KSR - KSR Postgame UK MBB at Georgia 01/07/25

Episode Date: January 8, 2025

Matt and Billy recap the Cats' 82-69 loss at UGA.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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a, not the kind of game you want in Athens. Ugly game took two and a half hours and unfortunately gets the loss. It is late, probably later than I thought we'd end up on this game. So I hope we can hear from you, 859, 280, 2287. I'd like to hear what you thought about the game. I mean, I think there's probably three things you can focus on. I think the one that seems to be getting the most attention online is the one I'll do second. But for me, the main part of this game was Kentucky just out physical again.

And, you know, I think this has been a recurring issue for Kentucky since the Western Kentucky game. And the good thing is they're such a good shooting team and they play together so well that sometimes they can overcome this. But they've been out physicaled, really, in the Ohio State game, even in the Louisville game, even in the Florida game, even games we've won. They just continue to physical play. They don't like it. They run away from it.

And they've given up, they've had 15 offensive rebounds given up in the last two games back to back, at least 15 offensive rebounds. And it crushed them. I mean, I heard Mark Pope, I listened to. to his comments to the press, not on the radio. And he said, and I think this is right, I actually think Kentucky played some of its best defense of the year in guarding the first shot or the initial movement of Georgia.

I think Georgia took a lot of bad shots. I think some of the shots they took are shots that Kentucky would have wanted them to, but the offense rebounds, crushed them, the loose balls. I thought 50-50 balls, I heard the initial. announcer say at one point were an issue and I thought that too they just were a step quicker and tougher to to all loose balls and you know and then in the second half as things got difficult I thought we got way out of rhythm I mean just Lamont Butler who I thought played great I can't criticize Lamont Butler I thought he probably had the best game of of any of our guys but

there were three straight possessions where he basically tried to take it one on one he wasn't able to finish in any of them. And that's really not Kentucky's game is taking people off the dribble. That's not what this team is good at. And it's just, it was a bad performance. And, you know, the biggest disappointment to me is I think Kentucky could have won this game. You know, if they, if they shot a little bit better, if they were able to be a little bit more physical, this was a game that was there for the taking, because I don't think Georgia played particularly great. but it didn't happen. And, you know, we're going to have to see toughness from this team on the road.

If you look at the games that have been the most disappointing from a toughness situation, it's been the three losses. And then, you know, maybe the Louisville game as well, even though we won that game. But they just, this team does not like contact. And, you know, which gets me the second point, the officiating, I know people are frustrated, and I'm afraid. It was not well officiated. Matter of fact, it was officiated really poorly in two ways.

One, they call way too many files. And they also went, how many times did they go to the review? Like nine times, there's got to be some kind of thing that makes it. Every single time a person might have gotten hit in the face. I don't think we have to go look at it, but they did tonight. But, and it was inconsistent. I mean, I do think that, you know, Georgia, Georgia got more free throws. I think a couple of the calls were particularly egregious.

But at the same time, I also agree with Jack Givens, which is if you want to draw fouls, you have to play aggressive. You have to get into guys. And we just don't really. We, when you watch these players, our guys go to the basket. They avoid contact. And Georgia initiates contact. And when you have a game like today, where, you're, you know,

the referees are whistle happy, you want to initiate contact so that they call fouls. And our guys, I notice this with Jackson Robinson especially, but O'Wea does it, Butler does it, car does it. They try to pull back and almost shoot over the foul instead of going into it. And it causes us to have very few and ones because we rarely draw the foul, and we miss a lot of layups. and I think that in a game like this where the referees are whistle happy, it hurts you. And then, you know, third, there's an athleticism issue with this team that is not going to go away. I mean, we just aren't that athletic.

We watch us when we go up for dunks. We either don't dunk or I think Butler had won the first half where he was barely able to dunk. And because of that, in order for us to win, our offensive. flow has to be good and it just wasn't for 30 minutes of the game there was a little period where we started doing the back door cuts we cut the game to five at one point and i really thought we were starting to get a rhythm and then there was a sequence that i think was ultimately kind of the defining sequence of the game where uh we came down and it was uh it was a five-point game and they came down and they we had the Andrew Carr where they called it a flagrant.

You know, I don't know if it was a flagrant or not. It probably was by the rule, but Carr gave him that rebound. I mean, Carr did not box out. He gets the rebound. Then he grabs him. Now, Sompto missed those free throws. So while it was a big call, they actually only got the original two points. So it went from a five-point game to a seven-point game.

then we come down O'Way gets a wide open three. I mean, he had two back-to-back, wide-open looks. He misses it. They call the foul on Robinson on the rebound. That was a flop by blue cane or whatever his name was. That was a flop, but they call it, and it goes to a nine-point game. And I really thought that if either we could have gotten that stop, if Carr could have gotten that rebound before he flagrant foul, which he should have.

He got out toughed, and we had the ball down five, or even if O way hits that three down seven, I think we had a shot to win the game. And neither of those things happened. And, you know, it's just tough. This was an ugly game. It was a game that, you know, the reality is in the SEC, this year, it's not going to be easy to win on the road in any of these games. I mean, Tennessee lost by 30 tonight at Florida.

