KSR - KSR Postgame UK MBB vs Auburn 03/01/25

Episode Date: March 1, 2025

Matt and Billy recap the Cats' 94-78 loss vs Auburn.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:02:29 With just two games left in the season, the Cats now 8. in the SEC and 19 and 10 overall. You can give us a shout. You know, it's a Saturday afternoon after loss, so I'd love to talk to you. 859-280-2287. Really an odd day. I mean, I'll be honest with you when I start. I didn't see the last 12 minutes of the game, and chances are you didn't either, right?
Starting point is 00:02:58 Because we lost the TV feed. I was told there was a pretty significant. issue outside of Rupp next to the television truck that caused it to lose all power. So that is why the game was not on the last 12 minutes. I can't remember there ever being a U.K. game in the last 25 years where you just weren't able to watch it. You know, you would think that wouldn't happen, but I guess they lost all power and tried to do other things and just weren't able to do it.
Starting point is 00:03:28 But maybe a blessing in disguise because Kentucky, I think when the power went out was down, what, 18 and we ended up losing by 16. You know, let's start. There's like four or five different things to throw in here. Number one, Auburn's really good. So I will start with that. They are really, really good. You know, Broome did not even have that big a game, and they still were dominant.
Starting point is 00:03:52 The Kelly kid got nine threes, which is the fourth most threes ever made in a game by an opposing player in Rupp Arena. Two of them were banked back to back. which is how, I mean, I knew at that moment we were losing. You probably did as well. But, you know, they were great. They are really, really, really good, offensively, like historically good offensively when it comes to efficiency.
Starting point is 00:04:19 And then defensively, I think they're really good too. And they had a great game playing tonight. They basically said, you know, we're going to play everything outside the three-point line and good luck finishing at the rim. and we were bad at it. And I honestly think this game was lost. Well, it was lost in two phases. Phase one was when we made our first substitutions in the first half,
Starting point is 00:04:45 and then phase two was the last two minutes of the first half and the first four minutes of the second half. Really, there were two phases. And Auburn was great in those phases. As soon as we went to the bench at the beginning, took a couple of the starters out, brought in, couple guys off the bench, they just took advantage. And even though they hit some contested looks,
Starting point is 00:05:07 our offense just grinds to a halt, unfortunately, when we get to the bench. And then in the start of the second half, it was our starters and six turnovers before you even get a field goal attempt up. That might be a record. That may be as poor of three minutes of offense as you'll ever see a group of good players play. Couldn't even dribble the basketball. turnovers that led to buckets, 18 turnovers for Kentucky today.
Starting point is 00:05:36 So just a really poor, those two phases of the game are why we lost. I mean, it was seven to six when they made the sub, and then all of a sudden it was 21 to 8. And then I think it was, what, like a 12, 13 point game at halftime, and it got up to 22 quickly. And, you know, those two runs, you're just not going to overcome it. So those, to me, number one, Auburn's really. good. Number two, we had two terrible phases. Third, you know, some of this is Auburn, the way
Starting point is 00:06:07 they're playing defense. But, you know, if you had told me at the beginning of the season, we're going to have a game where we only make four threes. I might have predicted a score like this. This is just not a team. Kentucky is not a team this year that is going to beat anybody going to the basket. We're just not. Now, you can get buckets going to the basket, but like if your offensive game plan is, we're going to score at the rim. We're just not good at it. Like Oway and Butler just can't consistently finish. We had four straight possessions that I counted basically possessions that were back to the basket shots.
Starting point is 00:06:43 And while we hit some of those against Oklahoma, I just don't know. I mean, it's the least efficient shot in basketball is a post-up. That's one of the misnomer's is that people think, next to a long two, the least efficient shot you can do is a post-up. and our guys aren't great at it. And we had, I think Williams missed a couple, then Carr missed one or two. That was at the end of the first half.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Our offensive game plan, it just didn't work. I mean, I don't know. I mean, part of that is Auburn. Auburn was not going to let us get threes, but we've got to figure out an answer to that because these teams that are pressuring us on the outside and daring us to win at the rim, we're just not.
Starting point is 00:07:24 We missed by my count before the TV broadcast went off, six shots at the rim. Again, if you want to beat the number one team in America, you can't do that. We made four threes. They made 12. You give up 24 points on the three-point line. You're not going to win. Then you throw in 18 turnovers, you're not going to win.
Starting point is 00:07:45 So, you know, Mark Pope said on this show, or on the post-game show right before this, said that we offered almost no defensive resistance, and we're not able to do anything offensively. I mean, he's right. Now, the defensive resistance, we haven't offered much this year. But offensively, that was not a good performance for the first 28 minutes. Now, again, I didn't get to see the last 12. Looks like they got a little better, but still, you're down so much at that point. You know, what difference does it make?
Starting point is 00:08:19 Also, Jackson Robinson is now out for the year. Pope announced afterwards he's going to have surgery Wednesday. I'd actually heard they were going to maybe send him to one more specialist on Monday or Tuesday. We talked about that on the pregame show in New York, a wrist specialist to see if he could, basically they wanted to see can he play this year and get the surgery at the end of the year. And I guess it's been decided even before going to see the specialist that he can't. So he's going to have surgery Wednesday. I wish the kid the best.
Starting point is 00:08:49 I really liked him. I like him as a player. I think he's exactly what Kentucky needs. He can get his own shot, and we just don't have, he may be the only player that can get his own shot consistently with a three. Butler and O'A. can beat guys off the bounce sometimes, but Robinson can get open shake and get a jumper and make it, and we just not going to have that right now. So I hate it for him, but I also hate it for the team. I think I said at the beginning of the year that I thought for us to be great, he needed to be our best player. There were a handful of
Starting point is 00:09:25 games where he was. But we don't have him. So now you've got to look at the tournament and go, okay, we're not going to have him. Now what? And my look at it is this. We got, without Jackson Robinson, I think we got five guys that are really good. Okay. I think our starting five, which is Butler, O.A., Brea, Williams, and Carr is a NCAA
Starting point is 00:09:53 tournament elite eight level starting five. The problem is that without Kirkresa and without Jackson Robinson, our bench is not good. Our bench had five points tonight. Okay? Our bench made one field goal tonight. And I don't say this. Like I think all those kids, they have a role. But then when they're being asked to step into a bigger role than was envisioned for them.
Starting point is 00:10:20 And, you know, I think. I think Anzley Almanor can get you bucket sometimes. I think Brandon Garrison could have good games like he did against Oklahoma. I think there are moments that Noah, Perry, and Chandler in the right situation can give you spot minutes that can work. But to me, we got five guys who can play against teams like Auburn and an elite lip. And we're probably in the tournament just going to have to roll with them. And it is what it is. I mean, to Pope's credit, he did some of that tonight.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I mean, Bray had played 38 minutes. So, you know, there's a part of me, Billy, that goes, this notion that, like, you're at maximum efficiency. He played Bray of 38 minutes. So clearly he knew that there's times you have to do that, right? Only one to make a three. 38 minutes. Butler played 32.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Williams played 31. I applaud that. But that's what this team is going to have to be. Carr played 28. O'A only played 20, but that was because of foul trouble. He had some really stupid fouls. And I'm not going to get mad at him because he had such a good game against Oklahoma. But like the third foul, the over the back was a terrible foul.
