KSR - 2026-04-08- KSR - Hour 1

Episode Date: April 8, 2026

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Starting point is 00:02:56 I'm excited. I'm actually going to get some wings. I haven't had good KS Bar wings since I've been traveling in a couple weeks, and it's a dollar wings today. Even with all the difficulties in price around America, you can still come here and get dollar wings on Wednesday. And burgers from Doche-Land. Yeah, they've got a small loan to fill your gas tank,
Starting point is 00:03:14 but you can come here and get dollar wings afterward. That's right. It was 4.39 in somewhere. My goodness. The other day. Was it really? Yeah, I'm trying to think where I was. It was in Kentucky, though.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Maybe it was in, I guess it was in Louisville. I'm not sure. I saw a picture was 519 somewhere around here today. In Kentucky? Yeah, it wasn't Lexington. and somebody sent me a picture. Wow. Well, don't go there.
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Starting point is 00:03:56 We'll have plenty of time to break it down. But it's nice to, you know, after being frustrated at times, this show. year during football and basketball season. It's fun to see it before they collapse because they still have the second fewest runs in baseball. So we're going to collapse. But until then, it's the summer of alley. You did come in with a little pepping your step this morning.
Starting point is 00:04:15 That's fun. I watched the whole game. Watch the dude. It was the best pitching performance I've ever seen by the other guy. Yeah, he was awesome. And then we still somehow won. Well, you show me how Ellie scored the time run. 99% of a major league baseball player would not have been able to score.
Starting point is 00:04:28 But it's Ellie, and he's wearing a hoodie now. That's why he's so good. He's not slow him down? No, because he said it keeps him cool. It's like having a parachute back there. That's what people say, but he said, I heard him say, they asked him, and he said, first of all, it keeps him cool, and second, it's a vibe. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:44 I did that play last night. I was way ahead of it. I've been keeping cool and a vibe for a long time. You've been challenging people to races and hoodies before? That's true. I'm not going to do that today. I didn't take Amy. We got Montgomery County here.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Lexa, where are you all from? Olive Hill. Tom T. Hall country in the house. And what about you? Burt? Bourbon County, Lexington. So here you go. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:05:10 A man right here is working on his driver's permit. Dad let him drive over here today from Elizabethtown. Get the hours in. The drivers permit. So what's the rules on that now? You get it at... 16, but you've got to drive 120 hours? Yeah, 15 and a half.
Starting point is 00:05:24 You get it? 15 and a half-year-old's driving? No wonder these roads or something. When did that happen? I wouldn't let a 15-and-a-half-year-old driving. We've got to drive with your parent, and you've got to drive 120 hours to get your true permit. Well, how do they know that? You've got to fill out a log.
Starting point is 00:05:41 So you can just make something up? Josiah would drive from my house to Douglas. That was two hours. Are you admitting to lying on a government form? I plead the fifth. I think he admitted for his son, not even him. To be quite frank with you, you can't plead the fifth because you just admitted it. Oh, that was AI.
Starting point is 00:05:58 That was AI. That was AI. Yeah. Okay. That's interesting. I didn't seem like, Drew, people keep asking me, have you had a baby? I hope not. I keep checking my phone, nothing yet, but we are in. Just due Sunday? Sunday is the official due date, but we're at the point where, you know, anything could happen.
Starting point is 00:06:13 He's got a dilemma Friday we're in Somerset. I asked the doctor. The doctor said, check with Abby in the morning, see how she's feeling, and then you should be okay. So you, I mean, you could have a memory that the baby could come, and you'd be at Don Franklin in Somerset. And I would have to name the baby Dawn in that moment. It's a girl, D-A-W-N, Don Franklin. So we are at Don Franklin and Somerset on Friday, potentially on Baby Watch. I'd prefer Sunday. I really want Master's Sunday, but we're at any moment.
Starting point is 00:06:42 That would be, I mean, just if we're talking content on. Yeah, let's think about the show. Which is ultimately what I think is most important. You having to leave Don Franklin to rush and go have a baby would be great content. Yeah, for you all. How does that work? Am I allowed to speed? Throw some flashers on and maybe bend the rules a little bit.
Starting point is 00:07:03 That's interesting. Maybe there can be a Pulaski County escort. Yes. Well, now we've got to set this up. Yeah, well. Yeah, we're ready. So I was going to ask if you wanted to go to the Reds game with me Sunday. You're out?
Starting point is 00:07:14 Probably a no. I will watch it from the hospital. Okay. All right. I was going to offer. I want to go to the Masters. That's a different conversation. So if I go to the Masters, it's up for a.
Starting point is 00:07:23 There's a master's ticket out there. I can, I might have to take one. Well, I hope you get to go to Don Franklin. But I also don't want you to be to be. to be stressed at Don Franklin. Yeah, I'm planning to be there, but we'll see. We'll see how nature goes. Okay, well, very exciting.