Auburn's going to win at Texas. Auburn's probably the best team in the league. Auburn might be the best team in the country. But in general, for Kentucky, winning on the road is going to be very tough. And we're not going to do it unless we're either hitting shots or playing tough or both. And if you look at Kentucky's losses this year, take the third. three losses. We have been out physicaled in every game by a lot, Clemson, Ohio State, and Georgia. And we've also shot 18 of 72 from three in those games, which is 25%. That combination, this team's

just not good enough. We're going to lose if those two things happen. If we give up offensive rebounds and we shoot 25% from three, we're not going to win. So I understand the frustration about the officiating. I don't think it was good, but to be honest with you, I don't think we were winning that game either way. They got rattled on the road. Pope talked about focus and toughness. He used a bunch of words.

I thought his comments were actually really intelligent. But it just, we're going to have to be. better on the road or we're going to have a lot of nights like this. You know, Saturday at Mississippi State, you're going to play a team that is just as tough and probably a little bit more talented. I think they're winning at Vanderbilt right now. It's a big game. This kind of reminds me of the Clemson-Gonzaga won two, where we said, let's get one of

these two. And the Clemson one was easier, and then we lost, but then we went and beat Gonzaga. It's kind of how I felt about this. I thought Georgia would be the easier one, but now you got Mississippi State. I think you got to win one of these two, so I think Saturday night at 830 becomes pretty important. 859-280-2287.

All across college basketball, been a weird night. I feel like there's a lot of these. Tennessee Florida score was bizarre, but I think you're starting to see tears in the SEC, which is that Auburn's the best, and everybody else is going to have a hard, hard time winning on the road, and I think we're in that group as well. 859-28027.

We will take your calls and hopefully get through this together. Cats lose at Georgia, 8269. We'll be right back. It's a local toilet dealers KSR post-game show. Welcome back. It is the local toy dealers KSR post-game show. 859-280-2287. One person writes on the text machine, Matt, I don't understand how we beat good teams,

but lose handily to three bad teams. I mean, it's a fair question. I think it's a style of play thing, right? I mean, I think Duke, Gonzaga, and Florida are all offensively skilled, decent defensively, pretty good, actually, but they don't play that physicality defense. They just try to pressure you a little more. And Georgia, Clemson, and Ohio State try to muck it up. And that is working against us right now.

And I think if we were hitting shots, I don't. think it would work as well. And I think these guys, I think these teams are saying beat us at the rim. All right. Beat us at the rim. We're not giving you threes. Beat us at the rim. And we are soft at the rim.

We miss layups. We don't, our big guys don't take it up and dunk. I mean, we had four dunks tonight by my count where we got either blocked or on butlers, it barely went in. like you know we're just not strong taking at the rim and these teams are saying beat us at the rim and we're just not able to do it another person writes matt is it time to talk about robinson only three points yeah i mean he was bad tonight and he looks scared especially in the first half he he looks scared and and you know that's another thing everybody's got to have every team's got

to have like a star. And he needs to be our star and too often he's just not. And again, I think if you go look at the games that we've lost, he has not played well in any of them. And that's definitely going to be a problem. Now, Billy, this one, okay, this was an actual comment I got. Oh, all right. Let's hear it.

Pope is saying the right things tonight. But we can't allow a world where boosters could give officials high sums of money to have a bad night on the job. If this happens again, he needs to be more forceful with his criticism. Stop it. Just stop it. Yeah, you're grasping a little bit there. I mean, you grasp it.

You think these refs, I mean, that's a federal crime. So I think you're going to need some evidence before you accuse the reps of federal crimes. Listen, when you go on the road in conference play, especially in the SEC, you're giving away six to eight points in calls. That's just how it is. Okay? That's just how it is. And I've said this for years, and I'm going to continue to say it. Anybody that thinks that Kentucky, that refs intentionally want Kentucky to lose are insane.

The SEC needs Kentucky to be good. So if the SEC was going to cheat, it would be on our side. But I don't think that's what happens. I think what happens is refs get caught up in the flow, and they call a style. a game and when they call it physical, that's not what we're good at. And Georgia flops and the refs fell for it. Right? The rest fell for it. But they also were more physical than us. I mean, at the end of the day, listen, I didn't like the officiating. But they called five more files on Georgia or on us than Georgia. The difference is their files were shooting because they take it to

the rim and initiate contact and we don't. We avoid contact. They initiate it. And when you're playing against it with a group of officials where they're calling everything, you got to initiate contact. And we didn't. And so that's, I think, a big reason why they had a lot more free throws than we did. All right. Who's up first? I will say Cal would have gotten ejected from that game.

Cal would have gotten rejected. There's no doubt. Cal would have got, you're exactly right. That is a game where Cal would have gotten ejected. But we probably would have lost the exact same way because last year's team had these same problems, right? Like last year's team had, last year's team had games like this where we just weren't tough enough.

And I, you know, I used to always roll my eyes. At Cal always said tough. But there is something to, too, the idea that you have to go up with two hands and get the rebound. I mean, I like Andrew Carr a lot. He's been great. But he doesn't box out anybody ever. Like that, that possession where I think Carr actually got choked.

You know what I thought about. Yeah. But part of the. reason that happened is did you see how he tried to rebound he tried to rebound by facing him and pushing him not a great strategy that's not how you box out now that ended up to where they fell on each other and you know maybe they're i don't know what they could have called a foul on i guess it was zero but that's not you don't box out by looking at a guy in his face and pushing him like that's not going to work so so i i didn't like the calls but i don't have a ton of sympathy for us because

the game A really wasn't that close. And B, we didn't do the stuff we needed to do to draw the calls, in my opinion. Who's up to first? Kenny. Kenny, go ahead, Kenny. Hey, what's up, Matt? Just looking at the box score, man. Our two starting bigs, Carr and Williams, they combined for eight points and eight fouls together.

