KSR - KSR Postgame UK FB at Georgia 10/4/25

Episode Date: October 4, 2025

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Listen to Superhuman on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome, everyone. It is the local Toyota dealers, KSR postgame show. The Cats take a loss in Georgia, 35, 14, in a game that in some ways, at times felt competitive, and then at times did not, but never felt like a shot that Kentucky could actually win. Okay, so here's what we're going to do. 859, 280, 2287. I genuinely, I mean, we're going to have a lot of time next week.

It's a bye week for Saturday. Big Blue Madness is Saturday. We're going to have a whole lot of time next week to kind of talk about all the various incarnations of U.K. football and where it goes. I want to, this is the best chance to hear from fans. So I do want to open up the phones. And I'm going to let you guys kind of say your thoughts. I think it would be interesting to sort of get, I wasn't here last week, so to get a sense of the pulse of the fan base right now going in to really halfway through this season.

So 859-280-2287. I'm genuinely curious as to what everybody thinks. Let me, I'm going to go two parts. First the game and then bear picture. Game, kind of what I thought, which was Kentucky would not embarrass itself, although it looked early. like they might, but that they never really would have a chance to win, do some good things, but really not, I mean, be competitive but not really competitive. And that's kind of what happened.

I mean, Cudder Bowie, I thought, looked pretty good, actually, probably his best performance as a cat. They threw two touchdown passes, but here's part of the prop. They threw two touchdown passes, and it's the first time in the Bush-Hamden era that that's happened. I want you to think about that stat for a second. In 11 SEC games in the Bush-Hamden era, this is the first time we've thrown two touchdown passes. Well, I mean, there you go.

You're not going to win. I mean, it was the end of the second quarter before we threw a pass to the wide receiver that went beyond the line of scrimmage that was complete. You're just not going to win like that. And that's the way it goes. This team has no receivers that can get open. and they just can't throw.

And then when you play a defense, George is not the defense they usually are, but still you play anybody good, you're going to struggle. A terrible end of first half again. To whatever extent Kentucky had a chance to be competitive in this game, you essentially have to take advantage of any break you get. And because they had a chance to end the first half with the ball

and get the first ball in the second half, you had a chance to double up, which is exactly why you defer at kickoff. You have a chance to double up. And Kentucky ended up with zero points. They drove it down, wasted time. Jesse Palmer correctly called him out for it, said this is terrible clock management. It was. They executed a few plays that made it look like that wouldn't matter.

But then in the end, they had three seconds left. and had they executed the clock management, well, they could have taken another shot at the end zone. But because they wasted time, as Jesse Palmer called it out, then there was no time left, we end up with field goal attempt, and then we miss it. Just a disaster. The end of the first halves, there are probably 15 games in the Stoops era, where the end of the first halves have cost us major. Literally, probably 15 games. I mean, that's honestly only a little over one game a year.

So maybe it's 20 games, maybe 25 games. I mean, at the end of the first half, there's just a disaster. And they've been a disaster, even in Stoop's best years. We've always been bad at the end of the first half. And then in the second half, you go for a drive, and they end up fumbling the ball. So, you know, what do you say? I mean, that's poor performance. And you end up losing the game.

So it's about what I expected. I think I picked 30 to 13. it was 3514, but that's almost exactly what I thought we were going to get today. Now, bigger picture. We head into a by week and this fan base is at least, I mean, maybe the calls will surprise me and I'll come out of this with a different opinion. And if you can't get through, 772-745254 is a text machine. But this fan base is as out as they've been on stoops.

I expect the athletic will have a pretty big major piece coming out about this early next week. I mean, I say that because they contacted me about it, but I think it was coming, you know, no matter what. And when they called me, I said, look, this is the most out fans have ever been on Stoops. And he's been here a long time, but this is the most out that they are. They're out right now. Can he win them back? You know what? No, I don't know if he can.

Even if, let's say he found a way to beat Vandy and Auburn and Louisville or Florida, whatever. We win six games. I mean, I guess people would say, well, I guess he earned another year. But I don't know if anybody would be excited. I'm really not sure there's anything that can be done to get this fan base excited. As I said yesterday on the show, it's a bad combination of being losing and boring, which is a horrible combination. It's not fun to watch and we're not good.

And so why do you want to do it? And then on the other side, you have a basketball program that is fun to watch that is engaging with their fans and has a chance to compete for titles. So people are just going to be like, well, football, what are you going to do? I am very disappointed. A lot of the stuff that I think Mark Stoops did so well, for so many years, they've done the opposite. Forget about on the field, off the field.

We've talked about it. No engagement with the fans. You know, no understanding that we don't know this team. We don't know these players. I mean, the receiver that came in, the freshman, Billy was his name, Miller at the end and played pretty well. That's right. Miller.

Never heard of that guy in my life. Now, granted, I don't like follow it day to day. Well, I mean, I follow it, but I don't, you know, I don't go to the practice. They don't buy this, first of all, that's part of it. But, you know, first of all, how did he not end up on the field before this? But it's also partially their fault that people don't know these guys. They don't know who Cameron Miller is.

That's on them. And so it's real easy not to care about people that you do not know. And that's where the fan base is. So what do you do next? Well, Mark Stoops was very adamant after the game that he wasn't going anywhere. you know, Alan Cutler had reported yesterday that Stoops had approached Mitch Barnhart and asked to be bought out last year. Stoops was asked about it.

He said it was 100% false, and his quote was, there is zero chance I'm walking away. You know what I mean, zero. So put aside whether Alan was right or not, I tend to think that he wasn't right in the way that he put it. I do think they had conversations, but I do not think Mark was like. like, I want to leave. But even if he had been, this statement right here, there is zero chance I'm walking away. You know what I mean, zero. That is not a statement with wiggle room. He's kind of drawing a line in the sand with that. I'm not going anywhere. Now, could that change in seven weeks? Of course it could. But the way I read that is don't expect him to do anyone a favor

and say like, you know, it's best for all of us if we part. That's not going to happen. What's going to happen is either we'll have to let him go, or maybe they negotiate a buyout where we pay almost as much as if we would have had to pay if they fire it. That's how this is going to end if it's going to end. And so the question will just be, at the end of the year, does Mitch Barnhart want to do it?

