KSR - 2025-12-31- KSR - Hour 2

Episode Date: December 31, 2025

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NMLS 8259 Equal Housing Lender. NMLS Consumer Access.org Welcome back to the second hour of KSR, Drew Franklin, Ryan Lemon, here at KS Bar and Grill where it is Wingsday and we are counting down to 2026 with some of our favorite 2025 memories. I know we haven't even

got to them yet. We got plenty of time. Yeah, plenty of time. We'll put those on the back burner for because our special guests just joined us. We have J.P. Blevins, former Wildcat. And the off-air stories are as fun as the on-air stories will be, Ron. I think we're going to be in for a fun interview, huh? JP, thanks for joining us. Hey, happy New Year's guys.

The place looks great in here. It's been a while to slept in. But happy New Year's guys. It's great to be here. We need some Blevins up here, don't we? Do we have anything? I found a group team pitcher back there. Okay, good, good, good.

And you signed the door one time you were here with DJ and some of those guys. I think we had you signed the door back there. Okay, all right, yeah. I got to tell you the first time I met, JP. Please. He's a sophomore at Medcalf County, and you guys are playing in the All-A tournament down in Richmond. Oh, yeah.

And you're just committed to Petino, and you're like throwing pasts, driving the lane, throwing past behind your back. I'm like, who is this kid? Who is this? So that's the first time I met you way back when you were a sophomore. Yeah, yeah, no, I committed to Patino as a junior. So maybe.

Maybe we were a junior, okay. It was a junior. But, I mean, I grew up kind of like, I mean, you did. It was like, you know, I was in third. grade when Patino took over and they went on that run and it was the, you know, it got to be the glory years and you know, you get caught up and all that. And, you know, it's like my dad sent me to camp when I was in fourth grade and I was like, man, I don't care what I do in this world. But man, I could play here one day. So that was kind of a wild dream come true and

when Rick actually called. Let's start there because we were on the same path and then you went right and I went left because I also went to Rick Petino's camp. I grew up wanting to be a wildcat. I came to Lexington for summer camp. and then I just didn't stand down as much as you. I was a few years behind you, but Rick didn't offer me. But that's how that put you on the map, right? Your dad's sending up to Lexington for those summer camps? That was a big one.

You know, the other thing that happened, I would go to, back then, you didn't really play on a travel team. You went to these summer camps like Nike, ABCD, five-star. Yeah, right. To five-star in Pittsburgh, and I had a really good camp. There was a guy named Howard Garfinkel, who ran that camp. A legend. And I think he kind of called Rick and was like, hey,

you know you got a guy in your backyard came up here and had a big week and but yeah no great you know it's like going to those camps was it was certainly a big deal too and your first class was you tachshan Desmond Allison Jules Kamara and Todd Tacken that's it right there I got stories on all those dudes which one you want me to carve up we don't just let out all the secrets Desmond's the guy that got most plain time when you guys came in as a freshman he ended up starting as a freshman so people don't realize this when Desmond got to school You know Desmond was given the award of the athlete of the decade in Tampa, Florida.

Now, you think about the athletes that come out of Tampa. He looked like he could play cornerback in the NFL when he showed up at 18. And honestly, he picked the wrong sport. He should have been a cornerback. But he was the most physically ready at 18. Obviously, Tashon had the most upside. His body had to catch up a little bit. But anyway, Desmond was a freak athlete, and rest in peace to my guy, man.

But one of the funniest dudes you'll ever be around. What a clown. You were one of the first commits in that class, as we said, committed to Petino, but then they make the coaching change. What was it like talking to Tubby? Was there any worry that maybe he wouldn't honor it? Or was he pretty quick to say, no, no, stick around? Yeah, that was heartbreaking.

I mean, you know, obviously for the fans, you remember what that was like. You know, we were on top of the world and the king decides to leave. But you, I had recruited, you know, committed to the man, right? So, you know, there was a week of, oh, man, what's this mean? And then, so Tubby and them, you know, they came and watched and certainly said, hey, look, we still want you if you still want to come. So obviously the dream trumped the coach. So that ended up going that way.

I don't think I've ever asked you this. Why did you wear number four? You know what? When I was in Little League, so my idol growing up was Rex Chapman. And I had the number three when I was in Little League. And then I started playing varsity in seventh grade. And there was a senior that had number three. I couldn't really go tell the senior he wasn't wearing three.

So I started wearing four, and I was like, yeah, you know, let me just run it out. Uh-huh, okay. So I did end up with four. And my research, which I admit it was very thorough, right? Yes. I'm a little embarrassed to say I was up so early, just reading up on your whole line. 5 a.m. reading on JP Bowman. But I found some old newspaper clippings from back home in Medcalf County.