Really? Wow. Then, which forces Garrison to, you know, to play most of the minute. I think he put in 27 minutes tonight. Yeah. And he's still too confident. He's too confident for me. He and Williams both.

But he actually played all right. I think he played decently well. For games like this, which are going to be most of our conference games, he unfortunately, not to crush the kid because he seems like a good kid, but he might be our best option because he is the most physical, gritty big that we have. And you would think that Amar Williams, for his size and his athleticism, he should be the answer, but he just can't stay out of foul trouble.

I think he can't. He can't. He can't. He's like 13 minutes tonight. No, you're right. He, uh, and I appreciate the call. He can't stay out of foul trouble. And Carr doesn't like the physicality.

I mean, it's clear. You know, Butler, Butler doesn't see, I don't feel, I feel like Robinson and Carr and Williams do not like physicality. And I don't, O-A is kind of, he plays like, Like he goes strong, but he also still will avoid contact. I just, man, I wish our guys would like go at it and go with the rim hard. And did you see this Auburn player just missed his first free?

He made 71 straight pre throws, Billy, and he just missed one? No, that's a tough break. I've been watching the TGL. Do you like that? I watched that. It's pretty horrible. And I'm a big golf fan. And they need some work.

Yeah, I didn't enjoy the few minutes I watched. Who's up next? Christian. Christian. Go ahead, Christian. Hey, Matt, what's up? I was there tonight, and two things I noticed. I was actually on the front row, like, in the corner across from Georgia's bench, which

is the closest I've ever been. And you notice, like, a lot of different things when you're that close. Yep. And Jackson was in my corner, the entire second half. Like, that was the corner that he was defending in. And, man, we got to figure him out. Like, he's just not. he looked like a zombie guard in his guy the entire second half and it's just up close like that.

It was really concerning. And then secondly, seeing our guys, our big guys specifically down low, Williams and Carr both reach with their arms to get rebounds. Yes. The guy's point earlier, I think it was Kenny said it, like Garrison at least uses his butt to box out, which is why he can get the rebounds against athletic guys. Like that dude, I forget his name, he's the lottery pick of theirs. Like he was just able to go right over Williams and Carr.

Like those guys have to get their butts into them. They don't box out. I mean, they do not box out. I'm really surprised how little, and I appreciate the call. Those two guys specifically, they do not box guys out. Most of the time when they get beaten on rebounds, they're just not in position. like the other guy has better or equal position. You know, I'm not trying to pick on Carr because we wouldn't be good without Carr.

He's, he has played well. He's an offensive option. I almost wish he would shoot more. But he never puts his butt, to use your phrase, he does not put his butt into a guy and find a body. And it, and it kills us on the glass. And Amari's the same way. It's really strange.

I don't think I've ever seen big guys who do that. As far as Robinson, you know, he did seem out of it. And Pope almost acknowledged that in the post game. And he said, we got to figure out how to get him focused. But they do, I mean, because that was a major, major issue. Who's next? Yeah, he was putting up shots after the Florida game, too. So he must be in his head a little bit.

I don't know. I mean, you know, he didn't, it's like he missed three threes early in the game, all of which were relatively open. And it was like from that moment on, he was just out of it. And, you know, I don't know, man. I hope he's not one of these guys. Like, if you don't hit your first shot or two, it's just not happening. So we'll see.

Big W is next. Big W. How are you Big W? How are you, Big W? Do you hear me? Yes. First and foremost, how pathetic is Tennessee doing that? They only made, what did I see?

They only make 10 field? for the game or something like that? Tonight could be a lot worse, right? Yeah, I mean, that's, I didn't watch it, obviously, but that's an amazingly bad performance. But go ahead. Pope as a coach, as a leader, you know, we took the loss night,

but what, I mean, he is, he's 10 out of 10. We're in very good hands with him, and what he's doing with his roster right now, and they're going to be learning from every loss will be just fine. but he's a great coach and we're going to have a tough road with the SEC and Jackson Robinson. Pull. You know Mark Pope's pumping his tires.

He doesn't seem like a negative coach, right? It's almost like we need the fan base to tweet at him or something. I mean, just get a tires going. He looks like not confident out there. Yeah, he does. I agree with you. He does look lost and that's unfortunate. I mean, Pope, you know, Pope's known that kid long.

than he's known anybody on the team. So, I mean, presumably he'll, oh, I know. He's got the best chance to kind of get his, his buttons push. But, you know, I will say this, too. This is how Pope's teams at BYU were, though. Remember, we've talked about this. Like, they beat, they beat Kansas, uh, they beat Kansas by like 20 in Lawrence and then lost by 15 at home to Central Florida the next game. Like this is just, they throw up some duds. And, and I think we're seeing that right now. We played a great game Saturday and kind of threw up a dud tonight. We'll see against Mississippi State. Thanks for all you guys do. All right. Appreciate it. Texas is trying to make a comeback here against Auburn. Did you see this play right here?

This is a wild play. Got tried to throw it off of the Auburn player and then it went off his own foot. That was a tough break for him right there. But Auburn had a 20-point lead and it's down to five. Who's next? Clay is next. Clay, go ahead, Clay. I was at the game tonight, Matt. The body language of everybody playing tonight, it just, it wasn't there. We weren't moving around like we have been in the past. I mean, a lot of the time, we were just standing around the majority of the time. Well, we had a defender just standing on top of us that we couldn't pass the ballroom.

