KSR - 2026-03-18- KSR - Hour 1
Episode Date: March 18, 2026Matt, Ryan, Drew, and Shannon talk KSR's trip to St. Louis, NCAA Tournament games, and all the latest news.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....
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Welcome, everyone.
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I'm Matt Jones.
Wednesday, March the 18th, the day before the two best days.
of sports of the year, the first round of the NCAA tournament.
We are all here in Louisville because when this show is over, we are taken off and headed
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everybody is here. Nice to see you folks. I haven't seen you since Nashville. So you've been up in New York doing your ESPN thing. He did a really good job though, by the way. You got to see the bracket thing. We're going to talk about that? Well, I mean, first of all, good to see you too, Drew. And we saw Shannon earlier. Mario's here. It did come out. Matt Jones's bracket. And thanks to everybody who looked at it. If you haven't yet, go watch it. Good numbers. You know, I'm a very, I can't help it. I'm a little bit of a competitive person. Compare it to the other video.
The other videos got placement on the main ESPN page.
And ours didn't.
But nevertheless, I think the last time I looked, like 18,000 people watched on YouTube and then on all the social media.
So that was good for us.
I had to put myself the position of the producers.
Like, oh, my goodness, we've got to put this guy on.
He's crazy.
He does these radio shows.
I'm not crazy.
I've worked with you for forever.
We mean, I'm crazy.
Some people would say you're crazy, right?
Yeah.
I mean, you by far of this group are crazier.
Well, in the ESPN radio world, you're probably Mr. Crazy.
And the first team out of the hat, you call them the Evil Empire.
And like the fourth team out of the hat, you talk about Bill Self's hairpiece.
And they got to be back in the booth like, oh, my goodness, what are we done?
Oh, I think they liked it.
You know, the way I look at it is if you have to sit there and do that all day,
you want something different, Drew, right?
You want something interesting and fun?
They were laughing.
I judge when I do ESPN radio.
This is true.
If I can make my producers laugh, I know.
I know we're rolling because they have to listen to this boring, monotonous sports talk all
time.
So if I can get a reaction out of them, I'm like, okay, we're doing so.
Well, first of all, the hands looked amazing.
I mean, I don't know what you think about the hands.
I don't know what kind of moisturized.
Oh, my goodness.
They had a glow.
They did have a glow.
I didn't like the guy.
It was a vitamin C serum that you kind of rub on your hands, I think?
I'm glad to hear you say that because someone in the comment section said, why did you
wear white gloves?
And I didn't think that was very nice.
Yeah, you should have got a manicure before you went in there.
No, I think it looked good.
I didn't even see the picks.
I was just looking at your hands.
I didn't look good.
And then, you know, they had suggested they were like you should put some makeup on your cheeks under your eyes so it doesn't glare.
And I was like, I'm good.
Now I see next time I'll do that because my right cheek.
You know, you get a level of vanity when you see yourself on camera that you shouldn't.
But nevertheless, I was overall very pleased.
To your point about having fun with it, speaking for me, I don't have any interest in just watching someone read me of their bracket.
not having a little fun with it.
Like just post the picture and I'll read it myself.
I don't need step by step.
Well, I think they're going to rebound and they're going to win.
No, you got to have fun with it.
You got to have fun.
What's the point of otherwise?
Plus, I don't know anything.
You knew the Sienna was a crayon.
I said it was a good color.
It was a good color.
That's right.
And I gave a shout out to everyone that's ever been nice to me.
Yes, you did.
Like Jay Lucas, Nolan Smith, Ugo.
Hugo.
There's no other bracket preview where Ugo's got to.
I don't know with the tournament he just had.
He didn't have a good ACC term.
But I was like, you know what?
I'm going to give Hugo a shout out.
And so yeah, I was...
You still look good in your Madisonville hat.
I was a little worried about that until I saw it.
Why are you so worried about it?
You sound like you're my dad.
It's okay.
We kind of feel like I'm your father.
Like you're on the ESPN set.
You would be the worst.
You know he hosted the Brackett show, right?
Like, if they let them host the little for six years, I think he could have.
But now you're on TV and you're on the sports center set.
So it's supposed to air, they're going to air all.
of ours, I think at some point today on ESPNU, but they said we don't know what time yet.
I would have thought, Shannon, they have the times for shows picked out before the day of.
Yeah. Yeah. But apparently on ESPNU, it's just like, there's just a guy going, well, let's err.
This, not now. That'll be fun. Sounds like chaos. Like, we gave them way too much credit to think
they're organized over it. Listen, one of the things you learn, like a good lesson for people is, you know,
there's this idea in news and sports that there's this organized group of people trying to control
the think and they're like woke ESPN.
