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on that argument?
I haven't got to talk to you much about it.
Still want him to win at this point.
If he was going to lose, I wish he would have lost the last game.
So we would have had him for this portal.
Now that we've lost him for this week, then go win because that's our advertisement.
Yeah, the more he succeeds now, the more people want to play, possibly play for him.
Especially they beat that Indiana team, and that's a great win.
So yeah, at this point, I'd like him to win.
I probably would have liked him to win anyway.
I think it's a good advertisement when they show him and they have success.
I agree.
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I'm going to get back to the phones in just a second.
I want to go over some other stuff.
You want to go real quick, all right?
Things that happen when I was gone.
Tallyho closed.
Yes.
That was big news because it kind of came out of nowhere.
They announced like two days before December 31st.
They're closing into the year.
There's a generation of people.
Mario's probably in this generation that don't understand.
Like, Tali Ho, to them, is like a restaurant.
Yeah.
Like if KS Bar were to close, people would be sad.
It was like a restaurant and you ate there and you have fun.
but like restaurants open, they close.
But Tali Ho was like an institution.
Absolutely.
Especially if you were of a certain generation.
If you went to college in the mid-90s through probably the 2015, 2012, right?
Tully Ho was the one place you went and ate out on campus.
Like people are used to that campus now being there's a lot of places.
But there was a time there were like three places.
Tali-ho, what would you call it?
Two keys.
Linas.
Yeah.
Right.
That was it.
That was all, there were just people, there wasn't stuff.
And then the CD store.
But you think it's still open, isn't it?
No, it's not.
That CD store is still open?
It might be.
CD Central or whatever?
By McDonald's right there.
There's no way that's still open.
No, Mario says no.
It was open.
There was a time that was a whole vibe.
Oh, yes.
All right.
But that Tolly Ho, like you could go in there on any given night and you'd be like,
oh, I want a burger.
Hey, there's Tashon Prince.
Yeah.
And this was like he'd just be sitting there.
At three in the morning.
Hanging out.
Burgers were good.
Greasy food is always the best late at night.
It was so good.
And it was like we didn't have as many options.
So that option wasn't.
People, we would walk from Transylvania to eat there.
Wow.
Right?
Yeah.
In the middle of the night.
So now, I mean, it's still there.
And like it's good.
I ate there a couple months ago.
But I think a lot of the nostalgia for it closing goes back to what it was when we were young.
Would you agree with that?
Yeah.
And that's when it was on limestone right there by campus.
If you went to you.
UK, you went to, you went to Talley Ho at some point in your career.
Nobody. Nobody that went to UK from 1993 to 2012 did not go to Talia.
You absolutely went there.
No one. Everybody and probably everybody that went to transit.
Yep. Probably everybody that lived in Lexington.
But if you, like that was the vibe. That was a vibe. Tuesday, I talk about, I've talked about
this one more before. Tuesday nights on limestone, they would release new C.
CDs at CD Central.
No, I'm not kidding, Shannon.
You know like when a new Nirvana CD or or it would come out or Tupac or something.
People would get there at midnight.
They would release Tuesday night at midnight.
And people would get there and they would line up down the street.
And whatever band you liked or musical artists you liked, it was like you got to have a party with those people, Shannon.
You got to meet everybody that also liked the person you like.
And you would eat at two keys or excuse me, you would eat at Tali Ho.
Maybe you partied at two keys.
you lined up for that CD.
And a lot of times on Tuesday nights, my friends and I would just go and buy whatever CD
came out.
Yeah.
I used to have a lot of bands.
I didn't even like just because I wanted to go do the Tuesday night thing there.
People don't understand that now, Shannon, but that was a thing back then.
Yeah, I remember visiting some friends.
I didn't obviously go to Kentucky, but I had friends that did, and we always ended the night
at Tali Ho going there after, you know, hitting the bars.
Lost its vibe when it moved off limestone.
I guess they sold that building to UK, right?
and so they just had to go.
UK is going to put, I don't know.
And they tried a couple places there on Broadway.
They're going to do.
Well, no, but they're doing where they are now they bought.
Yeah, all they did.
That place they are now, I think UK bought it too.
Wow.
It's kind of sad, man.
Like I said, it was a Lexington institution.
Yeah.
So that was too bad.
The, I did the New Orleans Bowl.
I've been waiting to talk to you about this.
So most nervous thing I've ever done in my life.
not, I mean, I'm not kidding you.
Never been more nervous.
Maybe the first show I did for ESPN was close to that nervous.
I think I was more nervous for this.
