KSR - KSR Postgame UK FB vs South Carolina 9/7/24

Episode Date: September 8, 2024

Matt and Billy recap the Cats' 31-6 loss to South Carolina.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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an hour and a half ago. The reports are kind of varied as to how many people, but multiple people were shot, close to, I'm going to read you the information I have. The issue occurred near exit 49, which is, I think that's the Livingston exit, near Wilderness Road. They have closed I-75 between exit 41 and 59, and U.S. 25 in Kentucky, 909, are closed 9 miles north of London. They have not found the suspect. There are other things that I've heard, but I don't want to report just because, you know, we don't know them for sure. But it is a serious situation in that part. A lot of you are driving home from the game, and if you are headed to

southeastern Kentucky, there's a good chance you're going that way. And so I would say to you, you're not going to be able to go that way. They are advising people. to pull off in Mount Vernon and then go, and for those of you from that area, if you need to go to London and that area down through Somerset and London, it's going to be a longer way. But you really don't have any other way to get to that part of the state right now. So for those of you that are heading in that direction home, which is pretty much everybody that would be from southeastern Kentucky, you need to know that and avoid the area. As for the people in the London and Livingston, Mount Vernon area,

advising to stay at home. Because as of now, and I'll tell you if this changes, there are no reports that they have caught the suspects. So police are on the scene, but not only that, apparently the Department of Homeland Security is on the scene. So I will update you as things come out. You know, we could sit here and talk the whole time without really knowing anything.

I don't really think that's productive. will switch to football, but I don't in any way want to act like it is as important as what it's happening down there. And, you know, from what I've heard, kind of a very serious situation. So keep them, keep everyone in mind as you're going home, keep what I just said to you about roads in mind. And if we get any information during the show, we will give it to you as soon as we do. So putting that aside, football game was awful. It was a 34 to 6 loss that kind of, I mean, I don't want to say this is the worst loss of the Mark Stoops era because I feel like we've said that a couple of times in the last few years. And there comes a point if you keep saying it, it stops meaning anything.

But I think the loss two years ago at home to Vandy is in the ballpark of this, but, you know, this might be worse because you didn't just lose. you got destroyed and it's the second game of the season and it's hard to feel optimistic about the rest of the season and I think what makes this such an indictment right now of the program is that the program has a lot of talent you know last year there were times in basketball where we said look how much talent there is well I mean you also have to say that about football I mean they they have I've been

told they believe they have more draft picks on this year's team than maybe they've ever had. And you saw some talent on the field that is individually pretty impressive, especially on the defensive line linebackers. But it is clear that the offensive side of the ball is a disaster. Only 44 yards of passing. Brock Randigriff was three for 10 for 30 yards, which is just abysmal, especially when you have three guys as good at wide receiver as Kentucky does, which have NFL prospects, and you can't even come close to getting them the ball. It is hard to know what percentage of the blame goes on Brock Vandergriff.

I think he didn't particularly play well, but also I think there's a lot of the game. He didn't particularly have much of a chance because the Kentucky offensive line, this is the worst offensive line I have seen, you know, I don't know. You probably have to. to go back to either Stoops' first year or maybe, maybe Joker. The offensive line was just atrocious and atrocious atrocious atrocious at every position.

The blocking wasn't just bad on the offensive line. I mean, the running backs didn't block. Nobody blocked. It was, it's hard for me to make a strong judgment on Vandergriff because I don't even know how much time he ever had. It was a disaster. What was odd is it felt like they could run the ball up the middle. It felt like as a run blocking team. they were relatively successful.

But from a past protection-wise, I can't remember the last time I've seen a Kentucky team get dominated like that. I mean, just absolutely dominated, which didn't really give you a chance to do much of anything. The play calling stoop's apparently on his radio comments at halftime, sort of called it out. Yeah, I mean, I think that's part of it for sure, maybe the majority part of it.

But at its core, that is just not a well-coached group. whether you're talking play calling, whether you're talking the, you know, coaching of Will Wolford, who used to be here, went to Alabama and now is back. Whatever you want to call it, it's not good. And it's hard to see. You got Georgia coming in here next week. You know, you've got a team that's lost, what, two games in four years coming here next week. So it feels like a low point.

It feels like a definite low point for kids. Kentucky football. I don't know what you do because this is only game two. So you still got to play 10 more games regardless. It is hard to feel optimistic about the other 10 games. I mean, the sort of things where we talked about the dream of what this season could be, that's out the window, right? Right now you're sitting there going, let's try to be competitive next week,

let's beat Ohio, and then let's see if we can re-groom. for Old Miss. I mean, that's, and even that feels like it's way far away, right? I mean, how do you, how do you get excited about how, about where things are right now? There are, this is probably the lowest. I've seen our fan base about stoops since he's been here. And to be honest with you, I get it. You know, I get it.

I like Mark. I like Mark. I think he's done a great job. job here for the most part, and I think he's been the most successful coach in my lifetime. But he's put himself in a place where, you know what, he's going to have to deal with this, and he has to, because he made what I thought was the worst error of his time at Kentucky last year, which is after we lost to Georgia by about 50, coming on and saying this fan base needs to pony up.

those words are going to haunt him. I had a friend at the game text me and say there were people screaming that from the sideline in the fan section. Reminds me of some of the stuff that was happening at the SEC tournament last year with Cal. And when you say that, and I came and said that on the radio right after, I said, well, now you, that wasn't the time, and you're going to have to live with that.

and if you remember, I think the next week they lost to Missouri, and now you come, you have the talent to beat South Carolina at home. You have the talent to not be embarrassed in the first ever SEC game on ABC, first 3.30 game on ABC with Greg McElroy and Sean McDonough, like a great, like big-time announcers. You've got that talent. And to be honest with you, people did pony.

There are some boosters that made Kentucky's NIL very competitive, probably more competitive than a school on Kentucky's level is nationwide. They kept players here like Dionne Walker, who was actually great today. They went and got a quarterback, kept Barry and Brown, kept, you went and got to Georgia, former All-American linebacker. They got a probably top two or three round pick in Maxwell Harrison. they went and got, you know, complimentary pieces. They kind of ponied up.

And then you get this. So there's 10 games left in the year. The people who say, oh, you got a fire Mark Stoops. That's ridiculous. There's 10 games left. Like, you don't do anything right now. But he made a bed in which he set a standard. he told the fans to do something.

They did it, and this is the result. You may remember last year after they lost to Missouri. I came on this postgame show and I said that I thought that Kentucky football had in the last two years had sort of an undeserved arrogance. That after the 10 and 3 year with Levis, they still walked around as if they were 10 and 3 without being 10 and 3.

Well, what's interesting is, I didn't really get that feeling from the players this year. I actually was kind of the clips I saw the players. I kind of liked the attitude they had. I like the way the coaches talked. But, so I don't know that I would say

it's an undeserved arrogance this year. But there's like a, there was like kind of a hostility that Stu, expressed at times about the fan base that was sort of shown with that pony up statement. And I hope things can get back on track this year because there's still a long way to go. And this is going to be a hard schedule. It's not clear how you even for certain get to six to win a bowl.

Auburn lost at home to Cal today. So they're not great. Neither's Florida. You know, you got Van. I mean, there is a path to six, but like it's certainly not. for sure. And you kind of wonder, is this the start of a decline that's hard to stop? I said on the pregame show that I thought South Carolina games have really been sort of the, I don't know, they've kind of been the symbol for what Kentucky football has been under stoops.

