KSR - KSR Postgame UK MBB at Alabama 01/03/26
Episode Date: January 3, 2026Matt and Billy recap the Cats' 89-74 loss at Alabama.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....
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It is the local toy dealers, Kentucky, KSR post game show.
The Cats lose in Tuscaloosa by double digits.
Once again, 89 to 74.
Fourth time, Mark Pope has played Nate Oates since he's been in Lexington.
and all four games have been double-digit losses where Kentucky has rarely had a chance to compete.
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I want to go over a little bit about the game and then talk about what we just heard right before I came on.
Let's start with the game.
You know, the cats in the first half were just bad.
And it's been this way essentially every first half against Alabama.
And honestly, it's been this way in the first half in virtually all of the good games we've had this year, right?
I mean, we've been down in the first half double digits in now six of our seven games against power conference teams.
I mean, I want you to think about that for a second.
We've played seven power conference teams.
Now, let me acknowledge those are seven good power conference teams.
All in the top 25 or Indiana is just outside of the top 25.
But if you're going to the tournament and you want to play in the NCAA tournament,
these are the teams you have to play.
And we've been down double digits in the first half in six of those seven games.
And, you know, it sort of doesn't matter what happens after that.
We ended up, I think, winning the second half by one point.
But it doesn't really matter because you have played yourself out of these games.
In one of those six games we came back and won against St. John's,
But otherwise, these have been, you're just down so much that, like, your entire game is trying to come back.
And this is a team that because they did not recruit shooting, which was our worry from the beginning of the season,
because they did not recruit shooting, they're not built to come back.
I mean, they're just not.
Like, this is not a team that can come back.
And you put yourself in these double-digit holes, and it's like, I thought to myself,
at halftime. I mean, I'm going to watch this second half, but kind of what's the point?
Like, we're not going to win. And I, it's just very disappointing. I didn't expect Kentucky
to win this game today. Alabama is better and Alabama is at home. I think I said on the pregame
show, you could have a team that was good enough to win the national championship that would
lose at Alabama. I mean, that's, at Alabama, it's probably our toughest game on the SEC
schedule. And you can make a strong argument that Kentucky, who sits nine and five,
has played six top 20-esque teams so far.
So I'm not, you know, I'm not sort of a doom and gloomer about the season as a whole,
but I am a doom and gloom about how we're playing because this team is just not playing well.
They had their full roster today.
But I don't know.
I'm not sure how, I'm not sure how we good we are.
I mean, it's a given that Jalen Lowe, Jail Lowe's good.
And if we didn't have Jailen Lowe, we would not make the tournament.
He's good.
I thought he played well.
When you consider his injury status, I thought he played well.
I don't understand why he doesn't start.
I don't understand why.
It's like Mark Pope wants to start these games with one hand tied behind his back.
I'm generally a believer that who start doesn't matter.
Over the years you've heard me say, well, it doesn't really matter who starts.
it's who finishes. Yeah, that's generally true, except when the rest of your guys aren't nearly as
good as the starter. And I can only think of two times this has really happened. Well, really three.
Quattie Green, Shea Gilgis Alexander was better. And then eventually Cal flipped and made
Shea the starter. And I think that mattered. He didn't do it with Reed and Rob. And we, of course,
know that, but I don't understand, like, this idea that we're going to help Jalen Lowe come along
by having him not start.
I mean, Billy, in the second half, he played, he didn't start him and then brought him in
one minute into the game.
What does that accomplish?
It's infuriating.
I don't know.
I mean, what does that, what is the mindset of, well, we can't start him, but we'll
bring him in with one minute later?
I don't get that.
So he should be starting.
I actually think he's our best player.
Otego away was good most of the game.
I thought in a key sequence,
he actually gave some really poor effort,
which annoyed me a little bit.
He had two turnovers on back-to-back plays,
and then he got fell down on defense.
I think we had cut it to nine,
and at the end of that sequence, we were down 14.
I'm not, I mean, I didn't like that sequence from him.
In general, though, without him,
especially in the first half, we're not even in the game.
So, I mean, in low enough,
away I'm good with. The rest of the guys, I don't know, man. They just, maybe they're just
not good. But I can't get over. It's a different player for Colin Chandler in these games
against good teams. He looks like a completely different guy. Denzel Aberdeen has just been,
he's just been bad. He's just been disappointing. And I think he was disappointing tonight.
Diabate, I thought, played hard, but you know, you can't rely on Diabate to be an offensive, like, facilitator.
But the problem for me, and then Cam Williams, again, about lineups, where is he?
How do you go 12 minutes in the second half and don't put him in?
You know, with eight minutes to go in the game, he had played six minutes.
How?
I mean, he made eight threes the other night.
what happened in the last two and a half weeks
or two weeks that we just decided he couldn't be in
against the team that has made 14 threes in the game.
So I don't understand Pope's lineups.
I don't understand why we continue to play starters
that are not our best players.
But be that as it may.
The biggest issue was defensively.
And for 30 minutes,
now they did adjust this in the last 10 minutes, I thought.
But for 30 minutes,
I thought they were playing a team that, like, it looked like they were playing a team where they didn't think they could shoot.
I mean, they were not extending out on the three.
They were clearly playing to try to stop penetration, I guess, to prevent Phylon from getting to the basket.
But he only had two points at halftime.
And so you just gave up a ton of threes.
Pope in the post game said something like, well, now they shot the ball really well.
I don't think that was unpredictable.
They're a good shooting team.
Maybe not as good as a couple years in the past,
but they're still really good at it.
And after they made the first nine, maybe you adjust.
They did adjust in the last eight or nine minutes,
and then I thought Kentucky was more competitive.
Now, down the stretch, that one guy hit the one from like 27 feet,
and then there were a couple times where we did really poor pick-and-roll defense
where I think they were supposed to come out on it,
and we just didn't.
But I don't understand for 30 minutes, we were clearly coaching them to go under ball screens
and to play the switch with the driver, or excuse me, with the guy rolling the basket.
And that's what you would do against Michigan State.
That's not what you would do against Alabama, at least I wouldn't think so.
So, you know, offensively we weren't great, but we also don't.
make threes.
You know, we've assembled a team that can't really shoot, and I don't know how that happened.
I don't know why Mark, after having all that success, at least offensively last year with
that group, thought the way to go was to build a team of guys who can't shoot.
