KSR - KSR Postgame UK FB vs Ole Miss 9/06/25

Episode Date: September 7, 2025

Matt and Billy recap the Cats' 30-23 loss vs Ole Miss.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:02:05 This was just playoffs. This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome, everyone. It is the local toy dealers, KSR post game show. The Cats lose at home for the eighth straight year in the SEC home opener to Ole Miss 30 to 23. You can give us a shout when we open up the phones here in just a little bit. 8-5-9-2-80-22-87.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Kentucky is now 2-1-1 in their last 13 SEC home games, and it was a game that kind of played out exactly the way I thought it would, which was Kentucky, well, except for the fact that Kentucky got out early after a couple of Ty Bryan interceptions. It kind of played out the way I thought it would in the sense of Kentucky was in the game throughout, was competitive throughout, but I never really felt like they were going to win the game or even were the better team. I give the team credit for being competitive against in a game where I think they were outplayed, but they were outplayed, and it was frustrating. And I said, in a social media post after the game, basically, and I think this is the best way to describe it,
Starting point is 00:03:24 in a lot of ways this game summarizes a great deal of the Mark Stoops era. And what I mean by that is at a program that's often not been competitive, Mark Stoops has created most years here a team that is competitive and can play these SEC schools and it be a competitive game. But with the exception of a couple years, a similar pattern emerges, which is that they have a very good, SEC defense. I'm not going to say elite, although they may have had an elite one a couple of years, but they don't this year and they don't in general. But it is good. I mean, they have a defense that can play with most teams in the SEC. And even though they gave up 30 points, I think, against an old miss offense that ran as many plays as they did yesterday. I mean, I think you have to, or excuse me, today, you have to look at how many plays they ran before you look at
Starting point is 00:04:19 the total points. The defense was, gave you a chance to win the game. That's been very similar to most Mark Stoops teams. The offense was inconsistent as most Mark Stoops' offensive been, ran the ball I thought exceptionally well, as most Mark Stoops' offenses have, and the passing game was anemic at times. A couple of good plays, but in general, disappointing, as most Mark Stoops passing attacks have been, outside of, you know, a maybe Will Levis year.
Starting point is 00:04:57 The, and then finally, so you end up with, as with most Stoops teams, a good defense, a good running game, a not so good passing game, and then mistakes that take whatever chance you had to win the game and throw them away. Old Miss was better than Kentucky. They outplayed us. We, you could make an argument, we were only in the game, really, because we got two interceptions that allowed us to start inside old miss is 30 yard line but the reality is we got two interceptions that allowed us to start inside old miss 30 yard you have a chance at that point and once
Starting point is 00:05:34 again inconsistency play calling baffling play calling and most frustratingly just absolutely poor management cost you a chance to win the game i'm not going to be breaking ground here talking about the end of the first half is the key, but the end of the first half was the key. It just was. I mean, you are in a game where it is 14 to 10, I believe. Is that the score at that point, Billy? Yeah, I think it's 14 to 10. And if you kick a field goal right there, you can make it 14 to 13. But more importantly, you can kind of get down off the mat after a second quarter where you were kind of run over and go into halftime and score and you get the ball back. I would like to know in most games in the Mark Stoops era,
Starting point is 00:06:24 I feel like we never, we always have first ball because if they win, they give it to us and if we win, we pick to take it, which is a terrible decision. But this time we actually had the ball to start the second half. And just horrific end of game management. Let's start with the fact that you have no timeouts
Starting point is 00:06:45 because of how horrific the management was up until that point. You called a timeout on fourth and what, two, fourth and three at your own 40, which is not a time with the score tied at zero that you would think Stoops would go for it. He calls timeout. I think everyone in the stadium thinks, well, then he's going to go for it.
Starting point is 00:07:07 And then he comes out and punts. Who calls time out to punt? So there's one. Wasted. Then not once. But twice, during the regular play of the first half, they're not organized. Somebody's in the wrong place. In one case, the play comes in way late, and they have to call time out.
Starting point is 00:07:28 So you have wasted three timeouts. So then when you get the ball with a minute left, let's be clear, first of all, Billy, they were trying to run out the clock. They just got lucky in McGowan broke one. They weren't trying to score right there. But they broke one, had a chance. but now you have no timeouts because of your mistakes. Still yet because of two good runs.
Starting point is 00:07:49 You are in field goal range. It is third down. You have a chance to go from what would be a long field goal to a very makeable field goal because it looks like our kicker's pretty good. I understand they're going to throw. That's a good decision because if you don't get the first down, you know, if it's incomplete,
Starting point is 00:08:08 the clock stops, you'll have a chance to get a kick. instead the play I don't know if the play's late if guys are in the wrong place everyone is looking around and they let the play clock run out which gets you a penalty and takes you out of field goal range that's just malpractice that's not just bad that's malpractice because that's the only thing you cannot do you cannot take a sack and you cannot get a penalty and not only did we get a or excuse me not you can't get a delay of game We get a delay of game. And then just for good measure, on the next play, get the other thing you can't do, which is a holding.
Starting point is 00:08:46 We get them both. Nice. A one-two punch of the two things you can't do in that situation, we do them both. Well done. It's so bad, the announcers are openly mocking us, and I can't blame them. Sean McDonough, who's not exactly known as a jokester, says Kentucky will get the ball in the second half, or maybe they'll defer. I mean, that is basically a joke to say, these folks don't know what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Greg McElroy, who I think really likes Mark Stubbs, was in the nicest way possible saying, what in the world is going on with these guys? It was a disaster. And when it was over, Stoop said it was unacceptable. I appreciate that, but I've heard him say that for 10 years, which goes back to my, this game is a symbol of a lot of Stoop's error. How many games have I set here? waiting for this post-game show to start,
Starting point is 00:09:42 listen to Tom interview Mark Stoops and heard him say something was unacceptable and they were going to have to fix it and then it happens again and again and again. It's just how it is at this point. Like this is what it is. And I think it's frustrating to people. And the problem is after, what is this?
Starting point is 00:10:02 Is this year 11 for Stubes? 13. 13, sorry. after 13 years fans you know i think fans can understand if we don't have the talent of the other team i think old miss has a little bit better talent than us but not a lot this year last year i think they had a lot more than we won but i don't think they have a significant significant advantage but and i think glen kiffin is one of the great for all of his nonsense he's one of the really smart play callers, just a very intelligent coach.
Starting point is 00:10:40 But what fans can't sit and watch after 13 years is the same mistakes done in the same ways, the same sloppiness, and the same, you know, it's inexcusable. And I think you saw that today. Credit to the fans, we had a, wasn't full, but that was a pretty good crowd out there that especially early tried to get into it. But it wasn't surprising to me that at the end, the stands were empty. And I had people who were there say to me, it was. was kind of a restless negative like people are kind of done with the staff feeling.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Now, I think it's a little early to be done, but I totally understand the feeling. If I'm honest, I never thought we were going to win that game. And even when we were up 10 and nothing, as soon as they hit that fourth and one, I mean, I knew what was going to happen. I mean, you knew what was going to happen. It went a slightly different way than it goes the other times, but we know what we've seen it. We know what this is. So you're left going, you know, online sometimes when you go online, you would think Mark Stoops is the worst coach in America by what people say.