If you walk in, it's a bunch of people going, right, what we do now.
Like, there's no grand plan.
I talked to literally the top people at ESPN while I was there.
Great people seem nice, but like they're just sitting around going, yep.
Like nobody's, there is no grand plan.
everybody's just a human meat.
That goes to my theory. Everyone in life is just trying their best.
That's exactly right.
They're all just like trying.
They're a kid that grew up and got a job and they're just trying their best.
Just think about your job and how much you procrastinate and try.
That's exactly what they're doing too.
I loved it when I talked to you at halftime when you're doing that college football ball game.
And the first thing you said to me, this is the most chaotic thing I've ever been part of in my life.
Dude, that was, that was, it's all very nice to see.
Like, sometimes I say on here, we're the only.
show that ever breaks down, and we do break down more Shannon than any other show. Oh, yeah.
I mean, everybody has those moments. And so, anyway, thank you all for watching it. It was good.
And the people that made the nice comments, the guy that said that about the hands with the glove.
A lot of people were like, those are the hands of a man who's never worked. True. You don't have to say
it's true. We know, we know it is. But maybe the white glove comment was a compliment. I think they were saying my hands were
compliment. I think they were saying my hands were paid. You put on white gloves at a, you know, formal events.
I don't think that's what they meant. I think they meant that I was, I think they meant that I was pale.
So we're leaving for St. Louis after this is over. I've got like an insane amount of topics.
So we're going to keep the phones closed at least for the first hour. Maybe in the second hour we'll open them.
That's just I woke up and ended up with 15 topics. We already did one, which was the bracket.
So I want to go through a few of those. One of the things I'm going to ask for,
We're going to St. Louis.
Yes.
I'm trying to think.
I've been to St. Louis.
We were there when we played Wichita State.
Right.
We were there for the SEC tournament the one year.
When I was in college, we went to the arch and my friends, I climbed to the top and my friends spelled out a dirty word with their bodies on the ground.
Oh, wow.
Wow.
See, you didn't realize we were wild in college.
We spelled out a dirty word.
and I took the picture from the top.
Wow.
Wish I still had that.
Yeah.
I don't know.
You don't want to incriminate yourself.
I'm hanging out of that.
We thought we were.
Other kids went to spring break.
We went to the arch and spelled out words with our box.
I want to party with you guys.
But because of that, I do think, I realize I haven't done like the St. Louis where to eat, for instance.
So it's me, you and Mario.
So on the text machine, 772-77-4-5-254.
If you have St. Louis tips, where to eat.
We're going to have some free time.
So where to go visit.
I've been to the arch.
Yeah. Overrate it.
It's just over-rate.
It's just a big.
But it's the gateway to the west.
It's a pretty big deal.
But it's just...
I'd rather stay in the east.
Like there are a thousand buildings in New York taller than the arch.
What's the point?
It's ways.
Yeah.
miraculous. What's miraculous about it?
This arch is just like there.
It's not just there. They built it. It's awesome.
It's a beautiful thing.
It makes my heart seen. What's so great about it?
Because it's the opening to the gateway to the west.
You don't know you're on your way to the west until you go through the arch.
And you can't go around it. You have to walk through it under it.
I'm with you, Shannon. It's kind of like, what was it, devil's knob that we went to.
Devils Tower.
Biggest bunch of BS I've ever seen in my life.
So if you have St. Louis.
recommendations, let me know.
772-745-254 on the text machine.
People have asked about a show.
We are still contemplating.
We may not do a live show,
but we may do something where after the Kentucky Santa Clara game,
if we win, we'll do the post game in some kind of bar
and invite Kentucky fans that are there to come celebrate with us.
But we still don't know yet.
We've got to find the place.
We're going to our house.
When I tried to get the Airbnb last night, there were only two left.
Oh, really?
And one of them was only in pink.
Perfect.
It was a pink pony bachelorette house.
Perfect.
I didn't get that one.
I decided I couldn't take that much pink.
So I got the other one, and that's where we'll be.
Yeah, the content would have been great in the pink house.
Are you excited?
See, I love St. Louis.
When I was a kid, that's where our family would go to Bush Gardens and watch a Cardinal game.
Every summer.
Go to the Arch, Bush Gardens, Cardinal game.
Have you seen a little ballpark village?
That's a cool place.
That's a really cool place now.
We were there when 2014 went to Ballpark Village.
Maybe the Union Station.
If you all have suggestions, especially places to eat, 772, 774, 5, 2, 5, 2, 5, 4.
