KSR - NFL Cover Zero: 0-2 Chiefs, Burrow and Allen Injuries, and Power Rankings!

Episode Date: September 15, 2025

Matt Jones and Drew Franklin kick off another 'International Edition' of NFL Cover Zero with Matt in South Africa.  Matt wonders if kids should be allowed to fly in first or business class. ... What does the Chiefs loss to the Eagles mean for KC moving forward? Cowboys OT win was the wildest game of the day.  Do the Giants stick with Russell Wilson?  Matt is concerned with Joe Burrow's injury and thinks the Dolphins have to have questions about Tua Tagovailoa.   Matt tells some stories of his trip through South Africa.  Was this week's Steelers team closer to what they really are? The 49ers have to be happy with the performance of Mac Jones.  Drew wants to apologize for the Colts after Daniel Jones has carried them to a 2-0 record. Is this Lions team more what we're like to see this season?  Josh Allen breaks his nose, but seems like he's going to be fine.  How surprising is it to the Cardinals 2-0?   Matt and Drew adjust their Power Rankings after 2 weeks including asking what do you do with the Chiefs?  Matt wraps up with plans for his next few days in South Africa and has to comment on the Zach Bryan fence climbing situation!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and I Heart Podcast. It is week two of the cover zero NFL podcast. And of all the locations that I've done a show, I can tell you what I've never done one before. And that's where I am today. I am in the in Stellenbach, South Africa, at a ranch outside of Cape Town, ready to go. is local time 1 a.m. here with Drew Franklin, who is in Louisville. Billy is in Kentucky as well.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Drew, you know what? I stay up for you, and I don't know if anyone else in this town I'm in is watching the NFL today, but I was. First and foremost, glad to see you. Billy and I weren't sure that this whole international connection we have set up here would work, but it's working. Do they have red zone in South Africa? Were you able to keep up? Actually, I don't know if the NFL should. hear this, but if you get, what is it, a virtual personal network. So I bought it was 1299, and it says I'm in New York, and I guess the people here in South Africa were, did not, did not dispute it. So actually, I have gotten, it's kind of nice to be able to be here. You walk outside. I mean, it's, it's, it's March here, right? So if you were to do the, the weather things, so it's a little chilly outside, a little cold. This is, I'm staying on a, this is a wine ranch, like where
Starting point is 00:01:38 they make, I guess it's not a ranch. You don't call a wine ranch. What a vineyard? Is that what you would call it? Yeah. Vineyard winery? Yeah, it's like a wine vineyard. Flew to South Africa.
Starting point is 00:01:50 15 hours. 15 hour flight. That's a long flight. I don't know how long you think a 15 hour flight is, but it's longer than that. So oddly, I know a lot of people want to hear our NFL talks. I want to know what a 15 hour flight is. Like, what do you do? I mean, is it just movie, movie, movie?
Starting point is 00:02:06 So here's what I did. Got on the flight, started at 9 o'clock out of Newark. The guy, we got out a little late, and the pilot comes on and goes, all right, we're going to make up some time in the air, which I think is a really funny thing for a pilot to say. Like, just do that anyway. Just go fast. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:02:25 But we go, this is how long a 15-hour flight is. I watched the movie, The Drop. Have you ever seen The Drop? I don't know. It's a good movie. It's got the woman from White. Lotus, the woman from season two, the blonde woman who has kids that is different color eyes than the dad.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Okay, so it has that woman, a dude that I'm not familiar with, and they go on a date, and she keeps getting dropped messages from someone who's threatening her that keeps drop it, and they know he's in the restaurant because it's right. It's great. So I watched that. Then I watched not one, but two episodes of Gilded Age. And I'm like, okay, flight must be over now. And there are still nine and a half hours to go after that.
Starting point is 00:03:11 That is how long a flight to South Africa is. You can watch an entire movie, two Gilded Age episodes, and you're not, you're barely a third of the way there. So do you like, do you get up and walk around? I'd worry about my legs. Like, you just do yoga in the, in the aisle there? How do you stay loose? At one point I stretched.
Starting point is 00:03:30 I was sitting next to, you know, I'd splurged a little bit. So I was a business class. and there was a South African family. There were two parents that were very obnoxious. I'm just going to go on record to saying kids should not be allowed to fly first class. Like, when you're a kid, you shouldn't get that experience, right? I mean, they give them like a razor and lotion. What's a kid going to do with that?
Starting point is 00:03:55 Make your kids sit in economy. The parents get sick first class. Yeah, their legs aren't as long. They barely touch the end of the seat as it is. Put them in the overhead bin, actually. Don't even give them a seat. I'm not. If I would make my kids sit economy, you need to learn a lesson, kid.
Starting point is 00:04:12 You do not get to sleep. You don't get to sit up here. So they got on the plane. They started snoring immediately. And I just was staring them down, angry. Yeah, I walked around, did a little stretching. Tried not to, you know, stick my butt in people's faces while I was stretching. But it was good.
Starting point is 00:04:33 It's a long flight. I mean, what's weird is you leave me. New York and it's 9 p.m. and it's dark. And when I landed in it in Johannesburg, it was 7 p.m. the next day and dark. So I never saw any sunlight. A day just completely escaped without me seeing it. That was kind of strange. Just a day off your life, gone, just gone. Nothing to show for it. Just out of here. Think of what I could have accomplished in that day. Instead, I was sitting on the plane. But we're here. It's a beautiful, beautiful country. I haven't gotten to do a lot. because then I got here and immediately I'm at this conference and I was like all right everybody I got to go I got to go watch the NFL for a podcast which is exactly what people want to do in South Africa but I'm going to be here for the next two and a half weeks so our next four episodes will all be me somewhere in South Africa well so far so good on the technology standpoint we're a little concerned heading in but you sound loud and clear and glad to be linked up with you from the other side of the world to be in like the other side of the world to be in like the other side of the
Starting point is 00:05:36 world and still get to hear Ion Eagle. On the Titans game. I had them all day. I want you to think about for a second. You know, it wasn't that long ago. It was only like 115 years ago was when the first flight took place. And you know, back then, you couldn't even talk to somebody unless they lived on your street.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Like, you didn't even know there was anybody else in the world. And now you can get on a plane, fly to the other end of the world. and it's as if I and Eagle is still on your lap the whole time. Not that he's on my lap in Kentucky often. I'm just saying it still feels good that's able to happen. And I mean, who else would you want to take with you all around the world except I and Eagle? He can fit in the overhead compartment. I had something to say about that later because he was on my Titans game, but it's good you got to stay in touch with the NFL.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Why did you make me say that about him? That was not. There was a very nice, nice at all. Well, so, you know, we watched a lot of the games going through. I want to go through them with you. I picked out six that I thought were kind of the biggest games of the day with the biggest storylines, and then we'll run through the rest of them here over the course of the next hour. All right, let's just start it here.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Two games to begin. We'll do the Cardinals and the Panthers a little bit later. But Chiefs and Eagles Super Bowl rematch just finishes, and you get a win by the Eagles, 2017. Patrick Holmes throws a deep pass late, but they can't get a stop and the Eagles win. I think the storyline in this game is the drop
Starting point is 00:07:12 by Travis Kelsey that leads to an interception. If he catches that, there's a very good chance that the Chiefs win the game because they were driving to score and take the lead. Ends up turning the other way. Eagles score a touchdown 2010. Was this the day, Drew,
Starting point is 00:07:28 the music died? Is this the day that the era that we love, Patrick, Trevi, Andy, and his mustache, does it end today with that drop? You know, he's got a lot of criticism. I don't know I called him Trevi, by the way, but go ahead. He's gotten a lot of criticism. A lot of people are like, man, just retire, go be a billionaire with your soon-to-be wife. And I want him to beat those allegations.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Me too. I want him to be like, I got a little bit more left. Me too. be honest, as a fan, first game he runs into Worthing hurts him, second game, this interception on the goal line was horrible. He didn't kind of like throw it up a little bit where it could get caught by the Eagles. He has two huge errors for a 13-year veteran in two games. I'm worried that there is
Starting point is 00:08:16 some truth to that Kelsey should have just go ahead and shut it down. Is it just married life? I mean, you're you're married. I'm not. You've been engaged. You know, when you get engaged, I know your priorities, change. Is it just married life or is it that he's old? I don't want him to go out like this. I like him.
