KSR - KSR Postgame UK FB vs Texas 10/19/25
Episode Date: October 19, 2025Matt and Billy recap the Cats' 16-13 OT loss to Texas.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....
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The Cats take a very difficult loss in overtime to preseason number one, Texas,
in a game that they should have won, but did not, in overtime.
I'm 16 to 13.
We're going to go ahead.
I'm going to go ahead and open up the lines.
I'm going to give my take on it, and then I do want to take your phone calls.
I think this is a game where there's a lot of various emotions that people can have,
and I want you to get a chance to express them.
I'm just going to just start with mine.
I went to this game.
I actually, since COVID, have not gone to a lot of games.
Part of that is doing these postgame shows trying to get out and get home in order to do them.
and part of it is I, you know, I don't like to sit in the press box,
so I don't end up going to a lot of games.
But I went tonight because I just wanted to be in the environment and sort of,
it had been a while.
And, you know, I had no expectations for the game.
I kind of thought Kentucky would keep it close, but I did not think they would win at any point.
and then they did what Kentucky football does to me,
which is they got me to believe.
Because when the game was tied at 13 and went to overtime,
I thought, you know what?
I mean, we got the momentum.
Their offense is dreadful.
We can get, we score a touchdown.
I think we win the game.
And I do think if we scored a touchdown, we win the game.
I think we would have stopped them if we won the game.
But we did not, and we'll talk about that in a second,
and you get the loss.
I did allow myself to get my hopes up in overtime.
And that was the first time in the game I had, and it didn't work out.
Here's the bottom line about the game.
Kentucky was better.
Kentucky had double the yards, 395 yards to 176 yards.
Kentucky had the ball for 40 minutes.
Texas had the ball for 20 minutes.
Just if you just visually watch the game, Kentucky moved the ball up and down the field.
Texas had a couple of decently big plays, 30-and-40-yard games.
but otherwise was able to do very little against a Kentucky defense that played really well.
And as a side note, not trying to hate on the guy because I really like the Manning family,
but Arch Manning is not good.
And I have no idea where, I mean, I know where the hype came from,
but boy, it looks absurd when you actually see it up close.
So Kentucky was the better team, but they lost, and they lost for two reasons.
One is relatively simple.
two huge punt returns.
I mean, Texas does not get the ball in the end zone, if not for that, punt return.
They kicked it.
We kicked it twice to one of the best kick-putt returns in the country.
He might be an all-American put-returner.
We kicked it to him twice.
The first time, the coverage was bad.
Second time coverage was good.
Guy misses the tackle.
I'd have to go back and see who it was because I couldn't see it in real time,
but I think the guy thought he was going to fair catch it.
and didn't, and then just wasn't in position.
And they miss one tackle, and he goes for 40 yards.
You take those two plays out of the game, Kentucky wins the game.
But you have the plays, so you deal with it.
And the second thing is those third and fourth and one plays.
And as I was thinking about, because I drove back to Louisville,
so I was thinking about the, the Mark Stubes era.
And, you know, we've talked a lot about last four minutes the first half, first four minutes
the second half.
They actually did all right with that tonight.
But one of the consistent problems, in addition to conservative play calling, has been,
we have been bad at third and fourth and one in the last few years.
I don't know if you remember two years ago, I feel like every game there was a major third
and one or fourth and one that we just couldn't get.
That was the Devin Leary year.
I think that was probably the difference between Devin Leary being successful and not
was we could not convert third and fourth of once.
And tonight, you know, you have the one in the first half,
and then you do it in overtime.
Let's start with the first half.
I don't know what they were doing running quarterback sneak back on back-to-back plays.
Texas, the strength of their team is their defensive line.
Every single guy on their defensive line is going to play in the NFL.
And two of the guys are going to be first-round picks.
and the only area that I think you could say
where Kentucky was definitively not as good as Texas tonight
was running the ball at the middle,
and yet we did five straight plays,
two in the first half,
and then three in the overtime,
where we tried to do that in situations
that it didn't come close to working any of the times.
The two quarterback sneaks in the first half
were the worst calls I've ever seen.
I think Bush, maybe his angle,
because I was sitting there looking,
where the coach's box are.
He had to have on third and one.
He had to have thought that, excuse me, it was third and two.
He had to have thought it was like third and inches.
Because I don't know what he's doing on third and two running cutter sneak.
And then they get to fourth and inches and they get stopped.
Disaster right there.
I mean, I think if you score a touchdown right there might be slightly a different game.
But they get past it.
The overtime, you know, in some ways the overtimes is,
bad as it can go for Mark Stoops and Bush Hamlin.
You have a 22-yard play on the first play to Kendra Claw that gets you to first and
goal from the three.
At that point, unless you get a false start, you're going for it.
I have no problems, by the way, with Mark going for it on fourth down.
Yeah, you could say, well, you kick a field goal, but the thing is, they've got a good field goal kicker.
So even if they can't get in the end zone, they're going to kick a field going.
you're going to be right back to where you were before.
When you're first in goal from the three
and you're playing a team that was preseason number one on your home field
and you've been criticized as a coach for many years for being too conservative,
you've got to go for it.
So I have no problems with Mark going for it.
He said he had no regrets for going for it.
He shouldn't have any regrets.
They should have gone for it.
It's the play calls.
I mean, if you go back and look at the play on fourth down,
Dante Daldale, he jumped from the four-yard line.
How did they think that was going to work?
The only place Texas dominated us all game was in the middle of the defense on the line of scrimmage.
And we went straight up the middle three straight times.
They got, I don't want to say they got conservative because they went for it,
but the play calling was vanilla right there.
And it's a shame because I actually think Bush Hamden called a pretty good game for most of the game.
I mean, they were creative.
They put Cutter in some good circumstances.
I didn't like some of his sweeps and jets.
We had like three or four go for loss of yards,
but they did a lot of good stuff.
I mean, they had 300, look, they had 396 yards against a defense that's one of the best
defenses in the country.
So I can't criticize the play calling in general, but I sure can criticize it at the end.
And it's a shame because this is the reality of the situation for everybody involved.
None of you feel good about this game.
None of you.
Not one of you feel good about this game.
The days, in year 13, the, it's close, we feel good.
It just doesn't work, especially with where we are in year 13.
This, I actually think Kentucky played really well.
I mean, put the punt, put the punt return coverage aside.