Yeah, there were three possessions. At the end of the first half, there were three. Three possessions in a row I saw where Kentucky didn't get the ball inside the three point line until either didn't get it at all or didn't get it all until under five seconds on the shot clock. You know, that's a little bit of an example of what you're talking about. So one thing that, I mean, it was their Super Bowl, of course. You know, everybody was there. The student section was packed out.

And then they were actually, when they couldn't find a seat down below, they were actually going all the way up to the unsold seats. at the top. So, I mean, it was just, it just didn't feel like we had the effort that we needed that we've had in the past. Totally agree with you. I appreciate the call. It feels like to me this team plays off the positive energy of our fans, but the great teams have to play off the negative energy of the other teams fans. And this team so far this year hasn't done a great job with that. 859-2-80-2287.

Let's do one more, and we'll take a break. Who's next? Todd is next. Todd, go ahead, Todd. Hello, Matt. I'm really disheartened in this team. From beating Duke and then Gonzaga, I was just really had high expectations on this team.

But tonight, it appeared to me that, Jackson Robinson looked like he would assume to be anywhere and out there on that floor. Well, wait, if you say you had high expectation, I mean, you're not giving up, are you? I mean, look, we just beat Florida Saturday, and they beat the number one team in the country by 35 points tonight. Like, you can't give up.

Well, I'm not giving up. I'm just really disheartened with the way we play. we've been playing lately, you know. Well, we played really well Saturday. I mean, look, I'm down on this game too, but let's put in perspective, right? Like, we, we did not play well tonight. I think we, and I think there are issues with this team that are going to continue to happen. But when you say, like, you're disheartening the way we're playing, we just played one of the best games we've played in forever on Saturday.

Well, that's true. That's, yes, that's true. but I just thought we might not lose but four or five games this year back earlier. Yeah, maybe, but this is the best SEC probably in the history of the conference, right? Like, this is probably the best SEC ever. We're going to be playing, you know, we're on the road in these games. Like, I expected us to lose. I mean, I didn't necessarily expect us to lose tonight.

but I still think we're going 12 and 6, 11 and 7 in conference. So there's going to be more of these. Yeah. And I thought that Georgia wasn't that good a team, you know, and I'm thinking good. Georgia beat Vandy's liable to be this at Vandy too this year. Well, I mean, look, I think we can lose any road game. I appreciate the call.

I think we could lose any one of them. I also think that we could pull in. upset in any of them. So, you know, we lost tonight. I think we could win at Mississippi State. We also could lose by 20 if we're not careful. Like, you know, we can't take anything for granted with this group because it's, you know, these games are going to be really, really hard.

Oh, that's a tough break. Last 10 seconds of Arkansas guy. The Auburn guy? Yeah, Auburn guy. I hope that dude's not. I mean, they're really good. Like, this is an impressive performance. at Texas.

And even the one game they lost at Duke, they could have won. Like, yeah, this is, I mean, they're good. All right, we'll take a break. 859, oh, they just hit knees. He's okay. 859-28027. We'll take a break. We'll be right back.

This is the local toy dealers, KSR post-game show. Welcome back. This is the local toy dealers, KSR post-game show. You know, going into this game in the Kempom, we were still like 19th in the country. And, you know, there's a part of me that still thinking, that might be kind of where we are. But I don't know, because as soon as I think that, then we do a thing like we beat Florida.

But I just think this is going to be our year. I really do. I just think we're going to kind of be up and down and up and down and up and down. I kind of feel like that's going to be what this season, what this season is. We'll see, you know, Saturday will be an interesting test. If you win Saturday, then this game doesn't really matter. And then you get two, I mean, remember, after Saturday,

we got two important home games. a row. We got A&M and Alabama, both in Ruff. Like, you can't, you can't let stuff slip. If you're going to lose this one, you need to, you got to get it back here somewhere. Now, did you say you broke the phones, Billy? They're working for the most part, but it's like once every four or five callers, it's just complete static and it keeps happening to the same people. So I don't know if it's a. So maybe it's their phone. Maybe. I just blame myself before I blame our beautiful callers. But I think usually you don't.

Usually you always blame somebody. Well, not today, Matt. You know, we got to bring the mood up tonight. Yeah, thanks to the people, by the way, who came to the bar to watch the game. We had a pretty good crowd considering the weather. Everybody kind of deserted. I understand as the thing went on. But it was nice to see people out.

And yeah, so it was good. Who's up next? Chili. Chili. How are you, chilly? I'm doing great. How are you doing, Matt? Doing good.

What's up? So you already answered a bunch of my questions about the physical. out and play it on the road. So, like, one of the big things I was worried about with Mark Pope coming in was how would he respond to, like, you know, some random Tuesday in January, February loss. I think this Mississippi's take-in can really define the season. How do you think this team will come out this week or this Saturday? Well, I mean, I think they'll come out and play well. I mean, you know, play hard.

Look, I don't think any, I don't think this team, I'm not worried about at any point them giving up. I mean, the good thing about beating a Duke and a Gonzaga and a Florida that tells us, you know, you you can beat anybody right like so you you can go into any game and think you have a chance to win um but you don't think there's a there's kind of a blueprint to beat us in terms of physical yeah there is but there is well first of all not everybody can do it right so like yes there's a blueprint but not everybody has the dudes they have right like they have a six Georgia has a six 11 top 10 draft pick and they have should have been a cat

excuse me what do you say should have been a cat he should have been a good you're talking about Cyril I'm talking about Asa Newell so they got two of those guys right so they got two dudes who are big studs down low and then they had some guys outside

and the first half got hot and hit threes so like not every team has that um so start with that now we're going to see more than our fair of them in the SEC. And I appreciate the call. The SEC, unfortunately, has a lot of those teams. But then you get in the tournament, a lot of these other leagues, they don't have teams

like that. So we'll see. I think Mississippi State is built like that. I want to see us beat a team like that. That's the thing. I want to see us go beat a physical team. You know, we've beaten teams that aren't really all that athletic that play physical, like Western and Louisville.