Starting point is 00:07:36 This is yesterday. Yesterday's one of those days like where the phone kind of gets wedded to my hand, which I don't enjoy, which is because you want to make sure if something happens, you're ready to go. There are, I think, Jeff Goodman said, 4,000 players that played last year that are eligible to play college basketball next year. and at this moment 1,400 of them are in the port.
Starting point is 00:08:04 So that's a lot. You know, this is just how college basketball is now, and you just have to accept it. Like, I mean, I saw on, I think, a KS board thread, something like, this is not the college basketball. I know, well, it's not. You know, I mean, I'm not going to try to debate with you. It's just not, but it's also never going to be again.
Starting point is 00:08:25 So you just need to kind of decide this new world of the sport do you enjoy it or not. I think here's where I think I am on it. I think it's awesome when the game starts. I think what this has done is it has made it to where when the game start, the games are better. The teams are better. The players are older.
Starting point is 00:08:48 They have incentive to stay. I don't think what Cal did those first few years here at Kentucky where it was all for. I don't think you could do that now. I really don't because the guys are so much older, which is why he's so well. He's like 26, 27, 28-year-olds, because I think he likes coaching freshmen. And Drew, I just don't think you can do that anymore if that's all you have.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Yeah, and there's that stat that's out. There's been, like, one freshman starting the championship game in, like, five of years or whatever. I mean, Duke is – Duke had pretty elite freshmen, and they had a couple older guys, but, you know, that you saw him kind of fall apart. They made freshman mistakes. They kind of fell apart at the end of that game against Yukon. So I think the sport is actually better for it. Now, it can make these few weeks insanely hectic.
Starting point is 00:09:29 And I would also understand, Ryan, why people might say, you know what? Just tell me who's on the team. Kind of like, I can't follow this to every single guy. Just in the end, tell me who's on the team. I could understand that. I'm kind of one of those guys because there's so much happening. I feel sorry for guys like Jack Pilgrim and Jacob, you know, because they have to stay up with everybody entering the portal.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Jacob, I was talking to him last night. He gets up at like 7 a.m. and he's going until like 11 to p.m. And I guess he took his, he took someone to dinner last night. I think he and Jack went to dinner. Oh, I thought it was a woman. Okay. Well, I don't know what they did.
Starting point is 00:10:07 You know what, let's scratch that, because I don't know what his relationship status is. I don't know what they were. Let's just say it with Jack. I thought they were there for work purposes, but if there's something else, that's between them. His woman. Let's not get HR involved.
Starting point is 00:10:18 His woman, Jack, but I talked to him, and like even at dinner, he's having to sit there and take phone calls. Like, this is his super. Oh, he loves calling people. I don't know. I could not do that. He will just cold call. I think he called Todd Golden one day before a Kentucky game.
Starting point is 00:10:34 He was like, I can interview. And they're like, well, I guess you got the audacity. How much I hate calling people. I called a woman yesterday just to inquire about house design. And I felt like I was bothering her. And that's her job. And I was like, I don't. I'm sorry to call you.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Jack's calling people to annoy him. And he has no problem doing it. You've got to have a special personality to be able to do that. I couldn't do it. I'm with you. I don't want to bother people. I feel like you could do it. You talk to anybody.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Well, I like to talk to them, but you're taking your 15th phone call in an hour about, are you entering the transfer portal or not? Yeah. It would be a little tough. I had to DM a high school band out of bio because he wasn't answering, and I still get anxiety about it. I did not want to send it, but I was already outside his high school waiting and couldn't get a hold of anyone. And it still haunts me 10 years later.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Yeah. That's funny. I don't like that. I don't like reaching out to the high school. That's back when we would send you to go see the new Kentucky players. Yeah. Just when they don't answer the first calls, I don't want to bug this 17-year-old, but I'm here. But you have to bug him.
Starting point is 00:11:36 All right. But we do get, when we get actual concrete news, that's important. So yesterday, the actual concrete news is that Cam Williams is coming back. He's now officially only the second guy back, Moreno and him, although Moreno is, I guess, technically in the draft, but I think he'll be back. I assume Colin Chandler's going to be back, although he hasn't said it yet. Cam Williams, I think when he came here, the assumption was always going to be. He was a two-year player. I don't think the first year went exactly as they wanted because he got hurt and was out for a period of time.
