KSR - 2025-12-30- KSR - Hour 1

Episode Date: December 30, 2025

Ryan and Drew talk to special guest former UK standout Willie Cauley-Stein from KSR Bar. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You've got to get out and do stuff. So good crowd here. We're going to be here all day. Got a couple special guests we want to tell you about also. As always, Connecticut Sports Radio sponsored by the T.J. Smith Law Office called T.J. and? He will make them pay, right. We've got our Clark's Pumping Shop phone number.

859-2-87. That's 859-280-cats. We also got the A-Vision Glass text machine. What is it? Oh, oh, boy, here we go. 5027-35-36-80. You nailed it. How about that?

That'll give it up for... I stayed at Holiday Express. A little Drew Franklin. So we've got some special guest today, Drew. Look at who's sitting beside us. Yeah, a little different scenery for me today than just looking at you. Well, you know, with Matt's not here, Shannon's not here, Billy's not here, Michael's not here, Willie Colley Stein shows up.

Let's give it up for Willie Colley Stein this morning who got up. You got up to go on this morning. How is your holiday, big man? Man, 87 degrees. Where? It was 71 here. Yeah, I went from Dallas, right after Christmas flew here, and then got two gorgeous days.

some golf, me some of my buddies, had some good food, and then in 40 degrees cooler the next day was crazy. Ron, are you shocked that Willie worked in some golf over the holiday? Did he just say he plays golf? I feel like my man's about to be on tour at the rate. It seems he's playing these days. You know, these days, I like to say I'm on the lit tour. The lit tour. The lit tour. The lit tour. Two T's. Yes, yes. What is your handicap? Have you gotten pretty good? Yeah, the lowest I've got is like a six, and then I found that you don't win any money at being a six handicapped. There you go. So I went on a hiatus of just trying to play golf and not keep score, and I got it up to like a 10 now.

And now I win, you know, I win. So I'm sitting out a really good spot. Sandbag. Let's show us how much he knows golf. He already knows how to cook the handicapped sandbag a little bit, win some tournaments. You know, I don't know if it's salmon. My game's just not as tight as it used to be. Now, you've been spending a lot of time in Lexton.

You hear a lot this summer. Are you, this a place you're going to find yourself spending more and more of your free time up here? Yeah, I mean, fall goes well this year. When my daughter gets thrown in kindergarten, this is her first year of kindergarten. So we wanted to move back here. And then I just didn't want to move her in the middle of the year and kind of start all over. but I'm hoping by this summer that we get a spot out here and can really start our training program and just obviously golf all the time.

We've got a few courses around here. A couple places I would love to have you. Oh, yeah, some great ones. Showing how much he's got to focus on dad life these days, Ryan. Did you all have a good Christmas? Did you put some toys together? Are you the one that does the family shopping? I am not the one that does that.

I'm the one that's like, can we just give them a bottle to play with? or a stick well boys are easy boys you give them a cardboard box some tape they're set for days days yeah no they had a great Christmas I'm sure they're already done playing with the toys that we got them so

it's always good now last time you're on here somebody did send me a message I said ask Willie about his personal life does he have children we know and married where you what do you see for your future you kind of already got in some of those answers how many kids do you have now I got three. I got a, my oldest is my daughter, Kendrick.

She's five will be six in July. And twin boys, that will be three next, what, February? This February. I'm joining the Girl Dad team in May. You got any tips for me? Or April. I got to learn the dude. Man, it's.

When's the baby dude? April. You better get that right. I'm going to be ready by April. It's a great, I don't know, man. it's a good feeling like it makes you a little softer a little mushyer and so i'm already real soft you'll just you'll just be like watching the tv show and next thing you know you just start crying you're like what the hell am i crying for but yeah man they just make you a little more in tune with what's

going on in your emotional side so um i would say enjoy it until they get about five and then she turns like five to 15 real quick yeah and you're like what just happened to my baby girl why He's so mean to me. So you're wanting to move up here. They'll go to school up here. All your kids will end up going to school here in Lexington. Yeah. Yeah.

I love that. No, it's the plan. I'm definitely trying to get out here in this next year. What about you said you want to get into your training? Is that kind of your future? You see yourself doing that and get a facility here? Yep. Working with D. Mills, honestly.