Starting point is 00:11:27 He fouled on that three. I don't like the call now that three-point shooters, if you land on their feet, they call it. But they do, and we know it. So we're doing, we're fouling on that so much. Now, Carr's was a bad call. He didn't touch him. But Oway did. And like our guys are not doing what these other players are to draw the foul.
Starting point is 00:11:49 so we're getting killed by it. But those are our five. And I think Pope, I don't know this, but I would think he's going to go in the tournament. We're probably playing 32 to 36 minutes with those. Those are the guys, like those five. They're going to win it or lose it for us. And the thing is they can't have bad games in the tournament.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Like, we need all five guys to play well. O'A did not play well tonight. In the first half, none of them played great except Amari, but they were all okay, but O'A never played well. Let's say OA instead of four gets 15. All right, now it's a game. Let's say our bench, our bench has to score more than five points. I mean, come on.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Chandler had four, Garrison had one. We can't do that. You have to get more than five. Even in spot minutes, they have to get more than that. So, disappointing result, I'm not like, I'm not, you know, doom and gloom. I'd say at this moment, Kentucky is probably still maybe the last three seed, maybe the first four, but probably still the last three losing to Auburn. I mean, they're number one team in the nation.
Starting point is 00:12:58 That doesn't kill you. I think they're still trending towards being the eighth seed in the SEC tournament, which would mean playing Auburn in the second round if you got there in the quarterfinals. I'm looking at this right now. Right now we are in eighth place. Mississippi State and Vandy still have to play, but I think we will have the tiebreaker on both of them. The problem is, Old Miss, they won, and we don't have the tiebreaker.
Starting point is 00:13:29 So I think our chance of moving up to the seven has kind of gone away. So we're probably going to be the eight. Probably going to end up playing that first game Thursday at 1 o'clock. And we might see this Auburn team. in the quarterfinals again. So that's kind of what we're looking at. Tough day. Great crowd.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I thought the energy before the game was awesome. I thought the crowd was awesome. And then it was hard for them to have a lot to cheer about. And they tried, but, you know, you're down 15 in the first half. It's pretty tough. And we now also have a game billy that we'll know as the ABC lost the feed game. First SEC game I can remember on ABC in 20 years. And it also becomes the first.
Starting point is 00:14:13 game they ended up not on television. Yeah, I mean, how does that happen? How does that happen? Well, I told you how it happened. I mean, I know how it happened. Generator fire, right? Okay, I don't think we were supposed to say fire. Oh.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Billy said that for the record, not me. Oh. Why not? Okay, well, apparently there was a fire outside the... Whoops. What is wrong with you? Two for two on post-game shows. You really are.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Two for two. I think they just didn't want to say fire. And Billy's like, fire. Okay. So that's why it didn't come on. It wasn't a fixable situation. I don't know. Presumably, like, I should have been able to see it from my house, like Sarah Palin.
Starting point is 00:15:00 But I wasn't able to. But so now you get, go down in history. We missed the last 12. Can you imagine if this game was close, Billy? Oh, the uproar. I mean, what if this was like? a two-point game with four minutes to go and we could be cuts out like that i mean it would have been probably it's best for everyone at the worldwide leader of sports that that this game was not
Starting point is 00:15:26 close because our fans would have lost it if we had not been able to watch a close game uh 859 280 2287 we're going to take your calls uh billy will tell you more things he's probably not supposed to say that's next here on the local toy dealers ksr post-k Welcome back. It is the local toy dealers KSR post game show. I said by the way that we were in good shape to get the buy. That's not 100% certain because, all right. So Mississippi State's playing Oklahoma right now. Is it Oklahoma? LSU. LSU. It looks like they're going to win. If they win, then we're tied with them. But we do have the tiebreaker. But they have two games left and they may not lose. They play Texas at home and then at Arkansas. We need them to, assuming we beat LSU,
Starting point is 00:16:14 we need them to at least lose one of those. So we might need Cal to beat them in that last game in order for us to get the buy. So we need to beat LSU and then probably need, because if we lose to Missouri, we'll need Cal to beat to beat Mississippi State to move on. So we'd like to wait and see. How about that? First of all, who called it? I called that. You did. game. I didn't think they'd lose. I didn't think they'd only have 20 points with 10 minutes to go in the second half. It was a historic, like it was their, they had the fewest points they've scored in a game since 1988 in the first half. But I knew they were going to lose that game. Cal always loses that game. But didn't think it was going to be by that much. And then Alabama leads at Tennessee,
Starting point is 00:17:00 which would be another one, Billy, that I picked, that none of you all picked. I could be two and on those. You did, however, pick Auburn, whereas we've all picked Kentucky. Who's up first? Tasha. Tasha. Go ahead, Tosh. Tasha. So I was at the game. Shout out to Chris and Elizabeth for suffering through that with us. And, Andrew, if you're listening, I'm not going to switch seats with you. But I've been a season ticket holder for three years. And Mark Pope's first year, aside, you know, it's been a rough stretch of losing all the big games at home that matter. Gonzaga.
Starting point is 00:17:34 We didn't lose all the big games at home. Oh, Tasha, we didn't lose all the big games. We beat Louisville at home. We beat Florida at home. We beat Tennessee at home. We did lose Arkansas. We did lose Alabama. Hang on.
Starting point is 00:17:45 We did lose Arkansas. We did lose Alabama. We did lose Auburn. But we didn't lose them all. For what I would consider big games and rough, we were three and three. Well, the last three years, I'm a season ticket holder, but I haven't been to all the games. You know, I had to sell some of them to compensate for the cost. So I feel like the games that I've been to, and he's,
Starting point is 00:18:05 way the games that matter. You know, before I was a season ticket holder, I was 20 and 0. Like, we won every game, so maybe it's me. I don't know. But it's been a rough stretch, and I'm just going to leave you with one last thing. I'm not going to cuss. But one thing that I left with the game, you know, Doug Shouts, it's like, F you, Doug.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Come on, man. That was rough. But Doug Shows didn't do the game. I thought that was Doug. It was not. So if you were cussing at Doug Shows, he wasn't there. Well, whoever it was, he got an air pool. All right, I appreciate the call.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Poor Doug Shows. She's out there cussing at Doug Shows. He's not even on the game. You're thinking about Joe Lindsay. The first half was brutal from an officiating standpoint. I mean, you know, again, we have to be fair as Kentucky fans. I mean, they called a lot more fouls on Auburn, or at least at one point it was a lot more fouls on Auburn than us. But some of the call.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I mean, the Andrew Carr 3 call was terrible. The Delmont Butler flagrant. The Lamont Butler fray. I mean, that probably technically is a flagrant, but that's not the spirit of the rule. Plus, you didn't even call a foul on the floor. Like, I don't understand how you cannot. There were two calls there that made no sense to me. I don't understand how you cannot call a foul, then decide to review it.