You know, I spent the days leading up to it practicing and I was like,
this is not my skill set.
Okay, this is not what I'm good at.
And I know that.
But I'm going to get through this and I'm going to make it good just by sheer willpower.
Okay.
And I worked so hard at it.
Like I remember I knew the players, how to pronounce their names, backstories.
I learned everything.
I know more about the town of Bowling Green than the mayor himself.
Bring them on here.
I know more about your town than you do, right?
Everybody that ever went to Western, everybody that ever went to Southern Miss,
how Haddy's bird was named after this dude.
This dude cheated on his wife, Hattie.
And he wanted to make it up to her.
So he took her to a new town and named.
the town after. He came to town right after. How about that shit? How did that work out in the story,
though? Does she come back to him? She did. And her name was Hattie. And so she named it Hattiesburg
because he cheated on his wife and needed a new town. He's still a cheater, though. But she lives
in history. Hattiesburg. Always for her. Did you know there was a nuclear test in America once?
Everybody thinks about the one in New Mexico. Oh, no. There was also one in Hattiesburg, Mississippi.
right outside of Hattiesburg in 1960.
We blew up a bomb underground to see what would happen.
How did you work that into the game?
Didn't get in.
There was a lot of information that I had that I didn't get to.
Like if you had a long pass that was a bomb, you could have tied that in.
It was like when they dropped the nuclear bomb below Hattiesburg.
Didn't get that in.
Met with the coaches before the games.
How'd that go?
That's weird.
Here's the thing that's crazy, Shannon.
I don't think I knew this.
Did you know that before the games,
these coaches will tell you what they're going to do?
No.
These coaches tell you.
They tell you the trick plays they're going to run.
Wow.
You can't say anything.
You promise not to tell the other team.
And the other team tells you the same thing.
So Southern Miss was telling us the trick play.
They were telling us what to look for when that.
So like a trick play would come and Myron would point and be like,
this is it.
Because they'd be like, watch out.
This is where we'll do a loop-de-loob boo-bo-bo.
And the announcers know.
I knew that Western was going to put their backup in.
Yeah.
Maverick, he told us.
But it's amazing that they trust these announcers, Shannon, not to say anything.
Yeah.
You think these announcers know all this stuff, but then you didn't realize they get ahead of them.
See, that's the thing.
I've learned.
You know when Tony Romo would call out the plays?
That's because they told me before the game.
We know.
Now it's not known as impressive.
See, they've been hiding this way
I'm like the magician.
You remember the magician that told all the
that showed you how to do all the tricks?
These, the announcers, they know
because the coaches tell them before the game.
I thought Romo was so smart.
You're wrong.
He was told.
I don't know enough about football to get all of it,
but the TV guy that did it with us
was this guy named Renee.
He did it with a woman, Courtney Lyle.
Two of the nicest people will forever be indebted to them.
They helped me so much.
Courtney Lyle and Renee.
whatever his name is.
Impoglo.
If you ever see those people,
give him a hug.
They couldn't have been nicer to me.
But Renee knows football.
He's like a police officer down in Florida
that also calls games.
He knew everything because the coaches
were speaking his language, right?
And they'd be like when you see a 12-83 formation
and he'd be like, oh, okay, and he'd write it down.
That's how they know, Ryan.
Sure.
They tell you.
I told you this as soon as you walked in.
I was so proud of you.
I may have been more proud of you during that game
than anything you've ever done.
I knew it was out of your comfort zone.
You had never done it before ever
in your first games on national radio
on ESPN radio doing a bowl game.
You would tell you were prepared.
You knew what you were talking about.
And I was, I tell you,
I was more proud of you than bringing anything
you've done on this show here.
But I got to admit, two things.
They go to you in the middle of the first quarter.
Hard.
Had to be tough.
Had to be in the middle of a drive.
Yeah.
Because you're calling the game, Shannon,
and even though it's not on the radio.
I'm just calling it for the ether because they want us to have the play in case they do.
So then all of a sudden they just go, five seconds you're live.
That freaks out.
Yeah.
You know.
And they had an early on, like, terrible injury.
Terrible injury.
And you had to talk through that.
I think you just came to you guys.
Well, normally when you're watching a game and somebody gets, exactly, somebody gets hurt.
What do they do?
They go to commercial.
Yeah.
We didn't go to commercial.
They couldn't. They just went to you guys.
What do you say when a man is lying on the ground and can't move and they say kill seven minutes of air time?
That's tough.
Without a field reporter.
And I can't talk about the bomb under Hattiesburg during that time.