It's odd to me that we did that, and the guys we have that can shoot just seemed terrified
in these games.
Colin Chandler seems to me to be terrified when we play these good teams.
So that all is a problem.
And I still think this team is okay, but I'm becoming less and less confident that if we play anybody good, we can win.
I mean, St. John's lost at home to Providence today, so maybe they're not good.
Indiana's okay, but, I mean, when we've played good teams, we're not even competitive.
We were not competitive against Michigan State.
We were not competitive against Gonzaga.
We were not competitive today.
We were semi-competitive against Louisville,
but again got down 20 in the first half,
and then North Carolina is a team we should have beaten and we lost.
So I'm disappointed.
I really am.
And I'm more disappointed because the things that I thought Mark Pope's coach team,
teams would be, it would be a given. They would play smart, they would play hard, and they would be
well prepared. I thought that was a given. You know, and I think last year, for instance,
they were. This team does not play smart, does not always play hard, and doesn't always seem
prepared. And I thought that was a given. Talent, I was worried. Is he going to be able to recruit
these top players we still haven't we'll see but being smart playing hard and being prepared to me
with a mark pope that is a given and it's just not with this group and i'm really surprised by it
i really am i did not see it coming the other thing i didn't see coming is and i just i think
we have to talk about it is the way mark is after these guys
games. The losses. I sat on the morning show earlier this year. And when Mark came from
BYU, Jacob, Polichick, and some other people, they did, they basically did a deep dive
kind of on what was Mark like at BYU? Like how does he play and what was he like? And people have
great things to say about Mark as a person because he seems like a great person. Very smart.
One of the smartest people, almost everybody will say one of the smartest people they've ever been around.
But a consistent theme that people said to, I think, Jacob and then a couple people I talk to is when he loses, he's not, he takes it hard and he's not good to be around.
And on paper, that's like not a bad trait, right?
We kind of want a coach that cares.
I mean, we had those times where people said things like, I want to get home.
to my dog and we didn't like that.
But there's difference between
like caring about losing
and then kind of what we've seen
from Mark this year. I mean, you heard
Rick Petino, who knows him better than any of us do,
say he called Mark after they lost
to Michigan State and said, what the hell's wrong
with you?
And I'm glad
he said it. He knows him. I really
don't. But I thought the same thing.
And then I thought the same thing after the Louisville game
when he did the whole like,
something happened in the locker room
but I'm not going to tell you
it's going to be like a Taylor Swift song
that was strange
he was really
weird and awful
after the Gonzaga game on the radio
but we lost by 35
but today
I'm going to play this little segment
of his interview that just completed
with Tom Leach now let me be fair
tomorrow there were two segments before this
he
I'm not going to say he was forthcoming
but he was okay in those seconds.
But Mark's job, or excuse me, Tom's job is Tom Leach is the nicest person on earth.
And Tom Leach's job is to just ask questions.
And this is a UK show.
This is a JMI show.
This is not like the New York Times interviewing you.
I just want you to listen to his final segment here with Tom.
Go ahead.
What did you tell them in the locker room after this?
We talked about a lot of things.
When you come back on Wednesday, what are the things that you need to see different?
That's a long list. There's a lot of things.
Lastly, when you look at a team that had made some significant progress, Jalen getting back,
gave you two great minutes today.
JQ is back, so what is the thing you try to build on from this point forward?
Well, there's not a lot from this game.
I mean, there was no good stuff, but we have made...
What do you have to do best, maybe?
What does this team need to do best?
Like I said, I was disappointed with our physicality in this game.
It's just not who we can be.
It's not who we should be.
And we have to...
Our game's got to start there.
Thank you.
Thanks.
I mean, I just find that rude.
Like, Tom talked more than Mark.
And I don't get it.
You have a fan base that after these games
has, like they're looking to you for answers.
And when I think about the last three coaches,
and I think about the moments that we think about
that sort of define the negative parts of their era,
I think about post-game interviews
where Billy Gillespie was like,
this is not the University of Jody Meeks.
Remember that, Billy?
And that was after a win.
And then he would be really rude to Tom back then.
then at the end you know i mentioned the i got to fly home to my dogs and cow would often just
skip postgame interviews after his losses i don't understand this mark is a great communicator
and a nice guy what fans want to hear you say something and when you're asked what did you say in
the locker room a lot of things and what needs to get better that's a long list
I don't know.
I just, I don't get that.
So when you combine a team that is not well prepared, seemingly, at least at the beginning of games, does not play smart, it doesn't always play hard, and then you get sort of these reactions.
I'm just, I'm really surprised.
Because I thought we would might have, when Park Pope was hired, I thought I had issues at acquiring talent.
and I thought we might have issues at like being a brand that Kentucky fans like of
athleticism, et cetera.
But I never thought the basics.
I thought the basics were a given.
And the basics aren't a given.
And I didn't see that coming.
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We'll take your calls, see what you think.
Be right back.
Cats lose to Alabama.
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A couple people asking on here on the text machine, 772, 774-5254, was Pope like this after losses last year.
Billy, I don't really remember him being like that.
Do you?
I don't, you know, because we took some bad losses last year.
Yeah, never to a level like we've seen this year.
Yeah, I don't remember him.
But then again, I think last year he probably thought the team.
overperformed a little bit.
He didn't go into the season saying we have a Ferrari and all that stuff.
So maybe that's what he did.
But no, I don't remember him being like that last year.
Let me read you a quote from Nate Oates.
Okay.
So this is, this is very interesting.
And Nate Oates, you know, I don't know, I wouldn't say he's a jerk,
but I think he's very plain spoken in terms of like, not plain spoken, that's not the word,
but straight, straight talking.
He says, quote, I had our guys pull.
every assist they had coming in.
Because when I watched them play,
I didn't really feel like they moved the ball great.
Correct.
He then added,
Kentucky's big men don't pass.
They've had seven assists out of the post
in all 13 games coming in.
When the bigs get the ball,
they're not trying to pass.
Now that's how you do analytics and film work.
No, I'm serious.
Like if you're into analytics,
some field work, and I am.
Nate Oates knowing that in 13 games, our Biggs had assist seven times when the ball went
into the post.
Well, there you go.
He knows when we throw it in the post.
He can throw everybody he wants at the man in the post because we're not going to kick it
out.