All right, I have something I want to say to get us ready for these games.
All right.
Dicking glasses off.
Must be important.
I'm very adamant about this.
Okay.
It is time at least for the next four days for us to get ready.
for us to get ready and to believe in this Kentucky basketball team.
Okay.
Because we have nothing to lose.
What is there to lose?
Nothing.
Meaning if it doesn't work out, we got a whole offseason and complain about it.
For four or five days, we need to be all in.
Because here's why.
These are four crucial days for Mark Pope and for this iteration of Kentucky basketball.
crucial. How we see what will be his most important year will be determined by these next four days.
Right? Yeah. Let me, there will be, there are three possible scenarios. Let's go over. Let's say we lose to Santa Clara.
It's going to be a bad offseason. There are going to be people who are going to say this isn't going to work.
there's a good chance that some of the teams that we compare ourselves to are about to have a really good march
and it'll be awful and there will be so much pressure to get this roster right and even if it is right
people will not believe it until it starts a loss to santa clara puts mark pope in a do or die
situation next year next year if you beat santa clara and you lose to iowa state in my opinion
you're kind of right where you are right now.
There will be a lot of people who still kind of believe in him.
There'll be people skeptical, and then there'll be people who think he's going to fail.
And we're kind of at status quo.
So the way the fan base feels right now, that's how they feel.
But what if we win?
What if we beat Iowa State?
What if we get to the Sweet 16 for the second straight year?
What if we take this team that for a lot of the years felt disjointed, et cetera,
and all of a sudden we move to a regional.
And whoever we play in the next game, be it Virginia, Tennessee, whoever, there's no reason we can't beat that team.
Right.
Already beat Tennessee twice.
And Virginia's Virginia.
You all of a sudden have a chance to start believing.
The game is in Chicago.
Yeah.
That ain't that far.
There's a lot of Kentucky fans there.
It would kind of feel you would get that adrenaline in your blood again.
Does adrenaline go in your blood?
Let's just say it does.
Okay, I don't know anatomy.
But it will be extremely exciting.
And Mark will get some momentum going into a recruiting season.
And I do think this fan base will look at the team and the program completely differently than they look right now.
Because you will have beaten one of the seven teams, according to Kim Pom that has a chance to win the national title.
So these four days in seven.
St. Louis have a chance to set the program even farther back than it is right now,
or kick off some momentum that can lead next year to feel exciting like we did this year.
If that's the case, why not for the next 96 hours get on board and be excited?
You nailed it. That's exactly right. And we as Kentucky fans should do that.
You go back to what Mark's story wrote and said, Mark Pope's legacy could be decided within the next month.
This is it.
It is time right now to see what he can do.
This is part one of it.
I think making the team for next year is part two.
But this is a part one.
And Drew, you have a chance in this part one to make part two easier depending on what happens.
And that's why March is the best.
Because whatever you've thought up to this point, if you're very negative, they can shut you up and by going on a run and going to a stage in the tournament you didn't think they could reach.
they can answer a lot of questions people have right now
or at least get some confidence back by Pope by going on a run.
That's what makes the tournament special.
The ideas you have of these teams going into it,
you could be completely wrong
and they could surprise you and rewrite their whole season
just in a couple of weeks.
2014, the momentum of a program turned around
with that victory over Wichita State.
In St. Louis.
In St. Louis.
They got on a run.
They ended up in the championship game.
Next thing you know, Willie and the twins want to return,
and you get one of the great Kentucky teams
in the history of the sport the next year.
Yep.
Had they lost to Wichita State,
maybe the twins don't return.
Uh-huh. Maybe we'll eat.
Negativity occurs all year,
and 2015 never happens.
So this is a massive weekend.
This is a nervous weekend.
This is a Matt's going to leave the arena weekend.
Oh, you're going to the arena.
Oh, I'm going to go and then leave.
but it also is a chance to really get Kentucky basketball feeling like Kentucky basketball again.
And so we might as well get excited and try to make it happen.
We'll take a break.
Be right back.
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What are the St. Louis songs?
I'm sure there's one with Nelly, probably.
St. Louis.
You can find me in St. Louis.
There's one called Meet Me in St. Louis.
All right.
Judy Garland.
St. Louis doesn't really, like, roll off the tongue for a song.
No, a lot of St. Louis, they say, though.
St. Louis.
Like the new song, St. Louis.
Yeah.
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One person writes, Matt, or no, he said, brother.
Brother.
I can't allow myself to have hope for this season.
It's not worth the near inevitable fall it will bring.