One of them said you even had a Rex picture and unforgettable pictures in your bedroom. Is that factual? I did. I mean, you know, I grew up just like everybody else here. I was like, look, you got the hoop out back. He got all the Kentucky posters up, and we live and die in the NCAA tournament games. My dad would get so nervous during NCAA tournament games. This is, like, growing up, like, he'd get in the car and just go drive around.

He couldn't take it. And so, like, for NCAA tournament games, like, my family would get on each other's nerves, because, you know, you miss the shots. Well, we're not going to win. So everyone just swatched it in different rooms. But, like, that's kind of typical to what it's growing up to. That's the family I grew up in. One more thing I read in that newspaper article.

There's no way you remember this, but I have to share it because I loved it. But it was when you committed. And they were just kind of reminiscent on your time in Edmondson. Edmonton. And there's a coffee shop owner who was quoted as saying, this is about the only excitement we've had around here in a while since someone shot my jukebox with the 9mm. That was in the story of you committing to Kentucky.

That really stood out to me. Kind of shows what kind of small town vibe you all had there at Edmonton. Many of us, me, many of us listen, know what it's like those small Kentucky towns. I wouldn't trade it for the world, but nothing's changed in 50 years. There's one stop light, not a lot to do. So I think that's one of the reasons I came up here. I just played ball at the time.

There wasn't a lot going on. It was a cliff in his jukebox. That was the biggest news since someone had shot it up. This is from Sean from A Vision Glass on the A Vision Glass text machine, so I have to read it. When JP was a freshman in Metcalf County, they came to play us at Edmondson County. One of our guards undercut him on a rebound and landed on his head. He was okay and then went out and lit us up for almost 40 that night. Yeah, I thought my career was over.

Do you remember that? Do I remember it? I really thought I was probably never going to play again. I flipped up on my, landed on my head, my back went a weird way. But my brother was a senior on that team, and my brother wasn't really the fighting type. But the first time I saw him lit up when the guy undercut me, so it was kind of some brotherly love. Oh, there we go. Come across the floor a little bit there.

One more from the prolific high school career. We'll do a little fact checking. You tell us if you remember these, kind of like that one. Yeah. Apparently you went to Barron County, and we love Barron County. We have lots of friends from Barron County, probably a rival for you in that area. And according to these newspaper articles I was digging up, they had signs calling you the next Steve Masiello, which, hey, that's me to Steve Mascello.

Great coach at St. John's right now, did great things in Manhattan, former cat. But I think they were implying you would be a walk-on who doesn't play much at Kentucky. And then you scored 41 points, including 17 straight while they were chaining that at you. Do you have any memories of that? The Trojans were always at the top of the list. We want to get the Trojans. We have a mutual friend and my man, Gabe, back in Glasgow. He wasn't holding those signs, right?

You know, so Monroe County was also, you know, one county over. In Monroe County, you know, kind of your eyes are pronounced. A little bit like it is in eastern Kentucky. It's kind of like lack and nice, and, you know, a little bit of that in Monroe County. So they started calling me like diapers when I had the ball in seventh grade. So the whole gym, but they would say it as diapers. stop or so etched in my mind is forever, but I got them too. That was fun.

Were you ever on the receiving end of a Tubby Smith stare down? Yeah, I don't think anyone really escaped those. You could feel them from a mile away. You could almost like fill them out of your periphery. You didn't even have to look. You heard the stomp. You might glance. The best thing to do is just not look over there.

It was pretty serious, yeah. You mentioned the excitement of Rick and how we were all crushed when you left. You know, you're just coming off the two Final Fours, one being a championship. When Tubby takes over and he extends that offer, did you know a lot about Tubby? Was there still an excitement to get involved with a new coach? Obviously, you're a crush that Rick had left, but what was that transition like? Were you, at least there's some excitement in the new guy? Yeah, I mean, look, the dream was always way bigger than the coach, even though the coach was pretty cool when Rick had it rocking.

But, you know, I was a basketball guy, so I knew Tubby was an assistant here. I had, you know, I was an SEC guy, I'd watched them at Georgia, and, you know, they were winning games down there. So, you know, look, you're going to offer me a scholarship to play here, man. I'm in. I don't have to do a lot of things. Could have been anybody. It could have been anybody. New head coach Ryan Lemon.

I'm in. I'm in, I'm in, coach. So when you were freshmen, the seniors were who, Scott Padgett, Wayne Turner? Yeah, and his Shimu Evans. Hashimu. Yeah, those guys, obviously had come off a national title the year before. And so those guys were the seniors. and, man, they were an awesome group.

Got to be by Michigan State in St. Louis, I think. Elite eight? Elite eight? Yeah. Yep, that was a tough one. But, man, what a run those guys had. What a career they got to go experience and, you know, hanging some SEC titles

or a national title, man. What a run those guys had? Disappointed you didn't get a taste of Final Four? Well, my friends always said I was kind of the downfall. It was like when you arrived, you know, down hills. I was going to ask what you all were missing to get the Final Four, but you didn't want to call yourself out.