Starting point is 00:11:51 I don't believe that. I do think he has done a really good job to make it to where a program that has, for most of its history, not been competitive in these games, is competitive in these games. but in some ways it makes it even more frustrating to me that he and the staff have done the hard part I always thought the hard part of winning here was getting the players here to be good enough to compete
Starting point is 00:12:20 and having the sort of depth and strength not at the skilled positions but in the interior of the line etc like the positions that other teams were always so much better than us the big uglies, as some people have called them over the years. I just thought Kentucky will never get those guys. And Mark's done the hard part. He's gotten those guys over the years. I'm not saying this group right here is awesome,
Starting point is 00:12:45 but they're pretty good. I thought the defensive line's really good, and the offensive line is better. But what is frustrating is, the one thing that is controllable, the one thing that you can control is discipline, management of the game,
Starting point is 00:13:02 that type of thing. and they're bad at it, and they've always been bad at it. And it's the one thing that even if you don't have talent, you should be able to do. For instance, at the very end of the game, game's over, it's not a big deal. They kick a field goal. It bothered the people who had bet on the game. But it's interesting, in the moment, Billy, as soon as we got down into scoring, into field goal range, I am not a football savant at all.
Starting point is 00:13:30 I don't understand, like, in-depth schemes or analysis, but I know math, and I've learned enough about football to know when you should do things. And the moment we got in the field-go range, Billy, I was saying, you know, what they ought to do right here is kick a field-go. They should kick a field go right here. Analytics and just people in general, you kick a field go right here. Greg McElroy is on the game. What's he said? Well, you can't hear it, Billy, because you're doing the radio. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:55 But he's sitting there, and Greg McElroy is going, now they ought to kick a field go right here. And Sean McDonough is saying, now they ought to. ought to kick a field go right here. But if Lane Kiffin doesn't call time out, we don't kick a field goal. We were about to run a play. And then Lane Kiffin, who probably was thinking, well, of course, I're going to kick a field go here. He's not ready, has to call time out.
Starting point is 00:14:16 You see the moment when someone in the booth says to Mark kick a field go and he goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's do that. But that says to me that they weren't ready to do that in the common course of it. And that is what is frustrating to me. There are basic decisions that are literally math and your, what's the word I would say, your philosophy. So if you play blackjack, everybody knows that on 16, you can either go or stay against a 10. And some people's philosophy is to go and some people's philosophy is to stay. But what everybody who knows blackjack says is whichever one you do, make sure you do it all every time.
Starting point is 00:14:57 I don't think we have philosophies. Sometimes I don't know if we even know the math. And then when we do know the math, sometimes I don't think we have philosophies. Let's take the decision to not kick the field goals in the fourth quarter. In both cases, down seven, they decide to go for it on fourth down. I think it's the right decision. The math says it is the right decision. The time and game of the time and game scenario says it's the right.
Starting point is 00:15:27 decision. Mark does what is the right decision. And then after the game, he's asked about it, and he says, well, I wish I hadn't done that. The math says to go for it, but I should have gone with my gut. Now, Billy, what is your philosophy? Is your philosophy to go with your gut? Or is your philosophy to go with the math? Or is your philosophy that it's just going to change every game? And it's clear that our philosophy is we don't have a philosophy. I don't think we really have an offensive philosophy, and we really have it since Liam Cohen was here. And I don't really think we have a game management philosophy.
Starting point is 00:16:11 And what is so frustrating to me about Mark's, the Stoops era, especially the last few years, he has through his talent, his ability to recruit, identify talent, hiring of coaches, he has as good as anybody in my lifetime done the hard part at Kentucky. He's gotten the players. He's gotten the buy-in of the fans for most of the time. He has done the part of this job that I didn't really know if anybody can do. And he's screwing up the easy part. The part that people like me who've not even played football
Starting point is 00:16:50 and the part that people like Greg McElroy who are really good minds of football know even better than someone like me would, They always seem to get that wrong. And it's beyond frustrating. And I can see, think about at the end of the first half, everyone in that stadium knew, you can not let the play clock go. Everyone, that's why when they panned the crowd on TV, everyone's heads were down. That was everyone knew.
Starting point is 00:17:20 That was the one thing you couldn't do except the 11 guys on the field and apparently our coaches. That is what fans. are just kind of tired of. And I think they have a legitimate reason to be. 859-280-2287. We will open up the phones. Text machine is 772-774-5-254. Cats lose by 7.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Feels like a repeat of a lot of these shows we've done, but we will take your calls. It did sound like at the end of the game, Cutter Bowley. Could be starting next week. We'll talk about that and a lot more. It is the local Toyota dealers, KSR post-game show. It is the local Tucky Toyo Dealers, KSR Postgame Show.
Starting point is 00:18:03 I was trying to think I do this after losses that are important or wins that are important. Okay, what do I say? Because I want to try to make that monologue correct. So it seems like most of you agree with me. There are some people who are saying that they think stoops went against his philosophy to do the analytics. But here's the thing. If you have a philosophy, whatever it is, you stick to it no matter what. even when it's not popular.
Starting point is 00:18:30 I mean, just doing what the masses want you to do all the time, anybody can do that. You could just take a popular vote before every play. The question is, how do you create a football culture? How do you create a program, et cetera? And they do a decent job about that in some ways. But when it comes to game management, I never know what they're going to do in a given moment.
Starting point is 00:18:50 And not in the good way. Right, not in the good way. Billy made the point during the break about the play. Billy, you said on third and nine, when Cutter comes in, we run quarterback draw. Oh, my. What was that? What is that? It's the worst call of the year.
Starting point is 00:19:05 What is that? I mean, I don't even understand how you think that's going to work, especially with a dude who's just come in, you know, I don't get it. But again, I don't know. I still never really know what Bush Hamden is trying to do. Today was a little more coherent with the running game. But, you know, it is what it is. Now, Zach Kausata, it looks like, might not be the quarterback anymore. I mean, I've never heard Mark Stoop sort of say.
Starting point is 00:19:37 I mean, he literally said in the post game, I want to see Cutter. I don't know how you could have heard it and not think Cutter Bowley start next week, even if Zach Kowzada is healthy. And they really gave no update as to how he's doing. So I don't know. It may be, this may be Cutter Bowling, as a caller said last week, If you're going to bring him, Eastern Michigan may be a good time. Last time I saw, they were losing a long island.