I wasn't prepared for that.
I didn't know what to say.
Yeah, that was tough.
And you can't just be like, well, hope he gets better.
That's when you dip into your medical background.
That was hard because we had just come on the air.
And then there was a seven minute pause and they didn't take.
commercial break because we had just come on the air.
And then there's a long touchdown run and you did a great job calling it.
You're so excited.
And you're like, oh, there's a flag.
I guess that doesn't matter.
So that's another thing.
The Superdome, Shannon has the highest announcing point of any stadium in America.
Is it really?
Okay.
You need a Sherpa to get up there.
Did you have your binoculars?
See, the problem with the binoculars, though, is you can't follow the ball.
Think about when you wear binoculars.
It's a very narrow thing.
So I tried to do the binoculars.
I couldn't.
But I thought they said you can call it off the monitor.
Okay, you have a monitor.
Yeah.
Here's the problem.
It was a regional ESPN game,
which meant the monitor was three seconds behind.
Oh.
So I couldn't call it from the monitor.
That makes it even more impressive what you were able to do.
So I had to call it, even though these people look like ants to me.
Right?
Now, thankfully, I have a spotter who helped to.
me, but it's hard. Oh yeah. You can't even see the guy's numbers up there. And then this is the
old man problem, Shannon. Yeah. You know, I'm to the point now. Uncle Matt's gotten a little older.
The eyesight ain't what it used to be. To read up close, I had to buy readers. All right. So when I get
up close, I have to put on the readers. So what's the problem? Can't see the play with the
Readers on.
So the play happens, readers off.
Then I need to look down at my thing and see what the name of the person.
Readers on.
Readers on. Readers on. Readers on. Readers on.
And this man, he's a nice man. But he looks at me and goes, maybe you should get bifocal.
I'm like, I'm not bifocal age, sir.
I'm not bifocal age. I'm not bifocal age.
You are.
Okay? Well, apparently I am.
You got admit it sometimes.
when it comes to these games.
Yeah.
But.
One more thing I got to say about it.
All right.
It was so nice to see Doof and Smurts join the broadcast booth for a couple of plays.
Did I?
What did I do?
My favorite one is when you asked Myron the question about who's been in the Superdome the most outside of football games.
And he guessed correctly the Pope.
He said the Pope.
And Doof and Smurts was right there.
You got to be kidding me.
Why did you do that?
Oh, my God!
I did do that.
I did do that.
Yeah.
That's right.
when I finished
okay so I got
first of all those of you that listen
and a lot of you did
I heard through a source at ESPN
they were shocked how many people listened
through the app nice like it you all
showed up in the app
thank you very much
when it was over
I got very nice feedback
and then a week later a really nice note for my boss
with that said
I walked out
out of there, about as proud as I've been of myself in a long time.
Should have been.
Not because it was great.
I think by the end, we were pretty good.
We had some rough points.
I get it.
But I knew how hard I worked on it.
Yeah.
And I knew that I hadn't, like, bombed.
Because I kind of worried I was going to bomb.
The day before I was freaking out.
Mario was, or, Maron was like, all right, man.
What we got to do?
Where's, like, overconfident Matt here?
you're freaking me at.
And he's like, you're going to do great.
He kept telling me, Shannon, I was going to do great so much that I kind of yelled at
him.
He was like, stop saying that.
You're making me nervous.
Yeah. He's siking you out.
Yeah, because he's, you know, when somebody tells you too much that things are good,
then you're like, well, they don't really mean that.
Something's not right.
But by the end, we went out to dinner that night.
This was the night of the 23rd, just me and him.
And it was a really, like, proud moment.
Like, we'd been through something.
Because we'd never done it either.
Exactly.
You know, neither of us had ever done it.
When I told my producer, Shannon, before it starts, he was like, so, you know, what's your all's experience?
How often you've done this?
And I went, never.
And Myron goes, well, for football, never.
He was like, oh, what do I got myself into?
No, he was, he was a nice man, but he was dead serious.
Yeah.
And he had to look like, are you kidding me?
Neither of you have ever done this.
They put me with you two guys?
I later found out.
They think I'm the only person ever that's done a debut broadcast of national ESPN radio.
Not even a high school game.
We had done zero.
Zero games.
So I was proud of myself, but it was fun.
You sent me that note during halftime.
You said, man, this is the most chaotic thing I've ever been part of.
Hardest?
The first half.
By the second half, I got a rhythm.
First half might be the hardest thing I've ever done in radio.
But you couldn't tell it.
You guys pulled it off.