Starting point is 00:19:34 to find a flagrant. Like, if you didn't see enough to even call a foul, why did you even go to the monitor? Now, with that said, he did hit him in the face, and whether I think that's a good rule or not, it is. And then I don't understand the double foul, you know, I don't get that either. How's there a double foul? Like, who calls that? They called the foul on Garrison, went to the monitor and called the double foul, and the reason they did that is they saw that they clearly Broom had fouled Garrison first.
Starting point is 00:20:04 and so they were like, well, I guess we have to call a double foul. The monitor reviews, they got to do something about that. It was a long time. I agree with Jay Bills. Jay Bills is, he is exactly right. Just give, make it like the NBA. Give each coach one review. If he ends up getting it right, then he gets another one.
Starting point is 00:20:22 And then, you know, review in the last minute or something. But like this idea that you have to review everything, like, come on, especially in the first half. Like, just come on, keep going. That first half was like an hour and a half. You know, that's, they got to stop that. Like, it's unnecessary and it takes too long, you know. The review of a rebounding foul for, stop, just stop. Who's next?
Starting point is 00:20:49 Brad. Brad, what's up, Brad? Man, I'm calling to complain about the rest today. I'm just kidding. I mean, there were some things to complain about, but we got whipped. Like, it's not the rest of all we got whipped. No, I'm calling more so about the injuries. I don't know if you read the KSR website article.
Starting point is 00:21:14 I heard of it. Yeah, the percentages, like, I think it's since like 20 or 21 that we haven't had a full roster. My comment is we have to go all out next year. Somehow, I don't know how we can make it happen. no walk-ons. We got to have 12, 13. We had 12 this year. We had 12 this year.
Starting point is 00:21:38 I mean, like, during the Cal era, I think that was a reasonable complaint that we didn't have enough guys. But we got 12 guys. Now, could he have gotten a 13th? I think he wanted to leave. He decided to leave the 13th scholarship open because he thought something would come up in the summer. I guess it did not. In hindsight, it would have been nice to have someone, just someone, in that. You know, I think Mark's going to have to really think about how he builds these rosters
Starting point is 00:22:06 because, you know, you've got next year we already have three freshmen. He's trying to get a fourth freshman. If you were to assume you get Perry, Chandler, and Noah all back, then seven of your spots are being taken up by freshmen and sophomores, whereas Auburn's out there playing 25-year-olds, right? And so. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:33 I don't think it's on him. You know, I mean, it's just weird, fluky things have happened. But I just want to see a deep, like a super deep team, you know, like some of Petino's teams. I mean, they just threw waves of guys that you. Yeah, but Petito was a different era. Patino was a different area. Like, you cannot compare Patino when guys stayed three and four years to now. Now you have to make a decision as a coach.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Go get elite freshmen. or go get 23-year-olds that are pretty good. Now, I think... Yeah, I mean, when you get paid to big bucks, you start making a decision. I agree with that. I agree with that. Maybe you go D2, maybe you go Europe.
Starting point is 00:23:13 You're not going Juko. But I do think we'll see Europeans. I do think we'll see Europeans, and I appreciate the call. He also only had a month to put the team together. So you got to give him a break. He had a month, and we literally had not one player. So, I mean, Cal, remember, Cal left. the weekend of the final four and actually didn't leave leave until the day of the championship game.
Starting point is 00:23:38 So, you know, it's not, he only had a few weeks. So I give him some grace, but I do think, you know, this was an interesting game tonight to watch. It's a minimum, I think our starting five was not as good as Auburn, but competitive with Auburn. but when we went to the bench, it was men and boys, if we're being honest. Starting five, Auburn's better, but we could run with them. Bench, men amongst boys. And so I think we've got to think in the future, like, I think teams, the two teams that have the best chance to win the national championship are Auburn and Duke.
Starting point is 00:24:22 They are built on two completely different philosophies, but they are built on the peak of those two philosophies. Duke is the one and done philosophy, but they don't just have one and duns. They have one and done's like the first six or seven years of cow. They've got three of the top eight picks in the draft. So you can't go get freshmen unless they're going to be three of the top eight guys in the draft. Right. So I look at our freshman next year.
Starting point is 00:24:47 I think they're going to be really good. But do we have three of the top eight guys in the draft? No. So we got to make sure to go get the second way, which is Auburn's way, which is to go get juniors and seniors that are really good, and hopefully one of them is a stud, like Broome. That's what we got to do. Now, this year, I don't know that Pope had the time to do that.
Starting point is 00:25:10 He had a few weeks. But next year, that's why I'm excited for Jasper Johnson. I'm excited for Malachi Moreno. I'm excited for Caden Lewis. But you are not winning a title if those are three of your five best players. in my opinion. So we're going to have to go into portal, always going to be one of our best players,
Starting point is 00:25:34 assuming he comes back, but we're going to have to go into portal and get three or four studs, in my opinion, if we want to really compete next year. And I think we will. I think we got the NIL money. I think they'll probably get at least one European that's really good.
Starting point is 00:25:48 But we have to do that. And tonight is an example. Why? Because these teams, like, as soon as they switch college basketball to where everybody has five years of eligibility, they're going to be teams like Auburn every year. And I think we need to be one of those because I'm not sure that going and getting Cooper Flags
Starting point is 00:26:07 is going to be what Pope does. So we got to go get Johnny Burms. Who's next? Jeremy. Jeremy. Jeremy. Matt, how are you doing today? Doing good.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Appreciate taking a call. Three takeaways. I've been a Kentucky fan for 48 out of 48 years of my life. And three things. One, we got to give Pope. I mean, you just took my thought. He's only been here, not even a year. We beat some behemists already.
Starting point is 00:26:37 But the other thing that bothers me, he seems a bit a little opi from Andy Griffith with his team. And in the fact that you have Lamont Butler, who has been designated as one of the best defenders in the country. But also, the flip side, with his turnovers, too. And him and Oway missing, I could have. The count of 10 layups between the two of them today. And then with Jackson being out, I just think you got to accept what we did good this year
Starting point is 00:27:06 and hopefully get some luck in the tournament roll on. But this has been. But when you say like when you say like Opie, like what do you mean? What do you want him to? I mean, like what is it you want him to do? You know, it seems like the team has taken a little bit of his charisma and it kind of a soft, I would say a little bit soft spoken, a little, not as tough on the, on his. players as we're used to.
