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Episode Date: March 16, 2024Matt, Ryan and Billy recap the Cats' 97-87 loss to Texas AM in the SEC Tournament.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....
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The Cats.
Lose another SEC tournament game.
This time, 9787 to Texas A&M.
You can give us a shout.
We'll open it up at the end of the segment.
859-280-22.
27.
Unfortunately, this has become kind of a normal situation here in the last few years at the
SEC tournament as the cats take an early loss.
I'm sitting here with Ryan.
I'll do a little bit of an intro and then I'll let him talk.
So, you know, I try to be nuanced in the way I look at this stuff and I feel that way about
this.
There's the sort of bigger picture how Kentucky has played.
in this particular event.
And then there's the other picture of,
okay, well, what about the rest?
I mean, there's still another,
the NCAA tournament is still to come.
And there's still one to six games left in the season.
But let's start with tonight and the loss in the SEC tournament.
I hate this for the people down here.
I hate how things have gone in this tournament.
I mean, this was a tournament that Kentucky has owned,
really since it restarted for many, many years.
I mean, they won during Cal Perry's first,
however many years, I think I saw he was 23 and 3 in the SEC tournament in his first
nine or nine years or whatever.
And in the last four years, we've won one game.
We have the 13th out of 14 teams in the SEC.
We're 13th out of 14 in record in the SEC tournament in the last four years.
13th out of 14.
That's awful.
I mean, that's awful.
That's absolutely awful.
And when you consider what this tournament is,
for UK fans, it's even worse.
And I'm not going to wax poetic about it,
but I've been coming to this tournament in some form since like 1990,
maybe 1989.
I think we went for like a game in 1989, but in 1990.
And, you know, it's one of my favorite weekends of the year,
has been my entire life from when I went with my grandfather to now
when all my friends are here.
But that's not just true for me.
I mean, that's true for thousands of people.
Oh, yeah.
This to me is the best craft.
you get at Kentucky games.
The Nashville SEC
tournament crowd is the best
of the Kentucky fan base.
No offense to Rupp Arena folks, because that can be
great too, but this is, there's a little
bit everybody here. You know, in the
recent years, as Nashville's grown more expensive,
it's, you know, harder, but there are people who come to
these games who don't get to go to any other games.
Right. And the
atmosphere is electric. During that run
in the first half, I thought to myself,
this is as loud as I can remember this place being.
I mean, it was electric as Kentucky was making their run in the first half.
And so I hate for these people that this is now four years in a row where we've gone home very early.
Only one semifinal in the last four years, only one victory in the last four years.
So I hate it.
I mean, this place was rolling.
I would say, I mean, that gym holds, what, 18,000?
I'd say 16,000 of them
where Kentucky fans. I don't know who's left in that arena
now, but it can't be many people.
Clear it out.
So that stinks.
Kentucky was manhandled today.
I mean, when I think about the game,
I'm kind of, it's odd we only lost by 10.
It feels like all I remember is in making shots.
Yeah.
You know, in the first half,
hit a ton of threes in the second half.
You know, they just got to the rim whenever they wanted.
Whenever they wanted.
Our guards just couldn't.
they couldn't guard them.
I mean, that's the bottom line.
We just can't.
We could not stop the ball.
And everything on defense starts with stopping the ball, and we can't.
We could not stop the ball.
And this is how it was every game earlier this year, if you remember.
And then things have been better in the last few weeks, but not tonight.
I mean, we gave up 95, I think, down there at A&M and 97 tonight.
Against a team that's not that great offensively.
It's only two times they scored in the 90s all year.
Is that right?
Yep.
I mean, they're 360.
in the country in three point percentage.
And they hit 11?
12.
Hit 12.
Hit 12.
They're 360th in the country in 3.
6th in the country in 3.0.
It's not hard to do when you're wide open.
There were some wide open looks.
So it stinks.
I mean, you know, there are little things you could point out,
but three things stood out to me just in terms of the actual game.
One, it's probably too late, and it is what it is.
I do.
Play your best players.
Start your best players.
Yeah.
Start your best players.
Down 8 to 1.
8 to 1.
Never came back.
Never came back.
That race to 10 on draft kings has always been
take the other team.
Never came back.
Why do we do that?
Why do we put a lineup?
This is my question for people who defend that lineup.
Why do we put a lineup on the floor that we don't play at any other point the rest of the game?
True.
We don't.
We never play that line up.
lineup the rest of the game ever.
Nope.
We play the players, but we never play them together.
Right.
For the rest of the game.
So why do we do it there?
Why do you start a lineup that clearly is not good enough that you never go back to it?
That's just, there's not a logical answer.
There's no logical answer.
We're going to look back and we're going to have two guys go in the top five to seven of the draft and neither one of them starts.
And I don't, there's, I don't understand it.
I don't understand.
If that lineup was even close to good, you would play it like.
in the game, but we never do.
Never.
Because it's not a good lineup to play because we can't score.
And as far as D, you would say, well, you could put it in for defense.
Well, that didn't stop anybody either.
No.
Right?
And at this point, like, waiting two and a half minutes and then putting Reed or Rob in,
why are you even, like, why?
Nobody's tired yet.
Like, what's the, it's just, it doesn't make sense.
So that's number one.
Number two, we just aren't good with physicality.
We just don't.
I mean, when teams are physical with us, we are not good.
The officiating, I do think Kentucky was on the losing end of the officiating.
But with that said, it was officiated as a game where they were going to let them play for most of it.
Now, it got a little tighter down the stretch.
But for most of it, they let them play him.
We just aren't good at that.
And there's going to be a game in the NCAA tournament where the referees do that.
Absolutely.
And we're just not good at that.
And our guys shy away from it.
And then I think third, a lot of the things that we are good at and have been great at this year,
they kind of got away from.
They didn't share the ball.
There was a lot of kind of running up and throwing stuff up on the glass, especially, unfortunately, by Rob, who I can't, I can't crush Rob for it because that gets to me, I was surprised at how much our players didn't seem to want to shoot in the second half.
I really thought only Rob and Antonio, and Antonio was in foul trouble the whole game.
Only Rob and Antonio seemed to want the ball.
Now, I think that led Rob to take some bad shots, but Reed only shot twice,
and he passed up a lot of open looks.
Yeah, he didn't score the second half.
But why did he pass?
I don't remember one shot.
He'd shoot twice.
I think he shot twice, and he passed up a lot of open looks,
and it was clear to me some of the other guys didn't want to shoot at all.
Yeah.
When they got the ball, it was when can't.
I get rid of it. That's one of the reasons I really like a do is he's not scared. No.
And Rob's not scared. No. So, and I don't think Antonio's scared. But some of the guys seem
scared to me tonight. And they haven't been like that all year. And it made me wonder, I just
watched it and thought, this team looks tight. They look tight. They look, this team that has been
so much fun because they run up and down the court and they feel like this energy and it's what's
made the fan base love them and they're excited and they're happy.
For the first time this year, it looked to me like they were scared to lose.
They looked tense, and A&M, the one that looked loose.
They looked loose.
And they were the ones who were fighting for their tournament lives.
And they looked tense.
And again, Cal looked tense.
Yeah, he did.
He was.
Cow was tens.
I sat right directly across from Cal.
I was on the front row on the other side.
That was, he's not been like that this year.
No.
He's been a lot more calm.
this year and tonight he was screaming and it was like is he tense it felt like the way all the games
felt like a couple years ago where it was like it kind of felt like that tonight and look is this
lost the end of the world no i still think this team and there will be people who disagree with me
the honest i still think they could go on a run and there aren't a lot of teams so if you want to be
positive there's not a lot of teams like a and m there's not a lot of teams that physical there's
not a lot of teams that have a guy as good as Wade Taylor.