And, yeah, man, I had like a little academy, just like a starter, see what we could do, see what it would be fun like is this something that i really want to do every day and bro it was the most like gratifying thing watching like a kid get better in 20 minutes like couldn't hold a ball and after the 25 minutes he's hitting like three in a row i was like oh bro i'll sit here for an hour and a half and watch you shoot the same shot until you can hit five in a row and seeing like the dad kind of spark up after yeah in real time seeing his son get better was like oh yeah this is fun i could i could do this for for a living for sure We had Darius on a few weeks ago to talk about the alumni center, kind of the same stuff,

how you guys have went from being the stars and now training the next generation. Have you done a lot of work out there with some of the former players that seems to be a lot of them been back around and helping out with the youth around here? Yeah, I don't know if you guys remember. He was a manager of ours, Michael Stump, when I was here. It was also my roommate at the lodge. but he's one of my partners in it and so he lives in Indiana

and he's got his own little group that he's training there for now and then he plans on getting out here like in the next couple months and really do it every day and I'll just come in like for a week out of time every month and kind of put my stamp on it like that until I could get out here every day with him

but other than that I hadn't got to really wean Yeah We were like I just met him yesterday but I seen him in there working When we was in there and I was like oh you got a good Clientail base like what you know help help me out a little bit Yeah

Let's see what we can do together so The next time I come in We got like Academy at the end of July that we're gonna Or in the January that we're doing again In like a day camp in Somerset So we got some things cooking So you got twin boys They're probably going to end up going to play in basketball

Do you see yourself coaching them in the future or just training them? I would, I would coach them. Yeah, I would coach them. It's so tricky when you have kids. Like you don't necessarily want to coach or train your kids, right? But like, I don't know, I guess I'm in a little different spot where I wouldn't probably would anybody else to train them. But I don't know, there's this, it just depends on how they take it.

You know, some kids shut down when their parents try to tell them things. and then some perspective and they understand what's going on. Like my daughter with golf, I can't tell her what to do. Used to that. She loves to do it. She loves to go out and play, but, like, I have to trick her into, like, doing what I want her to do. Is that 5 to 15? I'm telling you, bro, like, when we first started, she was really into these.

Like, we were in Italy, and I would take her. She's probably, like, two or three. I would take her to go hit balls with me. and I would have to bribe her with these chocolate-covered Oreos. I'm like, okay, if you can hit five of them in a row, I'll give you a chocolate-covered Oreo. But, you know, I've had other athletes say the same thing, you know. Obviously, you guys know the game, but your kid responds better to somebody else. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And my son's, one of them, Jacks, he's a natural. Like, he already has, like, a good, like, I don't really have to show them basketball things. Like their mother watches basketball all day long. So I'm like, we probably know they're going to be hoopers. Let's like let them not be hoopers for their first 10 years of their lives because it's going to be hoops when it gets down to the gritty of it. So I'll be trying to show them all types of other stuff. Music, art.

They're very artistic kids, man. They love coloring on my walls and chairs. You know what? That sounds like a young Willie that showed up on campus. That's what I'm saying. I just let them. I'm like, you know what? We'll paint it.

over it. It'll be all right. Let's see what you got going on. I remember writing those blog posts about an artistic freshman Willie Collie Stein showing up on campus. On a skateboard. Yeah, something about an apple and a tree there. We kid about the golf and how you're chasing a pro career, but you really are passionate about it, talking about taking your daughter. When did you get into that? Was it still when you were playing basketball? You mentioned a little bit in Italy there. Yeah, no, it was probably my last, what, three years in. I had started, it when I was here actually, right before I left

one of my best friends' mom is I mean phenomenal golfer, teacher does the mental coaching. So she got me into it. She was like, hey, you should start golfing after your career. You can make a lot of money for it.

And I was like, okay, yeah, whatever. This is one I had the boot on? So I'm out there like eating balls with his boot. and terrible form, but it was fun. And then I went to Sacramento, and we lived right by a driving range. And so it became, like, kind of a routine game days. We'd go there, hit balls, chill out, and kind of help me with my free throws. So then I started, like, feeling, like, this connection of tempo and, like, just being, like,

in a serenity spot of, like, I don't know, nothing matters in that moment. So I just kind of kept it going. We moved. I didn't pick up my clubs again until I moved to Texas. And when I went to rehab, all we had was a putting green. So we were out there chipping around, putting. And I was like, damn, this is kind of fun. And there's like a camaraderie about it.

