KSR - KSR Postgame UK FB vs Tennessee 10/26/25

Episode Date: October 26, 2025

Ryan and Billy recap the Cats' 56-34 loss vs Tennessee.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The local total leader's KSR postgame show, Ryan Lemon from Matt Jones tonight, and that was ugly. Tennessee just whoops Kentucky 56 to 34 that was just that was one of those old-fashioned Tennessee buck whoop ones we've seen over the years and it just did the game didn't even feel like it was that close I you know you'd score 34 points Kentucky scoring 34 points everybody should be happy about that you know in this league you're going to win a lot of games you can score 34 points I didn't know we can score more than 13 in this game 13's kind of been the magic number but when you give up 56 points you ain't going to beat anybody Nobody.

And as good as that defense played last week against Texas, which I thought they played really, really well, they played equally as bad tonight against Tennessee. I don't know what happened to our defense. You heard Coach Stoop say four or five times on the postgame show. It's just a bad matchup for us. Well, then fix it. If you know it's a bad matchup for you, go out and fix it.

Get the scheme in place to help you or get the players in place to help you or whatever. But that can't be the excuse that it's just a bad matchup. If you knew it's a bad matchup for us, well then do something about it. Give up 56 points and the whole game turned again and on how many times we say this after a UK football game. The whole game turned at the end of the first half. Kentucky scores to pull within one touchdown, 28 to 21 going into half time and we had the ball to start the second half.

All they had to do is make a stop at the end of the first half. you're down a touchdown in the locker room Coach Stubes goes in there guys we're still in this man we're just down a touchdown we're going to get the ball here to start the second half we're going to punch him we're going to tie this game it's a new game no they let another disastrous

score at the end of the first half then they come out of halftime can't get any points on the board when you get the ball to start the second half and again that Freddie Magid always calls it the middle the middle eights it's almost like the middle fours last two minutes of the first half and the first two minutes of the second half just seems to spell doom time and time again for Kentucky.

And they never recovered after that. I mean, Tennessee, just big play after big play after big play. I don't know what is what was wrong with our defense tonight. I mean, you're missing Sackham Souls and DJ Waller, but my goodness. How can you play so well against tennis? I mean, how bad must Arch Manning be? if he couldn't do anything against his defense, and then look what Tennessee did against his defense tonight.

So that's my big takeaway is that Cutter Bowley had another great game. The guy just continues to grow and get better. What do you have? He had 330 passing yards, five touchdowns, 26 of 35. He had one interception. That was a tip pass that they tipped up in the air and hauled it in for a pick six. The guy is just growing right in front of our eyes. And these young receivers, man,

J.J. Hester and D.J. Miller, where have they been all year? You team to tell me these two guys have been on the sideline now for half the season and not even been in the game hardly. I think DJ got in the last game against Texas a little bit. Hester's been in off and on. But they are obviously, you know, Billy, listen to this. Going into tonight's game, we had only thrown four passing touchdowns all season. Four. We threw five tonight. That's incredible.

Two to Miller, two to Hester, and one to Kendrick Law. That just tells you right there. Cutter Bowley is becoming the man. And they need to do everything they can do, whether whoever the coach is, to keep that kid here in Lexington, because that kid's going to be a star someday. He's going to be an NFL quarterback someday. I mean, I really believe that.

He just gets better and better each time out. Now he's got these young receivers. I hate the fact it looks like maybe Willie Rodriguez is hurt and maybe going to be out, because he's the guy that's really kind of flourished under Cutter Bowley. So if you, but you think about next, you know, next couple of years, Patterson, young guy, got a lot of young guys that can build around. Offense, after all the complaints I've had about the offense and the poor play calls

and the poor execution, all my complaints are with the defense tonight. And I'm sure everybody feels the same way. So if you're leaving the stadium tonight, give us a call, 859-280-2287. You know, I wasn't there, but. We saw pictures of the crowd. A lot of orange, Billy. A lot of orange at KS Bar for the pregame show. A lot of orange in the stadium.

I got a picture from my son who was sitting there. He goes, I thought this was supposed to be a home game. And he sent the pictures of all the orange fans were in there. A lot of empty seats. So as much as we bragged on our fan base and our crowd last week against Texas, a little disappointed tonight. The way he shook out. So I don't know.

I'm just, you know, I'm like a. everybody else, man. You just get tired of getting whipped by Tennessee. You know, it wasn't that long ago where we were competitive with Tennessee. We'd beat up a couple times. But then, you know, you go back in history. It's just we've seen this time and timing in. What was that? It was in, when Stoops first got here, maybe in like 2014, 15, 16, something like that. They put 50 on us, like three years in a row. Well, they put 50 tonight.

If they wanted to, they could have had over 60. They could have scored every single time. Did they punt them? They punted their ball like on their second possession. Yeah, they punted a couple times. So what's your takeaway, Billy? I kind of ran in there for a while. What's your big takeaway? Well, if you're looking for a positive, there were two marriage proposals tonight.

Well. At Commonwealth Stadium. Billy said there were two marriage proposals at Commonwealth at Croger Field. So that's a positive. They both said yes. So two for two there. Okay, no, wait a minute. My son was there.

He wasn't one of them, was he? I don't think so, but my fiancé was there. And that's right. Your fiancee was also there. She wasn't one of them, was she? We got bigger problems if she was, but I don't think so. You know, you mentioned the end of the half, and right before Tennessee marched down the field and scored in like a minute 30. Kentucky went on a six-team play 96-yard drive that took eight and a half minutes.