They're a bad matchup for us.
So we might not even see a team like that in the tournament.
So I still, I'm not giving up,
but I don't like how tense they looked
because they haven't been like that all year.
Even in the bad times, I didn't think they looked tense.
No.
And they looked tense.
And Cal looked tense.
And there was a lot of yelling, and it was not like it's been.
And so, you know, we've talked all year.
Cal kind of said, built for March, built for March.
Well, that's, it's March.
It puts a lot on March.
Yep.
Right?
You know, that puts a lot on March, and I thought they look like they had a lot on March.
So now we'll see what happens.
I'm bummed for the fans here.
This is a, it's sad.
Like walking around, people are just sad.
And people, I was surprised how angry.
people were in the crowd.
You sat there right next to me.
You heard people.
Oh, yes.
I was surprised.
I mean, I haven't gone to a lot of games this year.
I've been to two games that were up and then that game in Philly.
So I hadn't been, like, you know, it's just a lot.
There's a lot on this team right now and a lot of pressure going to be in these next three weeks.
I do want to commend Cal.
I thought what his comments in the post game were good because he expressed what I said about
the fans that he hated for them that they didn't put for a guy who's, he hadn't always really
acted like this tournament mattered.
He didn't do that tonight, and I give him a lot of credit for that
because fans didn't want to hear that.
And so I give him credit for saying, because he's right,
this is a big deal to people.
But, you know, they've lost three straight games in the SEC tournament
for the first time in the history of the school.
First time in the history of the school,
they've lost three straight games in the SEC tournament.
Only the second time in the history of the school,
but they've gone five years without making the finals
of the SEC tournament, and the last time it was 1929 to 1933.
So, with all that, Ryan, what do you think?
Well, you hit on, I think, on the main points.
Texas A&M is just, they're a bad matchup for Kentucky.
They're physical, and they have a guard that could get to the rim.
They have two guards that get to the rim any time they want.
Any time.
Any time.
We could not stop the drive for Relford, Redford, or Wade Taylor.
Wade Taylor, either one of them.
The big guys push us around, bully us around.
They did it in January.
They did it again this time.
But you said it, man.
You've got a major home court advantage.
You're not going to get a better home court advantage than this.
No.
This is like, if you've never been here, this is like Allen Fieldhouse, Kansas loud.
Yes.
You cannot get a better home court advantage than they have here.
Nope.
And you haven't been able to take advantage of it here two years in a row on your,
First game of the tournament, it's becoming embarrassing.
When you said we're 13th out of 14 SEC teams in our tournament record here,
that's embarrassing, man.
Embarrassing.
When we have the best home court advantage.
By far.
I mean, by far.
There are so many Kentucky fans here.
That was a home game for Kentucky.
They did a thing at the end where they played the swag surfing song,
and they were winning by like 10.
So they were swag surfing and our fans weren't.
And it just occurred to me how few people they had.
Yeah.
I mean, they had like a section, you know, 12 rows behind the bench.
Yep, and about 12 rows behind you.
And that was about it.
Yep.
I mean, there was like, you know, I mean, so look.
You know what?
Go ahead.
Those people behind you may have been Alabama fans now that I think about it.
Well, there weren't many A&M fans.
So, you know, look, I'm not, this isn't just me being, no,
Matt's too optimistic or too pessimistic.
I still think if they got a certain draw in the tournament,
they could go to the Final Four because there are teams that cannot play with us.
But I thought when we beat Tennessee and when we beat Mississippi State on the road,
I kind of thought now we have a recipe to beat the teams we don't match up well with.
Because I know we can beat the teams we do match up well with.
And I said on the pregame, Shaw, I was more worried about this game than the other ones because of that matchup.
But now to not only lose, but kind of get our tail kicked.
Got manhandled, man.
If we see one of those teams in the tournament.
And there aren't many of them.
But if we do.
We'll have trouble.
It's hard to feel confident.
I think you also saw tonight how important Reeves is to the offensive part of this.
He was in foul trouble.
And because he's in foul trouble, he wasn't in long enough to get a rhythm.
and when he is not in, we struggle to get guys open.
In the first half, Shepard was able to do it by himself.
Shepherd kept us in the game in the first half.
And then in the second half, though, you saw we were, when he's not in,
we really struggle to get guys open for shots,
and you end up with Dillingham kind of having to do as much as he can do,
and he went on a run where he scored like seven points in a minute,
but we just didn't have enough with anybody else.
With all that said, we gave up 97.
And so winning when you give up 97 is going to be pretty old.
And didn't it feel like 1907?
It felt like they scored every single time.
Yep, it did.
It felt like they hit every shot.
If it wasn't a three-pointer, it was a straight-line drive to the basket.
It felt like they scored every time down the floor.
If they had missed a bunch of free throws, they would have had over 100 early.
Oh, yeah, they missed a bunch of free throws.
Yeah.
And, you know, I do think there was a, there were some touch.
at the end.
I think we got the negative end of the officiating,
but it's not why we lost.
No, no.
It's not why we lost.
Nope.
We lost because they beat us.
They manhandles from the start to the finish.
We led one nothing and never let again.
And it's probably too late at this point to change the lineup.
But if we don't win it this year, I mean, I don't mean win the whole thing,
but if we don't get to the elite A to the final four,
there's going to be a part of me that's going to look back and go,
why did we do it like this?
Why do we need to make it harder than it has to be?
I don't know.
You know, why we've got to be down 8 to 1 every game?
That's why that raised to 10 on Draft Kings.
That's only one bet I win every year, every game.
Now, you brought up that point about Reeves sitting out in foul trouble.
So that meant their best defender switched.
Reeves on the bench, started guard and Reed.
And that bothered Reed.
And that bothered him.
Yeah.
And Reeves, I thought that third foul on Reeves, the first one in the second half was a bad
call and it made a big difference though because it takes him out and you know i thought cal left him on
the bench a little too long when he got his fourth but regardless of all that when he's not in even if he's
it's just the threat of him yes changes everything for everybody else yep and teams have a decision
to make with their guards they're going to put one of their best ones on Antonio yes so then they have to
pick their poison yeah am i going to make reed shepherd beat me
Or am I going to make Rob Dilley to him beat me?
And if you go back and look at when Reed had his run,
it was when Reeves was in before he got his second foul.
And then when you go back and you look when Dillingham had his run,
it was when Reeves was in after they put him back in after his forefights.
He makes a big difference.
And I, and then some of the guys just look scared, man.
I hate it.
But they looked like, for the first time this year,
they looked like they had the weight of the world on it.
Yeah.
You remember that you leaned over, you were sitting right behind me, and you said, hey, this is a big possession.
It was a six-point game.
Yep.
Six-point game with four minutes to go.
Something like that.
And I said, if you can get a stop right here and they got an A-N-1.
Yeah, and instead of getting a stop, they gave up a three-point play.
Yeah, got an A-N-1.
So now it goes up to nine.
Yeah.
Whereas if we stop them, come down, you know, we can hit three on each position.
Yes.
It's a three-point game.
Yeah.
By the way, they couldn't get over like the five-point hump.
It was five-point game, like, the whole time.
So, all right, 859, 2807.
I mean, I'm bummed.
I'll be honest with you.
I'm bummed.
I love this tournament.
I love coming down here.
I love seeing the faces.
You know, I love that show we do today.
I love this thing.
And I hate what it's been like these last few years.
I hate looking at all those people when it's over and how dis-
Because when we go play next week or even the week after,
we won't have as many fans there as we had here.
No, this is a, this is Rupp Arena right here.
Maybe at the final four you get that many, but these first two, like, we will not have as many people as we're here.
And they're loud.
And it stinks.
All right, 859-28027.
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We will take a break and come back.
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in the amount of comments.
Sorry, I'd say.