And when I left there, my neighbors was like, hey, man, do you golf? And I'm like, yeah, I got golf close. We went, kicked my ass, and I was like, that's when the pro kicked in, right? I haven't. I haven't stopped golfing since that day. It's been, like, legit four years now. And I probably golf more than I don't golf. I've never heard anybody say that, that learning to play golf helped you at your free throw shooting by getting in that same headspace.

But I guess it is kind of the same. Oh, it's the motion zone. Yeah. What do you call it? The motion zone. What does that mean? The eye of the tiger. Okay.

Oh, I didn't need to know about this. Yeah. The motion? Motion, yeah. Okay. It's like, I don't know, if you ever felt yourself in a moment of, here's a perfect example. You ever been driving around and you drove seven miles and you were like, how did I just drive seven miles? You're in the motion zone.

Like, your body's just doing it. And then you realize that you were driving and stopping at stoplights and turning signals and like, but I don't even remember. I was cognitively driving these last 10 miles and stopping every time. Somebody break check and, like, that's the illusion zone. Oh, when I forget some of my golf rounds, I thought it was the 12 transfusions I had, but I guess I was maybe just in the emission zone. I don't do that while driving around town, just on the golf course. Of course, of course.

You're on the Litt Tour. That's right. But it helped you. It helped your basketball. It did. It did. It did. And I learned that from Steph, honestly.

At that time, I was really watching Steph get down on the golf. I was like, there's got to be some correlation to it. And Betty, she actually, that's my friend's mom, she actually came out to Sacramento and hooked me up to, like, there's this program that you're like, that trains you to get into the motion zone to shoot free throws. And it was like a very weird video game. But it was, like, it worked to help.

We got to get you in the motion zone, Ryan. I know what I'm kind of fascinated by this. Just think of this potential we could unlock. Like, you know, my free throw shooting could have been drastically improved. So how much did it improve? Like, you know, percentage-wise, or did it make a big jump? Or does it progressively get better as your years went on? I would say that it progressively got better.

But it probably was a big jump, too. I mean, as a guy that got to shoot, you know, four times every three games, like I think that it's hard to kind of justify what your free throw percentage is. Like, if I'm only getting five chances to shoot free throws in six games, and you miss two of them, you know what I mean? You got a bad free throw percentage. So, like, to me, it was the comfortability getting up to it of not thinking about I'm a bad free throw shooter. I'm a good free throw shooter. I'm just a free throw shooter.

Just shoot the damn ball. A friend of the program, Josh Teeter, a PGA tour golfers texting and about setting up some foursums on the lit tour. We'll have to put Willie to the test against a PGA pro if we can set that up. Yeah. He's listening right now. Maybe he gets in the moochin zone on tour. Let's get him in some more gear. We've got Willie Colleystein here joining us, and we've got another special guest.

Wukosh is driving around here somewhere. I think he's going to join us also today. Me, you're in the Twin Towers. The Twin Towers coming in, two seven-footers and you and me. You're on a Kentucky's Portrait. We'll take your phone calls as well. Today's your call if you want to call and talk to Willie, ask him a question. He's here to answer your thoughts, and he'll be here until, what did you say, about 1130?

Yeah, 11, 1130? Is that somewhere in there? Okay. 859-280-2-87. We'll be right back. Ryan Drew and Willie Colley-Stein here on Kentucky Sports Radio. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind.

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lines open right now. If you want to call and ask Willie a question, 859-2802-287, that's 859-280-cats. Clark's Pubem Shop phone number. I don't know if you guys saw all the news or not, but kind of a sad day in Lexington. Oh, no. I already know what you're going to say, Ryan, don't bring it up.

Tally Ho. Closing. Look, Casey's eyes lit up. Like, what? Yeah, it hurts. It hurts. Closing. Tully Ho, effective tomorrow, is closing for good.

What? It's been open since 1971. Did you have some late night? Well, of course, if you're a UK student or you've lived in Lexington and gone out late at night, somehow you ended up at Tully Ho. Especially the basketball team. They didn't live too far away from the real spot. Yeah, the OG.

