KSR - 2026-08-20- KSR - Hour 2
Episode Date: August 20, 2026Matt, Ryan, Drew, and Shannon talk possible future restrictions on NIL, Facebook Marketplace, racoon bikinis, and graveyards.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....
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859-2-80-2287. Text Machine 772-7-745-25-4. Jack Pilgrim also reporting today
that Mark Mitchell, Missouri is going to try to free up some money for him to potentially return
if the judge does not allow him to play at Kentucky. That would be the worst option.
Kohler goes to BYU, Drew, Mitchell goes back to Missouri and we get none of them.
And Louisville gets more football players.
That would be the worst reaction.
That because you could also add in Kishon Hall from Auburn.
UK kind of just told him no because we're worrying about these other two.
You could have probably still could have him.
And you don't get any of the three.
And at a time when I thought we moved past it,
I feel like the whiff memes might resurface right when we don't need them resurfacing
if you don't get anyone out of this opportunity that's popped up
when you've talked so much about one to add a 15th player.
And they just kind of went through that.
They kind of, you know, Tiring Stokes, they kind of held out for him
and kind of let some other guys go waiting on him and didn't get anybody out of that mess.
Well, hopefully we get one up.
UK has officially announced here in the last few minutes that the Texas Tech exhibition game will happen.
It will be October 23rd.
So we have yet another back-to-back weekend of Kentucky Sports.
I think this is the third one in the season in Lexington.
They will play Texas Tech Friday night to 23rd, 24th on Saturday.
Saturday, Vandy and football.
I mean, there are going to be some great weekends in Lexington.
And Keenland?
That's probably the last weekend for Keenland, that weekend.
Well, the Breeders' Cup's the next weekend.
Uh-huh.
So, I mean, you're going to have back-to-back weekends, Texas Tech, Vandy, 23rd, 24th, Breeders Cup,
30th, and 31st, 13th and 14th, Northern Arizona and Florida.
and then the week at Wichita State and Louisville Thanksgiving weekend.
So you're going to have six straight weekends in Louisville, or excuse me, in Lexington,
where there will be a major Friday sporting event and Saturday sporting event the same weekend.
That's pretty awesome.
That's what it should be.
And a perfect time to right before that have closed a sports board.
Oops.
Well, we can open it back up for those events.
Well, it'll be open in its own unique form.
You still there, Shannon?
Yeah, I'm right here.
Just listening.
I thought you were going to respond to that.
859-280-2287.
All right, it's time once again to play Facebook Market.
Oh, I'll respond to this.
Let's go.
This is your favorite thing, Shane.
You're good at this.
Yeah.
He is good at this.
You're good at this.
Let's do it.
I looked around the state.
I realized that my favorite.
but marketplace was only set around the Lexington area.
So I've been,
I've been Drew looking in other parts of the state.
Okay.
It's the best part.
Owensboro, Kentucky.
Nice.
One of my hometowns.
A woman is selling a size two.
I don't know what size two is for women.
Do you?
That's little.
All right.
No, excuse me, size two, two, four.
So it could be, so it.
No, two to four.
Okay.
Not 24.
Two to four.
So this is a flexible range.
Oh, okay.
A raccoon bikini.
Oh.
Didn't even know they made these.
Well, I don't think you buy this in the store.
This looks to be a homemade, a homemade item.
Homemade, oh, okay.
Gently used.
All the material, you can picture what a bikini looks like.
All the material is raccoon fur.
No.
Can you imagine getting that wet?
Oh.
it's on Facebook marketplace Owensboro
I got to ask
is it printed like a raccoon or it's truly fur
it looks to me like it looks to me like raccoon fur
no
go look at it
I got to see this
no don't look at it don't look at it because we're guessing for the prize
okay I got this sent to me
I have no reason to doubt it's veracity
and it's in Owensburg
what do you think a homemade raccoon fur bikini in Owensboro is going for on Facebook Marketplace?
Ryan.
$75.
Shannon.
Wow, I've seen a raccoon skin hat but never a bikini.
I'm going to go $40.
Drew.
I must be picturing this.
I have $10?