We maybe should thank Nate, because now that he says that publicly, maybe they change it.
Because that's a pretty damning statistic.
I had no idea.
I'm going to assume he's right.
I haven't checked it myself.
But assuming that's true, there you go.
That's the opposing coach telling you what your weakness is.
So there you go.
Who's up first?
Greg.
Greg.
Greg, go ahead, Greg.
Hey, guys.
How are you all doing today?
Me and the wife are season ticket holders for many years.
We went to Atlanta.
We stand.
We cheer.
No matter who's the coach, we're always.
clapping and for the big blue nation and you know it's very disappointing uh i don't think it was
a home run hire for the cats uh for the coach uh and it's very disappointing when you can't get guys
like oaks the yukon coach a lot of big people didn't want to even consider us and i think it's
that's to do with the fan base uh expecting a lot more things than uh what you're
Then we should.
Oh, come on.
Come on.
I was with you.
Hang on just a second, Greg.
I was with you.
The bottom line is, we don't have stars on this team.
Turn it down just second, Billy.
Hang on.
I'll make you hold on first.
I'm with you on everything until you say that the reason we didn't get a coach is because of the fan base.
This fan base has been the same since I was a child and probably the same 30 years before that.
Yes,
expect winning, but that's what makes Kentucky Kentucky.
Danny Hurley and Scott Drew did not come here because of the fan base.
Nate Oates, I don't know if he wanted to come here or not, but the university was not going to hire him.
He may not have wanted to come as well.
But Greg, it is not fair to say it is the fan base's fault.
I had nothing to do with Kentucky being prepared.
Neither did you, Greg, neither did anyone listening.
Kentucky not being prepared is not about the fan base,
and the moment the fan base doesn't expect success,
then you're not Kentucky, you're Minnesota basketball.
Now I'll let your respond.
Go ahead.
I just want to say we run off a Hall of Fame coach for this.
It looks to me like we're going to be the next IU.
We're going to be the next IU.
Appreciate the call, Greg.
How many NCAA tournament games did Calgary win in the last five years?
He won one game.
He won one game in five years.
Now, how many times did we make it to Saturday of the SEC tournament during his last five years?
Zero.
Zero times.
So I'm not going to relitigate the Calipari.
But it was time for a change.
but Mark Pope needs to be judged on Mark Pope
and so far this season it hasn't been
successful this year. What's next?
Micah.
Micah. Go ahead, Michael.
Hey, what's up guys? Matt, I would just want to say
you hit the nail on the head about the starting lineup
irritation. I just felt like that's exactly
what we went with or had with Calipari
in his last few years and not starting the right guys.
And Mark Pope's doing the same thing. I don't know if there's a hex or what.
But why can we not get that straight?
I don't know.
I really don't know.
I mean, I don't.
Like, okay, maybe there's an argument for Moreno over Quaintance.
Like, I can understand that argument.
Maybe Quaintance gives six-man energy and all that.
But what is the argument for not starting Jalen Lowe?
I really don't.
Like, I'd love to hear his articulation of it.
Has somebody asked him, Billy?
Like, why is he now not starting J-Wil?
Well, he said that they hit a wall about,
three to four minutes into the game.
So maybe he's looking for that energy spark plug from Lowe.
Who hits a wall?
Kentucky.
He said,
we're actually fine for the first couple minutes of the game,
and then we hit a wall.
I don't know.
That's exactly what he said in the post game.
Well.
And the only other thing was just that there's no offensive flow either.
No, there's not.
No, there's not.
I appreciate the call.
Yeah, I, okay, then bring Jalen Lowe in with two minutes into the game.
Maybe that's why you bring him in two minutes in.
I don't know.
But, I mean, at the beginning of the game, we what?
We got a lay up or no.
I think Aberdeen got fouled.
Aberteen got fouled.
And then somebody hit a three.
Chandler.
Chandler.
It's only best.
Okay, so we were up five nothing.
So we scored on our first two possessions.
But then I don't think we scored again for another four or five minutes, right?
That's correct.
It was nine to five.
So I don't think we hit a wall.
We made two free throws and Colin Chandler made a three.
I mean, it's not like there was an elite game.
I mean, we made two free throws and we hit a 30.
And that first offensive possession, I think, where Aberdeen got fouled was a really ugly possession.
The ball just fell into Aberdeen's hands and then he took the basket and got fouled.
The Chandler 3 was a good, I think somebody drove, O way, drove and kicked.
But I don't understand not starting low, but be that as amazing.
What's next?
Sean.
Sean, go ahead, Sean.
Hey, Matt, thanks for taking my call.
I appreciate it.
What happened to the days where you took,
you just played the best players.
Played the best players, the most athletic players,
the ones that can shoot and play them.
Why wait on people to make changes?
Just play the best players.
I'm confused by this.
I'm with you.
I mean, let's just look in the second half.
For the most part, that's what we did,
and we basically played them to a draw
in the second half.
So the question, why don't we do it in the first half, you know?
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you for your call.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
I mean, you know, I don't know.
I don't know.
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I'm also not sure, Billy, who our fifth best player is.
So I think what I mean by that is, I think there's no doubt that our lineup needs to have.
low away
Diabate
then either Aberdeen or Chandler at the three
although they both have deficiencies
but you probably need one of them
but then is it Cam Williams
is it Quaintance
is it Quaintance and Cam Williams
you know
are you just never going to see Noah again
are we going to I mean what about Jasper Johnson
right like
yeah
I don't know.
I don't know who those.
The only three people I know need to be on the floor are low O'A and Diabate and then probably Quaintance, although he just needs more reps.
Yeah, it probably needs to be Quatins, but I don't know if you can leave Chandler on the floor anymore.
Not if he can't shoot because he kills you defensive.
Or defend, which is weird because last year he played pretty good defense at the end of the year.
but he's he he was bad defensively today i thought oh way i think oh way was on aberdeen kind of
were on phylon i actually thought they did a pretty good job but the rest of it was not good
what's next donnie donnie donnie go ahead donnie so gosh i don't i don't know where to start
Overall, you can, from watching this in my living room, defense, defense, defense.
And I want to go down some another road here.
The coach and staff has got to find a better way to get this team ready.
No hustle, no fight.
They don't play hard.
All right, let's throw that out.
Here's what bothers me also.