We could have had better guard. way, yeah. We had a better backup point card, maybe. No, but, you know, just the thrill of a lifetime, man. You know, and I always say, like, man, you know, you grow up here and you learn a lot of lessons about chasing that dream. And honestly, like, chasing that dream to me will always be cool that I put the jersey on, but really, they're a real gift.

The one that stays with you is when you're chasing something that big of kind of who you have to become the process of that. And I think, like, every major lesson that I ended up. taken to the business world I really learned from the court you know you you truly learn like what is it the difference of being interested in something and actually committed to something it's the you know it's the daily discipline of work ethic you know it's the how do you bounce back when you know you get your butt handed to you yeah you got to build some mental toughness and resilience

and how do you become selfless you know winning with the team is far greater than personal achievement and later in business are you celebrating your colleagues and your clients as much as your own personal. Like all these things just seem to go back kind of to the cord. And the actual arrival is fleeting. But that stuff stays with you. The friendships stay with you. So those have been the greatest prize.

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but they're listening to us right now. Here to get those wings. Yeah, Rick, you said we had one call. I want to go ahead and get to that in case they have a question for JP, and if it's unrelated, maybe he'll answer it anyway. So let's get to who's up next. Then we'll get back to the interview with him. Okay.

Corey is up next. Corey, what's up? Thanks for calling in. Hey, what's going on, everybody? I do have something for JP, but first, do you think, oh, it's not a question. It's more of a statement. But first, do you think Mark Pope has,

for his New Year's resolution to retain? some of his recruiting class and point guards because the Caden Lewins is tearing it up at Villanova. I think he would be a big help right now. I think he's averaging 13 points and five assists. That's nuts. That's what we lost. That's true. Did you have a statement for JP also?

I did. I have a slight disagreement, JP. We have had a little change into Edmonton in the last 50 years. We got a traffic light. Hey. Oh, big news. It goes all three colors now. You used to only blink red.

Flashing light. Yeah, we used to have two red flashing lights. Now we have one that changes color. Hey, moving on up, baby. Love it. Yeah. But yeah, I was in elementary school. I was in elementary school.

Ebenson Elementary. Your mom was my teacher. I was a big fan of you back in your high school and all that. I'll follow you for a while, man. But hey, go Hornets. I'll get off here. Let you guys continue the conversation. Very good.

Appreciate the call. Sorry, I almost cut you off before you can shout out as mom being the school teacher there. And go Hornets. How about that stop? Have you seen this? You know about it? I knew about it, guys. This is big news. It's huge. We got the jukebox. We got the light.

2026, look out. Where are we eating in Medcaf County? Anywhere you want to shout out? Okay, somebody on the AVision Glass text machine said, Ask JP if you ever ate at the Lighthouse restaurant in Metcalf County. I did. The Lighthouse is awesome. If you want biscuits and gravy and some old country ham,

the lighthouse is your spot. That sounds so good. To the point about the Cain Lewis, where we get back to this, that was a big loss. Big recruit. He's right, he's getting 13 points a game for Villanova. The problem there was Lewis was going to be the second year plan, and then when they went and got Jalen Lowe as a backup with two years of eligibility,

that kind of threw things off, and Lewis decided to go elsewhere. But you're right, he is playing well for Villanova. As we're looking for a backup point guard, it had been nice to have that freshman. It's been nice to have him sitting there. Yeah, carry on. We mentioned that your senior year was Team Turmoil. Yes. Skipping right to it.

Can you clear up the air? what happened on that air, that flight, that the fight happened? There's a bunch of rumors out there. Well, tell me what you think happened, and I'll tell you what happened. We'll play more fact or fiction.

This is the story that most people agree with, that Gerald Fitch and Corey Sears were fighting each other like trying to get leg space, and it escalated into a fist fight, and they had to do emergency landing in Knoxville. Partially true. Okay. So, yes.

My man, Gerald Fitch and Corey Sears were sitting across the aisle from each other, and there was no love loss between those two. Let's just say that. Just in general. Yeah. So, you know, Gerald had some skittles in his hand, and he was kind of pitching him across and hitting Corey in the back of the head with the skittles. And my man, Corey said, after taking about three to the back of the head,

he hit me with one more skittles, and I'm coming across the aisle. and my man threw a green skittal and hit him in the face and my man came across the aisle and it was on there we go so we yes emergency landing uh we're taking her down here and we're separate yeah anyway that is partially true well i'm glad you settled it because i always heard it was they were fighting over leg space skittles skittles fighting over skittles drew yeah you've alluded to that a few times saying leg room it's good to know there was the sugary candy that almost brought down that team but what else happened in team turmoil that you

can tell us. Man, I don't know. It's like, you know, how much of this is fair for real. I will tell you this, you know, that team had a chance to be really, really good. So if you remember Jason Parker, Tashon was a senior. Yeah. You know, you had Keith Bogan's was a junior. Chuck Hayes was a sophomore.