We've beaten teams that are really talented, but not necessarily all that physical, like Duke Gonzaga and Florida. Now I want to see us go beat a team that is physical and talented. And Mississippi State gives you a chance. But there's not a whole lot of teams in the SEC that aren't physical.

Interesting enough, Arkansas is a team that's not fit. But think about how physical Tennessee is. Now, Alabama, on the other hand, plays a lot like us. So Alabama is a team that will probably have a game that's a lot more like the Florida game when we play them than the game tonight was. Who's next? Sosa.

By the way, I'm really worried when we play Auburn. Johnny Broom might score 50. That dude's great. Sosa, go ahead, Sosa. Guys, thanks Billy, for taking a call. I was wondering if you all are getting some Brock Vandergriff vibes with Jackson Robinson. And what I mean, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what I mean, Robinson's had some good games, though. I mean, he's, he's, he's had, he's had three, I mean, he's averaging in double figures.

He's had three or four really good games. So I'm not, I don't think it's like we haven't seen the talent. Right, right. But what I mean is, I assume. we threw the bag at him. Well, we threw the bag for these guys. Oh, well, yeah, yeah. I mean, now there is.

But do you think we're getting, at least so far, and I'm not trying to beat up on the key? I mean, I don't know. I don't think we're getting our returning event. I don't think you can look at it like that, okay? I mean, first of all, they're not spending your money, right? So, like, what are you doing? No, no, no, yeah.

So what are you kidding? I mean, uh, but, now I mean when we get to the point that there's revenue sharing and stuff that might be a different conversation but um but you know is I think your point which is valid and I appreciate the call which is we thought he'd be our best player and he hasn't been our best play and that's a problem because I think this team and I bet if Pope was honest he would say he built this team around Jackson Robinson will be the dude and he hasn't been the dude

in very many games and for this team to be a final four contender he's got to be the dude so yeah I mean it's a little disappointing but now he's had some big games don't forget that I mean he played he won us the Gonzaga game right? I think

I'm trying to think he played well he played well he played well he played well against Florida but his bad games have coincided with our bad games. And I don't think that's, I don't think that's a surprise. When you look at the three games we've lost, there's been a handful of common denominators.

We have not shot the ball well from three. Jackson Robinson has not played very well. And Kobe Bray has only made four threes combined in those games. I mean, there you go. Four, right? Four threes. I think that's right. He made two tonight.

He made two tonight. I mean, we'll have to look. I think I saw that. I think he's, I think he only has four in the three games total. And two of them were tonight. So I don't know if he didn't get one in the, I'm not sure what happened in the other two games. But I saw that stat he only had four.

Who's next? Michael. Michael, go ahead, Michael. Hey, Matt. This is the first time for me calling this year. And it was funny because I thought I was watching a bunch of kids who stayed too late at the Applebee's having a strip club thing going on.

I was 12. But I was frustrated by them, how they were playing, but I was also frustrated by the refs going, we'll let you play, but then we won't let you play, but we're going to let you play, but then we're not going to let you play. And calling all the tiki-tack fouls and things like that, like the one diving, the one Georgia guy diving for the ball and slid like seven feet across the court and they didn't call it a walk.

Yeah, I mean, I think he got that wrong. I'm just saying. I think it got wrong. I think they were pretty consistent, though, in calling everything. I mean, in terms of fouls. I think there were. But it also looked like. I think they called, I mean, they called a lot of foul.

They stole 45 fouls in that game. So I don't know how much more they could have. Yeah. It also looked like to me that Georgia knows. notice that they were like watching the physical play very, very closely, and then they played it to their advantage. Yes, yes. They were all up underneath the armpit. They were doing all that stuff.

That's what you should do. That's what you should do. Yeah. That's the thing. You have to adjust to the whistle. And that, you know, we used to always, like Cal used to always say that. Now, he would complain about refs all the time. But he used to always say you have to adjust to the whistle. And the moment you see their calling like that, then you got to jump into the shooter.

And I'm not saying you got to flop because I don't like when guys flop. But when you get foul, you got to make sure people know your foul. You got to like yell and do that. Remember, I went to a Calgary practice once and he would have them practice basically yelling when they got hit on and over the back. Right? Like some of that. When you have a refit, when you have officials officiating like they are tonight, you've got to play to it. I feel like they also had a lot of like a sloppy dribbling and things like that.

But on a good note, though, I thought Garrison played good for extended minutes. I do too. I think Butler and Garrison both. That maybe is promising. Yeah, Butler and Garrison both played pretty well. Butler, I thought, appreciate the call. I thought he struggled some down the stretch. But I thought for 30 minutes, certainly in the first half, he kept us in the game.

And then I thought Garrison was good. But I still, Billy, I wish our three-point shooters had the confidence our big men have. I wish our big men would give a little bit of their offensive confidence to our three-point shooters. He just keeps making threes. Matt, you may not like it. Well, that three he made. But he keeps making them. Come on.

Come on. That was not. That's about how they all go in, too. They kind of die off the back of the rim. They do all kind of die. You're right. Who's up next? Tracy.