Starting point is 00:12:08 I think this is a great guy to get back. My guess is he's kind of going to be slotted in a six-man role next year. I don't know that, but that's my guess. But he is long. He can guard. When he plays well, he can guard, and he can shoot threes. I drew love having him on the team. so I was excited to see that news.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Me too. He kind of got a slower start than a lot of people expected, probably even him. But, I mean, he had that eight three-pointers against Bellarmine. I think he had 15 against Mississippi State, something like that. Then he gets hurt right as he started getting going and getting the minutes he deserved. So his injury came at a bad time, and I'm glad they're bringing him back. And really, let's include Chandler. If we're being honest, the people we didn't mind waving goodbye to have left,
Starting point is 00:12:47 and the ones were willing to keep, look like they're going to keep. So I'd say so far so good on what he's doing with the team from this past season. You know, Cam Williams was just. settling into his role. You know, he would just start to play well. He was starting. He was finally found his shot and knocking down threes. And then that injury happened. It just happened at the worst time for that kid. So I'm glad he's going to come back, maybe get a chance to shine for a whole season. I don't think there was anybody on the team that when they shot, I was 100% confident was going in. But the two I was most confident were Chandler and Cam. I kind of thought like,
Starting point is 00:13:15 if they take the shot, I feel pretty good. I kind of was of the view. If they're open, shoot. Everybody else I was like, all right, well, think about it before you do it. With those two guys, I was like, if you're open, shoot, so I'm glad to have him. And so I was thinking, as I was sitting having my McMuffin this morning, how do you, if you're an average fan, how do you process this portal? I mean, you keep reading names and you hear Mark Pope zooming with this guy. It's interesting, sometimes he chooses to Zoom, but sometimes he Facetimes. How do you decide which one to do?
Starting point is 00:13:49 Because he's FaceTiming with some guys and zooming with the other. Is that like an unofficial tell of who he's interested in the most? Maybe on the other. in, they don't pay for the premium and they're out of minutes. So he has to switch. He clearly has the professional subscription because he's living on Zoom. Oh, okay. Well, I think I would choose to FaceTime.
Starting point is 00:14:04 It's just easier than... I would choose to text if it were me. Yeah. Mark Pope does. I will say, did you see the picture of him on FaceTime with one guy? He needs to back the phone away from him. He's got the Mario thing where he sticks the phone directly in his face. So I would just say the same way I ask Mario sometimes to back the camera up,
Starting point is 00:14:22 I'm going to make a little suggestion to Mark back the camera. up, your face should not take up three-fourths of the camera. Do you agree with that? I totally agree that. I saw that. You know, his first class, he did a lot of face-timing, and it worked, you know, had some success. Maybe he feels like it's more personal connection with somebody when you FaceTime the guy. But my view is going to be, so I was trying to think, what do I want this roster to look like? And so I thought about, all right, they've got, let's assume they have Chandler. With Chandler and Moreno, I think you have two guys that the assumption is going to be they're going to start. Everybody can go. Oh, I'd love to
Starting point is 00:14:55 have Chandler come off the bench. I'd love to have Moreno. Those guys did not come back to have started this year and come off the bench next year. So I think you just need to assume those guys are going to start. I would say Cam is like your six or seventh man. That's what they brought him in here originally. That's what he played. Drew, I figure that's what he'll do next year. Do you agree? Yeah, and I wouldn't think with the year he had coming off an injury, he'd have many opportunities to go take a big role somewhere else. That would be any better than anything here. So what am I looking for? All right. I think if you look at the tournament, every team that succeeded had two or three guys who could ball right these teams that were good you know you had
Starting point is 00:15:33 yukon had the big fella read or whatever's name silas dimmery and and cariband were consistent and mullins played well at the end you look at michigan they had probably four guys that were like that probably seven or eight guys that would play i'm going to assume chanelaner moreno are two of ours if they end up not being good enough to be two of ours then that's going to be a problem They're going to be paid like they're going to be two of ours. So in my view, Drew, we've got to go get two dudes. Right? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:16:02 And I don't know who they are. Probably one of them needs to be a point guard. Yes. I think your point guard has to be a dude. And I think one of them probably needs to be a big, but Moreno is the kind that it could be like a six-nine big, or it could be a seven-ele-one, seven-ele one. Seven-ele one.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Wow. Yeah. Let's go get him. A seven-one big. You could get two different kinds, and I think it would still work with Moraine. And then I think you need at least one other really solid guy, and then you fill the rest with role players. That's what I'm looking for in this class. So I'm kind of looking for two studs, one guy that, like, on any given night might lead the team in scoring. And then three or four kind of guys to fit a role.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Do you agree with that? I do. Are we giving up on Stokes? I mean, I don't feel good. Stokes would be one of the two. I mean, if you get Stokes, then he's filling in one of the two studs. In a dream world, he's there. Without, and I'm not giving up on him yet, by the way.