I mean, you know, it's...
People are upset, man.
First of all, I think it took this...
This team is so likable,
and the run they made at the end of the year,
I think everybody,
it felt like, I said this,
I was sitting next to Jordan Cornett,
the former ESPN guy.
He was there tonight,
and I was sitting next to him in the game,
and we were talking throughout the game.
And I said,
he was asking,
me kind of like, what's the state of the fan base and blah, blah, blah.
And I said, I really think in the last couple weeks, it's been like as unified as it's been since COVID, right?
It's like everybody had kind of put everything to the side of whatever they felt about anything and like, we got something special here, right?
Yeah.
And, you know, I'm not, to me, any big discussions you wait until the end of the year about anything.
but do you think it'll be able to repiece itself back?
Are they going to have to win both games next weekend to get everybody re-energized?
They cannot have a first weekend loss.
Well, they clearly can't, but do you think, like, you felt how jacked up this fan base was this weekend?
Do you think it'll be like that next weekend?
Or do you think people are going to be reticent to get their hopes up again?
It may depend on the draw.
I think the draw is going to match.
But the thing is, the bracket opened up for us.
Florida's up 15 on Alabama.
I can't believe that.
You could have had a final four that was Mississippi State,
Auburn, and Florida when you thought you were going to get Tennessee, Alabama, and Auburn.
You know, I mean.
I think the fan base loves this team so much.
If they get a good draw, they'll get excited for maybe a run in March.
Because I agree with you, this team has enough talent where they can make a run.
So who's winning in the SEC tournament?
Auburn?
Auburn looked really good today.
It's like that Tennessee loss the game right before.
and maybe woke them up a little bit because they played really well today.
I think Alabama's about to quit.
I think they have, man.
Kentucky broke their spirit, I think.
I think they are headed in the other drive.
They're going to end up being like a five.
That's one where you really would say, look at the 12.
The 12.
We'll pick the 12 in that game.
All right.
Who's up first?
Darren.
Darren.
Go ahead, Darren.
Well, Matt, I didn't think that's going to call me first,
but oh, well, I'll get this one over quick.
pretty disappointed in the team tonight, man.
I don't know.
How many pros does Texas A&M have on their team?
Maybe one, maybe.
Yeah.
It's just unacceptable, Matt.
I mean, you know, I love this team.
I support them through and through.
Got more talent than anybody in the country, in my opinion.
But, man, what a disappointing.
I mean, just laying egg.
I feel sorry for the fans, too.
Yeah, I do too.
I appreciate the call.
And that's going to, I mean, this team has so much talent.
and you sit there and you watch it and you go, you know, they don't have as much talent.
The talent thing, you know, part of me wondered, like, how much talent do you need?
You know, like this year, like I had somebody tell me the other day, somebody I like a lot,
who said, you know, the difference this year, Matt, the only difference between this year and other years is we got the horses this year.
And I said to him, I was like, yeah, we do, but like, how many horses do you need?
I mean, we had more horses than St. Peter. St. Peter's.
I bet we had, if you look at the player by player, we had more horses than Kansas State.
Oh, yeah.
You know, how many horses do you need?
I mean, you know, as a jockey, do you have to have flight line to win?
You know, the last couple years, people loved Oscar, but they were hard to watch.
They were hard to watch.
This team's not hard to watch.
This team is not hard to watch.
I think that's what everybody got on board with them.
And when they come in full force like they were in that arena tonight and you can't deliver for them, it just is a gut punch.
I mean, I do still have confidence for the tournament.
I'm not as confident as I was five hours ago, but do you still have confidence?
I still have confidence.
I just don't know if they're going to be able to win six games in a row without running into a team.
It's going to be a matchup issue for them like Texas A&M.
Yeah.
Who's up next?
Ollie.
Ollie.
Go ahead, Ollie.
What up, Bellin?
What's going on?
All right, I have three quick points.
Here we go.
So one win in the last four SEC tournament is absolutely laughable.
One tells us to go zone, and that may be worth a man.
Reed and Reeve combined for 15 field goal attempts.
Is that it?
See, that's way too few.
Those guys, and I don't know if that's who that's all.
on, maybe it's on them, maybe it's on Cal.
But Antonio Rees and Reed Chipper cannot
only shoot 15 times in a game.
I mean, those, I didn't know
that was the number, but it's got to be more than that.
I sold that after the game
and it was, oh,
whatever, man,
whatever. Get your hopes up
or nothing.
All right, I appreciate the call. You're right.
Two of the best shooters in school history.
Yeah, I mean, they're going to finish
first and third in three-point
percentage in school history. You got to get up more
shots in that. You got to get up more shots
than that. And Reed made what?
Do we go like, what was
Reed from three? He hit at least three
of them in the first half. Did he hit? Let's
see. I don't know if he didn't shoot
one of the same. Three of six from three. Three of six.
I think he was three of five. I think he shot one in the second
half. I think he was three of five. Yeah, because he had that one
in the corner that would have been huge. They
did have, the two guys we're
talking about did have two good
looks that were at key points and they both
missed. It was like two
out of three plays. Rees was
open there on the wing and then Reed was open in the corner and they both they both had good
looks and they both missed shots it normally right I think they would make yeah that the read
the corner three was right at us you know we were right at that angle and it look you could tell
the minute he let it go it was not good I don't know he was just maybe yeah he missed it right
which is yeah what it wasn't who's next ridder ridder what's up ridder ridder what's going on
So first off, I want to say kudos to those fans.
As you mentioned, these are people who save up, go down there.
That was definitely a raucous environment.
It was great environment.
I don't know how well it came through on TV, but it was, especially in the first half,
it was as loud as I can remember.
The loudest game I've ever been to down here was John Wall's sophomore,
the semi-final game against Tennessee, right, when they won by like 30.
this was this was headed in that direction before we kind of got derailed and i'm sure a lot of those people
have vested in those books so they're sitting there the next three days kind of probably
looking what they're about to do so a couple points and i got two questions i want you and ryan's
opinion on i know you mentioned that they all looked tense like wasn't the absolute stench of
desperation when cow went zone down 10 with eight minutes to go and did it for multiple possessions
He said he was working on it.
And, you know, the problem with when Cal goes zone is he gives it up too quick.
Yeah.
Right?
Like, I don't know if it's going to work or not.
But when they make one mistake in zone, Ryan, he's out of it.
He's out of it.
Yep.
And so it's like, if you're going to play zone, I think you've got to play it for more than a player to.
But he said he worked on it.
And, you know, I don't know if it would have been the right thing or not tonight,
but they don't do it very much when they do it, so it's hard to say.
What's your second thing?
Well, I got two quick questions.
I said if you, let's say back in the 90s or whatever when recruiting wasn't so big
and I guess Kentucky wasn't as influential in the NBA, if you didn't know that any recruits
rankings or any NBA success, would you think these last six years were a success?
And then the second question is, if Cala Perry didn't have a buyout,
or his buyout was say $5 million.
Would that change your opinion?
I don't want to have any of those conversations
until the season's over.
I appreciate the call.
I mean, I just don't.
I don't think it does any good to have.
I mean, we're playing in tournament next week.
Yeah.
So let's go win it.
I mean, like, I think you do sort of do bigger picture conversations than.
I mean, I've been, I've been very clear.
Since COVID, this teams, this team, it has not been good enough.
there have been moments of good,
but it has collectively not been good enough.
With that said, you go on a six-game run,
and it's plenty good enough.
They've made it to where,
and by they, I just mean the whole pro,
it all comes down to March.
Everything comes down to March.
Everything comes down to these next three weeks,
because they've already lost this.
You know, we, Drew and I talked about before the season.
We had a conversation.
All right.
What success this year?
Yeah.