Selfish, selfish play.
assist.
Okay, getting back to my defense.
Here's what I don't get.
Kentucky's good on defense,
on the ball.
We are like great school kids
in pick and row.
I would like someone to explain to me
why we didn't switch.
I would switch every
daggone play
because their offense is set up for picking row.
Now, let's take that a little bit farther.
The row isn't there because they're going to shoot the three.
And the shots that Alabama missed Matt in the second half,
they were still wide open.
They were.
You're right.
You're right about that.
A lot of their misses in the second half were open.
I actually think that's a really good analysis.
You are right.
are pretty good on the ball.
Pretty good. Not great, but we're pretty good on the ball.
And then I actually think we play pretty good post defense.
But we are so awful at all screens.
I mean, you know, now they used to be everything was a pick and roll.
Now there's slip screen and fade screen and all these various screens.
But I don't care which one people run.
We're bad at all of them.
And I think you make a good point, especially against a team like Alabama, who doesn't
really exploit mismatches down low very well.
well, I don't know why you wouldn't switch on all of them.
I really don't.
I think we have a pretty versatile group of defenders.
We don't have any real slow guys like Andrew Carr last year.
So I'm with you.
I don't know why you wouldn't do that.
But you're right.
You hit it.
Our problem, I appreciate the call.
One other comment.
Go ahead.
Yes, one other comment.
Get over it.
Get over it.
It was time for Calh to move on.
fans, all the town fans and I love him, don't get me wrong, but it was time for him to go.
Get over it.
Yeah, there is a lot of truth to that, too.
Even if you disagreed with the situation, like, appreciate the call.
It's like when you have a divorce, I use the divorce analogy a lot.
Billy, they ain't coming home.
Unless you're Bobby Petrito, you don't go back to where you were.
He did.
Twice.
Twice.
But, but no, unless you're dating Bobby, like, it.
ain't going to happen. So who's next?
Hunter is next. Hunter.
859-280-2-877. Go ahead, Hunter.
Hey, I'll let other people talk about why we went under all the screens and helped
off shooters and all this, but I got a little bit of comic relief for BBN because I think
we need it. Did anybody else see in the second half the weirdest thing that I think I've ever seen
to coach do what was that coach pope took a stick of gum out chewed it real hard for about three and a
half four seconds and then spit it back out that's the weirdest thing i've ever seen when did that
happen i don't know about eight 10 minutes to go in the game it was weird i didn't see that i will say
and i appreciate to call the best the first three or four seconds of gum are the best yeah right
I mean, you get the sugar out of it.
And if you have a cheap piece of gum, it's only going to last about three or four seconds.
But I didn't see that.
Do you think that's weird, Billy, to take three or four seconds of gum and then stop?
It's a little crazy behavior.
But maybe you just got to get some anger out.
I need to see that clip.
I need to see how long.
Because maybe that's weird.
I know what are the little gums that are in the little squares that you pop up?
It's like they look like little mints.
What are they go? What are those?
I'm not sure.
They're real powerful.
Yeah, you know.
Like you get them, they look like a thing, a Tylenol, right?
You know, they come in one of those.
Mm-hmm.
And then you pop it.
Icebreaker.
I think you're right.
That it?
Those are really good for like seven seconds.
But then they don't hold up.
So, I don't know.
You just need the breath for the incoming kiss you're going in on.
Stub.
Okay, Billy.
Wait a minute.
All right.
Billy.
Stubb, go ahead.
Stub.
So I want to know, how in the world do you hit a wall, a few minutes into a game, a college basketball game?
That's a good question.
I had to listen to the game on radio, and so Billy probably heard this.
But at one point, Jack Gibbons said, I think it was in the second half.
He goes, I wish I could sit here and tell you that these are hard, tough shot to Alabama's making.
He said, but they're not.
And then Tom Leach at one point, they came down and hit a three.
they went under the screen, of course.
And he goes, you know that's what they're going to do.
And then he was talking about the shoot around and the practices
and leading up to that and that all that stuff was harped on.
So I don't know.
To me, that's just inattention to detail.
I think Mark Pope acts the way he acts because I think he,
A, knows that he probably whiffed in this class
and B knows they're underachieving and doesn't see any sleuthing in it.
You know, you may be right that that's the, I think everything you just said is correct.
I appreciate the call.
And I like that Jack, especially considering Jack's on the official broadcast, he will say critiques, which I think is good.
I think you're probably right about that as to why Mark is like he is.
He probably knows that this wasn't built as well as he thought.
And he also probably knows that it's going to be hard to fix.
I still think you judge people by like their actions in times of adversity.
And I still think he's been odd in these postgame things.
And even if it is the case that this team is poorly constructed,
which it probably is and is underachieving,
they can still play hard and they can still be well prepared.
And the fact that these starts are so bad,
I don't know how you can say anything except they're not well prepared.
How can you say anything else, honestly?
I don't know.
And then if you don't like how we start, why don't we play Jay Leno at the beginning of the games?
Why are we not playing Kim Williams?
Again, I've said all that.
Let's do one more and we'll take a break.
Who's next?
Jake is up next.
Jake, go ahead, Jake.
Hey, Matt.
Good to have you back from Holiday Break.
Hope all as well.
Thank you.
Yep, just one observation and then a quick question, I'll hang up.
So I think one of Pope's biggest fault so far is he tends to not trust his own eyes.
And a couple examples is what I mean is last year, you know, we had a big debate about Amari Williams and how many minutes he was playing.
You know, he's playing 20 to 25 a game.
Most of the Bia and I should be playing 30.
And he cited like fatigue as a reason like his play would decrease even though we all do.
that's kind of, you know, not really what our eyes are telling us.
And then this year, you know, if you remember earlier in the season when Brandon Garrison was playing a lot,
and he cited in a post-game presser, I believe, that he's actually a second most efficient offensive player,
even though we all were watching, wasn't going well.
So I think just the over analytics, I think sometimes is hurting Mark,
and I think it's what's preventing him from being optimal in terms of lineup substitutions, that stuff.
And then the quick question is with not playing and starting JQ and low,
do you think this could have a negative adverse impact on recruiting in the future for star players
wanting to come to us because they know that we're not always going to play the best players all the time?
You know, I think it's a question.
I think it's a fair question.
I think probably a bigger issue for that is the fact that we're not playing Jasper Johnson at all.