I actually think Kentucky played really well.
I think that defense played great.
They did, I think Brad White owned Steve Sarkeesian, who's a really good play caller.
I think Brad White did great.
I thought Bush Hamden was all right.
I thought Mark showed some guts.
But you know what?
When it mattered, they just didn't make the right decisions.
And so part of me says is this just how it's going to be.
Like even when we play well, even when we play well, we just can't do the last thing to get the win.
Somebody ran through Chat GPT, and I don't trust Chap GBT on most things.
But the stats too good for me to not at least acknowledge it,
and I think it has to be close to true, even if it's not true.
How many games has a team gotten double the yards and had double the time of possession and lost?
And it said you have like a 97.8% winning to do that.
Somebody did that.
Now, I don't know if that's scientifically true, but I bet it's close to true.
You have double the time of possession.
You have double the yards.
and I think we only had one turnover,
there's no reason we should lose that game.
And it was there for the taking.
It was there for the taking.
You had a third and one and a fourth and one in the first half
and a second and three, third and one, fourth and one in the second half.
Or, excuse me, an overtime.
And you couldn't convert.
And that's that.
And you're not going to get a better chance than that.
Because Texas offense is so bad,
at the end of the day, Mark Stoop's brand of football is designed to give you a chance to win games like this.
This is why we always play Georgia pretty well.
It's because we are built to play against teams like this.
We are built to play against teams like Texas.
And Mark Stoops' coaching philosophy will keep you close in games like this, but then you have, if that's going to be your philosophy,
we're not going to be able to beat the teams that put up huge yards.
I worry Tennessee will crush us next week.
If you're going to play that philosophy, when you play a Texas team and you double
them yards, you've got to win. You got to win.
And they just did.
And there's a lot of positives coming out of this game.
Cutter Bowley played really well.
He made some bad decisions.
He took some sacks he shouldn't have taken.
But he has improved every game this year.
He's gutsy.
I like him.
I like the kid.
You got something there, right?
you didn't even really get your best running back didn't even really get all that many opportunities
and you still did well you saw some receivers make some plays you know there's a lot of good stuff
but when it came down to it first and goal from the three four plays at it you got to score
if we score a touchdown we win they're not going to score it
archmanning was was awful they had eight first downs folks
Eight.
If I told you before the game, you're playing Texas.
They're only going to have eight first downs.
You got to win.
We had 26.
We had 26 first downs.
They had eight.
And we lost.
So where does that leave us?
Well, I mean, you can't say that this game proves that Stoops can't coach,
because clearly he can't.
He had this team prepared.
When a lot of people, it would have been easy for this to be open.
Two weeks since you last played, the fan base, including local media like myself, basically
giving up on the season.
You could have lost the locker room.
You could have lost the coaching staff.
And they came out and they played really well.
You also have to say that much maligned coordinators, I actually thought, had a pretty good
game plan.
And I will say the players played their hearts out the entire game.
But in the end.
You lost.
And in the end, I guess, and this is what I'm interested to hear what the fans say,
859-280-20-287.
Does anybody come out of that game feeling more confident about the Stoops era than before?
I think it was proven.
For people that say Stoops is awful, I think they're wrong.
But if your opinion was what I think a majority of the opinion of the fan base was,
which is this program needs to go in a different direction.
Is there anything that just happened that would change your mind about that?
I think the answer is probably no, unfortunately.
I think the answer is probably no.
And this was a good chance.
This was a chance to get one.
This was a chance.
I mean, Auburn may fire Hugh Fries tomorrow.
You know, this was a chance to maybe go into that Auburn, Louisville thing, and go, who knows, maybe.
And he just couldn't do it.
and I hate it.
I hate it for the players.
It was a great environment there tonight.
The fans showed up.
Our bar was dominating the pregame by Texas people,
but at the game, there were a lot of Texas fans,
but the Kentucky fans controlled the crowd,
and it was a good environment, especially the longer it went,
and just can't do it.
So I worry that even though overall this was a positive performance,
It was another disappointing ending.
It was another sign of frustrations that have plagued the Stoops era, poor play calling down the stretch, special teams' mental errors.
And I think we come out of it, unfortunately, right back where we were before.
859-280-2287.
I'm interested to hear what you think.
By the way, I am still livid about the call that.
where they called the false start when they had 13 guys on the field.
That didn't cost us.
Ridiculous.
But it is annoying.
They had 13 guys on the field.
We didn't do one thing wrong.
And we get the penalty.
I mean, come on.
But that's not what causes the game.
What causes the game is first and goal from the three and you can't get in.
So 859-28027.
We'll take your phone calls and be right back.
It is the local toy dealers, KSR post-game show.
Welcome back.
It is the local toy dealers, KSR post-game show.
Let's go for a couple of texts here from the text machine, which is 772-774-5254.
One person writes, Matt, what about the environment?
You said you haven't been in a while.
Did you think the music and sound is better?
Music, better, choices.
Sound is still not great.
I noticed they had speakers on the field, Billy, which I've never seen before.
I don't know if they've been doing that all year or not.
So it was, it felt like it was a little better, but we still have like an old speaker system that isn't great.
But I thought the fans were, I give the fans a lot of credit.
I didn't know, I was kind of worried when I was at the bar earlier.
I was like, is it going to be all Texas fans in there?
And there were a lot of Texas fans, but there were a lot of Kentucky fans too, and they were loud.
So I thought the fans were good.
The fans gave Kentucky a chance to win.
So, you know, it kind of is what it is.
One person writes, Matt, what about Mark Stoops in the postgame show and in the press conference?
He sounded like someone who knows the fate that is coming.
I didn't hear that, Billy, because I was listening to something else.
What did it sound like?
I mean, he was disappointed, as you would expect, but I don't know if he had resigned himself to being fired at this point.
I mean, there's a lot of optimism.
I don't think you could say he would be fine.
I mean, I'm sure.
Yeah, I don't think that's, I think what's a bigger deal for him is,
how he knows what the fans feel.
You know what I mean?
I don't think it's so much
he's worried about what Mitch does.
I think he knows how the fans feel.
Well, Burson goes, Matt, before we talk too much about Kentucky,
can we just talk about how bad Arch Manning is?
Really bad.
I don't understand.
I really don't.
Because here's what this does.
Here's what Arch Manning does for me.
And maybe the kid will get good in the end.
I got nothing against Manning's.