That is not the way to live life.
It is not the way to live life to have no hope
because you might get hurt.
If you live like that, you're going to sit in your house and just be scared all the time.
Think about Ryan.
Okay.
He knows that when he gets married, there's a chance it'll fail.
But he keeps getting married.
Right?
Because you've got to have the hope.
Got to have the hope.
The hope is what life is about.
If you sit and worry, you always can be sad.
Like, I want to have.
once dated a woman, she said, I'm worried that she'll break my heart. Maybe. I didn't say that.
But like, but that, but that if you, if you, that's your thing, if that's your thing, then you can't
ever date anyone. The heartbreak kid, Matt Jones. But like, if you're worried about losing,
then you, then I won't get excited about any game. We can always have our heart broken. You still get up
off the mat, Drew, and you keep believing because why not? In 96 hours, it'll be. You'll be, you,
decided anyway. And this is March. Last I checked, we get one of these a year. I mean, it's our
favorite time of the year. Sure, we're a little disappointed in how the regular season went, but
March Madness is here, and it's like Christmas for Kentucky fans. Maybe our toys aren't as
shiny, and we're not Griswold in our house this year with all the lights, and it's not as
exciting as it would be as a one seed, but it's still March and it's right in front of us.
One person writes, Matt, do you really believe a 14-law sweet 16 season would be a success at Kentucky?
No, not totally, but that's, success is in everybody's eyes.
Like some people think success is you have to win a title.
There's not many people who think that, but they'll say final four, whatever.
Success is in the eye of the beholder.
What I will say is, do I think overall it would be successful?
No, probably not.
But do I think considering Ryan where we are at this minute, then yes, I do.
The way we played all year, et cetera.
Yeah, big picture overall, it is not a success.
But where we are today with the injuries and the way the season's gone to get that far
would be a success for this team.
I always think about golfers, Drew, because I've wondered if I was a professional golfer
and I was in 47th place going into the final round.
And I knew I couldn't win.
And let's say I'm Tiger Woods and I have a ton of money.
am I still driven to play the best I can to come in 31st?
I think the true greats are, right?
Like you're still driven to put the best performance you can out.
I don't think any of us think we're going to win the national championship,
but why not still be driven to see us do the best that we can based on where we are right now?
Yeah, and think about these players, they're going in with the right attitude.
This is Otago away's last tournament, whatever.
happens. Same for Aberdeen. Same for a lot of them.
This group won't be together again. They're going
in with the mindset of let's win six games.
So as the fan base, whatever you think of them
to this point, at least believe with them and we'll
see what happens. And if it ends
Friday or a bad loss,
that's a big problem we'll worry about when we get
to it. And maybe you get a moment, Shannon,
that we remember forever. Yeah.
Right? Maybe you get one.
And then that's
nice. Yeah.
I mean, if you can beat
Santa Clara and Iowa State, that would definitely be
something to remember.
Yeah.
Iowa State's a very good team.
Maybe you get a moment where James Young forgets to play and they come out of the
timeout huddle and he hits the game winning three-pointer.
You never know what might happen.
Also, we're focusing on the path.
How many times do we see the path just completely open up?
What if no one's just assuming Iowa State wins?
You know, probably when Murray State played San Francisco, they were sitting there going,
well, we have no chance against Kentucky and then we lost to St.
Peter's.
Time after time, it happens almost every year.
A path opens for a team.
And Cindy Lauper said that time after time.
If you look and you're not.
That's exactly right.
Mark's story, you mentioned him.
Also, you know, listen, we've been hard on Pope, myself included.
I think Mark's story made a really good point as to where Pope should get some credit.
Okay.
Mark's story said, hey, Arkansas won the SEC and everybody's comparing.
He said, though, and Drew and I've made some version of this point a lot of the year.
The comparison for Mark Pope, if you want to compare, is not what John Cal Perry's doing at Arkansas.
If you want to compare Mark Pope, if you want to compare him to when Cal first got here, Cal was clearly better.
But maybe the relevant comparison is what Cal did the last four years before he left.
And in that comparison, Mark Pope's crushing him.
John Calaparian in his last four years
won one tournament game.
He won one SEC tournament game.
He had more losses or a worst regular season percentage.
Mark Pope's already won two NCAA games.
He's already won two SEC games in half as many years.
And so, you know, we can debate till the cows come home.
Would Cal have done what he did at Arkansas here?
I think the answer is no.
maybe some people think the answer is yes.
But this idea that somehow Mark Pope has done worse than Cal did post-COVID is ridiculous, true.
He's done better.