Starting point is 00:08:35 And I don't, we need to go out with her at the Super Bowl and him there. And it's like a music video. He can't go out finishing 7 and 10 and being replaced by a younger version of him, right? That dates Tate McCray. Look at a tape McCray mentioned on covers. I know. Look at that. We skew young.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Let's go Tate McCray. I don't think I know who that is, but I've heard the name. I'm so young that as soon as we're done here, I'm going to a Goo Goo Goo Dolls concert. That's how young I am. Blues Travelers opening, so I'll bet you all that on Wednesday. That's true. That's true. Tate McCrae's playing at their yogurt store to tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:09:16 So I'm going back. But I don't need Kelsey to ride off into the sunset with a ring and Taylor Swift performing. And it's this big NFL love story at the Super Bowl coming up. I just need him to not run into Xavier Worthy and not bobble a pass on the goal line that absolutely changed that game. That's what makes it so sad. If they make the playoffs and get knocked out in the first round,
Starting point is 00:09:39 that's the end, whatever. He had a good run. But it's sad seeing the two mistakes that he's made in the first two weeks of this season. Well, you know, if it is the case that time has ended for Taylor and that he's going to be replaced by someone new and exciting, I have another idea. I feel like NFL Cover Zero can,
Starting point is 00:09:58 then replace new heights as well. Let me make the case. All right, you and I are not brothers, but we've known each other long enough that we're almost like brothers. I am kind of the louder one. You're the funnier,
Starting point is 00:10:14 nicer one. You're the funnier, you have the beard. You have a married life. You have a married life. You can slam. I can see you going through a table. I do not date a pop star,
Starting point is 00:10:27 but I did pick broccoli out of Natalie Mbrugia's teeth one time. That's how Travis Matt Taylor. True story, which is essentially the same as Marion Taylor Swift. So, uh, is it? No, I'm sorry. Not Natalie Bruella. Natasha Beddingfield. There you go.
Starting point is 00:10:49 They're not the same people. Unwritten. Who's Natalie? You pick food out of so many pop stars' teeth. They all run together. There's Natalie Mbrulia. That is a person, though, is it? She's opening for blues traveler at the concert I'm going to next.
Starting point is 00:11:05 So, I mean, that's close to Natasha Benningfield. But anyway, I actually have done that. So I feel like Travis, exits football, we take over New Heights. And Natasha Beddingfield and I can have the next celebrity wedding. You like the idea? I think this is perfect. I mean, if I'm them, I'm shaking in my boots. Look at this podcast right now, knowing that Natasha Benningfield,
Starting point is 00:11:27 Adelaium Brulia got broccoli picked out of her team. And that Dollar Tree Jason Kelsey here is ready to go. You are a little bit of a dollar tree, Jason Kelsey. I got to grow it out a little more. I need to get a mustache and then I'll just be exactly like Travis. But Eagles get the way there to and oh. Are you out on the Chiefs yet? O and two, it's only like 10% of the teams that go O and two ever make the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Are you done? I was a, I had them in the playoffs. But this is a Bills or Ravens AFC for me. It's turned in the last year or two, but I don't have them as bad as they are off to the start. There's 0 and 2. They've got to be better than this. They're not a Super Bowl contender for me.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Both games have been close, and they've played good teams. I mean, but let me read you their next few games. All right. So they've got the giants on the road. Got to win that. Then they host the Ravens, not easy. Then at the Jaguars, host the Lions,
Starting point is 00:12:25 host the Raiders, the commanders go to the bills. That's a nasty schedule. And go to the Broncos. I mean, that's a, that is a brutal schedule. Let me just say, like, them making the playoffs is not assured, right? Oh, no. I mean, they've won that division for several years in a row.
Starting point is 00:12:46 I mean, the Broncos look good. Chargers already beat them. You're down a game to the Chargers. I mean, they're not a lot to win at all. In terms of games that I would say they're definitely going to win. Like, no question. You got the Giants, the Titans, but everybody else they play is good.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Like, I mean, they, the season from hell is at least on the table. Even that at Jacksonville, I mean, they should win that. But, I mean, it's not a lock. Got to win next week. Giants is a must win. If they lose, then I will take over for Travis Kelsey. All right, now we'll go to Seahawks Steelers. You want a fact?
Starting point is 00:13:28 Yeah. All right, Billy, you got to, we're going to, for each of these games, we're going to do a fun fact from Billy, at least from the good games. Billy, what's your fun fact for Eagles chiefs? Since 2021, the Eagles have run the Tush push 150 times. They did it twice in the fourth quarter, back-to-back times to score a one-yard touchdown.
Starting point is 00:13:48 How many of those 150 have they gotten? I don't have that number. But the next closest. That is not that great. Interesting. Because what if they hadn't gotten it any of the times? I mean, I could have gone zero for 150 on it. Yeah, I just hate it.
Starting point is 00:14:03 It's just a boring play. You hate it? Why do you hate it? Oh, let's just, let's all do a quarterback sneak and push the guy in front of us. Exciting play. So you just, you want excitement. You don't care if it doesn't do it for me. No, it seems like a loophole.
Starting point is 00:14:19 So it's going on the record, Billy is against the tush push. Generally speaking, I have always been of the view, stop it. and then they got rid of the shift in baseball, and it made baseball objectively better once they did it. I'm kind of the point that I think we got to start considering getting rid of the tush push, because it makes these third and ones and fourth and ones for Philadelphia just completely uninteresting. Yeah, especially when they get two looks at it. I was all for it that they found a little bit of a way to game the system.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Clearly, they have an advantage that no one else figured out, but it is to the point where maybe we should tighten up the rules a little bit where they can't get away with it. But other teams don't do it as well as they do. That's what I mean. That's why part of me wants to give them credit for figuring it out. Yeah, I do it. There's part of me that says, look, it's not like every team can do this. So maybe they should be rewarded. I think they end up keeping it. But it is warning time here for all things, Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Second game of the day, probably the wildest one drew Cowboys beat the Giants in overtime 40-37. I know you're a secondary Cowboys fan. But amongst Cowboys Giants game, this is. has got to be one of the craziest. What, three touchdowns in the last couple of minutes. You have a 64-yard field goal. You have an interception that was completely unnecessary to give the game to Dallas. What a wild win. And one that, for the Giants, that one's got to stink. After Sunday Night Football last week,
Starting point is 00:16:00 I thought we had our game of the year, but I'm ready to replace it in week two. Bill's Ravens out. I know, I know Cowboys' Giants doesn't have the impact of that game, but just from a sheer entertainment standpoint, this game was 17 to 16 at the end of the third quarter. They went on to score 44 more points, just trading licks back and forth. It's a long touchdown to Wondell Robinson, Neighbors with a bomb, Dak leading them back the other way. They're just trading licks, and it looks like when neighbors gets the touchdown,
Starting point is 00:16:30 they've gone up three and there's not enough time left for the Cowboys to have an answer. But Brandon Aubrey, and these new kicker football... These kickers, I don't understand. 64 yards. And as a Cowboys fan, it's the last leg of my parlay also and my survivor pick with you all. So I'm fully invested. And I'm livid because I thought Schottenheimer messed up. He hands off a draw instead of trying to go farther to settle for a 64 yard field goal.