Unlike with Calipari, I don't think there's a school that's going to go hire Mark Stoops. I just, I mean, maybe, but I doubt it, and certainly not for the amount of money he's making here. So we're just going to have to see if Mitch Barnhart will make the decision at the end of the year. I am of the belief that as long as things are like they are now, and I don't see how they won't be at the end of the year, you cannot bring him back. You cannot come back next year and it be like this. Now, if he were to somehow turn it around, we were to finish seven and five or six and six, then that's a different conversation probably.

But you can't bring this back. Fans are out. They're out. And so you can't do that again. Like, that we came into this year with everybody being down. What would it be like next year? you just can't do it. So my hope is that things get better and that maybe he can flip it around.

But I think the chances of that now are like under 15, under 10%. So we're going to end up with a very difficult, awkward six or eight weeks. But the reality is Mitch has probably got to decide now what he's going to do at the end of the year. The transfer portal comes quick. You're going to have to, if you make a change, have a new coach, have a staff, and then hit the portal. So you can't sit around and like do what he did with Cal where we meet and do a television interview and walk the dog. Like we don't have time for all that.

You're going to have to know, which means Mitch is probably going to be spending these next two weeks deciding in his head what's going to happen. And, you know, I'm a Mitch Barnhart fan. he and I are completely different people and besides sharing like a Christian faith have almost nothing in common but I think he's done a very good job here and I give him a ton of credit for how he's managed the program and I give him bonus credit for how he's managed the last couple years which I thought he was going to be pretty bad at in this NILARA

and I think he's actually been really good with that said he has gotten Kentucky into two massive jams on his own doing with Caliperi's contract and Stoop's contract. He created two contracts, which I understand why he did in the moment. But what they ended up with were two contracts where we had no leverage and we were essentially, I don't know, we're basically at the mercy of coaches. We were at the mercy of John Calipery.

He had a lifetime deal, more money than that. then we could pay him off. And as he slipped, we had to hope something would happen. And then he got saved by Arkansas. Thank you, Tyson's chicken. But now here's another one. And as Billy said to me before we came in, we're just reliving that situation again now.

But nobody's going to come and save this one. Like this one, we are going to reap what we sell. And I think it's important to think about with Stoops' contract. Everybody knows the $37 million that's due within two weeks, all that. But I want you to think about one of the specific things that was in that contract that in hindsight looks indefensible. And I don't know how people, myself included, didn't really realize it in the moment.

Billy's got what, four or five years left on his deal, something like that? Is that right? Sounds about right. Let's just say it's four. I think it might be five, but let's say it's four. we made the deal to where every time we made a bowl game, he got a free, he got a year added to the contract. Now let me repeat that sentence. Every year he made a bowl game, he gets another year on the contract.

And at the time, I believe it was a six-year deal. I'm pretty sure that's right. A six-year deal. But you know what that means, Billy? What? We essentially create a contract for him where we said it was cool for him. to miss a bowl game six times. Think about that.

If you get a free year every year you make a bowl game, the only way it goes from six years to five years to four years to three years is if you miss a bowl game. So Mitch Barnhart paid a coach like top ten money and told him in his deal he could miss bowl games six times. That's what that deal is. I don't think I'd ever connected that until a few weeks ago. Had you? Not until you just said it, honestly. I mean, that makes sense.

So we created a contract to pay a coach top 10 money in the country and said you get six years where you don't have to make a bowl game. And when you do, it'll just keep rolling over. Six free years. Current contract goes through 23,000. June 30th, 2031. So 26, 27, 28, 29, 30. So that was more than that. It was seven years because last year he didn't make a bowl game.

So we gave him a contract where he could miss a bowl game seven times. That's kind of terrible. So while I give Mitch all the credit in the world for all the many, many, many positive things he's done, including some risk-taking he's done. And I think he's done a good job with NIL. If we're honest, he's gotten us in two horrible contractual situations. And we got bailed out on one, but we're not getting bailed out on this one. This one is what it is.

And the coach said after the game, there's zero chance. I'm going. And then he said it again, zero. Well, there you go. So what happens over the next eight weeks? I don't know. I don't know. I think Mark Stoops made clear.

Most important thing that happened today was that comment in the post game. We're not getting bailed out. So now we'll have to see what Mitch does. And ultimately, Big Blue Nation will kind of be waiting. Best possible scenario, I guess we turn it around in the next few weeks. But absent that happening, We're headed for a very awkward seven or eight weeks. But the one thing you cannot have, we cannot have a three and nine or a four and eight season and run it back.

You just can't. You'll lose this football. You will lose this fan base. 859-280-2287. That's my take on it. I'd like to hear yours. We will take a break. Take your calls.

8-5-9-2-80-27. It is the local toy dealers, KSR post-game show. It is the local toy dealers, KSR post-game show. Vandy and Alabama tied at seven, four minutes to go in the second quarter, Vandy driving. You know, hard to say that you can't win, I mean, maybe you can't win a title,

but that you can't be competitive at Kentucky when Vandy's beaten Alabama last year and is on the road going to be leading in a game. day game going into halftime this year. I think they stopped the game. Did a coach get hurt on the sideline? Is that what happening? Yeah, it looks like a coach is down. You see that a lot, Billy. Hope the guys are all right. Who had a worst day? Mark Stoops or Bill Belichick? Oh, Belichick. Because Belichick is just embarrassing. I mean, we care here in the UK world, but the country's a whole doesn't really care what happens with Stobs. But Belichick, I mean,

it's brutal. The question is, who breaks up with him first. North Carolina or Jordan Hudson Hudson? North Carolina. This may be a one-year thing for him. I don't know. Well, why? I mean, what's Jordan, I mean,

it's not what Jordan Hudson signed up for you. Yeah, you might lose both. I think, I think that's true. Fake David Beckham, who I like a lot, he writes this. I think I just want to note it before we go to the phones. That's a completely unfair assessment of the Stoops contract. He got a contract that added a year for a bowl win

when we were winning two games. when it got restructured should the needle have been moved to up to eight wins probably but no one was complaining then i'm not saying that's incorrect it is correct that i me included i'm not sure anybody realized that that was what was happening when he redid the deal i certainly don't think i mentioned that i don't remember hearing anybody mentioned. So I'm not necessarily saying like it was malpractice for him for for barnhart to do it. As I said to you about about cow, it wasn't crazy what he did with cow, but the combination of the cow contract and this contract, those are two really, really, really bad, awful contracts in hindsight. You know, to say that you can miss a bowl game seven years,