Kentucky and South Carolina are very similar programs. They should be, they've got pretty much the same resources. South Carolina probably has some more recruits in their state, but they also have to fight with Clemson for those recruits. Kentucky's NIL and fan-based situation is probably similar or better to South Carolinas. And when Stoops, if you look at Stoops era, most of his first big moments were against South Carolina. His first big win was a home win here against South Carolina.

His first big road win was a road win. at South Carolina. They won seven of eight games against South Carolina. So as they passed them, they sort of showed we are hitting a new tier of SEC football. Now you wonder, is this the symbol of the opposite? Three straight years of losing. Let's say you ride off the game where Will Levis got hurt. Last year, they lost on the road due to turnovers and discipline that was kind of

symbolic of the team last year. And now this year, they get absolutely destroyed at home by a team that nearly lost to Old Dominion. And you wonder, is this going to be a symbol of the rest of the year where this team's just bad? And it's not clear where the program goes. So if South Carolina is a mirror to what Kentucky is, today was a pretty awful sign. Billy's going to open the phones, 859-280, 2287.

I'm going to try to keep you up to date about the other situation as much as I can. We're going to talk football. That's the easiest way to do this, and I understand there will be frustration. There should be. I say a lot that, you know, Kentucky football is not Alabama or Georgia, but the days of losing 34 to 6 to South Carolina should be behind them. And unfortunately today, they're not. 859-2807. We'll take a break. Be right back. It's the local toy dealers,

KSR post-game show. Welcome back. It is the local toy dealers KSR post-game show. We are right now trying to get someone to come on with us to just give the latest. I know it's the natural inclination of people online to be, as I say, sometimes the worst version of themselves. but also there are people who I think have tried just to make lighthearted jokes about the situation and like now's not the time. I want you folks to think about, you know, there's a shooter in the area they do not, they do not have them captured. That's a very wooded area.

And there are also 20 miles of people stuck on the interstate. So it is not, and it's nighttime now. It is not a great situation. And so everyone should have, say, prayers for the folks that are out there. and the cops and everybody dealing with it because this is a serious situation right now. And hopefully we can get the latest here soon while we're on the air. All right, 859-28027. Who's up next?

Chad. Chad. How are you, Chad? Hey, Matt. I'm doing all right. Well said on what you just commented on. My son's up at the game. He may be coming home this evening.

Yeah, a little worried. Anyway, to the game, I called you. after Stoop said something about the NIL. You said it wasn't the right time. Maybe I agree with you, but it needed to be said. And I think I said it at the time. So now we all done that. We all put our money where our mouth was.

And I'm a realistic Kentucky fan. I'm 45. I've been watching them since I was a kid. I bleed blue. I mean, it's a production every weekend that we grill out, we watch the cats, we enjoy. And I don't expect to win 10 games every year. But I'll tell you what I do expect.

I expect us to beat South Carolina. I mean, it's a total embarrassment. It is. I mean, there's no way we lose to that team. And I'm not saying Stoops has got to go, but I do think things have to be looked at. Well, you lost three years in a row. And for me, and I don't know if you feel like this, it's not just that you lost tonight. I mean, I would be, let me be honest with me, I'd be frustrated if we came on here.

And it was, I think at halftime, it was 10-6, and I thought, we're going to lose this game like 17 to 13 and I was going to feel frustrated. But when it's 31 to 6 against the South Carolina team that if you look at their schedule will probably struggle to go to a bowl, like that's frustrating. That's beyond frustrating. That's like huge disaster of a start to a season. Absolutely. And that's exactly what's probably going to happen is I'm telling after tonight and I hate to be

Debbie Downer, but I don't expect to. bowl game. I don't know where six years are. I don't either. I mean, just look at it. They're going to beat Ohio and Murray State. All right, so that's three. Vandy went and beat Virginia Tech. And so, like, the last time they played in Lexington, they beat us. So I don't think you can just chalk that one up. Auburn's coming. They lost a cow, so they're in a very similar situation to us, but you can't be certain we win. At Florida, it's on the road. Then look at the other games. What are you for sure winning? I mean, Louisville, do I think, we have a chance to beat them.

Depends on how the season goes. But then the other games you're not winning unless something drastically changes. So you're exactly right. I mean, the not making a bowl is a real, real, not only possibility. I think if you were betting on it now, it might be a probability. Absolutely. Absolutely. Well, you know, I hate to give up on them so early, but still go catch.

But, yeah, definitely a tough Saturday. Thanks, man. Appreciate it. 859-280-2287. Nebraska leads Colorado 14-0. And it would be fun to talk about if we hadn't lost the fact that Notre Dame loses at home a 28-point favorite to Northern Illinois. If you get a chance, you want to feel good about something.

Go watch the Northern Illinois coach's post-game speech on a post-game interview on the field. It's like, for all the nonsense of college sports and college football and people say, oh, NIL, go watch that. that's still what makes a sport great are moments like those. Who's next? Lance. Lance, go ahead, Lance.

Yeah, Matt. It just feels like to me and the stoops here in the last few years when the NLs become such a priority that he's been so focused on getting the best position players rather than getting to the bread and butter of what he does and that's focusing on the offensive line. You know, it's an interesting point.

You know, they've spent if you go back and you look at Stoops is the core of his good years, what have they had? They've had a really good offensive line. They've had one or two guys on the defensive line that are better than what we used to get at Kentucky, and then they've had a really good running back. Well, you look this year, they got the defensive line, and they got the running back. It looks like we haven't seen Chip train him yet, but Demi Sumo looks like a, you know, a really good running back.

but the offensive line is just not there, and you may be right. Some of the NIL focus on skill players and kind of taking the next step, they may have skipped the most basic step for Kentucky, which is a Stoops team, which is going to be conservative. There comes a point, by the way, with Stoops, that you can't keep talking about your offensive coordinator when you've had like six different ones and they're all struggling. There comes a point that maybe it is not investing in that offensive line.

Yeah, absolutely. We always know he wants to run the ball, and when we're at our best, that's what we do. And the last couple of years, we haven't been able to do that at all. And today we were able to run the ball, but the pass protection was absolutely horrible. Yeah, well, I appreciate it, and you're exactly right. They actually, appreciate the call. They actually did run the ball pretty well, honestly, especially up the middle. And so it feels like the run blocking is not the issue, but this is the worst pass

protection. This is the worst press protection. All right, we have on the phone. Billy, who is this? The mayor of London, Randall Weddle. Randall Weddell is the mayor of London, Kentucky. Mayor, thank you very much for taking a second. There's a lot of people listening to this that are heading home or trying to head home. Give people the latest on what's going on down there. So, you know, currently we don't, we've not apprehended the individual or individuals. We have learned that or we're thinking that this is not just some random shooting. It's starting to sound like it was two vehicles that got into an altercation. Then they started firing.

So there is more than one currently. We are thinking this. obtaining information from witnesses that are at the hospital. So we've had seven that is currently with minor injuries to more severe, but there is no one that has passed away at this time. And the one with the severest injuries, we were just told that it appears that they will survive from those injuries sustained. We're asking everybody to be vigilant.

If they don't need to be out tonight to go home, it's important that they are if they are out that they are being vigilant because these people have not been apprehended at this time okay so seven so seven people shot but no one has passed away yet as of this point no they were three to four people shot and when the firing started happening there were some accidents vehicle accidents because of that so some of these injuries are stained from car wrecks. Not everybody was shot, no. But the ones that were the actual wrecks themselves were minor injuries. Okay. All right. Well, that's a good update, but still the shooter is at large. But the roads all around London closed down, is that correct? No, the roads are not all closed down.

obviously the scene on the I-75 will continue for some time. They are routing traffic currently up around Mount Vernon. But traffic is flowing through London. Through London, okay. Correct. We're asking everybody to be vigilant. If they don't need to be out, please go home. Okay.