Yeah.
Well, anyway.
I don't know that put you guys so far away, too.
It's like they can make that.
That's where it is.
That's where everyone does it.
That's where everyone does it.
But normally you have like a monitor.
But because this was like a secondary, not huge thing for ESPN, our monitor was three seconds back.
Even in the stadium was three seconds delay.
Correct.
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Susan go ahead Susan hi Matt I just have a basketball comment and then I'll hang up and listen
this getting down by double digits like I think is part of
related to the starting lineup this year, but it also happened last year. It's been consistent
through the Pope era. In every marquee game, we get down big against Duke, against Gonzaga,
against Alabama. And it made me think of a comment Pope made last year, which was the first half
is just for gathering data. Yeah. And I don't, I'm sure that, I'm sure, I know, I'm sure that's
not all that's happening, but it does look like we just roll the ball out there, go, let's see what
happens and then we're a totally different team after halftime. So I just want to ask the coaches
if they could please, please, please gather data before the game. Yeah, that's a great point.
In pregame prep, like this seems to be the point of watching film and pregame walkthroughs.
So maybe we could just do that before halftime. Susan, I think that's a great point.
I appreciate the call. This team, Mark Pope has shown himself to be a pretty good coach at adjustments,
but why do you think we seem so unprepared at the start of games? It makes zero sense.
to be that smart of a coach, to be all their analytics and everything is involved.
And she's right.
It's not just a one-off thing that's happening against Alabama.
It's happened now for a year and a half.
Get down early, have to fight and claw.
You get down 20 in the first half against these good teams.
It makes it hard to come back against anybody.
I mean, we've been down double digits in half of our games.
It makes no sense.
And I bet you, of those, I bet you most of them are in the first half.
Yes.
Usually like midway through the first half, we're down.
We were down double digits against St. John's.
We came back.
Last year we were down 20 plus to Gonzaga.
We did come back, but you can't keep giving yourself those holes.
You take out that second half against St. John's.
I'd like to see what our point differential is in these other games, these other six games.
Because it's got to be.
It's got to be bad.
Crease, Chris, go ahead.
Hey, guys.
Good morning.
I just wanted to something that's been all in my mind about it is I think everyone's kind of touched on a lot of the Pope topics.
But my biggest issue is, I do agree.
I think we're stuck with him next year.
And I just don't know what we have to look forward to with him.
proven he can't recruit, he can't land
to eight players. I'm just not sure what we
have to look forward to in the
pro bearer.
Well, I appreciate the call.
It's not looking good for the recruiting, but it's not over.
Yeah, I mean, I'm hopefully
looking forward to them being better than they are.
I do think he has a major
issue with PR with the fans right now,
but it's not
I'm shocked that's an issue.
you with him. I thought that would be something that wouldn't be a concern.
I thought he would understand talking to the fans better than any coach we've ever had.
I really did.
I thought that'll be one, you know, that'll be one that'll be no problem.
And I'm surprised.
But I also, I hesitate how to say this because I don't want to.
So if you go over the years and you look at the coaches, and I'm now talking not about coaching basketball.
Okay, I'm talking about PR, like understanding the fans.
Since I've been doing KSR, when Billy Gillespie got here, his folks were like,
and we weren't nearly as popular then, they were like, tell me about the few K fan base.
Same thing about Cala Perry.
They did the exact same thing.
CalPerry probably better than anybody.
Mark Stoops, same thing.
Will Stein folks, same thing.
popes haven't, which is okay.
They don't have to do that.
But I have had good conversations with Mark twice.
But I have found it odd that like they haven't really done that at all.
And I kind of thought, well, it doesn't really matter.
Mark played here.
He understands the fans.
You know, they did that awesome event down here last year.
Sure.
And I was like, you know what?
I get it.
fine.
Like, they don't need it.
But I don't,
this Mark Pope since the Louisville game has not been that guy.
And I wonder,
is there somebody that,
like,
who,
who's telling them what to do?
You know what I mean?
Like,
who are they listening to?
Who are they talking to?
I don't know.
There's never been a staff in the time that I've been at KSR
where I've known less about the people that work here.
You know what I mean?
Like I don't know anything about the assistant coaches.
I don't know anything about anybody you there.
Do you?
No, I don't.
I mean, do you, like Jason Hart, Alvin Brooks.
I know where they came from.
They know nothing about them as a person.
Nope.
Cody Figer.
Nope.
No idea.
Mark Fox I knew before he got here.
So that's one person I know a little bit.
Don't really know Mark Pope.