You make the score 28-21, you think, man, I mean, cutter bowling can keep us in this game. But at times Brad White's defense has held this team together, it was not tonight. They were outmatched. And like you said, it's not a good match up for Kentucky. I don't know. Is that because Tennessee has better players than Kentucky? Is that why it wasn't a good matchup? It's frustrating to see time and time again Tennessee be able to put that many points on the board for a team that prides itself on their defense. I'm glad you brought up that score that made it 28, 21. I wrote a note to myself, 96-yard scoring drive, best drive of the season, question mark, because it took like nine minutes off the clock. They went from almost goal line to go line. And then with the Hester touchdown pass, that may be the best drive of the season.

this season. I thought, man, we're in this. We're down just a touchdown. There's a minute and a half left. We'll get out of here down a touchdown at a half time. But then they scored just right before the half. So it went 75 yards in like the blink of an eye. All those explosive plays, Billy, I mean, every time he turned around, I think I heard Jeff Piccaro on the post game show, Aguilar was six of six passing of over 20 yards or more. Just didn't miss. Every time they went deep, they got it. Yeah, the corners really struggled today. Kentucky just simply couldn't finish. They couldn't finish their drives, even coming out of half time.

They got to midfield about to like the 39-yard line and then a couple penalties backed them up. They had to punt and then Tennessee scores the next drive. You cannot have that many penalties and drive-killing things if you want to compete in this conference. Somebody needs to look it up, and I'm sure they will. How many points Kentucky has given up in the last two minutes of the first half and how many times they have failed to score coming out of the halftime when they have the ball to start to say? can happen. It just never happens. I just don't understand

how that can be such a recurring thing. And if we're going to be honest, that falls on the coaches. Game prep, preparation, execution, that falls on the coaching staff. So whether it's a bad matchup or not, you've got to find a way

to stop things like that that keep happening over and over and over. And we don't see DJ Miller until middle of the year. We don't see JJ Hester make these plays till middle of the year. I mean, Calzada starts over Bowley to start the year. It's just, it stinks that it's taken till this late in the year for to see these young guys play so well. Yeah, the receiver room has been the biggest puzzle on offense. You know, they started with

Macklin and Fred Ferrier and Kendrick Law was going to be the three main guys. Well, Macklin's caught like four or five catches all year, maybe more than that, not sure, but he hasn't got a touchdown. Kendrick Law scored his second touchdown the night. Fred Ferrier has been pretty much non-existent. And then these young guys come in. Remember Cam Miller, two games ago, had a couple big plays. And then DJ Miller last game had some big play.

The two, I don't know, their last name's Miller, and I think they both should be on the field at the same time, but Hester definitely should be out there. Kendrick Law had the big play tonight, the big explosive play, went 70 yards. So, I don't know. I don't know.

Crazy fumble in the first quarter. That was like what you see at the, my kid's old, fifth and sixth grade games with a ball somebody falls on the ball and it squirts out and somebody falls on the ball and it squirts out again somebody falls on the ball and it squirts out again that was actually kind of funny i think yeah the carnival music in the background yeah and and then that led to tendency going up 28 to seven you thought it could have been a terrible night but game over yeah that could i thought it was going to be game over but they scored uh the kinnick

scored on the touchdown the dj miller scored cut it to one score could have been one score going into the locker room at halftime, and they just never recovered after that. So, it's called me one of those nights. It was ugly. I mean, I had a friend of mine. He always used to call me after these games. He'd say, pitiful, pitiful, pitiful, pitiful. There is no, I expect I'd get that call from him tonight.

So 859-2-2-287. We'll take our first break. Come back. We'll load up the phone line. Give you a chance to talk. It's your turn. We'll be right back. This is the local Toyota Deaders, KSR Post-Game Show.

All right, welcome back. This is the local Toyota-leaders' KSR post-game show. Ryan and Billy, staying up late tonight. We appreciate everybody who is tuned in if you're stuck in traffic trying to get home or you're trying to repair the glass that, broken glass that you threw up against the wall when Tennessee scored again tonight. Give us a call. 859-280-2287.

Billy and I set our piece. Time for you guys, the fans, kind of take over. We want to hear from you. So, Billy, who we got first? Yeah, let's start with Nick. Nick, go ahead, Nick. Hey, you know, look, I always appreciate what Mark Stewart has done. for Kentucky football, all right?

But now our program has gotten to the gutter. For what the Kentucky taxpayers, donors, and the fans are putting in, we're not getting the return we deserve. All the fans can do is show up and hope for the best. When I see Florida, Vandy, Louisville, and Tennessee Tech, who's 8-0 right now, I can seriously see us going 2 in 10.

You can tell the fans are done when the fans start emptying out before the second quarter. Tonight felt like Joker Phillips. Mark Seup's got to go if he wants. want to change. If I were in AD, I'd have John Summer on the plane right now. Nick, we appreciate the phone call. Billy, you could hear the pain in his voice. And I think

a lot of fans are that way. You can just hear it in his voice. We love this program. We loved Mark Stoops. But this is not acceptable. Yeah, maybe one of those fans that broke that glass on the wall at some point during the game. And he's right. Tennessee Tech is now 8-0. Everybody counts that up as a win. Look out.

And Auburn just won at Arkansas today. Guess where we're going next week at Auburn. All right, who's next, Billy? Richard is next. Richard, go ahead, Richard. Hey, guys. So, you know, I was listening to Mark Stoops after on Tom Leach, and I hate how, you know, he sounds so upset.