Starting point is 00:16:57 64 yard field goal. Even the announcers are like, what are they, this is kind of a gamble. They could have gotten a few more yards. But then Brandon Aubrey. Well, exciting game. Here is how I was at a dinner and we had a South African journalist speaking and I had made a deal with the leader of my group that I was going to go ahead and have Red Zone on my phone under the table. Okay. So, you know, which is what you do.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Like, you don't want to have it on the table when a South African journalist is speaking with you. You have it under the table. So I would look down like I was looking at my feet, but I was watching Red Zone. And Wondell Robinson scores that touchdown for the Giants. and, you know, he went to Kentucky, which is, which is our school. And I got excited and kind of hit the person next to me and said, Wondell. And the person next to me is a woman that I don't think has ever watched football before.
Starting point is 00:17:52 And she had to look like, okay, no reason to hit me. And I don't know what that means. And I was like a love tap on the leg. But, yeah, you shouldn't do that because then I lost service and I didn't get to see the end. So I missed the insanity and it came right back on when we had the 64 yard field goal. Well, I think Wondell's touchdown came with two minutes left. Kentucky guy that was sharing for the Cowboys. I also yelled at Wondell. I was upset. I thought that was the game. No, there was still two more touchdowns after that and the 64 yard field goal. In an overtime,
Starting point is 00:18:26 we didn't mention this yet. The Giants were in a no-lose scenario. They could have tied. They have the ball a minute and a half. You're not going to lose. The key there, at least in my opinion, is do not lose, and they found a way to do the one thing you would do, which is throw an interception and lose. And Russell had such a great game otherwise over 400 yards, the big throws to Robinson and neighbors in the fourth quarter. But he just basically punted to the Cowboys on a deep ball into double coverage that didn't stand a chance.
Starting point is 00:18:57 I mean, the Cowboys secondary basically calls a fair catch waiting for the ball to land in his arms. It was such a lob throw to him. And then Dak leads him down for Arbor to kick the game winner. horrible look for Russ. Do you feel like, I mean, Russ played pretty well until that. There were fans all week wanting Jackson Dart. I don't think you go to him yet, right?
Starting point is 00:19:17 I mean, even though they're 0-2, Russ did enough to keep the job, wouldn't you agree? Yeah, Russ looked really good. The interception aside, up until that point, he didn't have any turnovers, three touchdowns. There was a moment where Dart came in the game for one play, and even the announcers thought they were making a coaching change, but it was just kind of a long-
Starting point is 00:19:35 change. That would have been a recent. I think they should make the coaching change. They even fooled the announcers because they're like, oh, they're benching Russell Wilson and he's having a good game, which is weird, but it was a one-off. But the crowd did get into a little bit when Dart came in, but it was just one snap there. Yeah, I think you keep Russell. And for the Cowboys, that's a big win that keeps their fan base from losing it. I still don't understand. Like on that last overtime drive, I still don't understand coaches and time management. it's awful. Even from NFL coaches,
Starting point is 00:20:07 they don't understand that the one thing you've got to do there, either tie or lose, or excuse me, tie or win. The one thing you're not going to do is lose, and the Cowboys found a way to do it, and that's part of the reason, excuse me, the Giants found a way to do it, and that's one of the reasons that they, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:22 have the problems that they do. Bingles get a win against the Jaguars. We'll talk about the game, but the big story is Joe Burrow. Apparently a toe injury, likely out for a few weeks. The Bengals are 2 and 0, though. So after years of starting poorly,
Starting point is 00:20:40 if you're ever going to have a time to lose your quarterback for a little bit, this is it. But they end up still winning the game. I do think that's important because these are games, if you look at week one and two, those are games in the last five years. Bengals have lost that game time and time and time again. And this time they win it.
Starting point is 00:20:58 You know, Jake Browning. Is this it? Jake Browning? those 92 yards on the final drive, Jake Browning may not have to buy Skyline Chili in that town for a long time, right? He looked pretty sloppy until that point, but when he put the game-winning drive together to put them up a 2-0 on the year, you know, it's a big game,
Starting point is 00:21:17 but either team could have gone 2-0, and Jake Browning does it for the Bengals. Sadly, Bingles fans have kind of gotten used to Jake Browning because they don't know a good job of taking care of Burrow. But a huge win for the Bengals, and no surprise that Jamar Chase got going, especially earlier with Burrow after last week that offense looked so bad
Starting point is 00:21:35 the bingoes at least got 31 points and look to have some life again. Let's talk about Jake Brownie. Let's take about Jake Browning for a second. Jake Browning, I'm going to give you some Jake Browning facts, all right? Because I love when a good backup quarterback comes in. Jake Browning, do you know where he was drafted?
Starting point is 00:21:54 Like where, to which team? No, no. Like what team? Oh, I have no clue where he was drafted. The answer is he was not drafted. He was signed as an undrafted free agent. from the Minnesota Vikings. Do you know where he went to college? I know he's Pac-12, former Pac-12.
Starting point is 00:22:10 He's a West guy. Good call. Washington. Washington. That's exactly right. I was saying it, as you said it. I'm counting that. He went to Folsom High School in California,
Starting point is 00:22:21 home of Folsom Prison Blues. That's right. The Johnny Cash song was sung in his home county. I had no word if he actually went to. Folsom prison at any point. He has the national record for most touchdowns in high school. That's probably something you didn't know. And this is kind of interesting.
Starting point is 00:22:43 He committed to University of Washington. He got a degree in business, and he was direct, this is on his Wikipedia. He was directly admitted to the Foster School of Business as part of his recruitment. Apparently, that's a hard school to get in at Washington. They went ahead as part of his recruitment and guaranteed him in mission. into the difficult class at the Foster School of Business. Should that be an illegal recruiting violation? Yes, that makes me angry.
Starting point is 00:23:11 I have a personal story here. Not only did he make the NFL, which is against the odds, I got denied business school and I had to write a letter to get accepted. Luckily, they accepted my letter, but I had to go to like this second step and beg to get in. Wait, you went to business school? Yeah, Gatton College of Business. Oh, for undergrad. And I started to go get my MBA, and then this little job called Kentucky Sports Radio came around.