Starting point is 00:19:58 So, and by the way, Toledo is crushing your Western Kentucky Hill. I had to turn it off. It was getting bad. Yeah. All right. Let's get started. Who's up for you? Badger.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Badger. Badger. Hey, guys. What I want to say, Matt, you're right. I've never been more in sync with you. You can't have it where your players are doing everything in spite of the coaching. And that's what we've seen so many times over 10 years in the biggest moments that the coaches crumble and our guys put out the best effort they can put out. And I don't
Starting point is 00:20:37 understand that game management, everything, you know, at the end of the first half, how can you expect a team to go tempo and they never practice it? What you said about the philosophy? That's never in his thought process. And they're not going to do it. And you can tell they don't practice it. because they're bad at it. And, you know, they made the comment that their headsets didn't work. Okay, that's unfortunate. But you know what? That happens.
Starting point is 00:21:02 And teams practice, what if our headsets go down? And it looks like we had never done it. Exactly. Yes. I love you guys. Keep doing what you're doing. Shout out. Appreciate those things.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Appreciate the call. Yeah, I mean, the headset thing is a perfect example. He said at the end of the half, and he acknowledged that they should have signs. But it is clear. Look, Zach Kowzada, he may not be good. I've heard a lot of questions about his work ethic. I think that's part of the reason Stoops is so ready to go to the next guy. But I'll say this.
Starting point is 00:21:33 I mean, he's not. I'm sure he knows the plate. I had some sympathy for him. It was clear. He had no idea what they wanted him to do. And that is, that's on the staff. Now, he also made some bad throws. You know, I'm not saying, I'm not like.
Starting point is 00:21:53 totally taken up for him. But I'm saying like it's not, when dudes are not lined up in the right place, I don't think that's his fault. And when he looked at the screen, Billy and had said, what, what was, I'm not going to say the language, but you know, he said some curse words. Yes. What the blank are we doing? Well, I had sympathy for him. He's right. What were we doing? Yeah. And second year of Bush Hamden, 13th year of Stoop's, seventh year quarterback. Why does it look like Kentucky offense is playing a different sport in
Starting point is 00:22:25 a bad way at times? You're exactly right. Who's next? Joe. Joe, I did get a blizzard. I'm treating myself after having Oh, what kind. Watching that game. Well, it's M&M. I hope it doesn't all melt before the end of the show. But go ahead. Joe. Joe. Oh, hey guys. Sorry. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:22:45 I'm headed back home to Louisville now. I woke up today and just Impulse bought a ticket and I just felt like the same same song and dance as a lot of other home games. You know, it was a little bit higher scoring since it was Old Met. But with, I just wanted to talk about like it feels like with the new basketball hire Mark Pope, I know it just feels like we will definitely have a high IQ with basketball, high IQ staff. You're exactly right.
Starting point is 00:23:19 And it's just not the case with stoop's. And then my other point real quick. Let me, I'll let you make a second point. On that point, one of the things I like about Mark Pope is I know they're not going to like do anything stupid. I'm not like last year's team. They weren't talented enough to win the title. But what I liked about them is I thought Pope had all, we were in the best position. we could to win games. We ended up not having the athleticism to guard a lot of teams in the
Starting point is 00:23:54 SEC, but we did the best. I think we could. When John Robic was an assistant under Cal, I always felt like, for the most part, we had a game plan to win games. I think that changed when he left. What's frustrating to me about this is the controllables often seem like they're not taken care of. Go ahead. Yeah. My one other note was going to be about Calzada, which might not matter if he had. hurts but it feels like if he just stays in the pocket and makes a decision like things aren't always a complete disaster but if he scrambles then just forget it so i so people who know more about the position than i do maybe you do sir i'm not sure i've never been a quarterback
Starting point is 00:24:36 i'm not claim to be an expert but i will tell you i watch a lot of football like everybody else i can't think of a quarterback i've ever seen that runs backwards more than him in turn like yeah i feel like i feel like i feel like i feel like i'm going to play a football like i feel like he heads backwards a lot. The only other people I can think of that do that are like Lamar and Michael Vick, but that's a different level of athleticism. But it feels like to me he's running backwards and throwing while running backwards a lot. Do you agree with that?
Starting point is 00:25:06 Yeah, that's what I felt like. Yeah, I appreciate the call. You know, there are guys who are better throwing on the run, but he, a couple times I noticed he would throw the ball 17 to 20 yards behind the line of scrimmage. I can't imagine that's what he's supposed to do. It felt like the moment he could get out of the pocket he did, and I'm not sure he has the athleticism to do that. Again, it may not matter because he may not be playing again.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Who's next? Or fourth down, don't throw it out of bounds. Maybe keep it in. Didn't understand that one either. No. Yeah. Dustin is next. Dustin, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Hey, Matt, it's the same exact thing. It's a Mark Stoops offense. we go back to when Cal was struggling 18, 19, 20, COVID year, all that same. We're seeing the same exact thing. It's regression. Love you guys. Love the show. It is time to shake his hand.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Move on. That's all I got. Have a great day. Appreciate the call. I mean, I can't say that yet just because it's game too. But, you know, it is, we talked on the first. pre-game show. Okay, what would be, let's say we lost, what would be success? And I thought there's only one way that this game could be a real disaster, and that was if we got blown out. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:29 blown out would be the worst. But a game in which you get up 10 to nothing early, get everybody's hopes up, get everybody excited, and then proceed to make middle error after middle error and have an offense that can't move the ball for a lot of the time. Billy, we lost by one score, but it doesn't feel like it. You know? Yeah. And that is not as bad as getting blown out, but it's like it's the confirmation of everything that frustrates people about this staff.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Got us our hopes up, up 10 to nothing, have chances do stupid things. But you already said it. After they converted that fourth and one in the second. quarter, Kentucky was up 10 to zero. I knew the game was over, Matt. Like, I'd seen this game before. But I will say it was at 1410. Last year they would give it up. They didn't give, I mean, they went down and had a chance to kick a field goal before halftime, make it 14, 13, and then all this that we talked about happened, which is, again, the frustration. What's next? The mayor of Shively.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Mayor of Shively. How are you? I'm good. I'm going to, first I'll start out with saying the defense, I thought the defense play well for the most part. Oh, I do, too. Even though we gave up 30, I actually do agree with. But now it's time to get on Mark Stoops. We've lost that game or we'd lose this sense of playing offense. After that second interception, you take no shots towards the end zone and you settle for
Starting point is 00:28:02 three. Hey, we're up 10-0, right? And then you think about all the times under Mark Stoops where he would rather win a game two to zero than win a game 45 to 4. Right? So then you go, and then you get to the end of the second quarter like you just talked about, where it's a minute left, you got the ball, it's time to move the ball. We run the ball.
Starting point is 00:28:27 The dude runs three yards again, once again, that's second and seven or third and nine, like it was the whole game, and then hand it off again, but the Duke busses a long run, right? We're out of timeouts. They've got nothing we can do. we can do, then throw the ball, and then don't kick that field goal, et cetera, and then you go to the hat time. But everybody in the stands, I was at the game. I'm on the way home back to Louisville now.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Everybody around me was like, this coward will not try to score before half and then get to the ball again. Well, they weren't trying to score right there. They were trying to run the clock out. It's just he broke. Well, I'm with you 100%. And then you get to the fourth quarter. My best friend, it's his birthday.