I feel like I'm overly sympathetic, but my conclusion about this season, that last season should have been when we fired him. like the buyout we could have gotten that money but we were told you know they were going to change everything that caused all the problems last year discipline the culture the play calling we gave bush hamden the excuse that he didn't get his pick of quarterback well he got his pick of a quarterback and wasted four million dollars on him when we had cutter boley already and absolutely did not scheme to his strength we don't have any play action rollouts really that

make make, that take advantage of his legs. But I think that, you know, nothing changes when nothing changes and nothing changed this year. They were quiet. They probably, I mean, and we should, like now it's a terrible time to hire a coach. Last year would have been perfect. And I thought that we should have gotten rid of him last year. I'm sure there are hundreds of thousands of others who feel exactly the same way. And now we just have to feel like, yeah, we were right. But, you know, that does absolutely no good at all. I don't mind losing a tennis. We're going to lose to Tennessee, but I just can't stand. Like the game being this miserable.

I mean, I grew up going to Joker Phillips game. At least the tailgating back then was fun. We weren't getting priced out. Tents weren't going to banks who were having employee hospitality or whatever. We could actually have fun in the tailgates and at the games. But anyways, I'm going to hang up. Love you guys. Thanks for doing this tonight.

Go big blue. Go cats. Go Kentucky football. Appreciate it, Richard. Billy, true words, never spoken. Nothing happens when nothing happens. Nothing changes when nothing changes. Yeah, so when does something change, right?

I think they're going to get to a point where it's going to have to happen, but the caller brought up a great point. This is a horrible time to probably try to make a coaching change with all these other job openings that are already open and are going to come open yet, I think. The things would have, if Stoops would have just taken that job at Texas, and him. We would still love the guy. We would still praise him. He did

wonderful things here. And then we wouldn't have had the disappointing season last year. We wouldn't have this disappointing season this year. Be in the middle of this or we're going to buy him out. I'll be going to fire him with all this controversy that's going on. I don't know, man. I just don't think Barnhart's the type of guy

that's going to pull the trigger right now. I think he's still going to play it out. You know, a lot of people still think they can beat Auburn at Auburn. Florida's limping in here in a couple weeks. That could be a win right there. So Barhart's going to be behind again because he was behind on N. I.L. Right?

Yeah. And now we're in a changing landscape of college sports and Kentucky has the longest tenured coach in the SEC. I mean, just because it's not going well right now doesn't mean there weren't good times and things that for Kentucky fans to love Mark Stoops. But, you know, there is a lot of truth in that college point of nothing's going to change until something changes. Nothing changes.

when nothing changes, Billy. All right, who's next? Steve. Steve, go ahead, Steve. Hey, guys. Once again, another powerful point about a Brad White defense that just has no consistency whatsoever.

But the big point is, and I think this conversation is going to start happening, and it should be happening quick, who are we going to keep? Stoops or Bowley? Because the big boys are going to be coming, and they're not just going to be offering money, they're going to be offering chances at a national title and maybe even a

highman in a year or two because the kid's that talented but he's not going to stick around with stoop's around great point Steve and not just him with all these other young guys I'm talking about you don't think other schools are going to come after cutter boley after with everything they've got we might to match them money wise but we're not going to match them with opportunity they're going to come after Willie Rodriguez Hartley Gilmore, Jason Patterson, all these guys. I mean, they're going to come after these guys. These guys are some talented guys.

All right, I appreciate the phone call, but he's right. You've got to think about the future of the program, and our future right now kind of relies on the shoulders of Cutter Bowley. Not necessarily our head coach right now. At this moment right now, I think most people would want to keep Cutter more than anybody else. Well, yeah, yeah. Including your head coach. Including your offensive coordinator.

Quarterback's most important position. No doubt. That second touchdown pass he threw to Miller for 56 yards was beautiful. I mean, the guy caught it in stride, easy touchdown. You know, it is going to be. I hope they can keep him because whatever a new coach comes in, he's got to be really optimistic about that if Cutter stays. If there is a new coach, that is his number one priority.

Keep that kid here in Lexington. keep him as our quarterback. I totally agree with that. Now, the other thing that Steve said, though, was about Brad White's defense. We had a discussion this past week where there were some people, again, I think I got blamed for being the person.

Some people would like to see Brad White potentially be the next head coach. Boy, after tonight, I don't know. I think that Brad White fan club may have lost a few members tonight because that defense was like Swiss cheese. There were just a lot of holes in it tonight, Billy. Yeah, and I don't know if it makes a lot of sense to pay $38 million to buy out Stoops

and then retain the defensive coordinator either. Yeah. You kind of want to start over a little bit, but we'll see. All right, let's get another phone call. Who we got? Pete. Pete, go ahead, Pete. Hey, Ron.

Hey, Billy. Just, yeah, I mean, I'm 28 years old, you know, like, I appreciate what Stoops has done, but, like, to see, like, we are definitively the worst team in the SEC. and, you know, we have no hope going forward. I just, I feel like there's just nothing to look forward to next year. So, like, there's no sense in keeping him. I mean, you know, cutter bowling looks great. I would love for him to come back.

But, like, there's just no, you know, forward momentum to come back. I mean, Mississippi State scored, what, 38 points, right, against Texas, I think. And, like, you know, that looks horrible for us. And, like, it's just, when was the last time that, you know, the last team in the conference keeps their coach? And I just don't think that there's any hope going forward. It's just, it's a lost cause, in my opinion. Pete, we appreciate it. You know, yeah, Mississippi State just lit up the scoreboard against Texas,

a team that we only scored one touchdown against last week. But like I said earlier, how bad was Arch Manning be if he couldn't move the football against our defense last night? I mean, our defense looked really, really good last week when we played Texas. And if you saw the Texas Mississippi State game, the Texas punt returner, Nibbler, Niblet, he ran another one back for a touchdown. Why punt? Why are teams punt into that guy? He ran one back against Oklahoma.

