We are extremely close. you buy that well I took it as I didn't look to see who was standing around O'Way I looked at who wasn't standing around O'Way and who wasn't Brandon Garrison was not in that little group huddle right there when they were in because that's the thing to do now

I've interviewed the start of the game the other players gather around and kind of joke with him a little bit Garrison was not there he was not there but Diabate was there Aberdeen was there and everybody says you know those are the three they're maybe having the issues Aberdeen O'AWay Scuddle butt you know all the internet rumors See, why is he got to say that? Nobody said that, but you're the only, you're the one that said that. But what about, do you believe him when he says there's no?

I mean, because he said it definitively. He was smiling. Do you believe it? I am a little skeptical of what, you know, we can take away from last night and what this means. But even with a little bit of hesitation, I'm glad they're putting it out there and at least showing it. Because when they're not showing it, I sit here and beg, we all act like they like each other. So now they're acting like they like each other. other. I can only be happy and hope that it's a good point. Yeah, you can't, you can't say,

it looks like they hate each other, and then they try to act like they like each other and go, I don't like that either. Like at some point you do have to give them. And I'm glad he said something about turning the season around. I think that's going to be very difficult. But I'm glad they believe it. He said, this is going to end up being a year we remember for the rest of our lives because we turn it around. Immediately when he said that, I thought of Aaron Harrison's line in 2014 where he said it's going to be a great story or whatever. That was late in the year when he said that. That was like only a couple games left.

That worked. He ended up being correct. You think this one can be correct? I think there's still plenty of time to turn this around. The SEC is not like it was last year. There's a lot of wins out there. But I'll tell you what, you've got to win Saturday. But we don't have a Julius Randall on this team.

To carry you to the finals. And we don't really have guys like the twins on this team. You got to win Saturday, though. You cannot let Indiana come in here and punk you. and win that Rupp Arena. You have to win that game. Yeah. Well, we went well last night.

It doesn't change a whole lot, but it did go well, so I think that's positive, and, you know, you get the win. A 59-2-80-2287. What you think of it? Tax machine 772-774-5-25-4, specifically the garrison benching and O-Way's comments after. We got a lot of other stuff to talk about, including need to talk about some off-the-court basketball stuff

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It is K.S. Bard, Wings Day. We, a couple things. We play Indiana Saturday. You may remember Ryan Lemon Scoop. Lamar Wilkerson would be coming to. Kentucky. He did not come to Kentucky. Ryan's only real scoop failure

over the years, but he went for 44 last night. Had 10 threes. 10 of 15 from threes. Would be nice to have that guy, wouldn't it? My goodness. Set the I.U. record last night, because that game came on after the Kentucky game, so a lot of us turn over and watched it,

the guy was just hitting everything. If he comes in here and scores 30 next week, first of all, Ryan is going to get punched. It's not Ryan's fault, but that will not be good because that's a guy. I think you put him on this team. It might be a completely different situation overall. If you just insert him into the lineup, you might see a completely different result.

I completely agree. Indiana had been on a little bit of a slide. Thought we were going to be limping into Saturday. And then they scored like 115 points. And wasn't just the threes. He was like 16 of 21 from the field. I mean, just little. I really didn't think we needed that.

Well, I mean, I did think we needed him. I thought we could get by even not having him, but that's clearly not the case. He would have been perfect for what we need at this point. So I feel like he got it all out of his system last night. I hope you're right. We'll see. Usually that's not how it is. Okay.

I'm going to give the tease on this and then say I'm going to let the people doing the story give the details. But there's a story that's going to come out maybe later today. If not, it'll be tomorrow. but I think it'll be later today. But it will go into some detail about something we've talked about a lot on here, which is my concerns about the new collective arrangement with Kentucky in JMI. Just to give you a little background, Kentucky, as part of a new structure, basically gave over their NIL collective everything to JMI,

and essentially signed what is a 25-year deal that basically allows JMI to run Kentucky Collectives. It supposedly folds in the private ones and makes it into one school one. At the time, I was very critical. A, they released it by press release here, didn't have a press conference, still haven't had a press conference, nobody really knows how it works. I mean, I don't know anybody that knows how it works. Every time Mitch has asked about it, he yells at us and tells us we're children and we don't understand and we have enough money. That's fine.