That's why on Sunday I was not listening to anyone trying to dunk on Kentucky because they were rewriting how it ended here.
Did people forget losing to the non-seed Texas A&M in Nashville and then turning around and losing in the first round in the NCAA tournament?
As you said, in four years, one tournament win.
Like why are they trying to dunk on us?
One SEC tournament win?
I mean, why are we, good for him in Arkansas.
We all know he got rejuvenate all that.
People are trying to rewrite how it ended here.
It was not good here.
Kentucky was not winning in the postseason over a long period of time.
I mean, there was Billy Gillespie type numbers there at the end.
And there's this group of goobers who all usually have the same pictures of the people who call me a stinking liberal who say, you know, you ran the coach off.
We did not run the coach off.
We're not that powerful.
and if we were, then he's too wimpy to be here anyway if he's worried about a radio host.
But even if we did, if you don't like what Mark Pope's done, do you remember what Cal was doing at the end?
Now, granted, Cal had an amazing first 10 years, but you don't pay people on what happened in the past.
You pay them on what's going to happen in the future.
We'll take a break.
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Here's Matt Jones. You can't help but dance
to nail it, right?
I mean, we've talked about this
for. He's got so many hits.
Oh, yeah. You got this one. You got Air Force One.
You got the one I used to
did my law school exam too
with the, I can't remember the name.
Got a little EI, little number one.
EIA, the one with Tim McGraw.
Oh, over and over again.
Over and over again.
This is the one.
This is the major, you know, I love Nellie.
I love Nellie so much.
Totally fine.
He played the Trump inauguration.
Get it, Nellie.
You saw him at the Legends Ballpark too, right?
I did.
What a blank show that was.
Him, juvenile.
That was ridiculous.
I've seen Nellie a few times.
I did.
He has a hard time getting there on time.
First of all, he plays anywhere.
He'll play like in Barber.
Like he really will.
I think he played the Corbin Arena.
Did he play the Corbin Arena?
I'm sure he did.
He plays everywhere.
Nellie must still need money because he never stops playing.
But good for Nelly.
Amen.
Good night of sports TV last night.
Did you watch a little USA Venezuela?
I saw the highlights and I saw your boy hit the game.
You didn't watch the game?
No, I was watching the basketball.
Oh, my goodness.
That was one of the most exciting baseball games I've ever seen.
I would have thought you would have been right on top of it.
I was so engross with Howard and UMBC.
I couldn't turn away.
Shannon, did you watch?
the game. You're telling me
you baseball heads
didn't watch that game. I've never
seen a baseball game with more emotion.
I mean, you know, World Series
games I know are huge,
but I'm not sure that
stadium, when did
Miami move to Caracas?
It was rocking.
Venezuela took over.
It was wild.
I mean, the excitement of
Bryce Harper hits the two-run, home run
to tie it.
and then you go to the ninth and Ehu he only oh just gets the game winning hit.
He looked like he was about to spontaneously combust when he got the hit.
Then they won and the celebration, I'm for America, but I couldn't help but smile at how happy they were.
I said out loud, am I a bad person that I'm enjoying Venezuela right now?
It was amazing to watch them.
I love Ronald Bacuna.
I was happy.
like Suarez is the guy from the Reds. You have a Coonja.
I think I knew more of their players than our players.
First of all, if you had asked me, Matt, how many Venezuelans do you know?
I'd be like, well, we got that, the one guy, the president.
I didn't realize how many I knew. There was Salvador Perez who looked.
They said he was 35, Shannon. He's checked the birth certificate.
He looked 60 to me.
Yeah, he's at least 40.
But he was still playing. He came caught during the game.
Good for him.
Even Abby was like, is that Miguel Cabrera?
I know even their coaches are famous.
Like Miguel Cabrera, Miguel Cabrera looks like he did not hit the weight room when he was done with baseball.
But I thought it was neat.
And then they sang the national anthem.
I loved watching them sing their national anthem because none of them were on the same pace.
I don't know.
Everybody knew the words, but they were not in the – I kind of like that.
They're all just singing at their own tempo.
They're on a hurry to get to a club in Miami.
You can tell how much they care with the fact they had more.
people in our stadium than America did.
Well, it was packed, right?
It was sold out.
It was awesome.
And it was unlike a baseball atmosphere.
Like people were treating it like it was like basketball or whatever.
Like they were just losing it the entire game.
Well, it's been a huge success.
That's why they do this.
That's why they develop this.
Well, I thought it was great.
I really enjoyed it.
And then Texas, so then the both first four games were good.
Yeah, they were.