years and keep your job. That's what he said in that. I don't know that the extension was a bad idea, but probably that hole you get an extra year every time you do a bowl game. In hindsight, that was maybe a pretty bad decision. But enough of me. Let's go to you. 859-280-2287. Who's up first? Ford. Ford. Ford. Ford. Hi, Matt. I'm 20 years old. Mark Stoves has been the head football coach here since I've been able to form complete sentences. He has given me some of the best moments of my life. I have a picture of me laying next to the goalpost when we stormed the field versus Florida when I was like 14 years old. I sat in my car last week at halftime and cried. This is like watching this team. It's like

watching like a family member like get sick. You know what I mean? Like I care so much. I want the guy to do so well. And then this team that I think is pretty talented, considering like they're old, their experience, they're maybe not the most athletic, kind of like last year's basketball team. But they just stuck. I mean, every single week, we look at this team, they'll go and they'll drive the field. And then, like this week, they had a great, and I mean a great two-minute drill. Well, let me ask you a question. So what's your conclusion? Are you saying like you think, think what?

It is over. You can't bring this back. Yeah. As much as I love soups and I wanted him to do so well this year, I thought the team was going to be okay. They execute poorly, and that's coaching. Execution, there's no reason that a team that's this experience with this many seniors, like the whole offensive line is seniors.

Besides, I think, I understand. Well, listen, I appreciate the call. I might to go to other folks, but that's, you know, you're obviously a very passionate fan, and that's your conclusion. Nick, it reminds me Nick Roush and Adam Luckett, I saw the only thing I got to see live from the game last week, I actually got to watch Nick and Adams' rapid reaction after the game. And I think it was either Nick or Adam, maybe it was Nick, said, this team is marginally better, but like plain worse in some ways.

And I actually think he's exactly right. I do think they're marginally better than last year. But in some ways, the execution and the decision making might even be worse. So, I actually don't, I mean, I don't think Nick was wrong about that. Who's next? Bluegrass. Bluegrass. Go ahead.

Dave, what's going on, Matt? I'll tell you what, let's just get down to the ex and oses about it. I mean, we're not going to get out of the situation. We know that. Like, he's got us locked up. But the gap coverage today, terrible. The tackling today was terrible. Like, we see things like Indiana, we see teams like Vanderbilt,

and we see that there's another option, but we're stuck, Matt. We're stuck. I mean, he's got his handcuffed, and you can't blame him. I mean, you did an awesome job earlier, Strawberry. I do listen to your other podcast. You do. You said it right. Like, why would he give up this money?

He's not going to, but what are we going to do? Yeah. Well, I mean, I think you're going to probably. it's great question. I appreciate the call. I think he's going to probably just have to Kentucky's just going to have to decide to eat it. That's probably what, I mean, that's what they'll have to do. And I don't think they were willing. I know they weren't willing to do that last year. Are they willing to do it this year? You know, I don't know. I don't know. I think a lot of it will depend. I actually think the fans will have an impact. Because I think Mitch's inclination would be to not do it, to not let him go. but he might not have a choice. He didn't have a choice with Joker. I don't know what his personal feeling was,

but he didn't have a choice. I don't know if we'll get there with this or not. We'll have to wait and see. Have to see what it looks like after the Texas game, the Tennessee game. Those are two home games coming back to back where there'll be big crowds, and part because of our fans,

and part because of the road fans coming, see what happens. Because then that Tennessee Tech game, okay, now that's a difference. It's a different situation crowd-wise. Diego Pavia, good grief. What if they win this game? Who's next?

Jackson. Jackson. Jackson. Hey, I'm in the same boat, kind of that the first caller said. I'm 20 years old. My first memory of Kentucky football in general was my dad took me to a Southern Miss game at Southern Miss. And we barely won that game. It's a good game, though.

We came back. We came back. That was a fun time. Yeah. Jordan Jones, if you remember, You remember Jordan Jones spit on the fans after the game, which wasn't a great moment. But go ahead. The thing that made me fall in love with that Kentucky football, even during that time of having losing

streak still now to Georgia, losing every now into Tennessee, being destroyed by Florida, never even in my lifetime seeing a Florida win until later on. The thing that made me fall in love with this team was the fact that they looked like they had energy. Mark Stoops looked like he cared and wanted to win. And then it was just like, all right, we need more talent. He has the energy. We just don't have the talent.

Now it almost feels like we have the way to get the talent. And he just energizes our mascot was today at the game. Just sitting down. I think that is exactly 100% correct. The thing, Mark Stoops was never like he's not, I don't know, the rock star intellect of college football coming up with creative play calls. He was always old school, discipline, work hard, you know, be no penalties, be all that kind of stuff.

And then the theory was, we can't get the talent. But then he goes and gets the talent and you're exactly right. We've lost some of that now. We've lost all the things, the sort of fundamentals and all the things that were why we like Stoops and his energy level and his. connection to the fans and you're you are exactly right we can forgive if we lose because george's got a better roster than us we can forgive that what we can't forgive is george's got a better roster and they play harder and they're smarter and they make good decisions like that's what i can't get over

i can get over their players are better i can't get over that they try harder and that they're smarter. And the last thing I'll just leave it on, you can tell the motivation. The thing that I took away the most, because I watched the whole game kind of shows you how bad it's been the fact that I watched the whole game of that. But at one point, I think we were down 28 to 7 and Georgia's on the goal line. They have a bad play and they can't get it off. Kirby calls a timeout.

And you can hear audibly over the mic on the broadcast, him have a hot mic. Mike Momick yelling at his team. Why is he the one yelling at his team when he's up 28 to 7? And when we have a spot like that, you look at soups and he just looks, he doesn't look mad. He just looks annoyed and doesn't say nothing. But I appreciate the call because you demand excellence. I mean, you know, part of how you have success is you say we're not going to have bad, bad games, bad plays.

And Kirby's always done that. A lot of the great coaches do it. They coached to the last play. Who's next? Max. Max. Go ahead, Max. Yeah, first of all, I'd like to know who is going to beat Georgia today anyways after they lost last week, number one.