I really like Peyton and Eli.
he's not good.
And I have two thoughts.
One, these NFL drafts a year before the season, Billy, they're just worthless, right?
Yeah, it's just talking.
Like, they're just worthless.
I will say Todd McShay's been saying all year he wouldn't, like even before the season started.
He was like, I don't know why people have Archmanning number one.
So I give him, I mean, Todd McShay did say that.
But they're worthless.
He was number one in every mock draft.
and he's the worst quarterback we've played this year feels like it i mean he's not good he missed
open throw like i i don't get it and then second paul fine bomb said he was the best player of all
time he said it was the best college player since tbo yeah like have you where did that come from
like i said all summer on my show with mirene if
he was so good, why didn't he play in front of Quinn Ewers?
But I had no idea he was like this.
I kind of feel sorry for the kid.
I do.
I mean, I feel sorry for him.
Put his name into Twitter during the game.
My goodness.
Some ways, poor kid.
But I cannot believe how bad he is.
So, I don't know.
But it just goes to show mock drafts, at least before the season's,
over. I don't know how helpful they are.
All right. Who's up first? Matt is up first.
Matt, go ahead, Matt.
Yeah, Matt, I agree with you. I think the offense looked a lot better tonight, but still just
the critical mistakes and then critical moments of the game. It's just, we're frustrating,
more heartbreak as a Kentucky fan. And I still don't understand, like, how halfway through
the year our offense is still looks confused. I don't understand that. Like, our
Well, at least in some key situations they did.
I mean, I thought in general they did.
So, like, the first 10 or 15 plays, we always script those, we look so good.
Same thing in the second half, by the way.
The plays we script look so good.
And then we get into these unique situations where it's not scripted, and then sometimes
we look completely lost.
Yeah, but I think it might be a blessing in the styles, because Barnhart probably would have
give Stoops an extension if we would have won tonight.
Well, I appreciate the call.
It would be interesting to see what would have happened.
I mean, they wouldn't have given him an extension, but if they won to
deny, you know, I don't know what it means for the rest of the year.
But I just, I don't know that this helped him at all, even though we played.
I think we played really well.
I don't know that it helps because of how it ended.
I really don't.
Who's next?
Justin.
Justin.
Go ahead, Justin.
Hey Matt, how's it going?
Appreciate you taking the call.
I just wanted to talk about something that I experienced at the game tonight,
and it was kind of one of the most unprofessional things I'd seen from a UK staff.
So you guys know at the end of the half and the end of the regulation,
there was like 16, 14 seconds left.
We didn't kick the field goal.
I saw a fan, we kind of sit near the end of the end zone.
A fan kind of yell and saying, hey, why don't we go for it?
why don't we take a shot here when we kick the field goal with like 16 seconds left at the end of the regulation, right?
Mitch walked over to him, basically shoved his finger to say, told him to shut up, and went back underneath the goalpost.
Then they kicked the field goal, and he, like, kind of charged this fan and was like, shove it, shove it to him.
And I was, I just, like, I've never seen an athletic director interact with a fan in that way.
You know, I mean, I just want to be clear.
And I can't, obviously, I was not there, so I can't say that.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
but you're saying you saw that.
Absolutely, yeah.
And actually, one of my buddies, because we couldn't believe it happened,
one of my buddies saw on Twitter, like an ESPN video,
and you can see, like, Mitch, as the field goals going through the upright,
him kind of like start walking and fist pumping at the fan, right?
And I was, like, kind of astounded.
I was, like, you know, he might not agree, right?
I know, like, this is a legacy contract for him with Stoops, right?
We all have our opinions on whether or not Stoops is the right fit after 13 years,
if maybe it's time for him to go, maybe it's not.
I kind of leaned somewhere in the middle.
But, yeah, I was very shocked to see Mitch interact with a fan that way, right?
Fan spent a lot of money to go to these games,
and I think that fan had a right to express his opinion about, you know,
what he thought we should have been going.
You know, you even alluded to the conservative play call toward the end of the games,
and it actually on time.
I appreciate you telling me to telling that story.
I appreciate the call.
I'll have to look at the video to see the thing about Mitch.
I could see it, you know, for all the button, the top button,
he can get pretty worked up.
Yelling at fans is almost always a bad idea, though, if you're a coach or a player or an AD.
But, of course, I can't, I didn't see it.
So I'm just taking off what he said.
Let me, on those things about the end of the first half and the end of the second half,
I don't think they should have run another play on either of those.
You did not have a timeout.
Cutter had taken like three or four bad sacks in the game.
You could not risk him screwing that up.
So I don't think they should have run another play at the end of the first half or the second half.
I mean, honestly, what are you hoping happens?
You can really only throw to the end zone.
Because if you throw it short, you might not get down in time to stop the clock.
But I do have a complaint.
It's not about not run the play.
it's Billy, why are you not running the clock down so it's the last play of the half?
Right.
It didn't end up hurting them in either case.
First time, Texas kneeled.
Second time, same thing.
But it could have.
Could have.
So, like, that's a little basic thing, but it's illustrative of what frustrates me.
You're going to call your final time out.
There's 15 seconds left.
Just wait until there's four seconds left.
And then the game will end.
why are you doing it with 15 seconds left?
You give them a chance to throw a hell Mary or to throw a quick out and then get out of bounds, kick a long field goal.
I just, it didn't matter, but it's just an example of the little things that drive me crazy that we sometimes do.
What's next? Patrick.
Patrick, go ahead, Patrick.
Hey, Matt, first time caller.
Who up?
So on that last drive, before I get into my point real quick, on that last drive, Texas was really
only bringing three on the blitz.
So I think taking a shot with 15 seconds as long as cutter throws it to the end zone,
I mean, I think it's at least worth the risk.
But what if you get it picked off?
I mean, when you say just throw it to the end zone, what if you get it picked off?
I mean, that's true.
But I guess, you know, where we're at as Kentucky fans, you know, it's one of those things.
It's like we might as well do it.
Well, but he had a 52, he had what, a 52 yard field goal.
He's a pretty good kicker.
He's only missed one in his career before tonight.
I think I'm fine with it.
I mean, I understand the other case, but I'm fine with it.
Like, I don't know how many coaches would throw one to the end zone right there.
Now, if you had one timeout, maybe you're right, but you had no timeout.
So let's say you catch it at the five-yard line, the clock might just run out, you know?