Starting point is 00:29:11 We were at the game. we're sitting there hanging out and he was like dude you know what with nine minutes left let's just go and kick at field go then you're down four right and then whatever it happens you can play defense you get the ball back we stopped them they went three and out get the ball again we get right back down there and we go for it again on fourth and nine or whatever it was instead of kicking again then you're down one yeah just on that point i'm okay with both of those because i think considering how old miss it scored five the last six positions possessions. Considering that, I think in both cases, you probably wouldn't have thought three was going to be
Starting point is 00:29:49 enough. I was okay with him going for both of those. And I would defend both of those decisions. I think what would have been better, though, is if you kick that field goal to start right before halftime, then you would have kicked in those scenarios. But because they didn't get the three right before halftime, in my opinion, going for it was the right decision. I don't know, man. This is just an ongoing trail of Mark Stoves me. He's just so afraid to play offense. And I don't want to hear, I mean, Ole Miss, every time they got the ball.
Starting point is 00:30:18 They're ready to hike the ball. They're ready to go. Well, let's use the difference. And I appreciate the call. Be safe driving back. Let's use the difference. It's 10-0. We're up.
Starting point is 00:30:28 First year quarterback on the road. His first start on the road, he's thrown two interceptions back to back. It's 10 to nothing. All right. If we stop them, right there, then who knows? They might be in trouble. It's 10-0.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Fourth and one, all right? Fourth and one up 10-0. Billy, what are we doing, fourth-and-one up 10-0? We're kicking. Punting. We're punting. He's going for it, okay? Difference in philosophy.
Starting point is 00:30:59 But what are the chances, fourth and one, on his end of the field, Billy, do you think we're going to throw that pass lane through? None. None. We're none. Lane Kiffin, down to nothing, a quarterback that's just thrown two interceptions on the road, says to his players, I'm calling this play. A, that shows belief in your team.
Starting point is 00:31:27 But B, that's gutsy, and that's going for a win. And they have a lot more to lose than we do. They're the favorite. If we stop them, we have a chance to score again. Make it a three-score game, and he is not scared. and we are scared. Who's next? Mike is next.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Mike, go ahead, Mike. Hey, Matt. I was wondering on October 25th when they play Purdue, who do you think a starting lineup for the basketball game will be? I appreciate the call. I don't do that. When we're on the football show, we do talk football. 859-280-2287.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Who's next? Drew. Drew, go ahead, Drew. Hey, Matt, how are you doing? Good. How are you? I wish I could say I'm doing better, but I think just going for, I think Cutter Bowley has to be our guy going to this Eastern Michigan game. Even if Calzada's healthy, I just think I got more dopamine from the five minutes that Cutter Bowley was in.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Then the game and a half I got from Calzano. Were you at the game? Were you at the game? I was last week, not this week. Okay, so you may have heard this too. McElroy, again, who I have a lot of respect for, he said Cutter Bowley looks more comfortable right now than Zach. Calzada's looked in the first two games. That kind of told me all I need to know.
Starting point is 00:32:47 That's a dude who knows quarterback play, and that was his way of saying, this is the dude that should be playing. Yeah. Zach Calzone's had six years to prove himself. I say we just cut her losses with the money. I mean, Barnes Chief's gone from the draft.
Starting point is 00:33:02 I don't even think the arena football league wants this bum. Let's just go cut her bowl the rest of the year. Well, I appreciate the call. I, you know, last year, Brock Van de Griff's struggle. Bush Hamden said, I thought, understandably, he was diplomatic, but he essentially was saying, I didn't pick this guy. Like, he was here when I got here.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Fair enough. But you pick this one. Right. So I'm not, I actually don't think we didn't play well. I think Zach Galzada was okay. I don't think he was great or even necessarily good. But I thought he was okay. I think you could have won with him in this game.
Starting point is 00:33:40 if the other stuff had to happen. But I do think there's a good argument at this point. Let's give it to Cudder and see what he does. What's next? Cat Head. Cat Head. Go ahead. Hey, guys.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Yeah, just like you asked the last caller, I was at the game, Matt. You know, it was really disappointing. And like you said, like Mark Stoops is, he's probably lost up this program. You know, and I would just, like to say is, you know, I used to not get on these, the kids. I used to call them kids that was in college, right? But now they're making hundreds of thousands. Yeah, they're making money. They're millions of dollars. So, so you can, you know, you can kind of get on to them a little bit. But, you know, Al-Zada, after six years, this is his seventh year. If he's, if he's not
Starting point is 00:34:37 done anything by now, he's not going to. So, that's why we're at the bottom of the SEC power rankings. I really believe that. And I do love Mark Stoops for what he's done, but he is the worst I'm management coach that I've ever seen. Or at least in the conversation. And I hate to say that because I do like him. Yes.
Starting point is 00:35:04 I appreciate the call. And I don't, I think he's really good at, at picking players. I think he's good. I think he's good at scheming up defenses. I think he's really good at hiring coaches for the most part. Everybody has some duds, but I think he's done a pretty good job with that. I think he's good at installing toughness in his team. But I mean, I just don't know how his teams for 13 years have made bad time management decisions. And that's not going to change. I don't think, unfortunately. 859-28027. We're going to take a break. We're going to break. Oklahoma is going to go up 14-0-0 on Michigan at halftime. Florida loses at home to
Starting point is 00:35:47 South Florida. Billy Napier, you know, his next four games are all against teams ranked in the top 15. Oh, eke. And then he loses to South Florida. We'll take a break. Be right back. It's the local toy dealers, KSR post-game show. Welcome back. It is local toy dealers, KSR post-game show. Some folks writing in one person writes, Matt, can we relieve Bush Hamden to play calling and ask Eddie Grant to play call. Probably a little late to do that. I think it's probably a different offense. Maybe we didn't realize what we had with Eddie Grant. Although Liam was really good. I mean, you know, I guess you would say, you know, Eddie Grant, like if you were to say, all right, how is Mark done with offensive coordinators? I think Neil Brown, his first tire was a really
Starting point is 00:36:32 good hire. I mean, Neil didn't have the players, but I think Neil's a good offensive coordinator. So I'd say one and no. Eddie had enough good. We won a lot with Eddie. So I'm going to still say good, two and oh. Liam, good, three and O. Scangarell, three and one. And this is looking like it's going to be a three and two. Yeah, that's what I definitely say.
Starting point is 00:36:59 But I will say with all those guys, part of it is you don't know what Mark lets them do. Right. Although I feel like Mark's letting Bush him do whatever it is, Bush is doing. and I don't totally understand what it is. One person writes, Matt, we speak about the rudeness of the old Miss fans singing during my old Kentucky home. I didn't hear that, but I have to tell you,
Starting point is 00:37:24 it actually doesn't bother me quite as much because while my old Kentucky home means a lot to us, it's not their state song. So, you know, Tennessee, Rocky Tops, their state song. You're going to be quiet during Rocky Tos? If you had a chance, would you sing a song to drown out Rocky Top Billy? Yes. Yes, I would.