And Jason Parker was absolutely annihilating people in the summer before that year started. And so if you had him down low, like, look out. Yeah. And when he tore his ACL up and, you know, some things started going sideways and it just got off the rails. He tore it up during, right before Madness, right? In the locker room or something? Were he jumping up and down with you guys? He was kind of shadowboxing, you know.

It's another factor fiction. Yeah, that's a little shadow boxing with a few of the guys, you know. And it just went down. In the locker room. In the locker room. Before madness. Correct. Wow.

That's correct. What an unfortunate fluke injury. Probably one of the biggest in school history on that one. There is a positive memory I wanted to bring up from that group. It's about one of your teammates, but I noticed the IQ it took. When Tayshan was hitting five threes, you were the starting point guard that game. You're out there running the offense. But on that fifth one from half court, you said, I don't even need to bring the ball up.

We'll let him bring it up. He pulls from the logo, which we all remember well. And I watched it again last night. You're in the corner. You throw both arms in the air. You might have been more excited than every fan in the building when that fifth three went in. But everyone knows that iconic run by Tashon, and you were right there next to it. I was always playing chess, Drew.

I mean, you know, look, let him bring the ball at this time. He seems like he's doing all right. A little bit of a heat check. So no kidding, though, like it's not even close. When the fifth one went in, this is as loud as I ever heard Rupp Arena. And it was truly, you just knew it was one of those special moments that, you know, wasn't going to be recreated. And, you know, to this day, I think for people that have attended Rupp,

a lot of them talk about Shaq back in the day. when they came in, when a lot of them talk about that, that fifth three going. I mean, you know, my buddy was in the, this is a great story, so my buddy was in the upper deck. He had taken two Carolina fans, and they were wearing Carolina stuff. And he told him, like, this isn't a good idea. Like, you're sitting in the upper deck, you're wearing Carolina gear. And he's like, I will be all right. When the fifth one went in, there was a, like, grandma behind them that almost headbutted them.

And so you should hear him tell this story. he got head-butted by a grandma in the upper deck when the fifth one went in. It does not surprise me at all. Well, I was there on Press Row. In fact, the only time I just spontaneously stood up and started clapping. Yes. Because it was, man. It was just an unbelievable moment.

It definitely is one of the loudest moments ever at Rupp Arena, ever. Yeah, no doubt. Yeah, it was just one of those moments she'll never forget. The man had the look in his eyes, and it was his time. Did they old shruggy shoulders? like I can't miss. Uniforms are a hot topic now because they just announced denim's coming back later this season.

But I'm pretty partial. You all had one of my favorites. I don't really know how to describe it, but you kind of had that varsity, curved, iconic lettering, a little stripe down the side. Did you all, did you appreciate them as much as I do in hindsight, one of my all-time favorites? And did you all ever work in an alternate or change up your look a little bit back then?

You know, we didn't. I'm probably not the right guy. If you want to talk sneakers and uniforms, I'm pretty kind of not in my world. But I did have the denim kicks back in the day growing up when those were going. And I, you know, like, you know how they received a little bit of, you know, there was kind of some negativity with those. Oh, yeah. I was in.

I was in from the beginning. I liked them. So now it's really cool that they're going to bring that back. You've kind of taken on a new role the last couple of years as not just a former player, but you were also kind of an advisor of sorts to Cal. How did that relationship develop? and what exactly did you do for help for him? Yeah, no.

Yeah, so let me just, I kind of just tell you the story. So, you know, I got to know Cal. I had a great run in North Carolina. I was down there with some guys playing the game at a really high level, some people I'm really thankful for, and we had a great business run down there. And one of the things we did is we spun off a venture fund called Canopy, and Cal was an investor.

So I got to, you know, I was in North Carolina, but I knew a little bit of Cal. And so when I moved back, basically Cal calls me up and says, hey, I want to come talk to you. I'm sure coach. So he comes down and basically he says, look, this NIL thing is hitting a different gear. It's like, what do you mean, coach? He's like, well, look, I kind of hate it all.

But what I've done in the past is we would go out and have these summer camps, and then we would just pass that money out socialistically across all the players. And then the dudes that were packing the mail could go get their own deals. Oscar would go get his deal. Kason Wallace would go get – and I don't have to worry about it. And that's great. But he said, times are changing. And here's what I mean by that.

you know I've got these guys coming in so this was Reed was coming in Dillingham was coming in Wagner and Justin Edwards and he's like I got some mama calling me saying coach what you're going to do for me and he's like well you've got the Nike contract you got the Panini they're like no no no no what are you going to do for me so he's like I got I got to raise some money so I told coach look I don't want to see any money I got a lot going on I can't handle anything administratively but I'm happy to put some guys in the room and he wanted to kind of have a tight-knit group that, you know, every 30 days hung out and did some things,

and they put up some money, and really just kind of helped him as he was trying to just band-aid this thing and figure it out. Yeah. Because. It was new to everybody. It was new to everybody, and he was just trying to figure it out. So, yeah, no, yeah, honestly, you know, in Cal and I still have a great relationship. And he's on a roll right now, by the way, too.