He almost ran two back against us, and he ran one back against Mississippi State today. Dudes like Derek Abney 2.0. All right. Let's take another phone call. Who we got? Cody. Cody. Go ahead, Cody.

Hey, Ryan. I'll tell you why, this is just really makes me sad because I've always liked Mark Stoops, and I think he was the right coach at the right time for Kentucky, especially to kind of counteract the energy that Cal had. I mean, Stoops was always blue collar and kind of about the people and then, you know, hard-nosed and went out there and turned the program around. But I think tonight was pretty much the nail in the coffin for his tenure, unfortunately. I mean, Bush-Hamden finally had a somewhat decent game, but it just kind of proved that he's really been malpractice and how he's been managing the team all year. You look at the athletes we got and how good they played tonight on offense on some of the big plays. We should be doing that all year long.

I've always kind of thought Brad White was fools gold because I want to, I'm sure Billy's too busy to look at it, but I bet if he went back and tried to tally up what he's given up to Tennessee in the last three years, I bet it'd be over 100 points we've given to Tennessee in three seasons and I mean just the totality of the circumstances I mean it's got to tell you I look the scores up I've got it right here beat us tonight 56 34 last year year was 28 to 18 year before that was 33 to 27 year before that 44 to 6 and in 2021 was 45 to 42 so they've scored over 40 points three of the last five years it's 206 my goodness

and people want to talk like that guy's going to be a head coach somewhere. I mean, if you can't figure out a team in four seasons to not give them 200 points, you shouldn't be head coach in a peewee league if you ask me. So that's just my opinion. But the question I want to ask you, that was granted, after the last two weeks and the way Auburn and Florida is playing and then whoever knows with Louisville, what does happen if we end up winning five or six games? what do you think Mark Stoops or Mitch Barnhart would actually do now?

I mean, it's going to be, that would leave us with a pretty odd situation because, yeah, maybe Auburn beat Florida, but neither one of them is really that good. So what do you think? I'll hang up and listen. Well, Cody, we, you know, we've had that question on KSR the last week or so. You know, if they finish five and seven, but that includes, that's going to mean you beat somebody you weren't supposed to. If you think Florida and Auburn are now winnable games, that gets you four, ten, ten,

to see Tech who's undefeated as five, or is Louisville going to be that win? I don't know. I think, if you'd ask me just a guess, if this team finished five and seven, I think Barnhart would keep Stoops. Stoops would have to leave on his own. I don't think Barnett would want to pay that buyout

after a five and seven season. That's just me. Billy, what's your opinion on it? I think if they get to five, they'll keep stoops. I do too. The progression of cutter, you'll say that you've won at least two decent games. if you beat Tennessee Tech and then two of those other three.

And the relationship Mitch has with Stoops, I think he just keeps him. 38's a lot. Yep. Before we go to break, I'll read this tweet I got from Zach. He goes, uh, Ryan, I don't think anyone was stuck in traffic after that one. I think there was more traffic leaving a sixth grade playoff game between Harlan County and Betsy Lane today by the time that game was over. That's true. People emptied out.

Even the Tennessee fans were leaving early after that game tonight. So, Vols win it, 56, 34. It was ugly. U-G-L-Y, that ain't no alibi. You're ugly. You're ugly. We're right back. This is Connecticut Sports Radio.

Welcome back. The local total ears KSR post-game show. Tennessee just whoops the snot out of Kentucky tonight, 56 to 34. I mean, I let myself believe it, Billy. When they pulled within 28, 21, I thought, man, we're going to go in the locker room down a hat, only a touchdown after the disaster, the start. the game that are big explosive touchdown and then the tip pick six

and then after that I just like oh my goodness what happened is this it happened so fast it seemed like the knockout punch we talked about the crowd leaving my buddy Phil just sent me a picture of the longship club which is you know where they have the the kingland room I think they call it

yeah 12 minutes left in the game he says when he took this picture and it's deserted I mean there's like eight people there That is it. You got to give them a reason to stick around. And that's what gets fired as coaches. That's what gets coaches fired faster than anything is empty seats. No ticket sales.

That's what happened to Joker, that last game against Vanderbilt. So which Vanderbilt, they won again today. So they're now what, seven and one? Look out. Vanderbilt Commodores. Used to be an automatic win. We won last time we went to Vanderbilt, though, two years ago. Can we have a little magic this year?

Do you see the end of that? game. I did see the end of it. Missouri, Hail Mary to the one yard line. Yeah. Dude, dude caught the ball, but we wasn't in the end zone. Yeah, good finish. 859, 280, 2, 287. Who we got next, Billy? Jerry is next. Jerry. Go ahead, Jerry. Jerry. Jerry. I heard him. Okay, I'm sorry. Look, I had this coordinator, man. It's just completely horrible, man. I set you up watch, we cut the lead down to 28, 21. Tennessee's got the ball, and he's trying to rush the quarterback with three-down linemen. There's no way in God's real far that you can ever complete put the ball,

rush the quarterback with three-down linemen against Tennessee. Appreciate, Jerry. Yeah, I think there's going to be a lot of people questioning a lot of things that that defense did tonight because Tennessee did whatever they want, whenever they wanted, explosive play after explosive play. when we came out a half time and didn't get a we got way out one first down then we punted they ran like one play and went like 70 yards again for a touchdown it was just amazing so so i don't know that just seems to be brad white's philosophy the three down linemen up front they don't put a lot of pressure on the quarterback and they just aguilar just sat back there and

picked us apart tonight who we got next i remember uh i didn't get the name right on the pregame i'm not sure this person's name either i think it's kettle Kettle. Is this the right name? Is this kettle? Hello. Yeah, who is this? Hey, this is Kettle.