Right.
I don't think star recruits necessarily would look at Jalen Lowe because he wasn't a star recruit and kind of say one way or the other.
Now, Jaden Quaint's a little different.
I'm going to guess, and I could be wrong, I'm going to guess Jaden Quaint's.
I'm going to guess both these guys are starting in a couple weeks.
But Jaden Quince, I think, almost certainly is because, like, he's really good.
I think the case for not starting Jaden Quince is better than the one for Lowe, which is this guy hadn't played basketball in over a year, right?
So I'm okay with it.
I do think not playing Jasper Johnson, who is a McDonald's All-American,
that could have a negative effect on recruiting.
With that said, when Jasper Johnson has played,
I haven't really felt like he needed more minutes, right?
So, you know, I don't know.
And I appreciate the call.
But I do think if you're talking, I have heard some folks that cover recruiting for Kentucky say
that Jasper Johnson not getting minutes is an issue.
with some of these guys,
because Jasper Johnson's kind of well known
in the recruiting world.
Like he just has that personality,
like he was well known on social media,
and him not playing,
that might actually be a little bit of an issue.
Let me say this.
And nothing with the first caller,
because he was very passionate and all that.
I disagree with him on the,
it's Kentucky fan's fault.
I hate when we don't play well,
and it's all of a sudden the people
who listen to this show's fault,
as if we did anything.
But besides that caller,
I actually thought the calls in that segment were really, really good, really good analysis.
We'll take a break.
Be right back.
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me and you talking, are you at all worried that this job just doesn't work for Pope?
Not yet.
I mean, the caller said a minute ago, I think it might be clear it's not a home run hire.
Yeah, I think that's probably fair, but that doesn't mean it can't work and be really successful.
Okay, it was a home run hire off the court, but that's only part of the job.
And the other part of the job is you've got to win.
Now, I think it's very important to remember.
He went to Sweet 16 last year, and even though the regular season record wasn't great,
we still had some really great wins.
And I think that was a successful year.
This year is not, we haven't even played half our games yet,
so I'm not giving up by any means.
I'm disappointed in the way the roster construction ended up and in these performances,
but I'm not there yet.
what is I am still worried about the recruiting of top talent but that'll play itself out over the next
couple months I am I'm baffled by this team right now but there's still I mean there is still
time there's a lot of time for this to get better I think the ceiling which I thought could be
a title at the beginning of year I don't think that ceiling is there now but I do think this
can still be a good team, but I'm baffled by what's been happening.
So I want to see this season play out.
And I, there's going to be no scenario that I can imagine where I'm like, oh, he needs to go.
I can't, for me, like, I'm not even in the ballpark of that.
But I am in the ballpark of, okay, there's some troubling signs here.
And some of the things I was worried about and some of the things people told me to maybe be worried about.
have manifested themselves here in the last couple months.
Who's up next?
Mike.
Mike, what's up, Mike?
Hey, guys.
What's up?
How are you doing today?
Good.
So, this is my thing, is that, so, you know, I'm that guy, Mark Pope.
I was really excited when he came in.
You know, I felt like that we had an opportunity to really go back to the Rick
casino era, you know, with that.
defense, defense-minded coaching team press, you know, the whole bringing the energy every single
game.
And this to me, honestly, this season pulls down to efforts.
It boils down to who wants it more.
And I don't see a lot of that on the court.
I don't see a lot of it.
And they're just their body language.
Yeah, I agree.
And they're wonderful.
And it's very shocking to me because I don't see.
go back and I'm that dude that watches on YouTube, you know, the 1990 teams and, you know,
and on up, you know, I'm just that guy.
But I just don't understand.
You know, my hope is it just drives me nuts.
I mean, and this is my question to you, do you feel like because of the situation with the NIL
and the team and the players getting paid, the money they're getting paid, that coaches maybe
are losing some of.
that what's the word some of that authority that they should have in the locker room.
Maybe, but maybe, but that means you just have to be a different kind of coach.
So, you know, let's put it like this.
You could be Bobby Knight in the 70s and it worked, right?
You could scream and yell and cuss and demean players and it worked.
I think you would agree by the 90s that style didn't work anymore, right?
Had to be a new style.
Yeah.
And that new style tended to be embodied by Mike Shosheshefsky, Rick Patino,
John Caliperi, this sort of you could be above the program, a larger than life figure.
You were respected.
You could get along with the players, but you were still in charge and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Okay, so that worked in the 90s.
Okay, now we're in an era where maybe that doesn't work anymore, right?
And now you're in an era where you have to do something maybe a more akin to the way NBA
coaches coach, which is a guy like Steve Kerr, who he may bicker with his, but like his players
respect him, but he's also not screaming and yelling at him all the time, like Greg Popovich, right?
Maybe that's the kind of college coach you have to have now. Maybe the way Nate Oates does,
it works. Now, of course, Danny Hurley loses his mind and wins two titles, so I don't know.
But I'm just saying, you might be right that the kind of coach that you need has changed,
but like, okay, now you have to adapt.
And on paper, Mark Pope should be able to adapt to that
because he's not a yeller and a screamer.
Like, you would think he would be good for this era.
He's gone.
You would think, you know, I mean, I don't know.
I look at some, like, just think about who made the final four last year, right?
It was Kelvin Sampson, an older school, old school coach,
but kind of known as a players coach.
Todd Golden, young, smart guy.
John Shire, young, smart guy.
And was it, was DeBama make it last year?
I think they did.
And then Nate Oat.
Right?
Auburn?
Or was it Auburn?
Okay.
Bruce Pearl, known as a player's coach, although he yells.
So maybe you just have to be like that.
But in theory, Mark Pope should be like that,
and it just hasn't, hadn't totally worked.
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jalen low 21 points 8 of 16 shooting three rebounds to assist three turnovers one block and two
steals in 27 minutes. He actually had the second worst plus minus on the team at minus 18.
That was weird to me. I noticed that. I wonder why that is. I guess because he was on the
floor to some during that run they had in the first half. Yeah, that that stat can be deceiving at times.
But he's our moneymaker of the game. It can. No, he was the best player. Oh, he was the best player
for for without question. Who's next? Michael. Michael. Go ahead, Michael.
Hey, Matt, first time a long time. Who are? What's up?