Mayor, thank you very much for taking the time to call in. Okay, thank you. All right. So there you go. There's the latest on it. obviously not, you know, you don't want to see any incidents, but not random, which I think actually probably in this situation is good news. All right, what's next?

Les. Les. Go ahead, Les. Oh, yeah, hey, Matt, it's good to talk to you. I've never called in before. You're a fellow Bell County from where you're Middlebury. Middlesbrough, that's right. Well, it's Middleboro where if you're, when you're in Rome,

You pronounce it as the Romans do. I was born and raised in Bell County, but I left there in 1964, and I'll share this with you. I've been a Wildcat fan all my life, and I'm 77 years old. I remember when Cotton Ash played and very personal and the ruff, ruts. Well, this is football now, Les. Let's not go. We don't go to. We talk football here, all right?

I'm waiting for basketball now. Well, that's not what we do. But go ahead. Yeah, no, just regarding this team, to me, I remember John Ray, and of course, then Fran Cursey gave us a lot of hope and had done well for the few years he was here. But then we've had some, I guess, unfortunate hires to say the league. All right, but Les, what about this team in this game, all right? Well, it's going to be a long season. I just think we're not versatile enough.

There's not a jumbo package or a third and one or a fourth and one or whatever. You know, you've got to have some innovation. And they've got the athletes. But the offensive coordinator, you know, they've gone through a few of them this past few years. But I think, to be honest, we hate to say it, Stoops is a good guy. I've met him before. and miss some of the coaches. But my gut feeling, it's probably time to be looking at another direction.

Well, Les, thank you very much for your call. I appreciate it. You know, I think there are going to be, there are people that feel that way. You know, look, for me, I'm not nearly there yet. It's two games in the season. As I said last year during the Calgary season, it doesn't really do a lot of good to talk about that right. now because it's like it's not going to happen right now so it's more for me about can you get something

out of this and can you not produce just embarrassment after embarrassment so which is something i never would have thought i would have said at 1 30 today 3 30 today but that's how bad this game was and you know there's a part of me that wonders if we will look back and go you know there were a couple moments where things turned around. I think the pony up statement and now this, you know, you wonder if like you're starting to see steps of a decline that will be hard to flip around. Who's next? Alan.

Alan. Alan. Hey, Matt. How you doing? Doing good. Listen, I don't think it's much about comments, this, that, and the other from the past. But this year, at this point, from what I've seen so far, is if this O-line doesn't step up and be at least halfway decent, we are in bad shape. Because South Carolina, like, Southern Miss made it seem like, oh, we may have a problem, but we had hopes.

But South Carolina showed us like, if this O-line doesn't do anything, then we're in trouble. No, I agree with that. I totally agree that. I don't know how they get better, though. I appreciate the call. I mean, they got dominated almost position by position. You know, I'm trying to think we had Mincey get beat play after play

and then have two straight illegal formation penalties. We had Cox get beat a couple times in a row. Marcus, Eli, as well, Jagger gets hurt. You know, it's hard to find a bright spot, to be honest with you. And I do think, look, we were losing this game either way. But the fact that we, you know, we took for granted for a long time with Benny Snell and Chris Rodriguez, and even with Will. It was third and one.

Billy, it was a first down every single time. And they had a third and one and a fourth and one, and they didn't get it. I think Stoop's kind of panicked on that fourth and one. He basically admitted that in the post-game press. conference. But the bigger issue is that you can't get it, right? That you can't get it. Yeah. Go ahead. I was just going to say, I don't understand how bad, how this offensive line could be that bad. Illegal shifts, illegal formations. It's like they weren't even being coached. And they welcome back to Eric Wolfford after they backstab stoop a couple years ago. Let's

just welcome them back. I'm really, the Eric Wolford thing is interesting. I think I called him Will earlier. But Eric Wolford, you know, he did like kind of backstap stoop's on the taking the Alabama job with the timing. And then he, uh, he, he, he, he does, Alabama, I don't think their fans liked him a lot. And now you get back here and just an absolutely dreadful, I mean, just a dreadful performance. That, I just can't remember a time the offensive lines played worse. What's next? Uh, Joey is next. Joey, go ahead, Joey. Hey, good evening, counselor. How are you?

Doing good. Hey, I was up on brother-in-law's house watching this game. And at the end of the game, I was thinking to this out, where do we go from here? Counselor, where? Where do we go from here? I don't know. I mean, I think the first thing you have to do is try to figure out

how to be moderately competitive next week. Because, you know, just as a practical matter, let's, you know, we play Georgia. Georgia could beat us 50 to nothing. like they could. So if you go and get beat 50 or nothing, how many people you think are going to be at the Ohio game the next week? Right?

I mean, it's probably not going to be a lot. So like you need to at least make a statement that the wheels are not just off. And, you know, is there a worst team you could play in the country in that moment than Georgia? You know, because it's not just that they have the talent. They're disciplined and well-coached. You're not going to catch them in a weird. So I don't know. If I was trying to be optimistic, if I was trying to be optimistic, I'd say this.

Next week kind of doesn't matter because you're going to lose either way. You beat Ohio, and then you go down there and say, our chance to get the season back is against Ole Miss. Now, do I think that's likely? No, but do I think that's probably the way you've got to look at it? Yes. Do you think quarterback sellers is like, hey, how do you like these goggles? was now Kentucky. Well, I don't think he played particularly well. I mean, like, you know, he, he,

he had two really good receptions, but they were both because of busted coverages by our secondary. Right. You're right. So I, you know, and he had a third busted coverage where he missed and threw an interception to tie Bryant. I mean, that was a busted coverage, too. He should have completed that pass. So, you know, I don't, I don't think he played particularly well. They won that game because their defensive line destroyed us. It did. Appreciate it. So do we have a large crowd next week? You know, yes, but it might be a lot of Georgia fans.

I appreciate the call. I mean, we'll have a crowd. I mean, it's Georgia. It's the number one team. I don't know if they're number one. Are they number one in the country? The number one team in the country, they're really good. They'll bring a lot of people. I think our fans will still come. I don't know about the next week. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I don't know. It's a night game. Yeah.

As somebody who owns a bar, I'm sitting there thinking, like, do we just need to move on to basketball? I don't think we're there yet, but I'll tell you what, if we're sitting here next week and we're on the radio at 1230 at night, I may be sitting there going, and we've lost 55 to nothing or something, then I don't know what happens.

What's next? Garrett. Garrett, go ahead, Garrett. man how are you doing sir i'm good good good well first off let's just talk about like those random just uh balls that just bounced right towards sacrizona i mean we had true but the true but to be fair they bounced towards us too no wait a minute hang on i'll let you finish i'll let you finish but before you say well random balls bounce towards them random balls bounced towards us we fumbled the ball three times before South Carolina did and recovered all three.

So yes, they had three balls fumbled that they recovered, but we had three even before that. You are correct. You are correct. What I would say is that I would think that what suited us better in that game was just like we literally looked like we were sluggish and slow getting to the line and getting plays out there. If we could have just sped that ball up a little bit faster, it might have helped our offensive line to not just have to sit back there

and just wait on getting just pummeled left and right. Would you agree with that statement? You know, maybe. I mean, here's the thing. Do I think Gavin Wimsett, for instance, and I appreciate the call as a better quarterback than Brock Vandigriff? Not necessarily, but it might be the case if we can't protect. if we can't protect him, that you might have to look at that because he's more mobile.