Tracy. How are you, Tracy? Hey Matt, how are you doing? I'm good. How are you? Well, I mean, a long time, first time. So I'm glad to be here with this night. Here's the thing. I was really pleased to keep my husband under wraps because, I mean, the whole game, it was, well, I mean, as it was.

But then I found myself, you know, I mean, keep your husband under wraps. Like, were you like, you didn't want people to know you had a husband or what are you talking about? No, no, no. In my family, there is no, like, way to control yourself in these games. Oh, okay, I got you. And so being a student at 96, 97, 98, I mean, I know what amazing is. So anyway, I'm just saying that tonight I was, um, It was wild because I always feel like he overhypes things or gets, you know, he's way too into it.

But I wasn't pleased because I felt like things were just on the negative from the beginning. And I appreciate you, as I've listened tonight, for getting me back on the level to kind of have some sense about things. if that makes any sense. Well, I mean, look, we lost and it was bad. And we lost Ohio State and it was bad. But we beat Florida and it was good. And I just think we have to accept. We have a team that is not super talented.

Okay. These are not, I've said this over and over and people get bad at me, but these dudes are not playing in the NBA. I hope I'm wrong. And so, I don't think any of these dudes are playing in the NBA unless, you know, they get a contract for 10 days or whatever. But that's okay.

So here's my question. But I think because of that, we're going to have really inconsistent performances. And we just are going to have to accept that this year because that's what this team is. So ultimately, I appreciate you giving me some sense of balance because I was so irritated. When I find myself irritated, when I have to go, okay, calm down, quit it, stop, whatever, and whatnot. to hear you tonight, giving some level of sense about the play, the calls, all the things that were good and bad. I mean, I appreciate that because, to be fair,

I thought I was going to listen in tonight and hear you just be over the top in terms of some of the calls and some of the things. But the calls, to me, the calls. Yeah, to me the calls. That's too easy. Okay, you know. Yeah, no, agree. People think I just said, and it's nice to talk to you, tell your husband to calm down.

I appreciate the call. But it's too easy to just say, we lost because of the call. We lost by 13 points, okay? We didn't lose because of the calls. Listen, I've been sued by a referee, so I'm clearly not against complaining about calls. But there's a difference between this game was called physical. we didn't get as many free throws as them and here's a handful of calls that made me

I think they got wrong in saying we lost because of the rest we did not lose this game because of the rest we did not play well enough to win now the officials didn't help but we didn't play well enough to win so I'll blame a call when I think it cost us a game

but what call cost us the game tonight I think the biggest call of the game was probably the push-off they called on Jackson Robinson on that rebound where that dude flopped. Because when you look at the time and the score, I actually think that because we didn't really, we didn't make another run after that. And that was a bad call.

But right before that, O.A had a wide open three and he missed it. Like the reason Robinson had to go for that rebound is O'Wea missed the open three. If we make the open three, that call doesn't matter. So that's why I can't. There's only one game, Billy, we lost because of the refs. Two, actually, that I can think of. One was the game that got me sued. That game, a certain referee, cost us that game.

And then the Texas A&M when they called Isaac Humphreys for the technical. That was ridiculous. For slamming the ball. Yeah. That was ridiculous. And that cost us the game. The rest of them, you had chances. And tonight was one of those games.

All right. We got one more break. Is that right? Yep, one more break. Let's take it right now. We'll take a break. We'll be right back. This is the local toy dealers, KSR postgame show. Welcome back. Final segment is the local toy dealers KSR postgame show. Matt Jones here late at night. You know, Michigan is playing UCLA right now, top 25 matchup. And Billy, did you know that game was on? No, I've got LMU St. Mary here.

Yeah, you didn't know it because it's on Peacock. Oh, they did it again. That's a, that's a tough thing for the Big Ten. The Big Ten is going to have some of its best games this year on Peacock, and people won't even know they're going on. Like, I don't think, like this is a top 25 matchup. It's a one-point game, 63, 62, and I don't think most people even know it's on. The Big Ten's TV deal, you know, they do get games like on NBC and Fox, you know, regular TV,

but then you get a game like this on Peacock, and you've got to be. like, come on now. Why are we on Peacock? At least it's the bad games on ESPN Plus, not the marquee matchup. Yeah, this is the marquee matchup on a Tuesday night and there, it's on Peacock. So 859-280-2287. Who's up next? Our friend Madison is on. Madison, how are you doing, Madison?

How are you doing tonight, Matt? I'm amazing. Getting concerned about you. I didn't know if you went to Athens or not. Why did you get concerned about me? because I thought you'd gone to Athens, Georgia. I didn't know. Oh, no, no, I didn't go to Athens.

I stayed here in the snow. Oh, I feel sorry for you. Aren't you in Henderson? Don't you live in Henderson? Yeah. Do you have power? I guess you do. Yeah, I do have.

We had two inches there for a while I didn't have it, but I do now. Okay, good. Well, go ahead. You were talking about, being more physical. What's it going to take for us to get more physical? Because I know we went up against Georgia and went up against Ohio State and they were all fiscal.

I don't know. I mean, they're going to have to not be scared of contact. I mean, you saw when that Somptoe guy was in, our dudes, like, just got away from him. They're going to have to embrace it. And, you know, I don't know. You can kind of hear Pope talking about, we've got to figure out how to do that,

because they have to because they are just kind of getting pushed around down low and you know these other teams are seeing it and they're going to keep doing it. And then, too, you would mention that you thought we'd finish 12 and 6 in the conference. Do you think that's good enough for a bid in the NCAA tournament or not? Yeah, I think that'll be good enough for the NCAA tournament. Yeah, I appreciate the call. I think Kentucky will be in the NCAA tournament as long as they go. go, you know, 8 and 10 in the conference, they'd probably still be in the tournament.