And number two is you got the ref calling on critical plays, you know, and that they missed a couple of calls that they even announced on TV. And then how does Billy feel about that big WKU running back over there, and they're 5'0? Topps looks good. All right. Those are three very different points, but all right. I mean, I don't know if anybody was going to beat Georgia today, but I can tell you that there's a lot of teams that would have made sure

that they ran the clock correctly at the end of the first half, so they had another chance at the end zone, right? A lot of teams would have done that. So I'm not asking to win. I'm asking, let's not do, let's not be both less talent. and also less prepared and also less smart. I don't think that's too much to ask. Vandy's not going to get out.

I'll take, they may not win this game against Alabama, but they won't be outsmarted in this game and they won't be out-hustled in this game. Why can't we at least do that? I don't think that's too much to ask. Who's next? Stephen. Stephen. Stephen.

Hey, Matt, longtime listener, first time caller. Who I? So my thing is, I've been a fan. I'm 42 years old. I've watched the ups and downs of Kentucky football. And you as well as I know back in the day, long before we were alive, Kentucky made a decision that we're going to be a basketball school over a football school. Now with NIL and the money that the university says they have with Rebshare and everything,

why can't we be good at both? We can be good at both. I don't think we can be championship level in football, but that's a different question than can we be good. Okay, so I'm with you. I think that the Rev Share and the NIO changed it to where Kentucky can now be good regularly at football. I don't think they can be championship level,

but right now we're the worst team in the SEC. Which I totally agree. Moving forward, if Barnhart decides he's going to give Stoops one more year, we have to go out and make a splash higher as an O.C. either we got to hire Jimbo Fisher to come in and run the offense. We got to hire Mike McDaniels, the head coach of the Dolphins. If he gets hired, we have to have somebody come in and take control of the offense and tell Stoops, hey, listen, this is my show.

You stay out of it because. But do you think that would work? I mean, do you think, let me ask you a question, in all seriousness. Do you think that would work? Do you think people would get excited about that? I mean, just to give me an example, we had Liam Cohen, who may be the hottest play caller, one of the three or four hottest play callers in the NFL right now.

We'll see if that continues. We had him. And obviously with Will Levis, we had a lot of success. But with Devin Leary, who by the way is still on NFL rosters, we really didn't have a great offense. I mean, do you think getting the offensive coordinator is going to make a big difference? We've got to do something because what we've done over the last, what, three years, it's been atrocious.

We've got to do something. Now, if we move on to, my second point is, if we move on from students, It's an SEC job. There'll be people lying enough to get it. But everybody talks about John Summerall. John Summerall is not going to take the Kentucky job only because he's been here and Stoops is going to tell him exactly what's going on. He was here before Stoops. He was here before Stoops.

I don't know if John Sumerall will take the job or not, okay? But Stoops will not be the one who decides whether Sumerall takes the job. He was here before Stoops. He knows. Yeah, if you had to pick, say we move on from Stubbs, who's your top four right now today? I don't know enough. Yeah, I appreciate the call. He's probably number one.

I don't know after that. I mean, we had a conversation on the pregame show about Will Stein, and I, you know, I think he's obviously, you'd be lucky to get him to, but there are other guys like that that I just don't. I think what Kurt Signetti at Indiana and what this coach here at Vanderbner, built. What these guys have shown me, the guy that's at Mississippi State, you know what, let's go get a young, smart, energetic guy embracing the current new college football world of NIL and all that stuff. You know, Bill Belichick shows you can have all the big names you want, but if you don't understand the new world of college football, it's irrelevant. Go get me somebody

smart, like really smart, who's going to attack this energetically. and who knows, I maybe have never even heard of the guy, but he could be the right dude, right? Kurt Signetti's not a big name, but it worked. And so that's what I would do. And then it's going to be up to Mitch and whoever does it to make the homework to make sure it's the right person. 859-2-80-2287. Let's take a break. Vandy just scored a touchdown.

If they win this game, dude, if they win this game, Billy, they could go to the playoff. Vandy. And that's two in a row. DeBore has lost to Vandy. I don't know how you survived that. It's not over yet, though. He's got a whole half. We'll take a break.

Be right back. It's a local toy dealers, KSR post game show. Welcome back. It is the local toy dealers, KSR post game show. 859-2802287. I'm going to read you two comments here that I think are interesting for the text machine. First, one person writes, this is Ellen and Frankfurt. I'm headed home from the Georgia game.

So clearly this person cares. They went to the Georgia game knowing what was going to happen. I agree with your statement that the football program lacks fan engagement. To give an example, with many new players this year. I just wanted a program so I could know the players on the team. I had to go to multiple places in Commonwealth Stadium to even find a person selling a program. It was a woman in a booth and it was $10 cash only.

She only had a handful of them and she remarked about me buying one. I like to know the players on the team and I don't feel like they did anything to help me know it. I actually think that's a legitimate complaint. you know, not finding a program. But, I mean, this is a woman who travels to Georgia for the game. She just wants to know the players. And you all didn't do anything to make that happen. How many fans out there could have known anything about the players that were not

Cutter, Bowley, you know, maybe Alex Safari, she-a-z, but that was only because the interviews he did on KSR, like nobody knew anything. That's – so then when things are bad, that just makes it worse. And then I think this is also a really good one from the text machine. At what point does the opportunity cost lost with tickets, NIL donations, etc., outweigh having to pay the buyout. There has to be a point where payment stoops meets what you'll lose by keeping him. Yes, there is that point.

And I think we're getting very close to it. I don't think we were there last year, but we're going to get close to it this year. and, you know, I don't have the numbers to tell. But when I got people coming up to me yesterday at Shady Ray's 22-year season ticket holder saying, I'm not doing this next year if things don't change. Yeah, that starts to add up. And, yeah, I don't know when you get to that number, but that number, there is a number where that happens.

Alabama just scored so it'll be tied. It looks like at halftime. Who's next? Chase. Chase. Chase, go ahead, Chase. Hey, Matt. How you doing?

Doing good. I just got a couple of things. I'm 22. My first memories of Kentucky football were the Mike Hartline and Randall Cobb teams. We were never great. We were good. But those teams were fun to watch. They were.