He's throwing some zingers out there. Yeah, he is. The other night, he was on fire. It was like eight minutes of ranting about the current state of NCAA. We mentioned that yesterday during the show. He's also got a couple of stud freshman guards that he needs to. That's why they're looking so good. And that A-Cuff did.

Dude, doesn't start. Does he still start DJ? He brings A-Cuff off the bench? He does. But, you know, Cal, I was going to bring this up today. We'll save it for Friday. But I've re-ranked the SEC today on KSR. It's a lot different than the preseason poll.

But I wrote a little bit about Arkansas. Cal does, we're not here to talk about him and that team. But he does have some of his dudes that he needs to have a good year. You know, one of the things, though, I will tell you that I talk to Cal a lot about during that time. Is he counting down? I'm sorry, I just heard that. Yeah. Well, I have to take a quick break.

Great job. Yeah, you want to host. I heard the 10. Well, we'll keep you around after this break. It's Drew and Ryan and J.P. Blevins. We'll be right back. This is KS.R. This is not Matt Jones.

This is Drew Franklin. Matt's off enjoying a little vacation during the holiday season, but I'm here with Ryan Limit at KS Bar and Grill. And we have former Wildcat J.P. Blevins with us. Ryan, we were going to do two segments with JP, but we've been really. and having fun, so we're sticking around. We were also going to list our favorite moments of 2025, and I'm now realizing it is 1134.

I might have over-planned for today's show. We can do it Friday. We need some stuff, some material for Friday. Yeah, so January 2nd, we'll close the book on 2025. Why not? Yeah, we don't want to interrupt this. This is great. And we had fun in the first hour.

I blew your mind with the second ball drop, but I still don't think you've fully processed. No, I've not. But we're glad to have JP for one more segment, looking back on his time. at Kentucky with Tubby, and then what he's doing this day and age still help the program. We mentioned you've had some success after basketball, and you've been big in giving back to UK. You mentioned just the importance of what it was your career and even your career outside of basketball,

but just how much is important to you to give back and still be a part of this operation years after you were on the court? No, thank you. It is important, but let me just say this. I've had a few things go my way in the business world, and certainly I give myself for credit for taking some risk and trying to work really hard. But, man, my story is full with a lot of grace, right time, right place. I got around some amazing people doing things at a high level.

If my grandkids asked me what I got right, I'd tell them I followed a man named Chip Mahan. I bet on the right horse. And, you know, sometimes when you get around people like that that are taking three companies, this guy's from Frankfurt, Kentucky, he's taking three companies, I think he's one of the top three entrepreneurs to ever come out of Kentucky. Getting exposure to people like that who are playing the game at a high level,

but also are good human beings that are actually honoring their marriage, are good of their family, are good to their people. You're watching them handle wealth well. You know what it means to give. And, you know, when you're around people like that, hopefully some of that rubs off. But, man, I've always kind of thought, and I've got a chance to be around some people that have handled it really well. It's like, man, it just seems like the happiest people that have also had some things break their way are some of the biggest givers.

And it's almost like, man, when you're giving to something that's bigger than you, it just does more for your heart and soul that, you know, any personal achievement can really do. And so hopefully I can do a lot more of that. But yeah, it is important to me. but, you know, I will always say, man, I got around some really great folks and was a big part of my launching pad. With your contributions and still being around, I'm sure you're pretty locked in as a fan these days, too. Oh, yeah. So I moved back, and that's where, you know, Cal and I really started connecting as you know, I spent 10 years in North Carolina.

I had a great run down there. Little bank I was a part of went public and became a chief revenue officer. It was probably the most unqualified person to ever sit in that room. That's okay. It was a, but I had a great run. We spun a software company off called Encino that also went public. So just a great, great ride. I had a front row seat to really watch the game of business being played.

And so I moved back, you know, five years ago. And that's when Cal and I kind of really connected. And, you know, I was saying like, you know, he and I would talk a lot about this opportunity because Cal was always pro-paying guys. Like, he wanted dudes to make some money. And we talked a lot about just what an incredible opportunity this is, if it was handled correctly. And so, you know, at 22, I didn't come from business people or entrepreneurs.

But I looked at a compounding chart when I was 22 and seared into my brain is this 15% compounded doubles every five years. So I didn't have any money. I had 5,000 bucks. That's because I barnstorm with Tashon. They were all there to see him. He had to cut up the register at the end of the day. Those trips were fun.