Go ahead, Kettle. We were waiting on you. Hey, guys. I mean, I don't think it takes a rock as I know this, but this is just an absolute mess. Season taking hold of here. You go into the, when you tailgate, there's, there's no energy. There's, everything's just flat. And you get into the stadium, everything is just flat.

And then you see the product on the field. Last week against Texas, yeah, there was a little bit of emotion there. But, you know, we're just not getting the results that we need. And then that builds into this week, and we get our absolute teeth kicked in. And this is just an absolute wreck. Don't know where we go from here. Just all around disappointment. Thoughts.

Kettle, appreciate the phone call. Yeah, we knew. during the pregame show at KS Bar and Grill when maybe 30% 40% of the restaurant were in orange. There was no buzz, no energy like there usually is in our pregame shows. You could kind of get the feeling. Then we had these reports that tailgating lots were empty. People weren't there tailgating like they always are. I mean, last week was homecoming and parents' weekend.

Maybe that added to a lot of the people who came to the game. This weekend, it's still, it's Tennessee. your rival and the buzz and the energy, I think Billy just was not there from our crowd tonight. Nope. No, I'm a little worried about the last home games too, you know. No doubt. I tell you what I hate too is hearing the Kentucky, the Tennessee band play Rocky Top in our

stadium over and over and over. I know it may be bad form to try to outplay or the opponent's band, but. But when they fire up Rocky Top, why isn't our band firing up something to try to drown them out a little bit? I mean, I heard Rocky Top. Why not? I'm not going to sit there and let them play Rocky Top whenever they want all the time. I just hate that. I don't know.

It's always bothered me. I don't know. Okay. Who's next? Who we got? Edward. Edward. Go ahead, Edward.

Hey, Ryan. I'm a longtime fan. And I had a memory pop up on my phone today from 2014. It was Stoops, Troops. Why not? The big banner furled out with the fans. Oh, yeah. I mean, this was terrible.

Like you said, I heard Rocky Top. They were chanting Rocky Top all around me, and I stayed till the bitter end. It was terrible. That's awful. Yeah, that should never happen on your home field. No doubt about it. I hate that, too, Edward. Yes.

And I hate to say it, but Stooping. has got to go. All right, we appreciate it. Well, you know, the Stoops has got to go. Argument is going to get louder and stronger as the season progresses. But as of after a game like tonight, people are beating their drums. I mean, my whole timeline is filled with anti-Marx Stoops and negative comments about our program. Hard to argue against it right now when you're sitting here with two wins and getting your teeth kicked.

in. You know, we thought we had a, we thought we did something last week against a pretty good Texas team. Well, I don't think they're really that good at all. They kind of lucked out today against Mississippi State, but I don't know, man. That game down in Auburn now scares me next weekend. Auburn seems to kind of found themselves a little bit.

They just won at Arkansas. Now we've got to go down to their place. Kind of just scares me a little bit. There's no way they're going to win at Vanderbilt on Diego Pavia's Senior Day down there. So now you're looking what? Florida at home, Louisville, the road, Tennessee Tech. That gets you to five.

That gets you to five. There we go. All right. Let's take another phone call. Who we got? Jordan. Jordan. Go ahead, Jordan.

What's up, Ryan Lemon? First off, I want to say, I, for one, I'm happy. You're on the post game show. Just want to let you know that. Well, thank you, Jordan. Got a lot pushback tonight on that, but thank you. Yeah, I've seen the tweet. I've seen the tweet disrespectful.

Anyways, second, bring on John Summerall, man. Let's get it going. Thank you for the call. Well, that's going to be the argument, but the thing is, there's some other jobs that are going to be maybe more attractive to John Somerall than Kentucky. You know, John Summall is from Alabama. He coached at Troy, Alabama. The Auburn job isn't going to come open? I'm sure if it does, they're going to go after him.

I'm sure teams are already talking to John Sumerall or talking to his agent, if nothing else. So he may be at the top of the ladder of some of these coaching candidates that are other schools going to be looking at right now. obviously he played here obviously he coached here obviously I think most fans would love to have him here but the John Summerall lottery maybe a tough one to win this this go around but not mistaken so again another phone call who we got Billy Nate Nate go ahead Nate yeah I much prefer Will Stein bring bring the Kentucky kid home and in that last that previous call of the Why not? I mean, Jimmy Sexton is going to be sitting there talking to Mitch tonight saying,

why not pay me my $38 million. But let me run this by you, Ryan, and Billy, and maybe get some comments from you. Okay, say Mitch is too scared to fire him right after the game. You can't do that to the all-time winning his coach. But we're getting to a point where this last half of the season, this is what people are going to remember Mark Stutz for for the next couple of years until this goes over. So why not work a deal without them and give them this Twilight tour? Fans will show up.

Announce it on Monday. Hey, this will be Stoops last season. Please come out and support the all-time winning his coach and let him go out with fanfare in appreciation from the fans rather than us getting blown out by 60 points by Vanderbilt to end the season. But I'll let you all answer that after a couple. Nate brings up some great points. I mean, I really like Mark Stoops.

I'm so happy he was our coach. things here I never thought could be done here. And Billy, a part of me kind of hate the way this is coming to an end. It's so eerily familiar with what happened with Caliperi. We loved him. He was doing great things here. He turned us, you know,

he turned our program around, got us back where we were superstars again. And then it just kind of faded the last couple of years, and he left kind of with his head down. Man, I kind of feel the same thing that's happening with Mark Stoops. I love Mark Sto. We were just talking about building a statue for the man, just a season or two.

ago. And now he's going to maybe you have to walk out these head down. The post game show, he sounds defeated. He sounds beat up. And I don't want that for him.