Starting point is 00:37:47 You would. So just because it's a slow song, yeah, it's our song. And I think it's beautiful. And I don't like people singing it. But do I think it's especially rude? No, because it doesn't mean anything to them. Right? So, I mean, we go.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Let me, I'd ask whoever wrote this, what's Wyoming State song? If we were at Wyoming, would you chant Go Big Blue during their state song? Probably would. Because you don't know what it is. So for them, it's not the same thing. One person writes, Matt, the only thing worse than the play calling and the game management is the music and the sound system at UK. Yeah. I heard somebody, had a few people write me and say it was a little better but still terrible.
Starting point is 00:38:36 And the sound system, it's awful. I mean, it is. That's a whole other conversation we could have, but I think what we really need to do is put another 10 million into luxury suites and still not have Wi-Fi in the sound system for the average thing. That's what we need to do.
Starting point is 00:38:51 What UK needs to do is make sure that the luxury suites are better. Because I do feel, as somebody, I had a friend tell me, I feel like every three years I see the same headline. Kentucky is adding to luxury suites and then fixing Wi-Fi. And somehow the luxury suites keep getting back,
Starting point is 00:39:08 better and the Wi-Fi continues to not exist. So, you know, it is what it is. That sound system will get replaced. We will have four more upgrades of the luxury suites before we get to the sound system. Who's next? Kyle is next. Kyle, go ahead, Kyle. Reds won, which makes me matter that they lost last night.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Base is loaded. Nobody out, Billy, the bottom of the night, they don't get running. Anyway, go ahead. Yeah, I thought it was bad play calling when it was. I think it was a fourth and eight, and then he should have went ahead and kicked a field goal. That's bad play, man. What the analytics say you go for it right there.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Analytics say you go for it. And let me explain why real quick. You might still disagree, but there's nine minutes to go, 10 minutes to go. If you kick it, you're down four, but you're still going to have to score a touchdown. Meanwhile, the team that you're playing has scored five of the last six possessions.
Starting point is 00:40:06 They're getting the ball. By the way, we stopped them. so we got the ball back what we wanted to do actually worked we just didn't score the next time but i actually think that was mathematically the right decision the old school way of football is to kick right there i think the mass suggests that doesn't really help you but go ahead yeah so yeah the his players are so undisciplined i mean it was the same thing when i was in texas like uh band brown running his mouth we got multiple fortunate
Starting point is 00:40:40 like conduct penalties yeah we didn't have a lot of that though I mean we didn't have a lot of that tonight I don't
Starting point is 00:40:46 did we have any did we have anything like that happened tonight I can't remember Billy was there one I mean we did have we had that bad not today
Starting point is 00:40:54 I don't think I felt like the like they should have called that pass interference when Cadus got hit I didn't feel like there was any sort of discipline I may be
Starting point is 00:41:05 mistake forgetting something but I don't think that was that was a huge issue last year. I'm not sure that was what happened tonight. Yeah, the Texas fans when I was in Texas, they said that a boy was better than Dandergraft.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Yeah. Well, that was last year. I appreciate the call. 859-280 2287. Who's next? Dan is next. Dan. Go ahead, Dan. Hey, Matt. Dan from Rocky Man. Hey, Dan. How you doing? You know, doing good, Matt. Doing really good. We just got to get a quarterback, man.
Starting point is 00:41:43 We got to get a quarterback to beat these top teams in the SEC. You've got to have a mediocre quarterback or better. And I don't think we have that yet. So I think next week they're going to change the quarterbacks. I mean, a good quarterback makes a bad coordinator look good. No, you're right. I mean, like, you're exactly right. A really good quarterback could make the difference.
Starting point is 00:42:09 But I think a lot of the problems we're talking about, though. I'm not sure how much the quarterback would change. Like, think about it like this, Dan. How many throws did Calzada miss? Okay. I think he missed a couple. But so did Cutter. Cutter missed.
Starting point is 00:42:30 I mean, again, I feel like I'm his publicist, but McElroy pointed out that Kendrick Law was wide. open on that fourth down. You know, I agree with you. If we had a great quarterback, we're talking about a different thing. But I don't think, I don't think of a lot of plays where I was like, well, if Cal's out of throwing that ball better, it would have worked. I think a lot of this, the problems aren't even really that.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Yeah, I mean, we got that one pass down the field, and that was basically it as far as getting it down the hill. To play in the SEC, you've got to run the ball, and you've got to get the ball down the field. and we didn't do that. Yeah, and you know, Bush Hamden might say, and I appreciate the call, well, I don't call those plays because he can't execute him. And maybe he hasn't said that to me, but maybe that's what it is. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:16 But, you know, last year felt like sometimes Van der Gryph would have a throw, and he just couldn't make it. Certainly in the first half, it sounded like McDonough was suggesting that our receivers just were never open. Well, did you hear it? Well, again, I always say there was a moment where McDonough said that Bush Hamden had told him they had no number one receiver and basically weren't able to get good receivers in the portal because they didn't have a wide receiver coach.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Which I thought was a really interesting thing that it feels like no one has really, I sort of wrote that now when it happened. I was like, I haven't heard anybody say this. That was an interesting comment, sort of suggesting, well, we didn't have a wide receiver coach so we couldn't get any wide receivers. I mean, maybe, but that's first I've heard of that. Who's next? A lot of shots from McDunna seemed like.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Well, but I mean, assuming McDonough's telling the truth, that's just quoting the coach. Yeah, he also had another thing about coaching and squandered timeouts. He was right. I have no problems with Sean McDowdy. He didn't say anything. The truth hurts, I guess. Yeah. Ritter.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Ritter. Go ahead. Ritter. What's up? Hey, Lodd, all, two things real quick. I'm going to talk about constant. I know you went through the offensive coordinators earlier, so that's a good thing. But one of the constants is one of our offensive coordinators just had the Hizman trophy winner.
Starting point is 00:44:42 One of our offensive coordinator is an NFL coach. One of our defensive coordinators are stuck with us, and you could have mentioned, you could probably agree that our defense has been taught ever since then. I forgot about Shannon Dawson, by the way. You're exactly, I forgot about Shane Dawson. That's a no here, but he's doing good elsewhere. Yeah, so there's a constant of, I think, the constant is the head coach. And my second thing is, we lose for Kentucky, almost 40 now.
Starting point is 00:45:08 I've been used to losing it. It's how we lose under stoops. I think the biggest thing is it's losing, pulling the ball out from under us, we're doing the peanuts thing every single time. And we sit here and say, well, it's a quarterback. We need a Kentucky guy. We had a five-star quarterback last year, and now we've got this guy. It's a seventh-year starter.
Starting point is 00:45:27 If you were from the outside looking in, it seems like we're making excuses for this. And I just think that at what point is it, and is it like the Reds fans, you are, like we have some of the most dedicated fans for a team that doesn't have this success. So, like, we show up day in and day out. Totally agree. And the biggest thing is, and I think you would agree with this, is like, it's on these kids. Like, you know, we don't want to do this. We want to show up for these kids.