9 and 9 for sure, but they probably, with their strength of schedule, they'd probably get in at 8 and 10. So, yeah, I'm not. But, you know, the thing is, Billy, like, it sounds crazy. Oh, 8 and 10, that's terrible. But, like, you could be decent and go 8 and 10 if you're not careful. You know what I mean? No, yeah, I mean, you could. How many teams are going to get into the tournament?

the tournament. I think their records 11 for one conference. Do you think that's probably? Yeah, we're going to beat that. There's going to be at least 12. But I'm saying to you, like, there's going to be a team in the SEC go like 8 and 10. There's definitely going to be a team go 8 and 10 in the conference and make the tournament. Is it Kentucky?

Well, I don't think we'll lose 10 because I think we'll win most of our home games, maybe all of them. But, yeah, I mean, we're going, like, I mean, there's a world where, like, that's plausible. So that's why we've That's why the Florida game was so important.

And I think the Mississippi State game would really make me take a deep breath because there's hard games coming. Like none of these road games are gimmies. None of them. Vandy and Missouri are probably the two easiest ones that we don't play those until the end of the year. So, you know, it's not going to be easy. Who's next?

Let's do four more. Another celebrity, Heather is on the line. Heather, how are you, Heather? I'm doing very good I just felt like that tonight was a good night I was a good night I was supposed to call because of this morning show there were some things that you talked about

so instead of talking about this crappy ballgame tonight you brought up the name Amos that was my papal's name Oh, okay. Actually. It's actually my dad's name, but he has went by Casey, his whole life for some reason. So, but it also is my dad's name.

Then y'all talks about the vanilla wafers. Yes. My nanny, my nanny, she's 94, she always has the vanilla wafers on hand. I don't think anyone under 60 has vanilla wafers on hand. Like, I think you get that when you're 60 years old. Then they immediately start delivering it to your house so it's always on hand. Because there's nobody right now under 60 who in there, who has vanilla wafers at their disposal. They might buy them for banana pudding, but they don't have them had.

They're just there unless you're 60 years old. Okay. And speaking of deliveries, I don't know if you're saying. my tweet, I tagged you in, but last Monday on December 30th, so he'd been up like a month since. Oh, you got the Mountain Dew delivery. Yes, I saw that. Yeah.

So they sent me, I guess, it was a fan gear package. It had a hoodie, a hat, a tote bag, one of those big, like, insulated cups that, you know, You can put you hot or cold drink. Yeah, we don't have to go over all of it. But I saw you got a big old thing for Mountain Dew, so congratulations.

Sure did. I am one other thing. Okay. You only get two things. You don't get four, but I'll let you do one more. Well, this was just an update about Reed Shepard. You were talking about this morning about him going to the league. He got player of the game tonight.

He had 49. Right. and they asked him afterwards when he would be going back to the rocket, and he said by Sunday. So he'll be going back up. Well, good. Well, I appreciate the call. No, thank you.

Good to hear from you. Appreciate the call. The Rio Grande Vipers he played for. 49 points tonight, Billy. Very impressive. The second leading score on his team had 14. 49's pretty good. I mean, like, I don't care what you're playing, what level.

49 points. pretty good. Three more. Who's next? Pickleball Paul is on the line. My goodness. Are you just trying to get people that, all right, so Paul, don't talk about pickleball. What do you got? I'm not going to do that, Matt. I will say since we got Snowden, I got back on Netflix, and I hate to admit it, but I did watch the show wrestlers, and I have to admit it, I really enjoyed it. Why'd you hate to admit it? Why would you not want to admit it? Like, that's my show. I think you would want to admit it. Well, Matt, kind of where I'm going to now, like, it's still,

Tuesday night it hadn't hit midnight yet and you would argue with me that it was Wednesday you never will agree with me so I hate to admit it you they're good about you that's going to my next point about this basketball team but I did like it man it was really good well thank you I listened to you and you said from day one without even knowing all these guys and you just said it a minute ago and I'm not saying you're crazy but you keep saying that Jackson Robinson has to be the man for this team I totally totally disagree with you I think Jackson Robinson needs to be a good player for this team. So who needs to be the man for us to be good?

Lamont Butler and O'Daygo away are the men on this team. I know, but they play, but they've played, but they've played well and we've still lost. If you look at who, if you look at whose success, most correlates to our team's success, it tends to be Jackson Robinson. I'm giving you that Lamont Butler is going to bring it every night. I feel like his effort is consistent and excellent. And I'm going to give you that Otega O'WA, while he may not make threes every night because he didn't hit any tonight, he's going to bring it and play hard every night.

But this team is going to succeed or fail, in my opinion, based on how good Jackson Robinson ends up being. You may remember last year, I used to say that about DJ Wagner, that I thought if DJ Wagner played well, we could be good. And then he did some, but then he never really became a star. We ended up losing to Oakland in the tournament. I feel like this team can't be great unless Jackson Robinson is really good. Well, good.

Good doesn't mean you're the man, in my opinion. I agree with you, Matt. Jackson Robinson needs to be good. But if Jackson Robinson is great and O'Wey and Butler don't show up, lights out. Yeah, but they're going to show up. I mean, here's the good thing about those guys. And the good thing, and I appreciate the call. What those guys do, they don't have to play well to do.