Well, they've moved around last couple years. Couldn't settle on a good spot. So finally, closing their doors, the first time since 1971. Kind of a somber day in Lexington, I believe tomorrow will be Drew when they shut their door for the last time. You know, I'll admit, I'm part of the problem. I haven't been in many years. Once they left limestone over there where you can just walk through the bars. I mean, that became an event after the bars.

I mean, you'd see people there at three in the morning. And then, look up, sun's coming up. You're still at Talleyho. So I admit, I'm part of the people that didn't help keep it alive the last couple of years. It's been bouncing around here on Broadway. I feel like it's been two or three locations. But, man, so many fun memories of being in that place in college and even after college. I wish I had time to get one last Hoberger, but I won't be able to make it over there.

But anyone that went to UK, especially when it was at that limestone location for many, many years. You've been in Talleyho at least once and have fun memories there, Willie included, I'm sure. Oh, many nights? Some I don't remember. I remember going in there. I don't remember leaving. What was your favorite? Like, what's your go-to?

I used to get, looking back in my order that I would be getting at 3.30 in the morning after drinking Red Bulls and beer all night, I can't believe I would put it in my body, but I would get like the whole burger with cheddar tots. And then that wouldn't be enough. So, of course, I needed a milkshake. Yeah. And then I might look up and see a pancake and suddenly start craving breakfast. So it was the most extreme orders that I would never get at normal time of day for a normal meal. But it was just give me all the calories.

Also, lots of just scenery. The people watching. Oh, the people watching. Occasionally you'd get a fight. But most times people were happy in there. But honestly, a lot of times it was like Kentucky basketball player sightings in there. Willie, I'm sure you walked in many times and people have lost their minds because here comes the team walking in. Oh, yeah.

No, it's great. I used to get the biscuits and gravy. Oh, of course. I forgot. That was my side item with my top. Hasprows on top. Oh, yeah. You go at 3 in the morning after the bars or when you wake up hung over from the night before, go for breakfast and brunch the next day. I hate that it's disappearing, but, you know, like I said, it's our own fault. You know, if we don't go, this is not as good as it used to be.

I hate that it had to leave live. Just the prime location there with bars around. My first year at UK, I lived right over here across the street at Royal X. And I was at Talley Ho, way too late one night, probably eating business. biscuits and gravy and Ramel Bradley was there. Yeah. You know, I'm new to Lex, and it's like my first time having a celebrity siding in town.

So I had Ramel sign my napkin, and I took it home to my roommate who was asleep and gave it to him as a gift. Wow. And he framed it. So we had a framed Talley Ho napkin in our apartment at Royal X from Ralph Bradley. What are some of your fan interaction memories from Tali Ho or being on campus? Like what's some crazy things you signed or did or ran into somebody? And remember, we're on radio.

So radio from the first. That's true. Yeah, yeah. You know, on campus, not too much, great. Just a lot of pictures. Them signings get crazy, though. When we went on them autograph tours, that was probably the coolest thing that I'd been a part of. Just, like, pulling up to a random place I've never been in Kentucky,

and there's thousands of people waiting out, wrapped around the block. I'm like, oh, this is crazy. This is what it's about. And then like genuinely like caring about each person that walks through. Like I think that was probably the coolest thing to me was like really having like that 30 second interaction with the person coming through. And they want to tell you everything in that 30 seconds. And you're just trying to hold it in there like, dude, I really like what you got going on.

And person has me signed their baby after. You signed a baby? I signed a baby, dude. I signed a baby, dude. I didn't want to do it, but I had to do it just based off the movie. I'm like yeah I'll sign the baby but I don't feel comfortable about signing your kid right now and I had a couple people get like my face tattooed on their thigh I was about to bring that I have pictures on my phone because that guy came to our show he had it on his thigh at too yeah a girl she had it

was the first one she came in there had showed it to me I was blown away she had me sign it she came to the next signing like two days later and she added like my signature tattooed on her then I was like, oh, you're cool. That's pretty cool. Other than those tattoos that we remember in signing a baby, any other crazy stories? Oh, man. There's probably a lot of them. Remember one of your teammates? Wasn't there someone

like licking Devin Booker's car? That was weird. Oh, there was lickers. Yeah, it was liquors out there. Was your car okay? I don't think they wanted to lick that Saturn, man. Saturn? Yeah, he had a nice little, like, what do you have, a Challenger or something? Like, yeah, you know, look at the challengers a lot.