Mark Stoops teams have never really been exciting. But when we were winning, it didn't really matter. And now that we're losing, that's a terrible, terrible combination. So what I want to say is that I think we need to be real with ourselves as a program. The majority of this fan base is ready to move on from stoops. Like you've said before, the apathy is setting in, and most of the fans are already turning the page to basketball season. Outside of the 2018 and 2021 seasons, when we lucked into NFL-level talent guys like

Josh Allen and Wondell and Benny, it's been the same story the second half of his career. 7-win seasons, middle-tier bowl games, that were four and four in, by the way, and Stoops getting out-coached in the must-win big games. So my question, Matt, I have for you is this. With the buyout in mind and the fan base checked out like it is, does Mitch start looking at someone like John Summerall, a guy who knows the program has proven he can build and win at Tulane

and could bring the energy needed to get the fan base back and engaged in Kentucky football moving forward. Well, first of all, appreciate the call. That was actually a great call. As a matter of fact. I loved your point, and I love the way you set up the question. I think, Billy, that he had written that down. No, I do. But that's not a criticism, because I actually think that was a really good call.

Like, I think if you just looked at structured, that was a call that literally could have been the intro to a segment on a radio show. So I'm going to give you a shout out. But I think he had it written down, Billy, because if not, if you didn't write that down and you did that live, then you ought to think about doing a podcast. Yeah, give us a call. We may need to KSR guest up. No, I'm serious. If you're 22 years old and you did that without writing it down, then, yeah, you can do this.

Now, if you wrote it down, I still give you a shout out for it because it was still good. But I'm just saying, I think you wrote that down. But either way, your point is good. At what point does it happen? I'm just going to act like it was me, okay? any good leader has to think of all contingencies. I remember sitting with Mitch Barnhart one time, and he told me this was years ago,

that every single program out on his campus, he had a list of three to five coaches in his desk that he kept constantly updated that if he needed to replace a coach, here is my wish list. He told me that once. For literally every sport, all 19 or however many they have on campus. If that's the case,

and I believe him, why would he have said that otherwise, then he's got to list the names. And I think what Mitch needs to do between now and Texas is Mitch needs to sit there and think, he needs to do the number calculation, the text machine person just asked me about. What's the point of no return? He needs to sit there and think,

if I need to get a money for a buyout, where would it be? Do I want to bring him back? If I don't bring, what does he need to do in the next seven to games to bring back? he needs to have that thought because there needs to be no surprises. There can't be like there was after Cal a handful of days where you were trying to figure it out and then like, let's go on TV and sit next to each other awkwardly. You just got to know.

If he doesn't win six games, it ain't half. Like he just needs to know. And then he needs to have that list. And if I believe what I believe Mitch, he told me years ago. He has a list for everybody. So he has a list. And I think on his list going into this season would have been two names. John Sumerall and Brad White.

Brad White, I think he's a good coach. He can't be on there now. You're not going to get the fans back if you switch to Brad White. So Summ Raw. And then there needs to be a second lit group. And at that point, there's a lot of names. And some of them I probably don't know. Most of them I probably don't know, to be honest with you.

Who's next? Jose. Jose. Go ahead, Jose. I just want to criticize the variety of offensive plays that. that Bush Handen has. I mean, we have just flick pass, sweeping to the left, flick pass,

sweeping to the right, run down the middle. How many passes have we thrown that go in the air for more than 10 yards? Very few. Jesse Palmer, who I think is a really good announcer, in addition to hosting the Golden Bachelor, was without being mean, if you read between the lines, pretty brutal towards Bush-Hamond today.

And rightfully so, in my opinion. Who is more apathetic? The fans towards stoops or stoops towards the fans? Fans towards stoops. Stoops cares about the fans. I mean, I appreciate the call. He's, I do not believe him. He said today, like, you know, I think he was with Tom in the post-game, Billy.

Didn't he say something like, I promise it doesn't bother me when people said, Did he say something like that? Criticism doesn't get to him. That's not true. That's not true. Part of why I've always liked Mark Stubes. Mark's probably not going to be thrilled with me over my comments yesterday and today, and that's unfortunately part of doing this gig.

But part of why I like Mark Stubbs a lot is he wears his heart on his sleeve and he cares about what people think. And the thing about caring what people think is when you care what people think, it's harder because it hurts. If you don't care what people, if you have no shame, then it's easy to do pretty much anything. But if you care about what people think, it can be hard. And, like, Cow didn't really care what people thought.

Cal cared what some people thought, but I don't think he cared what the general public thought. He cared what specific, like sports writers or maybe what his fellow coaches thought, but he didn't care about what kind of a general fan thing. Stoops does. He can say with Tom, I don't hear the criticism.

He's not telling him. the truth. He does. It does bother him. So I think the fan base is more apathetic. Stoops, I'm sure this is eating him up. I have not talked to him since the season started, but I know it's got to be eating him up. What I know about him, this is eating him up. And I don't know why he says things like that. I think he thinks that sane the criticism doesn't bother him is the right thing to say. But I would just say to him, dude, be honest. It does bother you. if you say that, people will look at you more like you're a human and you care. You know, one of his biggest strengths early on is that people thought he cared,

and now I think people think he doesn't, and why does he want to give that impression? Because I don't even think it's true. The quiet off season didn't help. Yes. Why did he do that? That's not you. I feel like he's tried to be someone he's not the last few years, and it's only been to his detriment, in my opinion.

Who's next? Jerry. Jerry, go ahead, Jerry. A quick thing, and I get off. I think we're letting Bradford the receivers. He did note that, yeah. Okay, I'm sorry. No, no, no, don't apologize.

You're right. He made that point. He made that point. You're exactly right. Go ahead. And Jesse Palmer, you've got to play bump and run. Yeah. And it's just like all it was, man, was like pitch and throw.

And I lie Brad White. But I teach something else that just kills me. You bring a freshman, a true freshman off the bench, and he looks like your best receiver you got on the team. Yeah. I think he was out of New Jersey. Yeah, Cameron Miller. We've got kids on knowing like Gilmore and Law and that bunch,

but the kid from New Jersey comes, if you can't get open, say. Yeah, no, I mean, he better play more. I mean, that kid, like I said, I appreciate the call. I'd never heard of him until today. He better play more. He was the best player we had on offense. You know, I don't like, I think sometimes it can be tough reading people's body language. We sometimes read too much into it.