Shannon again, $50 for the Owensboro.
$50.
I know my raccoon bikini cost.
I got to see this.
I got to see it.
I can't wait to look it up.
You guys can't go looking for it right now.
I mean, you can't if you want, but like, do you see it?
No, I'm not looking.
Okay.
Yeah, don't.
You can screenshot and send it to us if you want to.
Yeah, well, somebody sent it to me on the text machine.
It was $50 and it was homemade.
So like, I've never, I've never worn a bikini.
I've seen them on other people.
But I've never worn them.
I'm just going to say, just look.
at it, I would think it has to itch.
Yeah.
I hope it's clean, too.
I mean, so you'd have to kill the raccoon, you'd have to skin it,
then you'd have to sew it into a bikini.
There's a lot of work that goes into that.
That's worth $50.
Yes.
If you're willing to wear it.
And I don't want to go to somebody's house and pick one of those up and then put it on myself.
I want to see, I'm going to buy it for you.
Your housewarming gift, raccoon bikini.
You wear it by your pool.
Let's get the pool.
All right.
Second.
Glasgow, Kentucky.
Nice.
Marin County.
Someone is selling a mint condition
Kentucky Derby Glass from the 1939
Kentucky Derby.
Wow, yeah.
Mint condition 1939
Kentucky Derby Glass pre-World War II
87 years ago.
But it is in someone's house in Glasgow.
What's it go for?
Shannon, you go first.
These are big collectible.
I'm going to say a high dollar.
I'm going to say $150 for this class.
Drew, $30.
Okay.
Ryan.
Shannon's right.
These are very highly sought out collectible items.
I was going to go $200.
What if I told you $22,500?
No.
What?
Come on.
Is it signed?
$2,500.
Yeah.
That's insane.
That's just insane.
It's got to be signed or something.
Signed by who?
The horse?
The winner.
The jockey?
A trainer.
Does anybody know who the 1939 winning jockey is?
Was that?
No.
Who was it?
Jerry Bailey.
No, I don't know if that was.
But still,
I mean, first of all, I'm not saying he's going to get $22,500.
But he clearly thinks it's worth that or like you wouldn't list it for that, right?
unless in that collectible world
that 1939 glasses like the rare
he's like the honest Wagner of baseball cards or something
Maybe somebody I know there's somebody listening
who collects Kentucky Derby glasses
who could answer for me
why this would be 22,000
Somebody I think who accidentally put it up for 22,000
and didn't know what they were doing
Maybe put up like 200 and something
So somebody can tell me either on the text machine or 772-745254
or 859-280-2-82-87,
is it conceivable that it's worth close to that?
My guess is no,
but also, though, why would you put that amount?
And this person says in their description
that they own two of them,
which is why they're selling it,
and that they're looking for the 1940 glass,
if anyone has one.
I've got an answer here as to why it's so expensive.
It says it's widely recognized by collectors
as the first official souvenir derby glass issued,
exceptionally rare, typically value between 5 and 13,000, depending on condition.
Okay, so all right, does that change your thought process?
It's the first one that they ever did.
Yeah, I mean, it would be more than 150 that I guessed,
but I still wouldn't think that would be 22,000 for glass.
But 5 to 13,000, still a lot.
Still a lot for a glass.
Yeah.
And in Glasgow, Kentucky.
All right, last one.
We go to my hometown of Middlesbrough, Kentucky.
The Middlesboro Cemetery, a burial plot secondhand at the Middlesbrough Cemetery.
Now, first of all, let me say, I didn't know you could do this.
I didn't know that like if I bought a burial plot, I could then privately sell it to someone else.
It's not used in the sense that there's someone else in it.
Climb on top of them.
Second hands, if somebody already in the plot, you're going to be on top of them.
We're going to go too high.
I don't like if anyone else is in it.
But I guess this person bought a burial plot at a cemetery,
and they don't need it anymore.
I guess, Shannon, they're not planning on dying.
Yeah.
They're not going to go there.
They're going to go somewhere else.
But they are selling it on Facebook marketplace, which is odd to me.
How much do you think a burial plot at the Middlesbrill Cemetery goes for, Drew?