Starting point is 00:45:50 It ain't stutes or anything like that. But again, guess what? Like I think someone mentioned earlier, they're getting paid. So, like, JMI's got the big deal now, so they've got their money. so then I guess we're not to worry about them not getting paid. But at what point do we just stop showing up? Because, again, I think we all agree. It's a completely fair question.
Starting point is 00:46:10 I'm not there yet, but this fan base will be there at the end of the year if this doesn't go any better. I mean, I don't know that that's a conversation for week two, but it's a conversation that's coming if they don't do better. I agree. And I think week two of last year, when we came in off. many bowl games, but you saw how last year went and this year. And then it's like, and again, I think the biggest thing, what you see now is like the Stoops buyout, well, it's, we have to do it in 60 days.
Starting point is 00:46:38 So, oh, that's the thing. It's like sooner or later, like we can't be held hostage by this contract, but we want success. We show up and do everything else. And the reason, I mean, again, I go back to the constant. It's the Stoops thing. And he set the bar and that's maybe his fault, you know, that's a detriment to him, the program like this, but the way it's losing, like, I don't know how we can emphasize.
Starting point is 00:46:57 We're fed up. We're done with this. It's not going or just that's going. Well, I don't think we're there yet, but that's coming. I appreciate the call. The game, there will be a game later this year where I think fans will make that determination, but we'll talk about that if it ends up coming the case. The Shannon Dawson thing is actually a pretty big indictment because he was a disaster here.
Starting point is 00:47:19 And now, you know, he's the offensive coordinator at Miami and they look good. Well, you would have liked it if it would have worked. That was a terrible quote. But, you know, it might be the case. He's right, but that caller's right about what the constant is through this. I mean, through all these offensive coordinators. So, you know, there's a big picture conversation to have about the way, I'll tell you what I'm not going to do at any point this year. as long as people are not mean or personal, I'm not criticizing whatever this fan base's reaction is to this whole thing.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Because UK, in my opinion, completely screwed up the off-season, or excuse me, the off-season in terms of the way they disappeared, didn't promote anything. you know, so they're going to reap what they sow here. My hope is that we play good enough that none of that stuff's going to matter. That's my hope. But if it does, they're reaping what they sow. And we've been warning them for a long time. And when he talks about what the fans are going to do, the fans are going to make.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Listen, next week, I don't know what's going to happen, three straight home games, Eastern Michigan stinks. Then you play Texas, then you play Tennessee, you play Florida. Okay. Those games are going to have big crowds because it's Texas, Tennessee, and Florida. But then you play Vandy,
Starting point is 00:48:54 and then you play, well, wait a minute, Vandy is there. Excuse me. Then you play, what, Tennessee Tech at home? Is it Auburn before that or Tennessee? Yeah, both on their own. Bandy and Auburn on the Road.
Starting point is 00:49:06 You'll play Tennessee Tech at home. That's going to be your senior day. You know, that has, last year a Joker Vandy vibes to me if they're not careful. And I think that's, but I'm not going to criticize this fan base for, like, they showed up today and had energy. I'm not going to criticize this fan base for what they do the rest of the year
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Starting point is 00:49:53 Text machine 772-7-745-2541 person writes, Matt, you say it's too early to call it. What in the past tells you that it's not going to be a repeat? Nothing. I mean, if you were to ask me to predict how this year is going to go, I'm going to predict. I think I said before the season five and seven, and I thought we'd like sneak a victory against a team we probably shouldn't beat. I still kind of feel that way. I think we're going to win three and then beat Vandy is four.
Starting point is 00:50:26 And then I think they'll sneak one of them, whether it's Auburn, Louisville, Florida. One of those they're going to sneak and win. So I think they're going to win five. But I don't know that that's going to be a five that does anything for people, unfortunately. So, you know, five and seven, Billy would almost be like the worst record we could have. Because if it's like three and nine or four and eight, then like, you know what it is. And if it's six and six, you're fine, probably. But if you're five and seven and you upset a really good team, then what do you do, Billy?
Starting point is 00:51:14 I know what Mitch is going to do. Well, he's not going to do anything. But I don't know how you get this fan base excited. The biggest problem that Kentucky football has in the next three years is apathy, which in my lifetime has only happened once for Kentucky football. And that was the last year, Joker. That was apathy. Apathy is the worst thing that can happen to your program in any sport.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Apathy is what kills everything. Amazingly, we were headed towards apathy that last year with Cal. And then Reed Shepard came along and Rob Dillingham and Antonio Reeves and then all of a sudden like that team which I thought could be apathetic that people got excited about. But had Cal come back, that next year was going to be apathy. The biggest worry for me about this UK football program is we're heading towards apathy if something doesn't change. And that, like I said, that's the hardest thing to come back from.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Who's next? Bones is next. Bones. Go ahead, Bones. There goes. What's going on, Matt Jones? How you guys are doing tonight? Doing good.
Starting point is 00:52:31 All right, look, so this is my problem. Like, I'm a UK fan. I'm done, die, true and true. But let me ask you a couple quick questions. Number one. Were we supposed to win tonight? No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Number two, did we compete tonight? Yes. Okay, so my problem here is, I know there are things in the program like the Bush Hamden, we need to speed up the offense, the timeouts getting wasted. But at the same time, why can we not be more positive that we actually competed in a game? The line was nine and a half, and we still beat that. It could have done better. We could have had that within one, two, or three. We also could have lost, but we also got the ball twice within the 30 of Ole Miss.
Starting point is 00:53:19 And if you take those away and Old Miss doesn't throw those interceptions and punts them, we might have only scored 10 points. Now, you can if both ways. What you're saying in the abstract is not unreasonable. Hey, they actually covered the spread. Hey, we were competitive. Hey, we were with this. But ultimately what's frustrating to me is, if we played smart and made great decisions
Starting point is 00:53:48 and lost by seven, I would have the reaction you have. But we didn't. But we didn't. We didn't do those things. No, you're right. No, you're 100% right. But if we did those things, would it have been in a nine and a half spread? But we never do those things.
Starting point is 00:54:06 We don't. Right. So what makes me think that's going to change? What makes me think that's going to change? It's just like your thing that, you know, will never play for a SEC title. Well, we have. Okay. We stole one from Ole Miss last year.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Was it not that we were supposed to steal one? We were hoping we could steal one here. So we're hoping that we're going to steal one. That means we already know we probably can't win the game. We had opportunities to, but we've got to be realist about Kentucky football. Like, we're not at the bottom of the pilot. We're fertile. Yeah, we are this year.
Starting point is 00:54:41 No, we're – Actually, that's not true. I mean, and I – right now, we are probably in the power rankings ranked in last place in the SEC. I mean, this year, yes. Okay, right now. And probably – and last year we were ranked 15th out of 16. Okay, but we're not done with the season. So let's see where the season goes.