You know what I mean? Yeah, and he's started to read the room and, you know, recognize that he's put the program in a place that fans aren't happy about, and he understands that. In a perfect world, I'd love for that to be announced

and for us to give him his flowers over the final few games. But, I mean, that's the argument of why Stoop should negotiate a lower buyout or at least take the deal because the perception is that you're losing a lot of fans in these final years. Yeah. I truly believe if he did that, if he negotiated a less of a buyout, our fan base would still love the guy and worship the guy.

I think if he fell on the sword, so to speak, for our program that he helped build, we would love him like we do Rich Brooks. I really do. Well, I mean, time heals all. Rick Patino came back to Rupp. Very true. Even if it does end two and ten, there's going to be a time where they honor Stoops and welcome him back. But it's, you know, it's just tough in college sports today. You need to get a jump on the next transfer class.

And, you know, it feels like we're one day behind every day. Stoops is still there. You're right, because the day after that last game of the season, that transfer portal, everybody's going to be jockeying for position, trying to get the best deal they possibly can. and if we have no idea what our coaching situation is at that time, you're right. It puts us behind. And if you keep Stoops, you're probably going to have to overhaul the staff, right? Yeah, for sure.

You can't keep a lot of the people that you have if you're going to say you're going to change things, and that puts you behind the eight ball again. Well, all the pressure is no longer on Mark Stoops. I think all the pressure is now on Mitch Barnhart, because now this is going to have to be his decision. He's got to make the decision what's he going to do with his football program, and that may end up being Mitch Barnhart's legacy. This may be his last hire before he goes rides off to the sunset.

Summer sunset. Summer set. It's the sunset and Somerset may decide how we view him as well. All right, we got one final break. We'll take our final segment. Calls, line them up. 859-2-2-2-8. We had some really good phone calls.

I knew we were going to get this tonight. That's what this show is all about, man. It's for fans who kind of voice their lot of times are joy. A lot of times they're frustration. Tonight we're hearing a lot of frustration and sadness, and I completely understand. We'll be right back. Local Toyota leaders, KSR Postgame Show. Welcome back, final segment, local total leaders, KSR postgame show.

A lot of people give him Matt a hard time for not doing this postgame show, but this was decided long before the game tonight. You know, the man does deserve some time off, give him a break. And people don't understand, I've done a lot of postgame shows like this. They acted like he was doing me a disservice by having to do this. this. Man, I did the Gardner Webb postgame show back in the day. I did the Evansville post game show.

I think I did St. Peters, if I'm not mistaken. I've done some really bad post game shows. No, St. Peters was a tournament game. Matt was for that one, right? No, it was the game they got beaten the United Team. Matt was at the game in Pittsburgh. Who did they go to be by Robert Morris?

That's what it was. That was the one I did. Is that the worst one? The Evansville one may have been the worst one. Really? That was really bad. Gardner Webb was bad. I've had some bad football ones, too.

So, yeah, give, give, cut back some slack, man. The dude doesn't have to work 24 hours all day, all day, every day, does he? So I do want to read this text I got from someone called Marissa. Uh-oh. Did you know that was the most points Tennessee put on us since 2000, 25 years until we've been torched like that, and she is 100% right. And I wanted to read you the scores during this time frame. Starting in 1996, Billy.

How old were you in 96? One. You were one year old. Yep. I was working at Channel 18. Tennessee scored 56 points. The next year they scored 59. Next year, 59.

Next year, 56. Next year, 59. One, two, three, four, five years in a row. They scored over 50 points against us. Can you believe that? That is incredible. Unbelievable. That's why I, that's why I,

some of us old-timers, this felt like an old-time Tennessee butt-wopin that they just put on us, scoring 56 points like that, and could have easily scored over 60. Could have easily had over 60. We were looking at the worst loss in the Stoops era. I think Alabama put 63 up on Kentucky in 2020. Yeah, that sounds right. Yeah, the COVID year. Yeah.

So, all right, we've got our final six callers, and we hope we got some good ones. So who we got, Billy? Henry. Henry, go ahead, Henry. Hey, Ryan. All the callers have hit on everything, so I'm going to be a little more lighthearted. Got a couple points. All right. One of the more Kentucky, but not Kentucky-sounding stats I've ever heard, almost 900 total yards in these last two games and lost both of them and only had 13 points in one of those.

Secondly, I love the blue-white chant. I think it's the loudest our stadium gets, but they changed it tonight. instead of doing the directional like they usually do, they just flashed it up on the screen and nothing at all got started, which did not help the environment at all. Yeah, usually on the Jumbotron, they had the arrow to one side of the field blue,

then the arrow to the other side of the field white, so I see tonight they didn't do the arrows. They just put blue-white and wanted everybody to join in together. Yeah, and absolutely nothing got started up from that. All right, what's your final point? I'm sitting here watching Utah beat Colorado 46-0-0-0 in a conference game. South Carolina and Shane Beamer lost in heartbreaking fashion earlier. Louisville got smacked yesterday, so as a fan basically could be in a worst mental state.

Oh, finally, we wore all black today against the rival, and there was absolutely no attempt to get the fans to wear black today. The football media team, social team has had absolutely died. fumbled the bag this year with getting the fans into it, with all the basketball team has done in such little time that's happened this season, they're being embarrassed right now. Appreciate it, Henry. Yeah, we talked about that on the pregame show that the football team wore the all-black

unies, including the black mat helmet. Why was not their concerted effort to have it as a blackout? Why didn't they kind of get the word out earlier in the week? like, hey, we're going to wear black unies, so you guys, everybody come to the game to play Tennessee and everybody wear black. Nothing. Not one. And somebody was, like my son was at the game, said, man, that the students showed up. The student's body was that they were there.