I will say,
$800.
$800.
I was going to say $300.
No, guys, it's going to be way more than that.
A burial plot?
We're talking about buying land here, right?
I'm going to say...
Yeah, but not land you can live on.
You're going to be dead in it forever.
You're going to die.
I want to say $25,000.
$25,000.
$25,000.
You can just go to the cemetery and buy one through them.
By the whole cemetery.
Okay, well, tell me then how much how much there's a plot cost?
Does anybody know?
First of all, that is, that's a ryan lemon level gas.
If you were to buy a plot right now, how much would it cost?
I don't know the answer to that question.
I guess near a thousand.
If I went to a cemetery plot and they told me 25,000, I'm walking out.
Yeah, I'm getting cremated.
This is a gold plate at there, right?
I think you could get buried in Augusta National for $25,000.
Could you?
I don't know.
I'm going to look up how much a cemetery plot.
Have any of you all ever bought it?
A cemetery plot?
Clearly not me.
My parents just did.
I think they paid a couple hundred dollars for each plot.
That's it.
Well, this is in Otwell, this is an Otwell, Indiana.
That sounds remarkably cheap to me.
Well, here's the answer at the Middlesboro Cemetery.
You can get a second-hand plot for $900.
Drew's 800.
You almost got it.
Remarkably close.
Yeah, I know, ball.
Well, this says here, prices can swing between $350 to over $25,000.
What's because like
The Lexington Cemetery, which I'm sure it's hard to get into
I forgot it's Otwell Cemetery.
That's very true.
So it's Middlesboro.
This is the high-end Middlesbril.
I bet the Lexington Cemetery is not 25,000.
No.
No.
I bet no cemetery unless you're,
I mean,
I would think the only cemeteries that would be $25,000
is if you were buying one in like downtown Manhattan,
if they even have cemeteries, which they probably don't.
That's where I'm going with my $25,000.
25,000 right in the middle of Central Park.
But what's interesting is I can't decide if, like on the one hand,
25,000 seems ridiculous.
But it is your eternal resting place.
Yeah, that's why I was saying.
However, at the same time, the idea that you could get one for $200 seems remarkably
kind of cheap and sad to me.
I don't know.
It's just a hole.
So do any of you all have burial plots?
I do now.
My parents just bought me one.
And it was $200?
I think they paid like $2 or $300 a piece for like...
So I'm going to have to go to Otwell, Indiana to visit you?
I'm God's country up there in Otwell, Indiana.
Of course you want to come up.
So I would have thought you would have been in Lexington.
All these hometowns.
Owensboro?
Just spread your limbs out at different cemeteries.
So we're going to...
So, you know, in 50 years or whatever when you pass, we're going to go to Otwell?
Well, that's where the cemetery is.
Yeah, I don't know where the funeral will be.
I think that's what he's asking.
Or do you want to be cremated?
We just spread you everywhere.
No, I mean, so I'm going to have to, like, we're going to have two services.
One in Lexington and one in Otwell?
I probably.
That's a guess.
I'm not really thought much about it.
So you want to go home?
You're really depressing me right now?
Okay, well, I'm not trying to depress you.
Parade you around from sitting.
Have you all, have the rest of you bought us?
Like, I haven't.
I don't know what I would do.
Mm-mm.
Yeah.
It is kind of depressed.
It's sad to think about.
I'm a Viking burial.
Well, I mean, I know an open spot in Middlesborough.
It's a lot cheaper than what I thought it would be.
With Shannon's budget, he can buy 25 spots.
You want to divide it three ways?
Does all of us bury the show together?
I'm with you all enough.
I don't need a turn of you with you all.
Secondhand plot on top of each other.
He lies the entire cast of Kentucky Sport Radio in one hole.
Except Ryan who's in odd well.
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calvary cemetery in or in louville do you know where that is shannon where's calvary
i don't know exactly where that is no it's at calvary it is it is um plod
is $2,100 to $4,000 depending on view.
View.
What do you care about the view?
You can be looking at the dirt inside of a casket.
I mean, I would think the biggest concern when you buy a burial plot would be like for your family.
Right.