Starting point is 00:27:30 But you don't know, I mean, to be honest, though, he's not, that's not who he is. And I think you hit the key word as we're used to. Okay, but like, there are many different ways to, there are many different ways to coach a team. Okay, you've got, and there's a lot of ways it can work. Danny Hurley and Cal and Bruce Pearl can scream. John Shire barely talks, and his team's really good, right? Like everybody's got to, you know, Brad Stevens went to. the national championship game back to back years and he barely said a word on the sidelines.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Like everybody's got a different way of doing it. Matt, that's a really good point. But with this team is they lack three things. And it seems like it comes directly from the coach. There's physicality issues. There is defensive, especially defensively, that we're not up in anybody. We kind of, we're not good defensively. Like I think he's, I think he's coaching the team he has.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Now look, he doesn't always get the excuse of your coaching the team you have because in today's college basketball, you build the team. I'm giving him a break this year because he only had three and a half weeks to build a team. But in general, like our guys are not good defensively. So part of the reason I talk so much about offense is I've accepted we are not going to beat teams defensively. We're just not. These dudes are not good defensively. but we can score a lot, which is why our offense has to be crisp and efficient. And tonight, for the first 30 minutes, it was not.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Matt, I'll agree with you on one thing is that it looked like Auburn had definitely took away. Obviously, as you mentioned, that kills me is that we missed so many darn left and bunnies at the rim. But even at our best, we're not putting up the threes that we're accustomed to, especially from Mark Pope earlier in the season. I mean, who figured what out, but they took it out from us. Yeah, I appreciate the call. They took it away from us. And so your job as a coach.
Starting point is 00:29:39 And again, they're really good. Like, they're really good. I think if they played like they did tonight, it was going to be really hard for us to win no matter what. But I wish this game had been competitive. Because if we're honest, it really wasn't for, I mean, we cut it to like eight a couple times late in the first. half, but we were down double digits, 30 minutes of the 40 minutes of the game.
Starting point is 00:30:05 And so that's the part that's frustrating to me. But we have like, against great teams, against Alabama, Auburn, we have no margin of error on offense. We have to be great offensively, because we're not going to be good defensively. We have to be great. We cannot have 18 turnovers. We cannot go four for 17 from three. like we have to be great.
Starting point is 00:30:29 We can't have O way, you know, have four fouls within the first three minutes the second half. Like we just can't do that. And we did tonight, and that's why the game wasn't competitive. Who's next? To that point, Goose said they looked rattled on offense and they didn't have a clue of what to do at times.
Starting point is 00:30:45 I did not. And that surprised me. This is the first time all year. Even when we've played bad, I never thought we looked like Cal's teams often did, were they just staying around and don't really know what to do? We did tonight. I think Auburn switched everything,
Starting point is 00:31:02 but they're not the first team that's done that to us. Auburn switched everything, and we just couldn't. Then in the second half, we started, from what I could hear on the radio, it sounded like we started being better. But in the first half,
Starting point is 00:31:17 we could not get anything going. We tried to take guys one-on-one, which is not this team strength, and it just fell apart. The offense, you know, obviously the six turnovers at the start of the second half were bad. But at the first half, even though we scored, I just felt like most of our points were free throws. Like we just, we look discombobulated. And I was really surprised to see that.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Who's next? Nate. Nate, go ahead, Nate. Yeah, Matt, speaking of what you're just talking about, that the one-on-ones were not us tonight. Even with Amari bringing the ball up. You got poked multiple times, even stolen a couple times. I just wanted to touch on the point of five points off the bench, Colin Chandler, with the only field.
Starting point is 00:32:02 You can't sub-in players to only play sub-party defense. They have to play some type of offense. You know, not-man-name team. You can't play. No, I mean, I'll say it. You cannot play Travis Perry and Trit Noah if they don't score. I mean, you just can't. And the same thing, and all the North is the same way.
Starting point is 00:32:22 All three of those guys. You cannot play those guys if they're not score. because they're going to kill you defensively. So you're going to have to score. And Garrison, he was better defensively against Oklahoma, but he's not a good defender either. So Colin Chandler's a decent defender, but like you can't play those guys if they're not going to score. So they got to score, you know, and they got to, and tonight they did. Exactly, Matt, man.
Starting point is 00:32:51 And even to touch more on that, you know, it's just even one still go off the bench is, Colin Chandler. So, yeah, I mean, he's the way. Let the guy get more touches. Yeah, as odd as it is to say, and I appreciate the call, as odd as it is to say, because I, four weeks ago wasn't even sure Colin Chandler could play here. He and these games against his teams at least has not looked scared.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Well, it's not really fair. I don't think Travis Perry's looked scared too. I just don't think he can guard these guys right now. And so, there's just guys look so timid. Anzley Almanor, man, like, if you're in the game, shoot. These guys who, like, you know, Butler did it a couple times, Braia in the first half, like, what are we waiting on? We're not going to get a, if you have a look from three, we are not going to get a better shot than Braya from three.
Starting point is 00:33:47 And the idea that they pump fake, it's like, shoot. That's against the team like Auburn, that's the best we're going to get. Let's do one more and we'll take a break. Shad. Shad, what's up? It's Shod, actually. All right, shot. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Now, Matt, I tell you, I get a big kick out of listening to you because you've got great energy and enthusiasm and you have a really good sense of humor. So I really enjoy hearing your program. And I want to compliment Mark Pope, and that is a classy guy. I think Kentucky's in great hands with him in the long term. I did want to say something, though, a couple of years ago. said some very uncomplimentary things about Auburn. I was wondering if maybe Billy could bring himself to say something nice today. Well, he did pick Auburn.
Starting point is 00:34:39 He was the only one on the show to pick him. So, Auburn, Billy, do you want to say something nice about Auburn? About Auburn? Yeah. Did you say something mean a couple years ago? I don't remember that. He did. And I don't remember exactly what it was, but it was, you know, it was really kind of mean.
Starting point is 00:34:53 So I was going to give him a chance to redeem himself. All right, Bill. Appreciate the call. Do you want to redeem yourself with Auburn fan? No, I don't care what Auburn fans think of me. But, I mean, I've got plenty of things I need to redeem myself for, but that is not one of them. You've got a tough week. So I don't know if the Auburn fans.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Well, I will say this to Auburn fans, if you're listening, including that guy. You guys are really good. I mean, that's a really, really good team. I was sitting there thinking, you know, non-Kentucky teams in the SEC in the last 15 years. How many have been better than this Auburn team? I mean, last year's Alabama team went to the Final Four, and I think they were good, but this Auburn team's better than that Alabama team was last year. You know, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:35:40 When's there been an SEC team better than this Auburn team? You know, maybe Florida one of those years that year they made the Final Four? No, I mean, definitely that NOAA team, but that was 20 years or 18 years ago. That NOAA team was better. I don't know. I mean, you might have to go, but if you're taking away Kentucky teams, you might have to go back to that NOAA team
Starting point is 00:36:06 for the last time there's been an SEC team this good that's not Kentucky. Yeah. I can't think of it. Florida went to the final four in like 14 maybe. Was that team really good? Florida had one really good team in like 11, 12, 13 sports, something like that.
Starting point is 00:36:24 They had a really good team. One of Billy's last teams was really good. but I want to say it was 14 maybe but but this one probably got to go back to Noah to find one as good as I think this Auburn team is we'll take a break 859-280 27 be right back to the local toy dealers KSR post game show welcome back it is the local toy dealers KSR post game show you know sometimes Billy I can't remember like the easiest things like people's names that I've known my whole life and the other day I was completely bull blanking on my social security number. You know, I know, like, I know, I know, but it was like, I get it confused with my phone number sometimes. But anyway, but then you can remember things like I was right about the 2014 Florida team. Oh, that was right. That was the right year.