I mean, part of the problem was Vandergriff, even when he wasn't being severely pressured, I think he felt like he was and he would start running backwards. It was, I mean, I think he got the situation. And, you know, in some ways you can't blame him. You get hit over and over and over and you get people in your face that, like, he almost immediately was heading, was backpedaling. And just, he didn't, you know, he didn't have a chance. I'm not saying he played well, but I don't know that I can definitively judge the guy when, you know, they were in the backfield every play.

Who's next? Matt. Matt. Matt. Matt. Matt. Matt. Okay.

No, Matt. We'll go to Big Cat. Big Cat. 859-280-2287. Go ahead. Hey, Matt. I play a lot of into a football and how Bush calls. the game today, the jet sweeps and stuff aren't going to work.

Like, they were working on. Anyway, hang on, I just say, did you start that sentence with how you play a lot of, of football on the video games? And so that's, that's, that's the way you're prefacing it? Yes, me and my buddies play a lot of play football. And how you call the game, you cannot run the jet sweeps. After a while, they, they do not fall for it. and Bush-Hannon was not calling the game right.

He was running the jet sweeps. And on that second, I think it was second or third down, and it was second and one, I think it was second and one. They did not fall for it, and it ended up being third and eight. And it cost us a drive. That was a big play. And, yeah, that was a big play. I appreciate the call.

And they, I don't understand. I didn't understand that. Second one, you jet sweep now at third and eight. you're out of the drive. I agree with you. That was a big mistake. I do like Billy, though, that he's qualified because he plays a lot of NCAA 25. Well, so am I then.

Maybe I could coach better than stoops or ham. I think it is important to remember that that's a video game. This is a real life. I'm not saying your point was wrong. I just think next time you don't start it with I play a lot of 2K. Maybe you say, like, that'd be like, You know, I watch the NASCAR race. I drive around a lot on Man of War.

I can turn left. I feel like I know what's happening at Darlington. 8-59-280-2287. We're going to take a break and be right back. It's the local Toyota dealers, KSR Post-Game Show. Welcome back. It is the local toy dealers KSR Post-Game show. London police say 32-year-old Joseph Couch is a personal.

of interest in the shooting in Laurel County. That's according to L.EX 18 News, and he is believed to be armed and dangerous, according to LEX. So, like I said, just give you the latest as it comes out. You heard from the London

mayor earlier. He's also since being on this show, made up a public statement as well that was basically similar to what he said on here. 859-280-2287. Cats, pretty terrible, terrible game. On the text machine, people are writing.

One person says, Matt, I'm frustrated. We stayed through all the delay of hours last week. We got there early, like they said this week. He said, don't even get me started on going into the game, which was a complete disaster, longest lines I've ever seen, including last week, all that, and then you get that performance. That is not what you want. The other person writes, Matt, I'm pleasantly surprised. you knew what Darlington was.

How did you know that? These people act like I don't want, I didn't watch. I watched NASCAR before that person was even bored. Yeah, come on. That's a buzzword. What do you know? You know, everybody knows Earnhardt and Gordon. Do you know Sterling Marlin?

Do you know Kenny Schrader? I bet you don't know Kenny Schrader. How about handsome Harry Gant? I was watching when they were driving. Don't you talk to me about what did you know about NASCAR? I watched Darlington when it was originally on the schedule, along with Northwark's Northwestern. Wilkesboro.

Yeah. It's back on the schedule now, too, but they took it off for a long time. Don't talk to me. Terry Labani. You got any more? You know, let's see. I'm trying to think about the cars. You had the Bodines, you had Todd Bodine, Jeff Bodine, Brett Bodine.

They were brothers. They didn't like each other, Billy. Why not? Like in real life? I don't know. They just have beef. So they'd wreck each other on the track. No.

And then they'd go to the stands and the moms. mom would be like, they got along at Thanksgiving. And then they'd go wreck each other on the track. You have the bodines. Two Lubani's. Bobby and Terry. All right, who's up next? Luke.

Luke, go ahead, Luke. By the way, if you have old, I'm talking 80s and 90s NASCAR drivers, 772-745254, we'll add a little levity to the situation. Go ahead. Yeah, don't really know what to say after that. You can talk about the football game. It's okay. No, that's what I mean.

The football game, a complete and utter embarrassment. I mean, just awful. I mean, just everything is awful. I mean, dagum, we completed eight passes and two of them went to the other team. And the only touchdown we scored with for the other team on offense. I mean, just embarrassing. I mean, what the hell? Where the hell do you go from here?

I mean, this is, you know, you're staring at a four-win season. If you win four games, Matt, I mean, I don't want to talk about a new coach because I just don't think that's really productive after week two. But frankly, if you win four games, I mean, that's going to be hard to continue. Well, I think what's worse.

Here's the thing. Okay, so I had this conversation on ESPN, not about Kentucky, but about other programs. Here's the thing about the NILA. In years past, If you had a really bad season, your job was to convince your team and the fan base you could turn it around. And those were entities that you – well, actually, you didn't even really have to convince the fan base. You really only had to convince your team because ultimately it would be like what can you do on the field.

But now you have to be able, if you want to turn it around, to get money for NIL, right? So programs can get in a death spiral where you lose, which makes people want to give less money, which then makes it harder to win, right? And that combination can just spiral out of control. I think you're going to see that happen to programs because, you know, take in college basketball, I don't know if you saw eight of the 10 programs in college basketball that had the highest funded NILs, at least. what they were reporting were programs that got new coaches. Why? Because there's excitement around it. So if you go out and win four games,

you're going to have to go upgrade your roster. And to your point, how do you upgrade your roster when people are going to be like, why am I giving you money? We just went four and eight. I agree with you completely. As somebody who is a season ticket holder, I just put all of my tickets up for sale.

I am not going to another game. I will take a cart and a cigarette and a 30 pack of beer at this point for it. I do not care. You're going to regret that. You're going to regret not going. I mean, I mean it. Like, let's remember.

How old are you, by the way? 24. I'll be 25 in October. Well, so you got to remember there. We're many years everybody went to games, assuming they'd lose all of them. But I understand. Oh, no, no.

I was there when I was there at the 40th of July. Yeah, well, that's true. But it used to be, that used to be every year games like that. But yes. But you don't think you'll go again. You don't think you're going to go again? Not this year. Not this year.

I'm not putting them up this year. I'm not going to go this year. I've just, you know, I've thrown in the towel. It is what it is. I can always watch from my couch. And plus, with the money that I sell them for, I can, you know, put that towards the wedding for me and my fiance. Yeah, I don't know that you're going to get that much for it.

But I appreciate the call. All right. So we got, would you like to hear some drivers? I'm getting bombarded with them. So, yeah, let's hear some more. All right, well, first of all, I said random ones. You can't say Rusty Wallace. Like, that's too good.

I want to hear Ricky Rudd, okay? Ricky Rudd is a good one, the Tide Ride, all right? This one, now this is a really random one. Dave Marcus. Dave Marcus was like, when I was watching Billy, he was like 60, and he would still race. And he would come in last like every time. And I liked it. We used to say Dave Marcus was driving up in the right,

playing with his left turn signal on, just telling people to go with his arm out the window, Billy saying, go on around, go on around. He couldn't let go of that dream. I think he was number, if I'm right about this, this is going to be very impressive. I think he was number 71. Will you look up and see if Dave Marcus was 71? Dave Marcus. How about that memory?

Wow. That guy had the audacity to say I didn't know what, who, who, I didn't know what Darlington was. And I knew Dave Marcus was 71. There was also Billy swervin Ernie Irvin because he wrecks so much. That's a great NASCAR name. Jimmy Spencer. He was really fat. And they used to talk about how they thought his car was slower.

No. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. Look up Jimmy Spencer. He'd cuss a lot too. Who's next? Dale. Dale.

How are you, Dale? I mean, I've been better, Matt, but it's good to talk to you, brother. Yeah, good talking to you as well. First of all, nobody has addressed the fact that Bull County went up and beat a team in Ohio. Yes. It's a number 12 ranked team, and that's a very positive thing for Kentucky football like across the state. There's no, hang on that point, on that point, there's no official record because they haven't ranked high school teams nationally for a long time. But it is believed to be, Max Pritz.

Let me finish. It is believed to be the highest. ranked win for a team from Kentucky ever nationwide. Boyle County beat the number 12. Kudos to the Bull County. Boyle County beat the number 12 team in the country tonight by three touchdowns in Ohio. So go ahead. Shut them out in the second half. Shut them out in the second half. And if you go back and watch that stream, those Ohio announcers were so complimentary of the Bull County team. I was like, come on, guys, you can be homers, you know. But, you know, to the fact, tonight's game, man, it wasn't good, right?

And I still have, I've been a big supporter of Stoops. I don't want to, I'm not ready to throw him under the bus just yet. But man, Shane Beamer kind of owns him, right? He does the last three years. He's three and one in his career. So, you know, what are you going to say? Hey, don't let me go just yet. I want you guys to come down and watch the Washington County commanders play

Bethlehem in a couple weeks. They got a brand new stadium down there. Well, I'd love, I know that Washington County, my friend Max Duffy's playing Washington County this year. I think it's a road game for Lexington Christian. So maybe that'll be the time. Well, but they're playing Washington County. So.

No, man, come down here and check out this new stadium down here they got. I mean, it's just huge. I appreciate the call. But I mean, Lexington Christian is playing Washington County. I'm not just saying I'm going to go see Max's team. I'm saying he's playing your team. And I could see it. Would you like some more names?

People are bringing to me. By the way, stop with Dick Trickle. That's, that's, everybody knows that. I'm talking obscure ones. Alan Colwicky. You know that guy? He drove the Hooters car. Oh, that's a great car.

Hut Strickland. Now, that's a random name. That's a dude. I remember Hut Strickland. Derek Cope, Billy. He won the Daytona 500. And it was maybe the biggest upset of all time. All time.

He won the Daytona 500. Johnny Benson, who once Billy nearly won the Daytona 500 with an unsponsored car. He just had a white car out there because he couldn't get a sponsor and it almost won. That's like Ricky Bobby out there. He literally was riding around with a car that it looked like he got outside of the Speedway before it started. And then he almost won the Daytona 500. He had glasses. That's why I liked him.

Morgan Shepherd, who Billy raced until he was 72. years old. That's too old. Get out of their old timer. That's hanging up. To be fair, 72 is way too old to be racing in NASCAR. Who's next?

I'm impressed. You know your drivers. Well, these are people. People are suggesting these. Max is next. Max, go ahead, Max. Hey, Matt. Just because I say Dick Trickle

doesn't make me any less than NASCAR fans. You know, tough day to day. What Max said on the pregame was, you know, we shouldn't be calling for beating Georgia and winning the addies and all that crap. We should be calling for winning the games that we should win.

And that's more of a statement. So I'll add you with a question. Is there any hope of any kind of heads rolling, right? We're talking about this guy from... I don't think this early. They rolled to Alabama and

all that. Is there any hope of any skin? I'd be very surprised. I mean, I'm not Look, if they go lose by 50 to Georgia, then lose by 50 to Ole Miss, and then it's a by week, could I see them doing something then? Maybe. But right now, no, I would think that will be very, very unlikely, almost certainly no. Yeah. Well, still build the statute, still, Vince Merrill for governor. Vince Merrill is the one person.

I love to see something change. Vince Merrill is one person that will not probably suffer any consequences. I appreciate the call. Wait a minute. All right. So I'm going to do like one in between every caller, all right, Billy. Okay. Ward Burton.

He had a real thick Southwest Virginia accent. He pronounced his name Warba. And like I love to hear him talk. You should go look at a Ward Burton interview. Most country dude that's ever been in a professional sport without question outside of maybe. wrestling. Who's next? LaShawn. LaShawn. How are you LaShawn?

What? What? Hello? Yeah, anytime you're ready. Oh, hi. Unk. All right. I love Stoops. I love our team. But at any time, we need a change. We need a change really bad. Like, we're next week, we're going to Georgia.

And they're about a hook to it all over us, dog. I appreciate you all. Like, that would have been a really good joke. Never. Joe Nemechek. That's another good one. What's next? Cody. Cody, Lake Speed. Go ahead, Cody.

That was his name? He had a guy. His name was Lake Speed. Go ahead, Cody. Hey, man. Can you hear me? Yes. Yeah, November 24th, 2020. Yeah, Elliot Seller from the backseat. But November 25th, 2020,

was an awesome day, and it could have been way better had Mark Stubbs actually got the Texas A&M job because there's no doubt in my mind right now that would be heard of John Somerall was our coach. There's no doubt my mind. That's interesting. You know, I remember that night very well. It'd be interesting to see how things would have played out. Summerall ended up taking the Tulane job. Stoops, I think, was close to being the coach at A&M.

And, you know, you're not the only person that has said that. is the perfect, perfect parting point. Yeah. Well, he does not seem happy here. He does not seem happy. I will say, I agree. He did not. He did not.

He did. I kind of agree with you. He has not seemed as happy this year. And he certainly didn't seem happy today. That's an interesting point. I appreciate the call. I like, I like the. Go ahead.

Go ahead. Sure. So do you think there's another job that Vince, might be up for they might get him another raise listen he's the one person i wouldn't want to lose i'm going to be honest with you if you lose him you won't have a roster i mean uh well the roster we have now just lost by 30 to south carline yeah but what do you want to have what you want to have that you want to lose by more i mean like i look of all the people

all right i appreciate the call of all the people of all the people and i know everybody's going to go well matt your friends with vance which is true but of all the people he'd be the one i blame least I'd start at the offensive line. I'd probably start there because he's coached here a couple times and the offensive line has been bad both of the times. That's probably where I'm starting. Mike Skinner.

You like that name? I do. There's some great NASCAR names tonight. Mike Skinner is Rick Mast. Go ahead. Who's next? Kyle. Kyle.

Kyle, go ahead, Kyle. Hey, what's the I'm at? I have a couple of quick observations from the game tonight. I think that the most, in the midst of all the bad offensive drives that we saw, I think the most damning play was when South Carolina rushed a three-man rush. Yes. Five of our offensive linemen. And all three of them got to the quarterback. That was the play where I said we have no chance of winning this game.

And I even went further to say, that's why I said I can't. really evaluate Vandigriff because on that play, you're right. They just rushed three guys. We were in the end zone. All three of them got through in like a second. You know, I didn't even, like, and I thought to myself, if we can't block three, and then, of course, there's the play that's like went viral on the internet of us having three guys and we couldn't block their freshmen.

That was when you just knew, like, when they went up 17-6, you just knew we can't, we're not, we can't score enough. no matter what. And that felt like the Joker, you know, Bill Curry-era teams. Yeah, and I don't know, I don't know if you agree with this or not, but I feel like as I'm watching, you know, I'm watching the Oklahoma Houston game right now. I feel like our football team has gotten to be where we are an SEC caliber defense. But other than obviously Will Levis and Terry, I mean, there's been glimpses where we have had like an exceptional offense, but I just don't know if consistently I can say that we've had an SPC caliber competitive offense other than those years where it was amazing.