Ease for them.
You know?
Or no.
You know, like, which is why rides in Otwell.
You know, kind of the family thing, you go.
kind of get buried near your family.
Do you want to be buried near your family? Like, is that important?
I mean, I wouldn't have anybody to be buried with here. So I at least my rest of my family,
my parents are all there in Otwell. You got kids. Yes. At some point, that's got to be
split up. Like, I'm married to someone from Northern Ohio. She doesn't want to go to Madisonville.
True. So am I split up from my family and we do Lexington? You see, I don't know. Do I get thrown in the
ocean? I mean, there's so many options. I feel like you're going to agree with me on this.
What's that?
I don't know that I care what happened.
You know what I mean?
Like, do you want to have a burial, like, plot?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't think I want to be cremated.
Why?
I'm not saying I want to be cremated either, but like, would you care where it is?
Like, do you have a, like, I'd like to be here or there?
Yeah, I think I would want to be close to my family if I had a choice.
Because.
I don't know.
Because I guess when somebody came to.
to visit me. They could visit my family too.
We're all right there in one little area.
It makes it easier.
Versus if you're spread out all over the place.
Sounds like none of us here have thought about this.
No.
I've had the thought. I've not made any moves on it.
Because I have a child born in Lexington.
I'm from Madisonville. Abbey's from Ohio.
At some point, we're going to have to break up where people are buried with their families.
It's going to happen. We're all going to die. It's going to be somebody else's problem.
Like you figure it out.
Now, I will say that's a good point.
I have thought about, I'm not trying to be morbid here.
It's not too late for that.
But this is a real conversation, right?
I've thought about if I died after my parents were gone and I don't ever get married.
Like, who's going to deal with everything?
Well, Shannon's got the big budget for the plot.
So I would call him first.
He's got 25 grand to spend.
But it would be an imposition on anyone that I put it upon.
I think that's why so many people.
No, hubby's going to have to do it whether he wants to or not.
Bush Hamden's wife.
So many people as they get older buy these in advance.
We'll call her.
Hey, listen, you're going to have to help.
Two things.
The blondes are still not fixed, and we do not know where to bury Matt.
We've got to dump the body somewhere.
The derby glass.
So how about this, Ryan?
You're not going to believe this.
Mount Sterling.
has an auction house, Caswell Pruitt.
They sold two 1939 derby glasses in the last three years for $30,000 each.
So that's a bargain at 22-5.
I've got some of these derby glasses somewhere in a box.
But you don't have the 1939 one because if you do, you're rich.
I don't think I do.
I'm going to look through a box, though, after the show.
Like I said, it's the Honest Wagner of the baseball card world.
It's the rare one, the first one.
I saw that one and I thought this seems ridiculous,
but I did think, well, there's got to be something to it, right?
And clearly there is.
First edition.
Yep.
Wow.
Who's next? Dusty.
Dusty. Go ahead, Dusty.
Yeah.
My wife's father, he buys and collects the antiques, and he bought antiques store and had a Kentucky
Derby Glass in it and had a bunch of them.
But I rolled around in his truck for like two or three days, and then started looking up on eBay.
Yeah.
And then found out he was a 1942 Derby Glass.
put on eBay and he sold it for $15,000, which is what he bought the store for.
He bought the antique store for.
Is that right?
Wow.
Yes.
And then a doctor from Louisville bought the derby glass and then somehow the Kentucky Derby Museum got a hold of him asking.
He still had the glass.
And he said no.
But yeah, it's expensive because most of them after the Derby race, they would throw down the glass and they had all breaks.
So there was not media.
Yeah, no, I can see that.
Well, that's, I appreciate the call.
That's fascinating.
So we may, you know, Drew, this person in Glasgow may end up selling this glass just for me mentioned, right?
I mean, I think the Owens, the fur bikini is getting sold.
Yeah, we got pictures of it.
We looked at it.
I saw the pictures.
That's not what I had in mind.
You described it right.
That is raccoon fur.
Yes.
Shaped like a bikini.
It's on me for not picturing it in my head.
It was exactly what I said.
Yeah, I mean, you nailed it.