Starting point is 00:37:19 It was 2014. They went 36 and 3 that year and lost in the Final 4. They lost a Yukon right before we lost to Yukon. They went undefeated in the SEC. So yeah, I was right about that. The 2014 Florida. So I would say this Auburn team is the best since that 2014 Florida team. Because that team was really good.
Starting point is 00:37:45 I can't remember who they had. They had like one really, really good dude. We were in the Final Four in Houston. We played like, well, we played, no, wait a minute. Who did we beat in the semifinals? Because they lost to Yukon. Who did we beat in the semifinals in 2014? I am not sure.
Starting point is 00:38:05 I was going to look up the Florida Gator Rush. That was our run. So we beat Wisconsin. That's right. So we beat Wisconsin in the Final Four. Aaron Harrison hit the shot, played Yukon, who beat Florida. And that Florida team was the best team in the Final Four. But Yukon upset them and then, of course, beat us as well.
Starting point is 00:38:22 All right. Who's up next? Heather from Louisville is there from Louisville how are you Heather I'm great how are you good what's up uh I wanted to say Pope we all thought whatever he wasn't going to be good but you know our team is doing great but I also wanted to call in because I'm giving a shout out to Heather from Pike County and I am wanting her. I have already been messaging messaging her. She needs a call in and I've been asking me. I talked to her today. I talk to her. I talk to her. I talk. And I'm very, I should have also no, I've always, I should have
Starting point is 00:39:09 gone with Ryan. Ryan chose Auburn and unfortunately I chose Kentucky. But you know what? It's It's been a great year, and it's been exciting. I appreciate the call, Heather. I talked to Heather from Pikeville. She is going to call in, not today, but before the years out. So I think she's willing to, if not forgive Billy, at least move forward in a positive manner. So that's some good news. I reached out and apologized, and I gave her the hotline number so she can join the show whenever she wants.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Good for you. Look at you. We're seeing growth here. You apologized. Yeah, but I'm still not letting college on three shows in a row. That's too many. I will stand by. Tennessee and Alabama, it's a four-point game.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Very cool. Dick Vital, part of the broadcasting crew, is getting a standing of ovation as we talk right now. I'm glad. I don't know if he'll do another year, but I'm glad he's getting to do these runs. Wish he could have come to Rup for one of them. But hopefully he'll be back next year.
Starting point is 00:40:10 But if he's not, it's very cool that he's getting to do this year. Who's next? I haven't heard from him in a while. Bob and Jamestown is up next. Bob and Jamestown, how are you? 859, 280, 2287. ABC TV dropped the ball, not only UK. I mean, I can't believe it.
Starting point is 00:40:30 They have a blockbuster game. We got the number one team in the SEC coming in there, and then they did. Well, to be fair, they had a fire. There was a fire outside of their production. truck and it burned the power off. So in some respect, I mean, it is a mistake, but like, I don't really know what you wanted them to do after that. I thought maybe the ice cream machine broke that or something.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Anyway, I can't believe, 37 years. This is why this is going on finish. Since Auburn, 37 years since they've had a UK win, I guess they're a basketball school now. Anyway, this year anyway. but and then another thing about ABC at halftime they said had a lot of thing up there at Arkansas issues but then they never addressed it what's going on
Starting point is 00:41:22 at Arkansas yeah I don't know I appreciate the call Bob thank you very much I mean I'm being nice oh yeah it's yeah it's I mean we lost by a lot I'm going to stay in a good mood I'm gonna go eat dinner when this is over and it's gonna be great. Who's next? John is next. John. What's up, John?
Starting point is 00:41:47 Hey, Matt, how are you doing, man? Doing good. How are you? Thanks for talking call. I'm doing good, too. Listen, I'm from LBL, and I've been reading online these people that keep saying all this stuff about the Kentucky boys, Trent Noah and Travis Perry. They keep on saying that they're awful, and they don't deserve to play or even be on the team and that they've been a waste of scholarship spots. and in my opinion, there's nothing like the Mountain Mamba
Starting point is 00:42:17 and the Lion King getting on that court and living out their dreams. But they do have to score more than one point. I mean, I, if those guys, and listen, they've had some good games this year. Noah had a great game against Tennessee. I think Perry has gotten better his years going on, but I, you know, love those guys.
Starting point is 00:42:36 I watched Travis Perry since he was in eighth grade, and Noah's from right next to my hometown, so I pull for them. With that said, I don't care where they're from. I don't care if they live in Rupp Arena. If they're going to play here long term, they have to produce. That's true of every player. That's true of every player. So I think when you take up for those kids, which we should, we all want them to succeed.
Starting point is 00:43:02 But we also have to grade them on the scale of UK players. And while I think they've improved a lot, and while I think they both really do have a chance to play here and be successful, we can't just, I mean, they scored one point. We can't just be like, oh, well, they're from Kentucky, so it's great. Yeah, and I mean, the thing is, do you think they're going to develop at all? Because, I mean, when they were playing in high school, they're just playing against, you know, future Walmart employees. I mean, if you look at the caliber of the people. I do think that they can.
Starting point is 00:43:34 I think they both can play here. do I think either of them can be I don't know what their peak is I do think both of them can be quality rotation guys here I think the situation has probably forced both of them to have to play especially Perry maybe more than than he is ready to at this point but but at the same time look this is Kentucky right like you there's no if you want to play here here, you got to be really good. And that's my thing over the years I've been doing this 15 years. I've been getting phone calls about whoever the Kentucky kid is on the team, playing more. And then I get messages weekly about some kid that lives in Kentucky that people go, why won't they recruit them? And my answer's always been the same, which is they got to be good enough to play here.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Okay. So we've had some. Derek Willis was good enough, but Dominic Hawkins. was good enough. But remember, those dudes were, for the most part, always in a reserve role. Always. Will us, I think, started a little bit towards the end. But they were always in a reserve role.
Starting point is 00:44:47 So we got, like, that may be what Noah and Perry are. Maybe they end up starters. But, like, there will come a point where we will ask them to score more than one point in a game. Who's next? Future Walmart workers was a little harsh, too. I think that dude was kind of being a joke. But I, you know, but the VAT, the. The point he's saying is one that I do think people, you know, everybody wants them to succeed.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Everybody. Nobody more than me. Who's next? Tyler. And they're both great kids, by the way, both of them. Tyler, go ahead, Tyler. Matt, it's good to talk to you again. We've got to be honest with ourselves, though, after that guy banked in, the two-threes.
Starting point is 00:45:26 I feel like we all knew that it wasn't our night. Yeah, the first one was bad enough. When the second was banked in, I said this and ain't going to happen tonight. Yeah. And I started watching Kentucky basketball when Cal got here, and I was really not old enough to remember a team until probably the 2014 team. And so I'm very spoiled when it comes to March runs. But, man, I'm, with Robinson out, it's looking like we're going to have to wait probably at least one more year for a March run.