I think a lot of people are going to have their opinions about Pope and this year's team,
but I just wanted to be objective and bring a couple of stats to the table.
So we have played in 34 games against power conference teams plus Gonzaga,
since Mark Pope has become the coach.
What percentage of those do you think we've been down by double digits at some point?
That's a great question.
A lot.
What's the answer?
53% 18 of 34 games so over half that's bad that's really bad to be down double digits in over half the games and we have about a 500 record right against those teams roughly yeah it's like i think it's something like that no that's that's that's bad well it gets worse um so the other one is what percentage of those have we been down by at least 20 points during the game
Oh, wow.
Seven or eight?
Eight of 34, nearly a quarter of the Power Conference games.
So to me, both of those are really concerning, not only for this year,
but I think just in general kind of going forward, and that's all I got.
It's a great point.
Being down, I appreciate the call.
Being down 20 points in one-fourth of your game against Power Conference teams is
really bad.
That's really bad. That's crazy.
It's a crazy stat.
I mean, you know, I think back, it feels like Kentucky hasn't been down 20 to teams very much ever.
And to be down eight times in two years, that's bad.
And I don't know if I thought about it in those terms before, but that's really bad.
Who's next?
Dave is next.
Dave, go ahead, Dave.
A lot of great points, mate.
I'll be quick here.
One thing, you know,
Coach Pope's resume was when he came,
a big talking point was how he leaked his office was and complex and all that.
Last year it really was.
You know, we pretty much were having everything to him on William.
This year, listen, there's no movement.
You take today, for example, I mean, it's either Jay Leno or O.A.
He puts their hand down, credit, and get to the rim.
Everybody else is a sound.
It's been that way all year.
I think that's a big part of the offense problem.
I think that's one reason why we're,
our 3.4% is just so low because the shots are contested.
There's no inside outplay, but, yeah, that 20-point deficit for a quarter of those,
that's bad.
Thanks, guys.
It's a great point.
I mean, everybody's making – that is a great point.
We initiate no offense outside of Jalen Lowe, you know, outside of Jalen Lowe,
and then O.A.
lower in his head and going to the back.
don't initiate any offense.
And, you know, someone said it might have been Jay Billis.
It might have been Jack Givens.
I can't remember.
Those were the two voices I heard.
Somebody said something like looking at their assist numbers,
and we had like nine or something, and they said, what was it?
You're shooting poorly from three.
Well, I'm not going to be able to articulate it.
But the premise was, because we have no assist,
is partially why we're not shooting the ball well,
because we end up taking contested shots.
Somebody said that more articulately than I just did,
but it was either Billis or Givens.
Who's next?
Rob is next.
Rob, go ahead, Rob.
Hey, Matt.
You know, some of the points I was going to make
here lately in this postgame show,
it's starting to make itself more evident,
and you're seeing the fan base more and more
to look to the future with worry.
And I just look at all these games.
He's losing, and each one of these teams
has better players that he missed out on in the portal
and recruiting.
and I just don't see them getting Tyrone Stokes.
I don't see them getting Christian Collins
and as this fan base builds looking towards the future,
do you think that pressure is just going to affect Pope even more as we go forward?
Yes.
Yeah.
I mean, this stuff builds on itself, right?
Like, no doubt.
You know, when things aren't going well, you look to the future, right?
And when the future doesn't look bright and things aren't going well,
that's not a good combination.
So you have no.
No recruits signed.
That can still fix itself, but it's an issue.
We've talked a lot about it over the last month.
And then when you're struggling this year and you don't have recruits for next year,
that is a concern without question.
So, yeah, people should be a lot.
People should be concerned.
This is Kentucky.
Contrary to the first callers point, this is Kentucky.
This is what you get.
This show will go up.
It will be one of the eight or nine most listened to podcasts in America sports podcast tomorrow.
That's what you get when you come to Kentucky.
If you don't want that, go somewhere else.
All right.
But when you're at Kentucky, that's what this is.
And so you're exactly right.
It's a concern, and I think you're reasonable to be concerned.
Appreciate the call.
It's like it would be like Kailin DeBore, if he's complaining right now,
the Alabama football fans are mad they lost 38 to 3.
Dude, you were in Washington.
No one cared.
Right?
You're in Seattle.
They got the Seahawks and they got the Cracken and they got the Mariners.
And so Washington is like, you can do whatever.
But you went to Alabama and you got a lot of money to go to Alabama.
And with Alabama comes all that Alabamaness.
Well, that's the Kentuckyness.
And so, you know, the one consistent position I'm going to have is I'm not blaming our fan base for expectations.
and it is reasonable to be a little concerned.
Let's do one more, and we'll take a final break.
Who's next?
How about Bob and Jamestown?
How about it?
Bob, what's up?
Merry Christmas and happy New Year, Bob.
Yeah, you too, Matt.
Tell your mom we hope everything works out for.
We'll be happy New Year.
Anyway, we're in conference play now,
and it's going to be a tough night
and Big Blue Nation for all the wives.
girlfriends, kids, and dogs tonight.
But, I mean, this team doesn't seem to know
the tradition of excellence at Kentucky basketball.
I mean, when you've got two guys that are getting double figures,
I mean, if these guys can't get three, five-pointers in 40 minutes,
I mean...
Three-five pointers?
I just don't understand.
They just don't understand.
the tradition of excellence.
This Kentucky basketball.
What does three five-pointers mean?
Yeah, we got a score and rebound.
Okay.
Make a break to get a shot and get open.
All right.
Well, thank you, Bob.
Appreciate the call.
Appreciate the call.
What does that mean?
I think he means like three or five three-pointers.
maybe let's get them going, but I don't know why the wives and girlfriends of EBN.
Yeah.
See, I gave him a very nice greeting.
Maybe it is the fan base.
That's exactly right.
Maybe the first guy was right.
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Tonight, your Bucks play here in just a few minutes.
By the time people listen to this on podcast,
game's probably going to be over.
Are they beating Carolina to get to go to the playoffs?
Yeah, they will.
It'll be the most bucks thing ever.
They'll win, and Atlanta will win their game
versus New Orleans, so it will make Carolina the division winner.
You've heard that here first.
Is that the Billy R Sports lock of the week?
It is.
That is what's going to happen.
All right.
Well, we'll see.
That game is today and then what?
Seattle and San Francisco tonight for the one seed.