Starting point is 00:16:57 But that takes one of, I'm considering him almost like a portal audition, because this is so late in the year. There's enough point guards out there right now that will be stars. I mean, heck, some of them were stars last year. You have to get one of those guys. You absolutely have to. Because there are so many point guards that have entered, because there are a lot,
Starting point is 00:17:14 does that make you less want to take the guy who might be injured at LSU? Yeah. I mean, if he showed up today on campus with his luggage and said, I want to be a wildcat, Maybe you take them so you don't miss out on others. But right from BYU who just went in. Zoom Diallo from Washington yesterday. There's some, as you say, dudes,
Starting point is 00:17:31 some guys that you really want to go out and try to get. Yeah. So that's my take on it. We'll talk about a couple of the guys as the show goes on and more. We are here at KS Bar and Grill. Good to see everybody. Olive Hill. You know, play a Tom T. Hall song for these people, okay, Rick?
Starting point is 00:17:48 We'll do. All right. We'll be right back. KS. Last night, a blown call changed the game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where SportsSlice comes in.
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Starting point is 00:20:41 Where's she at? Hey, Miss Parker. Listen to the Clifford show on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome, welcome back. Kentucky Sports Radio 859-28027. This is what is this? Faster horses. Is that right? Faster horses,
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Starting point is 00:21:26 Nobody loves onions. Oh, I do. You don't like onions? A raw thing of a raw onion. Well, nobody eats a raw onion, but you put it in other things and, like, nobody just sits and eat that. I would think a person's crazy. It's like if they just eat a raw onion.
Starting point is 00:21:39 I had to do that as part of like a church Fear Factor thing. I'm telling you, it affected me for a month. I could not get rid of onion. I had to eat it like an apple. It's still haunted. What does mean a church fear factor thing? It was like, we were done a youth group, and there's all these dares, and mine was to eat an onion like an apple.
Starting point is 00:21:52 What kind of church do you go to? This was, well, I went to the first Presbyterian church, but this might have You got to be careful with those Presbyterians. Well, I think the Methodist put me up to this across town. I was with some friends. But I'm telling you how bad you think it is. It was worse. I brushed my teeth 10 times a day for a month and couldn't get it out.
Starting point is 00:22:08 I was just telling you during the break, Ryan, this is, it may be the thing that finally has me consider getting married is this house. Because I'm learning how little that I know about things. You know, I met with the landscape of the estate, and they sent me and they're like, These are the things you need, and it was a long list. Yes. And I was like, I know how businesses are. I don't think I need all these things, but I have no idea what I need.
Starting point is 00:22:35 So I asked my mom, and I asked hubby's wife. Yes. Which of these things do I need? And there were like 11 choices. And they both pick the exact same ones. There we go. Which means somehow they have a gene that they know that I don't have. And I wonder if that's true about other things.
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Starting point is 00:23:14 Yes. Things will break. 859-280-2287, one person writes, Matt, are you really willing to hit your wagon to Chandler? He needs to be fourth option, maybe third at best. Well, okay, but my, what I just told you was I wanted three to four guys that were really good. I think Chandler is one of them. So they're, you know, if he's your third or fourth option, that's up to you.
Starting point is 00:23:39 But yeah, he can be third or fourth option on a really good team. Yes, just like Braylin Mullins. You know, Braylin Mullins has probably got a bigger upside, but he didn't play well a lot of the year. Chandler can be as good as that guy can. I think of the jump he made from where he couldn't even play his freshman year before Christmas. got a little better in postseason hit some big shots than a huge jump as a sophomore i mean there is a world where guys get better every year i mean if he takes another big jump and all the shots he hits he's like what he's married he's not all getting distracted yeah i mean he's he's got a chance to be i think really good do i think he's probably got a 401k do i do i think you could win with him as your best player no but can he be the third best player on a team that's really good yes i do think that i feel like we all agree disrespect to Chandler and Moreno, but the two dudes they bring in have to be better than both
Starting point is 00:24:30 those guys. We need two guys better than both of Moreno and Chandler. I definitely need one, and I probably need two, yes. But I definitely need one. They got to get one, they got to have a dude. Yes. Right. They got to have a dude. They got to go look, okay, I don't know
Starting point is 00:24:47 that you'll get somebody better than no way, but you've got to get somebody in his ballpark. Yes, agreed. Totally agree. And then, with Aberdeen, you got to get somebody that was at least as good as Aberdeen at the end of the year, right? Because, now, at the beginning of the year, he wasn't very good. But in a perfect world, you'd get an O-A-equal and an upgrade to Aberdeen, and Moreno and Chandler get better, and then you get better complementary pieces than what you had
Starting point is 00:25:13 last year, where it just felt like it was a mish-mash of parts that didn't really work together. And really, I know the season didn't go well, but getting better than O.A. in Aberdeen, it isn't going to be that easy. It's not. And those guys had a really great year, especially at the end. And I think at the four, however good they are, you need somebody that can space. They just lack shooting at that position this year. Go find, even, I'd prefer a starter, but even if it's an Ansley-Almanor type that just sits in the corner and knocks down threes. Pope needs that for his offense. One of the guys with the role players got to make, got to, like that we know he comes in and makes them. I think that's probably what he
Starting point is 00:25:47 envisioned Trent Noah being, and then he just wasn't, right? You got to have that, I would assume. Speaking of Trent, still no word on him. I don't know. I wonder if they're privately trying to see what the market is or if they have one. All right. We're going to go to the phones. Bob and Jamestown is banned for one week, okay? You got that, Rick, because I can't see the calls, okay, Rick? I'll mark that down. All right. Who's up first?