Starting point is 00:23:33 I'd like to see what you would have done with your MBA. Well, Jake Brownie. But I can't get into business school and they're just giving him admission just to come play football. You also didn't break Maddie Mock's high school football touchdown record. Travis Hunter, big pass interference there towards the end of the game. And then Trevor Lawrence and Liam Cohen, listen, I've seen the hand gestures and facial expressions of couples that are on the rocks. I've seen when they look at each other and then go, shut up, I don't want to hear it. This is week two for them, and they already have a look of a couple that I'm going to start thinking,
Starting point is 00:24:13 you know what, I'm not sure if this is going to work. Yeah, and I did some snooping on the Jaguars Twitter or the Jaguars message board. Those things do exist, by the way. There's a Jaguars message board? They're very worried about the Cohen-Lorence connection. They thought they had this great offensive mind coming in to get Lawrence back on the right track. Been a little bit of a disappointing after he's a college star. Looking like it's in trouble already.
Starting point is 00:24:37 I don't know which one's got to go, but those two aren't on the same page. You got Cohen hitting him in the chest like this. You got Lauren needs to change in the play. Cohen needs to chill out. All right. So he was doing that wolf of Wall Street. Like, Liam, stop. All right, dude, you are.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Oh, oh. Like, stop it, Liam. You are a dork. All right, we know it. The NFL guys, it's the same thing with Mike McDaniel. You dudes coach it in Florida. Just be the dork you are. Stop trying to be a tough guy.
Starting point is 00:25:09 If I was Trevor Lawrence, you know, Trevor Lawrence with that hair, to go through life with that hair, he's a lot tougher than Liam. I would just tell him, Liam, stop it. And then just act like a dorky coach and not like a tough football guy. They do look in trouble. Although they scored 27, I still think the Jaguars are going to win that division, depending on what happens.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Now, for each of these games, as we said, we're going to have Billy's fact of the game. I actually skipped over the Cowboys Giants. What was your Cowboys Giants fact, Billy? Yeah, the Giants have struggled in that series. They've lost nine consecutive games on the road versus Dallas. And now overall 16 of the last 17 games played. And Dallas hasn't even been that good during that period of time.
Starting point is 00:25:52 16 of the last 17. That's pretty bad. All right. So now Bingles Jaguars, what's your fun fact for this one? Yeah, it's been slow starts lately for Cincinnati and Zach Taylor. but Cincinnati is now 2-0 for the first time since 2018. And to go along with that game, Travis Hunter, had 81 snaps, 42 on offense, 39 on defense. Do you blame that for the past interference there at the end?
Starting point is 00:26:16 Do I blame him? I was asking Drew, but you could jump in, too, if you want. Do you blame it? I mean, 81 snaps. That's a lot. Yeah, and I know it's fun to see someone do this and try to go both ways. they need to lock him in on offense. I know he played a lot more defense last week
Starting point is 00:26:35 after he played six snaps a week ago, but there's been a couple of mistakes. It's like that's just asking so much of a person to know two positions in the NFL and not just know them, like, be it actual, he's a starting receiver and the second cornerback. Like, that's too much to ask him.
Starting point is 00:26:50 And I'm not even sure. I don't know that I see the value yet because I'm not sure that he's elite at each of them yet. My question would be, are you going to ever, if you're playing in a Super Bowl, are you going to play him 81 plays? If the answer is no, then why are you doing it now? Right? I think it makes much more sense to pick one side than put him in spots on the other.
Starting point is 00:27:13 But to try to do that like he did tonight, I think you're going to get that result most of the time. But congrats to the Bengals for winning, we'll see what happens with Burrow. Luckily, it's not an injury. It seems like that will keep him out for the year. But the Bengals have a 2-0 start, so that will help. Patriots and Dolphins. Dolphins looked like most of the game they were going to be able to win this
Starting point is 00:27:33 end up losing it at the end. You know, this was, to me, I don't know, man, Tua, that interception was awful. I know his offensive line doesn't do any, many help, but I think Tua, I don't know, man. I feel like the Tua era is coming to an end
Starting point is 00:27:55 and it makes me sad. I thought that last week, I thought literally they were just going to shut down the Dolphins organization a week ago if they gave them. They were better this week. Much better. Now, they were a red zone watch for me. So I only saw when we're cutting to them because something's happening.
Starting point is 00:28:10 But they're putting up a lot of points. There's a lot of stuff happening though. Back-to-back return touchdowns. You don't ever see that got them in back-to-back. Do you like the new rule, by the way, that seems to encourage guys to run it out? I don't, I have to tell you, I don't understand the rule. It seems like guys stand still and then some old man on the sideline goes, okay, now you can go.
Starting point is 00:28:29 And they kick it short, and I can't figure out the logistics of it, but it does seem to make it more exciting. I'm still getting used to that. I haven't come to a complete verdict on if I like it or not. I think I lean. I miss the old way, but I understand for safety while they had to do it. But you mentioned the back-to-back returns in this game. It's like a 74-yard punt return.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Guys going crazy, swings momentum in the Dolphins away, and then boom, Patriots kick return the other way. That was one of my favorite moments of the day. Red Zone just happened to be on that, getting two. I think the kick return was 100 yards. So you got two yards. Nearly length of the field returns. Well, they're now making it to where I guess the goal is to pin them at the like one yard line when they catch it every time.
Starting point is 00:29:11 And it leads to a lot more excitement. I mean, I think they had more returns in week one than they had in the first three or four weeks combined last year. And then you get these kicks this year. I think the kicking game is now the return game is part of football again. So I like it. It's one and one. Dolphins are 0 and 2. We definitively said to dolphins were the worst team in the NFL last week.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Are you going to change that? I'll admit, I'm guilty, and we know there's overreactions after week one. I was ready to shut down the dolphins forever and really cut off Miami from the rest of the state of Florida. They look so bad. But much better showing today gets the Patriots. You know, they're not a playoff team, but they aren't absolute suck like they weren't. I still think they're the worst team. I think you're going to end up with a situation in about three or four weeks,
Starting point is 00:29:56 two is not playing anymore, and they're going to be hideous. I'm going to go ahead and predict they're finishing three and 14. Oh, that's not the worst team. You think there'll be somebody worse than three and 14? Saints really suck and the Titans kind of suck. But it's going to be hard. Like, you look at that Miami schedule. Find me wins.
Starting point is 00:30:15 It's not easy. It's not easy to find a bunch of them. This was, I mean, Home against the Patriots was one of the ones you've thought like they they might have the best chance. Billy, what's your fun fact? New England scored 30 points. in a game for the first time since October of 2022. That can't be true.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Really? That's it. Because of October. Billy, that's not true. I'm throwing a challenge flag. You're telling me they have not scored 30 points since October 2022. It's a good stat, Billy, if accurate. Billy, if that's, listen, if that stat is accurate, then I'm going to bring you back some famous Stellenbach wine.
Starting point is 00:30:55 because apparently it's very famous. I didn't know this was even a city, but apparently Stellenbach wine is known for its taste. And Billy, I don't think that fact is right. Can you double check that? I will double check, and I will start to look up Stellenbach to see what flavor of wine that I'd like.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Is that red wine? I don't want Billy to spill red wine on his Tate Rattlidge, Jersey, you owe him. They have both. Give me drinking wine and his Tate Routledge. It's S-T-O-L-Rat-Rat. E-L-L-E-N-S-B-O-E-C-H. I was trying to follow that. That was a lot of letters.