Like, Butler is a defensive menace. He's going to be that every night. I'm not worried about him not being that. O-Way's going to bring that energy. He leads a team in scoring. But, you know, O-J, I don't know, Billy. Was O-Way-forth on Oklahoma in points last year? Yeah, something like that.

Yeah, I mean, you're not going to win a national championship with the guy that was fourth in points. for Oklahoma being your leading score. You're going to have to get a dude. It's going to have to be Robbins. And if he doesn't get there, then we can still be really good, but we're not going to be like really good.

And if you go back and look at the games where we've been really, really good, with the exception of Duke, where even Jackson hit a couple shots there, but like it correlates with how he plays most of the time. So that's why I'm, I'm saying that is I just don't he we got to have him play well because we just don't have enough pieces without it.

And then we need bray and hit threes, which he hasn't done in our three losses. Two more. Who's next? Trey. Trey. What's up, Trey? What's going on, Phyllis? What's up?

Well, Matt, I completely agree with what you're saying. Dill Pickles, I don't know what he's thinking about. Jackson Robinson, but anyways, let's just move on. Hey, you know, this league this year, the SEC, double-edged sword, you know, but in a way, I kind of like it because, you know, you're going to get your chance to figure out as a coach, Mark Pope, because most of these teams are going to play you physical. We're going to have a chance to, you know, week after week over and over and over again,

figure out how to play through this physicality and win ball games that way. You're right. And not have to live and die by the three. What do you think? Well, I think we're going to have, I don't think this team's good enough not to win unless they're hitting threes. That's just my opinion. I don't think you're going to, this team is not going to beat anybody good winning with twos. Because first of all, I think we've talked about, I think we've got to score 80 to win.

I don't think we're going to win any games this year where we don't score 80 against good teams. So if that's the case, it's going to be hard to score 80 and not hit threes. I mean, you can do it, but you better be pretty efficient. I think we had a game. I can't remember which one it was where we shot crazy efficient from two. But like, you're going to have to be pretty efficient. But I do agree with your point about we're going to get a lot of practice at this. And so we're going to find out if we can figure out how.

how to do it because, you know, the SEC is so physical. And our weakness this year is physicality. So we'll know. And then if we get in the tournament and we play these teams that are less physical, we can beat them. Georgia is the kind of team that we would draw, let's say we're a four seed and we play a 13. Georgia is the kind of team that probably has that same amount of talent, maybe a little bit more.

I want to see us, it's weird. I'm almost more worried in the tournament about the first and second round games because I think when we get after that, we're going to be playing these teams that are really talented, and we'll be able to hang with those guys. It'll just be how good we play.

Does that make sense? No, so, no, it does. And that's exactly my thought. I thought about that tonight. I thought if you can get through those first two rounds, and once you start getting into the later rounds, you have similar teams. You're right.

You're exactly right. You're exactly right. Like I could see Georgia being like, I can see Georgia being like, I don't know, a 10 seed. And you're a two and you play them in the second round. Right. Like I can see that. And that's the kind of team that I worry about. And we're going to get a lot of practice against those teams.

No. And that's exactly why I say double-edged sword. I think it could be ugly and bloody or it could be glorious and you just, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you slam the thing in the ground. Yeah, we'll find out. We'll get another good chance at it Saturday because we're about to play another one of those teams on Saturday. I appreciate, appreciate the call. Thank you. Let's do one more.

Michigan pulling away from you said, Michigan's good. They're 4 and 0 now if they win tonight in a big 10. I think did they I think Arkansas did count Did they beat them? I think they did Yeah I think Arkansas beat Michigan earlier this year

Who's next? Todd is our phone call Go ahead Todd Hey man Thanks for taking my call Not to beat a dead horse But I think it's time for Bray At the start over Robinson

Well you know Robinson Robinson came off the bench at BYU and was their leading score So you know Maybe maybe I don't know. Whatever can get him going. I don't know if it hurts his confidence or what, but he's just,

he's been so lackluster and nonchalant out there. It's hard to watch, you know? Yeah. Well, tonight was hard to watch because you could, you could see him not being confident, and you could see him kind of, I don't want to say wilting, but kind of, and it was hard to watch, you're right, it was.

Those first three threes were not close, and they were all open, and you kind of knew what was going to happen after that. Yeah, and just one thing about the toughness and physicality, when we give up offensive rebounds, when they shoot free throws, that tells me a lot about where we're at. And we've done it in the last couple games. Yeah, I mean, you're exactly right. And we've had another three or four where they should have, like the rebound,

they should have gotten it, and then they've, fumble it off their hands or something. That could have been. We had three free throw misses tonight that honestly, Georgia should have rebounded, and then something would happen. So you're exactly right. Oh, yeah. That's just boxing out.

Yeah, that's just three. It's just three guys you're boxing out, not five. And, I mean, if we're exactly right, stand and expect because we're tall that we're going to get a rebound. I mean, that's just not how this played in this league at all. You're exactly right. I appreciate the call. We got to box out more.

But, you know, they used to tell me when, I played, Billy, finger, elbow, butt, right? Is that, is that it? Yeah, you would, you take a finger to find your man, elbow to get space, and then butt to box him out. And I feel like our guys only do the finger part. They never get to the elbow in the butt. And in Andrew Carr's case, he just takes him and looks at him.

He's points. You can't do that. You got to put, as the guy caller said earlier, you got to put the butt into it. You can do it. you got to put your back into it. Thank you all very much. There's a good reference there. That's right.

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