That was good. But, you know, I just ran it at. It wasn't a noble go, but I was like, I got 5,000 bucks. how long is it going to take to be a millionaire, right? And so, like, I got a double. I got a dope. But, you know, like, look and think, like, these guys have truly a special opportunity. They have hit the lottery.

And what I mean by that is the power of compounding is the earlier you start, it has power, and the real power is how much time do you have to do it. So let's just say this. Let's just say a guy for easy numbers. You're a math guy, right? Oh, yeah. Ron's a big math guy. He's our math guy for sure.

Let's just say a guy has a million dollars in people. post-tax money, which is not unheard of at 20 years old. And let's just say he doesn't touch it for 35 years. So go from 20 to 55. And let's just say, not a 15% return. Let's just say it compounds annually at 10%, which is historically what the S&P is done. What do you think he's got at 55 years old if he's never touched that money? Any guesses? Five million. Drew, you don't guess? I was just watching Ryan's face. I'll say $10 million. So $32 million.

Whoa. So 10% doubles every seven years. So from 20 to 55. So I want you to think about this. So let's do this. Let's discount it for inflation. So really in today's dollars, you'd be anywhere between $12 and $15 million.

Now, you guys both live pretty lavish raw lifestyles. I see you on the street. Oh, yeah. Look at it. Everything he's wearing is free. You can hide money, boys. Yeah. But do you think you'd be okay with $15 million?

I think I can live on that. So what I guess I'm saying is like, that's not doing anything fancy. that's not doing anything cute, that's not doing thing over, you know, over complicated. But as a financial advisor today, we tell clients all the time, like in the early years of your life,

the saving behavior is more important. And later in life, you know, it's the actual returns that matter more. But basically, you have erased what typical people do from 20 to 55 have grinding it out. And finally, you've just fast forwarded that

to when they're 20. So if they actually have the right support, system. Whether they ever play in the NBA one day, you can change generations of families by this opportunity they have up right now if it's actually treated correctly, which just kind of blows my mind. And I would tell Cal is like, if you let these dudes put this in their bank account and their checking account, you might as well just hang on my handgun. It's that dangerous, right? And it's hard to understand how unique of an opportunity is when you're 1819. But I listened to Willie yesterday. Willie was talking about, man, it's like this stuff doesn't last forever and you think it's going to

and then now I'm trying to work through financial stuff. So I care more about the 55-year-old Otega Oway rather than the 22-year-old. I bet Willie Colley says, I wish when I was 22 there was somebody around me that cared about the 40-year-old Willie. So it's an incredible opportunity if it's handled correctly. But they've truly hit the lottery. This kind of once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. Yeah, Willie said as much yesterday. I wish someone, it was just you go here, you're here, this and take care of,

and they had like one meeting where they tried to teach them, but at college when you're looking at the NBA, your brain's not thinking about compound interest and how much you're going to have at 55. Willie, also, to your other point about being around people at giving, I thought it was interesting yesterday. Willie mentioned taking care of that kid, maybe a little bit of sticker shock there, but he has that giving attitude of, you know,

I'll be rewarded for that on down the road. You know, sometimes it's just about doing the right thing. So kind of tied in yesterday's interview with all your comments there. Ryan, you got any more fun memories before we let them go? Well, I wanted to ask you what you did with Coach Cal, what are you doing anything with Coach Pope's staff? Like if you transferred and transformed into that role also. Yeah, I've got to know those guys.

I don't do any like active fun. I mean, the whole game has changed, right? You know, I've got JMI now is in the middle. And, you know, some of this personal stuff is, it's all changed. But love those guys. I've got to know, you know, Pope and his staff really well. You know, they come through every once in a while with guys, but I'm not, like, I was kind of, like, actively in the middle of it with Cal.

Oh, yeah, right. But, man, I'm here to do whatever those guys. Gotcha. Love those guys. Man, I'm just so fun seeing us get healthy, man. It just looks like we're turning the corner. These last couple games have kind of energized the fan base, and it seems like a different level of effort out there right now, too.

And, you know, they've been, look, I think last year, if you don't hit with the injury bug, that team last year had a real chance to actually. do some damage and, you know, unfortunately we get hit with the bug again this year. Exactly. You know, it's just amazing what one player, you know, you put a point guard out there and everybody, the energy and confidence seems to reverberate through the entire team and kind of what Jaylon was bringing to the team. You've done the SEC gauntling a few times.

Had some success there. I know conference is a little better than it was during your time, but do you think they stay healthy? They capable of making a run and getting to some of their original goals, even though the year didn't start exactly as anyone wanted? I mean, I think so. Like, look, Jalen Lowe is a game changer. He can do things out there that nobody else can.

If you have him at the point and he's healthy and O.A goes and does OTAGA OA normal stuff, if Cam Williams becomes a 6-8 defensive threat that can also make shots, JQ and Malacca are beating stuff up that comes in the paint. You know, there's a different level of presence with JQ. Diabate returns to kind of what he does, being a physical dog, and then you've got, you know, Garrison coming in for spots. You got Noah and those guys coming in and making shots. Aberty.