And then my, let's see, tomorrow night's Ravens Steelers, right?
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Are we going on the Super Bowl?
Have you found out?
I mean, they're talking like they're going to send us to Radio Row.
I don't know about the game.
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Okay, all right, good.
Don't give a prediction.
All right.
Who's up next?
Jim is up next.
Jim, go ahead, Jim.
Hey, Matt.
First time, long time.
Who are?
What's up, so?
Two things.
Two things.
I'm the guy that I've watched the games on the radio.
I mean, Tom Leach is, you know, he paints a picture of my mind every game.
Nine out of ten games.
I don't get any subscriptions or anything.
But two stats that I notice don't seem like we have enough of.
One is fouls.
I don't see players getting in foul trouble.
And two is assist.
And I'll just ask your opinion on either of those two things.
Well, fouls, I think, have a lot to do with, it can depend.
Sometimes you're fouling and it's good because you're being aggressive
and sometimes you're fouling because you're being lazy and reaching.
So I think that's hard to make a generalization on fouls.
Assists, I think it's a completely fair generalization to not have enough assist.
We don't run an offense that has a lot of flow.
I think we don't because we can't shoot.
And so I think they believe a lot of our best action has to be individual.
My problem is I don't think there's anybody on this team
that can consistently beat their man off the dribble besides Jake.
Yelan Lowe.
Jasper Johnson can, but he has other mistakes.
But these other guys can't beat their guy off the dribble.
O.A. is physical enough that he can sometimes, like, bull his way through there.
But Aberdeen, Chandler, Cam Williams, all these guys, you have to get them shots.
They can't get their own shot.
Jalen Lowe's the only guy on the team who can get his own shot.
Right.
Do you think we still have a chance to make the NCAA tournament?
Yes, yes, for sure.
I appreciate the call.
For sure.
First of all, the SECs, that was the hardest game.
play in the SEC, and it was a terrible performance.
But let me just look at my little calendar here.
All right, so let me read you the next few games.
Missouri at home Wednesday, should win.
Mississippi State at home Wednesday, or Saturday, should win.
At LSU, they're okay, but that's a game you need to win.
At Tennessee, that's tough, but that's probably your second hardest game in the conference.
Then Texas at home, and then Old Miss at home.
My point is there's winnable games here in the next few weeks.
Now, if we lose to Missouri at home on Tuesday or we lose to Mississippi State at home on Saturday,
then that's a different conversation.
Let's see where we are after that before we go at LSU.
Assuming we win those two games, that LSU games are going to be big to me.
Who's next?
Nick.
Nick, go ahead, Nick.
Just going off your point about the basics, Matt, what gets me is I know that when he's,
when they're not getting out on three-point shooters,
when they are not doing what they're supposed to do on defense,
that's coaching.
They're not getting stopped in practice.
They're not getting told they're not being corrected on the spot
when it's wrong in practice.
And that's terrible coaching.
I'm sorry, but it is.
And Mark is not being a good coach right now.
It is, honestly, it's putrid to me.
And the way that we're getting, like, that stat about 20 points,
that's unacceptable.
It's just not Kentucky basketball.
I'm with you.
And one, I'll quit on that.
Could you say something about the quarterback that we got who got an injury to end the show?
Wait a minute.
I appreciate the call.
We don't have him yet, do we, Shannon?
Billy.
I haven't heard anything official like that.
On everything you said, I agree.
It is poor coaching.
We play like a poorly coach.
team. It is worth noting we will spend a lot of time talking about this Monday, but I do want to
note since I haven't been on the radio. Yesterday and today were massive days for UK football
in terms of the people they have visiting as part of the transfer portal class. They had some big-time
people here, including Sam Levitt, the quarterback at Arizona State. Right now he's ranked as
the number one quarterback in the portal. There'll probably be a couple of people who enter the portal
later that will pass him, but he'll be a top-five portal quarterback. Most
people will tell you Kentucky is the favorite, but Texas Tech is right there as well.
We'll see what happens.
He met with Stein yesterday, and I was told I think they were up in.
I talked to somebody at 1230 last night, and Stein was still meeting with him then.
So, you know, hopefully that worked out.
We have the receiver here from Texas.
We had a running back from Texas.
Tavon Wallace, who is Trevor Wallace's brother from Arkansas.
He's here.
There's a ton of people here.
They'll probably get some commitments in the next few days.
Some of these guys they're trying to get are going to visit other schools,
so we'll see.
But I am excited.
They front-loaded their visits in a way other schools didn't because they had to
because Will Stein has to go back to Oregon to prepare for the next game.
So they brought a lot of their top guys here.
There's an article on Kentucky Sports Radio that showcases like 15 kids were here.
And we'll just have to see how it plays out.
I'll talk more about this on Monday.
I feel very good about where UK football is from a NIL slash portal slash future standpoint.
Some of my concerns I've had about the basketball still have.
We'll learn more about them over the next few weeks.
But football, from what I've learned in the last week,
I feel better about the stability of what Kentucky football
can accomplish.
It'll be up to the coaches to do it,
but can accomplish than I have in a long, long time.
Matter of fact, I would say the ceiling for me now
is higher than it's ever been
because I think structurally,
Kentucky's got a really good situation.
Not the best.
There are teams of better situations, but good.
And the refs share era has a potential
to be good for Kentucky if they do it correctly.
Let's do four more.
Who's next?
Chris.
Chris.
Chris.
Go ahead, Chris.
Hey Matthew, I think
Tayshan would have killed with those five-pointers.
Well, can you imagine how good he would have been
Jody Meeks too?
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
I think our problem is our coach is just too tall.
How many bigs have been great coaches?
They're all plucky little guards.
That's a good question.
Have there been good?
Phil Jackson was pretty tall, wasn't he?
Yeah, he was.
He was pretty tall.
He was probably the best.
I appreciate to call him.
You're right.
They usually are.
I mean, think about the best college coaches, Billy, they're all little guys.
Yeah.
It's interesting.
Why do you think centers don't become coaches?
Is it just a stereotype that really tall people can't be smart?
Maybe.
Can you think of a really good, tall college coach?
Hmm.
Who was the old Georgetown coach back in the day?
John Thompson was very tall.
Yes, that's a good one.
Okay, so John Thompson.
That's a, boy, I can't think of another one, though.
He was tall.