And I think Drew said they either need to win the SEC,
win the SEC tournament,
or go to a final four.
And I think he said preferably two out of three.
Well, right now we're 0 for two.
O for two.
So now we got one more, right?
And if you go to the final four,
I think it's success.
If you don't, then I don't know.
And the thing is, because you lost tonight,
And because you didn't do well enough this year to get a one or two seed,
your fate is in the hands of 15 people sitting in a room in Indianapolis.
They might go send you to Yukon.
They might go send you to Boston to play against Yukon.
It can easily do that.
That can easily happen.
Yep.
And they might go send you to Boston to play against Yukon,
and you've got to beat North Carolina first.
Like they could do that to you.
And you've given them the ability to do that to you.
With that said, they could send you to Detroit to play Marquette and then Purdue, and you're excited.
Yep.
They also could give you a matchup where you play a five-seat that plays exactly like Texas A&M in the second round.
You've put it in their hands now, but Ryan, starting next week, there are no excuses that this fan base will take.
The excuses ran out with about a minute left in regulation tonight.
today. So what do you think it's going to take for the fan base to feel good? If they lose in the
first weekend, there's nothing anybody can do. I agree. If they lose in the first weekend, this is
going to be what it's going to be. It's not going to be because of Matt Jones. It's not going to
be because of Ryan Lemon. It's going to be what it's going to be if they lose in the first weekend.
I agree. If they make the final four, it's going to be fine. Anybody that complains if they make a
final four will probably be told to shut up and they deserve it. If they lose in the second weekend,
it's all going to be in the eye of the observer.
It's going to be who they lost to, how they lost.
Like, it's a different, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
So, yeah, you lose to North Carolina in the Sweet 16.
It carries a little different way to you lose to Marquette in the Sweet 16.
I've been one of these guys for years,
and you could go back and listen to post-game shows going back to 2010.
That has said the NCAA tournament is not a good way to measure a coach.
or a program, you can lose.
You can play great and lose.
Like when we lost to North Carolina in 2017.
We were the second best team in the country,
and we got unlucky and we played the first one in the elite.
Yep.
So my thing is you judge on the big picture.
But here's the problem for Cal in the last four years.
The big picture has not been good.
We haven't won the SEC.
We've won one SEC tournament game.
And we've won one NCAA tournament game.
That's awful.
So we're now left with that randomness of the tournament is all I have left to judge you on.
You have made it to where I don't think you can win the big picture battle.
So all that's left is you're going to have to go on a run.
Right?
Yes.
And honestly, this team could do it.
They could.
And that stinks.
because it's random.
Yep.
But you know what?
You played away your chance to excuse it with randomness.
Who's next?
Matt's next.
Matt, go ahead, Matt.
Hey, Matt.
Love your thoughts on two quick things.
First one, what do you think the loss tonight?
What impact does that have on the, you know, two days ago launched Club Blue NIL?
Not great timing.
Same thing happened with the football one.
Remember we lost to Mandy right?
after he launched it, yeah.
Exactly, yeah.
And then secondly, and quickly, you know,
do you think there's any chance for the first game
that NCAA tournament, Cal finally starts,
Reed and Rob?
And my friends, Blake, Travis Landon,
and I would love to listen, and I'll hang on.
I don't think so.
Do you?
Nope.
He's setting his way.
I think the 100% most important thing to John Cal Perry is to win.
but 93% important is to win the way he wants to win.
Yeah.
So he can say, see?
Yeah.
How many times does he win a game and say the equivalent of C?
See what I did there?
He wants to be able to say C.
And so I think he wants to win, and that's why he doesn't play that lineup the whole game.
Yeah.
But he wants to be able to say, see, you all told me to do this, and I did this.
That's what he wants.
So no, I don't think he's going to change it.
I don't think he will either.
And I don't even know at this point, right?
Is it even a good idea at this point?
It's like if we all of a sudden were to play all zone, we haven't done it all year.
Right.
So is it right?
I don't know if it's a good idea to do it right now.
And you know, it ended up working for Justin Edwards until tonight.
It did.
And he said, see?
See?
And on that one, he deserved to say, see.
Yeah.
But then that doesn't mean the original criticisms aren't right.
Who's next?
Mike?
Mike, what's up, Mike?
Hey, guys.
Matt, Cal said earlier in the week in a press conference
is what he normally says
that the only thing he cared about was
he said, you know what tournament I really care about.
Yeah.
And I get it.
But how hard is it, how hard is it to say
I don't want to win the SEC tournament?
How hard is that?
Yeah.
Like, why?
I don't like,
when I had my,
I'm going to tell you a story I've never told on here before.
Okay.
When Cal and I had a positive relationship,
which was from really 2010 through 2019,
I only had an argument with him one time,
like a serious argument.
Like, Cal's one of those people to be friends with,
You just, you have to defer.
Yeah.
Right.
Like, that's what you have to do.
And I was okay doing that.
He has forgotten more about basketball than I ever know.
I had one serious argument with it.
And it was about this issue.
He said to me at some point, something like that the SEC tournament didn't matter.
And he was like, I don't care what any of you all say, it doesn't matter.
And I fought push back with him.
And it was fine.
But I was adamant that he was.
was wrong. It does
matter. It does matter. It does matter.
And even if it doesn't matter to him,
it matters to us.
And we are
the audience for this.
It matters.
Fast forward. I still don't
think he thinks it matters. With that said,
I don't think he wants to
lose these games. He's competitive.
When that game's going on, he
wants to win. Sure. So, sir, what I
would say is
I don't think he in his mind it matters like it does to me and you but I don't think that's why we lose
you know what I mean yeah like I don't think he went into the night wanting to lose to Texas A&M or not
caring does that make sense it does I don't think it does but when when you say those things
I think it permeates down like like subconsciously like it's not a big deal to the guys like
Like, just go out and say, let's win this.
Like, Kentucky is not the little engine that could.
They were the little engine that could in 1989.
Yeah.
Right?
For three or four years.
Like, how hard is it?
Like, just go say, hey, let's win this tournament.
We have throngs of people in this city.
And now, like.
Well, I think he wants to win.
I mean, I think, I, I, I,
I feel like I'm going back to the C part, right?
C.
He wants to say, I think he was shocked when he first, and I appreciate the call,
when he first got here and he said that, and we didn't agree, meaning the fan base.
And he still wants to be right.
About the SEC tournament.
But he also knows he's learned, I think, not to throw it in our face, right?
I think he has over the years.
And I do think he's a, this is what I've always.
He's a competitor, right?
If you're a competitor, you don't want to lose at anything.
No.
Right?
I mean, I don't like losing at anything.
We'll probably go to Top Golf tomorrow instead of going to these games.
And when we play those stupid games at Top Golf, I'm going to be trying to beat my friends.
Right?
Turkey Hunter's going down.
Gave's going down.
I don't think he wants to lose.
No.
But at the same time, he'd like to win it and then go, see this doesn't matter.
You know what I mean?
That's what he's...
2012 was his favorite thing.
We didn't win and still won the tournament.
He's a Hall of Fame coach for a reason, man.
He wants to win games.
He does win a lot of games.
But like we've said before,
we, the fan base, were here long before he got here,
and we're going to be here long after he leaves.
This matters.
It means a lot to us.
Yeah.
By the way, earlier today, the get-in price for the semifinals at the SEC tournament
was $236.
Oh, no.
It is $33, right?
Oh my goodness. Are you kidding me?
It's goddamn $200.
What happens when Tennessee loses in the afternoon?
It was $236 this morning.
And it is $33 right now.
No way.
That is unbelievable.
All right, we'll take a break.
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Arizona lost night, so it's probably going to be the case.
North Carolina will be a one-seat.
And Florida's up 22 now.
That's unbelievable.
On Alabama.