Starting point is 00:31:36 That was trying to keep up with that. Wait a minute. I still got more letters to come. That was just the first half. Those are they up in gifts on this podcast, by the way. This is we keep a sure. Okay. So they tell you, by the way, one of the things they tell you, by the way, one of the
Starting point is 00:31:55 they tell you in South Africa when you're in, I was in Johannesburg last night. And they're like, do not go out in Johannesburg at night without someone with you. Like, don't walk down the streets, et cetera. And they get you to where they're almost, you're kind of scared, right? Like what could possibly, what could possibly be happening? So I'm staying in this hotel. Drew, there's a yogurt store directly across the street. I can see it.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Okay. We're in like a neighborhood. literally this could be anywhere in America. You would see the yogurt and you would see the place and you'd go, I can go get that yogurt, right? So I walked the front desk and I say, I'm going to go walk and they go, where are you going? And I was like, well, first of all, none of your business, right?
Starting point is 00:32:45 I'm a free man, right? I'm, I'm for it. I said, I'm going across the street to get yogurt. And they go, we'll sit in some. somebody with you. And I went, what? I'm sending somebody with you. Like, I'm not a child.
Starting point is 00:33:03 It's right there. And I said, that won't be necessary. And they're like, and I, because I'm thinking they're wanting to tip, right? That's what I'm thinking. So I said, it's not necessary. They're like, okay. So then I walk across the street. Well, it occurs to me as I'm walking across the street.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Maybe this is really bad. But if they don't even want me to walk across the street, well, walk across the street, walk to the yogurt store, beautiful yogurt store. Okay, the kind of yogurt store that when you think about yogurt, you think about this place. I walk up to the front, this counter, the woman goes, how did you get here? I said, I walked across the street and she gave me a look like, whoa, I didn't know I had Mr. Brave here. So she asked me what I wanted, and I said I would like one scoop of strawberry yogurt and a strawberry lemonade. And then she looks at me and goes, okay, Mr. Strawberry.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Which I thought, well, there's no need to judge my order like that. What's wrong with two strawberries? But now they've kind of freaked to be out, Drew. I have my yogurt. I have my lemonade. There's no one around. But now I'm scared to leave the yogurt. And I walk outside and the man from the hotel runs across the street to meet me to walk me back to the hotel.
Starting point is 00:34:37 And I have to tell you, for my purposes, it was fine. But now I do have to wonder, like, what is happening at this yogurt store where everyone is so scared about just walking to the yogurt store? Matt, died doing what he loves from going to get South African yogurt across the street. Mr. Strawberry died the way he loved to live. Did you consider getting the security for the trip back after a second opinion had told you this is a bad old-do? At the moment, I thought it was so ridiculous that I wouldn't walk across the street. But then, you know, you start to think and you go, maybe this is this yogurt source is just all an elaborate plot. It's a front for kidnapping.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Yogurt Gate in South Africa. So if I, just with the record, if I were to disappear the next two and a half weeks, first place I would look is at the yogurt store in Johannesburg. Billy. We'll follow the trail of strawberry. Where's your staff? Correct. It is.
Starting point is 00:35:36 The last time the Patriots scored 30 points, October 16th, 2022 at the Cleveland Browns. They won 38 to 15. The most points the Patriots scored in one game last year was 25. Oh, that's amazing. That is an offensively inept team. if that becomes your most amount of points. All right, Seahawks Steelers. This is the Aaron Rogers that I was hoping for this year.
Starting point is 00:36:14 And Aaron Rogers throws two interceptions, has a daze look at his eye, makes Mike Tomlin punt because he's worried that he's not going to be able to convert any fourth downs. This is the Aaron Rogers I signed up for. Not the Aaron Rogers we saw last week throwing it all over the field. I'm mad. I'm mad, Matt. I rank the Steelers as my 32nd watchable team.
Starting point is 00:36:34 I said they're going to. suck. Terrible decision. Then last week, they looked like a Super Bowl contender, made my take look terrible. And then this week, even though they weren't just, they weren't horrible. But Rogers did throw two interceptions. You lose the game. I thought they should have won.
Starting point is 00:36:49 I think maybe a little bit of an overreaction from week one. This Steelers are probably a playoff contender team, but not one of the elite AFC fighting for an actual run team. The Seahawks did what probably the Jets should have done more of last week, which is put pressure. just pressure pressure. Aaron Rogers does not want to be hit. It's clear.
Starting point is 00:37:08 When you get old, there's some things that don't go well for you. I will tell you this, when I got off that plane after that 15-hour flight, my back was left in Mogadishu. Like it hurt and it took a while. That's what happens when you get old. Aaron Rogers does not want to fall to the ground. He doesn't want to get hit. You got to bring the pressure.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Seattle did that. And they get the win. Are they like sneaky, potentially really good? I mean, that's a good win to go on the road and win at Pittsburgh. I picked it, by the way. But it's still a very good win. And, I mean, a week ago, you'll lose on an improbable completion there in the end zone. They should be 2 and O right now.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Yeah. And really threatening. They're looking good. The Donald experience has a little bit of legs a little bit. But on the Steelers end, they have like win now mode because Rogers, we can all agree. It doesn't have a lot left. I know they're a long-term option. But, I mean, they also paid a lot.
Starting point is 00:38:04 of money for Jalen Ramsey, who probably doesn't have a lot left. He's looking good right now, but he's also an older guy. You went out and you get D.K. Metcalfe. He's young, but he was expensive. So they're all in on kind of winning immediately. And they're going to be just good enough to not get one of the top picks. So it's going to be, it's just a, I'll never understand why they did Aaron Rogers. I thought last week after he played well, I might eat my words. This was more kind of what I expected all along. Billy, fun fact on Steelers, Seahawks. Well, yeah, and Caleb Johnson and turning his back on that kickoff was bizarre too. But the Steelers were outscored in the final two quarters, 24 to 3.
Starting point is 00:38:41 It's the first time the Steelers have given up 30 points in consecutive games since November of 2021. So trouble in paradise when it comes to Steelers. Look at you. I mean, I love when you come up with all these. I don't want to ask. I don't want to know how the sausage is made. I don't want to know where Billy's getting these numbers. I want to think.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Are you next gen? Do you have a subscription? Maybe a little next gen. The first part of the screen that you can watch without subscribing, yes. We're on the free trial. Wait a minute. You go to next gen and you read the part of the article that's free. And it's really.
Starting point is 00:39:21 We just get like the summary and then maybe a couple bullet points on the quarterbacks. Oh, we got to get you to log in. Come on. I love it. So, like, people can predict the Billy's stat of the game by just going, not logging in. And whatever you see there, Billy's going to be using one of those stats. We'll have all that info every week. Glad to know that.
Starting point is 00:39:46 We'll get you below the paywall eventually. Yeah. Well, we're going to have to get a second season, I think, first before that. 49ers and Saints, Mac Jones. Who? Mack Jones, three touchdowns coming off the bench for, Brock Purdy. I said the 49ers can get a crazy record.