I think that's fair. I think that's fair. I think I'd even go further to say, except for Will's first year, I'm not sure we've ever even had a really balanced offense. You know what I mean? I mean, if it wasn't for Benny, yeah. Yeah, Benny Chris, even Jojo Camp. I mean, I appreciate. to call. Will's first year is the only year. Liam's first go through is really the only time I feel like we had a really balanced top-to-bottom offense.

You know, one of Terry's teams, the team that went 10 and 3, Terry's, that was pretty bound. You had Bowdoin and you had Benny and you had, but I mean, did they have a lot outside of Bowden playing receiver? I mean, I don't know. So, yeah. I mean, I think Will's, that Will year, they were pretty balanced. But I don't know that we've actually had one at all.

I'm going to tell you too quick. And then we're going to take the final break, Bill. You ready? I got one for you. Elliot Sadler had a brother. Do you know what his name is? Was? No.

Hermie. Hermie Sadler. It's an awful man. And then maybe my favorite one that came through because I dated a woman. I was dating a woman that during that time that I was really watching a lot of NASCAR, she was like forced to have to watch the races with me and she hated it. And she decided her favorite driver just because of his name was Wally Dallenbach. How was Wally? Was he a good racer?

No, he's terrible. He would be like 36th every race. Wally Dallemack. All right. What was yours? Neil Bonnet. Neil Bonds, it's a little before my time. He's old. But yeah, I do know the name, yes. Died in a practice race. Yeah, there was a period of time where a lot of guys died. like Kowicki died, Davy Allison died,

I don't want to say maybe Kenny Irwin, Adam Petty. They had a lot over a period of, I don't know, 10 or 15 years. And then when Earnhardt died, it kind of, the sport became a little safer after that. They changed a lot. All right, 859-280, 2287. We will take a break, take your calls.

Cats with a tough loss. Well, not tough. Terrible loss. This is the local toy dealers, KSR post-game show. Welcome back. It is the final segment of local toy dealers, KSR postgame show. I want to thank all of you all for these NASCAR drivers. They have entertained me. I mean, I may be the only person that is entertained. But last thing, well, not last thing. I'll probably read a couple of others.

But, Billy, did you know that no town in America has produced more NASCAR drivers per capita than Owensboro, Kentucky? Than Owensboro? I did not know that. Darrell Waltrip, Mikey Waltrip, Jeremy Mayfield. David Green, Mark Green. And I think there's one more. I think there's six. There might even be one more green. They were all brothers.

I feel like I'm missing one. But that's a lot for Owensboro, Kentucky, don't you think? Yeah, something in the water up there. Is there like a little track they use or something? This was a good one. Somebody wrote me, Juan Pablo Montoya. I've heard of that name before. Well, he was a pretty good indie car driver, and he tried to come over.

And what I remember about him is, during the Daytona 500, he wrecked into the car that they used to clean the track? No, I'm serious. Like, he didn't see the, I don't know if he just wasn't looking. Came around the turn a little too quick. But he just came and hit it because it was up there cleaning something up. He came and hit it and it caught on fire. Jeez.

And it took like three hours because they caught the, I don't know what's he called it, the truck out there that caught it on fire. Who's next? Dennis. Dennis. go ahead Dennis Hey short time listener first time caller I'm from Aurora Colorado long long way

from home I know it's my third Kentucky game I just want to know where Berriam Brown is at muff two punts nothing really I mean he wasn't really getting up the punts Macklin did he I think did it was Macklin it was Macklin I don't know

Barry Ann usually runs kickoff some but he doesn't do punts well and and Macklin is the one that muffed those two punts. I don't know. I think he may have gotten a little hurt on one of those end rounds. Or no, do you know the play where it looked like Vandigriff was going to hand it to Beryon? And then he kept it and Beryon just got rocked by the guy.

He might have gotten hurt. Yeah, he might have gotten banged up on that. I don't know for sure, but you're exactly right. It was like he wasn't out there. Yeah. And I mean, like even when he was going. I mean, not to throw the college football thing around, but I do play college football every now and again. And, I mean, he is so fast in that game.

I just run go routes for him all day. And there was nothing. Yeah, and there was nothing there. And I was, I mean, I said out loud, like, why aren't we doing it? And the nice gentleman in front of me, I love the Southern Hospitality in UK games. I don't know if you guys get that, but it is absolutely fantastic out there. Croger Field, everyone's so welcoming. I love it.

but I was like, why aren't we throwing it here? We're keeping it on the ground. We're only doing jet touch passes or we're only doing short enrout. And someone in front of me said that the 2D linemen were like going to be first-round draft picks in a few years. Like they're five-star freshening. No, they're great. But you still can't let them get through you every single point. I mean, you know.

No, you absolutely shouldn't. I appreciate the call. They are great. Like South Carolina's got a great defensive line. But, you know, we got Deion Walker's going to be a top ten pick and he disrupted the game. but South Carolina still found a way to play offense, right? Like you can't just shut down. The other green, Billy was Jeff Green.

Jeff Green. Jeff, Mike, and David, three brothers, just like the Bodines. I got one you're going to like better than all of them I've said so far. Okay. My cousin, not in real life, but Buckshot Jones. Buckshot. When you name a kid Buckshot, he has to be a NASCAR driver, right? That was his legal name.

He either's got to be like a professional hunter or he's got to be a NASCAR driver. Who's next? Jake is next. Jake, go ahead. Ricky Craven. Go ahead. Hey, Matt, how's it going? Do it good.

So I know that, and deservedly so, I know that a lot of, well, pretty much all of the complaints from the previous callers have been about the offense. So I kind of just want to change it up a little bit, even though the offense was terrible. and this isn't just based on tonight, but this is something I've kind of noticed over the last few seasons. I mean, I love our defense and I love Brad White, but I kind of am starting to think that maybe he is getting overrated and not taking enough heat. I know that they didn't play terrible today,

but I've had season tickets with my dad and my brother for probably 25 or 30 years, and it's become kind of a running joke with my parents and my brother that sometimes the opponent purposely will lose yards on first and second down to get third and long because we cannot stop third and like more than 10. There were, I think, three plays tonight where they were in like third and 14, third and 18. And three times they found a lot of the game. Yeah, that was towards the end of the game.

But a couple of those were, you know, we had guys that would get in the backfield and just couldn't get the quarterback wrapped up, right? And, like, they were right there. And, you know, the one caller mentioned about the fumbles that we didn't recover, but twice we blindside strip sack and aren't able to get those recover. So, yeah, I don't agree with you about the defense because even though they gave up 31, 10 of them are not on them. Okay, there was a pick six, so they had nothing to do with that. And then when we went forward on fourth down, they were already in field goal range, right? So I can't put those 10 on them. So really you're looking at 21, one of which is at the end of the game.

So I just, I can't put this on the defense. I mean, if they score 21, we still got to be able to compete and win that game, and we weren't going to be able to do that. Yeah, I agree with you on that. And I think my point is just like the third and long is just really frustrating to me. And you kind of brought up my next point about the defense. We do seem to get a lot of pressure in the backfield, but because we can't finish a lot of times, it gives the quarterback a lot more time.

And I mean, you can't defend for eight seconds. You know, or a secondary. They can't defend for that long. So we just need another Josh Allen, I guess. Well, we do, but they don't grow up. I appreciate the call. The Josh Allen's are not everywhere. Steve Park.

He was, Steve Park is number, he was the car one, if I remember correctly. He was part of the Dale Earnhardt group along with Martin Truex and some other people. Who's next? Steve. Steve, go ahead, Steve. Hey, Matt. Have you mentioned Fireball Roberts yet? That's, again, no, that's old.