I'd rather lick a Challenger than a Saturn View. If you drove by the lodge right now, not a lot of Saturn's out there. Times have changed just a little bit. It's a nice new parking lot with some fancy vehicles. You bummed about missing out on that era by a couple years? I think about it every day. I'm like, how can I still get it? Yeah. How can I? That's why I started the golf brand. Like, that's why I'm like trying to like come back out here and really work because, I mean, it's just the opportunity to really like, especially for a brand standpoint, like, there's not another place that the fans care about our well-being in, like, this place. And, like, they want to attach to the culture that you're bringing.

And you want them to be a part of your culture. So, like, coming back and doing what D Mills is doing and doing what I'm doing, I hope more guys, like, you see errands coming back more. I hope more guys, like, realize, like, the opportunity of life after basketball here is booming. Like you can start businesses out here and you know you got a support like that that could be sustainable out here and Um growing this culture is what it's about growing the city is what it's about so that's where I've been at since I've entered my 30s. It's just like how can I how can I make the community better and how can I like give back to the to the youth? He acts like he's an old man. He's in his 30s. Do you hear that?

Just setting up my old man. Now that I'm in my 30s. Yeah. He's just opening that book. Wow. So, all right. We'll take a break. Come back.

Take some phone calls. 859-2802-287. That's a Clark's Publish out phone number. You want to call and ask Willie a question? If you ever saw Willie at Tully Ho at 3 o'clock in the morning, what did Willie sign for you? Yeah, please. We want to hear some of that. Let's hear some stories.

I miss that girl in there and stream out the orders. Like, I got a Swissburger for Stephen. She's a rock star. She's calling names. The whole virgins. You'd ring the bell. Oh, yeah. Wow.

All right. I mean, I can't believe that. Take our break. We'll come back, Kentucky's Forge Radio. All right, welcome back, Kentucky Forge Radio. We mentioned earlier that Matt, Shannon, Billy, and Mario all off this week with the holidays. So Ryan and Drew holding down the fort. Unacceptable that they did that to us.

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but sometimes we see too much of each other this time of year, and you just need to get out. You need to get out. Get out of the house a little bit. So come out to KS. Bar and Grill, and we appreciate all you people coming out here this morning. We got some bowl games today, too. We do have a couple of bowl games.

Come watch Tennessee. They're in our favorite ball game. The music football. In Illinois? Yeah. They just played basketball in Nashville a few weeks ago. Now they're playing football in Nashville. That's crazy.

I want to ask you guys a little situation here, because John Calopery is kind of right in the middle of it. North Texas football had a really good year. For North Texas, they went to a bowl game, like one of their best seasons ever. But now, like, nearly their entire starter and starting unit has entered the transfer portal. That's where the transfer portal is good. These guys maybe got under-recruited out of high school. They have a good season in a mid-major.

Then they get to maybe jump up to a major college. Well, some comments that Cala Perry made, like last summer. I think he made these, like, during the summer, saying that the transfer rule, Transfer portal is good, but you should be able to transfer for free one time, but then after that, if you transfer again, you have to sit out a year. It's picked up some steam with this North Texas thing going on. Where do you sit on both topics? North Texas, the transfer, all the people that are bolting out of there, and about what Caliperi said.

Well, I agree. I think everyone seems to agree. We just have utter chaos right now. And the NCAA, I don't know if you saw, gave a statement to Jeff Goodman yesterday about this NBA stuff. and they're basically like we can't do anything about it like we need help like they're just getting sued left and right and they've thrown their hands in there and they're basically admitted that they're not doing anything right now and i don't know if you saw it but last night your boy cow went on a great rent i watched it twice i i was going to make a note to play it here but it's like

nine minutes long it would take up a whole segment but i agreed with everything he said and he was cooking it was in a press conference and he's yelling about just how out of control it's gotten and he's talking about how he didn't call him by name but now we have trenton flowers who has played in an NBA game this year. It's talking about going back to college, and Cal just lost it. And I agree with everything he said. You know, he's actually, you know, for some of the flaws Cal has,

I think his messaging and all this, he's been right on it. Make him the commissioner or put him in charge of this because he has the right attitude. What you said, he thinks you should bail transfer once. Yes. Or if you have a coach leave, that's different circumstances. Otherwise, if you're transferring, sit out a year like you used to, and his big thing was if you ever entered the draft, I don't care if you're from, even says,

I don't care if you're from Russia, wherever. If you've entered the draft, no, you cannot come back. That should just be an easy rule that has gotten lost and thrown out the window, and now no one is even trying to monitor or have any laws around this right now. Willie, what do you think? I'm indifferent. Yeah, I'm indifferent. Because you see it from a different perspective.