They showed up. But wouldn't have been cool, Billy, if they had all been wearing black kind of in that end zone? That kind of been a maybe been a cool look. Yeah. On the pregame, we were talking about it, I think the students got told to wear blue. seemed like a missed opportunity. Drop the ball somewhere. All right, take another one.

Who we got? Steve. Steve, go ahead, Steve. Hello, Mr. Lemon, big fan. My brother and I showed up to one of your postgames at the Waffle House one time. Had a great time. Nice. Yes, and I will do that again. I promise you at the postgame show from the Georgetown Road Waffle House.

Yes, sir. We all have fun. I'd just like to point out that I can't figure any way, except for Miss Barnhart's legacy has to be mishandling of NIL combined with the CalPerry Contra's Forever contract, combined with Stoops' contract that is worth more when you combine the yearly salary and the payout is worth more than Hyple, Dirkowitz, and Lane Kiffin's contract currently. I mean, he lucked in to Mark Pope coming in because of his connection with the, you know,

and being a former player. But other than that, what has Barnhart done in the last five years? You just mentioned the social media team cannot coordinate with the fans to say, hey, we're wearing black. I mean, at what point, I mean, Barthard, I understand that he runs the SEC just because he's been there as long as he has to have influence for Kentucky. But what is his legacy at this point that he is not almost undone? Steve, we appreciate it.

Yeah, it's another topic we've discussed on KSR, where if we go back to that time, when Barnhart and Stoop's reached this contract agreement, they were 5-0. They had just beat Florida at home, which, by the way, was our last SEC home win. They beat Florida at Krogerfield. They didn't announce it yet,

but they made this big, agreed to this terms of this contract. At that time, I felt like if we go back to that time, we all felt like we got the greatest coach in the history of the college football. He is out. We've got to keep him here. We're afraid he's going to go to bigger jobs. Oh, my goodness. What happens if Ohio State comes open?

They're going to go after Mark Stoops because he's from Ohio. You know, Stoops needed to get him under contract, but it's the construction of the contract, that buyout that I think is going to, like you said, maybe tarnish Barnhart's legacy. That's where, you know, Stoops has an agent that worked a little magic for him and got that done, but same thing on the Caliperi contract. John Tyson and Tyson Food saved us because that could have been another messy deal. We have to pay that buyout with Calipery.

But again, we go back to when Calipery got that contract deal from Barnhart. That's when Calipary was talking to UCLA. You couldn't let John Calipari leave Kentucky to go to UCLA so they get him under a new contract. But this, that huge buyout. Again, the construction of the contract is what gets so much criticism. but Tyson Foods and Arkansas saved us have to pay that one. I don't think anybody's going to step in here at the last minute and try to save us with Mark Stoops now.

I don't know what team would want to hire him right now that he would want to go to. I know his name was connected to Virginia Tech. Well, he may be a good candidate for them. If all the other good candidates are long gone by the time, they get around in the pecking order to find somebody. So I don't know. Barnard had to get these guys under contract.

just the construction of the contract, these buyouts that really going to be criticized, and deservedly so, I feel like. Who's next, Billy? John. John. John, go ahead, John. I'm just thinking, you remember whenever we had to pick aside between pretty much Mark Stoops or Calipari, are we a football school or are we a basketball school?

Oh, yeah, I definitely. And we all pretty much backed Mark Stoops, and then we backed Mark Stoops, and this is what we get. Well, on the other side of the hand, we just beat number one. Purdue last night. Are we a basketball school or are we a football school? We want to support the football team, but, you know, when you can, it's hard, it's hard to whenever you come out here and stink it up, like how many SEC wins at home that we want.

Like, sure, we can beat Toledo, we can beat eastern Michigan at home, but it's hard to get fired up for an SEC game at home when we're playing someone decent. Sure, Texas, we go to overtime against Texas. Whoop-de-whoop. Are we at football school or are we a basketball school? We're all in on basketball, baby. We are all in on basketball. Was Caliperi right or was Caliperi wrong?

We pushed him out. It is what it is. I say we go get Mike Gundy. I say we go get Mike Gundy. Thank you, Stoop. Thank you, Stoops. Thank you, Stoops, for everything you've done. But let's go get Mike Gundy.

Let's go have fun. Go play some football. and then we're going to win number nine in basketball. Who cares? Whatever happens happens, let's go win our ninth championship in basketball. And let's hire Mike Gundy. Let's go have some fun. Come on.

All right, John. We appreciate it. I appreciate that very much. Yeah. That comment was created some riff between over there in UK, between Calipari and Stoops. Deep down, I think we all know Kentucky, known for basketball. They win national championships in basketball. They've not even been to a conference championship in football,

but it's not something that the head coach would probably have said. Just bad form, I think, on Cal's part to say that. We can think it as fans. We can believe it as fans. But I think as the head coach of the basketball team, you don't need to be saying that, kind of rubbing your nose of all the other sports, rubbing their nose in it a little bit.

You know what I mean, Billy? Yeah. He said that we pushed Cal out. I'd say him losing to Oakland and St. Peter's and talking down to the fan base. and not adapting with the game and not starting Reed Shepard. It would be some of the other things that pushed him out. Yeah, we didn't push him out.

He opted to go to Arkansas. Yeah, he's the one that had the conversation. That's right. That's exactly right. All right, who's next? Just two more left. Two more. Bullet County Bill.