Starting point is 00:55:00 But if this fan base dies on us, then we're not going to go. It's not our fault. I appreciate the call. It's not our fault. Let me say that again. This is what I just said in the last segment. If this fan base dies this year, which I don't necessarily think it's going to happen. But if it does, it is not the fan base's fault.
Starting point is 00:55:19 I'm going to spend 10 games on these post game shows. Well, I'm going to miss a couple because I'm in South Africa. But when I'm on them, it is not the fan's fault. All right. The fans are not required to show up every week, have their parking. got get worse have the fan experience get worse have everything done to take every dollar out of their pocket and get little reward back and then watching a team that makes bad decisions lose time and again they are we that is not required of a fan base a fan base is required to love their players be you know
Starting point is 00:55:58 respectful to cheer all those things but a fan base is not required to be ignored for years by a program. And I'm not, I'm not even putting on this on Mark. I'm talking more UK athletics in general. A fan base is not required to sit and be basically told that unless you give a lot of money, your opinion doesn't matter. And then when they lose,
Starting point is 00:56:25 do dumb things told shut up and cheer. They're not required to do that. in 2025, you don't know anybody your money. They have to earn it. And just like these players deserve to be paid and they do, and I've advocated for it and will continue to, and I hope they make every dollar they want. It is not the requirement of the fans to sit and continually be told they are secondary
Starting point is 00:56:56 unless they have money and then they still have to cheer. So UK football is not putting on a product that right now is earning the customer of their fan bases dollar. They're not. And I'm not blaming the customer. To use a different example, Billy, when we had to pause the restaurant because things hadn't gone as well and we need to reset. it wasn't the people's fault for not coming, it was ours. Right? And we had to fix it.
Starting point is 00:57:36 You can't go outside and go, why aren't you doing this? So I'm not getting mad at the UK football fan. I'll be doing every, I mean, I'll be watching every game and cheering and talking every day. But if somebody else decides, you know what, it's a beautiful day. And I'm not going to go watch us do something stupid Saturday. I'm going to go with my kids to the park and illegally park on Matt Street. You can do that. And they will.
Starting point is 00:58:05 They will. We'll do five more and go to bed. Who's next? Emerson is next. Emerson. Go ahead, Emerson. Hi, Emerson. See, like, one of those last calls, I think that probably, if it was called,
Starting point is 00:58:32 it could probably, like, change the time for this game. Could have. That was a big call. You're talking about the Josh Caddus one. The guy clearly hit Katas before the pass. If you get that, it's a first down. Maybe you score a touchdown, so, I mean, I don't think that's completely incorrect. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Well, thank you, Emerson. Appreciate the call. That's a good analysis, Billy. Better than you could have provided right there. I'll give her credit. That was a good call. That was a good call. That's right.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Are you ready, by the way, to tomorrow night do an NFL show. I am so excited to watch football all day and then do a show with you. I'm excited about it. I'm excited to see you that late at night. I'm going to be a little tired, but yeah. You think you're going to be, I got a three-hour show in the morning. Oh, that's right. I don't know how you do it.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Yeah, who's next? Jerry is next. Toledo 45 Weston 7. Thank you. Jerry, go ahead, Jerry. Hey, Matt. You know, one of the, I mean, I always dogged for being pessimistic this year, but one of the reason I was so pessimistic is I didn't think this offensive staff should have been brought back. And I haven't seen anything in these first two games that tells us.
Starting point is 00:59:42 me that they're any better. I mean, the defense is better than I thought it'd be. I think the only prayer this team has of winning more than three games this year is the defense has to hold teams less than 20 points because after, I mean, I just don't think Bush Hamden's got what takes. I mean, I, I, I'm not quite there, but I can see why you are and you give me a couple games similar to this and I might be right there too. So, Jerry, I understand that. I mean, I do. I appreciate the. I think the offensive, you know, offense lines better. I think it looks like they've got two good running backs.
Starting point is 01:00:20 I mean, the decision to bring those two guys, Seth McGowan is going to be really good. I hope we get to appreciate him by being in games that will allow him. I mean, he was great today. Dowdell, I think, is very good, too. But, you know, it doesn't matter if you can't throw the ball and you make bizarre decisions like third nine quarterback sneak. with a guy who's just coming the game.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Three more. Who's next? Phil. Phil. Phil. Yeah, first of all, I think we just lost by seven. So that was on the upside. Secondly, I'm really disappointed that as far as UK goes, you have appointed yourself
Starting point is 01:01:02 the vocal spokesman for the fan base. I'm really tired to listen to you. Well, you don't have to listen. Just for the record. You don't have to listen. Trust me. Trust me, I don't listen. Why are you calling?
Starting point is 01:01:16 How would you even know? Hang on just a second. Hang on. Turn him down for a second. How would you even know I'm on the radio? And I'm doing a show right now, unless you had either your streaming device or your radio turned up. How would you even know I was on the air? Now go ahead.
Starting point is 01:01:33 And Pecoya, those two, the bleach of Pecora, they were named the whole game. Pecoro. Pecoro is there. Whatever his name. I don't care what his name is. It sounds like you don't care. You listen to him. Hang on.
Starting point is 01:01:44 You listen to Tom Leach. You listen to Jeff Piccoro. You listen to Matt Jones, but you don't care what any of them say. Now, go ahead. No, I appreciate everything they say. But they were negative. They were down. They need to go back and listen to the tape of what they talked about during the game.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Because it was depressing, listen to those people. Well, we were losing. I would have thought we were behind. We were behind a 60-4. The way those two guys talked. I mean, really, I wish we would upgrade all of all. spokesman for our school. Okay, first of all, I'm not a spokesman.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Just for the record, I appreciate the call. I'm not a spokesman, okay? This is a radio show that I created 20 years ago out of the basement of my friend's apartment. All right, you don't have to listen. It is totally fine for you not to, but the reality is you are listening. For what that reason is, maybe it's masochism.
Starting point is 01:02:37 I don't know, but you're listening. But I'm not a spokesman for anybody. You think the university's happy with what I've said during the last hour? I say what I think. You don't have to listen. I'm not the spokesman for the fans. But what I will not do, at least I won't do, is just have the fans being called the reason that things are bad. No fan base in sports has given more in historically and gotten less than UK football.
Starting point is 01:03:06 Now, to the credit of Mark Stoops, that calculus has changed some in the last. decade. He is given, I am a Mark Stoop's fan overall. And if he leaves at the end of the year, two years, three years, I'm going to say, overall, that man was good for Kentucky football. But that doesn't change. Like you can't live in the past. You have to live in the now and the future. Okay. One of these days, I'm going to be too old to do this. I'll probably have quit before then, but I will. And it won't matter if I was good for the 25 years before. If I'm not good in that day, I shouldn't be doing it anymore. right we let if you if you live for the past then the future passes you buy and i worry
Starting point is 01:03:53 that in deciding this we can't just say what's happened in the past we have to say what is happening right now and right now we're seeing a pattern so as far as me i'm not the spokesman for fans i'm the spokesman for me and a lot of people seem to agree with me or at least want to hear If you don't, there are other stations. I think the alien show starts here soon. You can listen to that. And if you think Tom Leach is too negative, Tom Leach, who is one of the nicest people I've ever met
Starting point is 01:04:27 and probably one of the most positive people about UK sports on the planet, if he's too negative for you, then chances are, man, you just need to sit in silence It's because your opinion is going to be the only one that makes you happy. Two more. Who's next? So tired of you being the spokesperson for this fan base, Matt. Tyler is next.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Tyler, go ahead, Tyler. Matt, it's good to talk to you. My voice is a little scratchy because I went to the game this evening. It was very, very aggravating. But I tell you, man, listen to these callers. One thing I've learned to do with Kentucky football is temper my expectations. And while I'm aggravated that we lost tonight, I'm not really surprised, but I think what aggravates me, and I feel like, I don't want to say I speak for the fan base here because that's kind of arrogant.