That team can beat teams. Now, you know, I'm a little worried about that shoulder, you know, and popping out. But, man, if that guy is healthy and we have that roster, yeah, we can lay some up and beat some teams, no doubt. Why do you think they seem to, we keep hearing about in practice, can't miss, can't miss, the offense looks great, three-point shooting. And then in most games, especially the big ones, when the lights come on, it's not. moving from the craft center to the big stage. Do you have any insight or do you think there's any reason into why it's we keep hearing practice it's lights out and then those same guys haven't gotten it going quite to the level that everyone anticipates? I mean I think there is a mental component to it but I

think if you look at Cam Williams the last few guys he looks like he's playing with a little different confidence and sometimes a guy just needs to see a few go down a couple of those shots go down. He saw more than a few go down yeah and if you were to ask any of those assistants like in whose game in practice hasn't translated. They would all say Cam Williams. You know, that guy didn't wake up and just forget how to shoot. But, you know, you throw a few airballs up and rub, and you start thinking about it, and then you're playing spot minutes,

and now you can't get in the flow. Well, you know, he's getting enough minutes now. It just seems like his rhythm is coming, his confidence is going up. And then it's almost like this mental switch, man, and when it happens, you know, the, you know, the C's part a little bit. JP, thanks for talking basketball with us, catching up on old times. Good job, dude. Good to catch up.

Especially on a holiday. Thanks for answering Ron's phone call. No place I'd rather be right here. We've tried to get him on a couple times over the summer and stuff, but, you know, just vacations and families kind of getting away. You said you've got three kids. Yeah, we're rocking. Four, two, and one.

I've got a late start, Ryan. We're rolling now, and congrats, Drew, on your news and baby girl coming. Got one coming up. I'll take any, you know, you're new to the girl dad experience. Maybe I'll take some tips as you're just a year ahead of me there. But, again, thanks for joining us. Ryan, before we take a break, Do you want to work in a cornbread

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Gummy needs. Yeah, so I might have a little in my system from last night. You've got to take them for bed. But we'll be back for one more second. segment. Ryan, now will close the book on 2025. Probably won't get to our 25 best moments of the year. We'll save that for Friday, but we've had fun already. We'll be back for one more segment of the year. This is KSR. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened.

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Listen to Hurtle with Emily Abadi on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Welcome back to KSR, Drew Franklin, Ryan Lemon. One last segment for 2025. You getting emotional over there? No, it's been a long year. You and I both need to put this year in the rearview mirror.

We got bigger and better things coming next year. I'm very looking forward to tonight. I'm hanging out with some friends. You have a designated driver tonight. I do hesitate, have a designated driver. I don't know if we'll make it to midnight with our crew. You know, we have a big group, and there will be some beverages, and the sober driver of the wife who can't partake.

It's a big ask of her to hang out for five hours at a dinner table. But, you know, she's a good sport. Well, we just talked about, you know, JP has a place maybe we can go visit at some point. I would love to visit his mysterious place. It's like an underground layer. I wanted to ask about it. It's almost like he's a... Well, I know.

I didn't want to talk about it. Like a Bond villain in Lexington. Nobody knows where it is. Or do they? I know where it is. I've been there. You've been in it? Oh, yes.

You and your secret societies you're a part of. Yeah, I've been in it a couple times. There's just a layer of you that we don't know about, and that one seems like part of it. You have fun? Can you tell us anything about it? Paint a picture? It's got like an indoor driving range. It's got like an indoor putting range.

It's got some poker tables. I've heard enough. I'm very jealous. It's like a private bar. It's like my kind of place. You mentioned it's now you're going to Rodney's? You and Yoga Gap? Yoga girl.

Yoga girl. Yeah, going to Rodney's. It's exciting. You're going to Ruby's. I have a group. This will be year five. We go to dinner, and we just don't get up from dinner. Dinner takes like four or five hours.

We enjoy it. I have a unique situation. My childhood best friend who I've known since I don't think either one of us could walk. Since infants, we've been friends. We've been college together. He can't get rid of me. Is this Brian? He's Brian.

Yeah. Shout out Brian. Love Brian. But his birthday is January 1st. So for as long as ever, usually celebrating with him and you have that second component to it. New Year and Birthday. But then even crazier, he marries Jamie, lovely wife.

Yes. Replaced me in his life as his favorite. She took my place. But her birthday's January 1st. Oh, is it really? Yeah, and then all of her friends are Abby's friends and all of bronze are friends. So we do a big couple's dinner and just count down to the New Year. You know, I forgot this.