But I don't know, Billy, that picture of Gilmore-in-law on the sideline at the end, And boy, that didn't look like two dudes that were completely engaged. Yeah, and Jerry's right. I mean, Kentucky allowed 12-play, 75-yard drive, the first drive of the game, and then followed it up allowing a 13-play 96-yard drive. Yeah, those were – Brad White's defense, which I think is generally speaking pretty good, they did not come out of the gate well. Now, I do think they played better after that.

But, yeah, that was – they got dominated at the beginning. I thought after that second drive, we were going to lose it. It was – Really? 45 to nothing, but then we at least got a little better than that. One more and we'll take a break. Who's next? We got another Jerry on the line.

I thought the last one would be this Jerry. I'm going to guess this one is that's Jerry. What's up, Jerry? Hey, Matt. You know, you take me a hard time about being negative full season. And the reason why is I just didn't see how with the same offensive coaches that couldn't coach all that talent last year, the defense is going to be able to hold the off team out enough points

that the offensive score points. to beat him. And that's where we are. And, you know, at this point, something happened with, like you said, something happened with Stu was about the kind of pony up. That whole thing changed. He started making, it's just some disastrous decisions, and I'm not going to go for all of them, but. No, you're, you're right. That is the moment. Just for the record, I, Jerry, I give you a hard time a lot, but you are 100% correct. Something happened in the way that he looked. at this job and fan base somewhere around the pony up. I think we will look back one day and say the fall of the Stoops era started with that fake

pun against Missouri. Because if you remember, I remember I was there. Yeah. And I don't know if that was, was that before pony up or after. I can't remember. It was one of those two games.

Either Missouri came before Georgia. It was after pony up. Did Georgia come before Missouri or the Missouri? Did Georgia become Missouri or did Missouri become Georgia? I can't remember. But either way. Missouri was before Georgia. Missouri is before Georgia.

And we got George down there. And he came back with that pony up comment. Yes. And I remember being like, and I appreciate the call, Jerry. I remember saying, you know, losing to Georgia is not the problem. The problem is we lost to Missouri. That was the problem. And when he said pony up, I remember thinking, dude, this is not what you're like.

You're not that guy. Why are you saying this? something during that period. You're exactly right. I think his whole way he looked at this thing and the way he talked and all that, it did change then. And I honestly don't know why. I honestly don't. But you're right. That's the moment. That two-week period of the fake punt against Missouri, when we're up 14-0, they do the fake punt and then come back and beat us at home. And then the pony up after the Georgia game. that that was that was when it changed 85928027 we will take a break take a final segment we return it's a local toy dealers ksr post game show welcome back so a couple things here you got UCLA leads Penn State 27 to 7 how's that possible UCLA is awful like they were going to go 0 and 12 this year Nico at quarterback too I mean, they literally, well, they fired their coach.

Obviously, I think their coach is what? Deshawn Foster? Foster. Yeah, I think so. Clearly that was a mistake because they fired him and at least their, but Penn State, you can't lose this game if you're Penn State. You know, with the game being over, what are you going to do tonight? Rare Saturday night off for us.

What are you going to do? Oh, you know, probably pour up a mimosa, watch Florida State, Miami. Just enjoy the evening. Bad Bunny? Bad Bunny on SNL? You're going to do a little bad bunny? You know, I got to get into Bad Bunny if he's going to be the Super Bowl halftime show. Yeah, I heard everybody got mad about that while I was going.

Why was everybody upset? Well, that's just the vocal minority I think you see on social media. I think he'll be fine. He's entertaining. Yeah, I mean, he's a huge star. Of course they, I mean, I would say what? Next to Taylor Swift, he's probably the biggest star in the country, right? So you got to get the bad bunny.

I don't know one Bad Bunny song, though, do you? No, that's the problem. I really don't. I mean, that's just me. I mean, I just don't know any of them. I think I've heard him. I will say he's good at wrestling. I'm not like.

The best pop that I've ever seen in wrestling history was when they introduced Bad Bunny to wrestle in Puerto Rico. Oh, he was. I've played that, I think, on the radio, on the show before. But go look at it if you've never seen it. When he comes out to wrestling Puerto Rico, I don't know if I've ever heard a louder interest. and it's kind of awesome. And that song that they sing when he comes out, he better perform that at the Super Bowl.

Because that's the only one I've ever heard. All right, who's next? TJ, who's up? TJ, what's up, TJ? Hey, Matt, glad you're back. Good to hear your voice again. Hey, listen, I got two points real quick. I got two points real quick.

Dane Key, Barry on Brown combined, have more receptions this year than the top five Kentucky-wide receivers. Yes, it may have been the best. interest in their careers, but I don't think it was good for Kentucky. My second point, on that point, by the way, and it's not like they've been tearing it up those two. You know, you're right, but it's not like those guys have been killing it.

So it just goes to show how bad we've been. But go ahead. Yeah, exactly. My next point, 2018 team, 2021. We won 10 games. If you look at the coaching staff, there's only three people left. And that's Mark Stoops. That's the defensive coordinator.

and that's 80 grand, which I don't know what he does. But I don't think Mark Stoops has continuity anymore. Henshaw left, Somerall left, Vince Marl left, and we've had seven quarterbacks in the last four years. You can't do that. You cannot win in the SEC with no continuity. Great points, both of them. Appreciate the call.

I think both those are really good points. I didn't know that about the staff, but it makes sense. They have had a lot of turnover. And I don't think they had. as much of that those first few years. So that's a really good point. Andy Grant is not even really on the coaching staff. He's kind of in an administrative role now.

Let's do five more. Who's next? Brian. Brian, go ahead, Brian. Hey, Matt. Just two quick questions. I want your opinion on. First, bigger picture. Why isn't Mitch Barnhart getting more heat for the contract set up with

stoops than the JMI contract? He should get more heat for the JMI thing is, I think we're going to see how that plays out. I have my opinions on it, but I think we've got to see what happens. We might look back at it and say it was a progressive thing to do. We might look back at it and say it was a disaster. I don't know. I mean, I think we still, my initial inclination is I don't like it,

but I also know there's a ton of unknowns about the future, so I'm not ready to completely crush it yet. I will say he should get more heat about the stoops and Cal Perry contracts, but to be fair, I try to be fair to people. We didn't really, I criticized the Cal Contract a little bit at the time, but not a ton. I really didn't criticize the Stoops contract at all, but I don't think it hit me until I was in South Africa after we lost to South Carolina. And I thought, man, let me think about Stoops' contract. And it kind of hit me that all those years were basically free years to not make a bowl.