Bullet County Bill. All right, here you, Bullitt County Bill. Hey, guys. Thanks for staying up with us tonight. Ultimately, I do not want this fan base to lose a pre-year-old. for what Mark Stoops has accomplished here at the University of Kentucky. But inevitably, in my heart of hearts, I believe it is time to make a change. And that is a very difficult thing to say.

But, you know, it's time to move on. And when we think about the fan base and where we're at and, you know, how we process all these things, the Tennessee game is one of the biggest games of the year and we we we need to hear from matt right now and matt needs to be on the post game show i firmly believe that appreciate you guys being with us tonight take care well thank you bullet county bill you know what's matt on here but he appreciates us being here he should be on here we got to give cut matt some slack man they do does need a day off we'll i mean we're it's one 30 in the morning right now for crying out loud

It's okay. He's got shows all day tomorrow also. So it's okay if he wants to step out and pass it off to somebody. That is content. Go ahead. I was going to say, do you want to do the postgame show for me next week? What day is it? I mean, Saturday. Oh, you're doing the Saturday football post game show. Yeah.

Well, I'm not doing the post. I mean, I run the post game. So would you like to come run it for me so I can have a night off? Well, I don't know how. But I would for you, Billy. Drew's going to do the post-game show for the Georgetown basketball game Thursday night, right? I haven't heard that, but that's good. That's good to know.

This stuff was already planned weeks ago. What if Kentucky would have won tonight? Then I get to do that post-game show. It was already decided. So that is Tennessee's one, two, three, four, five, six win in a row over Kentucky. Of course, we had that stretch where they won like 25 or 26 games in a row. But it just seems like they're whooping us again. It just seems like, you know, they're rubbing our nose in it again, and that's what I don't like.

All right, let's get our final caller. Maybe our final caller. If it's a good one, who we got? Darrell. Darrell. What up, Darrell? This will be a good one. What's up, buddy?

What up, Darrell? Not much. Yeah, I got a couple things real quick here for you. You know, it was eight to ten years ago. if you remember me and chester went to war on whether stoop should be fired or not that was that was a good good material for ksr yeah yeah that was a you know i was premature you know on the on wanting the firing of stoops we went on to have some great years and listen i'm sure just the way chester's going to call in and he's going to try to pump fruit loops up our backside and say everybody's farting rainbows here in lexton but that's just not the way it is it's a

mess here. And, you know, today I come up with one of the top quarterback prospects in southern West Virginia, and I was telling him about, you know, all these great, this great atmosphere you'll see, you know, from the get-go, you know, it's been all season. The atmosphere is horrible. This is hard-earned money that people pays to come in there. And was you there when they sung my old Kentucky home? I mean, it was like a funeral, old regular Baptist funeral. You know, it was sad the whole situation, and I left halfway through the third period, but, you know, halfway through the third period, Groves Street played one time. I mean, what the hell is going on in the Lexington, Ryan?

Well, I wish I had some good answers for you. It just seems like, like we said, even on the pregame show, Darrell, at the KS Bar, there was just no buzz or energy. Like people were already knew what was coming. They were waiting for that other shoe to drop. And it dropped right at the end of the first half, I think, when they scored that touchdown right before halftime. Yeah, I agree.

It was the turnover there in the first half. I mean, you know, that really got things off. Then we fought back. And, you know, I looked at the kid that we come up with. And I told him, I said, watch this right here. I said, we got within a touchdown. We had a minute 40 on the clock. I said, I promise you.

I said, Tennessee will go down and score. I said stoop is notorious for handling the last two minutes to the first half, horrible. And there they go and they score. I wish a lot of Wildcat fans are going to start going to rough instead of Crogerfield. And, you know, I'll tell you, if you want to make a lot of money, bring back the Team Daryl and Team Chester shirts. I promise you're going to sell a lot of them. Darrell, we appreciate it, buddy.

Good one day at the end on right there. Appreciate the phone call. You know, you could hear just the pain in a lot of these callers voices. You can hear the pain in Daryl's voice. Daryl's a huge Kentucky fan. You know, I'm a member of the media, but I'm a huge Kentucky fan. And it pains me to see that we're in this situation where we're going to bowl games every single year. And now we're hoping, hoping to beat Tennessee Tech for crying out loud.

hoping to get them to get our third win. We've not had an SEC home win since Florida in 2023. It's just ridiculous and it's sad. It's more sad to me than ridiculous. I hate what's happening to our program. I hate this is happening to Mark Stoops. I want him to be successful here. I want him to be my coach.

But this is just getting the point where it's unacceptable. and our fan base kind of made that loud and clear tonight with how there are a lot of empty seats there, a lot of people left early, and I just don't know if it's going to get any better, especially if they get whooped next weekend down at Auburn, a game that many of us thought, that was maybe a winnable game.

Now Auburn's kind of found themselves a little bit, and we'll have to wait and see. Tennessee wins it. 56, 34, another loss to the volunteers. Cats will regroup. going down to Auburn next weekend. Billy, final thoughts? That basketball game was a lot of fun the other day.

Basketball season is started, and just like Darrell said, most fans' focus will shift over now, especially after they beat the number one team in the country pretty handily last night. So that'll do it for the local total deers, KSR postgame show. Thanks to all our callers who called in. Thanks for Billy who stayed up late. All everybody who stayed up late tonight listening to the night, it's after 1.30 in the morning for crying out loud,

and we're still got paid. It's going to be hard for me to get to sleep. I mean, most of us are going to lay in bed, toss and turn. Remember the good old days when we were scoring touchdowns and beating teams and winning 10 games a couple years in a row. Those are the glory days. These are not. You don't want to put fruit loops up your butt and fart rainbows.

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