Starting point is 00:40:05 They could have lost both of these games to start the year, but they've won them both and our 2-0. Yeah, I think the Saints are the worst team in the league, and I was a little worried about the Niners, even though playing a horrible team because their injury report was ruthless this week, especially offensively. That's how you end up with Mack Jones, but not a drop off at all without having party.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Mack look great, three touchdowns, no interceptions. Got Joanne and Jennings and Christian McCaffrey going, so they got a little life. What is less intimidating than the play two minutes to go when we come back? Spencer Rattler has the ball to drive down the field and take the lead. How many T, that was a tease that occurred today. I have to tell you it wasn't one that I found very compelling, or do you, was I wrong to kind of assume the result we got?
Starting point is 00:40:57 No, but if you're a Saints fan and you have Spencer, or Rattler. You should have this, well, at least we drafted a rookie we could go to. But how do you get excited for Tyler Shuck from Louisville? He's 38. He's old. So it's not like you have a guy on the bench. You're excited to like, let's see what he's got. I just think they're in a bad spot in their quarterback position right now.
Starting point is 00:41:19 I don't even know how you get that bad off where your options are Rattler and Tyler Shug, but that's what the Saints are. Luckily, they'll have the number one pick next year with a lot of quarterbacks on the board. They will have their choice. of them next year. Grant Nussmeyer from LSU is about to be the same future. All those guys in college are all the guys that everybody thought were going to be good.
Starting point is 00:41:38 I mean, at different points this year, I saw Arch Manning projected number one, Lenora Sellers, Kate Clutnik. All those guys, Nussmeyer's been okay. DJ Lagway through for five interceptions. I mean, this class that was supposed to be unbelievable quarterbacks, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:56 I mean, what does the Saints save all that up and get a, and no one's good? I actually today went to a mock draft that's not even that old. I won't name the publication. But I was trying to see who my Titans can get to block for Cam Ward. We'll get to that later. But Arch Manning was second on this mock draft. And I thought, oh, we got to get this updated after what he's done the last two weeks.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Yeah, but he hasn't even been as bad as some of these other guys have been. I mean, it's a DJ Lagway with five interceptions. Anyway, Mac Jones. It's a choice. Nice to have him back in our lives. As I've said, the worst thing about Mac Jones is, you know, Sometimes people think his name is Matt Jones. And matter of fact, most people do.
Starting point is 00:42:37 And I just get people angry at the way he plays. And I guess they put Matt Jones into Twitter. And I'm the first name that comes up. And they're like, screw you at KY Sports Radio. And I always think, why would you think that that's what Matt Jones's Twitter handle is? KY Sports Radio. You think Mac Jones, the quarterback of the 49ers, would have taken the Twitter hand. handle KY Sports Radio.
Starting point is 00:43:03 That's not our only Mac Jones Twitter connection. I have a great DM from Mac Jones that have to say their favorites. Oh, no. Yours is better than mine. I do remember yours. I don't mind saying mine. He might laugh at out, but he was on a visit
Starting point is 00:43:16 to Kentucky. He was like 17. At this point, I'm probably 31, 32, and he deems me like, where's the party at tonight, man? And I just didn't answer. Like, I'm not part of you're in high school. I'm not partying with you.
Starting point is 00:43:30 but then later it was like what up and I just I just kind of let those sit but then he goes on to become a patriot and I find them long down the road and I'm like you know a young high school Mac Jones wanted you should hang out with a 30 year old me he should respond to him as if he just said it like yesterday no don't even say you're sorry just go where's the party at and you're like let's go to uh Dave and Busters Mac what do you think if it's every time it's now after his big day I should hit him up like hey catch it up on messages where are we at tonight I like that. You definitely should do it. All right. This is your final chance and a big fun fact. What do you got, Billy? Yeah, so the 49ers cut their ticker Jake Moody last week.
Starting point is 00:44:11 They signed 30-year-old Eddie Pinheiro, who had eight total points, made two field goals, but missed an extra point. That missed extra point is rare because Eddie is the fourth most accurate NFL kicker of all time. This is not even a joke. When I saw they signed Eddie Pinero, I thought he was like the winning. jockey in the 1983 Kentucky Derby. I'm not even, that's not
Starting point is 00:44:36 even a joke. I thought that Eddie Panero was a jockey. I really did because there was a jockey. Somebody listening to. Eddie Prado. No, that's one too, but there's one that goes back to the 80s whose name was something like
Starting point is 00:44:52 Panero. And when I thought, I literally thought, do you mean that jockey is now kicking in the NFL? I had no idea there was a 30-year old Eddie Panero. And then he's like one of the most accurate kickers of all time. And he's 30. So if you think he's one of the most accurate of all time, you'd wonder how he didn't have a job.
Starting point is 00:45:10 I also thought it was the jockey when they signed him. Justin Tucker, Harrison Butker, Chris Boswell, and Eddie P as your top four kickers career percentage wise of all time. Well, if there's two you want to emulate, two you want to emulate, it's Tucker and Butker. Those are not at all controversial guys.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Butker's getting roasted today. He missed a field goal, extremely wild right, and the jokes write themselves on that one. The internet's having a good time. That's right. His wife was like, you're the one who should stay home. Let me go make the money. Colts win on a last second field goal against the Broncos. Danny Dimes. That's Daniel Jones to you, sir. Is 2 in the NFL? Can you believe it? I can't believe it. I owe the coach. Colts an apology. On our first cover zero, I made fun of them.
Starting point is 00:46:06 If the Titans have a rival, it's the Colts. I hate them. I said they're going to suck. I said they'll have the number one pick. Then they went on to score on their first 10 possessions of this season. It's an NFL record. No team in history. No quarterback in history has done what Daniel Jones has done with the Colts.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Think about that staff from it. I mean, they scored the first 10 possessions. That's an all-time NFL record by. Daniel Jones. Like, that is insane, isn't it? Absolutely is. It makes you wonder, was he just wasted his time in New York? Is he really that good of a player?
Starting point is 00:46:43 Well, you had Sam Darnold last year who went to a different team and ended up playing well, Baker Mayfield a couple years before. Maybe there are guys who the first time around, it doesn't work. You just have to get him into a new situation and things are better. How about your boy, Justin Fields? I mean, the Jets aren't going to do much, but he's... I don't think he's quite had the success of those others, but yes. But he looks better than he did in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:47:06 I mean, it's the Jets. They're not going to do much. But I do think Justin Fields is taking a little bit of a step, getting a new fresh start too. Yeah, 2 and 0 Colts. Now the leaders in the division. I don't really want to spend a lot of time on this next game. Lions 52 Bears 21.
Starting point is 00:47:23 My goodness. I mean, everybody's going to focus on Caleb Williams, but that bears defense, 52 points. And that was never competitive. That was the game I had primarily on. during my South African journalist talk. And I ended up switching it off because, I mean, the Bears were pitiful.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Ben Johnson, I still believe in him, but I don't know what he did to our defense when they came along or maybe he didn't bring a coordinator. That was a pathetic performance. And horrible timing for him. A week after the lion scored like 13 points in week one, there's all the talk of was it the coordinators? Can Dan Campbell do this?
Starting point is 00:47:56 Was it Ben Johnson's offense? Then they go and score 52 today. They even asked Ben Johnson. was Dan Campbell running up the score on you? And he defended him. He's like, no, that's Dan Campbell. That's what he does. He doesn't have, like, let's dial it back.