You're a player. Yeah, I mean, if they're going to let you come back, and there's no rules, like, why shit, I want to come back? You know what I mean? I got eligibility. Like, what's the stipulation on that? Like if he's already played a game, then it doesn't matter if I played 500 games in there. It's like if he can go back, why couldn't a guy like me go back?

So that's when it gets tricky. When do you say their cutoff is for a kid to be able to go back into college and finish whatever he's got going on? But then there's the side of it too. It's like next man up. Like you've got young kids that are trying to get on and get in that situation that, you know, now there's no scholarships for him or there's no, you know, spots that they could get to a better, you know, situation for themselves. So it's a tricky. It definitely is wild, wall, west.

But with Cal, you kind of started that. Like, you were the one that wanted us to get paid all this time, right? Now it's happening, and I'll be seeing them talk about now kind of like the other side of not liking that. Interesting. And it's like, bro, but it's always been the thing. You always thought we should get paid. So, like, now that you're actually having to divvy up money, It feels a little different that you have to pay these kids,

but they're professional student athletes now. So it's just hard to, like you said, that NCAA doesn't know what the hell they're doing. So how do you navigate this? Like even how do you begin to even think about how you, it's a very confusing thing, but it's like, I don't know what you do at this point. So Cal's big thing was I'm not trying to take money out of anyone's pockets.

He's like, I want them making money. but we've made it to where there's an incentive to go get an international guy because apparently there's no rules like if you play pro overseas now but if you know played in the NBA that shouldn't be a difference but he's like now no one is getting high school kids and it's taking away opportunities from that senior in high school and then with the transfer in everywhere he's like sure these guys make money in four years but willie is you probably learned over the years in the NBA

you know you see that big dollar amount but that can go pretty quick and these kids in the pro or in college right now Now, that seems like a lot of money when they leave and they have no attachment to these schools. They're not getting a degree because they're transferring so much, and they weren't good enough to go pro. They're learning the hard way that that was just a quick, you know, quick paycheck while you're in college. You have nothing for your future set up, not a degree, not a school that appreciates you, not a town that appreciates you. Willie mentions, you know, what a good community you have where you can come back to Lexington and set stuff up, help kids. But these guys that are moving school to school, there's just no connection there.

You didn't build no loyalty in that. came by for a year. So that's Cal's big message, which is just, you know, he's saying he's pro-kid. Make your money, but also the system has taken away opportunities. And it's not the kids. It's the system. Like, if the system's allowing me to do that, why the hell would I not do that? Like, why wouldn't I go to the biggest bidder and transfer every year if this team's

going to give me more money? It's like, like you said, at the end of the day, I might not go to the league. I might not have a job set up. So getting the max amount of dollars you can for them, well, shoot, that. I was playing now. I would go six years. I'm going to like be a doctor. Chad Baker-Mazara. Well, that's the thing. Most of these guys aren't good enough to truly make it in the NBA. So they're cashing in now. But they're getting that mindset that that's going to be there when they leave college.

And that phone's not ringing. I think like my whole thing that I wish that even like for myself, like I was, I'm just now catching on to the financial literacy of things. And I blew through everything that I've ever had. So now I'm like working it back up and trying. trying to do it the right way. But it's like with the guys now making so much money, they needed like these, I think each school should teach them financial literacy and then make funds for them so they could put all their money together as a team and go get investment properties and start building portfolios

of like some real financial literacy that Cal was telling us about, yeah, but when you don't have money and he's just telling you like, this is what it should, this is what it's gonna be, like when you leave here and this is like save your money and put it into this have two different financial people like checking each other and you're looking but i don't know any of what you're talking about it sounds great though it sounds amazing but telling me what to do and showing me what to do is a lot different especially at that level where you think you're going to play forever you think you're