And if you take a sack, you're done.
You take a sack.
Like, think about it.
You're 40 yards away.
to give your receiver time to get to the end zone,
you might end up taking a sack.
But my point was that they were only rushing three on that drive.
Well, that's true.
You did say that.
We would have at least maybe had a chance.
I see where you're coming from.
But another thing I won real quick was just,
I think the frustrating things for us as fans is that, you know,
games like tonight, we know that we're so close, you know,
and it's just so frustrating to be right there
and know that we can be competitive
and then to just know, like, are we stuck in this Stoop's contract, you know?
So that's all I had.
Thanks, Matt.
Yeah, I appreciate the call.
I mean, you know, it would be unfair to say we haven't won some of these games.
We have.
We beat Ole Miss last year.
But, you know, it doesn't matter to me what we've done in the past in some ways.
This is about now and the future.
And I just don't know that anything tonight changed anything when it could have.
I mean, if they had only won to not.
and then didn't win again the rest of the year.
That wouldn't have changed anything.
But, you know, this would have been, you could have not.
Here's the thing.
We win that game.
Billy, Texas is out of the playoff.
Yeah.
And the Archmanning, you know, I get a thing for my ESPN producers about what we're going
to talk about tomorrow morning because we lead off with college football.
We had in our thing, if Kentucky won, we have to talk about Archbany.
Right?
So, like, we could have been a national story.
instead it's just another frustrating Kentucky loss well quickly about the future i mean if we learned
anything cutter bully is the guy i mean he certainly yes he certainly is now you know we'll see
what happens with the way to the but he was great tonight he was except for except for a few of
those a couple of those sacks but you know what that some of that's just having this is only what
his fifth or six games bad interception too he should have thrown that that interception though was bad
but it did i didn't i mean they didn't have getting no points from it so
I didn't hate that one.
It was a bad throw, but he was trying to make something happen.
Who's next?
Wade.
Wade, go ahead, Wade.
Hey, Matt.
I think Mark Stoops hates all of us.
Like, the way that he just tortures us in these kind of games,
it just feels on purpose at this point.
I'm just so tired of, at the beginning of today,
I had no hope, and I honestly kind of wanted us to lose,
to just get this season over with,
and maybe we can move on for the future to fire him.
But by the end of the game,
my heart was all in.
And of course, it gets taken away in the worst way through a terrible game to watch.
It wasn't fun.
And I had my heart ripped out right at the end.
And it feels like he's done that several times, at least once a year.
He does that.
And I'm just convinced that he hates me at this point.
I don't think he hates you, but I get what you're saying.
They get you in just enough to believe.
Right?
It's just enough to believe.
because I did not believe
until he made the kick to go to overtime.
I didn't.
I really didn't.
I was like, well, we're going to lose.
And then I did.
Yeah.
And then I get it knocked down.
Yeah, and I agree.
And I have to disagree with something you said earlier this week
when a fan called in and talked about NIL
and taking that away from stoop.
I mean, we have no leverage in this contract situation here
and us paying all this money for,
three wins a season just seems ridiculous when we could be paying it to something like baseball or
softball or volleyball and having an amazing season i mean if he's going to make us miserable then i feel
like the only way we can get out of this is if we make him miserable and go have a better
sport year for something else give it to anything else basketball give us a 40 million dollar basketball
n i'll yeah well i don't appreciate the call i don't think uh i don't think what i think is unique is i think
there are people who think
that Mark Stoops, like, wants to
hold the program hostage. I actually
don't think that's true.
I think when you hear his comments,
he knows what the fans think.
And I think it hurts
him. Part of what makes me
sad about this is
if we go down this path,
I know what I'm going to end up saying on one of
these shows, right?
I mean, I'm not, I know what I'm going to have to say
at the end of the year if it stays like this.
and the thing is he knows that's how fans feel and it bothers him
whereas with Cala Perry
Cala Perry was the opposite Cala Perry
was like I'm gonna do it to show the fans like stick it to the fans
that's not how Mark feels
it hurts Mark that the fans feel the way they do
and that makes me sad
because he wants to be loved by the fans.
So part of the reason I kind of think this is going to end the way I think it's going to end
is I think he's going to want it to, too, too.
Unless something changes, and we can't completely throw that away because we almost won tonight, Bill.
You know what I mean?
We almost won.
Yeah, and goes back to that caller's point if they would have just gotten blown out and lost.
Oh, listen, it was 10 to 3.
I thought what was going to happen?
was we were going to go three and out,
then they were going to score a touchdown.
It was going to be 17-3,
which was exactly what I thought the score would be before the game.
And I was like, well, this is, you know,
we scored three points.
This is terrible.
And then we did just enough to break all our hearts.
Who's next?
Ethan.
Ethan.
Go ahead, Ethan.
Hey, Matt, how's it going?
What's up?
Look, there, I know we can't get out of the whole Stoops contract situation,
but there is absolutely no reason
as why Bush Hamden has a job.
Monday morning.
There has got to be an offensive analyst on this staff,
or offensive anything on this staff that knows how to get.
Oh, okay.
So I understand where you're coming from on that,
but let me just play devil's advocate and see your thoughts.
Because I think the calls on second, third, and fourth down are indefensible,
especially when paired with the plays in the first half on the third and one and fourth one.
With that said, he also went for three.
396 yards against one of the best defenses in the country.
Does that mean something?
I agree, but nobody's going to remember that now.
You're right. You're right. You're right about that.
It doesn't matter. It would have mattered if we had won the game, because they were not, like you said earlier,
they were not scoring when they got the ballback.
If we have scored right there, he had four plays to score from the three-yard line in overtime,
and he couldn't make it happen. It was three runs up the middle.
That's just ridiculous.
And that will probably be, and I appreciate the call.
Whether Mark Stoops comes back or not,
it is almost certainly the case.
Bush Hamden will not be the offensive coordinator next year.
And to the extent there was doubt left in that,
it probably ended on those four plays.
No matter what they end up doing the rest of it.
I don't think you can probably,
I don't think you can let him go Sunday
because you're playing Tennessee Saturday,
and you're going to have to score a lot of points if you're going to have a chance.
and I don't know that putting a new guy in there is going to make that happen.
But, yeah, I mean, him coming back probably ended with those plays at the end of the first,
at the end of overtime.
Because they would not have scored.
Texas was done, done, done.
They were.