I don't know how tall he was, but he's a big man.
I don't have that.
Good question.
Well, while we're thinking about it, who's next?
Jerry.
Jerry, go ahead, Jerry.
Hey, man, I got two things.
I get off real quick, buddy.
I didn't get to watch the game, but David.
I didn't realize long ago at 21, but I want to have a good ball game.
And the next thing is.
So, missed some shots around the basket, and I thought got beat.
a couple times.
He didn't play great, but he wasn't terrible, but he didn't play great.
But you think the next maybe start in the next game or two to his start low-linked quaintness?
I think there's an argument with two teams you're playing that on paper you should be better
than it than, and they're both in Rupp, that maybe that would be the time to switch and start
those guys.
We'll see what he ends up doing.
Okay, another quick thing, Matt.
I watched Stokes play yesterday, the kid from Washington at Re-Recruiting.
and he's playing a tournament in Arizona.
He plays on the same team with J.J. Crawford,
probably the best freshman in the country,
who is, I think, his daddy, either coaches or sister,
but anyways, he had a bet him and J.J. Crawford got into it.
Crawford told him he wasn't hustling.
So they take him out, Jay, J.J. Crawford told him,
and they take him out of the game about five minutes ago
on the second quarter and didn't put him back in the game.
But the second half, he didn't do nothing but rip the heart out of that team.
He took that game over and second half.
He's 6-8, about 240, and he ain't nothing but a dog, man.
He's great.
He'll be, he's a pretty good call.
He's a great player.
He's got, there are issues that people worry about with attitude and a lot of things.
But when it comes to playing, when his head is in it, he's awesome.
And Kentucky needs him.
I don't know if they're going to get him, but they need him.
Did you find any tall coaches?
Does Bill Russell count?
Yeah, I mean, Bill Russell, I think, though, didn't he just coach himself?
I think he was a player coach, wouldn't he?
He was a player coach.
So it's pretty easy when you can coach yourself and you're really good.
Yeah, right now I'm going Phil Jackson, John Thompson.
Is Greg Popovich tall?
Yeah, yeah, he's decently big.
Wes Unsled?
Yeah, he was
But was he a good coach, Wes Seinfeld?
I don't know that.
I just seeing players that were coaches.
Yeah, who's next?
Two more, Austin.
Austin, go ahead, Austin.
Matt, I think you're super fair with your analysis.
Appreciate that.
I don't want to be fair.
I want to be a fan.
I'm just a basketball, Benny.
I don't have an almost Ivy League degree.
But what drives me nuts is,
late in the second half,
we go to this high, two-man game with Lowe and Quainties.
And it seems like we're running.
they're driving and if it's not there
he's kicking it for a dunk or a three
at least an attempt which we don't get
many of those I wish we'd go that in the first
half oh wait we don't start our best players
so I guess we can't build our offense from
there and move out what's so frustrating
to me is it's like last year
we had a break from the
cow horrific offensive set
and it was like a breath of fresh air
and now it's like we've reverted
to those cow years
and it's driving me nuts
it's like we have to play it by way
with players that aren't as good.
See, that's what has been, what has been frustrating to me is I'm with you.
I feel like we're running a Cal offense and the guys aren't as good.
So it's like we're running in that like the, I feel like I'm watching the Oscar teams without Oscar.
You know how frustrating they could be offensively?
Like that's kind of what I feel like I'm watching.
I'm watching the Oscar teams without Oscar.
I'm in Alabama.
I was at the game today.
Alabama fans were saying,
your team is awful to watch.
I'm like, yes, I know, and I still came to the game.
One more things are.
I'm sick of being in Alabama,
and then it always just,
we go down there in Alabama so much better than us.
I look at Oates,
fighting and passionate and screaming.
I look at Pope.
He's not doing it.
Last thing.
I think the preseason hype was our offense
is going against our defense,
which made our offense look really good,
and it's not.
Appreciate it.
Appreciate it.
I think they ran a different offense last year, though.
I do.
I think that this is not, they are running a Cal offense without Cal players.
I mean, that's what they're doing.
And it reminds me of that, like, imagine the Oscar team where he had Ty Ty.
Okay.
And imagine that team if Oscar didn't play.
So, like, Lowe's kind of like Tai, he can get his shot.
But then you've got, like, a couple other OK players.
some athletes all over the place,
but they just are disjointed.
That's kind of how I feel.
I feel like this, that's what we're looking at.
Always a little bit like Kason Wallace
in the sense that he scores a lot,
but like, you know, I don't know.
That's what I feel like I'm watching sometimes,
and that's hard to watch.
One more.
Who's next?
Bobby.
Bobby, go ahead, Bobby.
Thanks, Matt.
First time, long time.
Who are?
I'm going to close.
I'm going to close the guy out that talked about the stick of gum mystery.
So I went back and found it.
At the five minute, 11 mark, obviously second half, pass goes out of bounds,
Missed Hill by Oway.
Pope has to duck to not get hit with the ball.
During that brief period of timeout, Pope puts a stick of gum in his mouth,
literally 10 seconds, choose it, spits it out, continues.
That's all I got.
All right, I appreciate it.
the mystery solved.
There you go.
Some other good tall coaches real quick.
Larry Bird.
Oh, yeah, of course.
He can coach very long, but he was pretty good.
Pop was 6-4.
I'm 6-4.
Does that count?
6-4 is tall, yes.
All right, but basketball, it's not that tall.
But, but okay.
I guess you're right.
I'm speaking from a radio-border perspective here.
Yeah, I mean, basketball's not crazy tall.
Matt Painter is 6-7.
That's tall.
I'm going to rank college coaches by height in terms of success.
If John Thompson's going to be number one and Matt Painter number two,
unless someone gives me a better one.
Bobby Knight was 6'5.
He's obviously a great coach.
I don't know if I consider 6'5 tall, but I'll put him on the list.
And then I can't think of it.
Maybe you do have to be short.
So Mark Pope has it, if he gets going, not a lot of people for him to pass.
He's 610.
Yeah.
I mean, John Thompson was like 6 8 or 6.9.
So, yeah, Pope might be the tallest.
Now we just got to make sure he's good so that he gets on the list.
All right.
Thank you, folks, very much for listening.
Enjoy the rest of your Saturday night.
I'll be back tomorrow morning doing the ESPN show with Myron.
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