I, you know, I guess the lowest on the derby glass.
I guess the first one ever when people didn't know they needed to save them.
That makes a sense.
Still seems very high to me.
But I completely understand why that one would be several thousand more than others.
If by tonight the fur bikini has not been sold, I'm buying it.
I don't know what I'm going to use it for.
You can hang it up behind like when you're doing the broadcast for the afternoon show.
Oh, there you go.
Right next to like your UK logo.
You know what?
That wouldn't be weird at all, Shane.
That would be completely normal for people.
Conversation starter.
for people to turn on ESPN and be like he's got a raccoon fur bikini next to his UK championship bail.
Who's next?
Jim.
Jim.
Go ahead, Jim.
Hey, man, I got some potentially bad news about Mark Mitchell.
I was on YouTube this morning.
Lance Dahl on Lockdown, Kentucky.
He reported last night that there's a rule in the SEC that you have to, if you're going to go from one issue school,
to another, you have to be in the transport portal
on the original transport portal days.
Yeah.
And since he didn't.
Well, that's true, but.
He said coaches are pushing back,
and Greg Sanky also is not in favor of it.
But if the judge says that this kid is eligible,
and it says that the NCAA rules do not apply,
which is what they're going to have to say to rule him eligible,
then by that logic, the SEC rules would not apply either.
I cannot imagine a scenario where a court would say the NCAA rules don't apply,
but the SEC rules do.
I don't understand what I don't know what any legal basis you could do that for.
I mean, could a judge do it, I guess, but I think that would get overturned.
If the court rules that the fact that these fifth years are eligible,
because there's no rational basis to keep them out,
I don't understand why that wouldn't apply
to inter-conference transfer as well.
I mean, I guess there's an argument it could,
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Mark Mitchell is eligible to play anywhere except Kentucky,
this fan base will lose its mind.
Oh, yeah, that would be a terrible woman.
Yeah, so I think whoever you said, said that,
I think he's right, I appreciate the call.
But I would be surprised, Drew, if that's what were to do, Amy.
Yeah, there is some truth to, I don't know how the SEC could enforce it,
but Sanky just sent out a memo like a week or two ago,
reminding all the teams of that transferring in the conference rules.
So they're trying, but I don't know how that holds up.
Sanky can say whatever he wants, and Sanky can send all the memos in the world.
But a legal opinion is more important than Judge Sanky's opinion.
So some of these conference people think they're God,
and the courts continue to say to them over and over they're not,
you think at some point they would learn.
They're less.
We'll take a break and be right back.
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The funeral text and funeral plot texts are like amazing.
I honestly could do a whole show on people's writings here,
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Why it's browsing?
The derby glasses and the funeral plots, much more interesting.
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It's an uncomfortable conversation to have.
That's what this shows for.
Which one person writes, my wife and I just got in a fight this week about where our location to be buried would.
She wants to be her hometown.
I want to be mine, and we can't find a mix.
which if you guys had to choose today the town you would be buried in, what would you choose?
Shannon, I bet yours is the easiest because I bet you're going to say bullet camp.
Mount Washington, yeah.
Yeah, I think yours is the easiest.
Ryan, you just got apparently, so I guess yours just got selected, right?
Even though I've been in Lexington for 30 years, half my life, Otwell, Indiana is still to me home.
Okay.
Where are you picking?
and Drew.
I've lived in Madisonville and Lexington almost the exact amount of time.
Now Lexington will eventually have a lot more.
But the fact that Lexington will have more years, it's where I got married, and baby was born here.
I think Lexington gets the knot.
Yeah, this is tough.
Because, like, my family is in Middlesbrough.
Right.
So if it happened, like, if I had to pick today.
I guess I would pick Middlesville.
But there's a world where, like, Lexington would make more sense.
But do you have that feeling of if you're in Lexington, you'd be by yourself?
Like, you're all your mom and your dad.
I'm dead in this scenario.
You're not lonely.
Rest eternally resting place.
I'm not lonely.
I'm dead.
He's with everyone in heaven.
He's hanging out.
A lot more lonely alive than he's dead.