And I was like, oh, wait a minute. So I think that was a really bad deal. but I don't know that anybody necessarily processed it in the moment. At least I did. Yeah, it just seems, you know, from a business standpoint, like caller mentioned earlier, an opportunity cost. He's just kind of put us in a bind, and you look from a bigger picture,

you might see a little more heat going on Barnhart's side. But the second question was, you know, he doesn't finish out the season as OC. Yeah, I appreciate the call. I mean, if they were going to make a change at OC, you do it like tomorrow or Monday. I kind of was listening to see if there would be a hint of that, and I didn't hear anything today.

But if you're going to do that, you do it Monday. You got two weeks to install the new guy. You know. You just got two passing touchdowns, Matt. I mean, should you? I don't know that it will help. I mean, I really don't think it'll help. So if it's not going to help, what's the reason to do it?

But do I think it would be ridiculous to do it? No. But I don't think they will. I don't think they will. It's just, I mean, have we done, have we ever done that? Can you think of a time? Midseason like that? That Mitch Barnhart has let any coach go midseason.

I can't, I don't think that's ever happened. So I would just, I would be very surprised if they did. Four more. Who's next? Jason. Jason. Go ahead, Jason. Hey, Matt, thanks for taking my call.

First off, this isn't what I call back. Since you referenced the Missouri games, I did want to say I was also at that game that was a fake punt. We had for like a bunch of deadball, like personal foul filming. We did, yep. And we were complaining about it. And there was a guy that walked up to us and said, hey, you want better football. You got a pony up.

So that had to have been before that because I specifically remember a guy saying that kind of Oh, really? you're saying that somebody said that before? Yeah. Huh. Yeah, during the Missouri game. Yeah, somebody said that during the Missouri game. I can't remember what the order of that was, whether Georgia was first or Missouri.

But I know he said it. I know he said it after the Georgia game. Right, right. Mike, what I'm, yeah, so what I wanted to get at was, so you did a really good assessment at the beginning of this show. I won't rehash too much of that, but I did, except for the conference. You talk about the contracts and the buyout. So I did some number compiling, a stat compiling earlier this week, and this is going to include today.

I'm going to give you his record against the teams that we played that were in our division in Louisville since he was hired at UK. So here we go. Georgia, and you can tell me what you think in relation to the contract numbers, how you would rate that. Okay. Georgia, oh, and 13, Tennessee, 2 and 10, Florida, 4 and 4. and eight, South Carolina, seven and six, Vanderbilt, eight and four, Missouri, seven, and four, Louisville six and five, which is a total of 34 and 50, and of course, we still play some of those teams, the ones we hadn't played.

So it's interesting. So you've got an eight and four record against, against, what did you say? It was against Bandi? Eight and four. Yeah, eight and four against Vanity. Missouri, you know, was in our play. Okay, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Seven and six against South Carolina.

What was Missouri, you said? Seven and four. Okay, so essentially you've got a winning record against Vandy, South Carolina, Missouri, and Louisville, losing record against the rest of them. What that tells me, and I appreciate you bringing those numbers, appreciate the call, what that tells me is that for Kentucky football to be Kentucky football, and to be successful. You really have to sit there and say, Vandy, South Carolina, Missouri, Louisville, those four,

when we're better than them, we're good, and when we are not better than them, we are bad. Seems pretty simple, right? What has happened is Missouri, Vanderbilt, and Louisville went and got new coaches, went and got smart coaches, relatively young, And they went and they got intellects with good offensive minds. Vandis might be a defensive mind, but smart, like really intelligent coaches, put them in a different direction and said, we're going to do this a different way. And they had a lot of success, all three of those schools.

And then South Carolina, for all my frustration about Beamer, he has his own thing that sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. But ultimately, maybe the success of Mark Stoops is, you better in any given year than South Carolina, Vandy, Missouri, and Louisville? Now, those teams may change now because we are changing our schedule. So now those teams might be South Carolina, Louisville, and then I guess whichever of Vandy, Old Miss, Arkansas, you draw that year. But really, it's just that simple.

Are you better than South Carolina, Vandy, Missouri, and Louisville? And the reality is, you could make a strong argument. that you have to go back a long time to find a time we've been farther behind those four schools than we are right now. Even in the Joker era, at least Vandy stunk, although they beat us 40 to nothing that second year. But I don't know if in my lifetime, or at least in my recent lifetime, we've been farther from South Carolina, of Vandy, Missouri, Louisville than we are right now. So maybe it's just that. Maybe it's that simple.

South Carolina, Vandy, Missouri, Louis. Three more. Who's next? By the way, October 7th, 2023 was UK losing at Georgia, 51 to 13. October 9th was the pony up comments. And then they lose to Missouri, October 14th, 3821. So a week later. Yeah, that was what I thought the chain of events was.

We get blown out by Georgia. He makes the pony up comment. and then we follow it up by blowing Missouri. That's it. Because I remember, and that would make sense to the guy saying people were screaming it at the game because he had just said it a few days before. That's it. There you go.

Three more. Who's now? Dale. Dale. Dale. Go ahead, Dale. Hey, Matt. I'm glad he made it back safely from your big trip.

I know we was all praying for you that you get back home place. Thank you very much. Well, no, absolutely. I mean, we traveled internationally. We know what that's all about. But my question for you is, so my family were not that well off. They made the decision to get season tickets back when Stoops got hired way back in 2012, 2013, so fired up about that.

They've had them ever since. And now they're talking about, well, how are we going to recoup this money? Because I think, I mean, it's only two tickets and, like, we kind of pass them around and everything. Like, I'm kind of asking. business advice from you. Like, can we make some of that money back from, like, Texas and Tennessee and maybe, maybe even Florida, you know, if they have a couple of hours?

You won't make it from Florida because they don't travel. You know, I hate to tell you to sell tickets to the other fan base, but if you need to, Texas and Tennessee, you probably could, you probably could sell. They're fan base. I think, now, Tennessee, those people can drive up day of. Most Texas people, if they're going to come, they probably already planned it, right? So, but yeah, those are two games. Florida, their fan base doesn't travel unless they're really good and they're not really good.