Well, I mean, at one point, A&M was up like 17 on us.
Yes.
So, yeah.
Chase is sitting over here watching the show, so we brought him over.
What was your question?
You asked me a question I liked.
What was it?
Didn't you ask me a question?
What?
Oh, you asked me if I stayed in the arena.
I did.
Maybe I should have left.
I stayed in there.
That's hard for me.
I will tell you, had they cut it to five or six, I might have walked out, like, at the very end.
But it was just the, it was large enough that I didn't really think we were going to come back, so I stayed in.
That whole second half, I felt to myself, they don't have it.
I honestly am the same way.
At halftime, we saw Dane Bradshaw on the back, and I just said,
And we both were like.
It just doesn't feel like they have it.
No.
You know, they just didn't.
Even I didn't, they cut it to three at one point in the second half,
and I'm thinking, I still didn't think they were going to be able to pull it off.
Yeah, it just felt like we couldn't get the stop.
Couldn't get a stop.
In an important moment.
And it was scoring at will with ease.
Yeah.
What was the score at halftime?
The scored halftime was 4640 or something?
48-42.
48-42.
So they scored 48 in the first half.
and then they scored 47 in the second half.
Pretty consistent defense.
They pretty consistently beat us the whole time.
Who's next?
Ben.
Ben, go ahead, Ben.
Hey, how's it going, Matt?
Doing good.
Hey, I want to apologize.
I've been yelling all night in Bridgestone, and I'm a little horse.
I'm sorry about that.
We did the same thing.
I've been crying, too.
But the first thing I want to say is Gabe is going to
destroy you in top golf tomorrow.
He is good at it because it's all about hitting
into those little things.
Exactly.
But the thing is you get bonus points
for hitting the back of the net.
And I can hit the back of the net and Gabe
can't, so that's good. But go ahead.
I want to say
I've never been
more excited about a group of players
and more
dissatisfied with their performance.
It's upsetting,
but I love these guys. They're great.
It's a great group of guys.
It is. You're right about that. I love the guys too. That's partially, I think, why it's so disappointing to people is because everybody really likes them. They're a really, really likable group.
For sure, for sure. And my only question is, will we see you in Glasgow in August, even though you might be upset with the area after recent events?
No, no, I appreciate the call. If the things in August, I think I can be there. I'll be gone a lot other parts of the summer.
but I'll be back by then.
You've been to that thing in Glasgow many, many years in a row.
Hopefully we're coming off, you know, a better performance.
One person writes, Matt, when we lost, I thought, well, I'll be able to get a table at KS Bar tomorrow.
Yeah, you probably will, actually.
That's, oh, goodness.
Can we get one good march for that restaurant?
Good night.
That's what people they think that we relish.
Anybody who thinks we want, I want Kentucky to lose is an insane person.
They don't understand that's our livelihood.
That's our money.
You are an insane person.
Like tomorrow and Sunday, we would have been doing shows the whole time.
Like, I had everything worked out with a producer at ESPN so I could do the post-game show right before the selection show.
Like, none of it, you know, it stinks.
For better or worse, part of the reason you hear.
Me and Ryan does it too get so worked up and sometimes is that it matters to us.
Yeah.
Like it's not a job to me.
It's up my life, you know?
And so it stinks when it stinks when we lose.
And it stinks.
It just stinks seeing how disappointed everybody is.
Like walking out of the arena.
It just stinks.
Well, our caller Xerxes came over here.
He could barely talk.
Couldn't even talk.
He could barely talk.
He was so disappointed that like he could barely.
talk.
Yeah.
And that dude calls you hearing.
He said, I'm going to loss for words.
I don't know what I can say.
Who's next?
Thomas.
Thomas.
What's up, Thomas?
Yeah, I'm having a hard time here for a couple of reasons.
First, I usually hang up with someone makes a point that I want to make.
And, you know, like you or somebody else makes it, I hang up.
Here's my point.
It makes him so mad.
There's data.
There's statistics.
We've got five guys when you put on the court are fantastic.
put them on the court when you start the freaking game edge of the beginning.
We don't do that.
Yeah, that is, I mean, there are numbers that are obvious that show that our best lineup is three of the four of Reed, Reeves.
First of all, let's go back.
Our best lineup has Reed and Reeves in it always.
Yes.
Then, either Dillingham or Wagner, then either Edwards or Thierro, then big.
That's the lineup.
Yep.
Now, sometimes it changes who those people are, but that's the lineup.
And that should always be the lineup.
Yep.
Now, maybe there's a game where you play four guards because they go small.
Maybe there's a game Mitchell play center.
We went on an 8-0 run with Mitchell at the 5.
Yes, we did.
And we immediately subbed in Z and they scored.
Because you told the guys you were sitting beside, this is the lineup we beat North Carolina with.
We were down 16 and we were.
we cut it to eight in like a minute with that lineup.
So, sir, I'm kind of with you.
Like the numbers are what they are.
Unless there's foul trouble or they're tired,
Reed Shepard and Antonio Reeves should always be on the court.
Unless they're tired or there's foul trouble.
But the one lineup that...
Always.
There was a time, I don't know if this is updated.
There were 34 lineups that had played over 40 plays or whatever.
And our starting lineup was 33rd out of 34 in a 50.
And that's what we start.
It's like it is sort of mind-boggling.
He's a great coach.
He really is.
But when the data overrules him, he don't care.
He really don't care.
He doesn't look at that data that overrules him.
It just, ah, drives me crazy.
Yeah, I appreciate the call.
I just, I'm sitting here just rethinking that game again.
You go down 8 to 1 and just you're battling uphill the rest of the
the night.
And we, well, I think somebody told me we led 15, 14.
I didn't remember.
I don't remember that at all.
But I do know it was 8-1.
Yeah.
They switched the lineup.
Switched the lineup.
They went on a run.
So who's next?
Derek is next.
Derek, how are you, Derek?
I would be better if we would have won, but I'm frustrated, Matt.
Yeah, I understand.
I mean, this matters to BBN.
We plan our weekend around this,
this tournament.
I mean, we have stuff to do just because, you know, we look forward to the game on Saturday
and Sunday.
I rush home from church on Sunday to watch the championship.
I'm not going to watch it now.
I'm not going to pick up the, I'm not going to turn to basketball.
Yeah.
I'm not going to turn to basketball until selection.
You know, it's frustrating.
This means something to us.
It's a big deal.
We can't be the gold standard.
We can't win a championship if we can't play decent.
and, you know, all the championship teams
that you look back that we've won,
we did good in the tournament, the SEC tournament.
And I just, I'll be surprised if we make it past the first week.
Well, I mean, listen, history is very clear,
and I appreciate the call.
You don't have to win your conference tournament,
but you've got to be pretty good at it.
Yep.
And we haven't in the last few years.
Now, maybe that'll change.
I mentioned we've won eight titles
when the SEC tournament was going on,
it hasn't been going on in all the times we've played.
But when it's been going on, we've only won a title when we made the championship game.
And I think, as I did this morning, going back to 93, 92, I don't think we've had a team that ended up making a run in March that didn't get to the championship game.
If we had a team that made a run, let's say, to the elite eight.
in March that hasn't made the championship game of the SEC tournament.
I think we did in the 80s once, but I don't think we have since 92.
I think every team that's made a run has made the finals of championship.
We honored a man tonight at halftime that took our Kentucky basketball team to the championship
game nearly every year.
And the years that he did it, you're right.
They made big runs in the NCAA tournament.
Well, Cal started out.
Cal in the SEC tournament in his first seven years or eight years was 23 and three.
he's one and five in his last six games that's that's um bearable it's embarrassing one and five in the last six games he was 23 and three
that's way it should be yeah we come to your town we come to this town and we own it not leaving early
uh who's next keith keith what's up keith all right i got three quick hits i'm a right-handed guard i only drive left for layups
but I miss the rim every time.