Starting point is 00:45:54 But why do you say that? Like, I mean, maybe, but there are teams every year in March that make a run that aren't very good. You think NC State was really good last year? I mean, NC State had to bank in a three to even get to the quarter finals of the ACC tournament. And then they ended up going the final four. So once we get to the tournament, anything can happen. And I genuinely do believe that. Now, do I think like we're really good?
Starting point is 00:46:24 Without Robinson, probably not. But could we still win? Yeah. If NC State went to the final four, when they almost lost in the first round of the ACC tournament, then yeah, we can make a run. I mean, I'm all for being positive and saying, and I'm not saying that we can't, but I just, to me, if we're not going to have our guys shooting three
Starting point is 00:46:51 like they need to be doing if our defense is going to be as bad as it is and if our rebounding is going to be as bad as it is, I'm just, you know, you can say NC State, there's always one team every year that makes it farther than they're supposed to. Yeah. And the past couple of years we've been ultra-talent. and haven't done anything. So maybe the year's different.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Can you give me a couple teams? Who made the Final Four two years ago? Do you remember the first time you con won? Do you remember the other teams that were in the Final Four? In 2011? No, no, the two teams. That's not two years ago. When Yukon won the championship two years ago, who else made the Final Four that year?
Starting point is 00:47:26 Two years ago, yeah, you got me. I don't know. The other teams were Miami, Florida Atlantic, and San Diego State. a San Diego State teams whose point guard was a guy named Lamont Butler. So my point is I'm not saying we should be like confident that we're going to make a run, but we can. We can't. And so like, that's why, and I appreciate the call, I don't think you judge how good a team is as a team by their March run.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Because you can get unlucky. You can get lucky. You judge a coach over a period of time. but I'm not giving up on this year yet. We've played in the hardest conference, probably ever. We've had a lot of injuries. Unfortunately, now we're losing Robinson, so I think our upside is not as high as it would have been with him.
Starting point is 00:48:19 But let's say we're a four seed. Let's say our one seed is, well, for a four seed, our one seat is probably Duke. So let's say we get to a three seed. and our two seed is Michigan State or Iowa State. St. John's. You don't think we could win that game? Now, we could lose it.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Heck, we could lose in the first round. But you don't think we could win that game? And then when we get to the Elite 8, maybe we have Duke, but maybe they get beat before then. Like, you just never know. And that's what makes March great. But we've been upset a lot where we were better than the other team. We were better than Oakland.
Starting point is 00:49:02 We were better than St. Peter's. We were better than Kansas State that one year. We'll get one at some point. Hopefully it's this year. Let's do one more, and then we'll take a break. Who's next? Stub. Stub.
Starting point is 00:49:13 What's up? Hey, Matt. So my buddies and I were texting, and I'm going to give him the credit for this because they'll listen. But that Lamont Butler call, so this is getting out of control. He was making a basketball play. That was not a foul. But that's the rule.
Starting point is 00:49:33 That's the rule. You hit somebody in the face. It's a flagrant. Whether I like that rule or not, that's the rule. And I don't like that rule because you're exactly right. But when you go up for a shot and with the offhand, you hit the other guy in the face, they're going to call that. But getting, I don't know if you played for Bell County or Middlesboro, wherever you played. If you got beat, getting your face in the way after you're beaten is not a foul, much less a flus.
Starting point is 00:50:02 It is now in college basketball. If you hit a person in the face, it is a foul. If you make an intentional movement and it hits a person in the face, even if you didn't mean to, that's the rule. I don't like it. I think it's a bad rule, but it is the rule. But here's the other thing. And me, and like the little shot about it,
Starting point is 00:50:26 I don't know if you played at Bell County or Middlesbrough has nothing to do with what the rule is. No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying like you, I was saying like you experienced playing and playing defense and all that. That's what I was saying. But if it's a flagrant foul, you should be able to see it in real time. Well, I agree with that. But that's a judgment, and I appreciate the call. That's a judgment on the ref.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Like, to me, Joe Lindsay, you're standing right there. Like, if you didn't even see him, I don't. understand how they ended up at the monitor that was my thing billy if he didn't think it was a foul how did he end up at the monitor you know like if he called a foul and then he might go well let's go see how bad it is but you didn't even call a foul and then you went to the monitor i don't get that and if i was bruce pearl i'd be livid at the fact that you called the foul on brandon garrison went to the monitor and then added a foul on brum oh he was i think he should be furious like that's not what the monitor reviews are supposed to be for like a couple of things.
Starting point is 00:51:34 And they've become this crutch that has led referees to just look at it all the time. And that is like that's terrible for the game. And I think they went late and the monitor wasn't even working when they tried to review. Well, that's right. When the power went out, they didn't have a monitor. Yeah. Which is good. I mean, when the ABC power went out, they didn't have a way to get replays.
Starting point is 00:51:56 And guess what? They were able to call the end of the game. of all those monitor reviews to me the only one that should be a monitor review I said I don't know if any of them should have been the goaltending they got it right when they have to go look at it right the garrison foul even though we ended up winning that just called a foul and if you get it wrong we're going to criticize you that's what we do with the referees right the the butler thing if you didn't see it in real time that you didn't think there was contact, then why did you go to the monitor? It's just, and then the whole thing about
Starting point is 00:52:32 like, we won't look on a goaltending until after the next mark. They stop it all the time, Billy. Why do they wait until then? Well, that's, that's happened several times this year. And it's terrible because if, let's say it hadn't been a goaltending, we got that rebound, and we would have lost the points, even though we got the rebound. So I just, I hate that rule. It's, college basketball, some of these rules just don't make any sense to me. Let's take a break. 859-28027. We'll come back for the final segment.
Starting point is 00:53:01 It's the local Toyota dealers, KSR Post-Game show. Welcome back, Tughey Sports Radio, 859-2-80-2287. We got five people on, Billy. Is that right? Six, but. Six, we'll do all six, and we'll go through here. And then we're going a little long today, but that's all right. Saturday, still nice outside, even though we lost.
Starting point is 00:53:20 I want to have a tweet. or a text, somebody sent the text machine I do want to respond to, Billy. It says, I'd like to commend Billy on standing his ground this week. I have an appreciation for people that say what they mean and mean what they say. All right, so, Bill, you know me pretty well. What do you think my reaction is going to be to that text? I think in certain situations, it's good to stand up for yourself, but you should also have humility at times.
Starting point is 00:53:50 That's close to what I was going to say. Yeah. So, like, Billy messed up. So when you mess up, when you mess up, but he didn't do it intentionally. Like, he didn't do it to hurt anybody. So when you mess up unintentionally, there's nothing wrong with apologizing. Probably my most frustrating thing that has happened in our culture outside of, like, you know, some of the political stuff and all that that bothers me is this, like, all of a sudden
Starting point is 00:54:17 how it's become like a really cool thing to never apologize. Yeah, man, I just say it. and like stop it you should be able to change your mind and you should be able to say you're sorry there's like a philosopher billy that says why did i change my mind when i get new information i reconsider what do you do that's a really good line right like you shouldn't be so set in your beliefs that nothing could ever change your mind if you do then you're just like uh you're just a sheep well yeah and your perspective can change over time everything changes chances are, I don't care who you are out there.