A couple years ago, Google and I were at Ruby's for New Year's. Year's Eve and you guys were there and then you guys told me that story I as soon as you start telling that story remember that now Brian and his wife both have birthdays on January 1st two New Year's babies so we always celebrate them I like you know this is a free plug here but Jeff Rubies does 20% off gift cards at Christmas we just buy a bunch of those yeah it's like getting 20% off your bill yeah but that's where I'll be that's my tradition by two of them you're saving $40 on a $200 pad exactly see you know the math everyone should take advantage of that

free plug to Jeff Rubies we'll be there tonight maybe we'll see Vince I'd say the chances are pretty high. Yeah, but happy early birthday to Brown and Jamie. Ryan, we also have a little playoff football starting tonight. Well, we have one tonight and three tomorrow. Miami and Ohio State tonight, right? Yeah, what a coincidence, though, that we have to do a Draft King segment picking games. What better to pick from the college football playoff?

You, as evident by our parlay, are quite the expert on college football. Absolutely. So we'll make our picks for this one. I might even, shall I fade you and go against here? We're going to trust you. How are you feeling for your last college football picks of 2025? Well, considering I picked Miami to lose to who would they play? Who'd Miami beat?

Alabama? A&M, that's right. Okay. I think he answered my question here. We will be fading Ron Lemon's picks. So I picked A&M to beat Miami, so now I'm definitely picking Ohio State to beat Miami. All right, well, at least you know who plays. What do we call in that bowl?

Is that the Cotton Bowl? Yeah, Cotton Bowl. What's our line? Last I saw it was nine and a half when we just confirmed, so we're up to date. ESPN.com has these way out of order. I don't care about yesterday's games. Yes, nine and a half. Who you're taking?

We're going against the spread. Ohio State's a nine and a half point favorite in the Cotton Bowl. 7.30 on ESPN. Are you taking the hurricanes or the Buckeyes with that nine and a half point spread? I'm taking the Buckeyes. They're still mad at Indiana beating in the Big Ten championship. Buckeyes and the points. So you're taking the cover.

You're taking the blowout. All right, I'm going to fade Ryan Lemon. That means Miami will cover the nine and a half. Ohio State will win, but I do think that's too many points. That's a lot of points. They're probably my pick to win the whole thing, but nine and a half, I'll take those points. You're going to give them to me.

Now you're putting on your headgear. Our listeners here from down the street brought us party favors. Thank you for not blowing whatever this noisemaker is straight in the microphone. We'll probably when we get ready to sign off here. All right. Three more games, though. All right. These are tomorrow at noon.

Oregon, Texas Tech in the Orange Bowl. Oregon is a two and a half point favorite. Oregon has the best offensive coordinator in the history of college football. I think he'll make a great head coach somewhere someday, so I'm going with Oregon. All right, I'll take Texas Tech. Alabama, Indiana, your former favorite team. Indiana is a touchdown favorite over the tide. That's a lot of points.

Indiana wins, but Alabama may cover. I mean, we've got to stop. We've got to give Indiana some respect. They won at Oregon. They beat Ohio State. They deserve the respect. All right, Alabama covers. And then the nightcap, Ole Miss.

Georgia, Georgia is a six-point favorite. Georgia, Georgia rolls. Georgia doubles that points for it. All right, in that case, I'll take Ole Miss. I'm going with the Ron Lemon Fade. You can find those on Draft King's Sportsbook. Use promo code KSR to take advantage of the sign-up bonus. We have lots going on there.

There are bowl games today, tomorrow. Basketball picks up on Saturday with Kentucky going to Alabama. I was going to talk about that, but we're at the end of the show. We also have our favorite memories of 2025. How quickly can you list your favorite? No, we'll save that. We'll do them on Friday the second. So we're off tomorrow.

Off tomorrow. No show tomorrow. We'll be back live on Friday. You know, I had some people saying enjoy the rest of the week. You're going to be off. I said, oh, nay. We had a New Year's Eve show that we're wrapping up now. Me and you are back on Friday. Do you want me to just continue hosting since I've planned too much? We'll just keep this rolling. Maybe I'll find a guest. And Matt will be back Saturday for the Alabama pregame show. Which will be at 9.30 a.m. because that's a new game. Here at the bar. We'll open early. Have all the breakfast, the brunch.

All of that. Any final thoughts on don't give away your moments. But closing the book on 2025? Well, we've seen it. You know, it's kind of historic year. We had a new basketball coach at the beginning of the year. We got a new football coach at the end of the year. So I'm kind of excited where our programs are headed right now. It was a big year for change.

I saw Nick Rouse just wrote a post about that. Check that out on KSR. As you mentioned, we had Kenny Brooks in his first tournament run. Came up a little disappointing short with the Amor Miss there. Pope gets us to the second weekend. Volleyball going to the national championship game. Baseball team went to the World Series. Don't be spoiling our favorite moments.

We'll be back Friday. Thanks for listening to today. Enjoy tonight. Be safe. Get Ubers. Remember, kiss at midnight. Four minutes later, we're kissing again. Kiss it again.

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