The Robinson guy that's on the staff.
I wouldn't even recognize him.
And I'm not the only one.
I've talked to the other people in the middle.
No one knows the, like they are, I think, I think Cody Figer is close with Matt
and Orlando and Jeff Goodman, which is how those guys know everything.
But I, so it's hard to like sit here and say, like, I knew John CalPerry.
I knew Mark Stoops.
I knew Billy Gillespie.
I knew what they were like.
I kind of knew what drove him.
I kind of knew what, who they were.
I don't know Mark Pope.
I don't really understand him.
at all. So it's hard for me to know what's going through his mind. So like when Mark Stoops
would do something stupid, I would understand why, because I kind of knew Mark Stoops. I don't
understand why Mark Pope was rude to Tom Leach. I don't either. I don't understand him. You know what I
mean? And the fact he can't relate to the fans is just baffling. Because he's one of us.
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Here's Matt Jones. That's the first time I've ever
seen Mario perk up with the music we play.
He likes the assignment. Like, you, because I guess we probably don't play
that much hip hop on this show.
And like, as soon as he heard,
I understood the assignment. Like he was
you, like he, like she was, he was,
happy. He likes some TAY money?
Yeah, Tame money.
Well, Pope said he
understood the assignment. He did. We keep hearing it.
He's telling the assignment, though.
What did you think about that stat that
so let me
let me actually before I
sort of muddy the waters.
Who are the five best players on the team in terms of
if you were to put a lineup and say who should be the
lineup? What would you say? Jalen Lowe
Ottega O'A, Cam Williams,
Diabate, and Quaiton's.
That's who I would say. Yeah. They played
one minute together. Insane.
At your best squad and you play one
minute on the floor together.
They played one minute together, those five.
That's coaching malpractice.
That's what we said about Cal two years ago.
Yep.
Played one minute together.
That is a failure in decision making.
Failure.
Now, maybe you put that group and it doesn't work.
Who knows?
But how do you not try it?
I bet you 80% of the listeners to this show would have given those same five people.
Yes.
Right?
and they played one minute together.
The fact they didn't play Canne Williams-Harley at all is just baffling coming out the game he had against Bellarmine.
You're having trouble scoring and you got him sitting on there on the bench.
So what do we say about all the family members that are chirping?
So Jasper Johnson's uncle, former UK player, has been online quite a bit, frustrated.
Jaden Quaints's dad.
Yes.
What do we say about that?
Well, you know, social media is everybody a platform and they're not happy with things are going.
you know, Jayden Quayton's dad is chirping a lot about coaching moves, coaching decisions, that sort of thing.
That's not good.
That's not good.
He's your stud that just got eligible.
That's his dad.
That's his dad.
It's also your only top recruit.
Yeah.
You're one NBA lottery pick.
Let me note, two highest ranked recruits that Pope has gotten both have family members publicly
criticizing the coach.
When you're wondering about getting recruits in the future, that's tough.
It is tough.
That's tough.
if you're wanting to go get top of players
and your two highest profile recruits
already have family members complaining about the situation
that's tough.
Other family members of other recruits are going to see that.
Well, they all know each other.
The Jasper Johnson thing's interesting.
I'm not saying Jasper Johnson should play more.
I don't really know.
But I will say this.
Jasper Johnson is known a lot more
than most recruits ranked him because of social media.
Yeah.
And in terms of the recruiting,
landscape, Jasper Johnson's known by every good player in the country
because of his overtime elite and all that.
Him not playing matters.
I'm not saying you should play him just because of that, but it does matter.
Now, a couple little things.
First of all, Kentucky women.
Yeah.
What a win.
Had a huge win when you were gone.
They won yesterday, but the win Thursday night's the win.
That was the win.
That's the win.
Shannon, winning on the road on dress like Kim Malky.
Now, everybody's coming in bedazzled.
With their hair frayed.
And everybody's like, girl, you look good.
And you know what?
It didn't matter because Tony Morgan, pal!
Three at the buzzer.
Somebody at UK told me one of the top UK women's wins in program history.
I mean, it probably is the top women's win in the regular season.
Yeah, to win on the road at LSU, one of the perennial powers.
On Kim Mulkey night.
On Lane Kiffin out there dressing like he.
Lane Kiffin was there.
Like he's coming out of a rag and bone ad walking out there.
and then still losing?
Huge win.
15 and 1.
I mean, it's, yeah, it's been a heck of a season so far.
Heck of a year.
Now, they lost the girl last yesterday.
Tiani.
She's like, what, fourth, fifth best player probably?