I kill it in the first half.
All my threes.
I scored 13.
I'm a lottery pick.
I decide to shoot twice in the second.
And wait a second.
Wait a second.
Texas A&M just made another layup over our big men after burning our guards.
All true.
I mean, unfortunately, all true.
I mean, you know.
DJ didn't have the best night.
DJ didn't have a good night.
Shepard didn't shoot in the second half.
Reeves was in foul trouble.
But of all those things,
I think all of those things are,
you could still win.
The fact that we couldn't stop anyone,
and then our bigs couldn't stop it either.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
That's part of it.
It's like, not only could we not stop ball,
when we doubled, we,
we double, and they'd still score.
They'd still score
That was what was baffling to me
And in the first half we played Ugo some
And they'd miss
And then they'd get the offside rebound and get a lap
I think Ugo only got two rebounds tonight
How much?
He didn't play that much
Probably 20 minutes probably
Oh you think you played that long?
I'm guessing
19 minutes, two points
Yeah, see you can't
If you're playing 19 minutes
And you're 7 foot two
You can't get two rebounds
Yeah you just can't
and they tried to get Z going out there a little bit
he got tired he got winded yet take him out one time
Justin Edwards missed another wide open layup
for a guy who's playing so much better he is he struggles so much
finishing at the rim I thought he was one of the guys that seemed tense
just seemed I no doubt he seemed tense yeah I thought he was tense
I thought Wagner was tense
I think one of the reasons he played Trey Mitchell so much as he wasn't his
tense I thought Ugo was tense yeah
I thought Bradshaw was tense.
Yeah.
Z, maybe not so much.
I didn't feel like Reeves was tense, Dillingham, or Theero.
Reed, I don't, tense isn't the word.
He just didn't shoot in the second half.
I think that the guard that was guarding him threw him off.
I really think it.
You did?
Yeah, in the second half.
First half, he didn't have to hear about it.
First half, that guy wasn't guarding.
No.
He was guarding Reeves.
Yeah.
And Dillingham.
and then they switched him to Shepard in the second half.
And I think that kind of threw Reed off his game a little bit.
Yeah.
One more, we'll take our last break.
Who's next?
Nick.
Nick.
Nick, go ahead, Nick.
Hello?
Hello?
Yes.
Go ahead.
Yes.
I'm sorry.
We got a couple points to walk up.
I already have like a about 20 points to make.
I don't have time for that.
Well, I go for 6,175 miles this week just to get back home.
Sit down with my wife and watch this basketball game.
And I'll tell you what.
I was tired.
I was beat and it took everything for me to quit falling asleep before the game.
Plus, I had to put a ceiling fan on for my wife when I got home.
So my point is, you know, when you get up here in, for instance, for Cal,
it commonly, they say that every freaking time when something doesn't go right.
these kids are kids they're not robots
I'm so tired of that pitch that he's been
getting since he got here
yeah these kids can be coached and coach well
and do a better thing of coaching
the most frustrating thing is though
is as a wildcat fan
you can sit here and predict the game
on what the outcome's going to be
my wife fell to see for the first time and I couldn't even tell you
how many years
the play the game with him and only.
Yeah.
Well, you know, it's interesting.
It is frustrating.
I appreciate the call and get some rest, my friend.
It's interesting, the sort of Cal-isms.
If I were to give a piece of PR advice to Cal, you know, I know very few things in this world.
I know a little bit about PR marketing.
Stop with the phrases, right?
Yeah.
Stop with the phrases.
Like, stop with the, they're not, like, we've heard them all.
and when we lose, I'm with him.
I can't listen to they're not robots.
We're young, like that drives me insane.
You pick the roster.
That's right.
You know, you put the roster together.
You can't use young.
You can use young as an excuse in December, I guess.
But in March, if we're too young, then that can't be the roster.
By the way, I don't believe that.
We want a title with young guys.
Yep.
Right?
We went to a championship game with the youngest team we've ever had here in 2014.
But the young thing, like, you pick the roster, man.
It's your roster.
So, like, if they're too young, that's your thing.
But they're not too young.
We've had young teams win.
And we knew going to, this was his, his dudes.
He's always getting his guys.
And Antonio Reed's like 30.
True.
Like how young kid, not 30, but you know what I mean?
Like, for a lot of the game, we were playing Antonio Reeves fifth year senior,
Trey Mitchell, fifth year senior.
Yeah.
And Adut Thierro sophomore, right?
Reed Shepard projected number one draft pick.
Reop Dillingham project.
Like, how much?
What else do you need?
That's a great lineup.
What else do you need?
You know, all right, let's take a break.
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So Corey Price looked it up.
Since 1992, we have only once made the Elite 8 without making the championship game of the tournament.
In 2019, that was the Tyler Hero team.
We made the Elite 8 and lost in the semifinals.
We have never made the second.
weekend without getting to at least the semifinal.
So what does that say right now?
Well, ask me after I see the bracket.
No, I mean it.
Like, it's all going to be about the bracket.
Because I think it will still be a three-seat.
Because the teams we were fighting with, they lost two.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
They all lost two.
So, I mean, I just don't know who would take the...
Does it put us the lowest three-seed?
Could.
But I don't know that that matter.
So the way they do it, they try to balance the overall top four seeds.
Right?
So they want to add up the seed numbers and equal to the same or close to the same
when you add up one, two, three, and four.
But their initial attempt at it is to put you the closest to home in order.
So let's say we're the, right, let's just say the three seeds, just to give an example of how this works.
Let's say the three seeds are, right now it's projected Iowa State, Crate,
Duke and Kentucky.
Iowa State looks like they might win the Big 12.
So let's say that Iowa State is the highest, right?
And then let's say we were ahead of Duke and Creighton and everybody lost.
So let's just say we're second, right?
What they would do is they would look at Iowa State and say, which one are you closest to?
They'd say, well, that's Detroit.
And then they would say, okay, Kentucky, you're next.
Which one are you closest to, Boston or Dallas?
Look up and see, you look up Boston.
and I look up Dallas.
Let's see which one we're the closest to.
So.
From Lexington?
From Lexington.
So from, well, I'm from Nashville, so I don't know.
So how far does it say we are from Boston?
I can tell you hours.
Because the Dallas drives like 12 hours.
I'm going to do the starting point.
It'll be my house to Boston.
Yeah, see how close it is.
All right.
Which is closer.
It's finding the best route.
If I walk it, it's 13 days and 23 hours.
I think you should.
walk it. I definitely think you ought to walk it.
920 miles. All right. Now just put in
Dallas. I don't know. You gave me a different form of measurement than I
was using. So how far? Dallas, Texas. Yes. It's finding
the best route again. Yes. A route may be affected
by a flood warning. 873 miles.
So Dallas would be the closest. So if they
did it like that, then we would end up in Dallas as the
three seed with Houston. Now, the only way that wouldn't
happen is if Tennessee, right, was the two-seat instead.
So you see how that, so it's like hard to know.
Yeah.
Because we don't know.
It looks to me like Tennessee will be, while I take this next call,
Tennessee's probably going to be the highest two-seat.
See what Tennessee is closer to.
Is Knoxville closer to Boston or Dallas?
Because that's where they'll go.
And then we'll go to the other one.
That's going to be my prediction.
Okay.
See which one's closer.
While you're doing that, who's next?
Paul.
Paul, go ahead, Paul.
Hey, Matt, you were talking about how many horses do you need?
And I'm just going to rattle off a few names real quick.
We got the three R's, as I like to call them, Reed, Robin Reeves.
We got Bradshaw, Edwards, Big Z, Wagner.
In my opinion, that's seven dudes who will play in the NBA.