They were done done.
If it wasn't for those punt returns, they have no offense, basically.
So, and who would have ever thought,
me. I mean, it's so crazy to me how bad they are
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Bedbug.
Bedbug. How are you?
Hey, what's going on, Matt and Billy?
What's up?
Hey, well,
before I start, I just want to say the players
played their butt off.
I mean, I'm really impressed
how they played. They
tried everything they could to win
the game. They really did try.
Right?
Yes
But
All right
So I'm 42
Been watching the cat
Since what
I was 8
To where I could
I actually remember
And
I'm not saying that I wanted
I wasn't rooting for them
To lose the game
But at the same time
But don't get me wrong
I want to them to win
But at the same time I'm like
Man if they win this game
Then there's a chance
that Stoops comes back.
Well, yeah, I mean, I know what you're saying, but like, you still have to be,
you still have to want to win, right?
Like, I mean, I don't know.
I think if you ever get to the point where you're rooting against your own team,
your incentives are kind of off, you know.
No, and that's how I was trying to explain it to my fiancé.
I was like, I was like, I want them, it's so, it's so hard because I want them to win.
I can't, I can't see them lose.
I can't, I don't want them to lose, but I don't want this guy to come back because it's the same thing every single year.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
No, I get it.
I get what you're saying, and I appreciate the call.
You're not saying you want them to lose.
At the same time, you won a definitive resolution.
And in your case, that definitive resolution is it sounds like you want a coach and change.
That's why Drew and I've said all year, five and seven would be the worst record you could have.
But it's looking less and less like we're going to get five and seven.
But if you had won tonight, you know, I think Auburn might fire you freeze tomorrow.
So you don't know what's going to happen there.
And then, well, I mean, Vandy's really good.
So I don't know.
That looks different than it did our own year.
But Louisville, I know Louisville beat.
Miami, but I actually think if we don't, if we haven't quit, I actually think that game can be
very competitive.
But, but you didn't win.
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So somebody tagged Billy and I in a video of the kick.
and Mitch Barnhart is
definitely pointed
somebody.
Definitely fist pumping.
He's definitely pointed somebody.
Now that doesn't mean
that doesn't mean that
it was what that guy said,
but he's definitely pointed somebody, Billy.
I think that's fair to say.
Yeah, that was...
And he's pumping his fist,
so, you know,
certainly plausible what that guy says.
ADs get frustrated too.
Maybe that's something that happened.
You had something.
What was it?
Yeah, we got to talk about Seth McGowan for a second because at one point in the game,
he was wearing a gold watch on his wrist while he was playing.
Yeah, I saw that.
And then...
We've done that before, though.
We had a guy do that.
I can't remember.
I think when we beat Florida on the road for the first time in, like, 2018, there was a guy,
somebody, maybe it was Juice Johnson.
Somebody who made a big play that was wearing a watch.
So that's not the first time I've seen that, but we go ahead.
Okay.
And then McGowan had to leave.
He had a shoulder injury.
They took him to the hospital, I believe.
That's that true?
He then came back and then entered the game again.
Yes.
Did they say that on the broadcast?
Yes.
He actually exited the stadium from the other end, which is where the ambulance usually is.
He was taken to the UK healthcare and then came back.
He was supposed to get a CT stand.
I believe you, but is that a Billy source or did someone say that?
That was the radio and TV broadcast.
Okay.
So, okay, see, I didn't hear any of the broadcast.
Okay.
Well, that's crazy.
And that would have been a legendary thing if we won, right?
Because he came back in the game.
Yeah, came back into the game.
So that's incredible from him, if that's true.
That is incredible.
That's got to be the most famous leaving the stadium go to the hospital since Tebow
when Taylor Windham hit him in 2007 or whatever that year that was.
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Enrique.
Enrique.
Enrique, how are you, Enrique?
Good.
How are you?
But, I mean, third and two and you run a quarterback sneak?
I would be interested if somebody should.
I think Bush Hamden had to have thought it was third and inches.
Because I don't think you run that on third and two.
You got to remember where they're seated.
Maybe there was an angle thing.
They were trying to go quick.
I don't know.
But, like, for me, that makes no sense.
A quarterback sneak, third and two.
By the way, I thought they got a bad spot on that, too.
You know, that's supposed to be where you start sliding.
I think he started sliding just short of the line.
I thought they got a bad spot on the play before.
But go ahead.
I just thought that was pronouncing.
I thought we should score there, you know, regardless, I think, you know, pressure, whatever.
Take three points, but it was close.
I mean.
I didn't mind them going for it.
I just wish they had a better play call.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, honestly, I think that Mark Stoops is the best coach.
I'm 32 years old.
Mark Stoops is the best coach I've seen at Kentucky by far.
I don't think it's Stoops.
I think, you know, it could here and there, we should have won this game by far.
So do you feel, let's say the team wins one game.
Let's say they go win at Auburn.
They finish four and eight.
Would you want another year of stoops?
I believe in stoops, yes.
Okay, all right, well, good.
All right, appreciate the call.
Nice to hear the other opinions.
One person writes, Matt, do you think that's the most road fans of any team we've had?
No, Tennessee has had times where they have more people because they're so close.
But it was a lot for a team that's coming from that far.
It was a lot.
LSU, when they came here last time, had a lot.
But this was up there.
I mean, there were a lot of Texas fans there.
They were oddly, though, Billy, not into it.
They were not loud at the game.
And like at my bar, they were like there, but they were like,
I said they all looked like, and I say this is a compliment, actually,
because they were all very nice, but they all looked.
like members of George
H. W. Bush's Republican
Party.
Okay. But you know what I'm saying?
Like they all were wearing like buttoned up
polos, brown polos
and khaki shorts. And you know, they had
that like swoopy haircut.
You know what I'm talking about? I do.
Like that's what they all were like couldn't
have been nicer and they were all like
gentlemen and like ladies.
And I heard they tipped really
well. So I'm pro Texas fans.
But they were not very energetic for a group of people that came in mass this far.
I think they just must know about Arch, you know.
I'd be interested to see.
I'd be interesting to see what they think of Arch because they can't think he's good, right?
They would have lost this game.
I mean, it would have been.
It would have been bad for him, probably.
Yeah, who's next?
Kevin.
Kevin, go ahead, Kevin.
Hey, Matt, you cannot compounded this call anymore what you just said.
Anyway, let me preface this first off.