Starting point is 00:26:11 Joey is up first. Joey, go ahead, Joey. Hey, guys. How y'all doing? Good. I'm calling about the piece that the Johnson put out the other day. Yes. I don't really like it. I think it's selective. and I think if
Starting point is 00:26:26 I mean, I'm not saying Jasper ain't good I'm sure he is maybe on down the road but if you're good the cream usually rises at the top and you'll be able to find minutes and he had every chance in the world last season to find minutes and I just couldn't see him doing it
Starting point is 00:26:42 what do you think about that? I mean Jasper, I appreciate the call especially after Lowe got hurt had every chance to play Kentucky needed him they needed him to play. And when they put in, he was not helpful.
Starting point is 00:27:00 I don't know what else there is to say. I really don't. I mean, you know, now, is that because of something in practice or didn't connect? I don't know. I mean, but I just know that when he came in, the longer the season got, when he came in, the worse it was. To the point that they weren't even playing him at the end, and that was, and when they did in the biggest game of the year, it didn't go well. So, yeah, you couldn't take Aberdeen off the floor because it kind of took a step back, and Aberdeen was playing so well pretty much for the second half of the season.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Go back to the first five games of the year. I bet if you go back and look, Aberdeen was pretty bad. Yeah, he was. And Jasper was kind of not far away from him. Aberdeen grew Jasper didn't. What are you going to do, you know? We all thought at the end of the year play Aberdeen in Oway until their legs fall off. We were getting mad because Pope was benching them because there was just a clear difference in that.
Starting point is 00:27:50 By the way, Aberdeen's trying to get a fifth year. Saw that. I have to tell you, I don't know that he's concerned. I'd love to have him back. I don't want him, I'd want him to be back. Like, I wouldn't want him to be the starting point guard. I'd want to be like a two guard. But if he could, I'd love that, wouldn't you?
Starting point is 00:28:05 Yeah, I don't really get his argument. Good luck on your ace. I like that he's trying. Well, he only has an argument if what I'm going to talk about right after the break happens. So we will talk about that when we return. 859-8-0-2-287. We'll be right back, KSR. Welcome back, Techie, Sports Radio.
Starting point is 00:28:20 8-9-8-2-2-287. Text machine, 772, 775, 254. One person writes, Matt, onions have healing qualities. If your feet hurt and you put onions in your socks, it will make it better. Don't believe that. Never heard that. Don't believe that. Never heard that.
Starting point is 00:28:36 That can't be true. Onions in your socks. Onions in your socks. Anybody ever heard that? We got people here. Sorry, in the back, you look like somebody would have heard it. He's on his phone. So he hasn't heard of it.
Starting point is 00:28:47 There's no way that's true. We need to ask Freddie. Freddie's the one who's got all the crazy cures. I think Freddie would know. Freddie or Richie Farmer will text them in the next two minutes. I know you're listening, Richie. If onions in your socks, if you all did that at Clay County under Bobby Keith, you let me know. One person says, Matt, I eat raw onions and drink whole white milk every day for lunch.
Starting point is 00:29:06 It's part of my health regiment. It actually works. Yuck. That sounds awful. Those are literally the two things that I would say make you a psychopath. I've told you when I see someone drinking whole white milk, I think they're a psychopath. And now if I saw so, can you imagine if you went somewhere and saw someone eating a raw onion and drinking old white milk? You would, that would be, you'd pull your kids next to you and you would move to the other side of the room.
Starting point is 00:29:30 You should send that number to the FBI. Whoever just texted that? Do they sit down and just cut it up? And I just send that and they go, okay, we get it. We're on it. We understand. All right, so before we go back to phones, Ross Dellinger, and, you know, sometimes I like to give people ideas of who to follow because social media can be such a cesspool. But there are certain people you follow.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Like I have people that I think know about various parts of life that I'm interested. Like that dude Phil Stewart that I had on my podcast, he's great to follow about anything war-related because he never gives his opinion. He just says what's happening. And I think that's really good. Like, I don't need your opinion. Just tell me. Except the problem is he types in all caps. Which I'm like, stop yelling at me, Phil.