The thing is if I'm in Lexington, then Mario, as one textor says, can come
take a selfie in front of my grave and say RIP to my KSR homie.
See?
With a hashtag and pose like real like like like hands.
Do you want to be doing selfies with fans long after you're gone?
They go to Adolf Ruff's grave and do it at the election cemetery.
People do it all the time, right?
Yeah.
My guy, Mani, I go out to his grave and get hammered sometimes.
It's just good hang.
Yeah.
Well, do y'all know I wouldn't watch the golf tournament there a few months ago?
I do remember that.
That's right.
I go and make my visits.
Very sweet.
That is very nice.
It would be great to have a friend that would do that.
Where's Kaywood-Leford bear?
Did Lexington?
Great question.
I would guess probably Harland is my guess.
Or maybe it's Lexing.
I thought somebody said that there was a cat on, was it Kay was it, was it?
Drew.
It was Adolf Rupp's grave.
A Rupp, okay, that was Rupp.
He's in Lexington, right?
Yeah.
It looks like Kay Wood, their service was in Harlan,
and it said buried in a private cemetery.
So I'm going to guess he's somewhere around.
people to know where he was.
So he's in Harlem.
According to UKathletics.com in 2001.
Do you all visit people's graves?
Like my parents and grandparents visit graves all the time.
Like I've been to all my extended family members graves in Sneedville, Tennessee.
But like I don't really visit.
I don't really visit graves.
But clearly, Drew, you did with Manny.
Do you all visit your extended family's grave?
I do.
Yeah, put flowers up there.
For nanny.
Yep, my grandpa.
That's very sweet.
Yep, on a regular basis.
I just went to my grandparents recently, but I hadn't been in a long time.
What's interesting?
I think that's also a country thing.
Honestly, people do that more in the country.
Go visit graves.
Yes, yeah.
So that brings up a good point.
If it's your grave we're talking about and your family and your relatives are down in
Middlesbrough, they would have to drive to Lexington to visit your grave.
But if we're talking about a time, like who's going to be more likely to,
to visit my grave at that point.
I don't have any brothers.
It's going to be people who live here.
Mario's going to take an unflattering picture of your grave, like from the wrong angle.
My man.
Yeah, he's not going to get me.
He's not going to get.
The lighting.
The lighting's going to be bad.
And then I'm not going to like it.
Who's next?
Rick.
Rick.
Rick, go ahead and Rick.
Hi, guys.
Really enjoyed this one this morning.
Hey, Ryan, glad you're back.
Thank you, sir.
A question that I've had for a while.
while. Maybe you've answered it, but it seems like those people wanting a lot of restrictions on
NIL and transfer and wanting the legislation are people or coaches of traditional powers
or maybe, you know, maybe even like Kentucky basketball people.
Correct. My question is this, as a football fan of Kentucky, how does legislation or
limits on NIL or transfer portal benefit Kentucky football? I think it's a great.
question. So here's what I would say. So there are, let's talk about the different, because I'll get
your response on this. Let's talk about the three different systems that could be enacted. System one is
what we essentially have now, a free market. If you have a free market, I actually think it's better
for the non-traditional powers in major conferences. Because if they decide they want to spend money,
there is a path to success.
Now, obviously you have to have people who want to spend money,
but you can have what Indiana had happened.
In theory, Kentucky can do it.
Texas Tech has done it, et cetera.
So no rules at all, better for Kentucky basketball,
maybe not better, or excuse me, better for Kentucky football,
maybe not better for Kentucky basketball.
Because other schools can spend what we do, like BYU, for instance.
Let's say you have rules that limit the amount of money and produce a salary cap.
Probably good for UK basketball because once the money is the same,
then you're going to go where the facilities and the fans and the history are,
probably bad for UK football because Alabama and schools like that will have that argument.
So I think the legislation that is currently before Congress and the Senate actually probably helps power historically powerful programs in each sport.
The third model, which is the one it seems like the SEC wants, is limits, but the SEC and Big Ten get extra benefits because they make more money.
in that scenario, probably really good for UK basketball.
I don't know if it's good for UK football,
because you might be better than Louisville and the ACC and the Big 12,
but you still got to play all these SEC teams that are spending as much,
if not more than you.