Well, hey, that one more thing. I got to give a shout out to Drew because his maroons are 7 and 0, and we solved this UK football problem in less than a minute last week. Just asked Billy. All right. Appreciate the call. What did you do? How did you solve it?

Bye-bye. Appreciate the call. Billy? I don't remember, but I'm sure it was a great answer by Drew. Well, he's saying you and Drew solved it. remember? No, but I do remember that post-game show after the loss to South Carolina, and it wasn't really anger.

It was just like realization of the situation. Well, I hope you were it. It was only a week ago. So if you've forgotten that might be bad. Who's next? Isaac. Isaac. Isaac.

I think you kind of hit on the point I'm most frustrated about a minute ago. Kentucky doesn't have to be bad at football in this new area. of Bandy and Indiana, who are two programs that you could say are actually worst at Kentucky historically, are having some very good success right now in the new NIL area and all that stuff. So I think what's most frustrating to me about being dragged through the magic Mark Stoops right now is that, because it doesn't have to be bad anymore, you know? I don't, I think that's correct. the structural problems that kept you from being good in the old era for Kentucky,

one of the big one was we didn't produce any talent here relative to the other SEC schools. If you've listened to this show, I said that for 15 straight years. I think that issue matters less today than it has ever mattered because you get guys from the portal. And the guys from the portal don't care where they grew up, right? So you are exactly right. It matters less now than it's ever mattered. So then it comes about money. Well, okay, we don't have the money to pay what Georgia, Alabama, and Texas are playing.

But we do have probably more money than Vanderbilt, Missouri, Indiana, et cetera. And so there's no excuse to not be competitive, if not title good. And I would use this example, and I appreciate the call. In baseball, you can't beat the Dodgers at the top. the Dodgers game. They have too much money. So, like, if you're the Cincinnati Reds, you're never going to be able to out-star the Dodgers. So if you lose to the Dodgers, you lose to the Dodgers. What are you going to do? But you can be better than the pirates and the teams that are spending the same amount of money as you or less. That's how the Tampa Bay raise. Billy's team's

been so good over the years, right? That's right. You guys have been good. You don't try to out Yankees the Yankees. You just do your thing, and sometimes it'll work, and sometimes it won't. But you're always making the smart decisions. What's frustrating is when you don't have the resources and you make dumb decisions, right? And I think that's kind of where we've been the last couple years. We both don't have the Georgia talent, but we're also making bad decisions. Vandy's playing Alabama right now.

If they lose, because Alabama has more talent, then so be it. But they can't lose because they beat themselves. And I don't think they will, but I think we do. And that's my biggest problem. One more. Who's next? Kyle. Kyle, go ahead, Kyle.

What's up, Matt? As someone who's known you for 15 years now, my question to you is, are we bringing back Section 206? for the Tennessee Techman. You know, that's a great question, because that would be a full circle moment, right? For people who, you know, me and Drew, were you up there during that? That was 2012.

I think I was still in college, but I would be there. If you don't remember, you weren't there. There weren't many of us. For people who don't remember when Vandy was playing Kentucky with Joker Phillips, Jokers, when we lost 40 to nothing, and the stadium was basically empty. Drew and I were sitting in the press box

We saw one kid sitting up in, I guess it was 206, and he was sitting by himself in an empty stand, but just sitting there, and we were like, that's so cool. And we were like, let's go sit with it. And Drew and I, back then we live blog the games. We walked over, we went up there, sat with him, it was just the three of us, and then we just sort of, I think I tweeted out, hey, if you love UK and you're still here, come sit with us and all of a sudden, Billy, that section grew more and more and more. Have you ever seen these pictures, Billy, from them?

The pictures. The pictures are cool. And by the end, there might have been more people in 206 than there were in the rest of the stadium. That was one of my proud KSR moments because we weren't nearly as known back then. We might have to do that again. My last thing. We might have to do that again against Tennessee Tech. But go ahead. My last thing for you.

to show where apathy gets you, because we all know it's setting in. Look just down I-64 West at what apathy is done. They're playing their 4-0 playing against a top 25 team at home, and there's nobody there. It's their best team in years. Because of the apathy that they got from Scotts-Tots and just the way they've handled. And yes, it's the rise of basketball program coming back there after many years being down there too. apathy gets you exactly where they're at a home game, top 25 team,

and there's nobody there. I've been surprised that they have not had, and I appreciate the call more attendance. I've said this. There was a time that going to Louisville home football games was really, really fun, even though I hated them. And they still have not gotten, he's right, they still haven't gotten their attendance back,

and they're good. And they're playing a top 25 team in the afternoon, and, you know, I mean, there's people there, but it's not what you would think, for a team that could go to the playoff because little could depending on how things go today we'll see um i do want to read one thing before we get out of here nick coffee wrote me he is in uh he is in going to rimfro valley billy to see aaron tippin and sammy kershell that's my kind of concert by the way and he says i stopped at vendors barn in lincoln county for a bathroom break they've got you blaring

down the main aisle it's the most kentucky thing i've ever ever done experience. So to those of you at Vendors Barn in Lincoln County, you're hearing my voice right now while you're talking to the while you're seeing the vendors in Lincoln County, shout out to you all at Vendors Barn, my people. All right. Thank you folks very much. Tough loss, but we kind of knew this was coming. Next week, I'm sure we'll talk about more than this. Let's go over some scheduling real quick. Basketball Media Day is Monday. So we will be at Basketball Media Day doing the show Monday. I don't know if we'll get to have anybody on or not, but we'll be there at least. And the media day starts at noon, so you'll get a lot about the basketball team. We are at KSpar, Tuesday,

Wednesday, and Thursday of next week. If you want to come by and see us, and then Friday, I think we're at Wild Eggs. Is that right? That's right. Wild eggs. Wild eggs in Lexington. So many chances for you to come out and say hi, and then Big Blue Madness is next Saturday. And I'm kind of pumped for it. I'm not going to lie. For you didn't hear, Mark Pope said, They're going to wear the denim uniforms at least once and maybe multiple times this season. So the denim, we'll see what's in them. Appreciate you all very much for listening. Enjoy your evening.

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