But JMI is essentially now in charge of creating the deals for these players. And they've taken a system that was run by essentially business people on the outside. There was a guy who kind of ran our basketball one. we've talked about him before and then football had their own a guy who was very close with Mark Stoops and I actually think both of them did pretty good jobs in a different way

we can talk about the successes and failures but I thought the basketball in particular was run really well now it all goes to JMI and we are the only school in the country that has this arrangement Mitch got up and said oh Learfield does this they don't he's wrong about that

they have collected jMI and learfield do other things for other schools but they're not the sole collective they didn't sort of put all the private ones out of business and i was very skeptical about how this was going to work because of dealings i've had with jmi in terms of just the way they manage business and i was worried about it i said though the proof will be in the pudding right maybe it'll work maybe we will be an industry leader and this will be great and every other school will follow suit i remember when it got announced in the press release it says kentucky is about to be an innovator and the other schools will follow well that's been about six months ago and no schools followed yet now that doesn't mean they won't and also i think underlying that deal

was an assumption that congress was going to pass legislation which as we've seen is never a good assumption in today's world that Congress will do anything. So far they have not passed legislation. And I am now officially concerned. I was theoretically concerned before, but I am officially concerned about how this is going to work. And there's going to be a story coming out later today where a couple people that have worked pretty hard on this have some information that should worry Kentucky fans about how things are going. Drew, you know what's coming out. This was my fears.

My fears have been manifested, I think. And we've talked about how bad the deal was with Cal and how bad the deal was with Stoops. I'm worried that we've now set ourselves a third deal like this and one that we will not get bailed out of. and could really be a problem. Are you concerned about it? I've been concerned since day one. I don't love what we've heard since day one. Mitch really needed this score act to pass

because it would put a lot of laws in place. Mitch wants to play by rules that don't exist right now. He just wants to be in the lines of the rules, and no one else is in those lines with him. He even emailed out a whatever blast, wanting people to get behind the score act, and the day he was yelling at us like we were infants over here, they didn't vote on it and push it down the road.

It might not look like it. Let me explain to you why the score act real quickly is unlikely to pass in the way Mitch wants it. Mitch wants the score act to pass, and there will be an act eventually that's passed. But the way the House and Senate work is the Democrats in the Senate have to agree. You cannot just pass it along by party lines. It's not even clear all the Republicans agree because some of these people represent states that are not in the power five, right? I've talked about how Washington State, there's a couple of Washington State alums who are like, how are you going to leave out Washington State and Oregon State?

So even if it could pass just with Republicans, it might not pass. But they still have to get Democrats. And the Democrats are not going to sign on to something that says players have to do whatever the NCAA says. So Mitch has been hoping for this thing that just wasn't going to happen, at least in the form he thinks it's going to happen. and we created a business deal under the assumption legislation is going to pass that it's not clear will. Yeah, he wants it all to be in house, and if the rule's written where it's in house, then sure, you were a little ahead of it, but it's not looking like that's the case. No other school is like pushing away outside collectives or deals. There's no rules or the rules he thinks that are in place right now do not exist.

When he said that at Will Stein's thing, like we will not play outside the laws. I think these laws are in your head right now because no other school is doing it like that. The guy that you see on TV who's pushing the score act, you know the guy that shows up during commercials and he's like, save sports, pass the score act. It's a Texas Tech alum. Here's a little secret. He's trying to get that legislation passed, but he's not playing by the rules either. He's still operating a private collective at Texas Tech.