You throw in Thierro and Mitchell, who've got an excellent chance.
Now you're at nine guys.
We've got nine guys who've got a really great shot, if not, you know, almost shoe-ins to play in the NBA.
And we've got nine losses.
I mean, the last time we had nine NBA guys was 2015.
We went 30 and 1.
In 90s.
38-1, yeah.
38-1.
Yeah.
Oh, my bad.
Yes, 38 and 1.
Ninety-six, we had nine guys, and we won a national championship, nine NBA guys.
Now we got nine NBA guys in nine losses.
How do you do anything?
but hang that on your coach.
He's not playing the right guys.
You talked about it.
The efficiency, the plus minus.
He's not playing the right guys the most minutes.
He's not making the adjustments.
A simple zone would cut off all of these drives to the basket.
You know, a two, three zone, and you pack it in.
He's not doing anything.
And we're squandering one of the most talented squads,
Kentucky or maybe any team has ever had.
Yeah, I mean, I could.
Equival a little bit with I don't think Trey Mitchell play in the NBA, but like your overall point and I appreciate the call is not a bad one
I mean I there's a lot of talent and we should be better and
Nine losses is too many with this group
But again if you make a final four it's not gonna matter
Here's what I hate for Cal and I don't don't give you wrong. I don't feel sorry for Cal but what I hate for him is
he, and this is his fault, he has set it up where for many people,
the determination of what he is as a coach is going to come down to the next three weeks
or the next two weeks.
And with a career like he is, that's kind of unfair.
It is.
But he has set it up like this.
Yeah.
And we've talked about all the reasons why.
And so when this draw comes out, it's the most important draw we've had.
because there's a certain kind of draw that comes out
that I think we're the favorite to win the region.
There's another kind of draw comes out
that we can have a battle in the second round.
That's exactly right.
Play a team like Texas A&M in the second round.
Texas A&M is going to be in the tournament as a 12 seat.
All right.
I mean, they can play a five, upsets of five,
and then you're playing them, you know, if we're a four.
So which one's closer to Knoxville?
Amazingly, Lexington and Knoxville is the same distance.
to Boston. They're both 920 miles.
Okay. And how far is it to Dallas?
Closer. Knoxville to Dallas and Knoxville to Dallas and Lexington to Dallas both closer
than going to Boston. So that would mean if, okay, so again, using my logic there, if Tennessee
was the highest two, in theory, they send them to Dallas with Houston. And then they would send
Iowa State to Detroit.
So then that would put us in Boston with Yukon.
With Yukon.
And again, if we get in Boston with
Yukon, it's our fault.
Yes.
It's our fault.
Now, is that with North Carolina as the two also?
No, North Carolina's probably going to be the two out west.
Okay.
And then they'll end up throwing Arizona out there with them.
And the three that would go out there would probably be
Creighton, probably, that would end up out there.
which think about that.
If you're North Carolina, you get Arizona and Creighton.
We're going to be up there.
You've got to be feeling good about it.
And you know who in my scenario?
Let's say it plays out, like I said, guess who our three is?
Duke.
Or excuse me, Duke's the three.
The two would be, who are the twos?
Marquette would be up west, Tennessee would be in the,
or Marquette would be in the Midwest, Tennessee,
and who would be our two?
Well, I can't remember all these teams.
I'm getting old.
Because it's flipped it, because North Carolina,
moved up to a one.
North Carolina's a one.
Arizona's moved down.
Iowa State.
Who?
Iowa State.
Look at Lenardi's real thing.
Billy, as I take this call, pull up
Lenardi's thing and read me his most recent
thing he has. Okay.
All right, who's next?
Todd is next.
Todd. Go ahead, Todd.
Hello, Matt.
Yes.
As they,
misery loves company, so I thought I'd join in.
All right.
with nine minutes and eight seconds left in the game tonight,
I knew we was doomed.
They just didn't look like they had the energy.
And I really don't look for us to do much in the NCAA tournament.
I hate to be in negative Nancy,
but, you know, it's, it is what it is.
Well, it's not over yet.
Yeah, I'm not willing to give up yet.
We'll see.
But I understand.
I'm the same way you are.
I appreciate the call.
Read me who they've got is the two seeds there, Billy.
The two seeds are Iowa State, Marquette, Tennessee, and Arizona.
All right, so if they did that.
Tennessee goes to Dallas.
Then next would be Arizona.
They go to L.A.
and then you said Marquette and Iowa State
Marquette goes to Detroit,
Iowa State goes up to
Boston, Boston.
Which would have then us
as the three there.
So we'd look at Iowa State,
which is a horrible matchup for us.
That's it.
That's a Texas A&M.
That is a horrible sweet 16 matchup
against Iowa State.
That is not who you would want
if you were Kentucky.
I mean, I think having,
since North Carolina's a one,
and they won't put us with Tennessee,
the twos we could get would be Marquette who's perfect for us who I'd like to play
Arizona who I'd like to play or Iowa State who I'd rather not play
and if they did it the way I'm talking about which is the way they say they do it
Iowa State is the one we get can you imagine that that Sweet 16
will determine how we view the whole offseason are you going to lose in a Sweet
16 or are you going to win and at least make it to be a lead.
And we don't even know who our six seed would be.
That's true.
You got to get there.
You've got to get there.
And who knows what our sixth seed would be.
Six Seeds are teams like, well, Alabama's probably going to be a six seed now.
Teams like that.
Who's next?
Let's do four more and we'll call tonight.
Greg.
Greg.
Go ahead, Greg.
Hey, Mac, can you hear me?
Yes.
I said the last caller was very informative.
I'm not sure I'm going to have the same type of intellectual question.
But what I'd like to ask is tonight's game, I looked at the rebound stats, and it looked close.
It was 38, 34, and then you look at the second chance points, and it was 26.
or 26 to 9.
Yeah.
Total rebounds is kind of a misleading stat because it's a very total rebounds I've always thought
is kind of a misleading stat.
I think offensive rebounds is telling and then I think you're exactly right.
Points off off offensive rebounds is even more telling.
Total rebounds I've always found to not really tell you the story of the game.
Well, I agree with that.
But watching the game,
just seemed like we were getting crushed on the boards.
And when I looked at the stats after the game, I was going, well, that wasn't so bad,
but then, yeah, it really was.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's ultimately, I appreciate the call.
It's kind of like Cal always talks about this about turnovers.
You don't want to have too many turnovers, but there's a difference between turnovers
that lead to easy point, like bad turnovers are good turnovers.
Like a charge stinks, but it, they still got to take it out of bounds.
But a turnover at the top of the key where they get a breakaway layup, that's a bad.
That's really bad
And so
Points off off it
There's difference between a long rebound
Where they have to reset it up
And a rebound where they get an open layup
Right
So that's to me that's
That's a better way to look at it
And it did seem like tonight
They got a lot of
It just seemed that way
They got every rebound and it
converted it
Yes
They could
Every way they could convert
It felt like they could
Yeah I know it felt that way
You know
Three more who's next
Brad
Brad
Brad go ahead Brad
Brad
Ryan, Matt, what's up, fellas?
What's going on?
I just want to talk about something really not getting talked about a lot.
I think one of the biggest problems is not so much the different lineups and things.
I know we're bad on defense, but the games we've lost, we get bullied, right?
Yeah, we do.
We do.
And we gave up so many straight-line drives.
the basket this game and in other games that we've lost.
And if you notice, if you can go watch any segment of those games that we've lost,
what ends up happening is the big comes out and sets that high ball screen,
and our big lets their screeners just casually walk up and set the screen.
Our guy that's guarding their big should be bumping him.
It should be a fist fight for that guy to.
set that screen. I agree.