She's definitely, she had 17 points and 16 rebounds the other night.
Against LSU?
Yeah, I think it was.
That's a big lot.
I mean, looks like maybe out for the year, right?
Dislocated elbow.
They weren't very deep, so that's a big loss.
That hurts.
But Morgan's been so good.
And we thought we'd miss Georgia Amor.
Morgan's come in and kind of filled those shoes and doing a good job.
A dislocated elbow sounds like that would be excruciating.
Oh.
How long are you like out for the year for that?
Is it her shooting an elbow?
I don't know.
Can you put your elbow back?
I think they can pop it back.
It's not there forever.
Well, they do it with shoulders.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it's not good.
I mean, I don't think she's permanently going to have a diso-kered elbow, but can she play?
Pop it back in place?
I don't know.
Kenny Brooks.
Kenny Brooks did the little Shannon
Butthead dance
I don't feel like no one's noticed that
But I mean everyone noticed him doing it
But that's what Butthead used to do when he would dance
He would take his fist and just go
Yeah
You didn't get video of that Mario
That's what you didn't get video of
Do you think he makes that noise when he does it?
I hope he does
I think he made it
When yeah
Eat it cat
But when one team is struggling
I mean, that team is succeeding tremendously.
Yes.
I do have to note one of the craziest things I've ever seen in sports.
You all probably didn't spend a lot of time knowing this.
Last night, A&M women played Georgia women.
Okay.
Probably didn't care, did you?
Did not care?
With four minutes and 40 seconds left in the third quarter,
A&M women led Georgia women 48 to 31.
Right.
The game went to overtime.
So A&M's women were up 17.
Game ended up in overtime.
Georgia won in overtime.
Now let's do a little math.
There was 4.41 left in the third quarter.
Uh-huh.
Okay.
How many minutes were left in the third quarter?
If they had been through 441.
441.
Okay.
Now add the fourth quarter, how many minutes?
What do they play 10 minutes?
10 minutes.
Okay, so 1441.
Now I add a five minute overtime.
what is it?
1914.
Ninety-one.
Guess how many field goals Texas A&M's women had in the final
1941?
What is it?
Zero.
No way.
They didn't make another shot the rest of the game.
It's like an entire half.
They scored 10 more points, but all on free throws.
No field goals.
They did not score another basket for the rest of the game.
They were up 17 with 441 left, lost 6458 in overtime, and did not score for 19 minutes and 41 seconds of action.
That's going to keep the coach up at night.
How in the world would we not score a field goal in almost 20 minutes?
That has to be one of the craziest stats I've ever seen.
Agreed.
To go that long.
Wow.
And they were good enough to be up 17.
And it was at A&M?
I don't know where it was.
I mean, you're talking about just falling apart.
You think the game is over.
And you can't even score again.
All right, we're done.
I would like to watch how many shots they miss.
That's true.
I mean, it has to be fascinating just to watch them.
Even the second half when Kentucky played Georgetown 84,
at least we scored a couple buckets.
None.
None.
Steve, go ahead, Steve.
Oh, Steve, Jude, go ahead, Jude.
Hello.
Yes, sir.
Can you hear me?
What did you think of Nate Oates's comments about Kentucky's passing
in his press conference last Saturday?
I thought that's how you use analytics.
Yep.
When Nate Oates gets up and says we watch game tape
and we realize that their assist numbers aren't bad,
but when you break it down,
most their assists came against bad teams.
He said you would sit there and you would see,
oh, 17 assists, oh 20 assists, oh, 22,
they must be pretty good.
were against the bad teams.
And then he said, but when they played the good teams,
they didn't have very many assists.
And then he broke, that's analytics right there.
Like, analytics is not just stirring numbers.
It's actually looking at the stats and seeing patterns.
And he saw that when we played good teams, our assists go down.
He said we knew they weren't going to pass,
so we would collapse on the guy who drove, and it worked.
Most coaches wouldn't, like, give that up, say that they did that.
But, Ryan, he did.
And that's what analytics are supposed to be.
That's why Nate Oates is a great coach.
You don't think the Missouri coach heard that comment too, and now he knows how to maybe how to play and defend Kentucky Wednesday night?
The question is, did we know that before, Shannon?
Apparently not.
Do you think we knew that we had only had seven assists when we throw the ball into the post in 13 games?
We should.
I don't know if we did or not.
With all the analytics that Mark Pope is all about, you should know that.
If Nate Oates knew that, we should have known.
And if we know, then I would wonder, Shannon, why have we not corrected?