So I know this sounds weird,
but if UK football was your only concern,
the system as it stands now,
where it feels like chaos is probably the best system for UK football.
It really is.
It gives us the best chance.
If Stein gets some money and he spends it efficiently,
it's our best chance to be good.
The moment we get a salary cap,
I think it's going to be harder up for us to be good
because the things that have made the powers good in the past
will be hard for us to match.
Does that make sense?
makes a great deal of sense and it seems that of these restrictions and having been a former schoolperson
I think we ought to do always what's best for the kids and it seems like the free market
gives kids the opportunity to do what's best for them I agree everything else is for the benefit of
someone else I'm totally on your side on that and that is why when I hear people say and I appreciate
the call sir because that was a great question when I
I hear people say college sports is in chaos. My argument is, no, it's not. It's in chaos for people
who want to maintain all the power at the top. It's in chaos for some university leaders.
It's in chaos for coaches who are control freaks. But all it's saying to people is spend within
your budget. No one's forcing you to spend this money. And it is, it is, you know,
is best for the kids. I'm okay with some restrictions, like you can only enter the portal for a
period of time. I don't like the one transfer rule, but it's not the end of the world. But I do
think it's the best for the kids. And if you're a UK football fan, the fewer rules, Brian, in my
opinion, the better. Now, if you're a UK basketball fan, probably the more rules, the better,
which is weird, but I think that's true.
It's interesting to hear you lay it out like that that's better for UK football in the chaos world we live in right now.
But you know, Will Stein has always said he's happy with the current situation.
Mark Stoop said he was happy with it.
Because he knows what I'm saying.
Do you think we would have gotten two of the four best offensive linemen in the portal in a world where everybody could offer the same amount of money?
No.
Drew, do you?
No, because there's just so much goes with that.
Yes.
We got it because we were able to.
to offer more money. And that's why I'm a big believer and be careful what you wish for.
All these college basketball, the last two years, the quality of play has been the best it's been
in 15 years. College football had the highest ratings in the history of the sport. Why? Because
there's a lot of good talent. And dudes like Arch Manning came back. Those kind of dudes aren't coming back
in a world where there's no free market.
You think Milan's playing college basketball?
If there's a gap?
No.
No.
So be careful what you wish for.
I understand the desire to have this legislation,
but I think once it happens, the status quo goes back
and it'll be harder for UK football to have long-term success.
That's just my opinion, but it is kind of how I see it.
We'll take a break and be right back.
KSR.
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Bing it up, bone.
I mean it, Shannon.
You and I have to do a podcast sometime on this barry.
Okay.
I just feel like this is the kind of thing you would like approach with rationalism.
Yeah.
And these people's comments are fascinating.
One person writes, my wife and I are arguing right now because of you about where we're going to be buried.
Thanks a lot.
Well, I mean, it's better
I have the conversation now than
you know, die and then not know what to do with your body.
Your kids try to decide.
Kewood's grave is in Kewood.
In Harlan County.
Yeah.
When person writes, Matt, I'm surprised you wouldn't want to be buried
besides your mom and Larry.
Well, hopefully I'm in heaven with my mom in there.
And then does it matter, Ryan, if our bones are next to each other?
it's your eternal resting place no my eternal resting place is in heaven yes i hope right but for your your bones
what what else said but in theory my bones are just they're the earthly part my soul is in heaven
I am with my family, friends, etc.
in heaven, why does it matter where my bones are?
I think you'd feel, your bones will feel closer to be next to your mother's.
My bones don't have a mind.
Maybe they do.
Okay.
It's spirit.
I know we lost you now.
Your bones have spirit?
It's spirit in your bones?
Your spirit.
So you're saying some of my bones, my spirit stays in my bones and doesn't go with me to heaven?
Maybe.
I don't know.
I haven't figured that out yet.
blob of jelly with no bones to be a big blob.
Drew, what do you think?
I just think I love Ryan Lemon.
Yeah, I mean...
He seems a lot more importance in where your physical being will end up being forever,
not as much where you're moving on to.