Starting point is 00:30:13 But he's really good, especially being good during this Iran thing. Similarly, Ross Delinger is the. guy to follow when it comes to what is happening with the NCAA Congress president in terms of the future of college sports. He's on it. He's the number one guy. I don't know who he's talking to, but he has everything first. He said this morning that the NCAA is voting on a proposal next week.
Starting point is 00:30:39 You remember Trump released his executive order. It had like 30 things in it. But they're one of the things that was in it and probably the one that is the least controversial amongst players and coaches and admit. It's the one thing everybody seems to be okay with would be players would have five years of eligibility from the year they graduated high school. Five years, and they can play all five years,
Starting point is 00:31:01 but no exceptions, no red shirts, no waivers. The only exceptions would be for military or for religious mission. But other than that, five years, if you get hurt, still lose one of your years. So five years to play five years, but you can, if you're healthy, play five years of college sports. I think Denzel Abertie maybe sees this down the path. That's why he may be wanting to play another year. So this would go into effect next year, but they have yet to say whether guys that graduated this year would get to participate.
Starting point is 00:31:37 So we don't know. That's still to be decided. But starting for guys who are graduating high school this year, men and women, they all could do it. Do you like it? Yeah, I think I would like that. I mean, there's little things that are trivial, like throw out the record books before now, because every record would get shattered, but that's not the end of the world. So, yeah, I would like that.
Starting point is 00:31:58 I mean, you got guys now, our guy Cameron Fletcher is about to play his seventh year. I think that's extreme. This would end all that. So I'm saying if you limit them at five, sorry if something happens. Your circumstances change. You have a five-year window. I could get behind that. I like it.
Starting point is 00:32:12 I mean, we have to get used to. But, I mean, just think about what could be. I mean, O.A. could play again. Yeah. Aberdeen could play again. I don't think O.A. I don't know. Maybe you would want to if this happens. I kind of think they're going to say guys this year can't do it because it would be just too hectic to in the middle of portal season.
Starting point is 00:32:31 All of a sudden, a thousand new guys are eligible. But I do like it for the future, actually. Do you? I do for guys like football. Football. Aberdeen's a great example because he's not going to get drafted, but he can come back from a fifth year, make more. money that he would make playing professionally. So it does have its advantages for guys like that.
Starting point is 00:32:52 And football, I mean, there's very few guys that play all five years. So, I mean, it would allow football players to kind of, or teams to recruit freshmen and let them. I think, now, I don't like the only one transfer thing because of reasons we've talked about. This is not part of this. This is just five years. But it looks like it's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:33:11 So we're going to have to all kind of retrain our minds to guys are now in college for five years. Yeah, and it throws out waivers. I mean, it'll stink if someone gets hurt a couple times, but you know when you graduate high school, you have a five-year window and whatever happens happens. Like, everybody's in agreement. You get five years.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Like if something, if you get hurt, sorry about it. You got a five-year window. Don't have to worry about it. Case-by-case cases. And you may say, well, why does the NCA want to do this? The reason is this will help them in court. Part of what hurt them in court is they would go, they argued in front of courts,
Starting point is 00:33:43 hey, we can't allow six years, seventh year, whatever, guys, because we have a principle. And then the judges were like, yeah, but you gave an exception here, and you give an exception here. And you're giving an exception here. So you're telling us we have to do it, but you're letting this guy play and you let this guy. And you got this reason, this reason. I think the courts were kind of like, if you're going to tell us you have to do it, you have to do it. You can't just keep letting these exceptions. So I think the NCAA has decided if we just say five years, no exceptions, better chance of it holding up in court.
Starting point is 00:34:19 From my flimsy legal analysis, I think they're probably right about that. It would give them a better chance of that being upholding. You know, we tend to think about basketball, but like you mentioned football, women's basketball, some of these sports where these players will stay an extra year, help them help those programs grow even more. Yeah. So just something to watch could happen next week and start affecting. next year's players, maybe these guys, but probably more likely, next year. Who's next?
Starting point is 00:34:47 Alex is next. Alex, go ahead, Alex. You literally just talked about the topic I was going to call and ask you. I was going to say there's a world in which Matt Jones can create the perfect law for the United States for NIL and transfer portal. What would it look like? I would say if you tell me that there's going to be a five-year rule, okay, tell me there's going to be a five-year rule. If I could snap my fingers and it became law, I would say a,
Starting point is 00:35:20 you can only transfer twice because I think that would allow kids the chance to start at a small school, move up, and then if it doesn't work out, have one more. If you can't find your fit after three schools, then that probably is on you after that. I think you would have something where you have the rev share like we have. You allow private deals but cap the total of the private deals. I think the courts would allow that if they said you can have some private money, but we're going to cap it at a million dollars a player. I actually think courts would probably think that's okay for a variety of reasons.