Starting point is 00:54:53 You don't think the same thing you did five years ago. So if that's true, then you shouldn't be wedded to what you think the day before. Because if you can, so when you mess up, nobody messes up more than me. I apologize more than anybody. So one of the things that frustrates me about Billy is that sometimes he won't apologize. But see, he's growing because he did today. That's good. So I actually would say to you, there are many things to commend Billy about, but not
Starting point is 00:55:21 apologizing. It should not be one of those. Okay. Who's next? Fox is next. Did you say box? Fox. Fox.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Fox. Okay. Go ahead, Fox. The news that Jackson Robinson was broke last night deflated the team by... No, they knew. Yeah, I mean, but remember, I mean, it's a long pep talk. ESPN show six seconds, right? So, I mean, like, you don't really know necessarily that you saw the whole thing. But they, I think they knew very quickly after the Oklahoma game.
Starting point is 00:56:07 I mean, I didn't find out until last night. So, like, I put it out last night and a lot of fans right at last night. But I think the team knew that before then. And honestly, the team probably knew that Robinson was, you know, I think Pope said today that they knew two weeks ago he needed surgery, but he was just going to try to make it work. And so the team knew that, I'm sure. And I got to give the kid a lot of credit. Like, you know, I mean, he's going to go be a pro and probably playing in that
Starting point is 00:56:35 Oklahoma game and trying to come back is going to make his recovery process take longer, which will hurt his draft slash, you know, NBA status. So for him to want to do that, I actually got to give him a lot of credit. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. I was just wondering how, you know, just the, you know, how the team was going to, with their energy level, thinking knowing he wasn't going to come back. Yeah. Well, I appreciate the call.
Starting point is 00:57:02 I mean, if that is an issue, we'll probably see it next Tuesday against LSU, right? You know, they didn't have, I didn't have great energy, but I also didn't really think it was the energy thing. I just, I mean, they just didn't play well. Who's next? Gabriel. Gabriel. What's up, Gabriel? Five more.
Starting point is 00:57:20 I have two questions. The first one is since Jackson Robinson out for the season, do you think Kobe Bra has a step up in that position? Without question. I mean, Kobe Brayette, what do he score tonight? He had, what, 18, something like that? 21. 21.
Starting point is 00:57:39 So I don't know if he has scored 21 every game, but he's got to score like 16 or 17 for us to be good teams. Yes, there's no doubt. With Jackson Robinson out, two things. have to happen. Kobe Bray has got to like score. He can't have games off. And then one of the freshman between Noah, Perry, and Chandler, every game, at least one of them's got to play well, especially either Perry or Chandler, because that's their position. Like, we can't have, they can't just both be unplayable because as much as I like these guys playing a lot,
Starting point is 00:58:16 Bray had to play 38 minutes. You got to need a little break. So, so yeah, I definitely, Kobe Bray is going to be the one that has to step up the most. Yeah, I figured. And the second one is, after your gut feeling, what do you think our ceiling is for the tournament now since Robinson's out? Appreciate the call. Yeah, I mean, again, I don't go by round because anything can happen. But I would say this is a, you know, this is probably,
Starting point is 00:58:48 we're probably going to go into the tournament. to guess we're going to be a four seed. That's what I'm going to guess we're going to end up. And if we do, then I think we win our first game, and then I think we'll play a five seed, who will probably be just as good as we are, and it'll be a toss-up, and, you know, we'll see what happens. And then after that, it's all about your match-up and who you play and et cetera. So we'll see. The reality is if we're a four-seed, it's almost certain to, you're a one. It's almost certain to me are one seed is going to be Duke because I think the SEC is going to have three one seats and they're not going to want to put us with them. So if we're a four seed,
Starting point is 00:59:31 like Billy, we're going to be in Duke's region. Don't say that. Don't say. Whereas if we're a three seed, then we might avoid Duke. So, but if we're a four seed, our Sweet 16 opponent would be Duke. So they're a four seat if they lose to Missouri. So how it boils down to them or LSU. I think we, let's assume we beat LSU. Beat Missouri we're a three. If we don't beat Missouri, then we're kind of hovering on the three four.
Starting point is 01:00:05 I think we end up a four because the committee will go, well, they don't have Jackson Robinson. And, you know, that's how I would see it. Or to put it a different way, we're going to play out. at Missouri, and then we're probably going to play, if we win our first round game, Auburn in the quarterfiles, the SEC tournament. If we want to be a 3C, Billy, we've got to win one of those two games. I think at Missouri will be easier than beating off.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Yeah. So win one of those two games, we're a three, lose them both, we're a four. Lose to LSU, we're probably five. Who's next? Cam. Cam, go ahead, Cam. What's going on, guys? first of all, really disappointed to hear about Jackson Robinson, man.
Starting point is 01:00:51 But as you're saying, as I'm listening, you know, if North Carolina State can make a run like they did last year, you know, anything crazy can happen in March for us this year, good and bad. You know, hopefully we don't. Remember this Auburn team, by the way, as good as this Auburn team is. And they picked up a couple players. They have a lot of similar players from last year. Do you remember what Auburn did in the tournament last year? They lost in the first round of the year.
Starting point is 01:01:15 Yale. Yeah, they lost to Yale. So, you know, the tournament's weird, man, no matter what. It is. It is. I was watching a game with my wife, and she's watched about three or four games with me this year. And she said, man, we look real scared today, real timid. And I was like, you're right. And she also said, why are we starting with the ball so far away from the basket? We were playing so timid. Yeah, we were. Our screen looked soft. We weren't trying to, you know, initiate the offense. you know, in a respectable place, man. Would you look very uncomfortable a day playing at home? And I was really disappointed overall in the effort.
Starting point is 01:01:55 Well, your wife, I think it was right. I appreciate the call. I can, I think she, we appreciate the call. I think she, we did. I mean, a lot of that's credit to Auburn. They pushed us out. And, you know, they were willing, they were basically willing to have us get beat back door or to beat them back door.
Starting point is 01:02:13 And, you know, we weren't able to do it. Tennessee just banked in a three. Does it feel like there's more banked in threes now than I can ever remember? Tennessee just banked in a three, and they've tied the game against Alabama. It's a good game here going on right now. Six minutes to go. We got three left. Who's next?
Starting point is 01:02:30 Kinky. Kinky. How are you kinky? Hey, I'm doing all right, Matt. First time, very long time. Who are? What makes you kinky? It's a college fraternity nickname.
Starting point is 01:02:44 I mean, you know, You just can't help it. Do you want to tell us how you got that nickname? Or is there a way to tell it on the public airwaves? Oh, I can tell it, but it's not nearly as interesting. Well, then go ahead. If it's not as interesting, then I still want to hear what it is. Oh, I was on a fraternity walkout in 1985, and one of my older fraternity brothers came back in from a night of drinking. It's just my real name is Ken, and he's like, hey, Kiki, Kinky. And it was like, that was my Sturney Nickman. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Well, that's very different than what I thought. So you're what? So you were a fraternity in 1985. So that means you were, you're like what, 57 years old, something like that. And you, do you introduce yourself as Kinky? Well, to my friends and to people who are my age level, but not to my students. Oh, yes. Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Oh, yeah. You don't do that. Don't do that. As your lawyer, I'm going to tell you not to do that. All right. Well, what do you got? Thank you. Well, thank you, counselor.