That's why they're good at sports right now. So the same guy trying to pass the legislation, even he realized, if this doesn't pass, I'm still doing this. And yet we're following rules. We're already locked in. Mitch is a hall monitor and the teacher is out of school. Mitch is walking down the hallway going, follow the rules. And the teachers are on spring break. And you're going to see later today the results of that in the immediate term.

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Those of you that are writing me asking me details about what we just talked about, just be patient. It'll the article be out later today on the KSR Radio, Kentucky Sports Radio, website. So I will leave it to them. They also know more about it. They've been researching this for a while. I will say one more thing about it. I don't care what the deal is.

25 years is absurd. When the laws are not, when the laws are not even in place yet, you don't even know they're going to pass. It's a new company and a completely new thing. 25 years is insanity to put on anything. Wouldn't you agree? And just the fact that it's a media company that I personally don't even think is that good at media. We're handing them off a whole other, here's a whole other job. You're a completely different company now and all of our athletic success rides on it.

Yeah. I mean, I was skeptical from moment one. Again, I hope to be proven wrong. Maybe we still will be. But the early returns make me very worried. One person writes, Matt, I heard on the postgame show that Ryan is going to watch the Godfather. Is he excited? Matter of fact, I think I'm going to do it tonight.

I have nothing going on tonight. I was going to try to watch it tonight. Will you approach it with an open mind that you're going to enjoy it? Because I think you will enjoy it. Well, to be honest. You haven't even watched a lot of stuff, and you've never led me a strace, and, Ryan, you will like this. This one I know you'll like. Okay.

I know, I mean, there are times I ask you to watch something. I'm like, I don't know if you like it, may not. You're going to like this. Like, it's the kind of manly old movie. Plus, like, some of the things that make people not like it because in the 70s movies are paced a little slower. That's your era. So you're going to be fine with it. Okay.

I think tonight's tonight. I'm going to try to sit down and watch it. Two hours. That's a long time for me. Three hours. Oh. Good sense. It's more like $2.50.

Maybe I'll break it up. Yeah, probably two hours and 50 minutes. Plus the hour you're going to spend trying to find it. That's very true. I think it's on Paramount. Yes. Okay. So do you have Paramount?

I don't, but Yoga Girl does. Okay. They're perfect. I love when a good plan comes together. Yeah. So it's on Paramount. I mean, you suggested righteous Jimstones. They've got to be about the same, right?

A little different than righteous Jimstones, but equally as entertainment. I'm telling you're going to like all the characters. You're going to be, I bet you, I bet you, come in like quote and lines. Okay. Okay. Then they happen tomorrow if I watch it tonight. And then Godfather 2 I think you'll like as well.

It's a little more intellectual. Some people think Godfather 2 is the best movie of all time. That's what I always heard. It was better than the original. Like one of the few sequels that was surpassed. I think they're both two of the 25 best movies I've seen, both of them, which is very rare for a movie and a sequel. I think the third one's not terrible.

It's just people compare it to the first two, which is a little bit harsh on. I didn't know there was a third one. Yeah. We don't want to worry. Just do the first one. Okay. That's not worry about the third one until you get the first one. Got you get the first one.

All right. 859-2802287. Benton is in the house. Marshall County over there. It's always take a Harold. He said, my first thoughts went to Harold. God rest he saw. What a great guy that man was.

Yes, it was. And the Big Bank. Big Bank's still there. The Big Bank. Big Bank. We like the Big Bank. Who's up first? Frank.

Frank. Frank. Go ahead, Frank. Frank. I think it's difficult, you know, in most scenarios to, you know, say that anything is guaranteed. Matt, I can guarantee you this. If somebody in corporate America gave out two lifetime extensions to two coaches with no safety precautions whatsoever to protect their entity, and then handed a 25-year deal to a media company who is mediocre in many different areas,

they would be fired on the spot. These people live in a different world. It is insane to me that this guy still has a job. And I'm also tired of people saying he's the best athletic director in the history of the school. He's okay. He's good. But really, these actions of the last five years have taken him from excellent to great to okay and solid. And I'm sorry, but this guy needs to retire like this week.