Why wouldn't you?
It's a great question.
Well, maybe Pope did talk about that,
he did talk a lot after the game.
He did not.
Isaac, go ahead, Isaac.
Hey, fellas.
I'm perspective real quick.
I don't know if this will help anybody,
but it helps me understand kind of Mark Pope's mentality,
because I don't know personally.
But for my own job,
I know when the pressures starts rising,
I switch locations in my job.
The job of my job at now is a lot more high intensity,
a lot more sales, a lot more just pressure.
And so I know with that comes, you know,
know, different emotions that come out of me.
I get a little bit more frustrated, a little bit more angry.
So I don't know if that's necessarily where Pope's head is at.
But I can personally relate to him in that sense.
And I just hope he gets out of the funk.
It took me a while to get out of it.
But once I did, man, we've been rolling where I'm at.
So hopefully he can do the same thing.
Yeah, I mean, maybe so.
I appreciate the call.
But like, he's got to do it.
You know, somebody wrote me, Matt, have you all reached out to ask Pope about these issues?
I say this, honestly, I wouldn't even know who to call.
I really wouldn't.
I wouldn't even know there.
I have more people now that I can talk to in the Will Stein coaching staff that's been here for three weeks than in the entire rest of the athletic department.
So I wouldn't even know who to contact.
Not that I mean, I don't think necessarily Mark Pope should come on an interview on KSR right now.
That's probably not the greatest idea.
But fans have these questions and like he'll have a participant.
press conference today. He's got these coaches show
coach's show. Yeah, but I mean, what's that?
I love Tom, but he's not, he didn't answer Tom
at the last show. He's not going to answer him today either.
You think they take calls from fans tonight?
No.
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One person writes, Matt, I actually saw you last week, missed you on the show.
but saw you from afar at the New York Islanders game.
I didn't want to bother you, but I did want to wave and say go cats.
I was there.
Yeah.
Who did they play?
And the Utah Mammoth.
By the way, did you know they tore the Belmont racetrack just down?
I thought they were just remodeling it.
So they've moved the Islanders arena next to the Belmont racetrack.
Okay.
It's torn down.
They're rebuilding the whole thing.
Yeah.
Like, it's crazy.
So, anyway, I saw that.
But while I was there, I don't know if this guy saw that.
She hadn't almost got in a fight.
Oh, really?
You.
Do you?
Do you?
Do you?
Okay, I got to hear of this one.
I had to stand up against racism.
Oh, okay.
Good for you then.
All right.
So here's the situation.
Seven two mammoth over the Islanders.
Games basically over.
Uh-huh.
Uncle Matt had splurged a little bit to get tickets like the really good ones.
Yeah.
Like right behind the islanders.
the ice. Oh, wow.
Two minutes, three minutes to go.
Games essentially over. Most of the stadiums left.
Guy sneaks into the section.
Shannon, I'm fine with it.
What do I care? Right? There's plenty of empty seats.
No difference to me.
But he sneaks in the section. But he does sneak in.
Security guard comes over, tells him he's got to go.
Now, if I was a security guard, would I let it go? Maybe.
But you know what? It's his job, Shannon. Got to tell you.
Sure. Walks up.
Young guy, nice guy, I think he's Hispanic, comes up, says the guy,
need you to go back out, sir.
Your seat's not here.
This dude, like 55, bald, Long Island.
Like, think about what you think of, Long Island, Staten Island, that's this guy.
Uh-huh.
He stands up and goes, okay, Mom, Donnie.
That's the new mayor of New York.
He's like, oh, all right, Mondon.
Yeah, so you're going to kick all the white people out of stadiums.
Now, come on, dude.
First of all, this dude's Hispanic.
He's not even Muslim.
All right, he's Hispanic.
Secondly, don't be a jerk, right?
So then he starts saying, oh, I guess this is what happens to us now.
Mondani voters, this is what happens.
And finally, me and another guy, just a random guy is like, dude, stop.
Get out.
At that point, security's coming.
they escort him out
Shannon
So we
This guy's next to me
When I are like
What is with that dude
And I looked at the security guard
I go like man I'm sorry
All of a sudden I look up Shannon
He's at the top
He comes sprinting down the stairs
Yeah
Like sprinting down the stairs
Like he wants to fight
He gets to me
And he starts yelling
Somebody stops him
Like somebody stands in between
and he starts yelling at me.
Everything you can think.
Wow.
Again, continuing to say Mondotti, who's not, by the way, that's New York City.
This isn't even New York City.
We're not even in New York City.