Starting point is 01:05:14 But I feel like I'm the average football fan that says, hey, I've got a Saturday where Kentucky's playing, or I've got a bunch of other stuff I can do, and I decided to go watch the game. Yes. I feel like we're kind of stuck in a cycle right now where the crowd shows out. Today's crowd was great. I thought, you know, I looked up and I was like, man, there's quite a few people there. There was a lot of people there. Yeah. Oh, there was.
Starting point is 01:05:40 And I was really proud of the fan base, how they showed out. But what I get sick of, I think, as a fan is I go in, and I feel like I kind of know how the game is going to go. Like, I didn't know the exact score tonight. But I kind of thought we're going to probably. You knew in general, yeah. Exactly. I thought this is going to be an aggravating game.
Starting point is 01:05:59 I'm going to walk out like I've walked out a million other times ticked off, wanting to, you know, beat a bunch of people up and all that stuff. But what I think, what I get aggravated is when Stoops goes in his post-game press conferences and says, we've got to be better, we've got to be better. But we watch the same old crap. And I'm sick of it. It's like at some point, man, something's got to change. And I feel like the past couple of years we've been just stuck in a rut where it's like,
Starting point is 01:06:23 we have these problems and they rear their ugly heads in the most important situations, play calling and consistencies into half errors. Like this stuff that we're like, man, this isn't, I don't feel like it's hard to fix, especially for the coach that's been coaching the SEC program for 12 years, but we're still in these kinds of situations. And at some point, the fan base is going to go, and you spoke to apathy earlier, the fan base is going to go, you know what, we got better stuff to do than watch this crap show.
Starting point is 01:06:52 First of all, you said it better than I could. I appreciate the call. That's a great call. It's also, look, it's 2025. I can literally hit a button on this little box in my hand and talk to any human beings. being in the world, right? I can watch any television show. I can watch any game of any sport.
Starting point is 01:07:12 I can, like, we have so many options now. You cannot take for granted that people, here's the thing that's different about football. It is a time commitment, okay? I got up this morning at 10.30 to start this day of stuff. many of you were already out when I got up. I mean, I was up, but I left my house at 10.30. Like many of you were already out there. Let's say you want to tailgate.
Starting point is 01:07:40 I mean, just think about the time commitment to come to a game. A lot of you are listening right now who drove from far ends of the state to make this trip, and you're listening to this. You have put in 14 to 15 hours of your day for this tailgating, right? If you come to go to a bar, KAS bar, KAS bar you go to see your friends you go to the game you sit in traffic getting out you get sitting traffic leaving the city you try to get a meal you're with your kids it costs a lot of money like this football is a massive time commitment and you only get so many Saturdays in your life
Starting point is 01:08:17 and we as UK football fans you all that go pick eight of your Saturdays to go spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars to go like you deserve to be happy. So that's why it's not about being anything except acknowledging we have got as a university as a fan. You like you can't keep taking these people for granted. One more. Who's next? Brandon. Brandon. Go ahead, Brandon. Yeah, Matt. You know, we as a season ticket holder, we come down there every Saturday and it hits a lot of the points that you've talked about tonight. And, you know, the fact that we have been 0 and 8 or 0 and 9 against
Starting point is 01:08:59 SEC opponents at home what part of the schedule do you see for the remainder of this year do you think that there's an opportunity for us to maybe you know knock somebody off or not supposed to but because basically what you've talked about
Starting point is 01:09:15 all night is you know that's why we come and that's we show up, we cheer, we get excited and it's one of those things where it's like it's just let down after letdown. Well, the SEC home schedule this year was unique because there are no games that Kentucky should win in the SEC, right? I mean, this one arguably was maybe the easiest, but it's not easy. We were an eight and a half point underdog. So you're going to play Texas, Tennessee and
Starting point is 01:09:43 Florida, and you're going to be big underdogs to all of them. I think, yes, you could steal one of those, Tennessee or Florida, but am I confident we will? No. But the reason, the thing is, you're going to get in the car probably and go because you want to have that moment, which I've had to, where we did steal one, right? Like, does one stick out for you? Yeah, of course, one of the biggest moments, you know, in my life was, and I'm your age, one of the biggest moments in my life was when Kentucky beat LSU at home and they were ranked number one.
Starting point is 01:10:19 And also when Matt Rourke beat Tennessee, you know, and we hadn't done that for so long. So, you know, I tell one of my best friends, I was like, we've never beat Tennessee and Florida in the same year, you know, at the same time. And regardless home or away. And it's one of those things where it's just like you want that big win, you want that big victory. And I'm a die hard basketball fan. But at the end of the day, you want Kentucky football to be relevant in the SEC. And it's just like, you know, you keep paying the money and you want to be there and you support them. And it just never happens.
Starting point is 01:10:52 Yeah, I get it. And there's a joy. We've talked about this a lot on the show. There's a joy that comes with winning a regular season football game that does not come with a regular season basketball game because there's so few of them. And in Kentucky football case, it's so rare. And so I appreciate the call.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Yeah, I mean, one of them could happen with Texas, Florida, or Tennessee. But I think what's frustrating to me about tonight is there were a lot of pieces. that could have made tonight one of those. Right? They had two turnovers early in the game. They gave us the ball inside their 30 twice. Right.
Starting point is 01:11:33 They had a new quarterback on the road that at times looked a little rattled. We had multiple chances to tie the game and to put Lane Kiffin. The pressure on him is Mark Stoops, the guy that makes Lane Kiffin crazy. If we score there at the end, it could be tied. Who knows what happens? We had multiple chances, and then the same old things that have always plagued this era of Kentucky football showed up. And that is why this is frustrating. There are these nights that are special.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Austin McGinnis kick against Mississippi State. LSU, Bud Dupree's return against South Carolina, the block punt against Florida, Matt Roark against Tennessee, Stevie got lose. against the Louisville. Like, you have these moments, and we all can remember where we were. Tonight could have been one of those, but the same mistakes that plagued UK football in the last decade under Stoops ended up happening. Thank you, folks, very much, for staying up and listening. Tomorrow, I'll be on ESPN radio in the morning, and we're doing our NFL podcast at night. Cats lose, 30 to 23 in Kroger Field.
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