It's enough is enough. How many times is you going to keep putting this in a horrible spot as a university? This is a joke. Well, I appreciate the call. All right, so that call had a lot of layers. Your first part where you say, no one in corporate America could give this many bad contracts and be kept is completely valid. Mitch needs to, we need a transition to a different air.

I said that after we lost Louisville on the Stoops thing. I felt like it even more when he started yelling at the thing about you all, about garbage. I mean, he looked like people aren't going to like this, but that's fine. I don't even care if they do or not. It reminds me differently about like when I wake up and see a 5,000 word

Donald Trump Twitter rant about he's the healthiest person in America, and I'm like, dude, come on. I felt that way listening to him start yelling about garbage. I'm like, dude, come on. You are an athletic director. You can't keep your temper for three seconds when people ask you about the

most important thing in college sports. I'm going to go ahead and tell you this afternoon. I'm going to put in a request to have him on the show next week. I'll let people know if he says yes or no. He needs to be asked all these questions. And if he won't answer him, to me that says a lot. And I like him, but I'm kind of tired of it. And I think all those questions are valid.

And the way he loses his temper about reasonable things says to me, it's time for him to step aside. It's just, it'll be better for everybody. I thought about this last night when they were doing the O-Way interview. Okay? We have a relatively positive night. The guys are standing behind him. You know, whether you think that's real or not, it's a good thing to see.

And what's playing in the background? Let's all go down to Duma's Walker. Now, I love that song. But it is 2025. And we're out here, Duma's Walkering it. And, again, I love that song. Great song. I love it, too.

But come on. Can we modernize a little bit, right? Where are we on the cutting end? Are we the best at anything? Do we have anything that we're at the forefront of? Like, oh, this is a great idea that no one else is doing. That's a good question. What is Kentucky?

Even something small. What in 2025 is Kentucky Athletics on the forefront of? Are we in the top eight of the conference? I'm trying to think. Because I'm sure there's some, I mean, like, okay, we probably have, one of the better consistent across sports women's sports programs. That's fair. Volleyball, women's basketball, women's basketball,

even women's softball has been in good, gymnastics. I can't think of anything that I would say. Anything related to like game day experience, but just put us at the bottom of the list. Not even close. Nothing related to game day, nothing related to marketing, nothing related to media. No, we're not at the forefront of anything,

and I would say that we are behind on most things. Would you agree with that? Yeah, I mean, I always thought one of the best things we do is to bring out a former athlete or basketball player to do the Y in Kentucky here. But you think we're the first people, you think we're the only people that bring out former athletes to wave at the crowd? That's about all we do. Every team. We've been doing that.

We've been spelling the Y since the 70s. But what do we do? It's better than that. Nothing. That's it. We don't do anything better than that. Eat your ice cream and listen to Dumas Walker. You know, we still do the confetti

when they announce the eruption zone. We've been doing that for 25 years. We've got, you know, the big flag in the eruption zone. We've been doing that for 25 years. There's nothing we've done new and innovative. I mean, most Kentucky games are when you talk about the thing that they do. I'm not, sometimes our fans bring it.

But most Kentucky games are like a really fun church picnic. It can be fun, but it's a church picnic. You're not like, it's not the place you're taking your friends and be like, here we go. And there's few surprises. I'm singing the songs in Rupp Arena before they even hit play because my body just knows, all right, moni, money, money time. I mean, they did add the snackwards cam. I've enjoyed the snackwards cam.

I enjoy it. I enjoy the snackwards cam. One thing I'll give them. That was a good addition. And I've said this before. Rup in the last four or five years has added more, like, video stuff. Football games have a long way to go on that. But things like the Snackwards Cam, they're trying.