going to get a hundred million dollar contract you think so it's like you're not even worried about it until you're you got to worry about it and it's already too late like you don't like at this point there's there's so much financial stuff that i have no idea about that now that I'm not an NBA and I'm not getting a big check I can't afford to pay a financial person to like do that anymore so then once you stop paying them now it's all on you and you never did it before yeah I never paid a bill here in in Kentucky which is one of the biggest things that I hated that they didn't let us live off campus so I never knew what a paying a bill was I never knew what how to like how to budget your money taxes or anything like you don't learn that shit

bro so then like when you when you get thrown to the fire I just I I I I mean, like, it's like, I don't know, I get away from it. Like, I'm like, I literally have no idea what this if it is I'm looking at, I'm just going to put it to the corner. And you put it to the corner, you put it to the corner, and the next thing you know, you're like, you owe $70 grand on your house or something. And you're like, when did I owe that? Like, what happened there?

That is a good point. You know, UK's been, they do such a good job of educating the guys about how to talk to the media, how to handle themselves. But they need to, now they're making money, teach them some financial skills learn how to handle this big paycheck you're starting to get. Teaching them in a way of not telling us. I think that's the whole thing is like, yes, in the league, they tell you they have meetings about, you know, financial stuff,

but it's like one meeting for an hour right after practice in the beginning of the year, you're like, I don't want to listen to what the hell you guys got to say. Like I'm trying to go home and get ready for the next day. But there's a way that they should, like, entice you to want to learn it. Yeah. And the way they present it, you just don't want to learn it. it. You're like, why would I, like, I don't want to do that?

These guys are making a lot of money, though. They need to learn. No, they have to learn it. At this point now, like, if I was making that much money in school, I would have hoped that they would have at least told me about putting it up in, you know, some sort of fun where it's making, you know, every year you're getting $15,000, $20,000 off that, you know, same thing. Yeah. I mean, that's the hard thing about it, though. It's like, how do you teach financial literacy without it being a class or like you should make them take a financial literacy class there should be some sort of they should do it in high school honestly like i i just it's it just baffles me that

like you get here and everything's paid for and somebody tells you where to go and you're living off an alarm clock and then when you leave here that's it's different you know what i mean now you're the alarm clock nobody's telling you where to go nobody's telling you what to do and you're like just totally lost you're like well shit i don't even know what to do where's the manager to come pick up my laundry and watch this for me. And that's not unique to student athlete, not to nerd out on that, but like tech stuff, that gets everybody.

I remember the first time I had, like what they take, how much of what? You know, that's something that should be taught it, not just even before college. That's true. But it is a rude awakening to the athletes

who get that large summit 19. I remember the first year when I did it at 18. 18, yeah. I remember the first year of NIL, there was some stories going around and some players, some of other places where it came April and they're like,

Oh, what? Excuse me? That money you gave me. I have to give some of that back now, and that money was gone. That was a rude awakening for a lot of people. Probably still happening to kids coming in there. Probably guarantee it. Yeah.

All right, well, take our break. Come back. Go back to the phone lines. Got a couple lines open. 859-280-2-287. It's 859-2-80-cats. Ryan Drew and Willie Collie Stein. We'll be right back.

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Tell us about your little hat collection you got going on. Yeah, man, so we started, you know, obviously. I'm a big golfer, so I kind of got tired of wearing the normal golf brands. And I was like, yeah, I'm a fashion designer. I've always, I've always liked, you know, design and art. So combining all three passions and the one thing has been so fun to do. So in something like this, when we talk about building community and starting, like, I'm trying to start a cult following with this golf brand.

And so bringing the UK color ways and like really getting it here. And I want to take over Kentucky first with everything that we do. And it's just like, I don't know, it just looks so good when you see somebody wearing it. You said you looked across the golf course recently, and there's some young man had one of your hats on. Bro, what? It was like the coolest feeling ever. I'm like, damn, what brand is that? You know, at first you're like, what is that?

And you're like, oh, that's my stuff. That's your stuff. Holy shit. So how can people order one? How can they get one? So right now they're at Kentucky Brandon. You can go online, KentuckyBrandon.com. They're on there.

Type in Willie Collie Stein, and it should pop up, or you can go into their store. and golf headquarters in Jefferson County, I think, or Jeffers, yeah. In Louisville? Yeah, around Louisville. They have them in their stores. One, this is putting them in their stores. Nice. I just got a link with Golf Exchange in Florence.