That's before my time. That's kind of in the kale yard. Barrel era. Yeah. I'm trying to stick to like 80s, 90s. That's when I kind of know. Before that, it starts to get a little Travis Kavanaugh-Lis-Myer. That name is just a name.

I don't know. It just kind of makes me grin, Fireball Roberts, you know? Yeah, that's correct. Anything else? Thanks a lot, man. All right, appreciate it. Love the post game. You take out, bye-bye.

We'll do five more and call tonight. Kyle Tucker just put this out. So, you know, we have, we got Wolford, Eric Wolford back. You remember he was there, what was it, three years ago when our offensive line struggled. Then he went to Alabama. This is what Kyle Tucker just tweeted. Alabama had elite offensive lines for years. Wolford went there last year, and they ranked last in the SEC for sacks allowed.

Kentucky didn't hire them away from Alabama. It's not a good sign. I didn't realize Alabama was last in the SEC and sacks allowed. Historically bad offensive. At Alabama, where probably every player on there is playing in the NFL. It's not a very good sign. All right, five more. Who's next?

Marty. Marty. How are you, Marty? Doing well, Matt. How are you? Good. Hey, I just wanted to start this off, just sitting here with my fiancé and everything. Just want to say, we love you, love the show, love listening to you, talk about sports, life, and everything, man.

Just really love the show. Thank you, sir. I appreciate it. No, I just had a couple points. points. A couple people have touched on it and everything. I think the hardest stat for me to look at really is seeing Barion was just, you know, one touch for negative seven yards. You know, I understand Brock's under pressure all game and everything else, but just got to find a way to get the ball into, you know, in my opinion. He's too big a weapon.

He's got to find a way to get the ball. That's it. Yeah. And then the second thing, I got a question for you and everything, then I'll hang up and listen. But do you think we're we're tiptoeing that line with stoops where we was with Calipari where it's like, you know, getting to the point of where are we getting too close to the end and you need to step away? Yeah, I'm not. Let me ask me at the end of the year or closer to the end of the year. I can't say that now. Wait, me, is that the girl from Parks and Rec that's on TV right now talking about the football game?

That's not. No, that's not. What channel are you on? On NBC. Is that the woman from? That's not the woman from parks and. I don't it looks like her I don't that can't be her though I don't know who that is

but anyway back to what I was saying actually I don't remember what I was saying oh a stoops if you I'm not ready to say that yet but let's see how these next couple weeks ago I mean again if you if your stoops like the schedule can't set up any worse you got Georgia coming in next week then you got a game where even if you win it's not going to matter to people

because you beat Ohio like nobody's going to care and then you go to old miss and And then you have a buy. And then you got Mandy. So when is the next game where you're actually going to make a decision? I mean, it's going to be at Florida. Is that the next time we're going to, like, be able to judge where we are? It's just, it's a tough, tough spot to be in, you know, for everybody involved.

Boris said he would only race the road courses, Billy. He wouldn't do the, he didn't like to go in a circle. He liked to go right and look. I understand. Probably got a little too dizzy doing that. That's right. Who's next? That is not Aubrey Plaza.

That is Nicole Auerbach. Oh, I like Nicole Auerbach. I never knew what she looked like. Yeah, she writes for like USA Today or did if that, yeah, she's very nice on Twitter. I don't know that I know her, though. So I didn't know that's what she looked like. Go ahead. Michael.

Michael. Hey, Matt. You know, I'm just riding up here from a very tough game with my dad and my brother. You know, what made it even worse, according to the kids. versus, you know, we were at the game, and it was my dad's birthday on top of it. Happy birthday to your dad. Thanks. But, you know, what I haven't heard he would talk about was the poor halftime timing game

management right there before the half. Yeah, that's awful. Two timeouts. Yeah, we took him in. He felt the need to keep throwing the ball. Like, it was a minute in like 50 seconds. He could have ran at least a couple more plays. I don't know what we were.

doing on that. Like, we didn't convert the third down, so we ended up kicking the field goal. But I don't understand. We wasted a minute of the clock. And I, if we had converted the first down, then I'm not sure. I worry we would have run out of time. I don't know what they were doing right there. But I will say a consistent theme going from year one of stoops, his weakness has always

been time management. Always. Like from moment one has been time management. And I thought about that at the end of the first half. Yeah, to be it to us, that's what we discussed. We think that was probably the deaf nail of trying to make a comeback right there. Selling for a field goal when you had all that time was just too much at that point. I think it really shafts the momentum.

Yeah, I think that's a fair call. Happy birthday to your dad. 859-280-2287. Three more. Jerry Nadu. That's a good one. haven't mentioned. Reed Sorensen. That one's more recent, but also random. Who's next? Rich Bickle. John is next. Not Dick Trickle, Rich Bickle. Go ahead, John. Oh, hey, Matt.

How about Jeremy? I never did Meth Mayfield. Well, I mentioned him, and he's from Owensboro, so be nice. Well, that might have been when I was on hold. I'm sorry. It's okay. Okay. You mentioned just now the clock mad even yeah but if you can't throw you have to run a little bit right yeah but i didn't understand why he didn't use the time out i mean that's what i'm saying it ended up working out because we didn't get the first down but like i just didn't really understand what his thinking was in it but go ahead what i was talking about in in the second quarter when you drop back to pass and you've got five people

in your face, you just run the ball, run the ball. They were more effective doing that, worth it? Oh, for sure, for sure. I don't think that was their game plan, though. I don't think they came in thinking they were going to run the ball because I think they thought they were going to be able to throw on them and then they just couldn't. No, all of that is great.

The thing is, though, the offensive line, I guess I think about from the fact of everybody talks about oh get rid of soups he's not happy and blah blah blah no I don't go there yeah well I'm not there I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm going to finish up real quick

finish up real quick but he's done an incredible thing for this university he's built yeah that's true but you don't you don't keep let me be first of all i don't think you're anywhere near yet saying stoop's needs to go but that is not a reason though to continue with the coach because he's done great like at some point you have to talk about the future it's like when you it's like i said this about cow all year last year you can't sit there and go

you can't let your past decisions on hands decide what you're going to do with this hand So Stoops, they will, they should one day, like, name a road or something around the stadium for Mark Stoops. Like, he deserves it. He is along with Bear Bryant, probably the best coach we've had. With that said, that has nothing to do with right now, right? Like, this is about right now. I don't disagree with that, but I think there's a knee-jerk thing that happens that with Cal, Cal, the Warat is welcome. Is that fair?

Yeah, and I don't think Mark's there yet. I don't. But I think I'm worried about how this year's going to go. Because if you go four and eight or you go three and nine and then you have to go get NIL donations to go hit the portal and go get players, I think it's going to be, that's a hard sell to make if you're coming in and gone three and nine or four and eight. Okay, who you're going to get who's better? It's not about who you're going to get.

I'm not saying we should let him go. I'm talking about the realities, and I appreciate the call, the realities of in the NIL era, you used to be able to run a program by keeping your AD happy, a handful of boosters happy, and then going forward. Now, the reality is you have to get buy-in from the fans because you have to raise money. So how the fans feel probably matters more now than it ever has.

And it's going to be hard if this team goes like it did tonight to get that buy-in going forward. What do we have? Two or three more? Two more. Two more. Who's next? Charlie. Charlie.

Charlie. Charlie. First time, long time. Who are? How do you think we do moving forward? Like, I don't want to sit here and blame all the office alone and everything. But like, I don't know if we've been spoiled by Benny Snail and Rodriguez, third and short, run the ball. you know, automatic first down.