Starting point is 01:03:48 I would just say there are some things about this team that frustrate me. I've especially been disappointed in our live ball turnovers, which haven't seemed to improve as the season goes on, but maybe that's just who we are, right? Yes. And so, but like Pope sealed as a team from scratch in April, leads the country in top 10 wins, has battled injuries all season long, and is still in line to get a four-seater better. So all these people who are thinking they know better than him And it just makes me chuckle a little bit And if he was able to do that this year I'm so confident in what he can do going forward
Starting point is 01:04:25 Yeah, I don't get, and I appreciate the call I don't understand the people Who look at whatever the results are this year However we end up And think that they can somehow like definitively glean that he's not going to be good here And I don't think there's many people that say that. But I do think there's a handful.
Starting point is 01:04:46 And I don't understand how they can even think that because he put a team together in three and a half weeks. As he reminded on the post game show, they're four and three against teams that are ranked in the top five right now in the so far this season. And, you know, he's dealt with basically four of our five players or four of our top seven players. or four of our top seven players have been significantly hurt during the course of the year. So I don't really know, you know, now, can I say, like, definitively, he's going to be great here? I don't think you could say that either. But I definitely don't think anything has. I mean, go look at the other new coaches, okay?
Starting point is 01:05:33 You know, Cal, we know what's happening there. The guy at Michigan, Dusty May, is doing well, but it's similar to. us. Pat Kelsey's doing well, but it's similar to us. They just have an easier schedule. We beat them. So like all these new coaches around the country are kind of doing as good or like Pope is doing as well or better than all of them. So why don't people be negative? We had no players when he got here. None. That's that was always the bargain with Cal. Here's the thing about Cal. I said this 10 years ago. The day Cal leaves, you have to start over.
Starting point is 01:06:13 When you hire Cal Perry, it's a bargain. The first bargain is he'll make you good quick because he'll just bring in all these new guys. But the counter to that is when he leaves, you have to start over. UMass did. Memphis did. Kentucky now is.
Starting point is 01:06:30 And one day Arkansas will. So like, if you had told me in 2015, the year after Cal leaves, Kentucky's going to be a four-seat in the NCAA tournament that next year. Billy, I would have signed up for that in a minute. And they swept Tennessee. They beat Duke. You beat Louisville. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Be Georgia. Be Gonzaga. Now, if I were to look back and go, what am I disappointed in? We should have beat in Arkansas. Probably should have beaten Texas. You know. Georgia. But maybe Georgia.
Starting point is 01:07:02 But like, I am. In general, I think this has been a positive thing. And people who give up on Pope, I just don't get that at all. Those are just people, though, who want to be negative. Two more. Who's next? Benjamin. Benjamin, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:07:19 Hey, Matt, how are you doing, sir? Doing good. Good. So I don't know about how other people feel about this, but I am sick and tired of listening to Jay Billis call Kentucky basketball games. I mean, I don't know what intellect Albert Einstein genius-level person decided to let a Duke basketball player, former, obviously, call a Kentucky basketball game. I mean, his bias doesn't hate, Jay Billis doesn't hate Kentucky. I mean, Jay Billis' nephew was a student body president at Kentucky.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Well, I was unfamiliar with that. I'll admit my ignorance there, but sometimes it gets a little annoying. Yeah, I mean, I get if you don't like Jay Billis as an announcer, I appreciate the call. I mean, everybody's got different things they like. but I don't think Jay Bill is, I mean, the only thing I don't like about Jay Bill is doing our games is that we have to watch he meet ice cream every time. Like that's only because I actually think he does a good job. I mean, he's a little bit, he's a little bit curmudgeonly the older he gets, like some of the joy he had early in his career. Now he's always complaining about things.
Starting point is 01:08:32 But I, in general, Billy, I think amongst the college basketball announcers, he's one of the better ones that there is. Sure, I'd say so. And wait till Benjamin finds out that a Duke grad's hosting this radio show right now. It's a really good point. That's right. I went to Duke, too. Maybe it's either his nephew was student body president or his niece married the guy who was student body president. His niece or nephew went to UK.
Starting point is 01:09:01 And someone was the student body president. I can't remember which one it was. I don't know if it was the spouse or him. but that was during like the John Wall, you know, or maybe Anthony Davis years. All right, one more. Who's next? Johnny. Johnny.
Starting point is 01:09:16 Go ahead, Johnny. Hey, Matt. This is my fourth postgame show in a row. Got a body, Billy. Be nice to the women. Easy now, Danny. Billy almost got through the whole show without getting crushed and then Johnny gets him. All right, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:09:33 A couple things here. Al Minore came in. Look like he was shooting a block of cheese whenever he shot that theory. I mean, it was rough. That was rough. It was. So, Pope, he put emphasis on the SEC tournament whenever he was first tired. Do you think that he has a lot more pressure this year?
Starting point is 01:09:51 It's not looking good. I don't think there's pressure. I mean, like, okay, so first of all, he suggested even tonight. He was like, we're going to get to Nashville and it's going to be explosive. So he's not acting like it doesn't matter. when you say pressure okay let's say we're the eight seat right first game we play mississippi state is there pressure to win that one yeah maybe but i mean let's say we play albair in the quarterfinals like what are you going to do you know what i mean i mean what i hopefully more than we did tonight
Starting point is 01:10:24 hopefully i agree hopefully more than we did tonight i appreciate the call i mean i you know it's you can only do so much i still think think that there's a world that we can beat Auburn in a game, even though I think Auburn's really good. Because I do think we actually defensively have a shot at guarding them. You saw it in spurts tonight. But then, I mean, you got to be locked in. You got to be locked in. And then you can't, like one of their guys can't make nine threes. You know, we actually played Broome pretty well. But a dude made nine threes. So, you know but do i think we'll beat them no but i also i don't think we're 16 points worse than them
Starting point is 01:11:13 but tonight we were thank you folks very much for listening let's go over some uh schedule so monday uh i'll be in studio doing the show um first of all kentucky women play tomorrow at south carolina so uh i don't think you know they got good chance to finish the regular season their SEC tournament is next week. Monday, we're in studio. Tuesday will be at KS Bar. Kentucky plays Tuesday. The pregame show will be at 4.30.
Starting point is 01:11:44 Wednesday, Thursday at KS Bar, and then Friday we will be in Louisville at Cornbread Hill. But I do not believe Billy that's not open to the public, right? Or is it? I'll have to double check. I don't know that. I'll have to let you know on that one. But we are in Louisville.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Cats take a unfortunate defeat at home tonight to Auburn. Two more games. left in the regular season. And by the way, it's March now. Best month of the year for sports. We will see you later. This has been the local Toyota dealers. KSR, post game show.
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