Starting point is 00:35:59 And I think if you did those things, I think from a court perspective, you'd probably be okay. Now, in a perfect world, you should make these kids employees, but that becomes very complicated. I understand why the NCAA doesn't want to do this. But if you just did those things, Rev Share, five years, two transfers, and they can make up to, let's say, a million dollars you can pick the number in private endorsements, I actually think that would hold up in court, and I would be good with it.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Well, I mean, you're the brains of the operation, so I guess we'll have to. But thank you very much. And also, you're getting a house and stuff. Do you know how to change your ad node rod? I don't even know what those words mean. I don't even know what he just said. My ad noise, isn't that something you get removed? No, it's in your hot water tank, your ad node rod.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Supposed to change it about once every three to five years? Yeah, that's probably not going to get changed. I appreciate the call. You got the good one at last. I asked for the, have you ever heard of ad node rod? I think he made that up This guy I look at this guy
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Starting point is 00:37:31 So if you need help on plumbing I got So if I have a plumbing issue I made quite the main But I fixed it. Richie Farmer chimes in. Who's up next? Do you want Richie's message?
Starting point is 00:37:40 What's Richie's message? No on onions and socks, but they do absorb smells. They do what? Absorb smells, yes. Okay, go ahead, Rick. Richard is next. Richard, go ahead, Richard. Yes, I like the three assists.
Starting point is 00:37:59 The three ball, the teams. Like some of those totally offensive teams. They reminded me of the team with the first year. We get some players that will match up. That's all I got. You all have nice day. It was interesting. Michigan, so we've talked, I've been one of the biggest proponents.
Starting point is 00:38:33 You've got to score, score, score, it's all about offense. This Final Four kind of went in the other direction. It did. Michigan, so listen to these two stats about Michigan. In the four last games, Michigan won to win the title. So against Yukon, Illinois, I think Tennessee and Alabama, they held all four of those teams to their lowest shooting percentage of the entire year. Wow.
Starting point is 00:38:57 All four of them. The three teams that made the final four, the two that they played, but then also who did Illinois beat, or so Yukon beat Illinois, Michigan held all three of those teams in their games to their lowest field goal percentages of the year. Michigan kind of won the title by being big and playing defense. Nate Oates, who I think most Kentucky fans agree, we think Nate Oates is a smart coach. Nate Oates said after the season, I'm not. I'm kind of changing the way I'm recruiting a little bit.
Starting point is 00:39:29 I still want guys that can shoot, but I've kind of now believe you've got to play defense and offensive rebounds. So he was like, I got to start getting bigs again, but bigs who can play inside, not just bigs who can shoot threes. Those were two very prominent coaches, Dusty May and Nate Oates, kind of going against the view of shooting. Be interesting to see if Pope is following it,
Starting point is 00:39:53 or does he go back to the other? It does seem that's the trend. I mean, even Todd Golden, I think, said that. He wants big guys, physical guys. And he had that team this year. And he had that team. And look what they did. They won the SEC.
Starting point is 00:40:04 So, yeah, those Michigan guys, they're just more physical than Yukon guys, push them around. And I think that's now going to be a trend for the years ahead. I thought they blocked everything in that national championship game, too. Yeah, they blocked your exactly right. He could not score inside on them. Commonwealth Causes Ultimate Bourbon Collection Raffle is your chance to win an incredible bourbon collection and support Kentucky charities at the same time. If they sell 500 tickets this month, Ryan, what happens?
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Starting point is 00:44:00 It is Kentucky Sports Radio. 859-28027. Anode rod is a metal rod in your heater that can collect corrosion and that you should change every 8 to 10 years, apparently. Didn't know. I've never heard that. Well, now, there's a lot of people who've written it. I don't think they're making it up.
Starting point is 00:44:19 I'm sure it's true. Yeah. So that's important. One person writes, Matt, you did not answer the guy's question. at the end of the show, and I assumed you would talk about it today, the guy that said that Pope couldn't relate to modern players because he was kind of a dork. Would you guys talk about it, and do you agree? Well, he is kind of a dork, but that's okay.
Starting point is 00:44:43 I don't think he's the only dork in college basketball. I think there are other dorks that are successful. I do wonder. So let's go back to his first year, team, Drew. he certainly connected to those guys. But it was a unique group, wouldn't you say? I mean, it was all seniors. Team seemed to be relatively smart.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Amari was British. Came from Drexel. Came from Drexel. You know, you had a kid from Kobe Brea. I mean, there's a very smart group of guys, especially the starting group. Carr started at Delaware. You know, they're all. Wake Forest.