Watch NBA finals
or NCAA
tournament, a championship game,
a high level intensity, you know,
game. Guys, you don't
let somebody set a screen.
So I think if we could just make a
little tweak there and
make it hard for teams to screen.
But it's too late for that. I mean,
at this point, you know,
Cal said this in this post game,
and he's right. At this point, you kind of are
what you are, I mean, you're not going to change a whole lot in the next.
And I think, and those guys don't, they're not going to get stronger.
Yeah, they're not going to get stronger.
But you can, you can fight to not let a guy set a screen.
And then the other thing, you talked about it earlier, was our, we're not helping our help.
Because our help guys lies over.
And then there's wide open dunks.
The help the helper, which is a basketball phrase.
Our offside guard rebounding.
I've noticed this.
We get burnt, and I appreciate the call.
The only dude on our team that offside box out is Reeves.
He must have been taught it because he does a pretty good job of it.
The rest of them, poor DJ Wagner, if he's on the offside,
his man is always getting a rebound, always.
Like, they don't read.
Reed, Justin Edwards, the offside rebounds kill us.
They did all the whole second half.
Like, Hugo, when he goes to block a shot or Z,
his man has got to be boxed out by the offside guard.
And that's the guy that gets the rebound all the time.
And he's always the guy that gets the rebound.
Yep.
Because if Z or Ugo is going to go to block a shot,
if they're not going to block it,
you've got to box it.
out that man. And most of the time, our dude is just standing there. He's not even close to the goal.
Who's next? Jerry is next. Jerry, two more. Go ahead, Jerry.
Hey, first time call her, guys. Who are? What's up? That was when we, that was when Rob had the
turnover and Shepard Reeves missed the, the open looks.
We give a three out of the corners, an open three to it.
He never goes back. But that's what he always does. He always does that. The moment he
gives up a three he's done we can give up 15 straight points man and we stay but the moment
you and when you play zone you're gonna give up a three that's gonna happen but you got to stick with
it i'm with you we aband the moment they hit a three we abandoned it and we ain't going back
yes his ego is that yeah i'm just telling you not done it all year yeah we can't
why would we think we could yeah we mentioned earlier you mentioned earlier you mean
It's not good.
I mean, it's, you know, statistically, and I appreciate the call,
there are some numbers that are among the worst.
I mean, there just are.
I mean, that's not.
And again, I go back to the talent thing.
Okay.
Did they have the talent Calh at the beginning?
No.
But I'm going to give you some names.
Rob Dillingham, Reed Shepard, Antonio Reeves,
casein wallace who's playing minutes for an NBA title contender right now
uh taiti washington
isaiah jackson first round pick plays for the Pacers bj bj boston
seventh or eighth man for the la clippers who are contending for a title
doesn't even include davy o mince olivier saar who's played in the NBA
who's still in the NBA
you know
I mean
there's a lot of teams
in a one NCAA tournament games
with less players in the NBA than that
yep right
you can't argue the talent argument
because the talent has been
we had the college basketball players a year
I didn't even mention Oscar
I was just trying to do the NBA guys
I didn't mention Oscar
we'll do one more who's next
Joe
Joe go ahead Joe
Hey Joe
First off, Ryan, calling from Pike County, Indiana.
Go Chargers.
Oh, my goodness.
This is our first call we've ever had from my home county right here.
This is where I grew up, Pike County, Indiana.
Wow.
Well, maybe we can end on a positive note.
Go ahead.
Yeah, I'll try to keep it positive,
but I'm just kind of looking at the future,
like Calipari's recruiting style.
I'm a statistics nerd,
so I've been following the Kim Palm rankings pretty religiously,
and the defensive efficiency of this team over the last four years
just steadily gotten worse, and I can't wrap my head around it.
Well, let me do that real quick, and then I want you to make your point.
I'm going to go through our, now this is when the season is over,
so that does make a little bit.
Let me read you some defense numbers.
2010, 6th, 2011, this is Kentucky, 2011, 15th, 2012, 2012, 7th.
2013 and remember we were bad in 2013 uh yeah 2013 we were 68 14 uh we were 22nd 15 I think we were
first 6th no first all right now let me fast forward to the most recent years 20 in 21 which is
the COVID year we were 84th 22
36th, even though we were fourth in the country in Kim Palm, 36th in defense.
Last year, 78th, and to this year, we are 110th.
Says a lot right there.
That's a huge difference, sir, between when we were rocking and now.
Is he still there, or do we lose it?
He's still there?
You still there?
Yeah, I'm still here.
I just, like, it just seems like Cald Pardy's lost his recruiting touch with getting those guys that, like, your Anthony Davis is, your kid girl, Chris.
Well, there ain't a lot of those.
There are not a lot of Anthony Davises.
And again, though, but, like, sir, like, we got talent.
We don't, Anthony Davises don't grow on trees.
I mean, think about it.
Like, is there one in college basketball right now?
Is there a dude that's like that?
Not like Anthony Davis.
No.
I mean, and I don't know how many there have been, period.
in the last few years.
Like, those dudes don't really exist.
But even a guy with PJ Washington,
but like I just watched A&M tonight,
and it's like they would go as the,
or Trey Mitchell, like,
I don't care if they got a foot on me,
I'm going to score,
but in other years,
like even Josh Harrelson
was a presence in the post.
No, we were very, listen, we had dudes,
I mean, and I appreciate the call.
I mean, we did have a run of Biggs
that was DeMarcus,
Harrelson, Davis,
Noel, Randall, Towns, Willie.
That's a pretty good run of defensive guys.
But, you know, it is what it is.
And Kenny Payne was the big man guru during those days.
He was.
That was a heck of a run.
Well, tournament will come out Sunday.
I'll read the bracket on ESPN radio.
You can watch it on television.
We'll see where we are.
And then I think a lot of it's going to do.
depend on what that draw is.
Yeah.
And then we'll see what happens.
I think there's a very good chance
of first two games will be in Pittsburgh.
Not certain, but I think it's most likely,
probably 75% chance it's in Pittsburgh.
The regional could be anywhere.
So we'll see where we end up.
They need a good march to kind of help the fan base
recover from what happened there in Nashville tonight.
Yeah.
Well, have a good rest of the weekend.
Yeah, I'm going to play top golf tomorrow.
I'll tell you this.
Gabe and the turkey hunter going down
because I'm taking out my frustration on this.
I'm hitting the back net every time.
Gabe doesn't like it when you hit the back net
because he can't hit that far.
I'm going to hit the back net every single time.
Just start with your best.
Don't wait until a couple holes in to bring out your best.
Start with your best.
I'm going to drive with my six iron
until my first five shots.
And then we'll bring out everything else.
Go hilltoppers, by the way.
Oh, they won big.
So they're in the finals, right?
Yep, tomorrow against U-Tep.
I hope they win.
And the Florida win?
Did they beat Alabama?
102 to 88.
Wow.
Wow.
That's unbelievable.
102-88.
I had the over.
That's what we care about.
Yeah.
Ryan.
I'm going to walk to Dallas.
Have a safe trip home.
I'm letting you drive my car.
I'm going to drive your car.
Please drive it safely.
My driving record is not the greatest.
Please drive it safely.
I've got, I need it.
You know, just drive it safely.
Has the oil been changed?
It was changed very recently.
Just a couple weeks ago.
It should be in fine shape.
Gotcha.
Okay?
Where I hit Drew's car, there's a thing that comes up that says I don't have, what is it?
The thing that tells you you're about to hit something behind you?
Oh, yeah.
Whatever that's called.
It works, but it says it doesn't work.
So when you see that, though, that's just because of the thing I hit.
Don't let it throw me off.
Don't let it throw you off.
The car works immaculate.
All right.
We will see you folks later.
Thank you all for listening.
I guess we'll see you Monday morning.
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