Starting point is 00:48:08 He goes forward on fourth. He's full speed aggressive. Like, I don't take it personal. That's what Dan Campbell does. They lit your bears up. So which one's the Lions? Last week's 13 points and looked inept or this one 52. You're going to say in the middle, but let's just say it's one of them.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Which one is it? I can't do in the middle. That's too lame. Anybody on a podcast can take the middle answer. I'm going to say they're more of, of the 52. And I know that's, people probably go the other way
Starting point is 00:48:36 because that was a tough first game. And they're not going to continue to score 52, but I still believe in the Lions as an NFC contender. There's always one game in week one that you go back and you look at and you go, that doesn't make any sense. The Packers are going to be really good. So I'm not sure if that's going to be the game we pick,
Starting point is 00:48:53 but it might be because the Lions might be really good. And then that just was a clunker of a performance. Your Titans lose at home 30. 319 to the Rams. But then before we started the show, you were like, get little giddy schoolboy, Drew, going, Cam Ward's for real. He threw a good pass.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Like, is that how you feel? Yeah, I ordered a Cam Ward shirt after the game, even though we lost by two touchdowns. He lost by two touchdowns. I knew before we drafted Cam Ward that it doesn't matter who they draft them. But Cam Ward has at least given me a reason to watch them. he does look like the legit number one pick, a guy who can be a franchise quarterback.
Starting point is 00:49:34 I feel bad that he has to try to do that in Nashville, but I am very excited about Cam Ward, with all due respect to Caleb Williams, I think if you're looking at number one picks, Cam Ward is like a real deal. That's a number one pick. He had one good throw today. Like, why is it?
Starting point is 00:49:52 No, but he looked good last week too. No, he looked good last. He had Cameron Ridley in the number last week on third down. and it hits the ground. Camry. But no, he has no help. There's no offensive line. His running back is Tony Pollard.
Starting point is 00:50:05 His Calvin Ridley is 30-something years old. I mean, there's no, there's nothing to get excited about with the Titans except Camer. I want you to write this down, Billy. The Titans, what, scored last week? They scored 13, today 19. And Drew already has him, like already has him as being the real deal. Just for the record. I'm not saying he's wrong.
Starting point is 00:50:24 No, no, hold on. We'll never know if he's the real deal because the Titans suck. That's my point. Cam Ward is good, the Titans suck. Okay. I'm going to watch for him, but I don't have a lot of faith because he has no help. There was one receiver I'd never heard of today, like Ehrlich Mayanora of something. Watch out for him.
Starting point is 00:50:38 He's like a track star. At least somebody on the Titans. That's one of the wines they sell here, too, is the Eleg Mayanora. You got one to get the 2015 vintage. It's the best version. I know I fanboid a little bit, but that Cam Ward throw was nasty. That was a great throw. That was one of those.
Starting point is 00:50:53 No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah. Great, great throw. Great throw. It was awesome. Ravens 41, 17 against Cleveland. Flacco, I loved, for me, the highlight the game was watching Flacco Scramble at what time. When he looked, he was so, him trying to run for a first down is highly entertaining. Ravens are, I think, a beast of a team.
Starting point is 00:51:15 I don't think last week changes anything on that. Would you play Dylan Gabriel if you were the Browns? Got a little look today. Probably. Flacco's just, it's over. It was a fun story a few years ago and he gave him a little run after taking that coach flight
Starting point is 00:51:31 to go save the team from retirement. But you don't really want to put your franchise in Joe Flacco's hand. Just let's see what the rookie has. Well, I mean, at this point, why would you? You're not good. So, I mean, again, if you were good, you might give it a shot.
Starting point is 00:51:45 You've got two rookies. I would think you would play them both and then see what you got. If it were me, I would want to play deal with Gabriel a few games, Shador Sanders, a few games, and then see what you have, right? Yeah, and one more thing to watch.
Starting point is 00:52:00 You all laughed at me week one. Guess who led the Browns of receiving again? Harold Fanon Jr. from Bowling Green. I told y'all to watch this and you laughed. This guy's coming out of nowhere. Cover Zero reported it week one. He did it again. Had a touchdown lost it.
Starting point is 00:52:14 Harold Fanon Jr. from Bowling Green. Keep laughing at me. Ask Browns fans. They have a star in the making. All right. All right. Did Lamar score, by the way, today? Did I get my...
Starting point is 00:52:24 Not a rushing touchdown, I don't think. No. No rush. Jonathan Taylor and Jamar Chase did. So we are all tied up in the touchdown. So you two both got yours. You got Taylor and Chase and I didn't with Lamar. I said this last week.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Chase was the lock of the year after two catches last week. They were going to force it to him. And I won on my pick. I had the Ravens as my team. Billy, who did you have? Arnold's who beat Carolina. And what did you have, Drew? Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:52:53 All right, so we all survived. You guys took a couple, I thought, chances, and we all survived. So we're all into week three. What a rarity in Survivor leagues that that would happen. Bill's Jets. Billy, by the way, you need to pick yours since you're going to be gone Wednesday. You need to pick your – Yeah, make sure you send it in.
Starting point is 00:53:12 You have first pick. So you get to pick whoever you want. Bill's Jets, Bill's win 30 to 10. I didn't see one second of this game. So you can tell me if I missed anything. Every time I checked on it, you know, it was a blowout from the beginning. One one I was keeping up with a lot. But every time I looked up, James Cook was doing something.
Starting point is 00:53:31 He had a big game. He had like 130 yards. Two touchdowns. Pretty much a breeze of a game for the bills after what they went through last week. Do you like that? Josh Allen heard his nose? Yeah. How did he do that?
Starting point is 00:53:45 It looked like his head went into one of his teammates' knee. And he ran off the field immediately. He had to get it checked out. And he had something stuck up his nose when he came back. something stuck up his nose. Yeah, yeah. Like some bandaid or something. He had a bandaid stuck up his nose.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Or like, you know, the thing. I don't think that's a white circle. You're telling me the guy had a bandaid on his knee and it went up the guy's more like a cloth kind of. Oh, you're saying the doctor put the thing in his nose. He was making it sound like it fell off the guy's knee and went into his nose. No, it was a tough hit though. Thought he might be hurt. It was Joe Burrow who was significantly hurt.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Josh Allen. Yeah, there was a second with that Josh Allen hit, I think, where it looked like Drew, it could be bad. And that would have been the end of the bill season, but it looks like he's okay. Sticking a Band-Aid up the nose does sound like something the Bengals would do, though, had he played there. I saw Josh Allen said, after the game, I can breathe. We're all right. So moving on. But he was pretty bloodied up there and had to go out for a little bit. That's such a football answer. I can breathe. So we're all right. Yeah, I can breathe. That is, listen, tough guy. Cardinals. beat the Panthers, although they almost blew it.
Starting point is 00:54:55 I predicted, by the way, on this show last week that you will turn the Cardinals Panthers game on for the first time with two minutes to go and the Panthers will be driving trying to beat the Cardinals. And that's exactly what happened. 2722. They have a chance. People need to go back and watch Bryce Young's last play. One of the all time, he ran 45 yards backwards in trying to make that play, then fumbled
Starting point is 00:55:23 it. Cardinals win, but they almost blew it. They were up 27 to three at one point in this game. Would have been a bad loss for the Cardinals in a year where they have a little bit of optimism. Bryce Young threw it almost 60 times. See, I don't know. How do they think that's going to succeed?