One thing I think we're above average is basketball social media. I will give them that. I actually think they do a pretty good job with those journey videos and that stuff. I actually think that's one thing I would say we are above average. But I wouldn't say we're like, you know, on the cutting edge of any. But I also worry, like if you, let's say Mitch leaves. I mean, you know, Eli Capiludo's been here for 60 years, too. Like, we've also have to have a commitment to trying something new just across the board.

I think they relied on the fact that if we're Kentucky basketball, we're the number one in everything we do. The crowd is going to survive and applaud no matter what we do. Well, I mean, you also have gone completely away from caring about what your fans want. terms of games. I mean, the BBN Classic is a joke, right? We're playing good teams, so I'm not going to act like our schedule stinks, but the BBN Classic is a joke. While all the rest of these teams in the country are playing cool,

and we're never going to. And when I asked about it, we're just like, well, we make more money doing this, you know? And I feel like I've heard Mark Pope cut an ad for some email newsletter that they just came up with. Like, that's the groundbreaking stuff. We now have an email that everyone needs to sign up for. It's true. We have an email. There's like 10 radio ads about sign up for an email. It's like, what are we doing? What year is this?

Yeah. Well, I'm going to ask him to come on. I'm going to put that request in this afternoon, and we'll see what he decides. Tension bourbon lovers. You don't want to miss Commonwealth Causes December bourbon raffle. The next ultimate bourbon collection drawing is on December 18th. Features an incredible $20,000 lineup. Campbellville, right? Henderson. Sorry. I'm going to get that right one day. They have the Pappy Van Winkle vertical.

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I mean, I listen, again, I like this song, but this is just not, I mean, it makes us seem like we're in, like, the middle of the sticks. Hey, we just won. We go, and a bottle of a ski. Like, come on. Here we got our interviewing the star of the game. Otega O.A. Yeah.

We got the spotlight. And we're all focused on what we're hearing behind it. And everybody else, like at these other stadiums are just like blasting music and grinding. And we're like, hey, I got me bottle ski. I do like a slawburger and the Kentucky hit. I love the place. I hate that they catch strays here. They don't deserve it because I like that music.

It's not the moment for it. It's not the moment for it. I really like Hungry Eyes, Shannon. Listen to it twice last night. Yeah. It's a wonderful song. I don't think in that moment we should go, Hungry.

We're not going to run out to Eric Carmen onto the cord or onto the field. One look at you. I just don't think that's the time to do it, at least for me. 859-280-2287. Quickly, yesterday, I got my spotter. Oh, congratulations. They asked me to talk to third. three of them. I didn't know what to say to any of them. So I just called the first. He seemed like

a nice guy and I was like, this one's fine. You didn't even bet the other two? No. The other two didn't answer their phone the first time I called. So they're out. So I got the first guy. He's good. Now, I told him, I said, I have my own stats guy. His name's Billy. And he goes, well, all right, what's his strategy for stats? And I went, doesn't really have one. Never done it before. So, and he goes, well, how about you and Myron? How many games have you all done? None. And he's like, okay, thanks.

He's like, all right, well, this will be fun. I was like, yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun. So I've got my spotter. I've got Billy the stats guy. Tom Hart sent me, you know, you're talking about Tom Leach's card? Yes. Tom Hart sent me his card he had for West. He did Western Kentucky LSU.

Oh, nice. So I have Tom Hart's Western Kentucky card. Oh, my goodness. That's a lot of work. Yeah. Now, apparently this is why it's good to work for ESPN. They got a guy who'll do that for you. You just, I'm supposed to call and say what information I want.

But the answer is I don't know. So I'm going to say, give me the Tom Hart feature. Whatever it is, Tom Hart wants, give me that. But they will make it for you. A huge. So that's kind of. of cool. I didn't know that that's what you get with doing ESPN. And I also learned we're not the only show that's being asked. There's three other shows doing the same thing. So Freddie and

Harry and the morning show and one of the others, I think, are doing. So like, we're not going to be the only ones, but we probably have the least experience. And I put Billy in. Billy better not let me down, okay, because there was some skepticism. They're like, would you like a stats person? I was like, no, I want Billy. So that's nice. Billy's a Western Kentucky Hilltopper alum. Going to take him down for the game. He'll be all over the weather.