13th region from Cumberland.
And I had the greatest thing of backing up Freddie Wayne
for our entire high school life.
And he's my dog, and I love him.
He's awesome.
Yeah, I love him.
And that's what I call it.
At my house tonight, we just got home,
and we're not mad.
I mean, I think it's apathy.
and that's scary too
when you say it's
what it is
did it like
did it like
because apathy is
I don't care
whether we win or not
did you feel apathy
or were you just like
no
I knew what was going to happen
yeah absolutely
when when the debacle
before half time happened
looked at my wife
and I was like
you know
let's let's
anyway
but uh
and this is not my
call.
I'm, dude, my, my day has been full.
I mean, it's a wonderful day and, uh, get to call in and talk about Freddie
Wayne and, well.
And yeah, we, uh, Ryan and Drew just saw Freddie a few days ago.
Um, and he, he always says to give the message that he loves the fans.
And, uh, I just say everybody, you know, say a prayer for Fred.
He has good days.
He has bad days.
I bet you never had anybody on the call that Freddie Wayne's backup for four years, right?
If not, well, they're going to be one of them.
I appreciate the call, man.
Thank you very much.
Anyway.
But everybody, say, you know, keep Freddie in your thoughts.
He loves this place when they went and saw him.
All he wanted to talk about was Kentucky football.
So he's a great man.
And, yeah, who's up next?
Nate is up next.
Nate, go ahead, Nate.
Yeah, man, there's, let me run, throw some stats at you, and like the other caller,
I kind of, I mean, really setting to apathy.
I know you're giving a both-side scenario on that third and two QB sneak,
but that's just absolutely, like, ridiculous.
Oh, I have no both sides.
That was a terrible call.
I mean, I'm not both sides any.
I'm just trying to explain why he did it, because if he, if he didn't think it was third and inches,
then it might be the worst call I've ever seen.
Absolutely.
And in Power 4 games, Bush has only scored two touchdowns in one game.
We've only won two SEC games at Krogerfield since November of 2021.
Now, I don't want you to skip over the first one.
In Power 4 games against Power 4 teams, in 13 of those games, we have only scored more than one touchdown once.
and we've never scored more than two.
That's why you would have to make a change if no other stat was correct.
Well, yeah, especially at the head shed.
And the only time we finished the middle or top half of the SEC
is when we had a head football coach in the United States Football League
or National Football League, Roman on our sidelines.
It's ridiculous, and all the programs surrounding us are getting better,
Indiana, Vanderbilt, Louisville.
Meanwhile, we're sitting here wondering how the hell we can't get in the end zone
when we're running, you know, have 395 yards total offense.
It's just ridiculous, man.
He's still got to go.
Appreciate the call.
Listen, the Vanderbilt, Indiana, Louisville part of it is a huge part of it.
There's no doubt.
I mean, the last eight days have been about as bad as it could be in that respect.
when you have Indiana go win at Oregon,
Louisville wins at Miami,
and Vandy beats LSU at home to go six and one.
You know, when you're the person,
and I was this person for many years
who says you can't win here, you can't this, you can't that,
I don't think that's true anymore in the NIL era
and in the portal era, and Vandy,
especially Vandy and Indiana, showcase that.
Louis is a different situation.
You're in the ACC, that's a different thing.
but they and Indiana are playing in big conferences and they're getting it done.
Let's do one more and we'll take our final break.
Who's next? Nathan.
Nathan. Go ahead, Nathan.
Hey, man, this is a first time call.
Who are?
I think my, I was just kind of trying to know thinking, a lot of my frustrations have been just with the coaching.
I agree they actually had a decent game plan tonight.
But like a lot of callers that have, and you have said, it's in those big moments.
that it's let us down.
I think that's where
myself, it's been very, very
frustrating to see where it's like,
you can kind of like,
the players played a great game,
but then, you know, in those big moments,
like you can't trust the coaching to get us through that.
Totally agree with you.
Totally agree with you.
Mark Stoops,
from moment one,
there are three,
Freddie Magger once said there are three phases of coaching.
There's,
like,
motivation,
there's preparation, and then there's end game, right?
Motivation, Mark's like 90% successful.
There would have been a time I said Mark's guys always show up.
They kind of quit at the end of last year,
and that was the first time that had happened.
But they came out tonight and played Mark's great at motivation.
I actually think they're pretty good at preparation over the years.
I think the game playing tonight was great.
They just put the shackles on Texas' offense.
and we actually had a pretty good game playing, I think, on our office.
So I wouldn't say he's 100% good at preparation, but a lot of times we are, and I think more often than not.
In-game coaching, specifically the stuff that is literally in the moment you have to figure it out and go X and go A or B based on what's just happened and you have 20 seconds to figure it out.
we've always been awful at it.
And I hate to say that, but it's a fact.
We've been bad at time management from moment one,
and it's really never gotten better.
And I know it's a little thing,
but the fact that we didn't let the last play of the first half
and the last play of the second half be our kicks,
and we left time on the clock,
is an example of what I'm talking about.
It didn't matter, but it's not understanding moments.
And we've been bad at it, and they are bad at it.
And they're never going to get better at it.
They've had 13 years.
They've never been good at it.
They've never been good.
At the end of the moment, you have to decide something,
and you have to use the logic of what's just happened to figure out what you're going to do next.
They're awful at it, and they've always been awful at it.
And that's very frustrating.
Yeah.
This is where it's at for me.
I think Stoops has been, I mean, there's a five-year runner.
He was so good for us.
But in the last few years,
when you're not winning and then these small mistakes build up.
I mean,
but how many times can you think of?
And I'm not saying there's none, okay?
But how many games can you think of where in the moment we made a decision
where we outsmarted the other team?
Now, there have been games where we out scheme the other team in lead-up.
I think Stoops' guys have played their hearts out for years.
but can you think of a game of a time where we said man our staff really outsmarted him in that moment
I can't honestly not the top of my head I can't and I appreciate the call that's what I call those
lane kiffin moments because lane kiffin I think actually screws up in a lot of other stuff but in
that he's as good as anybody he's as good at anybody in a moment of coming up with something
Well, maybe last year against him when we threw that deep pass to Barry and Brown.
Maybe that was the moment, Billy, when we did do that.
Yeah.
But there haven't been many.
And it's never gotten better, and I don't really know that it ever will.
Was that the last time they won an SEC game?