They're putting them in their store. So I'm just kind of trying to plan them in different spots and whatnot and get the just normal, like, blue-collar people in them and, like, flood our socials with, like, you know, just random people wearing it, like nothing, no crazy marketing, no crazy, just word of mouth. I'm just trying to do a real old school guerrilla style. I went out to Santa Con, I think two weeks ago, and was just out there hanging out with people in the snow, handing out hats. Just really trying to build that community like I was talking about.

I'm not just saying this because he's here. I mean, I would lie to him if I didn't like them. But the first time I saw one of these on Instagram, I was like, oh, really nice. Literally jumped out at me. They do, man. do so we got you know obviously these are our first color ways that we got um we did a cream and red version and a black and red version for our very first ones and bro they sold out so quick so we'd be like tripled the order the next time was like i think they're very cool i think they're

going to get off very cool now also i want to talk about before you get out of here you've done a great thing you sponsored a young man here in town talk about that a little bit yeah david um we had a mystery woman, I guess, DM us when we were doing our first week of skills, of our Brickhouse Skills Academy. She's like, you know, for the holidays, we want to sponsor a kid. Do you know anybody in mind? And I was like, absolutely not. I don't, I have no idea.

So I reached out to another friend of mine here, which you guys probably know, Cuba. Oh, yeah, yeah, Cuba. Yeah, coaching at that junior high. It was like, oh, I got the perfect kid. That's my body yard. Yeah, same, same, same. And so, you know, he plugged this in with Dave, and the kid worked hard, man, and it was fun. It was fun to coach him for a couple days.

And, man, he was just sliding around on the floor and couldn't do it. Like, he was athletic enough to do the drills that I really, like, wanted to do with him. But he was just sliding around. I'm like, bro, we got to get you some shoes. So after the first workout, we went to Dix. I got him some new hardens. Bright orange things, too. You know, you've seen him pop right.

he got in there his eyes lit up he's like well we're orange and blue i was like man these are your shoes perfect and i got the looking in and bro it's five degrees outside i'm like bro do you have a winter coat and he's like no i'm like let's get you a winter coat too so the first thing puffer nike puffer jacket right when we pull up there puts it on i'm like yeah bro that looks good didn't look at the price tag by the way i'm like yeah that looks good right man you're being sponsored who cares right yeah I'm like well need some socks too like everybody needs socks so I got them like 24 pairs socks white black but by the end of it I spent like 600 bucks in there and like I don't have 600 bucks right so I'm like I'm like at

the checkout line and the bill comes up and I'm like oh my wife is going to kill me transferred the money in there I'm like God's going to reward me for this man amen got them yeah amen they feel good well they posted some video of it you can see the day you got, little Dave got emotional one time, you know, because you stepped up and did some things for him

that he would never have a chance to own a pair of shoes like that, some hardens and get a winter coat when it's freezing outside right now. So God bless you, man. A little great story. It touched me too, man. When he got emotional,

I'd walk away for a little bit. Like, bro, don't do that to me. Don't do that to me. But, no, that's what's about, your sticker shock will wear off quickly. He'll remember that forever. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What? No, you're going to get it back tenfold. That's how I believe it. You earned your wings, brother, no doubt about it. Well, we appreciate you hanging out with it. I know you got to head out where you said you've got to going up north, going up to. Yeah, Florence. For a golf thing?

More marketing, right? Marketing, yeah. Getting these hats out. Getting these hats out there. And, yeah, I mean, they got some big things playing, though, so I'm hype about going out there and seeing what they got going on. We're going to be in the golf expo from the fifth to the eighth out there, just networking. Just keep on building it. So the hats are Kentucky branded here in town?

Yep. Golf headquarters. Golf headquarters? There's a couple other miscellaneous places around, like, trade on the levee, Cincinnati. Oh, yeah. And then a couple bars there. They got them going up. We're just trying to plug them and everything, honestly, just so people see them.

And they officially dropped. They haven't even dropped on our websites that neither. I'm just trying to plug them in stores right now. Yeah. But after the New Year's, we officially will drop. We have T-shirts that we have with them, too. Those will all officially drop on our Mordigoff website. You can get down on my bio and stuff like that, and you'll see it when it's time.

But as of now, you can get them at Kentucky branded.com. Nice. Appreciate you, man. Thank God bless you for everything you're doing, man. Good, good. Catch up with you again. Always loved. Happy holidays to you, you and your family, and we'll be looking forward to you

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