Right.
He's yelling.
This dude's losing it.
And so then I, you know, I chirp back.
And I'm like, just don't be a racist dude.
Like, why are you yelling at this guy?
He's just doing his job.
They end up, Shannon,
dragging this man out of him.
With two minutes to go in a hockey game, his daughter is looking on.
His daughter was there.
Mortified. Oh, now it makes it even worse.
Mortified. He ends up dragging him out with him screaming about Mondani as he's getting
taken up the stairs.
Well, I guess it's a good thing. Security did it before you had to, right?
Because it would have been way worse if he had to deal with you.
I would not have fought the man.
But I was ready to say strong language.
He was being like, he was being.
like held down by the officer.
Yeah.
I tried to make a joke
that didn't hit.
Didn't land?
I don't think anybody really
I was like, well, if he was a Mondani voter,
he would have just let you sneak down.
Right?
Nobody got that?
No.
It doesn't look like you get it either.
I don't get it.
Well, because like he's socialist,
like everybody gets...
Okay.
Yeah, you didn't get it.
That's why it didn't work.
That's why I didn't work.
My audience didn't understand it, Shan.
I want to get back to like the fight that might have happened.
Like what would you have done?
Would you have gone like a kick to the groin?
Would you have like punched?
I had this other guy.
I had the other guy.
He's on your side.
I was going to give him the old onesie-toosy.
No, I wasn't going to fight.
I wasn't going to fight.
Do you leave with the left or the right?
I was just shannon trying to end racism.
That's all I was trying to do.
I wasn't trying to fight.
It sounded like you did it.
I think it's over now.
Yeah.
Racism is over.
It is ended.
You just solved like world peace now.
I think.
I think it occurred.
And then as he got dragged off, people clapped.
Yeah.
And then the game ended.
The game was over like right after that.
People don't want to witness that kind of stuff.
He lost his mind.
That's sad.
And he was in front of his daughter.
To this random guy who was like five foot eight, didn't say one negative word, just
said, sir, you can't sit here.
Doing his job.
He just was doing his job.
Right.
Well, good for you for standing up for racism.
Against.
Yeah, against racism.
Shannon, not four.
Did he just say four?
I did.
Oh my God.
It was against.
Against racism.
Which side do you think I'm on?
You're on the right side.
I'm not four.
No, you're not four.
I'm against.
He's actually on the left side.
Somebody's going to take that clip, Shannon, go.
Nice job, Matt.
Thanks for standing up four races.
Good for you.
Don't run for office again.
See, and this man literally, when I was thinking about running for Senate, was like,
we think I could be your campaign spokesman?
No.
He's not your PR guy.
Absolutely not.
That would have been the worst decision of all time.
Well, there you go.
Good for you.
It's nice to be back.
Good to have you back.
Are we going to beat Missouri?
It's Wednesday.
It's Wednesday. It's not tomorrow.
It's Wednesday.
It's Wednesday.
Are we going to beat them Wednesday?
I thought we would until I saw what we did against Alabama and saw how they beat Florida.
Now I'm not so sure.
We have to win.
We'll talk more about this tomorrow.
We have to win both of these home games.
We cannot.
I feel pretty good about us against Mississippi State.
but we got to win Wednesday.
Have to.
They beat Florida.
Yes, they did.
A good Florida team.
We got problems.
You go 0 and 2 to start the season.
That's going to be bad.
You think he's going to say anything good in the press conference or in the coaches show tonight?
No.
Nope.
I'm going to listen.
History shit tells me no.
Over under what point five calls he takes.
I'll go under.
Does Bob and Jamestown count?
He tries, but he's not going to get in.
All right.
We'll see.
Bob and Jamestown's call in the postgame show is,
is why we don't take his call.
Did you hear it?
I didn't hear it.
He said we need to shoot three more five-pointers.
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At our level, at this scale, being able to fail in front of the entire world.
Like, I can do anything.
I can do anything.
Listen to Hurtle with Emily Abadi on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports.
What's up, guys?
This is Clivert Taylor the 4th.
And on my podcast, The Cliverts Show, I'm bringing you conversations about all kinds of stuff.
Like being an internet famous referee.
We're in the middle of a game.
This linebacker, this linebacker, this linebacker, walking.
What's up to me?
He goes,
A, ref,
my mom wants you to wave at her.
What?
Time out.
Quarterback on office blue of 42.
Hey, rep.
My mama want you to wave at her.
What?
Hey, Ms. Parker.
Listen to the Clippers show on the I-Heart Radio app,
Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