And the Texas game, have you seen the video of the assistant coach running on the floor?
I haven't seen this.
All right, so you need to look this up.
So Texas hits with one, so with one second to go, Texas hits a shot to take the lead.
And all of a sudden, I guess one of the Texas assistant coaches loses his mind and he runs on the floor.
He's at the free throw line.
He literally runs on the floor.
The game is going on.
I didn't even notice that in real time.
The ref blows the whistle.
You got to see Sean Miller.
Shannon, he almost commits murder on the sidewalk.
Trying to get the guy held back.
Because he thinks they're going to call a technical.
The refs come together and they clearly consider whether to give him a technical.
And they decide not to.
Imagine you're the assistant, though, and you call us the technical at that moment.
You're out of a job at that point.
I think he might be out of a job anyway.
Watch Sean Miller.
Yes.
Sean Miller literally is about, I don't know that guy's name, but he is,
lucky to be alive today.
Sean Miller is so mad.
He turns his back to the action on the floor and just to yell at his assistant
coaches are holding him back from that man.
Wow.
So now here's my question.
Watching that video.
Wow.
Should the refs have called a technical?
It is technically a technical.
Yeah, it is.
Now, NC State called time out.
But it is unclear whether they decided to call time out in that moment or where
whether they did it after the refs stopped the game. So I don't know the answer to that question.
But do you think you go by the letter of the law and call the technical or do you go,
okay, let's not have the game disrupted by this? What do you do? The rest had to decide we blew the
whistle, called the timeout before we saw him on the floor. They had to. They would have called a
technical, I believe, at that point. What would you do? Let's say, let's say NC State was going
to call a timeout. But they just hadn't yet.
But you didn't know that.
Would you...
Let me give you the chain of events.
You see the guy run on the floor first.
Then NC State calls timeout.
You know what happened.
Are you calling it?
Knowing you're going to give NC State two free throws,
chance to tie the game,
and maybe to win if they then score on the next play.
You have to.
A coach is running and, like, to get to the free throwout on the court.
If that happens before they call the timeout,
you have to call it.
What do you think?
I'm Tying him up
And I probably shouldn't look at it this way
I have more grace if it's a player
They're young
They're in the moment
A coach has to know better
But you're gonna get him fired
He's getting fired anyway
You have this man's job in your hands
Well don't be bad at your job
And then you won't get fired
You cannot run on the court as a coach
For some reason a player
I give a little more
Young comment a coach has to know better
Shannon I know you're teeing him up
Yeah I think NC State saved his job
By calling a timeout right there
If they don't call a timeout
You know he's going to get teed up.
Yeah.
And he is losing his job after that.
Especially if you lose the game after that.
I'm probably going to let him go.
Yeah.
Because I'm, you know.
Liberal.
That's right.
He was obviously just caught up in the moment, but still.
Act like you've been there before.
Doesn't believe in law and order.
Yeah.
But you can't just have coaches running out on the court.
I don't support our referee law enforcement.
You can't just.
No, you can't.
I mean, it is an unbelievably stupid.
moved by that guy. And he would go into the annals. Like Chris Weber move over. We got a new guy.
And right now I don't know his name. But if they called that technical, I'd know his name.
The whole world would know his name. I mean, what if they had quickly inbounded the ball and
dude just runs into the coach at the free throw line? That's true. Exactly. That's true.
You have they quickly inbound it before they called the timeout and somebody runs into him on the
court. I'm taking a dive. I'm running up to him and fall in. What was he thinking?
It wasn't. He wasn't. That's the problem. And there was not a buzzer had not gone off.
still his time left.
But it's not like he heard a horn and thought the game's over.
He just ran out there.
Unbelievable.
He's an excitable boy.
He is an excitable boy.
After watching that video, though, I fear for his safety from Sean Miller coming after him.
Sean Miller, you're right, he just was like, I'm not even going to watch the end of the game.
I'm going to kill this.
He did.
He had his back turn to the action.
Because I think he thought they were going to call it technical.
When the refs huddled, I think Sean Miller thought, oh, my goodness, they're going to call a technical.
I got a prediction.
I wonder if he'll be on the bench in a few days.
You think so?
You think he's that, like, get out of here.
Maybe.
Vital and Barclay did the game.
And by did the game, Shannon, I mean they did not mention the game.
It was a love affair.
But so the play-by-play guy lost his voice.
Yeah.
So he was like, which means you got more Barclay.
They had to fill the time.
And Vital, they had to fill the time.
Yep.
And I think they just talked about anything.
Uh-huh.
And at one point, Vital realized they were so off script that even he goes, I think we got to talk about the game.