Yes.
Yes.
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Alabama beats Tennessee, including a 99-yard interception return,
and Tennessee may lose their baseball coach.
So that's good, right?
Yeah, is he going to the majors?
Is that official, man?
No, it's not official, but it looks like he's the favorite to get the Giants job.
I think that would be, that would be, I mean, it would interesting to see.
see a lot of college coaches go straight to the majors.
When person writes, Matt, I was at the game.
I think the Texas fans are the nicest group of away fans I've ever seen here.
You know, people had said to me that Texas fans were awful.
You know, maybe it was just they didn't think they were going to lose.
I don't know.
I found them to be like maybe the most pleasant.
LSU fans when they were here were really fun, but they talked trash and drank a lot.
I don't know, man.
These were all like gentlemen.
Maybe it's just the group that decided to come the weekend of Keenland.
I don't know.
By the way, Lexington was alive today in a way like,
I don't know if I can ever remember it being like that.
Like every single part of town.
I mean, you had so many different things going on.
From the Scarefest at Rupp Arena to the protest downtown,
to the parents,
parents weekend to the bar to like bars filled with UK and Texas fans to Keenland it's just like
the city was a buzz we talked about yesterday had the worst traffic in the history of Lexington
and I genuinely believe that's true today I can't ever remember being in this city when everywhere
you went there were just people walking and having fun like it was awesome really was a cool day
I mean, the ending stinks.
But I don't think I've ever seen a day where the city had as many people out in it.
And it was perfect weather, too.
Just an awesome day outside of the result of this game.
All right, let's go ahead.
I was going to say, it looked like Ocho Cinco had a good time at the game.
Yeah, how about Ocho Cinco in the student section?
ESPN I saw showed him and didn't mention him.
They showed the student section.
And he was in it, nobody noticed.
I guess Mario.
Mario saw him in there.
went and interviewed him and his video with him has gone viral.
How about Mario bringing it and going viral from his interview with Ocho
Cinco, where Ocho said he was going to lead the fans onto the field if we weren't.
I would love to have seen that.
All right, let's do.
We'll do six more and call it a night.
So who's up first?
Austin.
Austin, go ahead.
Matt, special teams have been a problem since the start of Mark Stoop's tenure here.
It's never been fixed, and that's part for the course.
I come from Clark County, Indiana.
I'm not sure if you're familiar with that at all.
Well, by the way, not always.
Not always. Remember, we had the national punter of the year.
We've had some really good kickers.
I don't know.
I think, I don't think that's a consistent Mark Stoop's issue, although it was definitely an issue tonight.
I come from Clark County, Indiana.
I'm not sure you're familiar with that at all.
If you're not, just Google Jamie Knoll.
Bush Hamden should be incarcerated for theft.
He's making blood money.
He's incompetent and he's a fraud.
And he's the least successful OC in America.
Please, Joe Craft, write your boy a $38.7 million check so he can sit by his
pool, sit already won, and think about how awful of a coach and how bad of a leader he's been in the end of his tenure.
Please, I beg you.
I'll stop you right there.
I appreciate the call.
I gave you a minute there.
Yeah, well, that was the opposite of the one guy just in the last segment, right?
Five more.
Who's next?
Edward is next.
Edward, go ahead.
Hey, Matt, I've been a season ticket holder since Couch was a sophomore,
and I'm as discourage as I've ever been.
We've got this clock mismanagement at the end of the first half, the end of the game,
and then Paul Cutter Bowley, he's played the game of his life,
and we don't give him a chance to win the game at the end.
I mean, how do we do that?
Yeah, I mean, I know what you mean.
I don't know.
You know, not a ton of people.
Well, I would say you're going to go four times from the three.
You probably do at least want to give him one or two shots at it.
I agree with you.
Yes.
And I thought he was great.
I thought he was great.
My only complaint was a couple times he took sacks in places where you just can't take a sack.
one time it got us out of field goal range
and we nearly got a safety once.
But, I mean, that's nitpicking
because I thought he made some great throws
and I also thought he was really tough
and had a couple runs that were really impressive.
The only time I thought he played good, played super,
the only mistake he made was throwing that interception.
I mean, the rest time he really didn't have time.
Well, no, he does have time.
So, and I appreciate the call,
He's got to make reads there.
I had a guy sitting close to me who was talking about.
And they're right.
Like there were reads he just didn't make.
So he didn't see the blitz coming and check off.
And so he held on to the ball.
And so, you know, sometimes in a defense, you're letting guys run free.
But the quarterback's got to know that so that he then gets rid of the ball.
And I think he just missed it a couple times.
But the interception didn't bother me as much because it was third and 14.
He was trying to make a play.
And they ended up not scoring.
So I don't think that had a huge impact.
Who's next?
Jerry.
Jerry. Go ahead, Jerry.
Yeah, Matt, first off, the Texas fans were great,
including my lovely wife who grew up in Texas.
I had to put up with her a long horn year over there tonight.
But, you know, you have to take care your wife.
As far as the game goes, you know, all through the game,
I felt at some point our offensive coached with a club and buy a career.
The setup was perfect.
Texas comes out flat after that big game.
Their offensive line addresses where they were against Florida.
And Arch is running for his life.
Setup was perfect for us to upset him.
You just had that pit your stomach saying,
sooner or later, we're going to have some screw up on offense.
And sadly, down there at the end of the overtime, it did.
You and I have to agree to get screwed.
I'm not kicking the field goal there.
I think you kick the field go there because your defense has been holding them out.
And then you just play on.
Yeah.
But, again, let's play it.
it out. I mean, let's say you kick the field go right there. Then they come down and let's say
we hold them and then they kick a field goal. They got a good kicker. So you're like, it's not like
they have a bad kicker and you assume they're going to miss it. So now you're right back to where
you were before. Are you going to get a better chance than first and goal from three the second
time around? I mean, you know, I think you're sitting there playing the numbers. He's at fourth
and a half a yard.
I just feel like you got a better chance
of getting it on fourth and a half in yard
than to go back and be first and ten at the
25 again, which is what you're asking for.
Well, I guess
probably the biggest problem I have with it is running those
plays right in the defeat of the
strength of their defense. I agree with that. That to me
is a bigger issue.
And then
and then, and then
Sark tried to bail him out.
Because the play is when that happens,
you just, you just, you just
come out to the 25 if you've got a decent kicker,
could still go game over.