Well, we're all going to go to heaven.
We all know that.
But now we're going to talk about our physical body.
It should have been laid by your life.
Whatever.
Thought a trash bag.
I don't care.
When we all get to heaven, what a day of rejoicing.
seen that will be, except the part of you, Shannon, that's in your bones. That's Ryan Limson's
version of that. So, okay, I just thought about this. Drew, say your mom and dad and your sister
are all buried in Madisonville. Yeah. You would not be with him. No, you would. You're in heaven.
That's the point. You're not in your bones. Your bones are, your family. Your soul, if you're a
Christian, you believe, and probably what other religions believe, your soul leaves your earthly, what do you
call it. There's a phrase in religion, your earthly whatever, and goes into heaven and there's
nothing left of you here on earth. And even if you want your bones to be together, at some point
people get married and the family's changed, you can't put everybody together. And then there's
also the fact that, and let's be real about this, Shannon, you and I've talked about when you fly
in New York City, there's, there are huge parts of queens that are cemetery. Huge cemeteries and you
don't realize it until you fly over them. And some of the people in there are from like the
1700s. And I often think when I see it, I mean, nobody goes and visits them. You can't even read
some of the names on there. It's so old. But like there comes a point where there is no one on this
world, Ryan, who is going to visit your grave. I mean, do you, do any of us visit our great, great, great,
great, great grandparents graves? No. I don't even know where it is. Yeah. Exactly. So there comes a point
that even this thing you've put on earth to somehow let you live on, no one even sees that.
In 100 years, nobody will even care.
Yeah, unless you like invented the light bulb.
Like I've told you, I go walk that, that cemetery close to my house in Louisville.
Right.
And I've started doing this thing where I'll just pick out a random grave and I will try to research the person online.
just to read what their life was like.
And sometimes you can find their obituaries.
But if you get to graves in the 1800s,
there's no record of these people.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
No record they even ever existed.
There's no even record they existed in some ways.
And so it's like, what are we doing?
Like, we're leaving this because why?
This is depressing.
I know it is.
It's a tough conversation.
It's a perfect sports radio conversation, clearly.
Only one of us on this show have gotten a flat tire in a cemetery.
Maybe that's why Orion has these opinions.
I ran over that little baby's headstone.
Okay, that's why that is the pro.
Okay, I got to take a call.
You ruined that.
I didn't like that.
Bo.
Bo. Go ahead, Bo.
I was going to go back to BYU, but you guys got me all tore up over the burial now.
I don't see the point.
And we've got too many people on this planet.
Why do you want to top all this good real estate when you've already established years from now?
Nobody's going to visit anyway.
That's Rodney Dangerfield and Caddyshake.
Just creamamee me.
Just cremating me as cheap as you can.
Put me in the cheapest turning you can find and take all the money you would have
a big party, play my music, eat my food.
Laugh about how stupid I was.
Appreciate the call.
Heavenly vessel is earthly vessel, right?
Isn't that what you would say?
Sounds right.
Yes.
but back before you got me off track by your entire thing.
But you know what I'm saying, Ryan?
Like I think a lot about these graves I see like from the 1820s or 1830s.
And there is a part of me that says like on the one hand it's sad that we don't remember these people.
But on the other hand, like, what are we doing leaving this here?
What is the reason?
To show people that we existed.
I agree with you.
It's like writing your name on a tree or something I was here.
It is kind of like that.
It really is.
It's almost to like just, hey world, I was once here.
Yep.
That's it.
So when I go to the cemetery, like if I had an aunt pass away and I go to our family area in the Otwell Cemetery, I can see my, my grandpa.
And I'm thinking about thoughts.
That's your grandpa.
There's my grandma.
But will your great grandkids do that?
Will they even know who that person was?
They won't, but they'll know me laying right beside him.
Ryan certainly has strong.
I'm not trying to con.
convince you otherwise.
It's just, now, this is going to be a difficult transition.
Clark's pumping.
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I didn't know that every Friday.
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I did not expect this to get this deep
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Which I might buy for you.
Alumni Hall tomorrow.
I promise that won't be the topic.
We'll see you then.
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