We got a game going on.
This is an NCAA tournament game.
Remember during Kentucky, Indiana, they did that.
Yes.
But, you know, it's a December game and whatever.
They got a little off script.
At one point, he started, Vital started kissing Barclay.
Yeah, they were kissing each other.
Kissing each other on live TV.
He did rivalry.
A little smooch.
See, I loved it.
I loved hearing those guys talk during the game.
I know, but if you were a Texas or NC State.
fan and it was an NCAA tournament game.
Would you have enjoyed it?
I don't know.
Our Kentucky fans didn't enjoy
the Lofest or the Indiana.
I did too.
I enjoyed, but to be fair,
I have a huge soft spot in my heart
for both those guys.
I love them both.
And I think, you know, Vital had never done
an NCAA tournament game.
You're right.
So I thought that was cool.
It was very cool.
And then Barclay,
but I think Barclay adds to everything.
But I think the guy not having his voice
and thus they just were
left. It was like you were having a five-year-old, like a fifth grade band, but with no conductor.
Yeah. There's nobody to rain them in. Everybody was just hitting the symbols and like it was just
kind of going insane. I enjoyed it. But Drew, if I was a Texas or NC State fan, I probably would
have hated it. And one thing that's fun about Barclay this time of year is it's pretty obvious.
He's not very detailed in college basketball. He doesn't know who anyone is. But that's fun. I like it.
Normally he has someone to lean on with him. So when, uh,
When the play-by-play guy left him,
Barclay is just, he was railing on the NCAA at one point.
He was giving all kinds of opinions.
I specifically enjoy that he doesn't know anything about it.
Part of that is self-preservation because I have to go on ESP and Shannon
and talk about things I don't know either.
Right.
But I do enjoy that he's just like,
the big dude over there throws the ball and little dude.
It's like when they brought in Snoop Dog to call the Mike Tyson fight, you know.
But if I was a Texas or NC State fan,
Probably more people watching that game last night were not Texas or NC state fans.
So I kind of enjoyed it.
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weirdest lyrics of any song,
but it's got a great beat.
Yeah.
Excitable boy.
You can't, I can't even, like, focus.
The song sounds so happy.
Yep.
And the lyrics are just wild.
And the lyrics are dark.
Yeah.
And like, sad.
But,
He's an excitable boy.
You know, and it's like, that's, okay.
That's probably why he did it on purpose.
that kind of, you know, 859, 280, 2287.
We, when we walked in here, I ran into Perrin.
Yeah.
I'm still mad at him.
Why?
Because he said he was coming to the SEC tournament, and he just didn't.
Oh.
Who just doesn't come to a trip?
So, like, my group to go to the SEC tournament is 15 people.
That's who gets the invite every year.
And I'm sure in everybody out there, you all have a group of friends like this.
They're the people you can count on.
and then the people you can't count on.
So of the 15 people, I know every year,
one of my friends, he's got, like, he can't,
he ends up never being able to come,
but that's because he's got like 17 children.
Literally, I don't know how many of it.
He's busy.
But he's literally like every day a new child comes out.
Wow.
You should get that checked out.
So I'll give him a break.
Then I have a friend who's a lawyer,
and he claims to always.
being trial, but I don't think he's ever even had a trial.
Like literally, he's always like, well, I got a trial.
No, you don't.
Send a picture of the trial.
You don't have a trial.
You've never once had a trial.
But he's like, well, it's scheduled.
You know, we might have to go.
I was like, you've never, there's never been one trial.
And so he always came.
And so we know that he flikes, too.
But then there's parent who always says he's coming and never comes.
and I always believe in him.
I made multiple bets with people like, well, he's not going to come.
I was like, he's coming.
Trust me. This is the year.
I promise you he's coming.
New year, new parent.
Nope.
Didn't come.
Do you have friends like that?
Oh, yeah.
That say they're going to do something.
And then you just know they're not coming.
Right.
One of my great memories from the SEC tournament in St. Louis, though, involves
Perrin.
Yeah, because he tried to fight people.
That's why I want him there.
He's a good bodyguard.
He's a good bodyguard, and he's fun.
but he's not coming.
Like that's what happens.
And my other friend's going to have four more kids this year
and he's not going to come and there's this.
Apparently in Fayette County,
there's a trial every 30 seconds.
And,
but we did get the core 11.
The core 11 are always there.
And they came again.
Although one of your core forgot to bring
another one of the core.
Yeah, we talked about that.
You just left.
Left him in Lexington.
How do you leave?
Of all people,
how do you leave hubby?