Starting point is 00:45:23 You know, Can he go relate to the kid that's a top 20 talent? I don't know. I'm not sure. Maybe that's why he has a hard time getting him. But we might find out that that's not who he should coach. Like, it's just not who he connects with. So I think it's legitimate to wonder if they can connect,
Starting point is 00:45:45 but I think it's maybe still a little early to tell because he connected with his first group, even if he didn't connect with this one. That's why I like the Mo Williams hire so much. I even wrote, Moe Williams is cooler than the entire UK staff combined. He is. That's a fact. I said that Moe Williams can walk in the peach jam and execute a proper dapp. And I don't know if we have anyone on the staff that can do it.
Starting point is 00:46:05 I don't mean that to slight them. We knew that when we traded Cal for Pope. We were trading kind of cool for a little more brains and analytics. And I think Mo Williams will be a big help in that department. That's why I like to hire. Interesting. I'm not trying to, you know, it's a good thing to be nice and a little bit of corny. You think our guys can't dapp correctly.
Starting point is 00:46:22 I think Moe Williams is probably the best dapper. we now have on staff. That's true. But Moe Williams is a level of cool that they needed, I think, and that's why I like that hire so much less. Yeah, I mean, everything. A staff can be Ryan like a show. Like, we hired Mario.
Starting point is 00:46:35 He's cooler than us. As a matter of fact, he doesn't know this. We were in with all of our bosses on Monday. We have a new boss. We have, and they were explained, I was explaining the cast members to the new boss. And I was like, so Ryan is this, and Drew is this, and Shannon is this.
Starting point is 00:46:53 and then I got to Mario, and I'm explaining. And then Christy, who's one of our bosses just interrupting and goes, he's cool. Yeah. Thank you, Mario. But that's good. You do need someone like that, and Moe Williams can be that for us. Well, yeah, to back up Drew's point, you're going to dab Mark Pope and Mark Fox.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Maybe not going to work, but Mo Williams, he can got you. What is this? Have we heard about what's the story with Mark Fox? I'm worried about our staff to be on. We are in a pivotal off season, and we're down at least one. and some uncertainty with others. So who is on the staff still? Cody Feger is on the staff.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Cody Figer. Do we assume he's coming back? Yes. He and McLean were in that photo with Pope Cuddy. So they're coming back. We have Mo Williams. Yes. Do we know if Mark Fox is back?
Starting point is 00:47:41 I did not expect him to be back, but it was now April 8th, and the portal season is rolling. So if Mark Fox were to not come back, does that mean there's two staff members open? It is weird. We're in portal season. And it's almost like no one's even acknowledged this.
Starting point is 00:47:56 I'm like, yeah, I brought it up on the show. I think yesterday I'm like, is this a concern that we don't even have a full staff? And Pope's, you know, this is a critical time for Pope's. Heck his job, really, going into next season. And this is moving so fast. The Robinson guy that's set right by the scores table, I think I've not seen anything about him leaving yet. He's still around. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Again, but they just, they have a culture of silence. They're not going to say anything until they have to. Mark Pope, I remember when he came here, he said, we're going to be open. This, this is, this program is your program. We're going to be out. We're going to be talking. We're going to meet, and they have done the exact opposite. And generally speaking, my view has always been when you go quiet, it's a bad sign.
Starting point is 00:48:39 I'm hoping that's not true here. But I think it's a different conversation. I think they've completely screwed up PR for the last year. I hope it improves. Who's up next? Dave is up next. Dave, go ahead, Dave. Dave.
Starting point is 00:48:57 All right, no, Dave. Who's next? Okay, next is Mark. Mark, go ahead, Mark. What's going on, Matt? And what's up? Hey, real quick. Hey, I got a question for you.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Do you think basketball's changed over the last five, six years? I know we always talk about modern offenses, just that and the other thing. But, man, I think right now basketball has changed the fact that you just go with sheer side and power on people. I mean, I look at Yukon when they hit their run, too. with three back-to-back championships. They had Clingon and the other big guy, Florida with Chinlew, Cond, and those guys. Michigan started 7, 3, 6-10, and 6-9.
Starting point is 00:49:37 There's nothing modern about that. I mean, it's just over-o-old. No, you're right. I mean, but they also were scoring 90 a game for a lot of the tournament. I mean, you know. But a lot of those are close to the basket, too. That's true. And I'm a whole lot of three.
Starting point is 00:49:50 You're exactly right. I appreciate the call. You may remember, Ryan, that right before the season, I told you I was listening to an NBA preview podcast. It was Bill Simmons and Zach Lowe or whatever, and they were doing the preview. And they said, in the NBA, things have now dramatically changed. He was like, size is back, and offensive rebounding is back. The whole league now believes offensive rebounding is your key to winning.
Starting point is 00:50:14 I think I said that at the beginning of the year, and I go, I wonder if that's going to come to college basketball. I think it came this year. I think it came this year. I think it came this year. I think all of a sudden, the idea that you got to hit the glass. I think the assumption is, look, these dudes don't shoot very well. Hit the glass.
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