How would just... But go watch our third and shorts. Go watch our third and shorts. He didn't have a chance. I mean, Demi didn't have a chance. He was hit two yards before the line of scrimmage. So, I mean, you think that's just a priority offensive line problem? What do you think it's...

How do you fix it move forward? I don't know. They're going to have to scheme around a bad offensive line, which is not the way Mark Stoops wants to play football, right? He does not... Yeah. I mean, Mike Leach did that. for years, right? Mike Leach just got him a

quarterback, spread it out, and threw it around, and that was what he did. That's not how Mark Stoops wants to play. I don't really think that's how Bush Hamden wants to play either if you go back and look. He ran the ball a lot. So, how do you base an offense on sweeps and runs when your offensive

line is getting blown off the ball every play? I don't know. I don't know either. I mean, I don't know how we move forward after that. I don't either. And I don't know that necessarily they do, and they better figure out something because George is coming next week. Yeah.

After what they're watching today. And it doesn't seem like, you know, it's just kind of like, okay, we just threw over chips in the one hand here with, you know, running all the sweeps and trying to get the third and shorts, first down. It just didn't work out. So, I mean, I don't know how they moved forward after that. Well, I appreciate the call.

Somebody writes here, Fireball Roberts was called, Billy, Fireball Roberts, for a long time. time. Yeah. But then actually died in a car accident due to fire. That's ironic. Yeah. Is that true? Yeah. I know there was a fireball Roberts, but he was called that before the wreck. Died in a fiery crash at Charlotte Motor Speedway. But that's not how he got the name. I don't know when he got the name. Which I would also be a terrible wait reason to give him the name, had that been the case. Yeah. I'm going to assume he got the name before because people would just be cruel if they named him that

afterwards. What's next? You know, Alabama's only up one in the middle of the third quarter right now. Ryan's Alabama minus 31 pick. I question that when he did it for the record. What's it going? And Eastern still hasn't scored. We'll go to Josh. Josh. Go ahead, Josh. Matt, Josh Denny, Monticella, Kentucky. And I preface that by saying, I think you'll recognize who I am and know that I'm not a disclaimer, okay? But where I'm at right now, why does Mitch Barnhart get a pass with everything that's going on? Well, I mean, okay, so let me ask you a question. What would you blame Mitch Barnhart? For tonight, what would you blame Mitch Barnhart for? Well, when Mark Stoves walked or wanted to go to Texas A&M, he should have been pushed just the same way that. Well, they can't

make him, I mean, well, but I mean, let's, to be fair, Mitch didn't give him, Mitch didn't give him anything to stay. Yeah, but Mitch didn't give him anything to stay. I mean, Mitch didn't say, like, it's not like he got a raise to stay. All right. He stayed. Let's look at Mitch Barnhart's record over his career. Okay. Well, he gets a free pass. I disagree with you. And look, if Mitch and I, Mitch, okay, I, Mitch, I, Mitch. I think. I think. I don't think Mitch is, listen, I don't know if Mitch is perfect. Hang on, it's not hard for me. You all, you act like I'm friends with Mitch.

I've spoken one-on-one to Mitch four times in my life, for real. Like, we're not close. I'm close with Vince. Mitch Barnhart and I are not close. We get, and I want to keep Vince, like if whatever happens. But I'm just saying to you, look at Mitch's career. He has been here almost 20 years, maybe more than years. And he has.

And he has, well, I mean, I would argue if you go back and look at our athletic department when he got here, there is a good argument that every single sports program, every single one of them, is better now than it was when he got here. Okay. Like all of them. No, I'm serious. When you say, let me finish. Here's my argument, man.

Let me finish. Please let me turn him down and then I'll let him talk. If you want to say that Mitch might not be the perfect leader for the next 20 years and in eye on all that, that's one case. And I would have that discussion with you. But he hired John Calipari. He hired Nick Mingeyone. He hired Matthew Mitchell, who had a lot of success.

Kenny Brooks looks like a potential great hire. He hired probably the second best football coach we've ever had. He hired maybe the second or third. third best basketball coach. He hired the best baseball coach we ever had. We've won a national championship in volleyball. Every sport has gotten better. Now he's hired Duds. Joker was a Dudd. Gillespie was a Dudd. Kare Elsie didn't work out. But he also has had 20 plus years of hiring. Like you, you act like he's done nothing. Now I'll let you go ahead. No, I don't want you to think that he's done nothing. But here's what I will say.

He was forced to make the basketball hire of Caliperic. That's not true. That was not true. That's the common. That's not true. He hired Gillespie. It is true. That's not true.

I know I literally was good friends with Mike Pratt during that process. And Mitch was not forced to do anything. He wanted to. Mike Pratt and others kind of worked with him, but he wanted to. Now, at the end, I'll also say this. He didn't do. John Caliperi went to him and said, do something to make me stay.

And Mitch said no, and I think that was the right decision. That took guts. And I agree with you too. 1,000% we got out of our lifetime contract, which guess who signed Caliperi up for that? Okay. I don't, I mean, were you going to fire,

who was going to fire John Calgary? Be honest. Who, name me the AD that was going to fire. I'm the biggest cow guy there is. I love cow, right? So don't, like, it's not a, it's, I don't dislike cow. But I'm sitting here and I'm watching and we're talking about all these other sports. It's not the sports that make money.

If you look at the sports that make money. But the sports that make money, he's had. Look at his football. He's hired our third, but he's hired a basketball coach that won a national championship. He parted. He helped part with. tubby at the right time. Billy was a mistake, but he fired him at the right time.

He hired our second best football coach of all time. He's hired our best baseball coach of all time and probably our best women's basketball coach of all time. I just don't know how you can say that's poor. I mean, the women's basketball thing is debatable forever. You think that we've had a better coach than Matthew Mitchell here? I it's really hard to tell I mean the answer is no we don't look at the success we never won anything in women's basketball until Matthew and what what did Matthew Mitchell win he went to

like three elite eights which was three more than we had been to before yeah I what I'm saying is he's behind in the NIL deal he's behind on that alcohol he's behind on everything he is passed by. Okay, that's a different point. That's a different point. We're giving him a free pass, and he is literally. He doesn't get a free pass. He doesn't get a free pass.

He doesn't get a free pass. There are people, Mitch has a million critics. First of all, that's not true. Go online and look at the heat. He gets heat every. I'm not saying the second point you made, which is, is he the best AD for the next generation of college sports, is a fair question. And one that I think is a reason.

debate. But to say what has he done is a ridiculous statement. He needs to retire. I appreciate to call. And with that, Billy. What a way to end it. Well, it's a good debate. There are people who believe that.

But I do think there's a... This was true of John Calipari. This is going to be true of Mark Stubes. And then he thinks it's true of Mitch Barnhart. John Caliperi, if anybody tries to say he wasn't a successful coach here, they are wrong, but it ended when it needed to end. I don't care what happens this year if we don't win another game. Mark Stoops is and was a successful coach at Kentucky, and Mitch Barnhart has been a successful

AD. The question becomes, what is the right thing for the moment? for Mark Stubbs, he's got to get this turned around because this year can't go like tonight went. Thank you folks very much for listening. Prayers to everybody in the London-Livingston area. I'm sure news will continue to develop through the night. Hopefully there's a resolution to it before tomorrow.

Thanks to Billy for sticking around. Tomorrow, NFL all day. Come out to KSpar and watch the games. need your help because I got a feeling, Billy, I got a feeling like tonight wasn't a wild night there. I haven't looked at the numbers, but, you know, it wasn't a very celebratory move. Cats go down, 34 to 6.

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