Yeah, you leave the guy who ordered the house.
I forget my toothbrush before.
He came in without him.
Seems to make his whole important to the group.
It would seem.
But I'm upset at Pear.
I don't know how you just, year after year, don't show up.
Does he get bumped out of the group and somebody subs in?
But I want him to come because he's fun.
But I'm never going to believe in him again.
He owes me because I bet, and it didn't happen.
You know one of my favorite things to do?
It's tournament time, Shannon.
That means let's check in with Mike Frances.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Remember Mike Franceses?
Still doing Mike and the Maddaw.
Wake up, Mike.
A couple of you.
He is our favorite radio host that we never have listened to.
All right.
So he fell asleep that one time, snored on the air, which is amazing.
Yes, it is.
He talked about Maryland a few years ago in the tournament.
He was like, they've won some games.
They've lost some games.
They've been up.
They've been down.
He clearly never seen him.
But he may have topped himself better than anyone this time.
Making his picks?
So all these dudes in New York, the way they talk about college basketball is they just talk about St. John's.
because they don't know else to say.
It's Rick Petino and it's in their city.
So if you watch first take, it's just Stephen A. Smith and Chris Rousseau yelling about St.
John's because they're the only teams they know.
Mike Francesa claims to have watched every St. John's game this year.
Okay?
Knowing him a little bit, I already don't believe that.
That's what he claims.
But he had one of the more outrageous statements of all time.
He's talking about one of the St. John's players.
I just want you to listen to this
and see what you think he might have gotten wrong.
They score on the break,
they score off the turnover,
and they score off the offensive rebound.
And then Zubi sometimes will get a little thing going.
Zubi can look really bad offensively,
and he can look really sweet offensively.
He's going to be interesting to see what happens,
especially against Kansas.
Remember, he left Kansas,
but that's a long time ago,
and he left Kansas because of MBEed.
And M.Bs are different.
player in Zubi. I mean, Embed when he's healthy,
is a guy could score 50 points in the NBA.
He's a big time talent.
That's no big deal that you know, that M.
Bede was over him. I mean, that happens. And he
came and he found a home.
So he says Zubi came
to St. John's because he couldn't get him
because of him beat.
Joel M. B. graduated from
I went left Kansas in 2014.
M.B.'s been in college
a long time. Zubi was nine
nine. Zubi was nine years
when Joel Embedde left Cairns.
Shannon, he was nine years old.
He couldn't get in, though.
And he said Zubi couldn't get in.
Well, no wonder, he was just nine.
Because of Joel Embeded.
I think his age would be the bigger roadblock than Embed being on the team.
Now, he did a, yesterday he addressed on the show his mistake.
Okay.
After people made fun of him, he goes, I was thinking of Hunter Dickinson.
Oh, really similar players there.
Hunter Dickinson's not gone for 50 in the NBA.
No.
You were thinking of Joel Embed
and you don't know what you're talking about.
Hunter Dickinson and Embeddeed, I'm not falling for that one either.
As stupid as that was, just play the beginning again.
This is his explanation of St. John.
They score on the break, they score off the turnover,
and they score off the offensive rebound.
And then Zubi sometimes will get a little thing going.
he'll sometimes get a little thing go.
Yeah.
But he's played good.
He's played bad.
He's played bad.
He's played good.
But the problem was indeed.
He looked really sweet offense.
He's going to be interesting to see what happens.
He looks sweet.
He's got to be interesting to see what happens.
I want to see the little thing he does.
Didn't see that on the scouting report.
Zubi gets a little thing going.
He's looked bad.
He looks sweet.
What do you think he means by gets a little thing going?
Does a little dance?
Maybe a little tap dance?
I love Mike Frances.
I do too.
Put him on a broadcast.
He needs to join.
He needs to join Barclay and just let the two of them do it.
Oh my goodness.
It's amazing he has a job.
I guess because it is entertaining to hear that.
I follow that Funhouse account that just constantly clips of him.
There's an account that all they do is make fun of him.
It feels like this happens daily stuff like this.
The whole account is just playing clips where he does things like that.
And they're frequent.
And yet he still has a show every day.
But he was nine when Joe Ellen Bede played.
He meant Hunter Dickinson.
Yeah.
This is his podcast.
Is he still on the air?
Like radio?
No, the podcast runs on the air.
Oh, it does.
Wow.
By the way, his teeth, those.
Some chompers.
He's got the, what do you call those things?
Veneers.
Veneers.
Yeah.
Those are some veneers.
Do you go too big?
Yeah.
I think that's fair to say.
We'll take a break.
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