Starting point is 00:55:38 I mean, threw it almost 60 times. I think it's 55 fast attempts in the losing effort. I don't know. If you're a Panthers fan, what are we doing? Like, you're saying the Panthers game, I forgot there was a Panthers game. until you brought it up.
Starting point is 00:55:54 It was good to hear Chris Myers finding his flow again. I mean, you just know, Chris Myers must have a Panthers tattoo because he gets it every week. I mean, he needs, I hope he gets hazard pay because he has to watch more of those games. Kyle Murray had another terrible interception. There's no player in the league who's both awesome and at times makes awful decision more than Kyle Murray, but Cardinals two and up. Yeah, he's got better pieces of them around than this year. So if Collar is ever going to have a good year and take a step forward,
Starting point is 00:56:28 he's at least got the help. He just has to go out and do it. So far so good being undefeated. So what are your big takeaways here from week two? I think, you know, go back, if you go back to the Packers' commanders game, if you're to sort of do your top five power rankings, I think we'd probably both still have the bills number one. Are you putting the Eagles?
Starting point is 00:56:50 Wow. I would have had the Eagles number one. I'm going to probably put the bills now. I think I feel better about them. I'd probably go Eagles, two, Packers, three, Ravens Four. But to me, those four are way ahead of everybody else. What about you? Oh, no, mine's a little different.
Starting point is 00:57:07 I got Ravens, too, even with the loss. Ravens two. It was a fluke loss in Buffalo with the Henry Fumble. I'm still, I still have faith in Baltimore, even though they do have a loss on their resume. really, though, Eagles, Ravens, Bills, just draw one of a hat for me. I mean, I think they're all. Packers are like definitively four for you? I should have included the Packers.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Going to the year, those are my three, and they've proven to be right with Mike and how good they've looked. They've elevated too. But the Bills and the Ravens, that week one, just confirmed it. I mean, that is going to be a war for who comes out of that conference. And I think we're going to get another rematch like we saw in the first game for who gets go the Super Bowl. Last week, you and I both had the Chiefs five. I don't think you can put them there after losing
Starting point is 00:57:55 again. So where are you going on number five? You've got, let's see, you got two and oh teams right now include the Bengals are two and oh. The 49ers are two and oh. The Colts are two and oh. Rams are two and oh. What would you have, Cardinals? Which of those, any of those you put
Starting point is 00:58:14 fifth? Of what you just, I wouldn't put them fifth. of what you just said, I'd put the Rams of the two and O teams. But I like a one-in-one Detroit better than any of those. But one-in-one Detroit is better than any of those. I think, you know, it was against the Bears, and it's easy to mock that. But that was such a dominating performance today on both sides of the ball. I think the lines at five. And honestly, the lines probably should be in the top four groups.
Starting point is 00:58:39 They just kind of laid a clunker. So for the rest of the week, the rest of the next two and a half weeks, I will be in South Africa. I will still be here in Stellenbach on Wednesday. Billy, I will look for the wine of your choice. Yes. And let me correct for the listeners at home. It's S-T-E-L-L-E-N-B-O-E-S-C-H. That's Stellan Bach.
Starting point is 00:59:08 But we don't say Bosch, we say Bach. By we, I mean, South Africans of which I am. You and the yogurt, people. amongst them. Yeah, I am, I am part of South Day. They had a big, they had a big rugby game. They beat the All Blacks from New Zealand. They beat them by the largest margin that they've beaten them in the history of the, of
Starting point is 00:59:32 humanity, right? Like, these are the two big rugby, I have no idea what I'm talking about. But they're the two big rugby powers. And they played Saturday. And it was the biggest win ever in South Africa. And people were talking about it. I mean, not to me, but just like I could hear them talking about it everywhere, and it was very exciting. I heard now they're just talking about this strawberry character walking around across the streets.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Like there's just not a care in the world. What's the next move from Ed Jones? Also have a recommendation. If you're ever in South Africa and you're in the airport and you need to eat, eat at the wimpi. Okay, W-I-M-P-Y. It's called the W-W-L-E-W-E-Rexamwich. Now, here's why I need you to know. Every, let's see, what is it?
Starting point is 01:00:21 Every 19 Rans, that's what it's called RAND, is $1. So you'll see it and you'll go, man, this Brecky sandwich is 83 Rans. That seems expensive. But then, Drew, it's only like $3.50 and you get a big old brecky plate. So I highly recommend the wimpy in the airports in South Africa. Is Brecki like breakfast? Is it like baby talk for breakfast? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:49 So breakfast sandwiches in South Africa, they call Breckys, which I think is very fun. Very cute. Very cute. What's next on your big South African journey? Well, what's your next day? So we are going to the prison where Nelson Mandela was held for all of those years. I'm going to Table Mountain. They have a mountain that is over the city of, uh,
Starting point is 01:01:15 Cape Town that looks like a table. Like it's up in the air, but then it's completely flat at the top. And, you know, then we're just going to do things like have some more Breckies and be ready to rock. More deathifying trips to get strawberry yogurt. Well, this is, we're still in Bakken fairly, fairly safe. And Cape Town is, it's a Johannesburg, at least just yogurt places in Johannesburg. Last thing before we go, since we won't have KSR to talk about this on. did you see the video of Zach Bryan climbing the the barbed wire fence to try to beat up Gavin Adcock?
Starting point is 01:01:52 I'm not a Zach Bryan guy, but I'm on his side. That video, I don't even know what they're fighting about, but that video is hilarious. And I will tell you, you do not fight a man who's climbing over a barbed wire fence. No, not at all. A man climbing over a barbed wire fence with eight huge individuals just waiting on the other side. I don't know much about Gavin Adcock. I admit, I listen to Zach Bryan as a person. Don't really want to, don't know that I'm a fan of him as a human being,
Starting point is 01:02:21 but I wanted him to get over that fence so bad just to see what the next step was. And I don't know who Gavin Adcock is, but he's wearing that stupid vest. He looks like, I mean, he looks like a cowboy at Epcot. And when he's, when Zach Brian, you can see, he's walking towards the fence. And then when Zach Bryan starts climbing the fence, he keeps walking like, yeah, you want some because he's like, this crazy dude's not going to jump over this barbed wire fence. And then he, Zach Bryant puts his hand on the barbed wire. And at that moment, you can see Gavin Adcock be like, all right, maybe I need to back up.
Starting point is 01:02:55 And he did the thing where he was like, hey, security, get in between us. Get in between us. It was great. Gavin's biggest guy grabs him and tells him to go away when Zach gets like one leg over. Also, what are they fighting about, by the way? What are they upset about? this Gavin Adcock character is just throwing insults everywhere you know our guy Charlie Crockett
Starting point is 01:03:18 he's in a fight with him I guess he's kind of bro country and he's kind of take Charlie Crockett is country country well Zach Brine's kind of bro country too isn't he yeah that's why it's all so stupid I think Gavin Adcock's doing it to get his name out there a little more because he's a different tier he almost says the kids would say, Breckyed around and found out because he, I would just say this.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Zach Bryan, new level of scared of for me. He put his hands on that barbed wire like a crazy man. I'm staying away. Well, Billy, thank you all. It is 2 o'clock in the morning here in Stellenbock, so I'm going to go to bed. And you guys waking up Monday. Hope you've enjoyed the show. And we will see you Wednesday.
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