But he's got to be like Billy has to be prepared. I'm putting a lot into Billy here because they kind of suggested I needed two people that knew what they were talking about. I said I need one person and a Billy. And a spotter. How long was the conversation with the spotter? Like what do you even talk about? Had nothing to say. What's your vision?

He goes, he goes, what do you look for in a spotter? And I was like, spot. You? You check all the boxes. The kind of thing that you do. Somebody answers their phone when I call. Apparently, Tom Hart, so then I called Tom Hart and asked for advice. Tom said the Superdome where this game is is, quote,

the hardest place to see in college football. Oh, my. He says you're higher up there than you are anywhere else, which we remember when Kentucky played the national championship there. It's way. I wrote on our blog, 3 by Duran Lamb, and someone corrected me, said that was Kyle Wilger. And I'm like, I just two specs down there.

I don't know what you want for me. I'm as high up as I can be. He goes, so you need to bring your own binoculars. So I might have to go buy some binoculars because I don't think I have any binoculars. And he said Billy's going to need his own binoculars too. Be well, B. So bring your own binoculars. But I'm getting excited.

I'm tonight going to start watching my first Southern Misty. Okay. All right. So you can bring this little Scatting Report tomorrow? No, no, no. It's going to take some time. But I've got Wednesday night, Southern Miss. tape beginning.

We'll give you a few days, but we might just have to rattle off some questions on the spot just to test you. You could be mid-conversation about Kentucky, Indiana. We might ask you about the left tackle. I talked to Myron, too, and I'm like, all right, Myron. We were laughing about pronunciations. He goes, I don't want us to get canceled. Let me do the pronunciations.

And I went, fair enough. That's a good point. One less thing off your plate. So he's obviously done games as a sideline reporter. Has he done color before? He has not, he's done play-by-play a couple times, but that's not what they're, he's never done football. He's only done basketball. Okay.

So this is, it's going completely, completely new. Who's next, Shannon? Let's go to Adam. Adam. Adam, go ahead, Adam. Hey, what's up, guys? I've hated this J-M-I deal from the very beginning, and here's why being a former Learfield IM employee, I know what they're all about. at the end of the day

everybody kept saying they're bringing it in-house. It's not in-house. JMI is a third-party entity. That's not in-house. That's true. That's true. I is located in San Diego, California, not Lexington, Kentucky. And at the end of the day, they are looking out

for JMI, not the University of Kentucky. That's why this was doomed to fail from the beginning. I think that's not an invalid point. I appreciate the call. So, like, if you're a college, yeah, you want to make money, but you also want to win games. right? It's obviously going to be better for JMI if we win games because they have a better chance

of making money, but they still have a number one obligation to make money. And, you know, I've gone to JMI over the years and said, you should work with us. Like, we can help you. I can make your postgame show better. And they don't, they're just like, eh, we're good. And I worry if the, eh, we're good. If you do that in recruiting, I don't know if that works in 2006, Ryan.

Eh, we're good. In a world where the number one quarterback in America flips from Georgia to Vandy, I don't know if, eh, we're good, works. So what happens when a coach goes to them and says we need

more money to get this kid, and JMI says no? Can we talk about that tomorrow? Oh, okay. I'm just saying. Okay, we'll talk about tomorrow. Not even if what if the kid wants more money. What if he has an opportunity to go?

get money from another dealership or another. Well, what if a school says to you just theoretically, a school says to you, I'll give you X. Kentucky says I'll give you the same, but the other school says, I'm going to let you go try to find your own money as well, and Kentucky says you can't do that. He's going to the other school.

He's going to go to the other school. And he should. And he should. And that theoretically would be the kind of, thing you would worry about. Darius Miller, when we return right after this, KSR. Another podcast from some SNL, late night comedy guy, not

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