And Sart almost screwed that up.
He almost screwed it up.
I'll tell you what, they also bailed us out in regulation when that guy ran out of bounds.
I mean, we shouldn't have even been in overtime.
Appreciate the call.
I mean, that guy just ran out of bounds.
That, he, like, we got a break just to be in overtime there.
I mean, I was happy for it.
But, yeah.
Also, I think Mark should have called a time out when we let 35 seconds run off the clock
when it was clear they were in field going.
range.
I would have called timeout before.
Ended up not really mattering.
We got into field goal range, but again, that's kind of the clock management stuff.
One person writes, Matt, seriously, you think they can beat Louisville?
That's a problem with Kentucky fans.
You don't live in reality.
Yes, I do.
I don't think we're the favorite.
You all should be over a touchdown favorite.
But let's play a little bit.
You lost at home last week to Virginia.
Virginia should have lost today to Washington State, who's like two and five.
Okay?
So no, I don't think it's crazy.
you guys almost lost a pit
you did lose to Virginia
now you beat Miami that's awesome but you're
inconsistent so is it crazy
to think
that Kentucky could play with Louisville
no now do I think it's going to happen
probably not I think we're probably going to go into that
game three and eight and our guys probably
won't feel like they have a lot to play for
and we'll probably lose
but like
I don't understand how Louisville
fans you just lost
to Virginia at home
come on
you're not world beaters
now you're going to play like three bad teams
in the next few weeks so you're going to go into that Clemson game
you know what 7 and 2
or 7 no 8 1
but then you're going to lose to Clemson
who's not good
just remember I told you that
three more who's next
Josh is next Josh go ahead Josh
hey Matt so
my big thing that I have an issue with
is we let Cutter get into a flow
we let him move the ball down the field,
move the ball down the field,
and then we immediately cut him off and just run the ball.
Like we instantly stop all the momentum that he gets
and just cut it off for,
I don't know if it's a hand-in-play call
or if it stoops,
but it just feels like we kill his entire momentum
automatically just for no reason.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, you do have to balance it a little bit
of passing and running, but we weren't.
I mean, Texas strength,
is the heart of their defense, is the interior of their defensive line.
Like I said, all four of those guys are going in the NFL.
And we appreciate the call in very important moments of the game
continued to think that that was going to work.
And I don't know how we'd have thought that.
One person writes, Matt, I'm a blue coat.
I've been working at these games for 40 years.
Texas fans were the nicest fans as a group we've ever had.
Well, that's nice, isn't it, Billy?
It's high praise.
From a blue coat.
Two more.
Who's next?
Roy.
Roy, go ahead, Roy.
Hey, guys, first time, long time.
How's it?
What's up?
Man, one thing that really hurt me tonight is, I've been at Kentucky football fan from 29 years.
I came out to Woon a UK fan.
And we had four fumbles tonight, and we didn't lose the one-off.
That's true.
That is really true, yeah.
And that won, the guy tried to scoop and score.
If he just falls, they get it, and we ended up getting it back.
You're right.
The bounces were on our side.
man that last one that tie bright muffed i thought i was going to have aneurne oh me too
me too no you're right that that is by the way a very good point to make you know we did
fumble the ball four times and got all four bounces that's not going to happen in a lot of games
but go ahead i do have one positive thing to say uh i've been going to your restaurant your bar
for a long time and i always get the wings the wings are always good uh the last time i went i got a
burger.
I got the bacon jam burger, and that was one of the best hamburgers I have ever had in my
life, man.
I drive two and a half hours just to eat it again, to be honest with you.
Well, that's very nice of you.
Thank you very much.
We appreciate the call.
We've really, I think, very much improved the food quality there since we reopened.
And I'm very proud of it.
Today was our second busiest day ever.
And if we had won, I think it would have been our best day ever.
So thank you, the folks who came.
man, I do have to say thank you, the Texas fans, too.
One more.
Who's next?
Bryant.
Bryant.
Go ahead.
Hey, guys.
I guess last call, I'll try to end them a positive because I wanted to pivot to the defense.
I just want to ask, what would you rate this defense performance?
And do you think it's something that you can look forward to the next couple weeks?
Great.
I think it was, let me answer it.
I'll give you the second thing.
I think it was a nine and a half out of ten.
I mean, let's look at it.
We held them to 13 points in regular.
seven of those points were because of a punt return where they got it inside of the five
and three of those points were because of a punt return where they got it inside of the 40.
So 10 points were kind of almost given to them.
So I would argue the defense really gave up like three points.
They made open field tackles.
This team has been bad the last couple years on open field tackles.
They made almost all of them.
the special teams missed a couple, but the defense, there was almost no big miss tackles.
When they had to make a one-on-one play, they made it.
They got pressure on Arch.
They had a game plan where they dared him to beat them kind of in three-fourths of the field range,
like downfield.
He couldn't.
I thought the defense, I thought that was a great game.
And Steve Sarkisian is a very good play caller.
So Brad White, I think, deserves a ton of credit.
But go ahead.
Yeah, because, I mean, I want to be confident going next week,
but they just deflate.
And it's like, I feel like they might just feel deflated.
And, I mean, yeah, that's a great Tennessee offense coming in.
I just, I hate a great performance on defense,
and they come out and give up 40 points next week.
So I just hope it's a positive move forward,
but I'm not so high on going in next week because.
Yeah, I'm not.
Now, the next week's different.
I appreciate the call.
Next week's different.
I mean, next week's different because Tennessee plays an offensive style.
Tennessee plays an offensive style that's much tougher for us.
We're good against teams like this.
We are not good against teams like Tennessee.
So I'm not confident about next week's game.
I thought this game could be close.
But it wasn't just close.
It was there for us to win.
This wasn't a, I think I said on the pregame show, it'll be the fourth quarter, it'll be a one position game and we'll have the ball.
That was true.
What I didn't expect is we'll go to overtime and we will be the better team going into overtime and we should win and we were and then we didn't do it.
And so you're left with just the emptiness of we needed it.
We didn't get it.
And now I think even though it was a great night in some ways in terms of performance and a huge step up,
We're right back where we were before where it's hard to feel really, really positive going forward.
Thank you folks very much for staying up with me tonight.
Tomorrow be on ESPN from 10 to 1 and cover zero that evening, Billy.
Appreciate you staying up as well.
We will see you later.
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